Why Shrink A Perfectly Good Plane? - Lockheed Electra Junior | Aircraft History 113
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Recently, we looked at the Lockheed Model 10 Electra, and today we’re continuing our exploration of this famous line of aircraft by looking at the Model 12 Electra Junior.
Sources:
Francillon.R.J (1987), Lockheed Aircraft Since 1913.
Gunston.B (1998), Lockheed Aircraft: The History of Lockheed Martin - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others?
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Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators?
A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
Have you done the british gladiator? I dont seem to see a video about it from you if there is one
Hi, do You know why did Germans painted noses of BF 109 and FW190 yellow? I've read some possible explanaitions, but none give definitive answer
I think the Fisher XP-75 Eagle might provide for a fascinating subject. Dubbed the "spare parts fighter", it was an oversized hybrid combining fuselage, tail, and wing sections from various different aircraft types. It suffered from horrible stability and reliability issues, and three of the 14 of the originally-constructed prototypes crashed during the evaluation phase. I remember visiting the research division of the National Museum of the USAF(where one of the P-75's is currently on display), and when the conversation turned to the Fisher Eagle, the historian quipped, "Oh, THAT piece of junk!"
Could you please do a video on the much better known Gloster Meteor or the English Electric Canberra and the different versions of them?
Could you do something on remote controlled turrets in WW2? It seems like there were quite a few but didnt seem to really catch on. The italians seem to have had quite a few.
The most famous Lockheed Electra Junior? It is seen at the last scene of the classic film noir 'Cassablanca' where it shares the stage with Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Paul Henreid and Claude Rains. It deserved to win an Oscar. 🙂
It was just a prop. Or 2. For the main plot, a way to Lisbon and freedom.
If you had a scaled-down RC model of this plane, would be an Electra Junior Junior?
@@frankbarnwell____Exactly. It was a scaled down prop, and the “crewmen” around the plane were little people in costume.
Yes, I saw the fuselage of that plane in the Backlot at Disney's Hollywood Studios in Orlando a number of years ago. It was a full scale back then.
That Lockheed junior used to be a spy plane right before ww2 started. And then it changed hands a lot and ended up being in Casablanca. Then, some French people bought it and I got to work on it a little bit at WestCoast Air Creations.
I don’t know where it ended up.
The words 'Hudson' and 'Ventura' kept intruding into my thoughts for some odd reason...I'm eagerly awaiting the video!!
My thoughts exactly.
I love the lightning bolt design in the paintwork. Handsome planes.
An aircraft engineer called Cowling, what is this a Tintin book?
I think Kelly Johnson was almost as important to aviation as the Wright Brothers.
He was far more important and influential.
The Wright Brothers got so much wrong and flew 10 years after the first powered heavier than air flight in France. They do deserve a note in history but not near what they have.
I had the opportunity in 2022 to step inside the TWA, Electra Jr. (NC18137) on display in the hanger at the TWA museum at Kansas City downtown airport. I'm 6'-1" and it really wasn't a roomy cabin in my opinion. In fact, I felt a bit claustrophobic. Nonetheless, a pleasant looking aircraft especially in the late 1930s Transcontinental & Western Air livery. Excellent video on this subject and thanks for sharing!
Of course, the wingform and tail remind us of what will come in the P-38.
...and after that the Constellation.
A real tribute to its designers and engineers. Bravo Rex.
This, along with the Beech Model 18, has to be one of the nicest-looking aircraft ever built. Really nice video.
Beach model 18 was used in the movie Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World that debuted in 1964. It was the Pirvate ariplane of a guy the two going for the Money (they were told about in beginning by the person who died after the wreak getting away from the police) woke up who was an alcoholic who on the plane had 1 to many drinks when the others were then temporary flying the plane then with a light hit to the head the pilot went down.
Can you please make a video about Polish bomber PZL.37 Łoś ?
Congrats on the house and best of luck with the move!
Teases us with videos about nice planes that are coming up, Rex, you´re a MONSTER XD
But yes, i have seen an Electra Junior in a couple of movies as well, i think one was used in 6 days 7 nights as well.
Such a nice looking plane.
Great video, and congratulations on the new place. Moving is a pain, but it sounds like a win / win for you. Cheers.
Thank you so much for another very informative video. Looking forward to forward to your videos on the Hudson patrol bomber and especially the Beech Model 18. The Kansas Aviation Muesum may be helpful with information on vintage Beech and Cessna aircraft.
