Nelson, you are the best teacher. You really take time to explain the logic behind your moves. I learned more from you in a week than any other chess youtuber. Thank you!
Loving these videos Nelson. I'm one of those people who said they were looking forward to the 1300 games, but I'm enjoying watching the whole journey. Thank you and God bless.
It is weird like I think they played at about 1400ish which is way too weak to be cheating or a different GM speed-running but way too good to be in the 400s
Nelson seriously thank you so much for these series. So helpful to hear the way you think/approach the situations especially on these lower levels. Really really appreciate it. Thank you!
Im pretty much convinced that how Cc goes bout rating new accounts is a major issue. The simple solution to me is having a period of time where you’re unrated, and then after so many games you get an official rating, Rather than choosing to start at 400 or 800, that causes way too much diversity of skill levels from 100-1000.
I think this is fine because it wont take much time to climb for the better players and if you would unrate them they would still play he people between 100-1000
@@wytzekuiper1777 you’re completely missing the point, and just considering how it effects better players. It should still let you select skill level when making account, and that would choose who youd match up with for first match. After that match the engine ranks you, and you then match with someone with similar rank. Then after say five matches the engine could rate your elo. Then you dont have beginners having a demoralizing fall from 400 or worse 800 if they chose intermediate which a lot do for whatever reason. The point is to try and get better consistency for low elo players, and not have them fall from a random elo rating they chose. As well as other things, but i hope you get my point.
@@fintan9218 As I recall (it was some time ago, so I'm not confident), what you suggest is exactly what's implemented: you specify your level, and then you spend 3 or so games until your rating is finally calculated. Not sure what happens with the points of the people you play with.
i wish you would talk to the guys after a good game. tell them who you are and your rating.. it would be really cool for them to know they took a 2200 to endgame and for us to see a wholesome interaction and confidence boost
Wow, watched a couple of your videos, already playing a lot better game, thinking clearly about the centre board, getting my team out where they are what they cover and etc, had 5 great wins. Thank you xx
This guys plays well for a 400. With practice he can reach 1000, maybe even 1200 but he will have to be consistent. I'm an 800 and I can clearly see the areas he needs to improve on
They're my two favorite chess streamers. What if they weren't aware of their opponent's real identity? Would they report each other for 'cooking rice'? That would be so funny.
I'm not so surprised about a 400 playing with 80% accuracy in that type of game. In my experience the biggest weaknesses of that rating level are not knowing much about tactics and not seeing checkmates by either side. When both players play a quiet and solid game, the 400 player can do pretty well. Throw a tricky gambit at them and the accuracy drops to the 30s or below.
In game 4 actually the opponent didnt play the stonewall correctly. playing the 4 pawn moves continuously is the wrong transposition of the stonewall and as a stonewall player myself I like to play Nbd2 and BD3 to prevent NE5 before playing C3 and F4 as those moves can be played whenever it needs
the trick he is taking about at 25 min,18 sec i think, is that after: 1) c3, King: c7 for the sake of it lol, 2) Rock:b4, Bishop:e6 u can play: 3) f5, Bishop: f7 4) f6 and u cant take, then i take the bishop! Have a great day all
At 51:05, can't the mate be stopped by Qg4? It seems you would be forced to trade Queens otherwise you'd lose your bishop and have no attack. I'm a noob so I could be missing something.
I’m 400 haha but I play a few friends over and over who are better than me so my ELO stays pretty low, but I seem to play well against randoms. I should probably turn off rated against my regulars and see how I can climb up a bit.
If Nelson would have taken the a1 rook first, he would not have been able to take the h1 rook. All white has to do after NxRa, play f3 blocking the queen from capturing the rook on h1. It saves his knight as you stated but misses the opportunity to capture the other rook on h1.
55:21 this is a blunder according to the game review, and the opponent was free to take your knight, but instead they chose to play Bxf5, winning a bishop but losing a rook (which is also a blunder). The computer recommends undoing your bishop move (or you lose the bishop), but I guess you weren't looking to do that anyway.
