Literally every single gaming tech youtuber on the platform earn a living out of talking complete waffle for 10+ minutes when they know just as much as we do and are purely speculating
@@stanislavkimov2779 There are online inflation calculators. The jump from the 1070 ($379) to 4070 ($600) was completely artificial. Adjusted with inflation for the year and month it was released, it should have been $479. So a Benjamin more, not ALMOST DOUBLE! 😠 And consider the fact that the "4070" is really a 4060 in disguise. The "real" 4070 is now $800, called the "4070 Ti SUPER". 😠 So the jump is really from $379 to $800. Wtf, Nvidia? For a 70-class?! For a MID-RANGE product???
So I’m lying, saying your card is outdated? I made that up?,You said I don’t know what I’m talking about, so I obviously made it up. Which model of the card do you have, and I’ll tell you how it's, in fact, outdated.
You can buy an amd gpu on sale right now and get great performance, you don't need to wait on anything nvidia is producing. The 6750 is on sale for $300 and 7800xt for $500, unless you're a high end buyer you don't need to wait.
@@spacecommanderbear I don't think there has ever been a time activism has helped anything in gpu market. So while you might feel better, nothing happens.
@@Mrfiufaufou There has never been anything in the GPU market but Nvidia fan boy and provable market manipulation from Nvidia and there vendors. How many generations has it happened for how many people are brand bitches please save you're activism nonsense.
It literally costs them less than $30 to add 8GB of VRAM to a card. For the 5080 to only have 16GB is absolutely disheartening. They REALLY want people to feel like they NEED to get the 5090.
No, it costs more. The memory bus needs to be expanded by to 384 bit. That means it costs silicon space on the die. It also costs power. 384 bit bus uses more power than 256 bit. It also has more problem with signal integrity. Which totals likely over $60-80 for manufacturing. And given they want to make a profit, usually equal to what something costs, and that profit being split between Nvidia, AIBs, and retailers, it would likely mean a GPU $150 more expensive. For what will essentially be an almost meaningless performance gain, since 99% of titles don't use more than 16GB, at settings you would ACTUALLY play at on this GPU.
If there is no efficiency improvement for the performance gained then these GPUs are a complete waste. The 4070ti pulled half the power of the 3090ti and beats it with a vram overclock. If the 5070ti just spits out more power for the performance gained then that’s a bad showing. NVIDIA is just trying to hard to make these lower class cards useless so that the 5090 can be milked
Bad part is ; that 80 class card is still going to be $1k+ Another couple of generations, another couple of price increases, soon we will be paying $699 - $799 (a 80 class price as early as the 30 series) for 60 class cards. And people will still..... buy it.
Remember, they shifted the entire 4000 cards (except maybe the 4090) by 1-2 tiers, and they're going to shift them again by 1-2 tiers this generation. What they call "5080" now, should have been the 5060! 😐 And they're going to ask $1000+ for it. For what should have been *THE 60-CLASS!!!* 😠
@@Vontigerstrom They're doing the exact same thing. The 7900 XT should have been called the 7800 (non-"XT") and the 7800 XT should hv been called the 7700.
@@gs-pd5ox The 60-class always competed with the prev-gen 80-class. The 1060 matched the 980. After that it went to shit. I remember Leather Jacket Guy touting (tooting?) the 1070 as being _faster than the Titan X._ The "Titan" class is the 90-class now. They made SURE not to make that mistake again after that. And because of that I never bought another GPU. None of the new cards were _interesting._ The GTX 1070 was INTERESTING. A $999 card released a few months earlier being matched by a $379 card. WHERE have you seen anything like that since? 😐 They've had ample opportunities to make the 3060 12GB available at a decent price. Because Samsung was making them for practically nothing. Instead they chose to pull them and they're rotting in some warehouses now, because they wanted to push the 4000 cads. 😠 And it looks like they succeeded, with the "4060" (which is really a 4030Ti worth sub-$100 not $300!!!) being #1 in the Steam Hardware Survey. Nvidiots fell for it. "Nvidia, the way you're meant to be played." And because of that they're gonna do it again in the future!
