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  • @jhoshie5440
    @jhoshie5440 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +519

    The concept of the very first Kimmy....

    • @cosmiceclipse
      @cosmiceclipse 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Indeed

    • @Chel-ix9ih
      @Chel-ix9ih 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Speaking of Kimmy revamp
      I want to turn her into zeri of lol
      With a little kit changes
      All of her 2nd skill kit and ult still the same
      Kimmy basic atk is like Beatrix's nibiru she can still move while basic atk but she doesn't get any benefit from atk speed Kimmy fire 4 bullets per atk but only her first basic atk have 100% atk effect Her skill1 is zeri ult bounce basic atk but using this skill will cost a lot of energies

    • @SharkedON
      @SharkedON 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@Chel-ix9ih You will NOT give her the chance of stealing shields.

    • @Chel-ix9ih
      @Chel-ix9ih 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@SharkedON yeah I won't give her shield kit

    • @HikaruAkitsuki
      @HikaruAkitsuki 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's what I thought.

  • @hilmanmarlak8389
    @hilmanmarlak8389 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +411

    If there's vote revamp again, pls let just Mythic Glory + player able to vote.

    • @ssjblckgohn1569
      @ssjblckgohn1569 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

      Or simply just don't add heroes who aren't required

    • @Myticalcattnip
      @Myticalcattnip 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

      Yeah because below mythic player was stupid to pick choice to revamp certain heroes

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Or just only include Trolling-Okay tier heroes to be part of that event

    • @krazygurlyt9586
      @krazygurlyt9586 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I rather they revamp tanks instead.... Some certainly need serious buffs and adjustments to rise into meta

    • @gacrux-ni7hw
      @gacrux-ni7hw 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      We all know MM will win popularity contests
      Edit: Purchasing power=voting power

  • @shinhikaru
    @shinhikaru 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +363

    Unnecessary? Yes. Is it Moonton's fault? No. Granger is already really good right now, just some small adjustments will make him enter the spotlight again. But players voted him for the Reforge Your Legend event so it is what it is. Some players still don't understand this event, they think this event is giving them a Legend Skin (which is weird if they pick Granger because he already has one) or just genuinely don't know Granger's potential and mechanic. Right now he's not suitable for Gold Lane but he's a decent Jungler as he's one of the only Junglers that has long range.

    • @JinKolmak_TaKo
      @JinKolmak_TaKo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      Some players are lazy to read just like Moonton being lazy to add some good in the game

    • @Marleigh_san
      @Marleigh_san 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      i played gold lane with him a couple of times, how is he not suitable for gold lane??

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      @@Marleigh_san his single target based kit gets easily outclassed by most other gold laners

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@Marleigh_san Ngl Granger's kit is more meant to be part of jungle, not on gold lane (unless either the MM's kit is made for gold lane or the MM has a kit that allows to be an good FLEX pick between gold lane and jungle *ehem ehem, Roger, Popol and Natan*)
      Another reason is too many uncontrolled variables such as enemy mobility so.... good luck trying to trade blows against an mobile af gold laner like Harith, Moskov, Roger, Brody or an Bruno during laning phase if you are using Granger on gold lane 💀

    • @golik133
      @golik133 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is good against squishy hero though in gold lane but against Roger and Harith it is tough

  • @walangaccount8984
    @walangaccount8984 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    They even removed his iconic last bullet crit. This should have been a new hero not a revamp.

  • @lefesh4501
    @lefesh4501 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +213

    Now we have mm aldous, just great

    • @deimosomega8470
      @deimosomega8470 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

      More like mm cecilion

    • @erenyeager7705
      @erenyeager7705 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Can't forget Chang'e

    • @horlicksft.bournvita4933
      @horlicksft.bournvita4933 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      ​@@erenyeager7705they talking bout satcks lmao

    • @fnaffandom6551
      @fnaffandom6551 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@horlicksft.bournvita4933 change old is collecting stack

    • @Jyeeve
      @Jyeeve 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But the damage doesn't increase

  • @nolmao366
    @nolmao366 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +952

    Most unnecessary revamp of all time

    • @rekkuuza9
      @rekkuuza9 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

      Agree but not moonton fault

    • @NoOne-bp4oe
      @NoOne-bp4oe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +229

      Curse those who voted Granger... HE DIDN'T NEED THE REVAMP!

    • @aidanlocklear8670
      @aidanlocklear8670 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Blame this dumbass community for voting granger when there are PLENTY of other heros that need A revamp.

