“The Record Labels Wants HIP-HOP To FAIL‼️” | Erick Sermon On Hip-Hop Being Held Back…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มี.ค. 2024
- Erick Sermon sheds light on the constraints hindering hip-hop's evolution and explores the burgeoning influence of Afrobeat in the global music scene.
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They need to let the guest speak. I came to hear Eric Sermon.
You're right.
@2enchant to be fair the hosts are in the industry themselves and they help spark the dialogue sometimes to add or challenge the guest or add their opinion to the mix .
Esso knows Erick Sermon personally. Esso use to manage hip-hop producer Rocwilder, who is also Erick’s protege.
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Exactly. What's the point of having a guest if you ain't gonna let the guest talk. Fuck!
the legendary green eyed bandit.
yess!💯💯💯🤟🏽
EPMD… one of the greatest hip hop groups of all time. E Double… one of the greatest music (not just hip hop) producers of all time. E’s catalog is craaaazy. Shout out to Def Squad and Hit Squad.
Suge tried getting all the blk label heads together to start their own publishing company and it was (_ay z, d_ddy) that dropped a dime to those people.
Hynaken; STOP INTERRUPTING, I want to hear what Eric Sermon is trying to say not you. Bagfuel!
I need this whole interview ASAP
As long as we see ourselves as victims we will never get anywhere we die for BS let's die for standing up for our people
We need to stop this idea that you can’t be victim and also stand up for yourself and fight.
Fact is all black people are victims of white supremacy and we all have to stand up to it in our own ways.
Indeed @blackraintv2551. they put on pants just like us !!
Why when you point out an illegitimate system it’s known as being a victim? Like damn I don’t dwell on nothing but I acknowledge it
@@Originalking Exactly it’s a fact we are victims
@@joshuadonald9383A victim of what though
LET THE GUEST TALK AND FINISH THEIR POINT! DAMN!!!
Dudes should just interview theirselves
The labels are still signing artists so let’s not say that they want hip hop to fail. The problem is that the artists they are signing are now getting signed for their popularity,image, influence, internet presence, but not THEIR TALENT. So that’s why it seems like the bar is getting lower and lower every year for albums, and the music overall seems to be getting worse and worse. They’re still artists out there who are really talented, and stay true to the craft of being an artist, but the majority of music consumers have been fed so much bullshit for so long that they don’t care for it. They’ve fallen in love with trends, gimmicks, and “microwave moments” as soon as one artist has had their 15 minutes, they shit on them, and move on to the next. The behavior of consumers has became extremely fickle, and as result the labels are moving the same way, just capitalize off of whatever crumbs they can get out of it.
This is the most accurate post I've read in a while.
You explained it to the tee
Let's just keep it simple it don't take a whole paragraph they want to sign artist that got bodies and ops now 💯 if you do pure hip hop they are not going to put you on and they trying to stop the underground from eating too
@@jpair205It's coming from the top down for sure. Yes, some people are going to be mindless consumers that buy what's put out. But a lot of consumers long for more positive and creative music. The proof is in the charts and the love that artists from yesteryear get.
@@jpair205True, this is being pushed from the top down for sure. True, there are consumers who will buy whatever put out but the charts and yesteryear artists touring success says it all, that there's a demand for more inspiring music. The key will be how does it come into fruition, without being undermined.
We seen them do this with rock n roll, country music, blues, jazz, etc they let us create the genre/style then try to slowly remove us from the actual genre once we created a blueprint for the rest of the ppl
They want positive hip hop to fail. They only promote artists that talk about the negative parts of our culture, with a few exceptions
WRONG!!
The audience doesn't support positive music!
True, now the consumers are brainwashed to enjoy that trash.
@@onceagain6184False, the majority of the people are rejecting today's music thus one of the reasons why rap hasn't charted highly and why 90s artists do so well touring.
This music is forced onto the public.
@@cald4aprps628 That is pure nonsense. Was that supposed to be a serious comment?
@@onceagain6184 Expound. What's nonsense?
The energy within us is too strong. We will never fail blessings to the mathematic ones. Blessings to the true goats of earth.
That is pure nonsense !
