Replay. Trooperino Guardino needs to be very heavily investigated. He had a track record of “missing “ a lot of really important things. It isn’t a coincidence.
Especially when the man says if it’s a difficult tech problem people dump it on his desk A self declared super user no less Or perhaps just a super friendly
The more coincidences there are, the less each one is a coincidence...Every lapse in the "investigation" is shrugged off as coincidental...Coincidence that Proctor had her guilty before anything was even investigated, that car was towed to CPD of all places, the solo cups, the missed texts/searches, handling of the clothes (and socks), Chloe, not speaking to the homeowner where a nearly dead officer of the same BPD the homeowner works for... You need supercomputers to calculate the astronomical (im)probability of them all being coincidences...Did I miss something?
@@thomasautonomousanonymous2050 totally agree However you ask ‘ did I miss something’ Ummmm I would think it would take a twenty plus page document to list all the coincidences and inconsistencies in Karen case at this point It’s well past the what the heck stage now It’s Disgusting or at least bad enough that the fbi are asking Ok what’s going on here I would love to see somebody do the stats or run it through AI just to see what the probability is to It’s What you say I’m sure - beyond probability it must be positively Astronomical
I’m glad you’re talking about this case-WHAT the hell is up in Massachusetts?? Between Karen Reed and Sandra Birchmore-the citizens of Massachusetts should be terrified!
I think most of us are. Our Governor just the other day, hired a new Chief for the MSP. He's from NJ. Let's see how this goes. Governor Healey is terrible. She could have reprimanded all the lazy, corrupt MSP involved in both cases, but she's not. She's only given a short, cookie-cutter statement about Proctor's texts, nothing else. She could also be forcing state charges against Matt Farwell, and even the others involved (Farwell's twin bro, Robert Devine, Guarino, etc) but she's avoiding it. As I said, she sucks.
That's just one county...And the MSP has faced issues from multiple scandals and changing leadership...Gov and AG are silent throughout but the DoJ is just getting started
*Absolutely! Love and light to you and all who remain; Blessed Be.* *RIP to all who were lost on 9/11/2001, Big hugs and comfort to all their loved ones as well.*
The MA towns of Stoughton and Canton are 2.5 miles apart. You can WALK from one to the other. If Karen's arrest and trial accomplished anything good, it brought a sharp spotlight onto the Birchmore case, and will clean some of the cancerous cells from the MA state police (and hopefully Canton and Stoughton).
Stoughton PD has been corrupt since the 70's it's wild that it's rival Canton is now being dragged down too. NCDA,MSP,CPD & SPD all need to be cleaned up. Bodycams & updated investigative techniques need to be implemented
Something tells me there's a longer list of cover-ups that nobody may ever know of. I wonder if there are going to be investigations into the work of those involved for convictions of people appealing their cases who claim innocence.
On the replay crew…Attorneys Melanie and Mark…You guys are fabulous together discussing KR and SB!! If KR is tried again, I hope the FBI is more involved with the Defense Team!! 🌺❤️🇺🇸
What a nice surprise to have you both together again. I watched the whole thing on Team Replay 'cause I missed the notification, but I've sent the link to the Family Group Text so the rest can listen to this tomorrow. The cracks in the system are extending upward and downward. Soon they will be widening, and the whole thing will come crashing down under the scrutiny of outside law enforcement. This is what's needed there. Thank you for covering, stay well, and God bless you.
Mr. Bederow is probably the most quotable person who has ever commented on this case: "I mean they ought to do it both sides for the public ... but if it turns out that the people that they're interviewing are coming from the island of the misfit toys ... that's not exactly a good representation..." ... "there's got to be reasonable people somewhere that they can find who can at least add to the production and not have it go off the rails you know on a one way ticket to Crazy Town ..." .... "... and the next thing you know everyone you know Pearl clutching and freaking out ..."
1:30:09 Mark makes a great point! And, John O’Keefe did text Karen saying that she was his designated driver for the night. If she was wasted at the bar, you’d think John -a responsible LEO would have called an Uber vs jeopardizing their safety. PS: Just to clarify, I never believe that KR’s BAC was anywhere near the exaggerated level that was presented at trial. If there was anyone who should be charged with an unaccounted for DUI and who never got tested it’d have to be BA, BH, and all of the young adults. As far as we all know, KR could’ve been drinking nonalcoholic beverages throughout the night.
