I've never been into mountaineering but you do a really good job making them accessible to a broader audience despite the complicated details involved.
I have to leave this comment. Willi was an incredible pioneer for mountaineering, but he was a terrible human. He repeatedly put people’s lives in danger for the sake of conquering the mountain. He’s the reason his daughter passed away on the mountain with her namesake. He continued to push her even though she said she wasn’t able to continue. He put those students in the position to be caught in the storm. A person who truly cared for other’s safety would make the smart decision immediately, being the expert out of everyone. Instead he delayed because he figured there was a chance they could still summit. I’m not sorry that he’s gone, I’m sorry that he directly caused other’s to lose their life, including his daughter.
Some people are just thoroughly self absorbed or simply lack empathy. I push myself beyond what I think my limits are when I get the opportunity, within reason, but I would never put someone else in jeopardy just because I want to do something. If you’re out in the wilderness you should always carry a responsibility for the safety of your companions.
We climbed the route a few weeks later, and found a pack, with a stuff sack in it labeled "Unsoeld." We're not sure whose pack it was. We brought it back down and left it with park rangers, and were told that it would be put into a small museum honoring Willie.
If you can't carry your own equipment, you should NOT go on any expedition. No matter how much "experience" you have.... A liability is a death sentence when doing any extreme sports.
Rainier is, indeed, not a terribly difficult mountain, but it is dangerous, especially in late winter and early spring. I remember when this happened, and the timing of it always seemed bad to me - late February/early March is a terrible time to climb this mountain, because the weather is so fickle.
Back in 1990 i was working at REI in Anchorage Alaska and i was climbing and Backcountry skiing in Alaska. I guy working there who was a very experienced climber who i knew went to Mt. Ranier to make a winter ascent. They made it to the summit but he broke up from the group to ski a extreme line. He fell and died his body was recovered. He was cool to me and a bunch of fools at REI doubted that i could climb Denali at age 19. Later that summer i summited Denali in July. I will never forget that guy he was kind and positive.
I'm not a mountaineer but I am an experienced hiker and I've climbed a few mountains, if there is one hardcore mountain I really want to climb, its Denali. The reason being its the highest elevation gain (on land) of any mountain anywhere on earth. I'm almost 40 now so odds are I probably won't but you never know.
@@billt6116 That's why they specified highest elevation gain - Everest rises out of a plateau that's already at major elevation, so despite the summit of Everest being higher in the sense of total height, further from sea level, Denali is taller in the sense of the summit being further from the base of the mountain.
It is named after John Muir. Not sure if the Morbid Midnight dude is American or not, but either way it's kinda weird he isn't familiar with how that name is pronounced, considering his content area. Still love these, but him mispronouncing that was driving me crazy lol
Yea it’s pronounced me - ur. There’s a Muir Woods outside of San Fran and a bunch of hospitals in the area called John Muir. It was killing me too hearing midnight mispronounce it. But great video!
I live in Townsend,Tennessee and frequently hike in the backcountry of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park on and around the Appalachian Trail. I ALWAYS carry a portable HAM radio that includes a weather radio. As winter is my favorite time to experience the Appalachian backcountry I always do a frequent check on weather conditions for the coming hours and days. If you don't respect Mother Nature when you're alone in the backcountry,she WILL humble you.
@@coinraker6497 Usually caused by the storm. No rescue possible due to weather. Or people slip and fall because they'll die if they don't get off the mountain soon. Or they fall into a crevasse because the storm makes it impossible to mountaineer properly.
Ur aren't a climber I take it.... I've climbed my whole life and anyhing can happen at a y moment it can go from great to a tragedy. u are truly on ur own most of the time besides ur partner or team and u never know what can happen it's a very dangerous sport and it's very fun and amazing set u apart from all the people who want 2 climb, are 2 scared or can't climb it's a part of my life I cherish and unfortunately i got injured and needed surgery , these videos keep me motivated and keep my climbing itch at bay they always hit close 2 home for me and there all different in there own aspect yes some are storms some are avalanche but there all differ in there differences and it makes then so epic and thrilling!!
Can't say I love to hear about disaster stories if that is something one looks forward to for entertainment. Lessons learned at the expence of another's misfortune or mistakes seems more appropriate. Unless you've been mountain climbing and climbed Rainier/Tahoma, then one knows any time above the treeline can turn deadly. The MUIR Snowfield has taken many a life within site of Paradise. Never underestimate the mountain conditions and weather, which like many high peaks like Tahoma, may change in a heartbeat. My dad was longtime friend and mountain climbing buddy of Willi and was shocked to hear of his passing.
