The Two Paths to Enlightenment (Which are you on?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- I hope this video helps you understand two of the most fundamental ways one can traverse the spiritual path towards what is often called enlightenment, nirvana, moksha and so forth. Enjoy
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0:00 Intro
0:24 Enlightenment Explained
1:38 The Fiery Way
4:22 The Watery Way
7:43 Conclusion
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In other words, the Fiery way is Vairagya (Detachment ~Shivattwa) and Water way is engaging in the play of Mahamaya (Shakti) knowing it's all Her illusion, being conscious yet being involved in her play.
Isn't Detachment still an attachment?
@@quantessenz Detachment is realising nothing owns you. You exert control over your own mind, body and emotions. Indulging in things but remaining detached is the ultimate goal.
I started my own spiritual path working on the assumption that I had to meditate more, pray more, self isolate more, become a monk. That eventually flew apart in my face. I gave in to perceived failure and began to focus on interpersonal relations. I began working out instead of my typical meditations. The difference in happiness and success was night and day. Now a few steps into it, this video pops up. Thank you! Now I better know the direction I'm on.
I have had a similar experience! I feel like the "fiery" way is far more "advertised" than the "watery" way, so many people think that in order to be spiritual you have to meditate and get rid of your ego. But eventually I was like screw that and just dove into what really mattered to me, and like you the difference is night and day
Switching. I went the shiva path. This is how I called it. I burnt all internalised personas down. Inside me and I detached from all feelings from people around me. Just to one other human not. Now she stopped contact. I am switching now into Water way, shakti path. It was not easy to live the fire way. When all is burnt down I was almost ready to leave my body. And I am happy that I met those one human, she helped me staying here. Now I am back "alive". I just wished she would be in my life. Now I have to respect her wish. Before I couldn't, I had to stay attached to her: synonym for life. Namaste
I find myself on the watery path. When I forget for a few hours that Oneness is all that Is, I call it a cat nap. When I wake back up and step back into awareness - I always have unconditional Love for mySelf and gratitude for my journey. Love to you all 🙏🥰
You can be moved by both paths in a life. That is my experience. Began very young as fire to deconstruct the false identification, began integrating as water ten years ago. 🙏
I renounce the world while living in it.
I reside in the “I Am” and watch it all come and go.
Beautifully spoken 🙏 Whether you are on the watery way or the fiery way, if you get overwhelmed remember it’s like Bill Hicks said “It’s just a ride.” You’re a small spark of the Big Energy/God/Creator/Universe having a brief human experience to do just that, EXPERIENCE……..
Enlightenment has infinite paths. And It has not path, enlightenment Is here and now. Is the light of YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS. You ARE the light. You are already THE enlightenment.
Infinite characters infinite dimensions. One conciousness
No one of you has reached enlightenment and you never will… you guys just keep talking about something you have no idea about. Everyone acts so wise but no one actually succeeded
@@Getcakedieyoung23 you have no idea what you are talking about. :) I am not enlightened but I did reach higher states of conciousness on psychedelics. Believe what you want
@@Getcakedieyoung23 surrender to the present moment. You are not only your mind. You are not only your thoughts. Those are tools we use to move and make decisions. To act
@@Getcakedieyoung23kiddo u should stop making urself find ur own shit soo difficult
Thank you for this, Vishuddah. I am a father of two and the sole provider for my family as my wife stays at home. Being a householder is absolutely my dharma and yet through this sadhana I have grown so much on my inward path. I have learned that everyone and everything in front of me is Shiva, especially my wife and children. Har har Mahadev.
I think the fire way is noble because it removes many distractions that may be present for the devotees of this path. The water way is noble because it is so naturally surrendered to the universe, if of course the distractions can be acknowledged for what they are and overcome. I believe destiny is the great decider and kamma. Great video!
Back where you belong. You inspired me several years ago, and you are back in the forefront at a pivotal time for the collective. Thank you so very much for lending your voice, your wisdom and inspiration for those of us on this journey.
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So real🙏🙏
12 year old me would be shocked to find out I still listen to ur videos (I'm 21 now). It's easy to listen to you unlike some other TH-camrs. You have a very nice voice.
I think I went hard on the fire, found the truth, but then decided that if I'm a part of God, I kind of owe it the collective to live the most amazing life possible. To experience the desires of ego, its all part of the fun. Experience what every part of life has to offer. Have your human experience, but keep your truth, your knowing...
The way of fire. A keeper of the transmuting flame.
I believe that many times we don't choose a path but it is life which takes us one way or the other. At the end the only important thing is to be a good person to others.🙏💙.
The path chooses us. With any duality, there are always 4 states not 2. You have the two opposites then the balance and the nothing states. Therefore there are never just 2 polarities to anything in the universe. Once you understand that 2 is really 4, then you realize 4 is infinite. Everything leads to enlightenment sooner or later.