True, but they were drinking with a bunch of other LEO'S, including a federal ATF agent (Higgins), and none of those people thought it was better or more responsible to call an Uber rather than drive. Edit: I don't think Karen was hammered though. There's no proof of what was in the glasses she was drinking from. With her health problems, it could have been water in some or all of them. I drink water at the bar 🤷♀️)
True about KR's BAC as reported being unsubstantiated!! It was based on the assumption that her last drink was at the time of the supposed crash. But she was likely drinking during the night while she was distraught over JO not replying to her messages. Thus the blood draw at the hospital cannot predict her BAC earlier in the evening. The Okeefe civil case tries to use this as proof of her impairment. While civil cases have a lower threshold of proof SURELY that will be successfully challenged at trial.
People that are going to take their life don't bring in the snow brush to remove the snow from their vehicle the next day because they aren't going to be alive then.
Yikes! It seems like true legal justice is extremely difficult to come by in Massachusetts for members of the general public. I am seeing what amounts to multiple Capital offense cases where apparently questionable work was done by Police, both in gathering, handling and preserving evidence as well as following that evidence and figuring out what really happened.
@@beckyd712 Policing in MA appears to be an act of stockpiling people's illegal deeds so that if/when your illegal stuff gets called out -- you have enough dirt to smooth over. It is concerted stupidity/incompetence compounded exponentially upwards disguised under the back the blue mentality. It is highly concerning that a vertical monopoly exists up to the court system and judges. Checks and balance has been redirected. Why have Mass citizens allowed this systematic power imbalace to accumulate?
*In many areas of America, it is almost impossible to find any sort of psychological counselling (most are full and many don't treat teens or children) and good luck finding one that is covered by insurance.*
Very true, especially for counseling that is deeper than a puppy's pee puddle. We're finally getting a large in patient and out patient treatment center for minors. My friend's grandson is currently 4 hours away, but at least he's getting help, but it's hard for the family to be as involved as they want and need to be but they're up there at least once a week.
The question "Why would the attorney allow Karen to do an interview",it is risky. After watching the trial,and knowing that transparency isn't a high priority of the DA's office or even from the judge on the case,is on full display,it really isn't risky. The defense is screwed as long as the participants of the judicial system remain the same. By doing the interview,the defense is working an angle to try to bring at least a little bit of transparency into the courtroom. Sunlight,(publicity)is the best disinfectant. Of course,the local Boston ABC station don't report on the local public servants or government officials. They REPEAT, what the local public servants or government officials has to say.
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh when Mr Bederow commented that ABC was maybe perhaps theoretically being a wee bit sexist when they focused on Ms Read's fashion sense. Just a couple of minutes before, Ms Little zeroed in on exactly that: "Ooooh, I really like that dress Karen's wearing!"
re: The SB case, are there other people silently suffering from the dirty deeds of all involved. Those areas of Massachusetts need a deep scrubbing and frequent check-ins…
I’ve found 60 min Australia does the best interviews and documentation on cases. Occasionally they cross the rubicon and pick up a high profile story here in America.
Melanie, seeing your wall today, knowing your love for the buffs, tells me that you would LOVE my painting of a buffalo. I posted him on FB. He’s SO fabulous!
Replay crew: having clothes Tailored isn’t a wealthy person thing. I’m a stay at home mom and low middle class and have clothes tailored. It’s not a big deal
@@lisat.8138 Ha! I love it and have no shame about shopping at a thrift shops. I don’t shop at them often but when I do, it’s like a hit or miss and I always get a hit on a really great find. Now as far as Karen is concerned, I love her attire and her style. She does have a smaller frame, but she’s well proportioned and just beautiful inside and out. 💕
This isn’t a case of “looking the other way” IMO, if argue that it’s absurd to think it’s anything less than accessory after the fact. There were a number of people who covered up the murder by knowingly,intentionally, tampering with evidence. Full stop. They knew that he did it at the time, and refusing to investigate when they were the only ones (they thought) who could charge him with his crime makes them accessories.