    • @grainadeop4917
      @grainadeop4917 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

      It's all because of those who voted for him in the Reforge Your Legend event

    • @peeenguinne3858
      @peeenguinne3858 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

      It is unnecessary but it's the players fault. Granger won the "reforge your legend" voting session back then, so this is what we got.

  • @ThePieOfTheUnknown
    @ThePieOfTheUnknown 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +135

    Moonton try not to massacre a unique hero difficulty: Impossible

    • @isaacivanbello8098
      @isaacivanbello8098 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      its the fault of those who vote for him in reforge your legend noobies

    • @iamdarkphantom
      @iamdarkphantom 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Low rank kids voted for him. They have skill issue​@@isaacivanbello8098

    • @orange6298
      @orange6298 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      ​@@isaacivanbello8098moonton could literally just not revamp him and 90% of players who voted will not even remember. Those who do remember will most likely be the ones who don't want the revamp.
      All in all its moonton's fault for even adding Granger as an option in the first place

    • @Miya144p
      @Miya144p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@orange6298 True, like just remove that rigged event, it's not even helping, idk why tf they're accepting this when they KNOW who needs and doesn't need a revamp. (Hanzo I'm sorry)

    • @user-bp2qy9me1t
      @user-bp2qy9me1t 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      then moonton will be accused of fraudulent ​,you can just run a business without keeping your words?@@orange6298

  • @israkhk
    @israkhk 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Unnecessary, he is perfect as he is

  • @duciferaltacecz9431
    @duciferaltacecz9431 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Moontoon is just too obsessed making everyone go Mayhem mode at this point

  • @leonmystique9372
    @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    As a (Former) Granger main, this is a nerf in his kit. Here’s why:
    1. The “Red Bullet” trick has disappeared. This kit relies on 1st skill as the main source of damage. Of course the old Granger has the same disadvantage where his 1st skill was the main source of damage but he wasn’t too dependent on it as his basic attack can already burst squishies down in mid game as well. Along with this, the crit has also disappeared, forcing anyone who builds Berserker’s Fury to remove it from the full item set. (But he’s already strong without it.)
    2. The CDR to Attack Conversion Passive of Suyou is here. This makes Granger slightly stronger with more CDR. This helps with the 1st skill and Ult to have more impact since they require energy now to be casted, but the problem is his skill 2. Nowhere in the skill description say that Rhapsody (Skill 1) will decrease Rondo’s (Skill 2) CD, so expect a slightly longer delay when using it.
    3. The bullet stack similar to Cecilion is not exactly as game-changing as I thought. Granger’s Rhapsody (1st) and Death Sonata (Ult) relies on energy to use. (Unknown whether Blue Buff decreases this consuption.) This damages his early power slightly at level 1, luckily this is compensated by increasing the energy limit with kills (minion/creep/hero by +4/+8/+12 respectively.) The potential this Granger has will start to shine in Mid-game instead of when the player first buys Hunter Strike. This forces the players who main him to play him safely before the stacks reach like 60-80. The only issue is that the recent Moonton updates outright slows down development of mid-late game heroes by a significant margin to the point that Granger will feel toned down the moment his power spikes.
    4. Death Sonata (Ult) is back to what it used to be, it no longer has Lost HP-based damage. This is fair because you can cast it multiple times and have 0 CD, but there’s a problem, Rhapsody (1st skill) also gas 0 CD, so if you’re planning to go on headfirst, keep using it. Death Sonata is slightly redundant if your gameplay with Granger is on the aggressive side. But that doesn’t mean it’s useless, you can still use it when you need a safe distance to kill or damage.
    5. Build changes. Usually the Granger build goes something like this:
    Tough/Warrior/Magic Boots
    Hunter Strike
    Brute Force Breastplate
    Endless Battle
    Blade of Despair
    Malefic Roar
    (Extra Items)
    Sea Halberd
    Any Defense Item
    Endless Battle now feels useless (See Point 1), It would now be replaced by War Axe, causing a slight delay in his damage dealing capabilities.
    5. His early game capability fell off and since he fires off more bullets in Rhapsody (Skill 1), his damage scaling has fallen off the rails. You need to let every single bullet hit to make sure you deal a lot of damage, but since enemies can easily sidestep his Rhapsody, it’s not a good sign for his early game. His position as a jungler is falling off too, as bursting down creeps feels a lot slower, making him the slowest jungler EARLY GAME even with Seasoned Hunter.
    But there are good things as well:
    1. This Granger, when played in Gold Lane, is slightly better than his old version. The main issue when Granger mains play him is his lack of mobility early game. Now that Rhapsody (Skill 1) offers extra 15% movement speed when casted, you can play him slightly more aggressive to harrass lategame MMs at Level 1. (But do keep it safe.)
    2. With Rhapsody (Skill 1) and Death Sonata (Ultimate) having 0 CD, this allows Granger to stay in battle longer when a teamfight happens, along with the stacks in his passive reaching 60-80, you’ll feel like he can harrass targets for longer and he won’t feel like a usual hit-and-run assassin. Although, you’ll need to stack up in order to feel his power spike.
    3. That stack passive also allows Granger to farm faster when MID GAME arrives. This could potentially make him one of the fastest marksmen to kill creeps (next to Popol) as time accumulates. And this stack also gives more incentive to farming creeps (and minions while pushing) to push his powerspike even higher.