Hope you enjoyed RIAT. Don't if you are aware of it but the original Lockheed Air Terminal at KBUR is slated for destruction. LAT was located with the Lockheed production and was the major air terminus for Los Angeles up until the War when it became a restricted area due to Lockheed production of the P-38, Hudson and the first L-749 Constellations. Most Commercial flights switched to Meines Field, now KLAX. KBUR again has commercial but because of FAA regulations (Terminal 750 feet from run/taxi ways) LAT is to be completely demolished for new Termeni. It's a wrong decision as at least part of it should be Preserved. Good luck with the house and welcome to the joys of home ownership...you poor bastard...
California has gone to hell, not surprised. The former MCAS El Toro is now a housing development. There is no appreciation of history or classic air fields.
@@Pwj579
G'day,
Nobody is manufacturing any
New
Land....
And
The flocks of Aeroplanes which
Used to
Fly in and out of old
"Historic Aerodromes" are now in
Museums, Scrapyards, or were
Melted down years ago.
So,
"Real Estate Speculators"
Buy up old disused Airfields and
Do something else with the
Land
Which makes enough money to be able to
Pay the Council Rates owing on the Land.
Often, that's all it costs, to buy an Airport which doesn't break even on Revenue from Hangar Rent & Landing Fees versus Rates & Maintenance, Security & Insurance...
Thus,
Runways become Suburban
Struggle Streets, full of dysfunctional Violent Brady Bunches, all trying to pay their Mortgages (Death + Measurement, in French...).
Welcome to
Harvest Everything-ism.
Have a good one,
Stay safe...
;-p
Ciao !
@@Pwj579 They don't call it Lost Angeles for nothing. The new terminal has to be built or FAA will shut the field to commercial traffic.
An exceptionally beautiful aircraft and one of my favourites. Thanks for the presentation.
Superb presentation! I always adored the classic lines, those twin rudders and bublous twin engines of the early lockheed twins, the firm really had a flair for the beautiful which they never lost - one can clearly see the lineage of the Ventura and Hudson in the Electra twins - very few types scream golden age like the a natural metal with red trim Electra
I thoroughly enjoyed your video on the Electra Model 12. Looking forward to the variants later. In particular, the Hudson Patrol Bomber.
I'd love to see the Beechcraft Model 18 get the Rex treatment. A beautiful aircraft with a long and varied history. To top it off, it's also fully aerobatic.
One of the recon model 12s has been found in south America and still had it's camera bay. It's being restored to fly.
Good video, glad you mentioned Sidney Cotton's aircraft but I think a full episode could be done on him. Like him letting a senior Luftwaffe person pilot his plane while he surreptitiously and simultaneously, took photos of German airfields. And he later created the Photo-Reconnaissance part of the RAF (although was later kicked out of it).
And don't forget his fashion line for pilots, the Sidcot suit.
A length of 4.3 inches ! Truly astounding. Not as small as my models though. You made me wait 17 minutes before you mentioned the criminally underrated Hudson. But I'll let you off, you got there in the end.
Congrats on the house! Been working on a flat to move into with my partner, exciting, but long (in my country delays are constant when it comes to new buildings)
You never miss Rex always good vids!
The original Executive Aircraft?
Congrats for the new place. Hopefully move goes well.
How about a video of the Cessna "wooden wonder", the UC-78/T-50 Bamboo Bomber. It was used in military training as well as the TV show, Sky King 🙂
Elegant, beautiful aircraft. Both of them.
Congrats on the house stuff. I know how excited you are about it as you used the word excited five times in one sentence 😂
What a classy line these aircrafts ! Thanks for your videos.
Always enjoy your videos, Rex.
Super job on this classic aircraft, thanks for a great documentary.
Keep 'em coming!!!
G'day Rex, Congratulations mate & I hope everything keeps going super well for you both, just listening to the happy excitement in your voice tone is very evident.
Anyway mate all the best for the future & Im looking forward to your next episode, keep the blue side up till next time. Regards, Steve.
Great stories. Thanks.
If I had the money,
this would be my ride.
Beautiful aircraft, loving your work Rex
Excellent video!
So nice I watched it twice. TY.
Thanks for an excellent presentation. I hope that you will go forward with the “Burbank Bombers” and make presentations on the models 14, 18, Ventura, and Harpoon. The last three were quite popular in post war corporate aviation, especially the conversions by Howard, Lear, and Dal Aero.
Shame you couldn't get to Flying Legends because one of the Electra Juniors actually flown by Sidney Cotton (G-AFTL, which looks like it could be the one pictured at 14:33) on his spy missions was at the show.