I'm a 45 year old native Washingtonian. My family have been here since 1765. Thank you SO MUCH for giving notice to the real name of Tahoma and for pronouncing it correctly. This reminds me why I love everything about you! I've also been warning for years, about Glacier Peak, which Professor Nick Zentner at Central Washington University just discovered this summer.
Rainier is NOT safe in the winter-the weather is super unpredictable, rarely good, and usually miserable. My dentist died below Camp Muir (~9000' elevation) in October from an unexpected snowstorm. I've been to the top twice, but during August, and it was T-shirt weather both times. My first summer attempt (1981) was cancelled due to fog and snow/rain. I neglected to tell my family about cancelling. That weekend news broke about 11 climbers being swept away by a massive ice fall on the Ingraham Glacier. You can imagine the panic I caused. But nothing compared to the family & friends of the 11 dead climbers.
For an experienced climber, he made a lot of mistakes. Rainier is not a safe mountain, at all. The only reason it's climbed so much is because of it's ease of accessibility to a nearby metropolitan area. I've made three attempts and summited twice. The way he lead the expedition is unheard of these days and as the story unfolded I was not surprised that people were killed. SO many red flags. Thank God more didn't die.
@@ADAMJWAITE I would need to say data to believe that claim. For example, you can get lake effect snow in places like Buffalo, which is a local system "creating its own weather", but that doesn't mean they can't predict when it happens.
I was going to post something similar. As the leader and only experienced climber, Unsoeld shouldn't have let the team debate on what to do, he should have ordered they descend like he originally wanted. Unfortunately he and that girl paid the price.
Perhaps the ‘sunk cost’ fallacy was at play. They’d already been attempting to summit for 7 days. Those who fought to continue thought summiting would make their extended efforts worthwhile. Rest In Peace, Willie & Janey 🕯
@@GaiaCarney You can NEVER have that mentality when climbing. I've attempted thrice and summited Rainier twice. It's up to the mountain to let you summit. On our third attempt we wisely made the decision to turn back due to bad weather and illness. We could have went ahead and possibly made it but in retrospect, I don't regret that decision in the slightest. Most of the groups hiring RMC guides don't make the summit because the guides are experienced enough to know to turn around.
@@GarlicMonoxide If, by "protesting", you mean taking the college president hostage and running around like they were in a Lord of the Flies movie, then yes.
Willi Unsoeld has a fascinating mountaineering history. If I understand correctly, his personal philosophy maintained that participation in adventure was crucial to effective participation in society. Further, the adventure needed to have the potential to be fatal to have the positive effect on citizenship. It might be more subtle than this but this is how I've always understood his philosophy.
Sounds pretty fascist to be honest. They are always into extreme physical fitness, always braying about "muh citizenship " and the like. You can be a person and your documentation status doesn't matter
@@Heike-- No, he was just a spiritual nutcase. He treated even the death of his daughter as a spiritual experience and he believed that people only grow spiritually through experiencing danger and everyone has not only the right, but a kind of duty to put themselves through that - which is why he let the students decide whether they wanted to return or not and why he didn't even tell his daughter, who was clearly unwell on Nanda Devi, to turn back but let her die. In some ways he was really anti-fascist, because he didn't believe in a leader, but in personal experience on an individual level. "Citizenship" is not meant in the sense of documented citizen, but simply "person contributing to their community".
@@Heike--I agree documentation status has no bearing on personhood. Pretty sure Unsoeld wasn't fascist. I didn't explain his philosophy very well. Better explained here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi_Unsoeld
Thank you so much for all of your hard work your stories are better than television ❤ you actually need your own television show 😀 i don't want to watch anything else, im a swat team commander and me and my whole team watch your shows ❤
Armchair mountaineer here. I am an avid hiker who has dappled in mountain climbing. The first thing you learn is your own limitations and fears. I live 60 miles from Rainier, have a library of trail and mountain books. Thought I knew this story but many new details here. Great job. 🍺
I remember this like it was yesterday. I first climbed Mt. Raineer in 1974 when I was 12 years old with my brother Bob Gabbard, Dick/Gary and Lori Talcott, Don Miles and Willie. All were experience and accomplished climbers except for myself. I had climbed heavily for 2 years but that was my first major climb. Willie was so awesome, he took the time to teach me everything from knots to arresting techniques. I still remember when I first heard about the accident, it felt like a horse kicked me in the stomach. I guess when its your time... RIP my friend.