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Reading your whole thing only make it sounds like it’s a buff

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fos1451 It sadly reduced his early power.

    • @thatguywithoutadoubt
      @thatguywithoutadoubt 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's good in gold lane, but his stacks gained will be reduced since its 4 by minions and 8 by creeps.

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thatguywithoutadoubt Still gaining stacks but he’s always suited as the jungler
      The Gold Lane is just a 2nd option, I have no idea why Moonton removed him from the Gold Lane role.

    • @REPLAYSYSTEM69
      @REPLAYSYSTEM69 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thatguywithoutadoubtsometimes junglers doesn't take all the second wave creeps they are mostly focusing on the turtle or kills so its not that big of a problem

  • @HyakuPlays
    @HyakuPlays 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    He got tired of pistols he's gonna use a minigun

    • @n4mele_c3r63
      @n4mele_c3r63 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The content is already staring at you👀

    • @n4mele_c3r63
      @n4mele_c3r63 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Video Idea Revamp tierlist

  • @grainadeop4917
    @grainadeop4917 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Reminder to everyone that the majority of the player base is the one responsible for this revamp, honestly there's a fat chance that the players don't even know what they're voting for and just dumped their votes on the leading hero which is Granger. Moonton should probably just make the Reforge Your Legend event exclusive to mythic players only to avoid situations like this

    • @JinKolmak_TaKo
      @JinKolmak_TaKo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's pointless all the boosted player's are now on Mitic

    • @Engelion
      @Engelion 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think it's selfish to say this. You can actually blame moonton for this since it's their fault for putting heroes that dont need revamp as much in these polls.

    • @nolmao366
      @nolmao366 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Reforge your legend should be Mythical Glory+ in terms of requirements.

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In terms of hero pool on revamp-related events, I think it's best to remove Playable-META tier heroes on that event and that only leaves Trolling-Okay tier heroes on that event

    • @Cyra.43
      @Cyra.43 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@EngelionNot selfish. Low ranks shouldn’t have a saying since they are mostly kids that plays mm. Mythical glory players deserve the right to vote since they’re most likely know which hero is performing badly than the others in the voting list. Its the same thing for MPL votes, claude won against others when we have enough mm with mpl skins.
      Marksmans should be removed for the next year votes. They always win no matter the situation.

  • @emeemekineme
    @emeemekineme 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Each kill will add up the energy for his gun and cannon. I would love to play him as a Marksman if this update would be released soon

    • @bot7845
      @bot7845 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Sniper

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      We got Oheb as the Filipino Sniper, Vanix and Adammir as the Singaporean Snipers and now, Granger the next Moniyan Sniper after Lesley 💀

    • @scarymonster5541
      @scarymonster5541 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He gonna get banned after all

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@scarymonster5541 He’s not ban-worthy. His damage got slightly nuked.

  • @Cicillia.
    @Cicillia. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    The beat is soo good wth

    • @aryanburnwal2371
      @aryanburnwal2371 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sounds like war drums

    • @runic6452
      @runic6452 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same beat with rap part of the filipino song lord patawad LMAOOOOO i dunno i just heard the song when the gun beat came in xD

  • @jrdoge1503
    @jrdoge1503 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Devs: so let's not focus on balancing the game and revamp granger, let's give him infinite money
    Granger: *buys [REDACTED] amounts of ammo*

    • @tan3169
      @tan3169 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Its not even montoon's fault for revamping granger, granger won forge your hero event where majority of players voted him, unnecessary revamping if i have to say so.

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Welp, sounds like Sasa giving Moonton an massive middle finger due to what they have done to his main 😆

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      FINALLY AFTER A LONG TIME OF REVAMPING PHOVEUS THEY DECIDED TO REVAMP HIM-
      And it’s a nerf. What a surprise.

  • @JinKolmak_TaKo
    @JinKolmak_TaKo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    Whoever continue to tell this is unnecessary and why they Revamp him I REMIND YOU IT'S BEEN YOUR FAULT IF GRANGER WON THE REFORGE AND YOUR FAULT FOR ALLOWING IT! Instead of voting someone who needed the most yall choosed him and it could been far worse if the winner was Aamon A HERO WHO WAS RELEASED IN 2022.

