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You missed some more: 1. When out of stamina while swimming you don't drown to your death, but instead, you slowly lose your hp to your death. This opens the chance to just teleport back to any teleport point you want. 2. Teleport points fully heal and fully revives you & your entire team with no limitation. 3. If you are stuck (can't pertrude over ledges) while climbing or wall running, you don't consume any stamina. 4. Free fall (no plunge) from 100m doesn't kill you, this only applies to Resonators (normal people would of course....die). 5. Perfect dodge doesn't consume stamina. 6. Daily Quests also affects the NPCs life (ex: from being jobless to being hired, telling your stories would inspire them to travel the world, etc). 7. NPCs have more "life" in them. 8. You can invite your own playable character to a gondola date.
@@plainsalt But hey at least it gives us lonely and no life people some company too especially we are now at the month of love and romance coz we have nothing coz we either are a company slave or a neet
@@plainsalt at least better than only seeing your playable characters appears only for limited time on events and then they dissapeared for God-knows-when😂
crown system atleast isnt that bad since lvl 9 to 10 talents arent that big different most of the time, but damn those weekly boss materials just never enough
"Why are wuwa players always comparing with genshin 😭?" Because we're former players too. So we know how terrible and trash genshin is. Don't talk to me about quality, i was there when it was released. I played that shitty game for years, not just GI, but HSR too, so were justified to call out how much of a trash and how lazily made it is.
GI Devs don’t listen bc the die hard fans don’t listen. They rather eat slop and stay silent while Hoyo milks them like cows. All the criticism is not for those die hard fans. It’s for the ones with at least half a brain so they can save themselves from getting sucked into an empty game that lacks soul.
@@fujiwarakeiichi5882Actually these comparisons serve to give the Hoyodevs a wake up call. The more they realize they can't get away with what they're doing to their players, the better it will be. This is pretty much the only way. People compare it with a way better medium until they realize how much they have to improve instead of crying on a stage.
Its true WuWa QoL is insanely good and Genshin just feels like trash nowadays like the domains being closed on specific days is the one I hate the most. Also the lack of endgame (which I think they will add next patch but still) and the lack of new mechanics or coop, competitive? At least a boss raid ? hell even Guilds would be good but nope nothing in 4 years
You forgot when farming in the over world and collecting chests in WuWa, you don’t pick up the items individually. They are instantly collected and enter right into your inventory.
yeah, like WHY THE HECK did the item jumped out of the chests ? it doesn't make any sense, are there any springs or something like that in there ? other games didn't do that
5 years in genshin, and still nothing with these: 1. access to buy previous 4* event weapons _(HSR has this)_ 2. skip buttons for dialogue scenes _(ZZZ, TOF & WUWA have this)_ 3. artifact loadouts _(WUWA is about to release echo loadouts)_ 4. double artifact drops event _(not just double leyline and double talent books drops event)_ _(HSR, ZZZ & WUWA have this)_ 5. claim weekly boss drops 3x a week from the same weekly boss of our choice_ _(WUWA & HSR have this)_ 6. inter-conversion of weekly boss drops into another drop of a different boss _(Example: 1 Dvalin drop + 1 Boreas drop + (Dream Solvents) = 1 Signora drop)_ _(HSR has this)_ 7. conversion of excess overworld boss drops into other overworld boss drops _(HSR has this)_ 8. daily respawn of overworld ascension level-up mats _(WUWA has this)_ 9. resin reserve overflow system _(ZZZ, WUWA & HSR have this)_ 10. remove day-specific availability of artifact, weapon mats & talent books domains _(HSR & WUWA have done this)_ 11. Katheryne tab so we don’t have to go to her to claim commission rewards every single day _(WUWA & HSR have this)_ 12. fix layout of Teapot furniture buying list. it’s vertically sooooo long. even with filter settings, it’s still long. 13. better system rotation of rerun banners. chronicled banners region-locked isn’t enough of a solution. 14. portable crafting bench so we can craft condensed resin or anything anywhere _(HSR & WUWA have this)_ - There are more QoL changes needed. But Genshin devs are just the most tone-deaf. - Also if you’re Genshill, don’t even start. You are the big reason why Genshin is outdated.
Just to add: ZZZ lets you farm weekly boss mats as much as you want - three times for free and the rest cost 60 energy. The downside being you only get 1 boss mat every round.
Great list! here's what I've compiled on my end from what I heard over the years: *Updated list of what longtime Genshin players have been asking for (~5years):* - *Loadouts* to save a few artifacts sets and weapons per character, should be up to 7-8 slots, at least one for each element type+add option to change element of MC anywhere in overworld - *More repeatable and unrestricted SOLO & CO-OP permanent combat content* with customizable difficulty, buffs, de-buffs, NO TIMERS, etc. But also *more casual content* that is less reliant on Meta or character investments to have fun solo or with friends. - *Resin overflow system* + condensed resin capacity increase - *Retire the day locked domains for weapons and talents materials* - *Togglable constellations* for content creators, testers, or people who want to try challenges - *Epitomized Path for 4-stars* and more characters/weapons in the Starglitter shop - *Old events (as optional DLC) to be re-playable for new players* and be able to experience *hidden/missed lore* and mini-games - A way for *new players to acquire old event character signature weapons* in a shop - More in-game *characters emote and animation for role-players* like; waving, clapping, sitting… (already exist in the game files and used in story quests) - *Skip dialogue option for speedrunners* - *Un-cap FPS on PC and Android* (We do not care if you made a deal with “apple”, fix this for the benefit of all travelers once and for all) - *Add controller support for Android devices* (Same as previous... Use your army of lawyers and fix this injustice. This is anti-consumer and not inclusive for travelers around the world.) - Clear *buff indicators with cool-downs* in the UI(user interface) and *hp bar for shields* - Add *3 extra 10-pulls* (cost: 8 fates) to the /beginner's banner/ and make the *50th pull a guaranteed standard 5-star* character _(HSR already implemented this)_ - *FIX DEHYA.* Then address the *bug reports* on characters like Eula, Mona, Xinyan etc
i think for the combat content hoyo wouldn't want to make it "not rely on Meta" since they still gonna do powercreep old characters and make the new characters have some exclusive features... @@ryokyko
Honestly at first I was thinking WuWa needs that boss convert, then I remembered that we get more than enough anyways. Oh you forgot to mention by the way: WuWa lets you double the waveplate usage in domains and tacet fields for forced double rewarda
Okay, I’m not a former Genshin Impact player, but man, I feel bad for the OG and current players. The three-day respawn for flowers is frustrating, and farming materials on different days is such a hassle. I understand that the standard and limited weapon are the same banner, but I hope Genshin Impact copy wuwa and implements similar improvements. It would be great if they added features like a skip function, unlimited stamina, parkour mechanics, grappling, and even flying-even if it’s region-locked.
I am, but honestly, I didn't think about it that much until it's said in the video. I can see the very reason why they did that, but it's still infuriating to think about.
Yeah i play both,upgrading new character and weapon is faster in wuwa.Genshin too time gated.You need to make a schedule since some upgrade item only available for specific day,but all available on saturday and sunday
@@matdan4576 This definitely. I came back to Wuwa 2 weeks ago and since then have upgraded about 5 characters to the highest I can at ascension phase 5. Highly doubt I could do that with Genshin.
@@iamnoone5960 genshin Devs are not talented to make that type of mechanics. The only reason the game got popular is because of covid otherwise no one plays that shi on the other side people already call wuwa a modern masterpiece so that says alot already
Hahaha, because of that 3 days respawn back then I have 2 alts account just for material farming, one playing on phone and main acc on PC. I have to plan which days I'm gonna farm for chaacter, even making alarm and reminder sometimes 😂
Comparing Genshin Impact and Wuthering Waves is beneficial as it motivates growth in both games, pushing developers to improve and innovate. It drives self-improvement, as each game refines mechanics, graphics, and storytelling to stay competitive.
Yes. New game coming soon. Wuwa would be compare to other new game as well. Looking at project mugen their traversal probably can be inspired for kuro as well. Who know I didn't mean transportation
This comment reads like it was written by AI. All comparing these games does is spark more arguments in the communities because those are the people that this content appeals to. You think the Genshin Impact dev team sits down and lunch and watches videos like this? The developers just code what the higher-ups of the company tell them to, they don't just get to add what they want, even if they can see it's a detriment to the game. The majority of people who watch these are people who just want to shit on others games they think are 'inferior' to the one they play (cough cough twitter) There isn't even competition here because at the end of the day Genshin has been around for so long it has too many people who are either in too deep (sunk cost fallacy) or just a bunch of loyal people who think it's the best and get mad when others compare it. We can clearly see the decline in the quality of the game but so many still play it. It will be the same with Wuwa eventually (maybe not the decline in game quality, we don't know though). It already has a very aggressive side of the fan base who drool at the mouth even thinking about how they can compare it to other gatcha games. These videos are pointless unless they are formatted in a way to highlight good things both games do and leave a decision left to the viewer on what they want to play
@@123newjersey3 that hurt ww instead gi. revenue go down day by day because they not introduce player they are totally different genshin. Did you know it? people not want start from zero on a similar game, ananta will destroy ww, then you know why zzz choose that concept
@@DartNguyen GBF vs FGO the oldest gacha competition back then if you look at them? what happen to one of the titles? takes example GBF, the game never seen in any of your said fake revenue but they keep improving, even having festival every year in japan, not to mention big project with AAA titles. and are you even playing both of the games? WuWa and GI is totally different but still in the same genre
to add for aesthetic view wuwa 1. npc's clothes 3d model is better. not just image. have depth for each accessories, clothes layers etc 2. exclusive npc have exclusive design genshin 1. all npc 3d model just plain mob design. no depth etc. some stick to body 2. exclusive npc just have same model as mob npc. just twick the color palette. (ZZZ now have exclusive design for exclusive npc. HSR some) genshin maybe late to realize this cuz they release earlier than wuwa. so maybe they continue follow what have done. many characters can have different design such as playable parents, Katheryne, Jeht and his father, Moon Carver, Mountain Shaper and other. but the cons is the players will demand them to be playable.
You right. They did made Cloud Retainer playable at least, but the devs could've done more & had the other two adeptus be playable as well. . I wouldn't say The Captain deserves to be playable since he's revealed to be a Khanrian, and last I checked there's no playable character we have who's from an already destroyed civilization.
I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HACE SCHEDULED DOMAINS And then when I missed or forgot about it "Oh crap I have to wait for a few more days again!" This is why I'm lazy to build in Genshin
There’s a big point. If you speak up in questionnaire in both games about improving your experience, guess who’s gonna listen and make changes, who’s not?
Comparing different games is actually pretty healthy for games: Game developers can see easier what another does better and how they can improve their game(s), also they can take inspiration and ideas for next updates and content. They can also avoid mistakes that another one did, or fix them before it's too late
i like most of the comments ain't even bothered to point out one of these 50 things, because they knew that it is factually better and just resorted to "why keep comparing?" You could even do 50 Things HSR did better than Genshin because of the lack quality the game has given for 4 years. This game breeds tribalism from the very first moment it was born, just look at the elitism between HI3rd and Genshin back then, and the whole "Genshin could never" joke started during HSR release, this game is already problematic before Wuwa even exist, and frankly Wuwa just make those problems broaden to more players.
Also adventuring in wuwa is so comfortable u got grapple, flight (only in rinascita), wallrun, echo that makes u go faster, the paws from white cat event, etc
in some aspect is it worth it. i was a dolphin player and i dont play anymore, and teh main reason is that 1) the story is very dense, and too much at one time 2) the lack of qol in the game 3) lack of end game ( i never really 36 star the abyss, but its so stale. in hsr you can js skip the entire thing and get your jades)
Note : You're missing something about number 49 (5:30) in wuwa. The flight stamina can be increased by completing region's exploration progress, completing all exploration increases the stamina by a lot, making travel distances even further. And if you use Carlotta in your team (if you activated her 2nd forte skill), the flight stamina consumption decreases by 20%, making flight 20% longer.