Climbing mount rainier in February? This is where an experienced climber killed himself and others and endangered many. I live near the mountain and had to double check the date in disbelief.
@@thereissomecoolstuff My condolences. I'm not surprised by the death toll, not with how unpredictable the weather is supposed to be. He should have known better than to take a bunch of unexperienced newbies up in the middle of winter, and the group pressured that one student at the start too much. Lucky for them that they stuck to their guns and they didn't end up stranded up there for 3 days.
@11:15 that's quite the silly snow ghost there. I've climbed St. Helens and S. Sister to the summit and climbed the rest of the Sisters and Hood in general. I'd like to give the big R a shot someday.
Willi Unsoeld was a fatal accident waiting to happen. The missing element in his teaching philosophy of learning through risk, was his personal lack of risk management skills. This accident, though tragic, was not a surprise.
The sad thing is, there are three things that need to go right to summit; being physically able, mentally able and the weather. His physical ailment should have been the limiting factor and yet he managed to fail all three.
I've been on Mount Tahoma (I refuse to call it Rainier) multiple times on the lower slopes, but nothing could convince me to climb up onto the glaciers, at any season. I don't understand mountaineering, spelunking, cave diving, or any of this incredibly dangerous type of sport, but more power to y'all. My ex also attended Evergreen State College, which is about 5miles away, so it's kind of cool to hear these things.
It was kind of a combination of all of the above. It has erupted many times and the eruptions were big enough to slowly fill in many miles of the Puget Sound.
I grew up at the foothills of Rainier. When I was 15, my friend invited me to accompany her and an "instructor in outdoor skills" from a local college-I can not remember if she said "Evergreen" or Green River" as both colleges were nearby. Anyway, at 15, I was an adventuresome and athletic girl and I said yes. What a disaster! He put us in situations of great peril. We had had no climbing experience past snow level (day hikes were all we had done) and he had us high up in the snow level in July. I was very apprehensive as he tried to teach us "glissading" with ice axes to teach "self arrest." He chose some very steep terrain to do so and I ended up totally freaked out, skinned my entire backside from sharp ice and literally flew down a slope and only at the last minutes was able to arrest my slide. I returned home, sunburned, traumatized and promising myself I would NEVER put myself in someone's hands like that. I Continued hiking in the Cascades (on some 10 day trips) in years later, but never attempted anything in snow or other challenging terrains. I think this guy was a real goof ball for taking two novice girls up so high. Thanks for reading this far. I hadn't thought about this "event" for decades.
I'll stick with the vulcanologists and count my blessings for Morbid Midnights infinite nihilistic talents no one can come close to matching my favorite channel feed it's not even close !
I climbed the mountain ten years ago when I was 50. I made the ascent in the summer. The wild flowers and views were simply gorgeous. That said, I think Willi should have taken his responsibility more seriously and called off the ascent when the weather got bad.
I respect these mountains too much to climb them. I love admiring them either from a distance or getting up to safe places which are reached by car or hike which doesn’t include climbing ice.
If we had a Time Machine and this was the Renaissance Morbid Midnight and his craft would stand as equals to Da Vinci , Michelangelo , Raphael, and Botticelli. 👑👑👑
The idealism fostered at Evergreen has cost so many lives, in so many ways. These are just the ones easily counted. RIP to all the victims of Evergreen
It is difficult to understand how somebody could die under 2 feet of snow. I suppose they could not free themselves and that snow had filled their airways.
It's camp Muri, pronounced like meerkat, not camp more. Proper Pronunciation dosen't normally bother me, but I can't finish this video, because it's driving me nuts 🤣
Your voice is wife repellent. My wife hears 'that sedated dispassionate voice' and she knows it's going to be something with dead people and she leaves the room. Thank you. And for the videos too.
@6:30 that's Paradise, WA, on Mt Rainer. There was a white out and I had to grab my girlfriend and pull her back onto the snow a step before she would have gone over the edge of the cliff face.
Wouldn't a more accurate measurement of how deadly a mountain is be total number of climbers vs how many deaths instead of total number of summits? Because those two numbers would be different things & would change the total of the percentage.
I was thinking about that as well but then what would constitute "climbers"? Would people who only make it halfway or less before turning back count too?