@@onceagain6184 you give yourself no credit shame on you
@@onceagain6184 who the f…are you hater? I know your skin better be brown.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
True but they've already took over a lot we created, we just come up with something else!
@@EveryDayLifeChannel9777they can take over whatever they want the whole Planet knows what we did fuck their whitewash I’m not the only person that will say it and scream it loud until the day that I die😂😂😂😂😂😂
If the industry shuts off on rap, their worst nightmare will be revealed. We will find ourselves. ✊🏿
🤫 don't speak to loud⌛
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That is pure nonsense!
YOU can't "find" yourself because of a genre of music? That's pathetic!
@@onceagain6184You don’t know the history or power of music… black music which is exactly what the commenter was referring to.
@@kirbyaugustine761 You are quite ignorant!
@@kirbyaugustine761 Im listening to Donny Hathaway RIGHT NOW !
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I love Eric he always tell the truth about the industry
Problem is, that money that we think gives us "power" doesn't do anything for us if we keep giving it back to "them" through extreme consumerism and European brand loyalty. If we don't invest back in ourselves by consuming black products and circulating wealth, and actually building and developing some things within our community that affect:
Health
Re-gentrification
Wealth in our community
Police and prison reform
Education
You could give us any amount of money and we'll lose it all. 🤷🏾♂️
@@esseen100BEST COMMENT ON TH-cam
@@esseen100 If black people suddenly all decided to only spend with black businesses, how would that stop inner city violence, high black abortion rates and 70% fatherless homes?
@@HypnoticHollywood you missed the point of the motivation behind intentional black cooperative economics. Black supporting blacks economically is a shift from blacks always depending on "others" to take care of our needs. The motivation is rooted in an internal sense of self love, which sustains any community and allows it to grow flourish and solve its own problems. It's the lack of self love and awareness that fractures communities, and causes all the problems of which you speak.
Thank you Hynaken. Its about the power.
Cash Money Records released 30 records independently before the nation knew who they were. They sold 1 Million records independently in 1997 before the universal deal. Hip Hop started out in the park. It's about the love of music not money. It will never die. We don't care what those people do why do you care? If you are an artist make art because that's who you are not because you can make a few dollars💯✊🏿
Just in the South
@@keepitreal1448 What are you saying?
Great stuff! 💯
Glad ya'll brothers are back on.
Good conversation❤
Great dialog fellas, i’m going to bump some EPMD today. Salute!
Thought provoking interview 💯
fire talk, E Sermon the truth to have this convo.
Man, I aint gonna front! Yall platform is FIRE! Its better than My Expert Opinion..in my EXPERT OPINION 😂
This is some common way of thinking. Look less outward and more inward. Just make dope music and be formed and positive thinking.
People forget the labels are marketers and licensing agents not your BANK
Now y’all getting to it!
Country is not coming and Afro beats had a moment last summer Burna Boy ain’t been seen since last year they tried the afrobeats on us it didn’t work they tried the female wave it’s over they don’t care about nothing but the bottom line which is being met🤣🤣🤣🤣
Facts that afrobeat wave and that other guy they try to push on us selling out stadiums means nothing for us. We don't care! That music doesn't hit the same and the people know it.
Best Afrobeat I’ve heard was from a Jamaican lol
All they care about is money, they don't care which sound will bring it, that's why they trying everything
Good awareness 🎉
good interview
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Peace Peace. Y'all speaking truth
Hip-Hop speaks mad languages now not only in English anymore🙏🏾
This is the best music segment ive seen in years
Information is worth more than money
Erick is speaking facts. It would be nice for him to elaborate on "they" because it leaves the audience uncertain. My belief is he's referring to the government (think CIA) and more specifically technology that runs the system.
Where is the merch?
I pray black people hear what they are saying 🙏 💯
They need some order when they are speaking with each other. Take your time at the other speak don’t cut each other off when the convo is getting good.
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tried to give it a good watch. had to cut it off half way through. y'all seem too interested in proving your points more than hearing what a true pioneer has to give as far as dropping gems. Erick Sermon interviews are some of the best & this clip shows you're more interested in hearing yourselves more than a legend. not clicking dislike, but i'm damn near close. y'all can do better. i can see it. no hate, just tough love that's necessary. salute!