@@DartNguyen you're missing the point here, it's about the distance and improvement in the flying stamina gauge which WUWA have and genshit didn't, btw you can you the grappling and flying from the ground
@@DartNguyenlol, it's not the non-permanent temporary buff it's the permanent increase in your flight stamina, at the moment you can fly you only have ~7s boost or 14s glide if you max it out it'll have ~14s boost or 28s glide by default without any buff. and other temporary buff will be add to that which can stretch me to ~20s boost & 35s glide i play both and i know genshin doesn't have that and although it's limited, some WW char that has plunge atk can self start fly from ground. yangyang can self start on my end
@ red feather fan boost my fly speed and Wind Catcher help me fly from the ground. why people noit talk about that stuff which ww not have .And what new with improve stamina permanent by exploration ? is that basic gameplay of genshin. i still dont get it. Guys, common you glazing them so much, but this is nothing great or even different here
@@DartNguyen GI fan boost only for 30s, wind cather need to search for anemogarna holds only 5 at a time, both has 100s cooldown, which is bonkers to me from day 1. i have to wait minutes to use again?? wut? why?? tell me. untill then ill just teleport. in WW i can also fly from ground just like GI as well 24/7 without searching for anything, right away hundreds of time. i also don't need any high ground or cliff as stated in video while speed boost is already there by default because it uses your stamina, the full boost time is 14s untill you have to either latch to a wall, stingray, or land. 4s cooldown/stamina Refill time. if you're blind, this 4s is faster than 100s. and I don't need to wait for the red fan buff to get speed boost again. in GI i can kinda fly for a long time as long as saurian is within reach but it's still hard because the red saurian is not always be there, rng let's say 5050 chance longest fly time i had in WW is 9 MINS without touching the ground, flying from rinasita to fangaea peninsula (castle) and back. how? that flying stingray, if you latch onto it it'll bring u up an altitude and fully recover your flight stamina and it spreads across the land. my friend literally flew for 20mins straight without touching the ground circling all new regions which can be done infinitely if you have time to waste you better play both 1st to have a feel and i can really WW is way more easier to fly. this is coming from 1200 days day 1 GI player and day 1 WW player
The thing is, Genshin is earning more, but their players are getting less. Meanwhile Wuwa is earning less, but their players are getting more, and are more happy in playing this game. I prefer the second one.
"Why do wuwa players always compare their game to genshin" Because we can, our game is superior and we have the right to brag about it? If you think your game is better then show the proof. As someone said Wuwa ruling gacha meanwhile genshin ruining gacha
Plus they are also the one who insulted it as "genshin copy" first (like legit hoyotards will accuse any games that has similar feature as "genshin copy" even if the game exists before genshit) Remember how they also sending hate messages in WuWa's 2.0 update livestream and attacking neutral CCs for criticizing genshit So basically if they insult WuWa then we will just rub anything WuWa does better to their faces
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 if you are ex genshin players then use that account and join someone's world and insult them. It's so fun ruining these hoyoshills day
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 if you are ex genshin player then login to that account and join a random persons world and keep insultingthem. It's funny seeing these hoyoshills dayruined
@@quanlinglingdingle6122they are jealous of wuwa quality and wuwa's revenue, that's why they show fake numbers trying to hide wuwa at the last. It's not even a year and people are already calling it a modern masterpiece, THAT IS WUWA. Proud to be a wuwa fan
Not really. 1)It's harder to farm echoes than it is to farm artifacts. 2) Puzzles in Genshin are better. 3) Music is better in Genshin. 4) Genshin is more fantasy-like. 5) Genshin is better for casual players. 6) Wuwa also reuses NPC models but they do have slightly more variety.
@@phones961O2 harder to farm echoes than it is artifacts…you have got to be joking with that one. Sure it may be more grindy but its not like you need to spend resin (waveplates) on every single piece 😭 Puzzles are inconsequential and can honestly be boring from my experience. Give you the music, I still don’t have tracks that compete with Sumeru in WuWa but I have hope. WuWa seems to do a lot more for npcs compared to Genshin I’ll be honest. Genshin may be better for casual players but the longer they play the more experienced they become and it can get boring. Both are fantasy, Genshin just does High Fantasy whereas WuWa does Fantasy and Sci-fi BUT we do have concept of a region that forbids technology so maybe that can shed some light in the future
@@phones961O2 It's harder to farm echoes than it is to farm artifacts?? ARE WE PLAYING SAME GAME? I BUILT MY ROCCIA IN 2 DAY WHILE I'M STIL FARMING FOR ARLECCHINO AND IT'S BEEN 5 MONTH? DON'T DEFEND THE SH**TY ARTIFACT SYSTEM OF GENSHIN. EVEN THE CRAFTING TABLE GIVES NOTHING. CLEARING TACET FIELDS GIVES A LOT ECHO THAN GENSHIN'S STU**D ARTIFACT TREE
as someone who is currently leveling my teams to 90, the only things i dislike is how much credit (shells i think?) you spend when leveling, and echo exp is also very scarce
For now flying is region locked in WuWa as well, it's still free for all characters though. One major flaw in WuWa is the fact that Echos require almost double the amount of stamina ( XP tubes and tuners), unused and unlevelled echos cannot be used as fodder. Given the staggering percentage for them to turn into unusable rubbish, this kinda erase the advantage of farming echos without spending stamina. Just to be intellectually honest, i like WuWa, but I ain't blind nor stupid.
@@srijeetbanerjee5401 I hope Kuro improves the echo system, tbh, not with temporary events, but with better droprates of tubes, OR letting the player use echos as fodder, OR lowering the stamina cost. Lucklily is Kuro and not YoYoverse, there's a bit of hope.
It is still infinitely better than Genshin's system where you need to roll 5 different pieces of one specific set for one specific character out of two sets from one of 50 specific domains, there is a chance you won't even get an artifact of needed set much less the needed piece with the needed main stat and needed substat, it can roll into the bad stat rendering it subpar or useless WuWa system is not perfect cause any randomized system is kinda bull...But I equip my characters WAY faster than in Genshin, beyond faster. It isn't so bad if you level up in increments, this way you can roll your wanted 2-3 stats and then take it all the way cause it will then be usable. Even though you can roll less or more of one stat, there is less layers of randomness from my experience...
Wuwa players: Wuwa is better because... *Literally brings up 50 things that are objectively better in Wuwa. Genshin players: Genshin is better because It's Genshin!
You can get 2 free 5 stars standard characters, in two separated banners when you begin playing, not just 1. One is of your choice, the other one is casual. And you can get 2 free 5 stars standard weapons, not 1. One is gifted in the beginners weapons banner (you can select whatever you prefer to get), and the other one is gifted at Union Level 45, and you can select the one you want. The standard weapons banner allows you to pick a 5 stars standard weapon, so when you select that weapon you are guaranteed to get that weapon within 80 pulls. And then you can select another one if you want after, or get more of the others to refine them. They also gifted a limited 5 stars character, but it was time limited. Lastly, you can swap characters even when swimming, not just gliding and flying, and you can use grapple to get you out of the water. There are also more things, but they are a lot so I understand it's difficult to include them all. Good video btw!👍
Speaking of free limited 5* character, I can't hold my laugh while thinking about Alloy. She can't even function like a normal character (no constellation, boring kit). On the other hand, we have Xiangli Yao in WuWa, a very good DPS, a true 5* resonator. Save a whole 80 pulls and a guarantee for the next resonator that you like or go for his gauntlet if you want. I can't even believe Kuro do this.
I can think of one more thing: Wuwa's MC feels like a real MC. They are meaningfully strong and have several voice lines in story quests, with more emotions on their faces/actions too. Genshin's MC feels like an NPC more than MC. They are easily forgettable, having all the spotlight stolen by Paimon, and now Lumine just disappeared from all the official videos, because why not.
It hasnt been a year since Wuwa release and it already have so much more and better QoL than Genshin in upcoming 5 year anniversary. Great Wuwa and Genshin comparison. And such a underrated channel :o.
Also to note about the 8th Reason: the overflow mechanic is also like this in HSR, BUT it doesn't allow me to transfer my 2400 Reserves while my Trailblaze power is still full. I have to use all the energy up first & then refill it over & over again, while in WuWa I can just overcap it every 2 days or so.
Wuwa and zzz have enough small insignificant little add ons on their respective games that enhance the playing experience and shows that they care about their characters a bit more than HSR and Genshin.
- There is no paimon. - Both light and dark Rover a decent character, if you don't have Jihnsi or Camelliya to cover dps slot. All Travelers are dogshit, well dendro was okayish. - Abby did infinitely more in 1/billionth of Paimon screen time who is still don't have reason to exist in the story. - And there is no Paimon - WuWa actually know how to code quests, so no "Character X is busy, please finish that first". - 4-stars has fancy zoom in for ults too. - Also no Paimon.
51 : New update at new region let you grabhook an Casket (Anemoculus, Electroculus,....) and fly into it instead forced to own some certain characters has special ability to get them 52 : Loot/ drop after defeat monsters auto collect instead manual pick
its soo easy to build characters in just days given if u farmed for the weekly boss, I get to actually enjoy the character instead of wasting away days just to farm domains
47 seems a problem because its a feature locked in Rinascita but please Kuro, make a license for it like how we can use lootmapper and sonar casket in other regions.
As a former GI player, i think 50 is not enough. E.g. in ww, i can easily double claim reward without condensed resin. I used to catch a lot of fking crystalfly and trust me, that's not fun at all
You can buy resonator's level up materials with shells weekly, you don't need to stress out searching a lot of flowers through the map but that doesnt mean you couldn't explore it.
At least Genshin has Dawei May Cry. While Kuro just has a CEO who always listens to players and improves their game.😏 So, Genshit is better... ...in your dream.
double claiming domain rewards without needing to craft or hunt for those fairy thingies. Daily commissions consist of one quest instead of 4. Which are objectively faster on a one by one comparison and have skippable dialogue. Skippable dialogue has summaries. Trivial fights in domains on top of double claim keeps time spent on stamina dailies short. Wall running. You can plunge attack without needing elevation. The game has dark soul difficulty bosses which is better for the hardcore demographic. Your characters automatically vault over objects as they run. WuWa does not lock movement options behind character gacha like Genshin does but instead makes them available for everyone. WuWa does not hide sonance caskets from the minima based on height unlike genshin oculus. WuWa has illusive realm, a rogue lite that allows you to play characters in unconventional ways. I could go on but I think it's enough 😅 You could do a part 2 for this video lol that just shows how many things WuWa does better than genshin
elemental reactions is very fun and cool concept design i use to love those vape,reversed vape, shattered, cyro combo back then but devs sleep on it, dendro comes out and cryo,physical,geo is dead
@max78966 when i first played gi on release that was hella awesome, like the combination and things you can do woth it, sadly you right on the last part If you want to see more elemental reaction, there was this game, br, called spell break, and it was amazing on the combos of each element. I think if executed well, the elemental reaction could be improved on much better, tho in the open world gacha space, yeah genshin takes the elemental reaction on this
@ brother right now if the devs focused more on depth of elemental reactions and freedom of expressions through your characters and more good endgame GI would bounce back so hard
GI combat system, compared to WuWa, is much more flexible and allows more team comps. WuWa combat system is interesting, but it cages the player in very specific team compositions, outside of wich the teams simply don't work. Mind you, one can easily ignore the optimisation and have fun with wacky teams, but rotations and outputs become much more cluncky to operate than GI. Also 4* weapons in GI are, again, much more flexible and some of them are almost on par with 5*, while in WuWa, 4* weapons, even the BP ones, have a stark 30-40% lower performance than 5* . To think that in GI one can even use very efficiently free 3* weapons, the comparison becomes even more brutal. What is ruining GI is the management that refuses to really improve the game, hence why WuWa is taking hold rapidly among players.