Watching you beat these low level players when you're obviously so much better is like watching a regular athlete compete in the Special Olympics. I want to see you play others of equal skill.
@@user-eg6iw8of3k So? if the rooks are traded open files are meaningless. And if they aren't traded then black literally has to move his rook away or else they'll lose it, which then loses the knight. So black either loses a bishop for nothing, or loses a bishop and a knight and an open file for nothing
What 454 player makes a dozen top moves in 56 seconds against 2000+ player playing trick defense on every move causing the 2000+ player to rely on pawn structure to maintain his advantage? 56 seconds? Come on...Nelson, you're not a little suspicious you found one of the zillions of "454 phenoms" out there? I see this all the time (low 500 rating and am not strong enough yet to play like you do and win)
Nah, i wish he showed what the computer rated. Was probably like 700/800 elo rating. Im 240 in rapid and have a lot of games with high accuracy where the computer rates me high(and my opponent sometimes too). One i want to send to guess the elo, i lost but it was 75%/86% accuracy with no blunders and it was long game. We were both 200 elo. The person who won is now 500elo. Lots of people start accounts as beginners learning, lose a lot of elo while learning basics but still playing ranked games. Then they get kind of good but are stuck. Like im rated 900+ elo in puzzles, and 1000+ in rapid on lichess. It’s weird, i wish i could just jump back up to 400 at least quickly, but you gain so little points and if you win consistently you get opponents like that 400 who play really well.
@@fintan9218 The computer gave 850 for white, 1100 for black. The problem is that the computer always takes the original ratings into account, and in this case that underestimates the strength of play in this game.
@shulmpino5505 I highly doubt they were a cheater. Nelson would have never won against a cheater using bots. And most players at that level will use a computer program for every move. Smurf is highly likely but question is Nelson a Smurf here too? Actually technically yes. But he had a reason for it. You never know that other guy might have had a reason to and was just as surprised as Nelson to find a strong player - and may have had bad suspicions of Peter Patzer himself - after all how does a 410 (Peter Patzer) play this well? Kinda cool to see a higher level game at 400s Could also just be all out Smurf that does happen too. Also as Nelson said that account hadn’t played a lot of games. This next part is against the rules too but also multiple people could be sharing an account - some weak some strong.
At 22:08 of the video black might have played Nf4 and if fxg4 Ne2+, Kh1 Rxf1+ and mate. Obviously white isn't forced to play fxg4, but that would have been a good try by black..
I'm a little late to this one (probably more than "a little" late, since it's been over 2 weeks) even though I've seen installments of Peter Patzer playing against higher rated opponents. Finding about an hour of free time for a single video isn't easy, which is why I was able to dive in more easily when the videos were shortened to about half an hour, but I will get to all of the installments sooner or later.
Far be it from me to tell you this, but on the last game of this video im pretty sure you missed mate in one... you had the king boxed in, and instead of knight to F2 checkmate... you took his knight. Which is of coarse fine, maybe it was a teachable moment... but im trying to learn also and i was curious if i was correct here or did i miss something?? Time stamp is roughly 58.32 in the video or your (or peter patzers) game timer was at 6:02 in the game. Please let me know, Anyone? You delivered mate right after that, but i was just curious.
Has anybody noticed that low-rated players are better than the same rating a few years ago? I suspect it's from the explosion of learning content available, like a tide lifting all boats.
