Dog Training Outside The Box: Transfer Of Value Case Study
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- When we train dogs with layered shaping, we train with out of the box thinking. In this episode, I’m giving a glimpse of what that looks like and how it relates to the transfer of value. It starts with knowing what a dog loves most of all. I’m also covering a case study on how we used the transfer of reinforcement value for a German Shepherd so that they could learn to retrieve without a force fetch.
In the episode you'll hear:
• What we need our dog to understand about reinforcement and what we need to understand.
• A review of the reinforcement process in our dog training.
• Why your dog's age, the location you are training, and what you are training matter.
• The importance of your placement and delivery of reinforcement.
• How we found something that a German Shepherd loved and used it for training.
• The process of transferring the value from bubbles to food with a target stick.
• Why we need to change a dog’s physiology for training.
• How ping-ponging reinforcements help with the transfer of value.
• That there’s not a linear path for all dogs, so we think outside the box.
• About our brand new free DoggyFlix video streaming adventure for dog people.
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Resources:
1. TH-cam Playlist: Susan Garrett's Dog Training Philosophy and Training Processes
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Podcast Episode 175: Food Luring VS Shaping In Dog Training: How Science Changed How I Teach Dogs - • Food Luring VS Shaping...
3. Podcast Episode 174: Dopamine In Dog Training: Anticipation, Rewards, And The Transfer Of Value - • Dopamine In Dog Traini...
4. Podcast Episode 151: How Location Specific Reinforcement Markers Will Improve Your Dog Training! - • How Location Specific ...
5. Podcast Episode 31: 5 Simple Hacks to Help Your Dog Learn Faster (Reinforcement Process) - • 5 Simple Hacks to Help...
6. Podcast Episode 176: Why Your Dog’s Emotions Are A Critical Element Of Dog Training - • Why Your Dog’s Emotion...
7. TH-cam Playlist: Target Training for Dogs with Susan Garrett - • Target Training for Do...
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Timestamps:
00:00 Training Out of the Box
01:51 Why Reinforcement Matters
02:23 What Dogs Needs to Know About Reinforcement
05:51 What We Need to Know About Reinforcement
06:17 Your Dog’s Age, the Location, and Distractions During Training
08:35 Delivering Reinforcement
10:04 German Shepherd Transfer of Value Case Study
14:20 Ping Pong Process
16:08 There’s Not a Linear Path
17:09 New Free DoggyFlix for Dog People
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Susan Garrett’s interest in animal behaviour started at the University of Guelph where she earned a Bachelor of Science majoring in Animal Science. Since then she has developed into a preeminent dog trainer and canine sports instructor and competitor. Susan is one of the most successful agility competitors of the last three decades. She has won multiple Gold Medals at National or World Championship events with every dog she has ever owned over the past 30 years.
A natural teacher and an entertaining speaker, Susan is world renowned as a leading educator of dog trainers. Her understanding of how to apply science-based learning principles to both competitive and family pet dog training has been pivotal in changing how dogs are trained.
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The video of Tater coming out of your house on the doggyflix page is SO CUTE! I LOVE TATER!
Thanks for an example of how you do out of the box transfer of value!
I am using bubbles to help one of my client dogs. He loves bubbles but not the neighbor's dog. We are building the use of bubbles into his recall so eventually we will have transferred the value of the bubbles to his food. He likes food but not as much a bubbles. So fun to have this podcast to show the family.
That's so awesome, Sally! Keep us posted! 💞
I finally got a grip of what transfer of value means!!!! Thank you!!!!
You are so welcome! Thank you @Monica Hermanson
I have a pup that is hard to keep engaged/ excited about training. This was a “light bulb”! Moment for me.
Susan you are absolutely brilliant! I get it...most of the time I understand it but I 'get it'. I know what you're saying and I'm watching it happen. I have a video taken today of the WOW game and my super beautiful dog demonstrating it perfectly and just today, we did a recall, off a moving, airborne frisbee! A MOVING IN THE AIR FRISBEE! Recallers is the best on line class, I have ever experienced.
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This video has help me to understand how to transfer the value of something better than any other video I have watched before. Thank you so much!
We are so glad you found us! Thank you for watching
@@DogsThat I am definitely glad that I have found you. I have shared more of these videos than any others!
Thanx xxx from granny owned by a cattle dog... so grateful
Thank you, Kerry! We're grateful to have you in our community.
Awesome!