@@RejectedInch i would respectfully disagree with that statement on gi being flexible as you do need specific elemental reactions to get the most out of it, locking you in specific team comps as well. Especially if one relies on it On wuwa it does also do the same by making you team support, sub dps and main dps so its not out of the question on locking in teams Basically both to get the most of it in both games you have to do specific teams with what you have, or you can disregard any team comps since genshin has 4 character team and wuwa has a bit of something to add as well in their own way The 4* seems to be balanced (my experience) as there are stats that are not on the 5* like crit rate thats i think is found on bp weapons, tho that was short lived due to wuwas gacha making it a guaranteed weapon banner If we are talking about combat system as well i do have to add other things from wuwa, and I do hope you also add from genshin (assuming you are very familiar with their combat system) in case i miss some What i can add from wuwa side is Parry, dodge, counter attack, intro and outro skill, echoes On what iam familiar on genshins combat system is Elemental reactions, i know theres a little bit of dodge, but one that takrs the cake over wuwa is genshins shield mechanics Overall, i do acknowledge what you are saying, and may have my own opinion that is different from yours, as to me, wuwa has a bit more to offer in combat
on point 49: That flying part was only when you boost yourself constantly. You only need to boost when you need to gain a bit more speed to not touch the low ground or gain attitude. I flew the whole Rinascita map with only having to refill air stamina twice, and with great conditions, one can fly almost the whole place without touching the ground. And a few more things not mentioned enough: - The world changes as you progress, and you can see exactly where and how it changed, - Worldbuilding via NPCs and their dialogues (more prominent in 2.0) - Daily quests that's utilized in both world-building and keeping balance between fight and leisure activities, - Characters' details in animation and in action, - COMBAT (HOW DID YOU NOT EVEN MENTION THIS THING YET???) - Permanent events (events that contributes both lore and character's story, unlike the previous lantern festivals with Scaramouche) - Male characters. I'm a guy, but... - Shorekeeper's domain. I love Genshin's Sakura Cleansing Ritual sidequest and I think it did more justice to the worldbuilding of Inazuma, but having a mask that I can neither wear or keep in my inventory at all is a shame (Even worse when it turned into a blueprint of a weapon, which not only makes the character's quest more ironic, but also tragic). On the other hand, Kuro did not have to give me an entire domain as an extra to the main story quest, but damn. A beautiful place, beautiful music, and Shorekeeper right next to me playing the piano. This unironically made me cry for an entire afternoon. And I haven't even covered everything yet.
The world changes in genshin as well as you progress more? Since you don't know that, I'll tell you that. Not to mention that genshin works on elemental reactions so some people prefer that instead of dodge and parry? But yes, the combat in wuwa is faster, I'll agree, still it depends on what you like? The graphics of both games are good, it's just the art style that's different so choose whatever you prefer. Npc in genshin doesn't progress the stories? Hello? Teppei is just one example by the way, since wuwa players seem to have forgetful memory. Also, as many things mentioned in the video are stupid, I like hearing Katherine's "Ad Astra Abyssosque" because when I returned to genshin, it gave me a weird sense of nostalgia that wuthering waves never did, however I do realize the only thing wuwa does way better is being more kind, as there's guaranteed weapon banners etc but people will glaze any games if it keeps giving them free stuff, genshin has been improving on that with more rewards and free 5 stars so I don't think the game bothers me that much, the world building in genshin is clearly better IDC what anyone says but yes, the only thing which I actually liked in wuwa more than genshin is climbing being way easier, that's literally it tbh, other than that I've continued to enjoy both games and it feels like y'all just overreact since it's just a game
@@sakshamv26 worldbuilding is nothing if the world youre playing in is dead. teppei was cool until i remembered that they couldnt be bothered to give him a unique model, which wuwa has in spades. if have felt more for the guy if paimon shut up and let me mourn. jokes aside, its still harder to feel for a guy who wears the same face as everyone else. (also offtopic but i went through GIs npc wiki and saw that Ei was listed as an NPC😭its been years and we still dont get to hear her speak in the overworld as a playable character) the world is built pretty decently, sure. but then you get to the severe word bloat genshin impact suffers from. you CANNOT say, with a straight face that genshin is "improving" with free rewards. thats the biggest joke ive heard since natlans release. a single free 5 star from their illustrious list of worthless units. how generous... do i have to remind you what they did for mavuikas banner? how was that, by the way? you gonna excuse blatant corporate greed and anti-consumer behaviour too? "people will glaze games if it gives them free stuff" naww really? fr? ong? its almost like when a company shows respect for you, the player, you respect both the game and compnay more. good faith is a powerful resource that hoyoverse are running out of with every update they push that shows that they arent listening and that they dont care. wuwas weapon banner is how it SHOULD be. lets not forget genshin people have a certain bald man to thank for the weapon banner not being as bad as it could be in GI. wuwa has only been out for 8 months. of course you wouldnt be nostalgic yet. and its not like you have to go visit the same npc every day to collect your dailies. you can just yoink it from the menu. BUT, ngl, i wouldnt be opposed to having a someone to go to optionally.
@Rain64 I don't get why are people crying over mauvika's banner placement so much tbh, at least GI has more male characters unlike wuwa, not to mention that you can set the crowd density in settings, just like wuwa? What the fuck is this dumb debate? Not to mention that your certain "bald man" used to glaze this same game because at that time this game was the OG and made the weapon banner like that, of course wuwa came so much later so it will try to observe and improve? Genshin still changed the weapon banner fate points from 2 to 1, also they have been improving a lot, ever since fontaine which had melusines in it and natlan, which actually has decent looking NPCs with respect to the art style, y'all just compare things which are so small and cry about it when you forget that genshin did it first and wuwa literally copied most of the idea and made some changes just to please the customers, it's still a gacha, they will still hope to get whales, not to mention that it's annoying how WuWa is more generous for 5-star pulls but sucks due to the 4 star pulls being so high cost in the shop so Genshin's lower 4-star costs balance things out better in the long run (I'm talking about starglitter and resonance crystals here and you can do the damn calculations if you don't believe me) and oh, you wanna talk about bugs? How about so many bugs that existed on wuwa's release despite the fact that it was released so late and they kept apologising for the ages and the hungry fan base didn't even care about the issues, they just kept grabbing the free astrites and thought "oh wuwa is so generous" bruh I literally had to log out of my account one time due to a bug in thaw of eons quest As someone who enjoys both games, each of them has pros and cons but y'all tectone meatriders have been acting like it's trash now when he's clearly a fakeass, bro hated on genshin for so long but when 5.0 came out, he was so speechless and ended up clearly faking the hate and even HIS own fanboys called him out on it with comments like "when the game does bad, we hate, but when it does something so good, we give props, right?" And other sarcastic things, he's just a streamer who keeps shifting off games and wants to earn money from DRAMA but y'all ain't ready for that I'll still agree that wuwa's NPCs (as a whole) look better but genshin makes up for it easily by having saurians in natlan, melusines in Fontaine (as I said, they have been improving in their own way) not to mention the underwater exploration, and quality of life? Dragonspine, chasm, etc have been there since the beginning as one of the best exploration areas which wuwa hasn't come close to, yet I'll still agree that climbing is way better in wuwa and flying is great too (even tho area is limited) it's still great and I won't act like I don't recognise what wuwa has done better Still, y'all cry too much about things which don't matter at all lmao
@@sakshamv26 ive played both games since launch. i only started playing genshin less around end of fontaine, then dropped completely after just spending all i had saved up on mavuika since i had decided it will be the last time i bother with the game for a while. i have my crowd density on MAX at all times, and yes, genshins world at a lot of points is still dead and not very alive. at least not as alive as wuwas rn. i think the point the fella above was trying to make was that youll see old NPCs again in other regions or areas post quests. youll see the cute couple from mt firmament in rinacsita doing well, there are a few quests where youll get npcs that have their own character progression and it shows in the actual world itself. if theres something similar in GI, let me know. its small things yes, but its small things like these that make a world feel more alive. me calling genshins world dead was an opinion. you saying genshins worldbuilding is great is also an opinion and one i kinda agree with. part of the reason im hypercritical about genshin is becuse i do love the game and i want it to improve. if theres any sort of a trend with hoyogames in general, the moment they have their players spending and hooked consistently after a few versions, youll begin to notice a decline in actual effort they put back into their games. from a my point of view, realistically, if you even give it an ounce of thought, why would i continue spending money or wasting time on a game that does not respect neither me or my time as a player? i can understand that it wont be everyones view, but i know MANY other players probably share my viewpoint. with the mavuika banner thing, its about the precedent it sents for the company and game as a whole. it was greedy and not really customer friendly to do that. just reinforces that hoyoverse do not care about the players and just wanna milk more of that sweet revenue at the cost of player satisfaction. again, company good faith is a powerful resource and with every decision like this that genshin makes, it runs out. more BOYS is something i ask for every survey but dont forget that genshin has been out for longer so im willing to give me more time, so ill give you that one. but i WILL say that wuwas male character designs moggs genshins in every way (opinion) ill still never forgive them for ittos noodle arms. ill also add that 4 star weapon opitions in wuwa are an issue that still needs adressing for now. i didnt use bald man to glaze wuwa. i used bald man as an example for how the genshin weapon banner has been terrible for years. he got insanely unlucky and they ended up changing it. you can call me a bald dude glazer all you want, he may HATE genshin but set that aside and youll realise that quite a bit of what hes saying is actually sound. and what makes him a fakeass? hes probably sunk more money into this game than this entire comment section combined. ragebaiter as he may be, if hoyofans werent so profitable to piss off, hed probably be doing something else....or going back to piss of AK fans? what are you on about? natlan npcs are just more of the same reskins with the odd extra little bling they give a few characters. wuwa has indeed been observing and improving and for that it DESERVES praise. its time for hoyoverse to do the same because its money is up but unfortunately the actual quality just isnt there im sorry, but why is free stuff an issue? (ill also consider myself blessed i did not encounter a single bug at all while playing wuwa throughout my 8-ish months of playing) we do give genshin props. it just hasnt done anything worth giving props to for a while. dragonspine was years ago, fontaine has come and gone and we cant keep coasting on its "greatness" forever when we're in a whole new region now. dragonspine was mid for me, underwater exploration was decent and something new but the honeymoon phase wore off quick. i WILL say that fontaine was genshins peak (even though im a shameless inazuma shill) and even though my opinion on genshin was declining at that time i wont lie and say fontaine was anything other than pretty damn amazing, the chasm was extremely forgettable for me but i LOVED enkanomiya. some of these things might be small to you but bigger to someone else. both has pros and cons, yes. but as it stands right now, come 2.0, wuwa has MORE pros than cons when it comes to your average player and its not a crime to point that out like you people seem to make it out to be. there are things genshin has done first, yes, but dont act like they own the rights to basic systems. mfs will see an open world and still compare it to genshin, which is why id also like to point out that it really isnt wuwa fans who started this comparison craze to begin with. hoyofans were doing this since before wuwas launch and then it got worse post launch. then as kuro games kept working on their game and actually trying to make it better with each update, chosing innovation over stagnation, we're at a point where 8 months into wuwa, 2.0 is making genshin impacts age and the lack of dev care show severely. and now all of a sudden its a problem to make comparisons. if its in your nature to just sit back and enjoy, then do that. but dont come over here, trying to lecture people who have every right to not be satisfied and make their comprisons. you are part of the problem. and hey! if you think both are as good as eachother than thats fine too. if its about the store where you can buy 4 star characters and wavebands, id still consider it better, if i remember correctly, (do correct me if im wrong), but genshin has a random rotation for 4 stars every month where wuwa just lets you buy the whichever 4 star is featured currently on the banner, which i prefer, i think
@@sakshamv26 y know how big of an assumption you made by saying how people who plays WuWa is a Tectone meatrider? Plus, I've played this game before. You are right on most points, but only if you limit yourself to the point of playing a small mobile phone game. Not bad, but needs more, and the "more" is behind a slot machine, not a permanent given. And speaking of the permanent given...dude. It's right there. 2 new 5-stars at the same time. WuWa so far only did that twice, and it's either a new character with one old rerun, or 2 old characters rerun. And the placement? Doesn't it sounds bad that you only get more materials to pull after the banner's duration? And your point in areas like Mt. Dragonspine, it's an one time thing. If you have something just like that in the next few updates for each regions, that's awesome, but no such place exists. Inazuma was too hard, Sumeru was too big of a place, Fontaine wasn't even challenging, and Natlan...yeah. Sure as hell not Dragonspine. We're probably crying too much, but for people like you most of the time. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
no constellation C3 or C5 which is only level up skill and burst which we get at very high price also most of S rank character in wuwa are crack on their C0 but in genshin most character skill are locked behind their C1 C2 or so on
Day one WuWa player. Joined Genshin around Inazuma middle I think? Left half way into Sumeru’s versions. Enjoyed Sumeru a lot…but not enough to torment myself (more)
But Wuthering waves saw their own failures on their 1.0 release and improved it on their new updates so what is stopping Genshin from learning from their mistakes and improve their game?
genshin make absurd amount of money have have 5 years of head start to fix and upgrade their qol. and what do we get a barely minimum stamina upgrade, 1 extra endgame, a stories with too much yapping that doesn't straight to the point.
