one other tip, at 1:17 you CAN do the "leader fetch" in the LIGHT, using a "leader retriever", NOT a breed of dog, but a device like a ruler, but with three tongues which stick out, one short, two long, like a dogs (while panting), the short tongue goes into the gap, the first long tongue (marked 1 or A on the slider on the side), inserts, then you rotate the spool backwards until you hear the tongue and film leader pass each other inside ( a click), then advance tongue 2 or B this vices the film, then hold the can and pull the complete retriever back... hey presto, a leader emerges from the felt, job done!
We're here to help! It's easy to get caught up in the more technical and advanced parts of film, that sometimes the basics get overlooked. We're making these videos to help with that! ❤️
This is great. I used nikkor and Patterson reels many, many, years ago. One thought from experience. Regarding 120 film, be very careful to slowly remove the tape from the end of the film and paper, otherwise you can generate a lovely blue line of static electricity that might do unusual wonders to some your negatives.
You can definitely load two rolls of 120 on Paterson and AP reels. Just push the first roll all the way to the center of the reel until it stops then load the second roll on until the tail just goes in the groove and stop.
Thankyou for showing 4x5" options :-) as not many do, or at least together with the other formats in this kind of discussion. with the SP445 there is another method to load the film, that is simmilar to Grafmatic holders, you know, the 6 shot holders with the separate septums; for these they say, curl the film, add it to the septum and let go, it snaps flat, and falls into the grooves, this not being the whole distance of the septum, then Push the film the rest of the way home.
The Paterson reels don’t have a way to prevent a second roll of 120 film from overlapping onto the first roll and causing uneven development. The Duo clips are one of the many reasons why the Jobo tank system rocks!
Hello, Ive been using an AP Compact developing tank. I have loaded Ilford and Fomapan film successfully. I recently tried a Kodak Tmax film and for the first time I had problems loading it onto the processing reel. One thing that I noticed was that the Kodak film was thicker than the Ilford and Fomapan. So, I was wondering if this is a general problem with Kodak films? Are they suitable for processing in the AP Compact tank?
Hey, I'm still new to film photography but is the film supposed to look purple even though I had taken some pictures? I thought film was supposed to have small little pictures?
Hey! I have a question about winding 35mm film to a plastic spool. I experienced this problem twice only on one specific film (Kodak ColorPlus 200). I don't know exactly why it happens but when I take out my film from my camera and prepare it for the darkroom I notice that from the tip to 1/3 of the film is too straight which caused some problems. When the film is halfway wound, I suddenly feel that the film is jammed in the spool. I also felt that the film was stuck at the entrance. I tried cleaning the spool over and over again but that didn't work. Is it caused by the temperature? (avg. -2°C) to straighten? Or is it caused by the camera (Yashica FX-3)? Because it winds the film in the opposite direction when loading.
I don't even use mine for 120 but I wanted to see how it worked. So I just kept trying many times until it eventually worked. (Oh and after doing it a few times it got a *lot* easier, it was just really stuck from the factory.)
Your 35mm technique passes the film through the cassette’s felt light trap a third time. I avoid this by opening the cassette with a can opener and pulling the film spool (with the film attached) out as a unit, and then loading it on the reel.
Hey there! We actually made a video showing how to use a leader retriever as well! You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/b9EDFwsceeM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J4Tyj0QkN-QUKhks
Guys, I truly cannot understand how you root for Paterson (unless you are British, then that's clear) when JOBO _30 years ago_ designed a system that has not been *bested* in any way. Not affiliated to jobo in any way. Using Cs41 and Df96 (when time demands). Send liquid Cs41 to Mexico. Someone will be interested in distributing them.
To everybody getting into developing, I have one great bit of advice... NEVER GET THE METAL TANKS!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE AGONY! They're all we have in our darkroom photography class and AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH... They're a pain to work with even if you're good with them, and my last two rolls came out with development marks. Admittedly, the compact size is nice, but trust me, it's not worth it. I'm going to buy a jobo tank and bring it to class because I am SICK of using the metal reels. Also you have to pour at an angle otherwise you just dribble chemicals everywhere because air isn't flowing out enough if you pour straight on.
I can’t stand the Paterson reels, I just started processing at home and oh god haha, in a bag when you can’t keep the film super straight it’s reallllly not fun, I’m a bit surprised this is the state of the art mechanism
one other tip, at 1:17 you CAN do the "leader fetch" in the LIGHT, using a "leader retriever", NOT a breed of dog, but a device like a ruler, but with three tongues which stick out, one short, two long, like a dogs (while panting), the short tongue goes into the gap, the first long tongue (marked 1 or A on the slider on the side), inserts, then you rotate the spool backwards until you hear the tongue and film leader pass each other inside ( a click), then advance tongue 2 or B this vices the film, then hold the can and pull the complete retriever back... hey presto, a leader emerges from the felt, job done!
This was great. When it comes to developing film, you can't get too basic for me.
We're here to help! It's easy to get caught up in the more technical and advanced parts of film, that sometimes the basics get overlooked. We're making these videos to help with that! ❤️
So easy done and with a smile like yours...all in daylight
This is great. I used nikkor and Patterson reels many, many, years ago. One thought from experience. Regarding 120 film, be very careful to slowly remove the tape from the end of the film and paper, otherwise you can generate a lovely blue line of static electricity that might do unusual wonders to some your negatives.
