I know this is a very old video, but can I please just help out all the people who watch this video. Kurlys are meant to be put on straight. The curve of the vane gives the arrow spin. Placing the kurly at an angle like this will create a parachute effect (too much spin and slows the arrow down )at long ranges. I typically shoot 90m every weekend at my club and the difference between a straight kurly and a 3 degree kurly at that distance is whether you hit the target or the arrow drops short.
Thanks NuSensei. I'd like to chip in here to the viewers, and in a new comment vs. a tired thread -- it's being argued, "Spin vanes are for straight fletching, not angled". While it's true spin vanes (and other vanes) can be, and often are, applied straight because they have an existing spin they impart, a quick search even by this mere intermediate shooter immediately reveals that very accomplished shooters apply them both straight or angled. Google's your friend. Trial and error at different distances etc. can determine what's best for you. You mightn't want to hear that from an intermediate, but that's ok -- that's from the mouths of pros. NuSensei liked an angle here.
They're meant to be helical. I presume the design of the vane means that a helical placement allows air to catch onto the curled section, imparting more spin. Regular vanes can be attached helically for a similar effect, but I don't think straight spinnies do better or worse than regular vanes.
I'm preparing a video about stabilisers at the moment. As far as I know, having a full stabiliser setup is better than none, but beyond that it comes down to preference and shooting style. Most archers use a long rod, v-bar, extender and side rods, which work fine. The rest is fine tuning with lengths, top/bottom limb dampeners, etc.. There is no optimal setup.
I would like to see slo-mo vids showing the difference in speed of rotation between plastic, feather and twisty vanes using the same arrow shafts so we can learn more about what they do, both practical and for accuracy....also effect on distance shooting as well. To keep things even for the test, the arrows should all be shot from the same bow.
Your jig does not have definite stops because you have unscrewed both of the allen screws. Screw in the top one for 3 vanes (stops), or bottom one for 4 vanes (stops), just make sure its only one and not both. :)
Spinwings, or any other mylar vanes can not be put on a helical. You can only put an offset in them, but that's not necessary. A helical mean that that vane wraps around the shaft and has the front and end straight parallel to the shaft, a little bit different that an offset vane which just goes straight but on an angle. So you need a flexible material that can take these bends, mylar doesn't offer you that.
The commentary is pretty funny... Thanks for the video! Helped a bunch (other than the whole helical thing but it seems the other comments have already poked at it a bunch of times)
I just got off chat with Lancaster. Per their experts, you don't need to offset spin wings. They are mounted straight and their shape sets up the spin.
I have found the black tape to stay on better if you wrap the other direction. (from what was done in the video) My 8 yr old daughter has started using these and loves them. Also it says not to mix the colors, I have done a lot of research and found, as long as the colors are close, your good. (don't mix black and white, but pink and blue are close on the color chart. good to go.) Thanks for the video.
Hihi love your video. I do have a question; what would be the correct name for the end tape? I've been looking for it everywhere and want to find it in a different color. Other than black. I heard there is a similar tape you can buy at any auto shop that has a variety of colors? Thanks!
Check archery stores if they stock them. Many arrow wrap companies also sell them, such as Arrow Socks (I have lime-green anchor tape in front of me from them).
A question came up in my mind, as some arrows use only two vanes/feathers, how would two helical vanes work? Would it work out well? Might help avoiding damage
Not all spinnies are glued helicaly to the shaft. Mine doesn't and if you're assemblying yours then double check reading the instruction at the back of the package.
It would be a good idea to first clean the part that you are fletching with rubbing alchohol or soak it in soap water and wipe it clean, then apply the tape and vanes. my spin vanes practically never comes off unless I rip them off or something tears it
im interested in buying a fletching jig but I don't know what is the difference between straight, left helical and right helical. could someone share some light?
What's the difference between spin wing and XS wings? Are they practically the same but just made by the different companies or do they do different things?
NUSensei okay that's what I thought, and about 10 minutes after TH-cam recommended decided to answer my question by putting your video on XS wings right in the top.
I know this is a very old video, but can I please just help out all the people who watch this video. Kurlys are meant to be put on straight. The curve of the vane gives the arrow spin.
Placing the kurly at an angle like this will create a parachute effect (too much spin and slows the arrow down )at long ranges. I typically shoot 90m every weekend at my club and the difference between a straight kurly and a 3 degree kurly at that distance is whether you hit the target or the arrow drops short.
that's correct. you only need to offset straight vanes for spin. spin wings are already made to add spin with a straight fletch. poor video!!!
so, when you shot the 3 degrees kurlys. the arrow doesn't touch the board
I fletched straight and angled. In my case my angled arrows all ended up in the grass, just passed underneath the 90m target.
+Muhammad Nabil while the straight ones all hit the 7 or better.
+Rudi van Schalkwyk thank you...