"B-But Genshin crush Wuwa in sales" So? That doesn't mean it's better game last year top sales is filled with EA slops FIFA game or CoD with Elden Ring which is GoTY ranked only at 9
Been on a hiatus from Genshin since 5.3 dropped & Rinascita came out. Really good timing. Planning on trying 5.5, but Hoyo's really compromising that decision altogether.
as a both player of GI and WuWa, the 1 thing that makes WuWa better than GI (for me) is having overflow energy/resin what its called in WuWa, Im working 6 days a week 8hrs a day and there are time that Im just really tired to even play the game, there are times Im just forced to log-in for the sake of monthly. having overflow is really a big deal for me specially for a game that revolves around building your characters(applied to HSR, WuWa and GI), it reallt buffles me that playerbase is calling GI a casual game yet it doesnt have the most basic casual QoL should have. I just hope that in the future, WuWa devs remove the 480 cap and should atleast make it like HSR. also last one, stay strong fellow Zani simps, Im still waiting for drip marketing
51. The game auto-picks up loot after you defeat an enemy or open a chest. How much stuff I left behind because I played WuWa first and was used to not having to pick everything up.
you missed: 51. Waveplates regenerate much faster than resin WuWa: 1 every 6 minutes GI: 1 every 8 minutes 52. Every single character have more details WuWa: Eye moves, Max Forte Effects, Damaged characters when low HP. GI: *dead especially ayaka* 53. Better animations, you can't argue, it's true, not even bias. 54. Being able to track pretty much every single chest in Rinascita.
Some of these design elements like the leveling material streamlining, are even present in Star Rail which really goes to show how Genshin being first also meant it made the most mistakes in design and QoL that other games learned to avoid. Im still wishing for the day when devs realise the whole relic rng system is bad and needs to stop. That's something wuwa and Star Rail failed at, so I just hope future games don't do it
Still trash. I play both games and i can easily say Wuwa is better. I started playing genshin at 1.2 update. As a veteran, based on these 4 years of Genshin torture, I'm saying torture because there is no action or excitement in the game anymore and the fact that all the characters are fanservice made me even more disgusted with the game. And the part that I call torture is that every time I give this game and its producer a chance as a player, they abuse it and alienate me from the game. I want them to listen to me as a player and i can say that NONE of them listening to players like Kuro games does. The GI devs are NOT even trying to make it better. And the GI fans are so sticky, yet they criticize wuwa without giving it a chance or even playing... And don't forget, I'm crossing it out here that the genshin was there for 4 years. It's funny that a 4-year-old game still hasn't been able to listen to its player base and improve itself. While in the other hand, Wuthering Waves is a game that is only 8 months old and if you have played it, you will understand how it values its players.
Literally every gacha player should give it a chance especially after 2.0 patch. The mentioned 44 (missing exploration can be seen from the map) and flight features really got it so far. While playing Wuwa it doesn't feel like it's your daily job or so, it gives pleasure rather. I don't even care about it's story but if Genshin continues like this I'm gonna end up with quitting genshin for a while till any character appeal to me, and completely focus on Wuwa which is currently the most playable gacha game from my view.
Wtf i can change my mc gender?? I once cried on reddit about wanting to change my Genshin mc gender i got so many people who oppose that idea saying it will kill the immersion of the story even though i said iam ok with it. There were also so many that want that feature.
I might be attacked by kurobots for saying this but let's just make it clear. The vast majority of players' issues with genshin are QoL related and everyone values such things differently by their own preferences. For someone it could be a deal breaker, others might not even pay it any mind and focus instead on the actual content. It's not like people are against those improvements but rather they could feel inconsequential. And at the same time there are real issues like absence of the end game yet people demand changes of material domains and other stuff that literally doesn't matter in a long run.
It all depends on that co-op spiral abyss esque endgame. If its permanent they may stand a chance after giving more of what people want. If they make it limited…well
@@Pure_Random the difference is this one is co-op which is something many Genshin players wanted. However if they make this limited like their usual events, they’re gonna be in hot water
Bro, just qol fliying is enough for me to leave genshin fully. Every time i fly in wuwa, my face was like that "sweet relief" meme 😌😌 finally, i can fly without babibubebo
@Canterella if I used the same logic he used which is picking the most random minute things like skins i mean how mamy people care about skins, a thousand will probably pop up, but even if a game does 50 things better than the other one but the other does 10 better when the 10 things are a thousand times better its still gona be the better game
@Canterella Lore, characters with actual depth and thought put behind them instead of being incel bait for discord mods, story with actually engaging plot and moments, music, cutscenes, Environment in some regions, optimization, males, More accessibility, less bugs like i can actually quit genshin and it won't log me out so I'll have to relog every time I go back in unlike wuwa, this has been an issue ever since release and it still persists and if anyone says a lot of these are objective if anyone made a poll about these things about 70% would probably vote for genshin
Please, tell us what Genshin does better (for players) than WuWa. I can think of one thing, which is faster boss respawn, but aside from that it's really hard to think of something, so it would be interesting to find out.
What genshit does better : -music (starting to become stale and 2.0 WuWa has better musics) -vibrant colors to attract kids and their wallet -marketing Thats that im not even joking
Genshin has a really good story and pacing, which is the main reason I still even play. It's also pretty original with story elements. It also had the advantage of coming out in the Golden Age of gaming (2020), and it's pretty good at marketing.
You missed some more:
1. When out of stamina while swimming you don't drown to your death, but instead, you slowly lose your hp to your death. This opens the chance to just teleport back to any teleport point you want.
2. Teleport points fully heal and fully revives you & your entire team with no limitation.
3. If you are stuck (can't pertrude over ledges) while climbing or wall running, you don't consume any stamina.
4. Free fall (no plunge) from 100m doesn't kill you, this only applies to Resonators (normal people would of course....die).
5. Perfect dodge doesn't consume stamina.
6. Daily Quests also affects the NPCs life (ex: from being jobless to being hired, telling your stories would inspire them to travel the world, etc).
7. NPCs have more "life" in them.
8. You can invite your own playable character to a gondola date.
As of number 7 the game in general has more life. Genshin was a lifeless empty wasteland since its beginning.
The "gondola date" is just the other character sitting in front of you. It's pretty lame and is only good for screenshots really.
@@plainsalt But hey at least it gives us lonely and no life people some company too especially we are now at the month of love and romance coz we have nothing coz we either are a company slave or a neet
@@plainsalt at least better than only seeing your playable characters appears only for limited time on events and then they dissapeared for God-knows-when😂
oh I never knew the 1st one. I instantly just travel whenever Im out of swimming stamina lmfao
You can develop skills to the maximum without using the shitty crown System
crown system atleast isnt that bad since lvl 9 to 10 talents arent that big different most of the time, but damn those weekly boss materials just never enough
Yup! That's why I actually max my talents in WuWa, and in Genshin I stop at like 8.
@ The crown system is bad because it is not permanent. Its a valid critique
@@Biocdon+caz it's Very limited and there is no difference in performance In most cases
@@meliho27 yap not that bad agree. The randomness in the resources of the weekly boss is worse
“It’s ok as long as we survive”
Love yourself
Love your game
Love your players
-KuroGames CEO
"It's ok as long as we survive"
Love money
Brainwash kids
Threat content creators
-Dawei May Cry
And hoyoshils glorifying their revenue.....while the game state just getting worse and worse
Hoyo CEO - 😭 please play our shitty game 🤧
@@Primordial_Dark da wei may cry : cheap edition 😎
fr kuro barely surviving now days while hoyo games are still on top 1to3 lmao
"Why are wuwa players always comparing with genshin 😭?"
Because we're former players too. So we know how terrible and trash genshin is. Don't talk to me about quality, i was there when it was released. I played that shitty game for years, not just GI, but HSR too, so were justified to call out how much of a trash and how lazily made it is.
oh yeaaa.... we veteran had it rough on the begining UNTIL now 😂😂😂
can't we just move on bro. leave it as it is. comparing to genshin doesn't make anything better if you want to make people join community.
GI Devs don’t listen bc the die hard fans don’t listen. They rather eat slop and stay silent while Hoyo milks them like cows. All the criticism is not for those die hard fans. It’s for the ones with at least half a brain so they can save themselves from getting sucked into an empty game that lacks soul.
@@fujiwarakeiichi5882Actually these comparisons serve to give the Hoyodevs a wake up call. The more they realize they can't get away with what they're doing to their players, the better it will be.
This is pretty much the only way. People compare it with a way better medium until they realize how much they have to improve instead of crying on a stage.
@@fujiwarakeiichi5882 i wanna compare cause I want Genshin devs to do better.
As genshin player i approv this and for my fellow genshin player if u denied this u just nitpicking and bias
Its true WuWa QoL is insanely good and Genshin just feels like trash nowadays like the domains being closed on specific days is the one I hate the most. Also the lack of endgame (which I think they will add next patch but still) and the lack of new mechanics or coop, competitive? At least a boss raid ? hell even Guilds would be good but nope nothing in 4 years
absolutely
WuWa really is much better in terms of QoL, but I still enjoy playing Genshin more
nitpick? mintpick you mean 😂
@VeliaOwO
You forgot when farming in the over world and collecting chests in WuWa, you don’t pick up the items individually. They are instantly collected and enter right into your inventory.
This was one of the things that I never stopped hating about Genshin, why do we have this kind of physic?
yeah, like WHY THE HECK did the item jumped out of the chests ?
it doesn't make any sense, are there any springs or something like that in there ?
other games didn't do that
@ supposedly it was for a fun gimmick but it just became annoying after a bit :/
@@eriknurwahab2861 Lmao those spring that send the items flying off a cliff?? absolutely diabolical 💀
you forgot Wuwa doesn't need you to manually grab loot from killed enemies and treasure chests
wth is this lmaoooo (I never played genshin)
And looting in Genshin is more slower than looting in Zelda BOTW/TOTK by mashing the button.
@@aaronbarlianta because hoyo wants you to have longer playtime.