    • @user-aeb87825
      @user-aeb87825 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Its basically a popularity vote. Idk why they do it with revamp, I'd understand if the voting is for skins.

    • @ssjblckgohn1569
      @ssjblckgohn1569 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But when did the reforge your legends event happen? 🥲

    • @alemansprototypeguy
      @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Aamon was released in 2021 and it was already the favorite assassin of Hadess and Tienzy, aka those two Aamon mains that are expected to be dark horses on MSC 2024

    • @rico6466
      @rico6466 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      you can never outnumber noobies :/
      also, people that are against granger revamp most definitely didn't vote for him.

    • @Marleigh_san
      @Marleigh_san 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      then why did that Blind guy got reforged/revamped? unless he was a top vote, it was also unnecessary.
      plus i would had love for them to make aamon worse considering how concerning the revamps we are getting.
      no one can control the crowd unless its moonton itself.

  • @kareemswan2062
    @kareemswan2062 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Kaja is growing mushrooms in the corner

    • @quibble9003
      @quibble9003 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      kaja is picked a lot wtf u talking abt

    • @zerom4143
      @zerom4143 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@quibble9003no it's not!! Wtf are you talking about. I haven't seen anyone use kaja for this past season or any other season.

    • @quibble9003
      @quibble9003 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zerom4143 bcs ure an epic, he is bad in epic. but he's doing well in pro and high rank. fleeting time change + assassins running around are also good for kaja.

    • @zerom4143
      @zerom4143 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@quibble9003 bro, I've been to mythic rank and i haven't seen anyone use kaja except me though because his my main hero but other than that no one using that hero.

    • @quibble9003
      @quibble9003 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zerom4143 bro he's a tournament hero idk what to tell you. the hero isnt bad or niche.

  • @Pollux7072
    @Pollux7072 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    into the ban section he goes

    • @Maxwelium
      @Maxwelium 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I jiggled after reading this

    • @KixverzEditz
      @KixverzEditz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro's gonna rot in there for a whole season until they do some (nerfs) adjustments

    • @lenaotaku5905
      @lenaotaku5905 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Near Yin

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He’s not even overpowered with this adjustment.

    • @REPLAYSYSTEM69
      @REPLAYSYSTEM69 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@leonmystique9372 yes he is using sky piercer on him is easy now this revamp is a tank killer

  • @Afrezzy
    @Afrezzy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

    Cyclops in the corner waiting for his turn to get a revamp: this is fine

    • @Engelion
      @Engelion 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      That's just his life now because he's just not as advertisable as the other anime looking uwu ass human heroes.

    • @user-zj4gm6qm7k
      @user-zj4gm6qm7k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Engelion ikr😭 i feel bad for my baby cyclops☹️❤

    • @CheshireF
      @CheshireF 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      why would he need a revamp? hes perfect as he is, just some adjustment or big buff and hes back to meta (ive been playing Cyclops and i can say hes pretty good, hes just getting overshadowed by other mages like Odette, Vexana, and Aurora).

    • @santanughosh3519
      @santanughosh3519 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@CheshireFmodel revamp bro his model is way too old

    • @user-zj4gm6qm7k
      @user-zj4gm6qm7k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CheshireF ikr, he just need buffs, that's it, nothing less (I'm a cyclops main)

  • @SPHINXY
    @SPHINXY 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Aldous watching and crying in the corner.... 😂

  • @blazkier8225
    @blazkier8225 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The only revamp that he needs in his leg animation

  • @kurukuru4120
    @kurukuru4120 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Not even mayhem granger is this cracked.

    • @Gokuknows
      @Gokuknows 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mayhem Granger casually destroying mayhem Cyclops in a point blank range.
      Never as cracked as mayhem Joy though

    • @f.hegerfeldt128
      @f.hegerfeldt128 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mayhem joy is literally a hacker

  • @herdiansyah9982
    @herdiansyah9982 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The only thing that his revamp really needs is the dynamic animation of his step. Depending on where the analog headed. That's it.

  • @qaissyahiranosman7168
    @qaissyahiranosman7168 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    We can make a whole beat with this revamp💀

  • @dennisdacillo6516
    @dennisdacillo6516 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Bullets to Energy from Granger. The fact they give him CD reduction to increase atk like the first Souyu. And Lolita really would gladly take all those bullets. This adjustment is one thing I want Lunox to have but understanding the balance.