@@PhilipCarroll64 well then I would ask what constitutes climbing the mountain? Would only making it up a few hundred yards before turning back count? Could those people go home and tell their friends, "Hey I climbed Mt Everest!!!"? LOL, kind of a grey area but I get your point.
I've never been into mountaineering but you do a really good job making them accessible to a broader audience despite the complicated details involved.
Yep. I have now watched every goddamn mountaineering video that is on TH-cam because of this guy😅
I have to leave this comment. Willi was an incredible pioneer for mountaineering, but he was a terrible human. He repeatedly put people’s lives in danger for the sake of conquering the mountain. He’s the reason his daughter passed away on the mountain with her namesake. He continued to push her even though she said she wasn’t able to continue. He put those students in the position to be caught in the storm. A person who truly cared for other’s safety would make the smart decision immediately, being the expert out of everyone. Instead he delayed because he figured there was a chance they could still summit. I’m not sorry that he’s gone, I’m sorry that he directly caused other’s to lose their life, including his daughter.
Some people are just thoroughly self absorbed or simply lack empathy. I push myself beyond what I think my limits are when I get the opportunity, within reason, but I would never put someone else in jeopardy just because I want to do something. If you’re out in the wilderness you should always carry a responsibility for the safety of your companions.
We climbed the route a few weeks later, and found a pack, with a stuff sack in it labeled "Unsoeld." We're not sure whose pack it was. We brought it back down and left it with park rangers, and were told that it would be put into a small museum honoring Willie.
That’s a really cool detail.
If you can't carry your own equipment, you should NOT go on any expedition. No matter how much "experience" you have.... A liability is a death sentence when doing any extreme sports.
Rainier is, indeed, not a terribly difficult mountain, but it is dangerous, especially in late winter and early spring. I remember when this happened, and the timing of it always seemed bad to me - late February/early March is a terrible time to climb this mountain, because the weather is so fickle.
Yes. I remember, too.
“Cadaver Gap” does not inspire confidence!
I know right lol 😂
Back in 1990 i was working at REI in Anchorage Alaska and i was climbing and Backcountry skiing in Alaska. I guy working there who was a very experienced climber who i knew went to Mt. Ranier to make a winter ascent. They made it to the summit but he broke up from the group to ski a extreme line. He fell and died his body was recovered. He was cool to me and a bunch of fools at REI doubted that i could climb Denali at age 19.
Later that summer i summited Denali in July. I will never forget that guy he was kind and positive.
I'm not a mountaineer but I am an experienced hiker and I've climbed a few mountains, if there is one hardcore mountain I really want to climb, its Denali. The reason being its the highest elevation gain (on land) of any mountain anywhere on earth. I'm almost 40 now so odds are I probably won't but you never know.
@@NefvilleDenali is not the highest peak in the world, It is the highest peak in North America Everest is the highest elevation on earth.
@@billt6116 That's why they specified highest elevation gain - Everest rises out of a plateau that's already at major elevation, so despite the summit of Everest being higher in the sense of total height, further from sea level, Denali is taller in the sense of the summit being further from the base of the mountain.
@MissaBrevis And the big island of Hawai has that beat.
@@billt6116 And you start at the base climbing underwater with scuba gear ?? Lol
I think it's pronounced "Camp Myur", like John Muir the naturalist/mountaineer.
Yes, or "camp meer." Rhymes with beer
It is named after John Muir. Not sure if the Morbid Midnight dude is American or not, but either way it's kinda weird he isn't familiar with how that name is pronounced, considering his content area.
Still love these, but him mispronouncing that was driving me crazy lol
Yea it’s pronounced me - ur. There’s a Muir Woods outside of San Fran and a bunch of hospitals in the area called John Muir. It was killing me too hearing midnight mispronounce it. But great video!
John Muir. MEW-er.
It's not rocket science. One can easily Google pronounce Camp Muir for the correct pronunciation.
I live in Townsend,Tennessee and frequently hike in the backcountry of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park on and around the Appalachian Trail. I ALWAYS carry a portable HAM radio that includes a weather radio. As winter is my favorite time to experience the Appalachian backcountry I always do a frequent check on weather conditions for the coming hours and days.
If you don't respect Mother Nature when you're alone in the backcountry,she WILL humble you.
You did catch the date on this correct?
No joke, I was imagining you would talk about Mt Rainier in your next video, and here we are. What a coincidence.
Always better to be down here, wishing you were up there, than up there wishing you was down here.