@@crint23 well said 😂
5 years in genshin, and still nothing with these:
1. access to buy previous 4* event weapons _(HSR has this)_
2. skip buttons for dialogue scenes _(ZZZ, TOF & WUWA have this)_
3. artifact loadouts _(WUWA is about to release echo loadouts)_
4. double artifact drops event _(not just double leyline and double talent books drops event)_ _(HSR, ZZZ & WUWA have this)_
5. claim weekly boss drops 3x a week from the same weekly boss of our choice_ _(WUWA & HSR have this)_
6. inter-conversion of weekly boss drops into another drop of a different boss _(Example: 1 Dvalin drop + 1 Boreas drop + (Dream Solvents) = 1 Signora drop)_ _(HSR has this)_
7. conversion of excess overworld boss drops into other overworld boss drops _(HSR has this)_
8. daily respawn of overworld ascension level-up mats _(WUWA has this)_
9. resin reserve overflow system _(ZZZ, WUWA & HSR have this)_
10. remove day-specific availability of artifact, weapon mats & talent books domains _(HSR & WUWA have done this)_
11. Katheryne tab so we don’t have to go to her to claim commission rewards every single day _(WUWA & HSR have this)_
12. fix layout of Teapot furniture buying list. it’s vertically sooooo long. even with filter settings, it’s still long.
13. better system rotation of rerun banners. chronicled banners region-locked isn’t enough of a solution.
14. portable crafting bench so we can craft condensed resin or anything anywhere _(HSR & WUWA have this)_
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There are more QoL changes needed. But Genshin devs are just the most tone-deaf.
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Also if you’re Genshill, don’t even start. You are the big reason why Genshin is outdated.
Just to add: ZZZ lets you farm weekly boss mats as much as you want - three times for free and the rest cost 60 energy. The downside being you only get 1 boss mat every round.
Great list! here's what I've compiled on my end from what I heard over the years:
*Updated list of what longtime Genshin players have been asking for (~5years):*
- *Loadouts* to save a few artifacts sets and weapons per character, should be up to 7-8 slots, at least one for each element type+add option to change element of MC anywhere in overworld
- *More repeatable and unrestricted SOLO & CO-OP permanent combat content* with customizable difficulty, buffs, de-buffs, NO TIMERS, etc. But also *more casual content* that is less reliant on Meta or character investments to have fun solo or with friends.
- *Resin overflow system* + condensed resin capacity increase
- *Retire the day locked domains for weapons and talents materials*
- *Togglable constellations* for content creators, testers, or people who want to try challenges
- *Epitomized Path for 4-stars* and more characters/weapons in the Starglitter shop
- *Old events (as optional DLC) to be re-playable for new players* and be able to experience *hidden/missed lore* and mini-games
- A way for *new players to acquire old event character signature weapons* in a shop
- More in-game *characters emote and animation for role-players* like; waving, clapping, sitting… (already exist in the game files and used in story quests)
- *Skip dialogue option for speedrunners*
- *Un-cap FPS on PC and Android* (We do not care if you made a deal with “apple”, fix this for the benefit of all travelers once and for all)
- *Add controller support for Android devices* (Same as previous... Use your army of lawyers and fix this injustice. This is anti-consumer and not inclusive for travelers around the world.)
- Clear *buff indicators with cool-downs* in the UI(user interface) and *hp bar for shields*
- Add *3 extra 10-pulls* (cost: 8 fates) to the /beginner's banner/ and make the *50th pull a guaranteed standard 5-star* character _(HSR already implemented this)_
- *FIX DEHYA.* Then address the *bug reports* on characters like Eula, Mona, Xinyan etc
i think for the combat content hoyo wouldn't want to make it "not rely on Meta" since they still gonna do powercreep old characters and make the new characters have some exclusive features...
@@ryokyko
@@ryokyko we will probably gonna wait about 10 years more before all of our suggestions are implemented. 😭
Honestly at first I was thinking WuWa needs that boss convert, then I remembered that we get more than enough anyways. Oh you forgot to mention by the way: WuWa lets you double the waveplate usage in domains and tacet fields for forced double rewarda
you can do 50 things genshin does WORSE than wuwa XD
That’s essentially the same video as you could just flip these points and say Genshin does them worse rather than wuwa does them better
@@sparkysatellite exactly XD
@@wuru-ivur that’s just a waste of time then…
@@wuru-ivurthe bills are not that high
@VeliaOwO I think you didn’t get the joke…
Okay, I’m not a former Genshin Impact player, but man, I feel bad for the OG and current players. The three-day respawn for flowers is frustrating, and farming materials on different days is such a hassle.
I understand that the standard and limited weapon are the same banner, but I hope Genshin Impact copy wuwa and implements similar improvements. It would be great if they added features like a skip function, unlimited stamina, parkour mechanics, grappling, and even flying-even if it’s region-locked.
I am, but honestly, I didn't think about it that much until it's said in the video. I can see the very reason why they did that, but it's still infuriating to think about.
Yeah i play both,upgrading new character and weapon is faster in wuwa.Genshin too time gated.You need to make a schedule since some upgrade item only available for specific day,but all available on saturday and sunday
@@matdan4576 This definitely. I came back to Wuwa 2 weeks ago and since then have upgraded about 5 characters to the highest I can at ascension phase 5. Highly doubt I could do that with Genshin.
@@iamnoone5960 genshin Devs are not talented to make that type of mechanics. The only reason the game got popular is because of covid otherwise no one plays that shi on the other side people already call wuwa a modern masterpiece so that says alot already
Hahaha, because of that 3 days respawn back then I have 2 alts account just for material farming, one playing on phone and main acc on PC. I have to plan which days I'm gonna farm for chaacter, even making alarm and reminder sometimes 😂
Comparing Genshin Impact and Wuthering Waves is beneficial as it motivates growth in both games, pushing developers to improve and innovate. It drives self-improvement, as each game refines mechanics, graphics, and storytelling to stay competitive.
Competition breeds excellence, as they say.
if only genshin devs werent a lazy slop and actually listens to their playerbase and improve their game.
Yes. New game coming soon. Wuwa would be compare to other new game as well. Looking at project mugen their traversal probably can be inspired for kuro as well. Who know I didn't mean transportation
This comment reads like it was written by AI. All comparing these games does is spark more arguments in the communities because those are the people that this content appeals to. You think the Genshin Impact dev team sits down and lunch and watches videos like this? The developers just code what the higher-ups of the company tell them to, they don't just get to add what they want, even if they can see it's a detriment to the game. The majority of people who watch these are people who just want to shit on others games they think are 'inferior' to the one they play (cough cough twitter)
There isn't even competition here because at the end of the day Genshin has been around for so long it has too many people who are either in too deep (sunk cost fallacy) or just a bunch of loyal people who think it's the best and get mad when others compare it. We can clearly see the decline in the quality of the game but so many still play it. It will be the same with Wuwa eventually (maybe not the decline in game quality, we don't know though). It already has a very aggressive side of the fan base who drool at the mouth even thinking about how they can compare it to other gatcha games. These videos are pointless unless they are formatted in a way to highlight good things both games do and leave a decision left to the viewer on what they want to play
@@br1tishbagelbut they didn't listen, they only cares about money 🤑💰
DaWei is crying while watching this.
😢😭
DaWei may Cry 5
and now every hoyo diehard fan is gonna tell everyone to stop making the sweet, innocent, pure, helpless billionaire cry!!
@@123newjersey3 that hurt ww instead gi. revenue go down day by day because they not introduce player they are totally different genshin. Did you know it? people not want start from zero on a similar game, ananta will destroy ww, then you know why zzz choose that concept
@ i have no idea what you are saying bro.
@@DartNguyen GBF vs FGO the oldest gacha competition back then if you look at them? what happen to one of the titles?
takes example GBF, the game never seen in any of your said fake revenue
but they keep improving, even having festival every year in japan, not to mention big project with AAA titles.
and are you even playing both of the games? WuWa and GI is totally different but still in the same genre
to add for aesthetic view
wuwa
1. npc's clothes 3d model is better. not just image. have depth for each accessories, clothes layers etc
2. exclusive npc have exclusive design
genshin
1. all npc 3d model just plain mob design. no depth etc. some stick to body
2. exclusive npc just have same model as mob npc. just twick the color palette. (ZZZ now have exclusive design for exclusive npc. HSR some)
genshin maybe late to realize this cuz they release earlier than wuwa. so maybe they continue follow what have done. many characters can have different design such as playable parents, Katheryne, Jeht and his father, Moon Carver, Mountain Shaper and other. but the cons is the players will demand them to be playable.
You right. They did made Cloud Retainer playable at least, but the devs could've done more & had the other two adeptus be playable as well.
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I wouldn't say The Captain deserves to be playable since he's revealed to be a Khanrian, and last I checked there's no playable character we have who's from an already destroyed civilization.
And they keep reusing the animation. The 'hand waving' is overused in cutscenes, which makes me bored as f.
@@BZUltimixKaeya bro
@@BlackCat-iw1kp The teppei face too
@ Kaeya from Khaenri'ah following the lore
I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HACE SCHEDULED DOMAINS
And then when I missed or forgot about it "Oh crap I have to wait for a few more days again!" This is why I'm lazy to build in Genshin
As a Genshin player 100% agreed .
Honestly Genshin could have been great
But greedy devs ruined it
You should do 50 more things WuWa does better than Genshin
real
@@Pengin6533 Allow me to help you:
1. Listen to players more
2. - 50. Is prettier
@@Propolis00 honestly another 50 would be good because of all the 50s, none mentions the combat.
Yup
😂😂😂😂 bro for real
There’s a big point. If you speak up in questionnaire in both games about improving your experience, guess who’s gonna listen and make changes, who’s not?
Comparing different games is actually pretty healthy for games: Game developers can see easier what another does better and how they can improve their game(s), also they can take inspiration and ideas for next updates and content. They can also avoid mistakes that another one did, or fix them before it's too late
Climbing in Genshin: depletes too much stamina and can't climb further
Climbing in WuWa: S P I D E R M A N
i like most of the comments ain't even bothered to point out one of these 50 things, because they knew that it is factually better and just resorted to "why keep comparing?"
You could even do 50 Things HSR did better than Genshin because of the lack quality the game has given for 4 years. This game breeds tribalism from the very first moment it was born, just look at the elitism between HI3rd and Genshin back then, and the whole "Genshin could never" joke started during HSR release, this game is already problematic before Wuwa even exist, and frankly Wuwa just make those problems broaden to more players.
Also adventuring in wuwa is so comfortable u got grapple, flight (only in rinascita), wallrun, echo that makes u go faster, the paws from white cat event, etc
Genshin made me realised you can scam idiots broad daylight and get away with it.
Its not that , genshin has a normal casual gameplay and more deep dive story thats why people play it
in some aspect is it worth it. i was a dolphin player and i dont play anymore, and teh main reason is that 1) the story is very dense, and too much at one time 2) the lack of qol in the game 3) lack of end game ( i never really 36 star the abyss, but its so stale. in hsr you can js skip the entire thing and get your jades)
@xishqi till 4.8 update After that 💀
@@xishqi the story is shit btw, and yes I'm a first day player when Klee first released
First day release is Venti @@uchihaobito223
Make it 51, Inferno Rider
owo
52, Inferno Rider echo skin
@@Ayoki_an_idi0t53: Nightmare Inferno Rider, so fun to use
@@Ayoki_an_idi0techo skins itself. like the custimaztion aspect in wuwa makes it way better
Best boss theme in the game ngl
1:44 genshin has Character materials Marking system
Note : You're missing something about number 49 (5:30) in wuwa. The flight stamina can be increased by completing region's exploration progress, completing all exploration increases the stamina by a lot, making travel distances even further. And if you use Carlotta in your team (if you activated her 2nd forte skill), the flight stamina consumption decreases by 20%, making flight 20% longer.