I didn't play a few years ago, but I can easily believe you. Many players under 1000 can refute the stafford gambit for example. Also there's a huge difference in skill between blitz and rapid players, the blitz players being way better. Even though I'm 1200 in rapid and 800 in blitz, I'd say I'm much better at blitz actually. The rapid players are just so much worse, that it's way easier to gain rating
"my opponent is playing very, very strong ... very very strong for a 400 ... I'm getting a little bit suspicious, just a little bit" ... I wonder if your opponent is thinking the same thing :)
at min 52:32. "no way for black to defend"... well - ..., Ng3; Rf2 (forced), Qd4; Qd2 (is loosing, exchange qeens, down a rook...) so eternal check is for white is forced on files g and h. so, there it is, a draw. have i miss-looked something? (spend only 10 seconds on this, there might be blind spots)
U would still have a very good Position but the Mate would be prevented for a bit But U still have a huge Winning Position so after a few Moves U will sooner or later Mate Ur opponent
Nelson, you are the best teacher. You really take time to explain the logic behind your moves. I learned more from you in a week than any other chess youtuber. Thank you!
Agreed!
Yes, Nelson is the best! I've been watching some GMs and although they are good, they don't have the patience to clarify as Nelson does.
This is such a great series. Glad to see play lower rated players like myself with time to explain everything. Thanks
Loving these videos Nelson. I'm one of those people who said they were looking forward to the 1300 games, but I'm enjoying watching the whole journey. Thank you and God bless.
This guy is really good as a 400 player. He has a lot of potentials to be GM.
Idk gm is hard
He is NM by the way.
he's cheating
@@takemebacktothenif he would have been cheating, then Nelson would have lost
It is weird like I think they played at about 1400ish which is way too weak to be cheating or a different GM speed-running but way too good to be in the 400s
Nelson seriously thank you so much for these series. So helpful to hear the way you think/approach the situations especially on these lower levels. Really really appreciate it. Thank you!
Im pretty much convinced that how Cc goes bout rating new accounts is a major issue. The simple solution to me is having a period of time where you’re unrated, and then after so many games you get an official rating, Rather than choosing to start at 400 or 800, that causes way too much diversity of skill levels from 100-1000.
I think this is fine because it wont take much time to climb for the better players and if you would unrate them they would still play he people between 100-1000
I agree. I think there are many skill levels below 1000 and as well there are some ego-cheaters down there.
@@wytzekuiper1777 you’re completely missing the point, and just considering how it effects better players. It should still let you select skill level when making account, and that would choose who youd match up with for first match. After that match the engine ranks you, and you then match with someone with similar rank. Then after say five matches the engine could rate your elo. Then you dont have beginners having a demoralizing fall from 400 or worse 800 if they chose intermediate which a lot do for whatever reason. The point is to try and get better consistency for low elo players, and not have them fall from a random elo rating they chose. As well as other things, but i hope you get my point.
@@fintan9218 As I recall (it was some time ago, so I'm not confident), what you suggest is exactly what's implemented: you specify your level, and then you spend 3 or so games until your rating is finally calculated. Not sure what happens with the points of the people you play with.
lichess puts a question mark next to the rating
You are the best teacher I know off, explaining your thought process for every move has helped me so much❤
Last checkmate wad brutal. Great content and very educational as always
Seeing this with his explanations make it all look sooooo easy an logical.... as long as i try it myself....
lol, because he always notices his opponent's plans so he isn't caught off guard
58:45 there is an immediate checkmate with qd1. Edit; 2 move checkmate, bishop can block
Yep
Bd2 covers it but kf2 is mate after that so it is mate in 2 not immediate checkmate
@@epichunter3488 Oh yeah so obvious I didn't see the bishop could block lol.
31:50 20 years of Chess and I've never seen both rooks trapped at the same time 💀
The second rook isn't trapped.
That game was a bloodbath, I felt sorry for the girl the whole time
@@Bruh-bk6yohow is it not trapped
@@colecube8251f3 saves a1 rook
i wish you would talk to the guys after a good game. tell them who you are and your rating.. it would be really cool for them to know they took a 2200 to endgame and for us to see a wholesome interaction and confidence boost
Wow, watched a couple of your videos, already playing a lot better game, thinking clearly about the centre board, getting my team out where they are what they cover and etc, had 5 great wins. Thank you xx
Watching many of your recent Rating Climb vids from the past month. Thanks. Thumbs up.
very helpful series, thanks 🙏❤
The h-pawn: *Am I a joke to you?*
Fischerman's puzzle please!😊
This guys plays well for a 400. With practice he can reach 1000, maybe even 1200 but he will have to be consistent. I'm an 800 and I can clearly see the areas he needs to improve on
I thought for a while it was Rosen against Chess Vibes in their climbs. That would be great.