If Fanning analyzed the data that Guarina extracted from Burchmore's laptop, wouldn't Fanning be at fault for not calling out the disgusting text messages?
Thank you for your live video, I know we can't control how 20/20 did this episode. I think why Karen did it because the Massachusetts police is hiding so much in Karen Read & Sandra Birchmore case the public needs to know! The Federal investigations need to step in to bring light on all the corrupt police departments, police officers and officers wives for lying & cover up! The defense needs our help to get the word out! This is the best way
My opinion on 20/20 is she needs to get more attention as state still isn’t budging with the amount of support she does have. So big people that can stop this mess needs to get behind eyes on this
What are the chances of getting Aunty Bev recusing herself or getting a different Judge. Bev allowed a blood alcohol report that was drawn 9-10 hours after the crime was committed.
Replay crew. I am in GA and the fear here is very real right now. There are rumors that he was in a group on possibly discord and there have been posts on social media about this being the first and there are more shootings to come!! We are all anxious and terrified and our kids schools are still open, minus Appalachee I believe. We have had multiple officers patrolling every school, k9s on site, everything. I can’t sleep because it is rumored my son’s school is on that list. They have security and police in place within a huge radius but the anxiety is so REAL!!! On another note yay Melanie and Bederow!! Thank you for taking my mind off what’s happening in my area right now!
@@josephsarahvlahos9528 thank you!! Fox 5 Atlanta has a list of people who have been arrested since and it’s pretty long!! I’m glad action is being taken but the fear is still very strong right now!
Damned if u do, damned if u don’t. Do what u must, as innocent people have nothing to hide, guilty people try to fool and divert. Paul okeefe seems to put a dollar value on truth and brothers life.
It's also important to note that the ME in the Karen Read case was not the usual ME that Canton/State Police in that area work with. She was an on-call ME that filled in. And they didn't seem to find it easy to work with her, I'm thinking that's because she wouldn't just write down whatever they wanted her to.
I’m new to what Guarino may have missed with the Lexus infotainment. I’m still surprised that a 2021 Lexus didn’t have the type of safety features that would have made it really hard to accidentally mow someone down. 🙄
I feel if she went in with him, it might have saved John's life. It would be very hard to cover up 2 bodies versus one. Karen was someone they could easily pin it on.
I remember reading an article where a lawyer (sorry don’t remember the name now) was saying his client was convicted on faulty data supplied by MSP. If it was data supplied by Guano (not a mis spell) in that case to oh boy is this going to open up another can of worms same as the cases where proctor was lead Oh and then Melanie says there will be other Guano cases I believe it
1:24:12 I was wondering the same -how many other victims…were there any family members, relatives or coworkers that were violated by these monsters?! And, will they come forward?! 🙏
I don't know if it's the same in the States but in the UK, a lot of Pdfs seem to be drawn to activities which bring them into proximity with minors: Preachers, Scout leaders, Sports Coaches, Teachers, School Estate Management. As a result of the Soham M-rders in 2001, extremely stringent police checks are undertaken with anyone wanting to work in that area (which are rechecked every five years). Is it the same in America?
Mr. Bederow is soo smart and very knowledgeable about these cases. Love how he said Farwell held his newborn just hours after murdering his other child! My gosh, 😢😢
I wish they could all be arrested for being an accessory after the fact. Including Lally. He needs to at least be let go, and publicly shamed for his part.
🎉 the dynamic duo ❤️ Replay crew and thank you both for sharing your wonderful knowledge with us. Great episode as always. I just can't see another trial happening and hopefully theres a lot more arrests coming down the line 🤞🏼 Justice is taking its sweet time but it will come for Karen, Officer O'Keffe and Sandra. May they rest forever in peace 🕊️
I honestly assume that the police probably didn’t think that Farwell killed Sandra. That is the problem though , if they will do these favors for cronies where are we to assume it stops? If something like a death investigation can be so easily dismissed than how about any number if lesser situations/crimes are freely tossed aside because coworkers or friends are potentially involved?