@@zdspider6778its called marketing and corporate greed, along with stupid people who fall for it. To be completely honest, theres no reason to buy any new card unless you have a 10/20 series or amd variant. And I still wouldnt buy a new card. Id wait and buy a card that does what i need at the price thats worth its performance. Besides, just like ps5/pro theres no games to be played anyways. Most people who are buying the titans (4090/5090) are youtubers and people that watch them that want to wave their epeen. I agree the 80 class cards have been egregiously cut down. Thats so these companies dont shoot themselves in the foot like when the 1080 ti happened.
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade with every single generation. It is okay to keep your money and skip a few, especially when incremental value per dollar looks underwhelming.
Not alot of new AAA games coming out that justify these new GPUs. I find myself playing my old ps2 and ps1 games more and more. Monster Hunter Wilds is the only game that half way has me excited.
All eyes on RDNA 4 as, in case AMD really does manage to deliver RTX 4080-like performance with the RDNA 4 flagship at half the price, that's actually gonna be something worth the hype for once. nVidia is completely out of touch at this time, not really worth bothering with unless you're getting their absolute highest-end model.
AMD is just gonna look at nvidia pricing and undercut it by a little bit, meanwhile offering less RT performance and worse upscaling quality. They had all the chances in the past to really make the nvidia prices look dumb but they never do it.
I've been saying this for years. AMD cards - equivalent to Nvidia in performance - should be 30-35% cheaper than Nvidia, not $30-35 cheaper. This is what AMD never understood. Or maybe they did and just didn't care. Maybe they never wanted more than 12% market share. Intel is eating THEIR lunch, not Nvidia's. Just look at the Steam Hardware Survey charts, dominated by Nvidia graphics cards.
Worse still, AMD pulled an Nvidia this generation. Not even mentioning that they copied Nvidia's pricing and shrinkflation/"enshittyfication" strategy. They literally waited for Nvidia to announce their prices before announcing theirs, based on Nvidia's. And AMD also shifted their product stack, just like Nvidia: the "RX 7900 XT" should have been called the RX 7800 (non-"XT"). And the "RX 7800 XT" should have been called the RX 7700 (again, non-"XT"). And so on.
@@wolfstorm5394 Most games at 4k these days consume more than 16gb, especially with ray tracing, many games also have memory leaks which more VRAM can help offset for a longer time. 24GB would also mean that the card is better at being a work station which would be great for those that need to do video editing or animation but cannot afford a 5090 which you know for sure is going to be well over msrp and going for over 2000.
@@BlitzercupGaming Dude, 16GB of VRAM isn't going to prevent you from playing games for a very long time, now hush... y'all just whine and panick over nothing, go back some years and see how long 4GB and even less were useable, these days it's a VRAM craze...smh 🤣 if you really need a GPU with more than 16GB then I'm sure there will be options so just buy that
Not sure if people have figured this out yet, but the drop off from the 90 class to the 80 class is because everything below the 90 class is a laptop card and chips that don’t pass for laptop use become your DIY cards
yeah dlss 4 that could work on all RTX gpus but it will only work for the 50 series so that we need to buy a 50 series just for that.... Thats prob what dlss 4 will be
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Guess I'll just keep rocking my old GTX 1080 TI. I haven't been playing graphic heavy games anyway.
This dude has been living under a rock- price will be around 2k due to latest rumors, but I hope you get the chance to buy it for 2500 if that’s what you really want lol.
@@dolpoof2335 I think that same statement applies if you want to pay 2k for a graphics card, hey it's your money do whatever you want. 2k or 2.5k is too much either way.
I'm so glad I am sitting out this series. I don't have to worry and get worked up about performance and prices. Good luck to those that want to buy one of the models in the 50xx series.
Blame AI, Nvidia don't actually want to sell to gamers as they can sell the same silicon for 40x more to AI which is why they make the price unattractive.