They're my two favorite chess streamers. What if they weren't aware of their opponent's real identity? Would they report each other for 'cooking rice'? That would be so funny.
@@TVGUY333 Rosen's voice is so relaxing.
theres so much to learn and you make it easy to understand. thanks a lot.
Thats the type of opponent i get in every single match.BTw thanks for making this series.Climbed from 690 to 1173
Love your videos mate. You don't look thrilled to be playing 400s but I really appreciate your commentary.
I'm not so surprised about a 400 playing with 80% accuracy in that type of game. In my experience the biggest weaknesses of that rating level are not knowing much about tactics and not seeing checkmates by either side. When both players play a quiet and solid game, the 400 player can do pretty well. Throw a tricky gambit at them and the accuracy drops to the 30s or below.
3:10 : nice bishop develoPIN
This 400 is probably a 1800 in disguise by looking at his puzzle rating.
sometimes you experiment with new openings and lose points
that means nothing.
Meanwhile nelson coming across magnus doing speedrun as well...
51:13 Qg4 defends mate
Thank you very much for your very-good explanation.
Awesome video mate, love it
in the last game after you took the knight you could do queen d1 first and then f2 knight mate
Yeah also saw that mate in 2 guaranteed.
This dude should not be underestimated.
Everyone shouldn't be underestimated
neither should they be overestimated! That is why I abide with a strict "estimating" policy for everyone. I just estimate them accurately.
Who SHOULD be underestimated? And by how much? And how would we even know?
And magnets. How the frig do those things work??!?
damn that last girl got destroyed - like she probably quit chess forever after that game
That second to last game, at the end, I think he could've moved his queen G4 to stay alive?
58:52 Qd1+ Bd2, Nf2#... that would be faster anyway
I really learned a lot here. Thanks.
Hey Nelson I hope you didnt forgot about the fisherman adveture, did You?
Maybe the one who forgot are us, not him...coz waited too long till forgot the story 😂
@@taneweliat1608 👍😆
Funny if Game #4 was making a rating run too video and is somewhere on TH-cam calling your account t suspicious
Thank you Nelson you bring confidence to my game ✌🤟🚀
In game 4 actually the opponent didnt play the stonewall correctly. playing the 4 pawn moves continuously is the wrong transposition of the stonewall and as a stonewall player myself I like to play Nbd2 and BD3 to prevent NE5 before playing C3 and F4 as those moves can be played whenever it needs
Bro's got that hans niemann rizz
The second game was brutal 😂
I was winning around 50% of the time before watching this series now I’m losing constantly. What does it mean?
It doesn't mean anything. Just keep learning, doing puzzles ans playing :)
This is a master course in defeating lower-rated players! 😮
Oh no, the smurf is upset when he gets smurfed.
Nelson, plz change the board theme into violet colour and the piece style also, it would be looking great 😍😁
can you play the ponziani
You are a very gifted teacher ❤❤❤
the trick he is taking about at 25 min,18 sec i think, is that after: 1) c3, King: c7 for the sake of it lol, 2) Rock:b4, Bishop:e6 u can play: 3) f5, Bishop: f7 4) f6 and u cant take, then i take the bishop! Have a great day all
That second game hurt to watch Jesus
16:04 Isnt there Qa5 fork for bkack
yes, Qxd4 is a blunder
At 51:05, can't the mate be stopped by Qg4? It seems you would be forced to trade Queens otherwise you'd lose your bishop and have no attack. I'm a noob so I could be missing something.
40:53 isnt Qc5 queen a stronger move here?
Thanks for the videos!