“You’re not dead until you’re warm and dead”
I can imagine how angry the students who’d wanted to leave earlier may have been
Love ur mountaineering disasters storys. There by far my favorite videos. I have seen all of them multiple times
They're always the same story though. Unexpected storm that lasts way longer than it has any right to.
@@Heike-- most of the time but not always. Plenty of slip and falls or succumbing to altitude sickness.
@@coinraker6497 Usually caused by the storm. No rescue possible due to weather. Or people slip and fall because they'll die if they don't get off the mountain soon. Or they fall into a crevasse because the storm makes it impossible to mountaineer properly.
Ur aren't a climber I take it.... I've climbed my whole life and anyhing can happen at a y moment it can go from great to a tragedy. u are truly on ur own most of the time besides ur partner or team and u never know what can happen it's a very dangerous sport and it's very fun and amazing set u apart from all the people who want 2 climb, are 2 scared or can't climb it's a part of my life I cherish and unfortunately i got injured and needed surgery , these videos keep me motivated and keep my climbing itch at bay they always hit close 2 home for me and there all different in there own aspect yes some are storms some are avalanche but there all differ in there differences and it makes then so epic and thrilling!!
Can't say I love to hear about disaster stories if that is something one looks forward to for entertainment. Lessons learned at the expence of another's misfortune or mistakes seems more appropriate. Unless you've been mountain climbing and climbed Rainier/Tahoma, then one knows any time above the treeline can turn deadly. The MUIR Snowfield has taken many a life within site of Paradise. Never underestimate the mountain conditions and weather, which like many high peaks like Tahoma, may change in a heartbeat. My dad was longtime friend and mountain climbing buddy of Willi and was shocked to hear of his passing.
This same program also taught its students it was safe to use pressure treated wood to cook food on. Evergreen is a true clown collage.
College 😅
10:18 Cadaver Gap and Disappointment Cleaver, uh-uh, I ain't climbing that!
I'm a 45 year old native Washingtonian. My family have been here since 1765. Thank you SO MUCH for giving notice to the real name of Tahoma and for pronouncing it correctly. This reminds me why I love everything about you!
I've also been warning for years, about Glacier Peak, which Professor Nick Zentner at Central Washington University just discovered this summer.
Subbed when I heard it said correctly!
Evergreen State in 1980 was also known as "Hippy Day Care".
Just goes to show even with the most experienced people leading a group on a relatively safe mountain, things can still go very wrong.
Weather forecasts are also much, much better these days.
Rainier is NOT safe in the winter-the weather is super unpredictable, rarely good, and usually miserable. My dentist died below Camp Muir (~9000' elevation) in October from an unexpected snowstorm. I've been to the top twice, but during August, and it was T-shirt weather both times. My first summer attempt (1981) was cancelled due to fog and snow/rain. I neglected to tell my family about cancelling. That weekend news broke about 11 climbers being swept away by a massive ice fall on the Ingraham Glacier. You can imagine the panic I caused. But nothing compared to the family & friends of the 11 dead climbers.
For an experienced climber, he made a lot of mistakes. Rainier is not a safe mountain, at all. The only reason it's climbed so much is because of it's ease of accessibility to a nearby metropolitan area. I've made three attempts and summited twice. The way he lead the expedition is unheard of these days and as the story unfolded I was not surprised that people were killed. SO many red flags. Thank God more didn't die.
@@chrimony Yes, but the mountain creates it's own weather so they're still unpredictable.
@@ADAMJWAITE I would need to say data to believe that claim. For example, you can get lake effect snow in places like Buffalo, which is a local system "creating its own weather", but that doesn't mean they can't predict when it happens.
Ridiculous, receive a message of worsening weather for 3 days and then hold a debate and do neither for a whole day!😂😂 That's incompetence
Exactly! What a bozo leader
I was going to post something similar. As the leader and only experienced climber, Unsoeld shouldn't have let the team debate on what to do, he should have ordered they descend like he originally wanted. Unfortunately he and that girl paid the price.
Trying to please everyone never works out.
Perhaps the ‘sunk cost’ fallacy was at play. They’d already been attempting to summit for 7 days. Those who fought to continue thought summiting would make their extended efforts worthwhile. Rest In Peace, Willie & Janey 🕯
@@GaiaCarney You can NEVER have that mentality when climbing. I've attempted thrice and summited Rainier twice. It's up to the mountain to let you summit. On our third attempt we wisely made the decision to turn back due to bad weather and illness. We could have went ahead and possibly made it but in retrospect, I don't regret that decision in the slightest. Most of the groups hiring RMC guides don't make the summit because the guides are experienced enough to know to turn around.