:) sound like you not play genshin. It totally same. Even genshin have a lot of food and item to imrrprove stamina. And can fly from ground
@@DartNguyen you're missing the point here, it's about the distance and improvement in the flying stamina gauge which WUWA have and genshit didn't, btw you can you the grappling and flying from the ground
@@DartNguyenlol, it's not the non-permanent temporary buff
it's the permanent increase in your flight stamina, at the moment you can fly you only have ~7s boost or 14s glide
if you max it out it'll have ~14s boost or 28s glide by default without any buff.
and other temporary buff will be add to that which can stretch me to ~20s boost & 35s glide
i play both and i know genshin doesn't have that
and although it's limited, some WW char that has plunge atk can self start fly from ground. yangyang can self start on my end
@ red feather fan boost my fly speed and Wind Catcher help me fly from the ground. why people noit talk about that stuff which ww not have .And what new with improve stamina permanent by exploration ? is that basic gameplay of genshin. i still dont get it. Guys, common you glazing them so much, but this is nothing great or even different here
@@DartNguyen
GI fan boost only for 30s, wind cather need to search for anemogarna holds only 5 at a time, both has 100s cooldown, which is bonkers to me from day 1. i have to wait minutes to use again?? wut? why?? tell me. untill then ill just teleport.
in WW i can also fly from ground just like GI as well 24/7 without searching for anything, right away hundreds of time. i also don't need any high ground or cliff as stated in video while speed boost is already there by default because it uses your stamina, the full boost time is 14s untill you have to either latch to a wall, stingray, or land. 4s cooldown/stamina Refill time. if you're blind, this 4s is faster than 100s. and I don't need to wait for the red fan buff to get speed boost again.
in GI i can kinda fly for a long time as long as saurian is within reach but it's still hard because the red saurian is not always be there, rng let's say 5050 chance
longest fly time i had in WW is 9 MINS without touching the ground, flying from rinasita to fangaea peninsula (castle) and back. how? that flying stingray, if you latch onto it it'll bring u up an altitude and fully recover your flight stamina and it spreads across the land.
my friend literally flew for 20mins straight without touching the ground circling all new regions which can be done infinitely if you have time to waste
you better play both 1st to have a feel and i can really WW is way more easier to fly. this is coming from 1200 days day 1 GI player and day 1 WW player
The thing is, Genshin is earning more, but their players are getting less.
Meanwhile Wuwa is earning less, but their players are getting more, and are more happy in playing this game.
I prefer the second one.
"Why do wuwa players always compare their game to genshin"
Because we can, our game is superior and we have the right to brag about it? If you think your game is better then show the proof. As someone said Wuwa ruling gacha meanwhile genshin ruining gacha
that's wild lol
Plus they are also the one who insulted it as "genshin copy" first (like legit hoyotards will accuse any games that has similar feature as "genshin copy" even if the game exists before genshit)
Remember how they also sending hate messages in WuWa's 2.0 update livestream and attacking neutral CCs for criticizing genshit
So basically if they insult WuWa then we will just rub anything WuWa does better to their faces
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 if you are ex genshin players then use that account and join someone's world and insult them. It's so fun ruining these hoyoshills day
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 if you are ex genshin player then login to that account and join a random persons world and keep insultingthem. It's funny seeing these hoyoshills dayruined
@@quanlinglingdingle6122they are jealous of wuwa quality and wuwa's revenue, that's why they show fake numbers trying to hide wuwa at the last. It's not even a year and people are already calling it a modern masterpiece, THAT IS WUWA. Proud to be a wuwa fan
I remembered the time when i have to open a browser to see an interactive map, while you can just track shits down in wuwa 😭
50 shades of glazing
and I absolutely love it
Switching from genshin to wuwa must feel like a caterpillar metamorphosing into a butterfly.
YES YES YOU GET IT
Not really. 1)It's harder to farm echoes than it is to farm artifacts.
2) Puzzles in Genshin are better.
3) Music is better in Genshin.
4) Genshin is more fantasy-like.
5) Genshin is better for casual players.
6) Wuwa also reuses NPC models but they do have slightly more variety.
@@phones961O2 harder to farm echoes than it is artifacts…you have got to be joking with that one. Sure it may be more grindy but its not like you need to spend resin (waveplates) on every single piece 😭
Puzzles are inconsequential and can honestly be boring from my experience.
Give you the music, I still don’t have tracks that compete with Sumeru in WuWa but I have hope.
WuWa seems to do a lot more for npcs compared to Genshin I’ll be honest.
Genshin may be better for casual players but the longer they play the more experienced they become and it can get boring.
Both are fantasy, Genshin just does High Fantasy whereas WuWa does Fantasy and Sci-fi BUT we do have concept of a region that forbids technology so maybe that can shed some light in the future
@@phones961O2 It's harder to farm echoes than it is to farm artifacts?? ARE WE PLAYING SAME GAME? I BUILT MY ROCCIA IN 2 DAY WHILE I'M STIL FARMING FOR ARLECCHINO AND IT'S BEEN 5 MONTH? DON'T DEFEND THE SH**TY ARTIFACT SYSTEM OF GENSHIN. EVEN THE CRAFTING TABLE GIVES NOTHING. CLEARING TACET FIELDS GIVES A LOT ECHO THAN GENSHIN'S STU**D ARTIFACT TREE
as someone who is currently leveling my teams to 90, the only things i dislike is how much credit (shells i think?) you spend when leveling, and echo exp is also very scarce
For now flying is region locked in WuWa as well, it's still free for all characters though. One major flaw in WuWa is the fact that Echos require almost double the amount of stamina ( XP tubes and tuners), unused and unlevelled echos cannot be used as fodder. Given the staggering percentage for them to turn into unusable rubbish, this kinda erase the advantage of farming echos without spending stamina. Just to be intellectually honest, i like WuWa, but I ain't blind nor stupid.
Yeah even people who like wuwa know that the echo system is far from being perfect, but atleast you can farm them indefinitely
@@srijeetbanerjee5401 I hope Kuro improves the echo system, tbh, not with temporary events, but with better droprates of tubes, OR letting the player use echos as fodder, OR lowering the stamina cost. Lucklily is Kuro and not YoYoverse, there's a bit of hope.
Yeap, echo farming and grinding still ass 🤣🤣
when you think about it region locked flying is essentional cuz your old map is not suitable (like many quest would broke with flying abilty)
It is still infinitely better than Genshin's system where you need to roll 5 different pieces of one specific set for one specific character out of two sets from one of 50 specific domains, there is a chance you won't even get an artifact of needed set much less the needed piece with the needed main stat and needed substat, it can roll into the bad stat rendering it subpar or useless
WuWa system is not perfect cause any randomized system is kinda bull...But I equip my characters WAY faster than in Genshin, beyond faster. It isn't so bad if you level up in increments, this way you can roll your wanted 2-3 stats and then take it all the way cause it will then be usable. Even though you can roll less or more of one stat, there is less layers of randomness from my experience...
5:50 not just while climbing or gliding. Wuwa allows switching too while swimming.
And flying
Stagnant impact. 😅
😂😂🤣🤣
Don't forget about stingy impact.
I recently played wuwa for 1 day and already gets 3 ssr (standard) which says a lot about stingy impact.
Wuwa players: Wuwa is better because... *Literally brings up 50 things that are objectively better in Wuwa.
Genshin players: Genshin is better because It's Genshin!
You can get 2 free 5 stars standard characters, in two separated banners when you begin playing, not just 1. One is of your choice, the other one is casual.
And you can get 2 free 5 stars standard weapons, not 1. One is gifted in the beginners weapons banner (you can select whatever you prefer to get), and the other one is gifted at Union Level 45, and you can select the one you want.
The standard weapons banner allows you to pick a 5 stars standard weapon, so when you select that weapon you are guaranteed to get that weapon within 80 pulls. And then you can select another one if you want after, or get more of the others to refine them.
They also gifted a limited 5 stars character, but it was time limited.
Lastly, you can swap characters even when swimming, not just gliding and flying, and you can use grapple to get you out of the water.
There are also more things, but they are a lot so I understand it's difficult to include them all.
Good video btw!👍
Speaking of free limited 5* character, I can't hold my laugh while thinking about Alloy. She can't even function like a normal character (no constellation, boring kit). On the other hand, we have Xiangli Yao in WuWa, a very good DPS, a true 5* resonator. Save a whole 80 pulls and a guarantee for the next resonator that you like or go for his gauntlet if you want. I can't even believe Kuro do this.
@nekonie7874 yeah, same here. I really love this company. And they will surely keep growing and improving in the future.
@@nekonie7874ok to be fair that was sony being needy, I don’t blame genshin for that
Love to see Wuthering Waves get recognition.
It's hard for many to play due to hardware limitations.
yeah true but as time passes it will get accessible to most players
if your device cant run wuwa its probably a you issue coz I build my pc in 2022 with a budget of 500usd and it runs wuwa great
Going to need to update this video after 2.1 drops.
Another banger video as usual, keep it up!
we must maintain the agenda at all costs. gonna have to sub. keep it up.
I felt like cheating when I moved from Genshin to WuWa. I started Genshin on it's 2nd Update and WuWa from it's launch day.
I can think of one more thing: Wuwa's MC feels like a real MC. They are meaningfully strong and have several voice lines in story quests, with more emotions on their faces/actions too. Genshin's MC feels like an NPC more than MC. They are easily forgettable, having all the spotlight stolen by Paimon, and now Lumine just disappeared from all the official videos, because why not.
It hasnt been a year since Wuwa release and it already have so much more and better QoL than Genshin in upcoming 5 year anniversary. Great Wuwa and Genshin comparison. And such a underrated channel :o.
Also to note about the 8th Reason: the overflow mechanic is also like this in HSR, BUT it doesn't allow me to transfer my 2400 Reserves while my Trailblaze power is still full. I have to use all the energy up first & then refill it over & over again, while in WuWa I can just overcap it every 2 days or so.
I think you may have to do a part 2😂
Wuwa and zzz have enough small insignificant little add ons on their respective games that enhance the playing experience and shows that they care about their characters a bit more than HSR and Genshin.
Might want to add gearing loadouts (echo loadouts) to that list after that Wuthering Waves livestream yesterday
Imagine if wuwa somehow also add pvp ......
It’s actually 48 hours which is 2 days for local specialties in Genshin, otherwise this video is accurate.
Really nice and very objective. You can only be a real hater if you get angry with this
You can actually swap characters while flying also.
You can backflipped in wuwa
Tbh Natlan compass is arguable better because it shows now not only chests but trials as well. I wish lootmapper showed puzzles too
That's how all the treasures compass in Genshin work now. They got buffed.
Bro woke up and chose violence 😅
- There is no paimon.
- Both light and dark Rover a decent character, if you don't have Jihnsi or Camelliya to cover dps slot. All Travelers are dogshit, well dendro was okayish.
- Abby did infinitely more in 1/billionth of Paimon screen time who is still don't have reason to exist in the story.
- And there is no Paimon
- WuWa actually know how to code quests, so no "Character X is busy, please finish that first".
- 4-stars has fancy zoom in for ults too.
- Also no Paimon.
Im sure most of veteran genshin players will agree
Cause we know what kinda crap we been treated to
Video should have been named "50 reasons why Genshin will never".
51 : New update at new region let you grabhook an Casket (Anemoculus, Electroculus,....) and fly into it instead forced to own some certain characters has special ability to get them
52 : Loot/ drop after defeat monsters auto collect instead manual pick
its soo easy to build characters in just days given if u farmed for the weekly boss, I get to actually enjoy the character instead of wasting away days just to farm domains
5:45 thats not even unlocking full flight meter btw
Yeah, and it literally just takes 25% area completion in each area in rinascita to max it out, barely takes 2 hours
Why is there a Lampy Lumen Myriad and a Inferno Rider now😭😭 are there going to be TH-cam channels for every boss😂
@@piba8286yes I saw the turtle at one point
47 seems a problem because its a feature locked in Rinascita but please Kuro, make a license for it like how we can use lootmapper and sonar casket in other regions.