Thank you for your brilliant insight! I would like to know how to train without verbal cues as my 13 yo child is Deaf & mostly non verbal. She is very smart and good with the pets, but she mostly uses lures and I would like to teach my child better how to train her own dog. The dog is 19 months old and the dog does well with verbal cues. She also trains her cat, with all luring. TY for everything you’ve done for us sharing these videos. You’ve made a huge difference in our lives!
This video and the one previous is exactly what we needed. I now understood the significance of one of the HSD games, which I have not played enough. We will play more of that because I believe the game could help transfer the value from food to tug for my dog. Thank you very much!
Susan, came across your videos and I've been binge watching! I have a doodle puppy arriving next week and I am getting ready with your Crate Games online course. You bring a lot of assurance that with good training, we'll have a confident and well balanced dog. Also, something tells me that this process of training my dog will teach me ways of being a more effective leader and better human being!
Thank you for such a lovely note, @Rachael Tiow! What a wonderful start already for your puppy. So exciting that arrival is so close now.
My ah-ha moment was how well I was actually doing with my training for tugging. Win doesn't like it, so I will be reviewing your podcasts on emotions and anxiety next. And I will go on over the the Recallers site to ask some questions, but it good to know that I am on the right track. As always, thank you and your team for coming up with such creative and inspirational training opportunities for us.
The ADD workbook 😊
that's nice that you did the follow-up for the german shepherd story.
I love case studies, this was great. Excited for doggyflix.
Your podcasts are so good. Too many ah ha moments to list. I go back often to watch again to get the points that I have missed and then try it out with my dog.
Wonderful! Thank you for tuning in and for playing with your dog, @Lin Mc!
Another awesome video! And thank you for the “out loud laugh” I got when you were explaining how the dog went “cra cra” over the Bubbles. Omg. Too funny! I could picture it. I discovered this “transfer of value” through watching your Dogs That videos. (and H360,AN) It really is an Ah ha moment when it works for you and your dog. Wish everyone who trains a dog could discover this “gem”
Thank you Susan You have totally explained how to transfer the value I
My dog is crazy for the ball. I’m going to introduce it in my training sequences!
aha moment...this time the "here's how you do it" process of transfer of value from lower value to higher value hit home. Thank you....ONWARD!
My dog training is going very well, thanks to you, but you just gave me a new tool to improve my ground training for my horse. She has been getting mad at me for some new requests, I think the bubbles training is going to help. 🎉
This sounds great, please come back to let us know how your training goes! ❤
My horse learned IYC ! I just wanted her to turn her head away from my cookie hand, and she got it. I started to teach her halter grab, but I ran out of treats. She seemed like she was starting to get that.
I grew up with the “forced retrieve”. After watching that a couple of times I decided that I didn’t want to do competition Obedience any more.
Thank you
thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! I enjoy that. I have 2 questions Susann: To keep value on your reinforcement, you need to use sometimes the bubulle (in the case of this dog) to avoid he loose the interest in your standard reinforcement? (food or whatever?). The other question is about dopamine: you explained that if the reward is below expected, you block dopamine for a moment, or no dopamine if reward = expectation. So I can not figure out how it is possible to keep interest in training? Without increasing value of reward all the time? sorry for my poor english and thanks for your answer. :)
??? How would you do rattlesnake training? I live and hike in an area with a lot of rattlesnakes. They generally do a one time shock collar training to teach them to stay away from rattlesnakes. Look forward to your ideas and thoughts.
Susan what can you use in place of a clicker for deaf dogs?
A very interesting episode, thank you very much.
You emphasized here that dogs need to understand when they will earn reinforcement. Could you comment on the reverse - how to convey that it's not reinforcement time yet - they have to wait a bit?
In our training class, my dog knows she will earn reinforcement and when she has to wait her turn on a bed (because there is some explanation or because it's not her turn yet), she is prone to excited barking in anticipation of food coming. I think she associates the whole training environment with FOOD. Could you share any tips on how I teach her to wait quietly in this high arousal environment?
Hi Kate, we have a video to help with dogs who get excited when training - th-cam.com/video/06CyHsE-bEY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much, you seem to have a video for just about everything! I just watched it. Will be acting on the 10-point advice. Thanks again.