Our DA’s office here in Texas has their own investigator he works strictly for them. He is a certified peace officer but is just employed by the county DAs office.
Great show guys! Loving the combo of Mel and Mark‼️❣️ I just saw that Gov. Maura Healy just named Geoff Nobel the next Colonel of the state police in MA. Um, yeah he looks like a stamp down on more of the same since I'm reading a book by it's cover... But how many times do I hear about psychopaths/sociopaths having weird ears... His ears are pointy and flared out, those are bad signs already y'all! That is practically a science!
Posting the swift video, and I am OUT!
😂😂😂 Easily triggered?
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle 🤣🤣🤣
@@jessicasouza2112 @teambritney we lost one! Don't you worry your pretty little mind, people throw rocks at things that shine!
😂😂😂 oh my.
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle Melanie are you a Speak Now girlie?! I love the song you quoted! 💜💜
Replay. Trooperino Guardino needs to be very heavily investigated. He had a track record of “missing “ a lot of really important things. It isn’t a coincidence.
Especially when the man says if it’s a difficult tech problem people dump it on his desk
A self declared super user no less
Or perhaps just a super friendly
Yes I feel like he takes cash payments under the table. A**hole
The more coincidences there are, the less each one is a coincidence...Every lapse in the "investigation" is shrugged off as coincidental...Coincidence that Proctor had her guilty before anything was even investigated, that car was towed to CPD of all places, the solo cups, the missed texts/searches, handling of the clothes (and socks), Chloe, not speaking to the homeowner where a nearly dead officer of the same BPD the homeowner works for...
You need supercomputers to calculate the astronomical (im)probability of them all being coincidences...Did I miss something?
@@thomasautonomousanonymous2050 totally agree
However you ask ‘ did I miss something’
Ummmm
I would think it would take a twenty plus page document to list all the coincidences and inconsistencies in Karen case at this point
It’s well past the what the heck stage now
It’s Disgusting or at least bad enough that the fbi are asking Ok what’s going on here
I would love to see somebody do the stats or run it through AI just to see what the probability is to
It’s What you say I’m sure - beyond probability
it must be positively Astronomical
It's not just prosecutors it's also judges that stand behind cops and ignore the defense
Exactly- these are very small offices that are in constant working contact (in tiny courtrooms) …
And district attorneys 😢
I’m glad you’re talking about this case-WHAT the hell is up in Massachusetts?? Between Karen Reed and Sandra Birchmore-the citizens of Massachusetts should be terrified!
we are!
We are
I think most of us are. Our Governor just the other day, hired a new Chief for the MSP. He's from NJ. Let's see how this goes.
Governor Healey is terrible. She could have reprimanded all the lazy, corrupt MSP involved in both cases, but she's not. She's only given a short, cookie-cutter statement about Proctor's texts, nothing else.
She could also be forcing state charges against Matt Farwell, and even the others involved (Farwell's twin bro, Robert Devine, Guarino, etc) but she's avoiding it.
As I said, she sucks.
That's just one county...And the MSP has faced issues from multiple scandals and changing leadership...Gov and AG are silent throughout but the DoJ is just getting started
We totally are.
Hey friends I lost my only brother on 9/11 he was in the plane that hit the WTC, please say a prayer for all loved ones lost next week. Thank you 😢
I'm so sorry for your loss. What's his name? I'll say a prayer for him and you. He's watching over you ❤❤❤❤
So very sorry😢
😢I’m sorry
😞😞😞❤️🤍💙 He will never ever be forgotten 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Be strong Angela 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻❤️🤍💙🦅🦅🦅
*Absolutely! Love and light to you and all who remain; Blessed Be.*
*RIP to all who were lost on 9/11/2001, Big hugs and comfort to all their loved ones as well.*
The MA towns of Stoughton and Canton are 2.5 miles apart. You can WALK from one to the other. If Karen's arrest and trial accomplished anything good, it brought a sharp spotlight onto the Birchmore case, and will clean some of the cancerous cells from the MA state police (and hopefully Canton and Stoughton).