This is the first video I have seen that is pretty accurate and is not just bait.
now if we only have a infinite bike characters mavuika was such a scam imo
As a former GI player, i think 50 is not enough. E.g. in ww, i can easily double claim reward without condensed resin. I used to catch a lot of fking crystalfly and trust me, that's not fun at all
49 is half meter, if u play u double the size of ur initial fly stamina
Also Mc is high tier and all characters have ult animation.
You can buy resonator's level up materials with shells weekly, you don't need to stress out searching a lot of flowers through the map but that doesnt mean you couldn't explore it.
51: You can double jump in wuwa 😂
At least Genshin has Dawei May Cry.
While Kuro just has a CEO who always listens to players and improves their game.😏
So, Genshit is better...
...in your dream.
Some minor correction, the flying feature seems to only work on 2.0 map, not sure if is it a bug or not.
It is, basically still being region locked.
Depends on the players' voice through surveys, Kuro might enables flight gadget to all region.
double claiming domain rewards without needing to craft or hunt for those fairy thingies. Daily commissions consist of one quest instead of 4. Which are objectively faster on a one by one comparison and have skippable dialogue. Skippable dialogue has summaries. Trivial fights in domains on top of double claim keeps time spent on stamina dailies short. Wall running. You can plunge attack without needing elevation. The game has dark soul difficulty bosses which is better for the hardcore demographic. Your characters automatically vault over objects as they run. WuWa does not lock movement options behind character gacha like Genshin does but instead makes them available for everyone. WuWa does not hide sonance caskets from the minima based on height unlike genshin oculus. WuWa has illusive realm, a rogue lite that allows you to play characters in unconventional ways.
I could go on but I think it's enough 😅
You could do a part 2 for this video lol that just shows how many things WuWa does better than genshin
Agree on this as a wuwa player, but I am actually looking forward to the what genshin did better as I do know there are parts they did well
elemental reactions is very fun and cool concept design i use to love those vape,reversed vape, shattered, cyro combo back then but devs sleep on it, dendro comes out and cryo,physical,geo is dead
@max78966 when i first played gi on release that was hella awesome, like the combination and things you can do woth it, sadly you right on the last part
If you want to see more elemental reaction, there was this game, br, called spell break, and it was amazing on the combos of each element. I think if executed well, the elemental reaction could be improved on much better, tho in the open world gacha space, yeah genshin takes the elemental reaction on this
@ brother right now if the devs focused more on depth of elemental reactions and freedom of expressions through your characters and more good endgame GI would bounce back so hard
GI combat system, compared to WuWa, is much more flexible and allows more team comps. WuWa combat system is interesting, but it cages the player in very specific team compositions, outside of wich the teams simply don't work. Mind you, one can easily ignore the optimisation and have fun with wacky teams, but rotations and outputs become much more cluncky to operate than GI. Also 4* weapons in GI are, again, much more flexible and some of them are almost on par with 5*, while in WuWa, 4* weapons, even the BP ones, have a stark 30-40% lower performance than 5* . To think that in GI one can even use very efficiently free 3* weapons, the comparison becomes even more brutal. What is ruining GI is the management that refuses to really improve the game, hence why WuWa is taking hold rapidly among players.
@@RejectedInch i would respectfully disagree with that statement on gi being flexible as you do need specific elemental reactions to get the most out of it, locking you in specific team comps as well. Especially if one relies on it
On wuwa it does also do the same by making you team support, sub dps and main dps so its not out of the question on locking in teams
Basically both to get the most of it in both games you have to do specific teams with what you have, or you can disregard any team comps since genshin has 4 character team and wuwa has a bit of something to add as well in their own way
The 4* seems to be balanced (my experience) as there are stats that are not on the 5* like crit rate thats i think is found on bp weapons, tho that was short lived due to wuwas gacha making it a guaranteed weapon banner
If we are talking about combat system as well i do have to add other things from wuwa, and I do hope you also add from genshin (assuming you are very familiar with their combat system) in case i miss some
What i can add from wuwa side is
Parry, dodge, counter attack, intro and outro skill, echoes
On what iam familiar on genshins combat system is
Elemental reactions, i know theres a little bit of dodge, but one that takrs the cake over wuwa is genshins shield mechanics
Overall, i do acknowledge what you are saying, and may have my own opinion that is different from yours, as to me, wuwa has a bit more to offer in combat
on point 49: That flying part was only when you boost yourself constantly. You only need to boost when you need to gain a bit more speed to not touch the low ground or gain attitude. I flew the whole Rinascita map with only having to refill air stamina twice, and with great conditions, one can fly almost the whole place without touching the ground.
And a few more things not mentioned enough:
- The world changes as you progress, and you can see exactly where and how it changed,
- Worldbuilding via NPCs and their dialogues (more prominent in 2.0)
- Daily quests that's utilized in both world-building and keeping balance between fight and leisure activities,
- Characters' details in animation and in action,
- COMBAT (HOW DID YOU NOT EVEN MENTION THIS THING YET???)
- Permanent events (events that contributes both lore and character's story, unlike the previous lantern festivals with Scaramouche)
- Male characters. I'm a guy, but...
- Shorekeeper's domain. I love Genshin's Sakura Cleansing Ritual sidequest and I think it did more justice to the worldbuilding of Inazuma, but having a mask that I can neither wear or keep in my inventory at all is a shame (Even worse when it turned into a blueprint of a weapon, which not only makes the character's quest more ironic, but also tragic). On the other hand, Kuro did not have to give me an entire domain as an extra to the main story quest, but damn. A beautiful place, beautiful music, and Shorekeeper right next to me playing the piano. This unironically made me cry for an entire afternoon.
And I haven't even covered everything yet.
The world changes in genshin as well as you progress more? Since you don't know that, I'll tell you that. Not to mention that genshin works on elemental reactions so some people prefer that instead of dodge and parry? But yes, the combat in wuwa is faster, I'll agree, still it depends on what you like? The graphics of both games are good, it's just the art style that's different so choose whatever you prefer. Npc in genshin doesn't progress the stories? Hello? Teppei is just one example by the way, since wuwa players seem to have forgetful memory. Also, as many things mentioned in the video are stupid, I like hearing Katherine's "Ad Astra Abyssosque" because when I returned to genshin, it gave me a weird sense of nostalgia that wuthering waves never did, however I do realize the only thing wuwa does way better is being more kind, as there's guaranteed weapon banners etc but people will glaze any games if it keeps giving them free stuff, genshin has been improving on that with more rewards and free 5 stars so I don't think the game bothers me that much, the world building in genshin is clearly better IDC what anyone says but yes, the only thing which I actually liked in wuwa more than genshin is climbing being way easier, that's literally it tbh, other than that I've continued to enjoy both games and it feels like y'all just overreact since it's just a game
@@sakshamv26 worldbuilding is nothing if the world youre playing in is dead.
teppei was cool until i remembered that they couldnt be bothered to give him a unique model, which wuwa has in spades. if have felt more for the guy if paimon shut up and let me mourn. jokes aside, its still harder to feel for a guy who wears the same face as everyone else. (also offtopic but i went through GIs npc wiki and saw that Ei was listed as an NPC😭its been years and we still dont get to hear her speak in the overworld as a playable character)
the world is built pretty decently, sure. but then you get to the severe word bloat genshin impact suffers from.
you CANNOT say, with a straight face that genshin is "improving" with free rewards. thats the biggest joke ive heard since natlans release. a single free 5 star from their illustrious list of worthless units. how generous...
do i have to remind you what they did for mavuikas banner? how was that, by the way? you gonna excuse blatant corporate greed and anti-consumer behaviour too?
"people will glaze games if it gives them free stuff" naww really? fr? ong? its almost like when a company shows respect for you, the player, you respect both the game and compnay more. good faith is a powerful resource that hoyoverse are running out of with every update they push that shows that they arent listening and that they dont care.
wuwas weapon banner is how it SHOULD be. lets not forget genshin people have a certain bald man to thank for the weapon banner not being as bad as it could be in GI.
wuwa has only been out for 8 months. of course you wouldnt be nostalgic yet. and its not like you have to go visit the same npc every day to collect your dailies. you can just yoink it from the menu. BUT, ngl, i wouldnt be opposed to having a someone to go to optionally.
@Rain64 I don't get why are people crying over mauvika's banner placement so much tbh, at least GI has more male characters unlike wuwa, not to mention that you can set the crowd density in settings, just like wuwa? What the fuck is this dumb debate? Not to mention that your certain "bald man" used to glaze this same game because at that time this game was the OG and made the weapon banner like that, of course wuwa came so much later so it will try to observe and improve? Genshin still changed the weapon banner fate points from 2 to 1, also they have been improving a lot, ever since fontaine which had melusines in it and natlan, which actually has decent looking NPCs with respect to the art style, y'all just compare things which are so small and cry about it when you forget that genshin did it first and wuwa literally copied most of the idea and made some changes just to please the customers, it's still a gacha, they will still hope to get whales, not to mention that it's annoying how WuWa is more generous for 5-star pulls but sucks due to the 4 star pulls being so high cost in the shop so Genshin's lower 4-star costs balance things out better in the long run (I'm talking about starglitter and resonance crystals here and you can do the damn calculations if you don't believe me) and oh, you wanna talk about bugs? How about so many bugs that existed on wuwa's release despite the fact that it was released so late and they kept apologising for the ages and the hungry fan base didn't even care about the issues, they just kept grabbing the free astrites and thought "oh wuwa is so generous" bruh I literally had to log out of my account one time due to a bug in thaw of eons quest
As someone who enjoys both games, each of them has pros and cons but y'all tectone meatriders have been acting like it's trash now when he's clearly a fakeass, bro hated on genshin for so long but when 5.0 came out, he was so speechless and ended up clearly faking the hate and even HIS own fanboys called him out on it with comments like "when the game does bad, we hate, but when it does something so good, we give props, right?" And other sarcastic things, he's just a streamer who keeps shifting off games and wants to earn money from DRAMA but y'all ain't ready for that
I'll still agree that wuwa's NPCs (as a whole) look better but genshin makes up for it easily by having saurians in natlan, melusines in Fontaine (as I said, they have been improving in their own way) not to mention the underwater exploration, and quality of life? Dragonspine, chasm, etc have been there since the beginning as one of the best exploration areas which wuwa hasn't come close to, yet
I'll still agree that climbing is way better in wuwa and flying is great too (even tho area is limited) it's still great and I won't act like I don't recognise what wuwa has done better
Still, y'all cry too much about things which don't matter at all lmao
@@sakshamv26 ive played both games since launch. i only started playing genshin less around end of fontaine, then dropped completely after just spending all i had saved up on mavuika since i had decided it will be the last time i bother with the game for a while. i have my crowd density on MAX at all times, and yes, genshins world at a lot of points is still dead and not very alive. at least not as alive as wuwas rn.
i think the point the fella above was trying to make was that youll see old NPCs again in other regions or areas post quests. youll see the cute couple from mt firmament in rinacsita doing well, there are a few quests where youll get npcs that have their own character progression and it shows in the actual world itself. if theres something similar in GI, let me know. its small things yes, but its small things like these that make a world feel more alive. me calling genshins world dead was an opinion. you saying genshins worldbuilding is great is also an opinion and one i kinda agree with.
part of the reason im hypercritical about genshin is becuse i do love the game and i want it to improve. if theres any sort of a trend with hoyogames in general, the moment they have their players spending and hooked consistently after a few versions, youll begin to notice a decline in actual effort they put back into their games.
from a my point of view, realistically, if you even give it an ounce of thought, why would i continue spending money or wasting time on a game that does not respect neither me or my time as a player? i can understand that it wont be everyones view, but i know MANY other players probably share my viewpoint.
with the mavuika banner thing, its about the precedent it sents for the company and game as a whole. it was greedy and not really customer friendly to do that. just reinforces that hoyoverse do not care about the players and just wanna milk more of that sweet revenue at the cost of player satisfaction. again, company good faith is a powerful resource and with every decision like this that genshin makes, it runs out.
more BOYS is something i ask for every survey but dont forget that genshin has been out for longer so im willing to give me more time, so ill give you that one.
but i WILL say that wuwas male character designs moggs genshins in every way (opinion) ill still never forgive them for ittos noodle arms.
ill also add that 4 star weapon opitions in wuwa are an issue that still needs adressing for now.
i didnt use bald man to glaze wuwa. i used bald man as an example for how the genshin weapon banner has been terrible for years. he got insanely unlucky and they ended up changing it. you can call me a bald dude glazer all you want, he may HATE genshin but set that aside and youll realise that quite a bit of what hes saying is actually sound. and what makes him a fakeass? hes probably sunk more money into this game than this entire comment section combined. ragebaiter as he may be, if hoyofans werent so profitable to piss off, hed probably be doing something else....or going back to piss of AK fans?
what are you on about? natlan npcs are just more of the same reskins with the odd extra little bling they give a few characters.
wuwa has indeed been observing and improving and for that it DESERVES praise. its time for hoyoverse to do the same because its money is up but unfortunately the actual quality just isnt there
im sorry, but why is free stuff an issue?