I love how people bring up Tulsa, and it's destruction. But it was 1 of 50 others they destroyed.
Hip hop needs to come home.
Great fucking ep
Fam on social media
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How yall interviewing a legend and talking over him?
Honeatly the other two guys talked too much. Should've let Erick speak more.
it starts without saying ninja every second! i notice the older generation thinkgs that makes them look young.
We have enough amen
Sermon is correct as long as we're dependent on them they won't allow us to have our own its been like that since they took over
I remember Lyor saying afrobeats was coming years ago on the Breakfast Club and her we are. So I'm hearing what E is saying about Country being next up. Hell that Jelly Roll album slap! So E might be on to something. Beyoncé been making Country .Daddy Lessons anyone?
ITs all happening now cuz the 50 years Hip Hop anniversary was a celebration for us, and it was a tragedy for them!
There Black ppl in damn near every genre. Tons off Black ppl making quality Country music.
Math hoffa keep fucking up over there. Ya stay steady like ya been doing.
Booker T Washington once said, "You Can't Keep A Man Down Without Being In The Pit With Him". As long as we keep our music and values low, there will always be a Gatekeeper overseeing us plus making sure we don't climb out of the pit.
Also, the guy in the green hat keeps saying that the "industry" doesn't like black people because they are loud, well, being loud is another word for ignorant and any smart businessman would not equally partner or give large amounts of power to someone ignorant. Again, it was Booker T Washington who said "Character is Power" and black people created multiple wall streets with his wisdom and since we've abandoned it, we have been relying on the white man plus government to fix our problems. It won't happen.
2:27 Good point because it sounds forced to me
This "interview" is like having TWO Nores. Just loud and over talking who we WANTVto hear.
Just merge the sound heck we can bring our love and dancehall back it's a sound we can fuse with hip hop and can still express our own 50 sum million black people and others
The rappers are getting signed off not just their music but their negotiations
Common power or mid level power is in the demand of the culture (Hip hop, Rock, R&B etc...). Some demand in some cultures are bigger than others. Some cultures surpass others and may even lose ground later to those same cultures previously surpassed. Extreme power of upper echelon levels are years and years of financial growth and inheritance and or royalty etc... But nothing can ever stop a demand. However an attempt to control or an attempt to demolish a demand can be made. But the demand or the culture that has the demand will still exist, rather it be small or great. The only thing that can truly end a demand or change the direction is the culture itself. Or the people of that culture. Hip hop is in every culture. Because it was born from every culture. Black people and those that live or lived with or along side of black people created Rap music from all genres of music. By way of sampling drums, baselines etc...Hip hop is in conversation, poetry, streets, lingo, demeanor, education, marketing. And many others including The Gospel and many other religions. Hip hop ain't going no where but evrywhere.
Please let Erick Sermon talk
I'm surprised these great men are being so blunt. I guess they're like phuk it we're just going to go there.
The agenda.
NO! that afro beat shit is a miss FIRE that shit aint going no where
Knaw they tried us with Jamaican music 🎵🎶🎵 we just merged with it and we can also just prevail in afrobeats our creativity and the sound is us
If hip hop makes money, why would record labels to fail?
Dude said we had Tulsa Oklahoma Black Wallstreet. But aren't they Haitian? Y'all not Black Americans. Black Americans had Black Wallstreet not Haitians!
They just won't shut up and let the guest talk that why Shannon kills everybody he don't interrupt!!
I hope the afrobeat gate keepers are listening to this
Tell em E double
It's never good when the hosts talk more than the guest. Talking loud and saying nothing anybody wants to hear.
now we don't need labels. who cares what they think and want. what we make hot is hot regardless. stop thinking in terms of what other wnat for you and think about what you want for yourself. that is all.
Hip hop was to big and powerful but we had nothing but Ignorant clowns that were signed. This way we didn't build anything or get together to gain more power we fought each other and did ratchet music instead of Conscious music.
Us being unable to work together is the biggest.