Mt. Rainier holds a special place in my heart. It’s stunning. I will never try to climb it.
Feels like I've heard of evergreen state before
A lot.full of activists
Oh , you have
Yeah..they were protesting a bunch. made the news probably 2016 or so..
@@GarlicMonoxide If, by "protesting", you mean taking the college president hostage and running around like they were in a Lord of the Flies movie, then yes.
@@chrimony I was being nice..I didn't want to politicize the channel. I'm new, and don't know the culture here. They did much worse too
Thanks so much for covering this and just giving us another video.
Willi Unsoeld has a fascinating mountaineering history. If I understand correctly, his personal philosophy maintained that participation in adventure was crucial to effective participation in society. Further, the adventure needed to have the potential to be fatal to have the positive effect on citizenship. It might be more subtle than this but this is how I've always understood his philosophy.
Sounds pretty fascist to be honest. They are always into extreme physical fitness, always braying about "muh citizenship " and the like. You can be a person and your documentation status doesn't matter
@@Heike-- We have borders for a reason.
@@Heike-- No, he was just a spiritual nutcase. He treated even the death of his daughter as a spiritual experience and he believed that people only grow spiritually through experiencing danger and everyone has not only the right, but a kind of duty to put themselves through that - which is why he let the students decide whether they wanted to return or not and why he didn't even tell his daughter, who was clearly unwell on Nanda Devi, to turn back but let her die. In some ways he was really anti-fascist, because he didn't believe in a leader, but in personal experience on an individual level. "Citizenship" is not meant in the sense of documented citizen, but simply "person contributing to their community".
@@Heike--I agree documentation status has no bearing on personhood. Pretty sure Unsoeld wasn't fascist. I didn't explain his philosophy very well. Better explained here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi_Unsoeld
@@mikemcintosh9933 For someone who's not a fascist, then why does his philosophy of life dovetail with fascism so well?
Early March, that's winter! Why would he think it would be a good idea taking inexperienced students up a big crevassed mountain in winter? Baffling.
Another fantastic telling of a tragic tale, I always look forward to your new releases!
Me too! Always loved this channel!
Thank you so much for all of your hard work your stories are better than television ❤ you actually need your own television show 😀 i don't want to watch anything else, im a swat team commander and me and my whole team watch your shows ❤
It's 85F here, but I got a chill from this
If you can't carry your own gear then you probably shouldn't go mountaineering.
I heard THAT 👍.. is it me or is that just common sense? Old boy had no business on that mountain till he was all healed up
Never heard of this.. as always great information
Armchair mountaineer here.
I am an avid hiker who has dappled in mountain climbing. The first thing you learn is your own limitations and fears.
I live 60 miles from Rainier, have a library of trail and mountain books. Thought I knew this story but many new details here. Great job. 🍺
I remember this like it was yesterday. I first climbed Mt. Raineer in 1974 when I was 12 years old with my brother Bob Gabbard, Dick/Gary and Lori Talcott, Don Miles and Willie. All were experience and accomplished climbers except for myself. I had climbed heavily for 2 years but that was my first major climb. Willie was so awesome, he took the time to teach me everything from knots to arresting techniques. I still remember when I first heard about the accident, it felt like a horse kicked me in the stomach. I guess when its your time...
RIP my friend.
I would not call mt rainier “beginner friendly”; you need knowledge and gear for glacier travel, as well as, apparently, avalanche knowledge.
Climbing mount rainier in February? This is where an experienced climber killed himself and others and endangered many. I live near the mountain and had to double check the date in disbelief.
They're not the first young people he's done that to. Just the last ones.
@@HaesslichG that was back in the day where you over trusted.
@@thereissomecoolstuff It still happens. It's just we call those people influencers now.
@@HaesslichG I lost a friend on Rainer 20 years ago. The death total of over 500 surprised me.
@@thereissomecoolstuff My condolences. I'm not surprised by the death toll, not with how unpredictable the weather is supposed to be. He should have known better than to take a bunch of unexperienced newbies up in the middle of winter, and the group pressured that one student at the start too much. Lucky for them that they stuck to their guns and they didn't end up stranded up there for 3 days.
Living in the Pacific Northwest, hearing about missing hikers are the norm. 😢
Sad, but true.