I found a nikkor metal tank recently but it doesnt have a lit so im not sure ho to agitate the chemicals
Glad your back. Almost forgot about this channel. Deleting or hiding the years of content that was on here is a mistake.
You should have done a section that shows you struggling to load the film onto the reel in a dark bag.
For 127 & 120, the AP reels are the only way to go!
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Thank you for making this video!!!!!
We love you too!!
First time I loaded film inside a bag it felt like I was defusing a bomb 😂
Me too. I was sweating bullets.
And now look at you! You can do it with your eyes closed! (Right? ...RIGHT?!?)
I was sweating so bad
Thank you for such an informative and inspirational video. Now I know how to load my 120 film into my Paterson developing tank. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Glad it was helpful!
You can definitely load two rolls of 120 on Paterson and AP reels. Just push the first roll all the way to the center of the reel until it stops then load the second roll on until the tail just goes in the groove and stop.
I just subscribed and ‘Liked’ this video! 🎉
Thankyou for showing 4x5" options :-) as not many do, or at least together with the other formats in this kind of discussion.
with the SP445 there is another method to load the film, that is simmilar to Grafmatic holders, you know, the 6 shot holders with the separate septums; for these they say, curl the film, add it to the septum and let go, it snaps flat, and falls into the grooves, this not being the whole distance of the septum, then Push the film the rest of the way home.
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I know you are, but what am I?
What is that "RED Plastic thing" on the side of the 'reel'? Thank you in advance.
I have a jobo 16/35... how to load 16mm? I'm shooting Minolta 16 film.
Linus looks like every dubstep producer from 2011 to 2014
what about finger printing on the beginning and end?
do we need two reels in the gojo if we’re just developing one roll? bc it only comes with one reel.
I can also load 2 rolls of 120 in the Paterson tank right? Thanks for the video!
The Paterson reels don’t have a way to prevent a second roll of 120 film from overlapping onto the first roll and causing uneven development. The Duo clips are one of the many reasons why the Jobo tank system rocks!
Hello, Ive been using an AP Compact developing tank. I have loaded Ilford and Fomapan film successfully. I recently tried a Kodak Tmax film and for the first time I had problems loading it onto the processing reel. One thing that I noticed was that the Kodak film was thicker than the Ilford and Fomapan. So, I was wondering if this is a general problem with Kodak films? Are they suitable for processing in the AP Compact tank?
Hey, I'm still new to film photography but is the film supposed to look purple even though I had taken some pictures? I thought film was supposed to have small little pictures?
a film retriever is defenitley the best choice for 35mm
every time i try to load my film onto the patterson spool, it spits it right back off of it. what am i doing wrong
Does it matter which direction the film is facing?
Hey! I have a question about winding 35mm film to a plastic spool.
I experienced this problem twice only on one specific film (Kodak ColorPlus 200). I don't know exactly why it happens but when I take out my film from my camera and prepare it for the darkroom I notice that from the tip to 1/3 of the film is too straight which caused some problems. When the film is halfway wound, I suddenly feel that the film is jammed in the spool. I also felt that the film was stuck at the entrance. I tried cleaning the spool over and over again but that didn't work. Is it caused by the temperature? (avg. -2°C) to straighten? Or is it caused by the camera (Yashica FX-3)? Because it winds the film in the opposite direction when loading.
How do you unlock the Paterson reel to change to 120? I turn it opposite but feels like I'll break it
I don't even use mine for 120 but I wanted to see how it worked. So I just kept trying many times until it eventually worked. (Oh and after doing it a few times it got a *lot* easier, it was just really stuck from the factory.)
Your 35mm technique passes the film through the cassette’s felt light trap a third time. I avoid this by opening the cassette with a can opener and pulling the film spool (with the film attached) out as a unit, and then loading it on the reel.
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Great video. But not everyone has a film canaster opener. Teach them how to fish that lead out. Bad research from top shooters
Hey there! We actually made a video showing how to use a leader retriever as well! You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/b9EDFwsceeM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J4Tyj0QkN-QUKhks
The process that works best for me is sending the film to a lab😆
Haha well we love labs too!
Guys, I truly cannot understand how you root for Paterson (unless you are British, then that's clear) when JOBO _30 years ago_ designed a system that has not been *bested* in any way.
Not affiliated to jobo in any way. Using Cs41 and Df96 (when time demands).
Send liquid Cs41 to Mexico. Someone will be interested in distributing them.
I don't like the fact that the jobo reels don't auto feed the film..I have to touch my film way more than expected 😒
To everybody getting into developing, I have one great bit of advice...
NEVER GET THE METAL TANKS!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE AGONY!
They're all we have in our darkroom photography class and AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHH... They're a pain to work with even if you're good with them, and my last two rolls came out with development marks.
Admittedly, the compact size is nice, but trust me, it's not worth it. I'm going to buy a jobo tank and bring it to class because I am SICK of using the metal reels.
Also you have to pour at an angle otherwise you just dribble chemicals everywhere because air isn't flowing out enough if you pour straight on.
I can’t stand the Paterson reels, I just started processing at home and oh god haha, in a bag when you can’t keep the film super straight it’s reallllly not fun, I’m a bit surprised this is the state of the art mechanism
A great vid trashed by excessive TH-cam advertising.