Labels are more greedy than racist. Artists of every color get jerked until they learn the business. If they feel they can make some money off of it they're all in. If not they're moving on to the next hustle. We also have to remember that we are only 12% of the U.S. population. If an act goes platinum less than 1% of Blacks bought that album. White kids have always been the biggest consumers of music in America. Afro beats is the newest hottest thing so they're on that now and country has never went away. They never fell below the #2 genre in America. Beyoncé doing country was a natural progression. Every top artists is always looking for a new sound or challenge. She has had elements of country in some of her music before now and she's from Texas. It's not a stretch to think that she grew up listening to and appreciating country music. Hip-Hop has adopted the Master P concept that Atlanta perfected. Quantity over quality. Keep pushing it out product until they stop buying it. That's not a sustainable plan for the success of a whole genre though because you're just over-flooding and watering down the market. Now anybody thinks they can rap and it shows in the performances and in the music. Real creativity and truly mastering of the craft is very rare these days. You get out what you put in. Our ignorance and lack of understanding of all those things is more of the problem than record execs trying to bring down Hip-Hop.
Country wasn’t top 3 for some years until recently hip hop,R&B,pop,rock we’re all doing better than country. The country trend just popped off at the right time
Trap had its Run it's just time for Something New... Things change.
Get on the new wave or drown! We can do multiple things.
You mean hip hop can get WORSE😢
Let the guest talk .. dammm
I said years ago afro beat was next.
Shut up Esso gooood leee
TRAPED!!!!!!!
LYOR culture vulture cohen said this about 8 years ago on the breakfast club He owns 300 ent
You can thank Akon for introducing the world to AfroBeats
Hip hop is making hip hop fail...
E Dub!! Great conversation, but how many years of knowledge will pass with ya'll before you do exactly what you talked about. Get your attorneys. Keep it black (attorneys included) and create. Another example..although he did most of it to himself, Suge Knight was planning big things
And Cash Money owned 💯 percent before the deal. Stop saying what Black people do.We don't know you and you don't know all Black people . Name one Southern artist who got a major without making money independently.
I don't disagree with a lot of what y'all are saying the only problem is when a lot of black people got that money power and respect they gave a lot of people their ass to kiss they started treating people with a lot of disrespect even their own people especially a lot of blacks from these cities many of us know how to respect people because we know how we want to be treated.
J Prince murder inc etc almost had distribution deal they audit the members
The record business is dead period. With AI you can make any song you want with any artist you want.
Zulu swashbuckler.
I definitely believe they want rap and hip hop to fail and the record labels are not the only one's....be looking good boppers be looking real good🗣‼️
They’ve signed trash for too long … that’s it that’s all.
Sho🎉w proof
Black people don't put money into their product 🥺🤔😠🤑 time is money bro and even if it wasn't that's a broad statement.
IM NOT AN ERRICK SHEMMON FAN BUT THIS WAS A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN SHOW. I MUST SUBSCRIBE
What did Tory Lanes say?
Conversations filled with truth isn't entertainment, its educational.
Shut up n pep game, your opinions aren't the point of this production..
Sheesh
Black Americans let Hip Hop go the route it has gone these years. Yall did that. Yall allowed the record labels and distributors to dictate what was hot. What is drill rap, and who wants it played around their kids? At this point ill play any type of songs around my kids that dont have profanity and coarse language in it.
Well you’re better off just playing instrumental music. Because it sounds like you don’t like music with rawness. Artist wouldn’t be able to express themselves if we all thought like that
It ths kids. We have change their thinking. They like corny music. Yes it was on purpose that's why they separated hip hop and classic r&b.
When A. I. Takes over the entertainment game theyre gonna wish they heeded Ericks advice or Tory lanez and go full independent. After A.I pop music will be dead.
Yall everybody can't talk at the same damn time Shut up,and let each other talk 😒
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy. Most of the so-called rwp/R&B artists aren't actually artists. Too many comfortable people who would one hit wonders in another era.
Because the truly talented artists are being pushed aside. Think of R&B. Why is it not being pushed? Some of the best singers didn't lose their ability to sing, yet where is it?
I can't stand hood cats or rappers that do interviews they never let they guest speak they dam loud. It's like be quiet and let the dude speak.