What is more interesting is if Nvidia will release more features that are only coming to the 5000 series now that they are winding down 4000 series. Gotta create incentives for people to update and if 4000 series owners feel left out Nvidia might try to motivate them to upgrade 😢
I'm currently still waiting until after CES, when all new mainboards, CPUs and GPUs are available. About to build a new system, and will most likely fully switch to AMD this time. My RTX 3060 already has 12 GB so there's no way i'd get a bigger nvidia GPU but stay at the same amount of VRAM or just slightly more (12-16GB). Also, nvidia's pricing is just so terribly expensive in the mid range already. Anyway, first quarter of 2025 will become really interesting! Cheers!
Didn't expect anything from these cards anyway. Or well I expected them to be like 3060->4060, barely any upgrade at all. How much faster do you think the 5070 will be compared to the 4070 super?
I think the PCIE v5.0 will reduce any stutters from "not enough vram" by 50%. 2x pcie bandwidth helpful for many algorithms. Also RT-cores or Tensor-cores could be stronger. The extra power budget could be taken by faster memory system. Or bigger L2 cache. Both increases FPS. Lastly, is 5000 series dual-issue pipeline like 4000 series? Or is it singular pipeline? Anyway, there are more pipelines, faster memory and more TDP. These combined should give more performance.
The super version is using slightly better binned version than the TI version die, hence more rare. So I guess they have to build up stockpile of the die type before launching the super version. Hence the later release date. Not meant as a defense of NVIDA though. It is just production planning
According to this, my 7900XT is still going to stay in midrange. I guess you need a x80 or x90 card to make a gen for gen upgrade that is reasonable. Realistically, a 5080 should be 4090 +10-15%, not 4080 +10-15%.
Pretty much nailed it months ago. 40 series all over again with the 90 class being the true leap and the rest just kinda existing to satisfy investors. Doesn't matter though because it will sell no matter the price.
Just a quick comment about the end of the video when you mentioned AMD, wouldn't you think since Nvidia and Intel coming with PCI5 that RX 8000 WOULD use GDDR7 as well? I could see maybe Intel using GDDR6 FOR Battlemage though. Just a thought I could be wrong
Best thing I ever did was to ditch nvidia for amd! When are nvidia going to learn that vram amounts needs to increase, pisses me off even more when you consider how much it would cost nvidia to do so
Dear friend @Frostie3672 Best thing I ever did was to ditch "nvidia/amd/intel" trio, and hold on to what I got in my pc. I was trying to upgrade my graphics card (which is R9 380 from 2015) since 2018 but, first mining craze, than pandemy, than "price fixing crime" of triopoly, so I was keep delaying and postponing my purchase. "nvidia/amd/intel" trio stopped competing and abusing us (end users) with their price fixing crime, who knows since when? Good luck to them overpricing their (already way too expensive) products once again. I am not going to buy it... They killed the market, congratulations to them...
What in the hell are you going to do with that much VRAM? Are you running AI models? Are you a professional that runs apps that eat up VRAM like it's tic tacs? My God most games today don't even use 10 GB and that's like hardcore AAA titles and even then they run fine on 8 GB and 6 GB models.
@AndyViant and yet you'd still be just fine on an 8 GB video card. Also remember that what they allocate versus what they actually use are two different things. They may allocate more memory but not actually utilize it. Somehow those games still play fine on 6th and 8 GB cards. I have two 16 GB cards and I have never even come close to using all of it. The highest I've ever hit was I think just under 11 GB. I have played the same game just fine with my 3080 10 GB and not noticed the missing VRAM at all.
OFA + CACHE + RT tweaks... For regular RASTER it probably won't make much difference, but if you're trying to run a MODERN game using DLSS upscaling (i.e. 1080p->4K) plus PATH TRACING and maybe some Frame Gen (where applicable) I think the RTX50 cards will pull ahead a LOT compared to similar RTX40 cards. But an RTX5070 with only 12GB? That's going to be a problem.
Amd cards will win but nvidia will be more inefficient, there's some great prices on amd cpus and gpus right now, for low to mid range buyers not sure why you're waiting for 50 series nvidia gpus.