You said word for word what my higher self said to me when I was walking in the woods today. “Everything is a spiritual practice” at certain point in life or in a later life we may resume our fiery path (or what some gnostics say, the direct path) but sometimes for various reasons we may need to walk this watery path as well.
I wouldn’t argue that the fiery way is somehow superior to the watery way.
They both just are.
@@ameliaheart5091 Agreed.
I first started watching your videos at 13. I stopped watching them while I went through some rough things from 15/16-20. Including things like psychosis, abuse of substances, and so on. I neglected my spiritual path. Never indulging to level I should. Never as consitent as I should be. Now, 21, I'm preparing to go into an isolation period. In order to do a lot of things I've been procrastinating and ignoring. I'm going through one of the deepest transfigurations of my life. Now, here you are on my feed again. Along side multi-hour videos of, "Om Namah Shivaya," chanted on repeat. I feel this is going to be a beautiful journey. Thank you, Vishuddha Das 💚
You are on the right path. I admire you. I wish you success in all your endeavours
@@jsam5953 Thank you, I wish you the same!
Wishing you well on your journey ✨ The illusion of the journey makes it seem hard but once you come out it’s so beautiful & you’ll be thankful for the moments that seemed hard Sending you so much love & light.🤍🌹
Good luck girl ❤️ with love
Enlightenment is easy. Fully embodying that truth into our actions in every moment is a constant practice. Those who have fully dissolved themselves in the divine and move in continuous flow are fully awakened. I’ve only seen 3 living beings fully awakened in my 26 years on Earth. This planet is still mostly in the dark. The feeling of myself truly is just a creation from a more fundamental Self, so those who are able to fully get over themselves are able to live from the Self that is unified with all. We must be nothing to exist in flow with everything. And with all that being said, just living as ourselves is the most miraculous thing that could have ever happened. Much love to all ❤🙏🏼
I remember you from Koi’s corner my friend.
So blessed to see how each of us have grown over the years. Thank you for what you do, glad you’re excited about being a father.
Loving it! Happy you're here still as well
I remember watching you in 2009 and I watched you talk about astral travel and I got a amethyst and learned it all by now.
Enlightenment is when you become enlightened by what and who you really are, and you might experience it before even knowing how to meditate like I did, but for me that experience lead me to learn meditation, then i experienced enlightenment again but this time. I knew how it happened. Enlightenment is an awesome and overwhelming experience of beauty, peace, joy, compassion and happiness all at once, through meditation you 're thoughts slow down and stop and you become thoughtless within a split second, you transcend the mind and its compulsive habits and reactions, everything that caused you grief is no longer a part of you, you escape that mental prison of your mind and that's why you feel free and liberated, so enlightenment is about realizing how you escaped and that's the feeling of euphoria, like winning a million dollars on a quiz show because you figured out the puzzle that imprisoned yourself and countless others.
Great video and explanation... It seems both ways are equal and it all depends which path your soul prefers!! Keep up the vids
Life is beautiful, either path we choose is the right way, truth won't change. Thank you for your service to the world, us humans need more Awareness.
Thank you 🙏
It's the most unextraordinary to be striked realization. Shocking after, because I believed there's something transcendental that will deliver me from this world. Actually you have to face everything. It's not an escape how it's usually described. The world is less important but you are still here.
Love this insight brother @VishuddhaDas !!! If I interpret your wisdom correctly, it would seem, I'm on the molten path, fiery hot, but liquid. Sending you and your family blessings!
Love is True!
i think that enlightenment is the beginning of the spiritual journey 💞 thank u for discussing this!
I really appreciate this. I sometimes worry if there is a conflict between my desire for deep spiritual experience and my love for automobiles. But my heart always says love is love.
It's interesting to contemplate where my dharma is taking me. My temperament is best suited for monk life, which would be the easier path for me, I think, but the easiest path might not necessarily be the right one. Thank you for sharing. ❤
You will be a fond memory in many minds as the years go on. We have learned so much from you! A modern day Alan watts. Much love to you and your family
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The water way, the flow, I love it. Thank you for sharing!
Great message ❤ Sometimes the best way out is in!
Thank you for such wisdom!! So helpful for me! ❤🙏namaste
So glad to find your channel again. When I was younger I found your videos about dreaming. Essentially you were such a major influence in my journey. Thank you!
Thanks for the great video my friend !
You are very eloquent and your kind intentions shine through your words !
the stoke is realm, the feels are deep. happy to see your content again.