    • @heybro7341
      @heybro7341 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dennisdacillo6516 lol just ban lolita 💀

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heybro7341 lol just sidestep her.

    • @user-aeb87825
      @user-aeb87825 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Literally just wait for her second to run out. Plus not a lot of players even use Lolita in my country. Not even seen her once this season.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow, so you would want this changes for lunox? But it's a problem when it's Granger? Ok Hypocrites.
      Lunox got free revamp (passive orb reduction). Alucard got free revamp(50% cd 2nd and 1st skill after ult). Vale got free revamp (combining all his skills). Natalia got free revamp (for the greater or worse). Helcurt got free revamp (the cost of his silent but swapped with terrify and speed movement faster cd 1st and hp recovery). Aurora got free revamp (new skill sets). Phoveus got free revamp (new skill sets). But if it's Granger the start of Reforge Your Legend now there is a problem? Like y'all are Hypocrites.

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gwanetayla7683 Those that you mentioned for Alucard aren’t revamps, more like just adjustments.

  • @Faethy.
    @Faethy. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They take out what makes him special. The final bullet burst damage really suits his character so well. A musician who loves perfection and the crescendo of his performance, which is yes, his 5th bullet and his 3rd ult. I know this would be great for him to thrive in the meta, but still...

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yapper much?
      There is nothing special about the current Granger

    • @keiji_Shimizu
      @keiji_Shimizu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A musician who loves perfection.... So basically jhin

    • @ahmad-tijanimuftau7169
      @ahmad-tijanimuftau7169 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@gwanetayla7683 exactly

  • @arcgames_
    @arcgames_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let's see who has the better gun skills
    - HOK Ad

  • @poro5064
    @poro5064 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    He switched from a revolver to an UZI

  • @qlark9699
    @qlark9699 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    What in monstrosity is this Moonton?

    • @tiwitiwi6202
      @tiwitiwi6202 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not moonton's fault, people voted for it

  • @IAARPOTI
    @IAARPOTI 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Granger : Pew Pew Pew Pew.

  • @mmiicasa
    @mmiicasa 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    that's the passive mark of the old kimmy as i remember

  • @jabilli7420
    @jabilli7420 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    as a granger main i will definitely miss the red bullet combo😢😢

  • @Arethusa01
    @Arethusa01 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My issue here is that the ability to permanently increase Maximum Energy, kind of defeats the purpose of using Energy in the first place.
    Remember, Energy is used to punish ability spam throughout the whole game. Maybe it became loosen as time goes on, but it can't be spammed like crazy. The ability to increase Maximum Energy however, pretty much allows him to spam his abilities like crazy in the late game.

    • @alyassuppaleridhil7892
      @alyassuppaleridhil7892 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There should have been a stack limit, and hope there is.

    • @KixverzEditz
      @KixverzEditz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@alyassuppaleridhil7892 if that adjustment is not implemented, off to the banning section he goes

    • @Kai_03000
      @Kai_03000 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I guess that's the thing
      He is a late game hero now, he is a marksman after all

    • @Ollie-ld3fe
      @Ollie-ld3fe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Kai_03000 no, because that would beat the purpose of the mechanics of other heroes who use energy.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Again you are just wrong
      The energy use is the amount of times he can cast the skill it's never been about punishing him for using his skills. Granger lost his early game for a late game. If you pay attention his energy it does in fact reduce when the skill is in motion which is different from Hayabusa or Lesley. Their energy use is a 1 time thing for each time they cast a skill but not for its duration.
      Cecilion permanently increases his Damage thanks to the stacks same for Aldous. But Granger is the opposite of those two so you can't say he can't be this way when literally any hero with stacks has their damage permanently increased instead of energy or mana. Don't single out my boy, he is special

  • @aurostice1168
    @aurostice1168 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Granger: Hey Yi Sun Shin
    Look what I can do!

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I forgot this hero exists😂😂😂

  • @itsyaboidenjiatitagain5404
    @itsyaboidenjiatitagain5404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    3 lords, perma buffs from turtle, and now this.
    beautiful

    • @CheshireF
      @CheshireF 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the 3 lord and perma buff from turtle are all experimentals, its depends on the players if they like it or not, if they dont like it then moonton wont release it

    • @ant1cool
      @ant1cool 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CheshireFwho tf would like this ish? Decadence of players, many mfs joining and ruining mlb

  • @yessnolimit3443
    @yessnolimit3443 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hope and at least they revamp his collector

  • @fruityfluid
    @fruityfluid 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    they made him into spammable kimmy

  • @EGSoto
    @EGSoto 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    HOK Marco Polo is that you? 😂