@@pillettadoinswartsh4974 they are actually border towns. Right up route 138…
Stoughton PD has been corrupt since the 70's it's wild that it's rival Canton is now being dragged down too. NCDA,MSP,CPD & SPD all need to be cleaned up. Bodycams & updated investigative techniques need to be implemented
They thought they had got away with 1 cover up and its like they got more comfortable to cover up more. Disgusting.
Something tells me there's a longer list of cover-ups that nobody may ever know of. I wonder if there are going to be investigations into the work of those involved for convictions of people appealing their cases who claim innocence.
On the replay crew…Attorneys Melanie and Mark…You guys are fabulous together discussing KR and SB!! If KR is tried again, I hope the FBI is more involved with the Defense Team!! 🌺❤️🇺🇸
What a nice surprise to have you both together again. I watched the whole thing on Team Replay 'cause I missed the notification, but I've sent the link to the Family Group Text so the rest can listen to this tomorrow. The cracks in the system are extending upward and downward. Soon they will be widening, and the whole thing will come crashing down under the scrutiny of outside law enforcement. This is what's needed there. Thank you for covering, stay well, and God bless you.
Love you two great lawyers, love listening to to you both🫶
Thanks for the coverage! I have to hope as more and more comes out with Birchmore they just drop the charges against Karen Read.
Mr. Bederow is probably the most quotable person who has ever commented on this case:
"I mean they ought to do it both sides for the public ... but if it turns out that the people that they're interviewing are coming from the island of the misfit toys ... that's not exactly a good representation..."
...
"there's got to be reasonable people somewhere that they can find who can at least add to the production and not have it go off the rails you know on a one way ticket to Crazy Town ..."
....
"... and the next thing you know everyone you know Pearl clutching and freaking out ..."
Amen!!
Exactly 👍
I just love Mr Bederow!
“Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown” is my personal fave 😂
1:30:09 Mark makes a great point! And, John O’Keefe did text Karen saying that she was his designated driver for the night. If she was wasted at the bar, you’d think John -a responsible LEO would have called an Uber vs jeopardizing their safety.
PS: Just to clarify, I never believe that KR’s BAC was anywhere near the exaggerated level that was presented at trial. If there was anyone who should be charged with an unaccounted for DUI and who never got tested it’d have to be BA, BH, and all of the young adults. As far as we all know, KR could’ve been drinking nonalcoholic beverages throughout the night.
True, but they were drinking with a bunch of other LEO'S, including a federal ATF agent (Higgins), and none of those people thought it was better or more responsible to call an Uber rather than drive.
Edit: I don't think Karen was hammered though. There's no proof of what was in the glasses she was drinking from. With her health problems, it could have been water in some or all of them. I drink water at the bar 🤷♀️)
This shows that she did not intend to kill him. As the jury noticed already. But there's still a long way to Not Guilty
@@justkim9827 I agree 💯 and never believed KR was anywhere near the inflamed BAC. I will edit my post to reflect my thoughts. Thank you! 😊
True about KR's BAC as reported being unsubstantiated!! It was based on the assumption that her last drink was at the time of the supposed crash. But she was likely drinking during the night while she was distraught over JO not replying to her messages. Thus the blood draw at the hospital cannot predict her BAC earlier in the evening. The Okeefe civil case tries to use this as proof of her impairment. While civil cases have a lower threshold of proof SURELY that will be successfully challenged at trial.
Absolutely. Agreed.
Love seeing Bederow and you ! Great team.
People that are going to take their life don't bring in the snow brush to remove the snow from their vehicle the next day because they aren't going to be alive then.
Love watching you together
Same!!! 😊
Rewatch crew. So happy to see you both together again. 😊
Wow they've got 2drain the swamp immediately,seriously?!!
Why would thousands of people from all over the world,stand up for a lady we don’t even know… Karen Read is 100% innocent.
Amazing two Lawyers
Love Mark B. So intelligent 👍
My favorite two together agsin
Yikes! It seems like true legal justice is extremely difficult to come by in Massachusetts for members of the general public. I am seeing what amounts to multiple Capital offense cases where apparently questionable work was done by Police, both in gathering, handling and preserving evidence as well as following that evidence and figuring out what really happened.
@@beckyd712 Policing in MA appears to be an act of stockpiling people's illegal deeds so that if/when your illegal stuff gets called out -- you have enough dirt to smooth over.