(ill also consider myself blessed i did not encounter a single bug at all while playing wuwa throughout my 8-ish months of playing)
we do give genshin props. it just hasnt done anything worth giving props to for a while. dragonspine was years ago, fontaine has come and gone and we cant keep coasting on its "greatness" forever when we're in a whole new region now.
dragonspine was mid for me, underwater exploration was decent and something new but the honeymoon phase wore off quick. i WILL say that fontaine was genshins peak (even though im a shameless inazuma shill) and even though my opinion on genshin was declining at that time i wont lie and say fontaine was anything other than pretty damn amazing, the chasm was extremely forgettable for me but i LOVED enkanomiya. some of these things might be small to you but bigger to someone else. both has pros and cons, yes. but as it stands right now, come 2.0, wuwa has MORE pros than cons when it comes to your average player and its not a crime to point that out like you people seem to make it out to be.
there are things genshin has done first, yes, but dont act like they own the rights to basic systems. mfs will see an open world and still compare it to genshin, which is why id also like to point out that it really isnt wuwa fans who started this comparison craze to begin with. hoyofans were doing this since before wuwas launch and then it got worse post launch. then as kuro games kept working on their game and actually trying to make it better with each update, chosing innovation over stagnation, we're at a point where 8 months into wuwa, 2.0 is making genshin impacts age and the lack of dev care show severely. and now all of a sudden its a problem to make comparisons.
if its in your nature to just sit back and enjoy, then do that. but dont come over here, trying to lecture people who have every right to not be satisfied and make their comprisons. you are part of the problem. and hey! if you think both are as good as eachother than thats fine too.
if its about the store where you can buy 4 star characters and wavebands, id still consider it better, if i remember correctly, (do correct me if im wrong), but genshin has a random rotation for 4 stars every month where wuwa just lets you buy the whichever 4 star is featured currently on the banner, which i prefer, i think
@@sakshamv26 y know how big of an assumption you made by saying how people who plays WuWa is a Tectone meatrider?
Plus, I've played this game before. You are right on most points, but only if you limit yourself to the point of playing a small mobile phone game. Not bad, but needs more, and the "more" is behind a slot machine, not a permanent given.
And speaking of the permanent given...dude. It's right there. 2 new 5-stars at the same time. WuWa so far only did that twice, and it's either a new character with one old rerun, or 2 old characters rerun. And the placement? Doesn't it sounds bad that you only get more materials to pull after the banner's duration?
And your point in areas like Mt. Dragonspine, it's an one time thing. If you have something just like that in the next few updates for each regions, that's awesome, but no such place exists. Inazuma was too hard, Sumeru was too big of a place, Fontaine wasn't even challenging, and Natlan...yeah. Sure as hell not Dragonspine.
We're probably crying too much, but for people like you most of the time. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
Wuwa is gonna get more things genshin could never
bro forgot about unlimited stamina
no constellation C3 or C5 which is only level up skill and burst which we get at very high price
also most of S rank character in wuwa are crack on their C0 but in genshin most character skill are locked behind their C1 C2 or so on
good list but there's like at least 50 more I can think of as a former GI player
Day one player on both games until this very moment and I'll have to say I agree with this video 100%.
Day one WuWa player. Joined Genshin around Inazuma middle I think? Left half way into Sumeru’s versions. Enjoyed Sumeru a lot…but not enough to torment myself (more)
Just play whatever you like its all subjective in the end
Wuwa has the advantage on launch as they can look at genshin's failures as an easy warnings
Yes they have. But they will have a mich harder time gathering players as most of the gacha game community is already playing GI
But Wuthering waves saw their own failures on their 1.0 release and improved it on their new updates so what is stopping Genshin from learning from their mistakes and improve their game?
Hoyo already knew genshin failures. But they decided to implement it in their newer games..
Until, GI has direct competition..
@@omeganoelf.6173
Themselves
Skip button? To ZZZ
Find treasures easier? Topaz and The Herta
genshin make absurd amount of money have have 5 years of head start to fix and upgrade their qol. and what do we get a barely minimum stamina upgrade, 1 extra endgame, a stories with too much yapping that doesn't straight to the point.
"B-But Genshin crush Wuwa in sales" So? That doesn't mean it's better game last year top sales is filled with EA slops FIFA game or CoD with Elden Ring which is GoTY ranked only at 9
Been on a hiatus from Genshin since 5.3 dropped & Rinascita came out. Really good timing. Planning on trying 5.5, but Hoyo's really compromising that decision altogether.
Forgot about wall running and proper dungeons to farm exp items instead of freaking flowers all around the map
The existence of wuwa itself is a better genshin😂 a new stuff will always be better than an old stuff...
Great job of enumerating reasons why WuWa is much much much much better.
Number 1 and 2: grappling hook and wall running
as a both player of GI and WuWa, the 1 thing that makes WuWa better than GI (for me) is having overflow energy/resin what its called in WuWa, Im working 6 days a week 8hrs a day and there are time that Im just really tired to even play the game, there are times Im just forced to log-in for the sake of monthly.
having overflow is really a big deal for me specially for a game that revolves around building your characters(applied to HSR, WuWa and GI), it reallt buffles me that playerbase is calling GI a casual game yet it doesnt have the most basic casual QoL should have.
I just hope that in the future, WuWa devs remove the 480 cap and should atleast make it like HSR.
also last one, stay strong fellow Zani simps, Im still waiting for drip marketing
51. The game auto-picks up loot after you defeat an enemy or open a chest.
How much stuff I left behind because I played WuWa first and was used to not having to pick everything up.
you missed:
51. Waveplates regenerate much faster than resin
WuWa: 1 every 6 minutes
GI: 1 every 8 minutes
52. Every single character have more details
WuWa: Eye moves, Max Forte Effects, Damaged characters when low HP.
GI: *dead especially ayaka*
53. Better animations, you can't argue, it's true, not even bias.
54. Being able to track pretty much every single chest in Rinascita.
Some of these design elements like the leveling material streamlining, are even present in Star Rail which really goes to show how Genshin being first also meant it made the most mistakes in design and QoL that other games learned to avoid.
Im still wishing for the day when devs realise the whole relic rng system is bad and needs to stop. That's something wuwa and Star Rail failed at, so I just hope future games don't do it
They know that its bad, but not for them.
I didn’t notice how high quality WuWa is as an ex GI player. Thank you for this video. ❤❤❤
I never knew about the F-to collect all. I'm so stupid now 😂
LMAO same genshin conditioned us to just spam
Best part? Genshin still has a bigger playerbase and makes more money
no one asked or cares about that, i don’t think genshin wants a medal for being more predatory
Still trash. I play both games and i can easily say Wuwa is better. I started playing genshin at 1.2 update. As a veteran, based on these 4 years of Genshin torture, I'm saying torture because there is no action or excitement in the game anymore and the fact that all the characters are fanservice made me even more disgusted with the game. And the part that I call torture is that every time I give this game and its producer a chance as a player, they abuse it and alienate me from the game. I want them to listen to me as a player and i can say that NONE of them listening to players like Kuro games does. The GI devs are NOT even trying to make it better. And the GI fans are so sticky, yet they criticize wuwa without giving it a chance or even playing... And don't forget, I'm crossing it out here that the genshin was there for 4 years. It's funny that a 4-year-old game still hasn't been able to listen to its player base and improve itself. While in the other hand, Wuthering Waves is a game that is only 8 months old and if you have played it, you will understand how it values its players.
Cuz all of them are idiots lol
Literally every gacha player should give it a chance especially after 2.0 patch. The mentioned 44 (missing exploration can be seen from the map) and flight features really got it so far. While playing Wuwa it doesn't feel like it's your daily job or so, it gives pleasure rather. I don't even care about it's story but if Genshin continues like this I'm gonna end up with quitting genshin for a while till any character appeal to me, and completely focus on Wuwa which is currently the most playable gacha game from my view.
Wtf i can change my mc gender??
I once cried on reddit about wanting to change my Genshin mc gender i got so many people who oppose that idea saying it will kill the immersion of the story even though i said iam ok with it. There were also so many that want that feature.
I might be attacked by kurobots for saying this but let's just make it clear. The vast majority of players' issues with genshin are QoL related and everyone values such things differently by their own preferences. For someone it could be a deal breaker, others might not even pay it any mind and focus instead on the actual content. It's not like people are against those improvements but rather they could feel inconsequential. And at the same time there are real issues like absence of the end game yet people demand changes of material domains and other stuff that literally doesn't matter in a long run.
It all depends on that co-op spiral abyss esque endgame. If its permanent they may stand a chance after giving more of what people want. If they make it limited…well
@@HahvuVT hard to say. Even if the devs are planning to make it permanent it doesn't feel much different from spiral abyss for now. But we'll see.
@@Pure_Random the difference is this one is co-op which is something many Genshin players wanted. However if they make this limited like their usual events, they’re gonna be in hot water
@@Pure_Random and considering WuWa is implementing something similar seemingly a day later? Of Genshin’s update? Oof
Bro, just qol fliying is enough for me to leave genshin fully. Every time i fly in wuwa, my face was like that "sweet relief" meme 😌😌 finally, i can fly without babibubebo
Not to forget u need 3 whole mont to finish characters talent in genshin what a joke
Cool, now make a list of the 1000 things Genshin does better like all the lore, character, story, writing, dept and other aspects
You named 5 things, name atleast half of 1000 things genshin does better. If they exist.
@Canterella if I used the same logic he used which is picking the most random minute things like skins i mean how mamy people care about skins, a thousand will probably pop up, but even if a game does 50 things better than the other one but the other does 10 better when the 10 things are a thousand times better its still gona be the better game
@@tunderblood Ok Name the ten things then.
@Canterella Lore, characters with actual depth and thought put behind them instead of being incel bait for discord mods, story with actually engaging plot and moments, music, cutscenes, Environment in some regions, optimization, males, More accessibility, less bugs like i can actually quit genshin and it won't log me out so I'll have to relog every time I go back in unlike wuwa, this has been an issue ever since release and it still persists and if anyone says a lot of these are objective if anyone made a poll about these things about 70% would probably vote for genshin
Just love the game which you can play after a hard day of work.
Please, tell us what Genshin does better (for players) than WuWa. I can think of one thing, which is faster boss respawn, but aside from that it's really hard to think of something, so it would be interesting to find out.
What genshit does better :
-music (starting to become stale and 2.0 WuWa has better musics)
-vibrant colors to attract kids and their wallet
-marketing
Thats that im not even joking
Genshin has a really good story and pacing, which is the main reason I still even play. It's also pretty original with story elements. It also had the advantage of coming out in the Golden Age of gaming (2020), and it's pretty good at marketing.