I am fully for the watery way! 🌊 It doesn't make sense to me to be born in this world with flesh and blood but constantly being in resistance to it and not fully experiencing it. If we were meant to not have earthly pleasures we wouldn't be here, we would be in the spirit world. Accepting where you are and enjoying it is the way to go in my opinion ❤
ive tried to eliminate the ego so long and have made it suffer, ove started accepting my role my goals and strive to keep on living my society life whole trying to make a positive impact
So grateful to be here ❤️
woooo you are on a roll !
I love it 💜🥰🌸🎶✨️ and it's so fun to create our character in this avatar, choosing what will serve most while enjoying freedom of expression and beauty and also getting to know and take care of our physical bodies where we experience this embodied spirituality.
The water way is literally in the world but not of it! Great video ❤
Yes! I'm just currently In this human body right now and I must make the best of it so why not wake up, realize the harm that I'm doing or the celebration I'm bringing to the table, and have a good time while doing it?! Yes!
What a wonderful video ❤ Thank you ❤
Great message this is felt across the planet and everyone will innerstand this is a beautiful message I love this💜
Thanks so much I’ve been watching your channel for a different account since the beginning, I enjoy all of them, I even own both your books they help me out and I’m still on that journey.
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much for this enlightenment ✨
I am either one of both or one of neither because I tend to isolate but I feel the need to be expressive and embody nature to attempt to understand it at the forefront of the self. I am I. I don't mean to be egocentric, but I grew up under both Catholic and Lutheran households and convoluted by an Aitheist, experienced paranormal experience, and now I question everything and try to find parallels and anomalies within nature, resisting all foundation in contrarianism. I'm trying to be a wizard when the "science" we're all structured by doesn't fully add up to my own accord. I aim to swim up the stream of life, find the root of the problem, rather than just going with the flow...to find the root of the problem of myself means to go back to my earliest memories, and to learn more about my ancestry, and also to dig through the source of all of life in history. Maybe I can eventually pass between the seams; the space between space, time between time, and transverse different worlds to seek immortality. This sounds like some high fantasy garbage I'm spouting but my interests with escapism aligns with my ideal of what I'm escaping towards and what I'm escaping from. Mortality, this reality that's been framed for us when it's almost clear to me that I've been in a different reality, brings me skepticism on everything beyond my point of perception. I feel bound by cyclicality and I aim to supercede it. I don't renounce the world fully, but I don't feel like I belong here either. I also feel like I am meant for more than just the obligation of passing down the torch to just bring life into another, to let life blossom through me into something else because I just see that as repeating everything all over again to apply the same demand, depression, realities, and problems on another. I couldn't bring a child into this corrupted type of world. Instead, I aim to see it through to the end. If there is no afterlife, then all I'm doing is for naught but alternatively, maybe death is but the horizon in which the physical cannot perceive beyond? I will only know once I myself have passed through the veil.
What a wonderful surprise.Welcome back spirit brother
Happy New Year to you and your beautiful family! ❤
I’m so glad you’re back!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom, I’m so grateful for your teachings🙏🏾
Blessed they can help
I guess I've been practicing the watery way 😅😊
Love u brother. blessings of the highest 🙏🏾👁💎😇🕉💥🌊
Bruh you really know what’s up!!!!
I used to feel a lot like fire but it seems like life is asking me to deep into water to learn even more from this way
Absolutely 🙏
Thank you for your love and wisdom Vishuddha
Been watching you since the days u were called Koi Fresco if i m not mistaken
Stay well and may the cosmos bless you and your loved ones !!!!
wow, thank you so much for this; this is exactly what I needed. have an amazing day, fellow human :)
Interesting! I'd not herd these ideas presented in this 'fire/water' way, but admit that it makes 'sense'. As you point out, when I started learning/using yoga in the early 90's, I approached it as I'd been taught to approach pretty much everything... as 'exercise' that I inserted into all the other things I did with my day. By the early 2000's, tho, I'd come to the realization that life is yoga - yoga is life, which changed everything. Seems odd that a fire horse (by the Chinese zodiac), like myself, would identify as much as I do with water, but guess it's all part of 'going with the flow'. Thanks for the food for thought : )
We are. We can swim with the flow of the universe because we are eternal unconditional love. Thank you.
I complement you in your oration. Thank you for this video. 🙏
I think both ways are very important. Our life should be formed in a Balance
Thank you!
Thank you brother! ❤
Good to see you buddy! This is a great take and is a great way to remind us that there isn't just one way.
Happy the video helped!
This is very interesting! The Celtic Goddess Brigid is represented in both the fire and water element at once. Ive been meditating on what this means.
Thank you.
One thing I have come across recently is the Kabbalah. If you see the tree of life there is 10 spots and 22 paths. Well one take is that this tree is a roadmap. If you want to call enlightenment reaching the top then it’s the different paths you can take. I only share so if you want more things to dig into. To me enlightenment is simply breaking through a barrier. Whatever that barrier is. What enlightenment means for your pet cat is not what it means for a human. And likely it will not be the same for a spirit. And that won’t be the same for an angel. Each being has new heights because they’re already on higher levels. Each enlightenment simply places the opportunity for the next.