Anyone else think it's hilarious that an FM is accusing a 400 elo of smurfing while smurfing himself as a 400 elo lol
true but I believe he's using a speedrun account which means that players get refunded elo after the match
I’m 400 haha but I play a few friends over and over who are better than me so my ELO stays pretty low, but I seem to play well against randoms. I should probably turn off rated against my regulars and see how I can climb up a bit.
Bro whats the app name?
@@Sarfraz-Vlogs Bumble
16:02 You missed Qa5 check tho which wins the knight for black...
31:55 I believe taking the a1 rook is better since the h1 rook is already trapped, so taking the h1 rook loses the Knight if they play Bb2
If Nelson would have taken the a1 rook first, he would not have been able to take the h1 rook. All white has to do after NxRa, play f3 blocking the queen from capturing the rook on h1. It saves his knight as you stated but misses the opportunity to capture the other rook on h1.
Such a good video to learn from
One ratings climber meets another ratings climber...
58:57 isn't queen D1 check, bishop blocks, knight F2 mate in 2?
Lol When two smurfs play each other and suspect a thing
Thank you master Kenobi I mean Nelson :D
Im that nazim3561 pleasure to play with you mate ☺️
Ayn kankaa
@@egeern kıskanma pic
11:00 this opponent has no idea...
55:21 this is a blunder according to the game review, and the opponent was free to take your knight, but instead they chose to play Bxf5, winning a bishop but losing a rook (which is also a blunder). The computer recommends undoing your bishop move (or you lose the bishop), but I guess you weren't looking to do that anyway.
Watching you beat these low level players when you're obviously so much better is like watching a regular athlete compete in the Special Olympics. I want to see you play others of equal skill.
as a low level player it teaches me a lot
29:48 better move is nf6 with the idea c6 d5
22:16 I saw a tactic where black doesnt move the bishop and then you take and then they take your rook
if you don't move the bishop white takes it with the pawn
Yeah but you will have an open file
@@user-eg6iw8of3k So? if the rooks are traded open files are meaningless. And if they aren't traded then black literally has to move his rook away or else they'll lose it, which then loses the knight. So black either loses a bishop for nothing, or loses a bishop and a knight and an open file for nothing
Greece is a gift 🎁 which keeps on giving 😊.
What 454 player makes a dozen top moves in 56 seconds against 2000+ player playing trick defense on every move causing the 2000+ player to rely on pawn structure to maintain his advantage? 56 seconds? Come on...Nelson, you're not a little suspicious you found one of the zillions of "454 phenoms" out there? I see this all the time (low 500 rating and am not strong enough yet to play like you do and win)
Me who Casually Have a brilliant as a 350 and also Getting a 90 accuracy On the same game as the brilliant:
Fear the wrath of peter patzer
That very strong 400 player was more like a 1600 in this game. Not really in their other games though....
Nah, i wish he showed what the computer rated. Was probably like 700/800 elo rating. Im 240 in rapid and have a lot of games with high accuracy where the computer rates me high(and my opponent sometimes too). One i want to send to guess the elo, i lost but it was 75%/86% accuracy with no blunders and it was long game. We were both 200 elo. The person who won is now 500elo.
Lots of people start accounts as beginners learning, lose a lot of elo while learning basics but still playing ranked games. Then they get kind of good but are stuck. Like im rated 900+ elo in puzzles, and 1000+ in rapid on lichess. It’s weird, i wish i could just jump back up to 400 at least quickly, but you gain so little points and if you win consistently you get opponents like that 400 who play really well.
@@fintan9218 The computer gave 850 for white, 1100 for black. The problem is that the computer always takes the original ratings into account, and in this case that underestimates the strength of play in this game.
@@fintan9218I highly doubt it. As a 1450 rapid player I suspect I probably could have lost to that 400 so it’s either a Smurf or cheater
@shulmpino5505 I highly doubt they were a cheater. Nelson would have never won against a cheater using bots. And most players at that level will use a computer program for every move.