It is concerted stupidity/incompetence compounded exponentially upwards disguised under the back the blue mentality.
It is highly concerning that a vertical monopoly exists up to the court system and judges. Checks and balance has been redirected.
Why have Mass citizens allowed this systematic power imbalace to accumulate?
Replay crew! Good to see you both. Thank you!
*In many areas of America, it is almost impossible to find any sort of psychological counselling (most are full and many don't treat teens or children) and good luck finding one that is covered by insurance.*
Very true, especially for counseling that is deeper than a puppy's pee puddle. We're finally getting a large in patient and out patient treatment center for minors. My friend's grandson is currently 4 hours away, but at least he's getting help, but it's hard for the family to be as involved as they want and need to be but they're up there at least once a week.
The question "Why would the attorney allow Karen to do an interview",it is risky.
After watching the trial,and knowing that transparency isn't a high priority of the DA's office or even from the judge on the case,is on full display,it really isn't risky.
The defense is screwed as long as the participants of the judicial system remain the same.
By doing the interview,the defense is working an angle to try to bring at least a little bit of transparency into the courtroom.
Sunlight,(publicity)is the best disinfectant.
Of course,the local Boston ABC station don't report on the local public servants or government officials.
They REPEAT, what the local public servants or government officials has to say.
Good point!
The commonwealth had all Sandra’s text messages for 3 years and did nothing to stop Farwell???
Ain't that something!!! Pure negligence & disregard all around 🤬
❤❤❤ sending love to all, Melanie and Mark give me so much hope!!
TY Melanie --- so happy you were on tonight!!
2 of my favs! Always a good convo!
Never miss an episode…even if I miss the live! Love y’all, Melanie, Mark, and everyone in the chats and comments!
Justice is coming.
You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh when Mr Bederow commented that ABC was maybe perhaps theoretically being a wee bit sexist when they focused on Ms Read's fashion sense. Just a couple of minutes before, Ms Little zeroed in on exactly that: "Ooooh, I really like that dress Karen's wearing!"
Ah, but my comment was complimentary. The irony! 😉
@@nedludd3641 lol she sure did! 🤣
You and Mark are just perfection together! ❤❤
Thanks Melanie/Mark,the best*
Replay crew ❤🧁🩷
😊 Me too on the replay crew. 🍿🥤😊
Love and respect from the UK
Replay for me after the first night of the film festival.
Me too! 😊 Melanie and Mark-my two favorites. Am almost to the end of this episode. Enjoy! 💕
I’m on replay but I am surprised Karen’s attorneys let her do this show. I don’t think she should have.
re: The SB case, are there other people silently suffering from the dirty deeds of all involved. Those areas of Massachusetts need a deep scrubbing and frequent check-ins…
Thanks!
Thank you! 🧁
I’ve found 60 min Australia does the best interviews and documentation on cases. Occasionally they cross the rubicon and pick up a high profile story here in America.
That's absolutely true.
I love 60 mins Australia especially the Under Investigation series although I have to search YT for them
Melanie, seeing your wall today, knowing your love for the buffs, tells me that you would LOVE my painting of a buffalo. I posted him on FB. He’s SO fabulous!
We have a bison ranch a few miles from us, they are magnificent;
@@Sulynne-v5xI’m taken by them! Check out my painting, I’ll be making prints. I have a place in NM next to Ted Turners bison ranch.
Yeay mark's back
I don’t understand why her attorneys allowed her to do ANOTHER interview? 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🙈
Replay crew: having clothes Tailored isn’t a wealthy person thing. I’m a stay at home mom and low middle class and have clothes tailored. It’s not a big deal
Very true! I work from home, have a sewing machine and an amazing husband who loves to sew with me. We do all of our own tailoring 🪡💕😊
Also, I have bought clothes from a thrift shop and had them tailored. Cheaper than buying new.