    • @navis_6383
      @navis_6383 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Get him a Claude ulti and that's Marco

    • @x3nomelee528
      @x3nomelee528 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol

    • @kandaherochannel8340
      @kandaherochannel8340 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      New player in moba😂

    • @yuijin1770
      @yuijin1770 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Marco Polo is literally the first release clint with Claude ulti, Granger first and second and Clint appearance

    • @fahriagung-_.
      @fahriagung-_. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh yeah.. truee

  • @alemansprototypeguy
    @alemansprototypeguy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Damn Caprice really transitioned into an machine pistol instead of a semi-auto pistol

    • @KixverzEditz
      @KixverzEditz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fr, gonna miss that passive

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's the old passive
      Now it's Capriccio

  • @arizuki3310
    @arizuki3310 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This Revamp Granger Energy Mechanic Kinda Reminds me of Kimmy when she's First released in the advance server and not yet released in the original server

  • @fahriagung-_.
    @fahriagung-_. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Gone is the damage bonus for lost hp in the ultimate :[

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Before his ult used to scale with item then they nerfed it to energy missing hp, I don't see this as a nerf but as a throw back in 2020

  • @ravenousstrike012
    @ravenousstrike012 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Damn revamped granger feels like kimmy, but faster bullet projectiles on 1st and in a straight line. Welcome to the banning section🎉!

  • @user-mv1oq1bg2b
    @user-mv1oq1bg2b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the stack-type of heroes, items even recent permanent turtle buff intended to - poor gets poorer, rich gets richer ! kind of non-fair play!

  • @winter5337
    @winter5337 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *“as we stand in golden light”* ahh revamp

  • @srikanthbhaskar3166
    @srikanthbhaskar3166 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Time for Lolita🤩

    • @dragnasylvarion8854
      @dragnasylvarion8854 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey buddy
      You're thinking the same thing as me
      I'd love to take a chance to make Granger kill himself

  • @ThwinHanLinn
    @ThwinHanLinn 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lolita:🤫

  • @xanderr.doctolero2531
    @xanderr.doctolero2531 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i mean i love the concept of the current granger but dam i want to use this thing, i hope they just put it in a new hero

  • @viniciusbarbosa2468
    @viniciusbarbosa2468 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can sense a beautiful song.

  • @trollmen0768
    @trollmen0768 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally my spell vamp granger is back, hopefully. I used to use granger with blood lust axe back when he just got introduced.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Blood lust axe got removed

    • @trollmen0768
      @trollmen0768 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gwanetayla7683 "used to" when granger just arrived at land of dawn

    • @trollmen0768
      @trollmen0768 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gwanetayla7683 I'm talking about the old version when granger just came out

  • @keanmiguelmacuha9094
    @keanmiguelmacuha9094 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I kinda like the old granger where you have to be more strategic with his sixth bullet passive, the low cd dash with damage buff and the no mana cost skills. The new one feels like a modern clint knockoff and the type of hero with annoying spammable skills.

  • @dragnasylvarion8854
    @dragnasylvarion8854 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Now this one is "i don't mind at all"
    Not only that Granger wìlĺ be a viable option for gold lane
    But for me as a Lolita player, a cheeky kill

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Again I will say this, I'd love to see as many Lolitas as possible. Let's have a showdown

  • @rencelen5186
    @rencelen5186 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is straight up broken he's already a monster in terms of damage

  • @kazutokirigaya8025
    @kazutokirigaya8025 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a granger main, I kinda like it in my opinion making him harder to play but atleast there's a new thrill in it cause u can probably ult while s1 is still casting

  • @GiorgioGiovanna
    @GiorgioGiovanna 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think Granger is fine as he is. There are other heroes in need of revamp or visual update

    • @drakeniko1298
      @drakeniko1298 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not from the moonton idea its from a voting event where the player votes the hero that "supposed needed" to revamp but those noobies mf votes this dude instead [let just say 20% moonton fault cuz why granger been there on one of voting heroes from 1st place its unnecessary just buff him and he already good also 80% from "noob" players that pick him cuz "IdK hOw To UsE hIm AnD hE sO hard" ahh moment like bro there's other heroes chilin [aside phoveus who actually forgotten one]

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@drakeniko1298And you are one of those players that says, "Oh society says this, we should all lean this way Phoveus revamp will be released in 15 days. Too many heroes got free revamp, and yet the Winner of Reforge Your Legend is getting hate bc it's not your choice, hero.
      Just don't play him simple. The amount that voted for him they did it for a reason, and if you wanna give them a voice such as "idk how to play him, he is hard," those are your exact words. Same for Lunox, she got free revamp (passive big change 1 orb only now), but she didn't need that change, so why was she revamped? Same for Wanwan every player was happy with the 3 weakness. And both of this herpes didn't need that change but we still got it, so Why are you butthurt the fact another hero that was fine got better? You didn't say shxt to wanwan nor lunox WHAT A HYPOCRITES