Clicker training: it works for EVERY SPECIES!!! correct! Including SNAKES AND REPTILES! I use it on my dogs, my birds, my snakes and my lizards! I am considering using it on my son... lol
Thank you so much for this, and all of your episodes. Re transfer of value (bubbles to food for the German Shepherd), target, CLICK, FOOD, TARGET, no click......and then SAY BUBBLED and race to the bubbles? Or.....target, click, food, target, CLICK, FOOD, SAY BUBBLES and race to the bubbles? (I understand the ping ponging of the numbers of times dog get food vs bubbles, etc....its the last sequence before going to the bubbles I need to know.) Since my dog is so so about food and I want transfer of value from, say, the ball, to food, should 'the dog's LAST ACTIION BEFORE THE BIG REWARD (BALL) BE TO TAKE THE FOOD? Or is the LAST ACTION BEFORE THE BALL IS TO DO THE TOUCH, then get the ball (on the variable schedule of course). Thank you.
Your first suggestion of the procedure was correct. When say bubbles no click, no food.
I really would love my newf to do agility or training for swimming but all he wants to do it’s sniff and eat the grass or chase the other dogs. It’s such a struggle, food, toy, clicker nothing grabs him. I know it’s me but I don’t know how to grab his attention
Wow! Doggyflix for free! Thank you so so much! God bless for loving dogs and dog lovers.
How'd you get so darn smart!
Mary, it's great you found the case study!
I called a dog club to sign up for a class as I was on the phone my 10 week old puppy starts barking at his old brother she said to squirt her with the biggest water bottle.. I was upset I want my dog to get positive reinforcement not negative also I want my dog to like water if she wants to. Another thought came a cross my mind was when it starts raining she will think she’s doing something wrong.
So let me get this straight I'm new just started seeing this today. How you train your dogs is a clicker saying cookie and then giving your dog the cookie? I just got a little ankle bitter on Sunday he's a Yorkie Bichon mix and I was trying the baiting style because I was watching McCann dogs here on TH-cam and that's what they do but this dog is not responsive to food. Not even its own kibble even tho it's the same stuff he's been eating from the place I got him from. He's not excited by any toys but what he does like is when my 12 month old is crawling around and gets all over him but my baby hates it so not really sure what to do
Hi @justFreya5, thank you so much for tuning in. We have a full playlist on the way we train, here's that link for you:
th-cam.com/play/PLphRRSxcMHy2An5_3KqDPqFVV6J6dYsYx.html
For the clicker, we've got a video specifically for how it's used:
th-cam.com/video/Hl2aB1TrE1E/w-d-xo.html
We also have a video for dogs and children:
th-cam.com/video/GyDPin2fZ-o/w-d-xo.html
And to go along with that a video on reading a dog's body language:
th-cam.com/video/t1Zcqp8IwnI/w-d-xo.html
If you new dog is an older dog, you can check out our video for welcoming a rescue dog or older dog to your family:
th-cam.com/video/-WTjF2ll7Xc/w-d-xo.html
And if you have a puppy, we have a playlist full of puppy essentials to help:
th-cam.com/play/PLphRRSxcMHy2hywpv3Md3HbWWPPbVF8W5.html
Do you have any tips for me to combine my boys favourite reinforcement with his overstimulation? In context, he ALWAYS responds if I call him and throw ball to chase or run in opposite direction (mainly to stop him running away to chase a dog across the park)- BUT when he gets that excitement rush he quite often triggers too…..so he will chase the ball then come back to jump and bite my arms and legs etc. He is an 11 month old husky - he isbetter and calms down quicker than he did asyoung pup ( thanks to your podcasts) , but damn it still hurts. Can you combine the 2 aspects or is there something Else I should be doing? He does not accept treats as a reward for recall even when it’s super high value, and if I’m not exciting enough he won’t even listen! It’s crazy but it’s like the recall is too exciting for him to handle LOL. I’m stuck for ideas!
Hi @Sarah Willmott our playlist on the emotions of dogs has a lot of help - th-cam.com/play/PLphRRSxcMHy29pv3_9b7DZdMFJL9ZJPMy.html
@@DogsThat Thank you so much. There are some great tips to work with there 😊
Thanks Susan! I love the case studies to learn about the practical application of your training. It really helps me to think outside the box. I am looking forward to Doggyflix. Thanks for everything you do to help us and our dogs.
I discovered your amazing podcast new. I want yo learn more but I can't enter doggyflix
Hi Deniz, thank you for pointing that out. We've fixed it for you: dogsthat.com/y/doggyflix
Happy training!