Local joke... (Q) What do you get from 4 years of doing drugs?
(A) A degree from evergreen state!
Another great story. I’m surprised your channel doesn’t have more subs yet!
Mt. Gonga is a gigantic warning ⚠️🚨 of instant ☠️💀
Love how I live across the street from this college and I come across this! What are the odds? I never heard this story!
@11:15 that's quite the silly snow ghost there. I've climbed St. Helens and S. Sister to the summit and climbed the rest of the Sisters and Hood in general. I'd like to give the big R a shot someday.
You have to be pretty experienced to summit Rainer in February. It's amazing to be up there. It's truly magical.
Another fine video, Midnight, thanks 🎉.
Willi Unsoeld was a fatal accident waiting to happen. The missing element in his teaching philosophy of learning through risk, was his personal lack of risk management skills. This accident, though tragic, was not a surprise.
Cody Townsend's The Fifty Project does a great job of showing the process of making climbing risk management decisions.
Proof that every theory looks great on paper; it's the execution of said theory that might prove difficult.
Just recently had hip replacement surgery? Ok.
Hip replacement shmip replacement, its just climbing like 9000 ft no biggie 🤣
Not a good time to climb a mountain.
The sad thing is, there are three things that need to go right to summit; being physically able, mentally able and the weather. His physical ailment should have been the limiting factor and yet he managed to fail all three.
Yup, today is starting off right!
I'm only 19 seconds in, and I had to pause to say that somehow I just know I'm going to like this one.
I've been on Mount Tahoma (I refuse to call it Rainier) multiple times on the lower slopes, but nothing could convince me to climb up onto the glaciers, at any season. I don't understand mountaineering, spelunking, cave diving, or any of this incredibly dangerous type of sport, but more power to y'all. My ex also attended Evergreen State College, which is about 5miles away, so it's kind of cool to hear these things.
Excellent as always, many thanks.
hmmm Mt Raniers past eruptions, were typically large flows/lahars with ashfalls instead of the feared mega blasts from what I have read
It was kind of a combination of all of the above. It has erupted many times and the eruptions were big enough to slowly fill in many miles of the Puget Sound.
Here we go!!!!
I really like your calm narration, such a breath of fresh air. Very relaxing.
its objectively annoying
Bloke sounds like he's asleep. Terrible
Morbid Tuesday ! Awesome...
They went at the wrong time of the year
weather in the mountains is of the utmost importance !! if there are warnings of deteriorating weather do not climb higher !!!!
I grew up at the foothills of Rainier. When I was 15, my friend invited me to accompany her and an "instructor in outdoor skills" from a local college-I can not remember if she said "Evergreen" or Green River" as both colleges were nearby. Anyway, at 15, I was an adventuresome and athletic girl and I said yes. What a disaster! He put us in situations of great peril. We had had no climbing experience past snow level (day hikes were all we had done) and he had us high up in the snow level in July. I was very apprehensive as he tried to teach us "glissading" with ice axes to teach "self arrest." He chose some very steep terrain to do so and I ended up totally freaked out, skinned my entire backside from sharp ice and literally flew down a slope and only at the last minutes was able to arrest my slide. I returned home, sunburned, traumatized and promising myself I would NEVER put myself in someone's hands like that. I Continued hiking in the Cascades (on some 10 day trips) in years later, but never attempted anything in snow or other challenging terrains. I think this guy was a real goof ball for taking two novice girls up so high. Thanks for reading this far. I hadn't thought about this "event" for decades.
Love your presentation style. It's always so respectful.❤❤
I'll stick with the vulcanologists and count my blessings for Morbid Midnights infinite nihilistic talents no one can come close to matching my favorite channel feed it's not even close !
11:53 that snow looks so happy
I climbed the mountain ten years ago when I was 50. I made the ascent in the summer. The wild flowers and views were simply gorgeous.
That said, I think Willi should have taken his responsibility more seriously and called off the ascent when the weather got bad.
I wonder why the recovery of the bodies couldn't wait for less inclement weather. does the weather too rarely improve? what a terrible past time.
Because that's the peak of winter and if the bodies weren't recovered soon they would be covered by subsequent snow storms and possibly never found.
Mount Rainier is not an easy ascent and it's not a hike. It is technical and if you don't have any experience you need to go with a guide
I am in Enumclaw, the footholds of Rainier. I see her beauty almost everyday and wonder when she will flip her lid.
Muir is pronounced MEW-uhr. Named after John Muir.