    • @AniqNabilidlan
      @AniqNabilidlan 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gwanetayla7683 you're tellin to that dude just because heroes like granger/wan2 and etc is hard to use those player who wanted them [lets just say if one day they get revamp] get revamp to ez to use tho? I thought that's how moba games work either hardworking/experience to use or just skillfully or etc...
      Let alone granger already good mechanics tho [aside lunox and wan2 or etc heroes] but got unnecessary revamp

  • @Diam.ndBlock
    @Diam.ndBlock 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1st skill sound goes hard

  • @HeartbeatCN
    @HeartbeatCN 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Moonton got mad Honor of Kings mocked Granger in that Ad.

  • @mogberry2139
    @mogberry2139 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would really miss seeing that last critical bullet of his..

  • @Whattry
    @Whattry 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's better if his ultimate are the only energy

  • @miyamuraizumi3790
    @miyamuraizumi3790 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    dammmm, thats so coool

  • @astraldoggo3982
    @astraldoggo3982 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lolita mains are happy about this 😊

    • @heybro7341
      @heybro7341 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol Granger can build tank iteam if he gets unlimited skill spam and everyone doesn't pick lolita 💀

  • @ralphmaximo7799
    @ralphmaximo7799 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's great but....another rework of skin effects coz the 1st skill and ults last hits had different effects....I wonder if they remove that effect

  • @deferente2219
    @deferente2219 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Give his ultimate and red energy an ap scalling, it would be different and cool, as long it doesn't affect the type of damage or nerf the ad dmg, like BANE

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately, that would cause a stir in his build and make the ult even more redundant since people either use it as an initiating skill or a finishing skill.

  • @kindplanet1
    @kindplanet1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    MLBB should only let a certain group of players to vote. Account active for over a year, Highest rank Mythic, and a verified Moonton account.

  • @abidinmuhayan9376
    @abidinmuhayan9376 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why i feel its same with Marco Polo from HOK especially the 1st skill? If this happen, top ban and top pick candidate for sure just like Marco Polo in HOK

    • @leonmystique9372
      @leonmystique9372 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s not exactly overpowered since this makes Granger a mid-late game hero. And current adjustments in Advanced Server makes late game hero less potent so this is slightly underpowered.

  • @Endersoul-tx1of
    @Endersoul-tx1of 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Guess On Hit Granger is out now, if I'm assuming that the boosted basic attack damage from the dash is removed.

  • @idk-tf8ub
    @idk-tf8ub 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they're going for so many unlimited things right now

  • @SLAYER-mp9md
    @SLAYER-mp9md 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great hes the "past kimmy" now

    • @28105mikey
      @28105mikey 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Past Kimmy is scary

  • @demonslayer4951
    @demonslayer4951 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very OP😱😱

  • @Notfenfen
    @Notfenfen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only reason this is happening.
    People could not read they thought it was a skin.

  • @impulsesmom4513
    @impulsesmom4513 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marco Polo and Clint has been real quiet since this drop😆

  • @omegasteve8485
    @omegasteve8485 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im loving the ultimate but the first skill should have a fixed amount of energy and the damage should be balanced.
    The energy should scale with something like physical penetration
    Then the damage should be decreased

    • @Engelion
      @Engelion 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the damage is balanced. You can see he's shooting these bullets to level 1 layla and zilong and the damage still seems low.

  • @PaperBoat-oz3hb
    @PaperBoat-oz3hb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Overkill

  • @geoelement6254
    @geoelement6254 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's strong but for me it's weird on granger, I know they already have this kind of passive on the old kimmy but they could just use this on other hero that they will make in the future instead of revamped granger because the bullet concept on granger is already good

    • @AniqNabilidlan
      @AniqNabilidlan 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It feels like a claude ult that is being used by old clint [i think granger s1 is the same as well from old clints]

  • @Failureman-ul8nc
    @Failureman-ul8nc 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its gonna be almost impossible approaching him now

  • @ImYahuda
    @ImYahuda 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is atrocious, PERFECT! What a great way to tip off the balance again. Although it’s never balanced. They nerfed the Tank Meta and now it’s Assassin meta and it’s doing way too good again

  • @user-cx5js8kt1c
    @user-cx5js8kt1c 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    His CV sounds like he's edging "Behold my crEsEndO"