Smurf is highly likely but question is Nelson a Smurf here too? Actually technically yes. But he had a reason for it. You never know that other guy might have had a reason to and was just as surprised as Nelson to find a strong player - and may have had bad suspicions of Peter Patzer himself - after all how does a 410 (Peter Patzer) play this well?
Kinda cool to see a higher level game at 400s
Could also just be all out Smurf that does happen too. Also as Nelson said that account hadn’t played a lot of games.
This next part is against the rules too but also multiple people could be sharing an account - some weak some strong.
@@astros7242 I mean, you’re only allowed to smurf with special permission from staff. And weaker bots do exist
The second game loser looked exactly like how I lose. Crazy lol.
At 22:08 of the video black might have played Nf4 and if fxg4 Ne2+, Kh1 Rxf1+ and mate. Obviously white isn't forced to play fxg4, but that would have been a good try by black..
14:45 , how did you win?
I'm a little late to this one (probably more than "a little" late, since it's been over 2 weeks) even though I've seen installments of Peter Patzer playing against higher rated opponents. Finding about an hour of free time for a single video isn't easy, which is why I was able to dive in more easily when the videos were shortened to about half an hour, but I will get to all of the installments sooner or later.
Far be it from me to tell you this, but on the last game of this video im pretty sure you missed mate in one... you had the king boxed in, and instead of knight to F2 checkmate... you took his knight. Which is of coarse fine, maybe it was a teachable moment... but im trying to learn also and i was curious if i was correct here or did i miss something?? Time stamp is roughly 58.32 in the video or your (or peter patzers) game timer was at 6:02 in the game. Please let me know, Anyone? You delivered mate right after that, but i was just curious.
Holy shit game 2 was a masterclass in strategy
Love your analyis
when he played Nf2+ he was able playing Qd1#
Has anybody noticed that low-rated players are better than the same rating a few years ago? I suspect it's from the explosion of learning content available, like a tide lifting all boats.
Definitely, if you watch some other people's speedruns from 2-3 years ago players were much weaker
Now 300play like 1000
I didn't play a few years ago, but I can easily believe you. Many players under 1000 can refute the stafford gambit for example. Also there's a huge difference in skill between blitz and rapid players, the blitz players being way better. Even though I'm 1200 in rapid and 800 in blitz, I'd say I'm much better at blitz actually. The rapid players are just so much worse, that it's way easier to gain rating
I think this 400 is sandbagger and his real rating should be around 1800
pot calling the kettle black
It’s hikaru playing on his burner account
I think Peter patzer is underrated.
At 56:30 wasn’t there a royal fork??
Your teachings are better than " Logical Chess" !
Nazim3561 lost 8 games then won 10 in a row. Hmmmmmm…
At 59:00 was Nf2 necessary? Wouldn't Qd1 be mate right then?
His bishop would block it.
I understand the concept. I understand they will get their ELO back, still poor them being slaughtered by so much stronger player
"my opponent is playing very, very strong ... very very strong for a 400 ... I'm getting a little bit suspicious, just a little bit"
... I wonder if your opponent is thinking the same thing :)
Curious, how many 1700 players messing around with 350 - 400 players?
thanks dod
at min 52:32.
"no way for black to defend"...
well - ..., Ng3; Rf2 (forced), Qd4; Qd2 (is loosing, exchange qeens, down a rook...) so eternal check is for white is forced on files g and h. so, there it is, a draw.
have i miss-looked something? (spend only 10 seconds on this, there might be blind spots)
Ive actually played against lawndartz what a coincidence
A little ironic that you're suspicious about the actual rating of your opponent.
At 51:07, what if your opponent played Qg4 to defend against Qxg7#?
U would still have a very good Position but the Mate would be prevented for a bit
But U still have a huge Winning Position so after a few Moves U will sooner or later Mate Ur opponent
58:57 isn't queen to d1 checkmate in 1?
Yep, after he blocks with the bishop Nf2 is mate.
Can you do a London opening? 🙏