This is very reminiscent of Soren Kirkegaard's difference between the Knight of Infinite Resignation vs the Knight of Faith.
I have been thinking lately.... Instead of being like fire, or being like water, to be like lava, which incorporates both elements
Thank you for sharing this info! I really value your wisdom 💜
Glad it was helpful 🙏
Thank you for being a becon to those lost at sea you started my journey to find my inner light you sow seats of beauty in the cosmic tapestry
Many thanks 👍
It's Lila the divine play at work. I think that's a very interesting concept and a very unique way of putting it. I think they're all playing the role that fits them best. I think the person who realizes the truth and stays in the world is no different than the person who realizes the truth and checks out of the world, because they're still characters, and their still consciously aware of their existence. Though one can abide in an unconscious realm, they are not always their, and as you're as you're conscious you're part of the show.
Gratitude ❤🙏
great teaching.... wet/middle fire/renunciation... hope your having a great year so far
Thanks, you too!
I do both balanced, live in Society Material but no desire but still enjoy it, no kids but yes partner, still devotee for a long time , surrender and fasting and then go out , I just not With or Without , The true way for me ( as I believe after years ) is The TAO TE ( it is both water and fire ) not one component that's true enlightment but as it is very simple, it is as the fullest path the trickier as you have to know when to be fire when to water and how long and what attiude but through surrendering everything goes on naturally
wonderful
Thank you for this ❤
Thanks for sharing. In vedic terms we Talk about brahmacari path and grhasta path. Maybe thats similar to what you have mentioned.
Dandavat
Very nice video. I feel like watery way isn't very appreciated and might often pressure people to live a lifestyle they're not really made for. We're all different, with different needs and interests and becoming one with our world is a singular experience for each one of us.
Thanks brother ❤
wow, definitely on the firey path! thank you
Wonderful!
Beautiful explanation❤I got it
Love how u explain the way of water and fire
Im going through the way of fire and water at the same time . Is this good or bad
Currently I'm transitioning from water to fire. I call that awareness "the observer".
Man I love u. You look so chill
There are 112 paths to enlightenment
The most important is doing what one feels resonates with them the most
Each being is unique, as no 2 drops in the ocean are identical yet all merge into one ocean
One consciousness
May everyone be blessed on this journey no matter which path one takes….what is meant for you will never pass you by….the divine is seeking you, just follow your heart, it will reveal to you your path through intuitive feelings ! Just go with the flow of life, go with how you feel any particular day, nothing is set in stone, everything is forever shifting and moving gracefully
🙏 surrendering to the divine will with complete acceptance of what is or isn’t happening for you in your life. This journey into the heart takes immense courage. May all be blessed with an open heart 💚 u
Thank you, I was worried I was somewhere inbetween Fire and Water lol, like maybe mist
This is beautiful 💜❤️
this fire path thing reminds me of spiritual alchemy, for me going full on to water path seems like it might be much harder me to maintain logic and objectivity when it comes to inner and outer stuff
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Thank you brother! Namaste🙏
Welcome!
When I think of water and fire together, the first thought is we end up with hot water..
Unless there is much more fire, then water seems to disappear. But I was reminded of an Astrologer's presentation of the combinations of elements, with this duo creating Steam.
Hmmm steam.. but also I'm thinking, fire doesn't exist very well without the other elements, Air and Earth. Does Fire exist without Air? What about without Earth? Water is also in the Air on Earth right.. hmmm well thank you so much for this wonderful video and words of yours to further contemplate and integrate
it is a roll, so you play it well
We're all just souls playing roles. - Ram Dass 🙏
Wet way alll day! Having children is amazing
yeah I think that burning up of what I tought to be was not done thru me.... but I was propably pushed on fire path :D but at the same time after the falling I kinda try, but only try to do that... acctually I do kinda both.... also discovered that " Imortality" might not be what we tought to be
My understanding is both are necessary. To pick one path without understanding and balancing with the other is like understanding one side of a coin without understanding the full depth of what's really there. It's still only a partial understanding, not a full comprehensive. Life is study
Very true, and well said! Peace and joy to you and your family brother! ✌
Thank you, yours as well 🙏
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well we did it to play, remembering it shouldn't stop the play!!!!
I think they’re the same, just reflecting each other like everything else. Diving into the world is the same as diving into urself n vise Versa. Although different physically, which is the egos way of seeing it. Or in other words the ego will think it’s (physically) different. So I say why not both🤷♂️
The Way Of Air My Brother
I'm happy to see you post
Thank you so much!