  • @gerrardpetersontjahyono6553
    @gerrardpetersontjahyono6553 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Current granger: one shots squisies
    Revamped granger: haha gun go brrrrr

  • @ZenithSpecter
    @ZenithSpecter 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    he will be the fastest jungler/gold laner ever

  • @sleepinsaint1106
    @sleepinsaint1106 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Granger mains! We're dead, no more one shot

    • @merchant69420
      @merchant69420 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hepta + endless B+ Red Bullet 👋😭

  • @xynt8195
    @xynt8195 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Someone broke his heart this time 😔

  • @gamezr4losers
    @gamezr4losers 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oh this doesn't seem broken at all

  • @Jackington208
    @Jackington208 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ngl it sounds good

  • @christiannuque2810
    @christiannuque2810 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play granger main i use to one shot mm and mage using full damage build in late game i think its balanced now

  • @Sezer2024
    @Sezer2024 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Hororo chan is Granger Revamp Spell Vamp Scary?💀

  • @Popcorn-gt5lr
    @Popcorn-gt5lr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah yes this game is just full of stacking now

  • @WHAT_WHO_ARE_YOU
    @WHAT_WHO_ARE_YOU 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine if his energy can regen in the fountain. Granger can just spam his ult to def the base

  • @JanmuelJohnRasonabe
    @JanmuelJohnRasonabe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only mythic+ should only be able to vote

  • @raymond3409
    @raymond3409 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So the nerf for Exorcist skin, because his last bullet on first skill, the effect is like spirit pushed out from enemy, gone now

  • @Kingchef9266
    @Kingchef9266 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Current granger is perfect

  • @SKYCENZO
    @SKYCENZO 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My ideas while keep the hero uniqueness. What u think?
    Passive :
    Granger can fill his gun with up to 6 bullets at a time. Marked enemy up to 12 times.
    Each marked decreased enemy physical defense by 7%.
    If the marked target HP is below 30% granger gain movement speed by 20% and vison for 3s.
    After 12 successful consecutive shot enemy hero will get stunt for 0.5s and lost 2% hp for every shot enemy hero received after.
    Gain 7 stacks after eliminating enemy.
    Stack generate rate = 5 stacks per 10 seconds.
    Skill 1 :
    Granger fills his gun with all bullets and shoots them forward, each bullet dealing 35(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage (90 more damage against creeps).
    In this skill Granger is immune to airborne effects and gain 10% damage reduction.
    Skill 2 :
    Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times,
    Granger damage increase by 10% for 5s
    Each time "Rhapsody" hits an enemy hero, the CD of this skill will be reduced by 0.5s.
    Ultimate : 15s
    Granger open his violin case and load explosive bullets inside his guns. And gain 100 additional stacks while it decay.
    It last for 10s. Unlock buffed skill 1 and buffed skill 2 when use.
    Buffed skill 1 : CD = 1s / consume stacks
    Granger fills his gun with explosive and shoots them forward the range expand by 50% each bullet dealing 120(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage ( shoot through creeps and minions )
    The radius of the explosion is 2tiles.
    Each shot take 15 stacks.
    Max stack can be up to 9999 stacks.
    Buffed skill 2 : CD : 4 / consume stacks
    Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times,
    Granger damage increase by 20% for 5s

  • @syndrmeamv4593
    @syndrmeamv4593 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welp, now I guess buying his lightborn skin was not bad at all. I don't like jungling so if he's going to be more viable for gold lane with this rework, might as well spend time using him in gold :P

  • @somerandomperson6066
    @somerandomperson6066 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kimmy: yeh koi mazak chal raha hai

  • @claudiosigit4565
    @claudiosigit4565 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good bye Burts granger.
    Welcome DPS granger

  • @RH_One
    @RH_One 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only one thing as granger main player Just give his 1st skill cannot be cancelled with cc like old granger
    Except supress

  • @waaaveee
    @waaaveee 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i really hope the next hero revamp is rafaela tbh they really need to change her passive and ultimate to become aoe like a circle not a straight line

  • @nojoke6098
    @nojoke6098 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well... that fixes his problems with missing :V

  • @michaelmata6966
    @michaelmata6966 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Granger weapon
    Before revamp: Handgun
    After revamp: UZI

  • @lechcherarchson5444
    @lechcherarchson5444 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "A monster will be return in mid/late game with full tank items or savage machine gun with full damage and can go 5 lanes not only jungle 🌚🌚🌚" -A person was tested in beta

  • @mknthnm
    @mknthnm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    granger mains will hate this

  • @X4v_
    @X4v_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so granger gon be with the stack family like aldous and cecilion?