Thanks NuSensei. I'd like to chip in here to the viewers, and in a new comment vs. a tired thread -- it's being argued, "Spin vanes are for straight fletching, not angled". While it's true spin vanes (and other vanes) can be, and often are, applied straight because they have an existing spin they impart, a quick search even by this mere intermediate shooter immediately reveals that very accomplished shooters apply them both straight or angled. Google's your friend. Trial and error at different distances etc. can determine what's best for you. You mightn't want to hear that from an intermediate, but that's ok -- that's from the mouths of pros. NuSensei liked an angle here.
I've noticed my tape comes off quite a lot. I'll have to try the other way and see how that fares.
They're meant to be helical. I presume the design of the vane means that a helical placement allows air to catch onto the curled section, imparting more spin. Regular vanes can be attached helically for a similar effect, but I don't think straight spinnies do better or worse than regular vanes.
I'm preparing a video about stabilisers at the moment. As far as I know, having a full stabiliser setup is better than none, but beyond that it comes down to preference and shooting style. Most archers use a long rod, v-bar, extender and side rods, which work fine. The rest is fine tuning with lengths, top/bottom limb dampeners, etc.. There is no optimal setup.
Ah right, I was using the term incorrectly. It is indeed an offset placement. Thanks for the clarification!
I would like to see slo-mo vids showing the difference in speed of rotation between plastic, feather and twisty vanes using the same arrow shafts so we can learn more about what they do, both practical and for accuracy....also effect on distance shooting as well.
To keep things even for the test, the arrows should all be shot from the same bow.
Your jig does not have definite stops because you have unscrewed both of the allen screws. Screw in the top one for 3 vanes (stops), or bottom one for 4 vanes (stops), just make sure its only one and not both. :)
I like your sense of humour, keep up the great videos
It might be a good idea to use a small piece of glue lined heat shrink tubing instead of the black tape - it will look a lot neater :o)
Spinwings, or any other mylar vanes can not be put on a helical. You can only put an offset in them, but that's not necessary.
A helical mean that that vane wraps around the shaft and has the front and end straight parallel to the shaft, a little bit different that an offset vane which just goes straight but on an angle.
So you need a flexible material that can take these bends, mylar doesn't offer you that.
The commentary is pretty funny... Thanks for the video! Helped a bunch (other than the whole helical thing but it seems the other comments have already poked at it a bunch of times)
Need to screw in one of the two screws then the jig will stop at either 3 or 4 vanes, the little alen key bolts.
I just got off chat with Lancaster. Per their experts, you don't need to offset spin wings. They are mounted straight and their shape sets up the spin.
its not needed, but some shooters find theyre arrows group better offset, its different for everyone
I have found the black tape to stay on better if you wrap the other direction. (from what was done in the video) My 8 yr old daughter has started using these and loves them. Also it says not to mix the colors, I have done a lot of research and found, as long as the colors are close, your good. (don't mix black and white, but pink and blue are close on the color chart. good to go.) Thanks for the video.
Melinda Parsons..Why not mix the colours..Please?
glass house different thicknesses bc of the different color due
Hihi love your video. I do have a question; what would be the correct name for the end tape? I've been looking for it everywhere and want to find it in a different color. Other than black. I heard there is a similar tape you can buy at any auto shop that has a variety of colors? Thanks!
Also you have a new subscriber! You're awesome.
It's called Anchor Tape. Some archery retailers and suppliers do sell alternate coloured tape, including clear.
NUSensei Thank you! Do you have a website I could go to view these?
Check archery stores if they stock them. Many arrow wrap companies also sell them, such as Arrow Socks (I have lime-green anchor tape in front of me from them).
NUSensei Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I'll let you know how it goes. (:
Not sure about the helical idea. The Beiter jig draws straight lines for the spin wings
A question came up in my mind, as some arrows use only two vanes/feathers, how would two helical vanes work? Would it work out well? Might help avoiding damage
I've ordered both Spin Wings and EliVanes and I'm super nervous to put them on because I'm *so* clumsy
Not all spinnies are glued helicaly to the shaft. Mine doesn't and if you're assemblying yours then double check reading the instruction at the back of the package.
It would be a good idea to first clean the part that you are fletching with rubbing alchohol or soak it in soap water and wipe it clean, then apply the tape and vanes. my spin vanes practically never comes off unless I rip them off or something tears it
That double sided tape is something specific for archery or can I just get any double sided tape and cut so it fits the vane?
Do different color vanes have different weights? Thanks
im interested in buying a fletching jig but I don't know what is the difference between straight, left helical and right helical. could someone share some light?
Can they be put on straight, or do they have to be helicopter
What's the difference between spin wing and XS wings? Are they practically the same but just made by the different companies or do they do different things?
Same thing, different brand.
NUSensei okay that's what I thought, and about 10 minutes after TH-cam recommended decided to answer my question by putting your video on XS wings right in the top.
is it for recurve only or applies the same for compound bow ?
You wouldn't really want to use these for compound. While you can, regular vanes work just as well without being so fragile.
@@NUSensei thanks for the info
is it same to put slant with spin wings 100mm vanes
You are hilarious
How to put on new tape
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Helical.
This video is wrong and should not be adhered to. No idea.
All these spin wings and related spin whirl twirl things are just gimmicks to spend money on.
Yeah thats why olympians use them, dumbass.