Mount rainier otherwise known as Mount Doom
I respect these mountains too much to climb them. I love admiring them either from a distance or getting up to safe places which are reached by car or hike which doesn’t include climbing ice.
If we had a Time Machine and this was the Renaissance Morbid Midnight and his craft would stand as equals to Da Vinci , Michelangelo , Raphael, and Botticelli. 👑👑👑
You should do a story on mt Hood 2006 tragedy.
Bro takes his Xanax right after waking up and then records his videos. 1.25x necessary
Better than that dark 5 guy who talks at 2.25 😮. Holy meth Batman
I like the slow speed, to listen to at bedtime
Even 1.5x wasn't fast enough.
I'm sorry, but debating with inexperienced students? Being a leader means you make the decisions, even if they are unpopular.
There is no leadership at Evergreen State. Refer to the student riots of 2017.
Evergreen College? I'm not surprised this happened after seeing what occurred in 2017.
What the feck? This took place decades before 2017.
@@FAB13You missed the point
@@Superduper666 Then explain?
@@FAB13 The college is a joke. With far left experimental programs that shouldn't even be accredited.
Who decided this was a good time of year to attempt this?
That one glacier pic looked like a Yeti with arms outstretched.
You sure that wasn’t Sasquatch?
The idealism fostered at Evergreen has cost so many lives, in so many ways. These are just the ones easily counted. RIP to all the victims of Evergreen
I remember Lou Whittaker was a Mt. Rainier expert. He has summited Everest 3 times.
It's back!!! 😂😂
RIP Jannie.
At minute 3:05 look at the mountain’s left side. It looks like Christ behind the clouds. I don’t think I am hallucinating. Anyone else see it?
Nope. But look up pareidolia.
I got my ged from that school
What is your mountaineering experience? Just curious
FYI also its pronounced camp MEER or M-YUR not moore. Named after John Muir.
24:45, you mean March 10, not Februaray 10.
Best viewed at 2X speed.
The mispronunciation of the name “Muir” is a bit hard to understand.
Camp Muir rhymes with pure. Sorry, it was driving me crazy.
It is difficult to understand how somebody could die under 2 feet of snow. I suppose they could not free themselves and that snow had filled their airways.
Its way heavier than you think . Especially if wetter than normal
Snow from an avalanche gets hard very quickly, and it's already gotten everywhere before that happens.
Willy has been happily reunited with his daughter. Thanks…
8:31 - so at least there was one survivor from the party. Bad feeling, or just not feeling good?
It's camp Muri, pronounced like meerkat, not camp more. Proper Pronunciation dosen't normally bother me, but I can't finish this video, because it's driving me nuts 🤣
I wonder if there's anywhere using dogsled teams as mountain rescue? Anyone outside of Alaska and the Northwest Territories know of dogsled rescue?
It's WAY too steep for that.
@@ADAMJWAITE Oh right. Now I feel kinda dumb, but good point !
Your voice is wife repellent. My wife hears 'that sedated dispassionate voice' and she knows it's going to be something with dead people and she leaves the room. Thank you. And for the videos too.
Evergreen State College has always been a clown college, not surprised the incompetence extended to a high adventure field trip.
Muir….M-your
" Strings"? Don't you mean ropes or lines?
Are you talking about the avalanche cord? Mine was a light nylon string.
The psychic one opted out.
He was the smartest one of the bunch.
@6:30 that's Paradise, WA, on Mt Rainer. There was a white out and I had to grab my girlfriend and pull her back onto the snow a step before she would have gone over the edge of the cliff face.
Is it just me, or does the glacier at 11:30 look like a ghost?
Wouldn't a more accurate measurement of how deadly a mountain is be total number of climbers vs how many deaths instead of total number of summits?
Because those two numbers would be different things & would change the total of the percentage.
I was thinking about that as well but then what would constitute "climbers"? Would people who only make it halfway or less before turning back count too?
@@coinraker6497 Yes. It would be anyone who climbed the mountain. That would constitute a climber.
@@PhilipCarroll64 well then I would ask what constitutes climbing the mountain? Would only making it up a few hundred yards before turning back count? Could those people go home and tell their friends, "Hey I climbed Mt Everest!!!"? LOL, kind of a grey area but I get your point.
ok at this point lets just stop naming things "Evergreen" - its not working out fellows.
Best!
1.5x speed is perfect
Evergreen State College- Ted Bundy's old stalking grounds.