Luv the Electra , if I had the Millions it would be my own private Plane , the Hudson just looked pregnant ..But all the best for your move Rex , All the best.
Smaller, better, faster, harder, and our work is never over.
At first glance I thought this was a Beech model 18.
I almost started to mix an “Old Fashioned 🥃”, the way dear old dad used to...... .
One for the teenagers there... .
Thanks!
I love your Ugliest Planes series! Please, please, PLEASE do "Top 10 ugliest Russia/Soviet Planes”.
Good luck with the move. 😁
Congrats!
Thanks
A rather cool little airplane!
Whenever I see small twin engines plaes like this I think of Sky King's first plane.
Always admiring 12s and 10s this video has renewed my interest in the WWII Lockheed Hudson. I'll find or wait for Rex's video on it. Disclaimer: my top ten or twelve if not twenty favorite planes have (edit: two) wing-mounted engines, and most of them also have propellers.
btw, Rex doesn't have an 'accent', I do. Just ask him. jon from the Midwest, USA 🙂
Congratulations on the new house!🎉
2:22 "4.3 INCHES or 1.3 meters" Don't you hate it when you work hard to put out an excellent video...and you miss a few details? :) Great video, just poking fun......
Glad someone else noticed that. And it's not a decimal-point-error issue either.
The Electra Junior is, imo, one of those older planes that can still compete with today's modern prop aircraft.
Excellent.
Nice looking plane
Beautiful plane.
The Electra and Electra Jr. are two of the most beautiful looking planes ever made IMO
You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.
You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.
You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.
Will be waiting for the video about the Boston. I agree with you, way better aircraft than have been given credit for and hugely unappreciated
Wonderful
I got to ride in the dorsal turret of a Lockheed Hudson at a local air show in the 90s. I'd love if you'd do a video on it as I agree that it's a criminally underrated aircraft.
I've always wondered what B.O.A.C. stood for until today,thank you very much for the sake of my sanity!👏👏👏
Congratulations on the house!
You're a perfectly good plane! (runs off crying)
Kinda funny to watch your video as I have just seen one taking off today (LSZR)
YESSS
What a looker eh? A deco era babe ❤❤❤
The 747 sp was a similar downsizing for better performance
wait wait I gotta watch your first video on the electra
ALWAYS LOVED the Electra🥰 but eehh.. is it me but whats wrong with thr canopy at 0:28- on the 233-y the windshield just looks off or optical illu or open front windows??. and thanx for the info rich dokus you make
15:27 What is the black teardrop object on the top of the model 18? Great video as always. Also, congrats on the house!
Very informative and enjoyable. If you need info about the Hudson (or any other military airplane) in Brazilian service, I would gladly help.
That last Hudson image looked like a model with either Bristol Taurus or Hercules engines in place of the Wright R-1820's. The cowling is narrower and longer like it has twin row engines. The carbi air intake trunk looks very brittish too. Haven't read anywhere that this was developed for brittish Hudsons, would've made sense though. Edit: Sorry forgot about the Mk. VI's that used the R-1830's or the C-47 engines.
Congratulations on the house.
Good news about the house; hope it's a smooth move.
Good luck with the move.
A most aesthetically pleasing airplane.
4.3 inches?? My goodness, it's a Micro!
In all seriousness, always good when your content drops.
4.3 inches is average
@anewworld2693 That might be a bit lacking to achieve the proper lift for this girl's MTOW haha
Congratulations with your new house and the end of your LAT status!
You should really cover the Yak-15 or Yak-23 fighters
15:04 "Thar be dragons thar aboots, beware!"
Congrats on the house! 😊
Congrats on the house! 🎉
i mean, some stuff is better small... they might have a better personality...
Beechcraft Model 18 was far more successful and prolific than the Lockheed Model 12. Beech 18’s were produced until 1970 with over 9000 built, compared to only 160 Model 12’s.
#rex hanger can you do review on ww2 aircraft engines.
Omg i literally saw this plane in London on flightradar
I can never tell the difference between these and the Beech 18.
Did Lockheed ever produce a not unpleasant to the eye aircraft? As big as the c5 is, it's pretty neat looking. And then there's the c141.
Considering how Airbus made it's mark with twin engine widebody, they are making a killing with the MiniBuses
Was that an Australian "VH" registered example?
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Already watched this, but it's back on my recommendations list a day after a crash of one of the few flying examples (two dead, unfortunately). Coincidence, or The Almighty Goog doing its thing?
If I could own one cabin twin and money was no object, that would be the one.
I'll never understand why they never used DC3 size engines and made a real fast version.
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n a c New Zealand had these aircraft