@@lisat.8138 Ha! I love it and have no shame about shopping at a thrift shops. I don’t shop at them often but when I do, it’s like a hit or miss and I always get a hit on a really great find. Now as far as Karen is concerned, I love her attire and her style. She does have a smaller frame, but she’s well proportioned and just beautiful inside and out. 💕
@@BayleeB yes! I have an apple figure and skinnier legs. Also my bust is larger. So I always have to tailor
I agree. Plus before she was FRAMED, she worked as a professional. Her job required her to dress the way she does.
This isn’t a case of “looking the other way” IMO, if argue that it’s absurd to think it’s anything less than accessory after the fact. There were a number of people who covered up the murder by knowingly,intentionally, tampering with evidence. Full stop. They knew that he did it at the time, and refusing to investigate when they were the only ones (they thought) who could charge him with his crime makes them accessories.
Replay crew! Great show you two 👏 ❤️ #FKR JUSTICE IS COMING
Replay!! 🎉🎉🎉
Isn't Guardino the cop who said "kill me" while on the stand?
Yup!
If Fanning analyzed the data that Guarina extracted from Burchmore's laptop, wouldn't Fanning be at fault for not calling out the disgusting text messages?
Thank you for your live video, I know we can't control how 20/20 did this episode. I think why Karen did it because the Massachusetts police is hiding so much in Karen Read & Sandra Birchmore case the public needs to know! The Federal investigations need to step in to bring light on all the corrupt police departments, police officers and officers wives for lying & cover up! The defense needs our help to get the word out! This is the best way
My opinion on 20/20 is she needs to get more attention as state still isn’t budging with the amount of support she does have. So big people that can stop this mess needs to get behind eyes on this
The best duo!!
Rewatch crew from South Africa!
Great show again Law Queen and Law Daddy
What are the chances of getting Aunty Bev recusing herself or getting a different Judge. Bev allowed a blood alcohol report that was drawn 9-10 hours after the crime was committed.
And it was a serum not the proper draw
What? 9 hours later?
@@Sulynne-v5x Yea then the calculated what it would have been at the time of the crime. I have never heard of that being admissible
Great live show ! Thank you Melanie, Mods and Mark ! 🩷🤟🏼🥰🙌🏼
Catching up this morning. Melanie and Mark loved the show. 🥰
Excellent
ls At Berv walk away fr the:KR case,n if there's another trial(will there be a diff.jurors)Maybe there'll b a change of venue❤GOD BLESS
WOW if:Paul actually repaired John"s car(that says it all)abt her being the outsider all along!
The Dynamic Duo!!!✨
Read Case: if you have ZERO #ChainOfCustody you must toss the case. That will teach them to do their job.
Love Make and Melanie
The video of all of them in the bar does not show Karen impaired at all!
And everyone that was there that night, including the McAlberts, said she was _not_ drunk
Replay crew. I am in GA and the fear here is very real right now. There are rumors that he was in a group on possibly discord and there have been posts on social media about this being the first and there are more shootings to come!! We are all anxious and terrified and our kids schools are still open, minus Appalachee I believe. We have had multiple officers patrolling every school, k9s on site, everything. I can’t sleep because it is rumored my son’s school is on that list. They have security and police in place within a huge radius but the anxiety is so REAL!!!
On another note yay Melanie and Bederow!! Thank you for taking my mind off what’s happening in my area right now!
So gut-wrenching! Stay safe 🙏 Praying for all of GA!
@@josephsarahvlahos9528 thank you!! Fox 5 Atlanta has a list of people who have been arrested since and it’s pretty long!! I’m glad action is being taken but the fear is still very strong right now!
Damned if u do, damned if u don’t. Do what u must, as innocent people have nothing to hide, guilty people try to fool and divert. Paul okeefe seems to put a dollar value on truth and brothers life.
Wondering if Paul O’Keefe is following the precedent set by Sandra Birchmore’s family who are suing 3 former police officers?
It's also important to note that the ME in the Karen Read case was not the usual ME that Canton/State Police in that area work with. She was an on-call ME that filled in. And they didn't seem to find it easy to work with her, I'm thinking that's because she wouldn't just write down whatever they wanted her to.
Dynamyte show as usual!!
Getting caught up- thanks for this discussion.
I’m new to what Guarino may have missed with the Lexus infotainment. I’m still surprised that a 2021 Lexus didn’t have the type of safety features that would have made it really hard to accidentally mow someone down. 🙄
@@MichaelinNeoh THIS!! You nailed it. My teenager could’ve figured this out!
If she didn’t pay for many of her drinks, was someone trying to get her drunk? Also she had planned to get pizza after, then that fell through.
Hi all 😊
I believe Fanning drove jury to and from court.
Can you imagine what would have happened if Karen had gone into Brian Albert's house that nigh
She probably wouldn't be alive now.
@@gaylecatalina1380Lucky's snow plow would have hit 2.
I feel if she went in with him, it might have saved John's life. It would be very hard to cover up 2 bodies versus one. Karen was someone they could easily pin it on.
I remember reading an article where a lawyer (sorry don’t remember the name now) was saying his client was convicted on faulty data supplied by MSP. If it was data supplied by Guano (not a mis spell) in that case to oh boy is this going to open up another can of worms same as the cases where proctor was lead
Oh and then Melanie says there will be other Guano cases
I believe it
😂😂😂
Replay crew. Holy S the mainstream is coming around 😭❤️
1:24:12 I was wondering the same -how many other victims…were there any family members, relatives or coworkers that were violated by these monsters?! And, will they come forward?! 🙏
How did I miss this LIVE?!? REPLAY CREW
Replay crew 😁
I don't know if it's the same in the States but in the UK, a lot of Pdfs seem to be drawn to activities which bring them into proximity with minors: Preachers, Scout leaders, Sports Coaches, Teachers, School Estate Management. As a result of the Soham M-rders in 2001, extremely stringent police checks are undertaken with anyone wanting to work in that area (which are rechecked every five years). Is it the same in America?
If phone data directly downloaded to DA server couldn't they delete parts of them?
Mr. Bederow is soo smart and very knowledgeable about these cases. Love how he said Farwell held his newborn just hours after murdering his other child! My gosh, 😢😢
This just shows what a sick Mofo Farwell truly is! I hope karma gives him exactly what he deserves
I wish they could all be arrested for being an accessory after the fact.
Including Lally. He needs to at least be let go, and publicly shamed for his part.
🎉 the dynamic duo ❤️ Replay crew and thank you both for sharing your wonderful knowledge with us. Great episode as always.
I just can't see another trial happening and hopefully theres a lot more arrests coming down the line 🤞🏼 Justice is taking its sweet time but it will come for Karen, Officer O'Keffe and Sandra. May they rest forever in peace 🕊️
Fabulous show❣️❣️
I hope they show PROCTOR
Don't give a crap about T Swift... 😊
🤮 She just lost me as a viewer.
Replay crew
Two best law experts on TH-cam period FULL STOP!
I didn't think the motion was approved to get Gretchen Voss'private notes and ABC said no… Anyone?
MA config of DA office with embedded MSP creates police directed by DA - which can create a thug group that does DA's bidding
so annoying that I have to sleep when all the fun is going down! I'm tellin ya, sleep is highly overrated 🤭
It’s not just Massachusetts!
Bederow is so attractive!!
And very intelligent.
@@taken5334 yes!!! Yesterday I told my bf I have a crush on Bederow. lol I’m 30.
Fanning was in charge of the jurors in Karen’s trial!
I honestly assume that the police probably didn’t think that Farwell killed Sandra. That is the problem though , if they will do these favors for cronies where are we to assume it stops? If something like a death investigation can be so easily dismissed than how about any number if lesser situations/crimes are freely tossed aside because coworkers or friends are potentially involved?
I want to know more about Craig Casey 2018 CANTON
Our DA’s office here in Texas has their own investigator he works strictly for them. He is a certified peace officer but is just employed by the county DAs office.
Great show guys! Loving the combo of Mel and Mark‼️❣️ I just saw that Gov. Maura Healy just named Geoff Nobel the next Colonel of the state police in MA. Um, yeah he looks like a stamp down on more of the same since I'm reading a book by it's cover... But how many times do I hear about psychopaths/sociopaths having weird ears... His ears are pointy and flared out, those are bad signs already y'all! That is practically a science!
Think Karen should take this time 2rest n recuperate!Quite they'll gather more evidences♡