“No competition”. Yes…..at the high end. The competition will be at the mid range to low end. So the same but slightly better in that range wont cut it.
@@kapler8550 the AMD high end for next gen is basically gonna match a 4070 Ti Super or 5070 so… no competition in the midrange either. AMD 2 generations behind when RX 8000 launches. I guess in the midrange AMD will compete with the 5060 or 4070
@@nick_g no? top n48 will be (as you said) as fast as the 5070 or even faster. all the leaks are saying 7900xt level as a minimum. so immediately that contradicts the "there's no competition in the mid range". and there is no "high end" from amd this time around because the high end chips got canned. not because their high end can only compete with midrange. they are simply only making midrange parts. all you have to do is look at the specs of n48 to figure this out. so idk where this "two generations behind" thing came from because amds midrange parts will be competing against nvidias midrange parts.
I was hoping to upgrade to 4k gaming this winter, but I might just stick with my 6700XT and 1440p gaming. If the Nvidia cards aren't a lot cheaper than I expect, they don't seem like good options. I was hoping for a decent AMD midrange option, but if the AMD layoffs are mostly from gaming, that may be a lousy option.
Specs below the 90 are very underwhelming.. yes... BUT .. I think the most changes to ada L are going to be software related.. Lets see what they drop.
its good that they are finally putting 16gb in the 4070ti. It really should be the minimum for everything except for maybe the 4060. I still doubt the 4070 ti will be worth buying, it will probably start at 800$
Here's the truth: There's no density improvement to logic or memory. No increase in die size to most of the range. It's a minimalist architectural upgrade that's going to leverage clock speed improvements and a new GDDR type to increase performance. The majority of the stack is not cut down, they're just weak upgrades. They're replacing the 4090 with an overgrown 5100.
Nvidia completely cheaped out on the low-end and midrange 40 Series GPUs. It will be the same case with the 50 Series if people are too stupid and don't bother to do any research before purchasing. Then they get all defensive when you tell them that low-end and midrange GPUs are gimped when it comes to hardware nowadays. Unless all consumers refuse to pay for this horrendously overpriced gimped hardware, prices will continue to skyrocket.
@@Gamer-q7v The rtx 4070 super for $600 plays everything at 4k at max settings with high fps so long as you use dlss and frame gen, i feel like people are complaining for no reason.
@@4evahodlingdoge226 People are not complaining for no reason. Idiots have just accepted this terrible market instead of giving criticism and backlash, which can sometimes make companies actually listen to consumers. The 4070 Super is a decent GPU, I won't deny that. However, it's definitely not a 4K GPU as it was never intended for that. It's more of a high refresh rate 1080p or 60+ FPS native 1440p ultra GPU, which is not bad. I guess it's ok for the price. The 4070 Ti is what the regular 4070 should have been.
yeah , me too, I could get 800 dollar 4070ti with crappy 12 gb, or spend 200 more for 7900xtx 24gb for 1000 in 2023... guess what I did... bye nvidia, gonna go play on my 7900xtx with 24gb with frame gen and fsr 3.1 ahhaha
@@olejakobaune8033 Yeah they don't care about gamers now, they'd rather sell the silicon to AI so will make the price performance on gaming cards as unattractive as possible.
I wanna say I bought my old GTX 970 for around $330 and it was like, 15-20% slower than the GTX 980. X70 class was amazing for cost:performance back then. This is no longer the case, sadly.
I complain about my 3060ti but I might just have to abuse that guy for another year or two because these 50xx series look terrible. I am not looking forward to paying 20% more under the guise of VRAM making it more expensive. This is simply NVIDIA cashing in hard on AI and datacenters. NVIDIA does not care about gaming any more, they have moved on to their next cash cow to drain dry.
I don't love the idea of a 12gb 5070. Maybe ddr 7 was have better memory compression available to it? Also the newest version of DLSS uses less vram than previous versions, but not by a lot. Also UE5 doesn't use a lot of vram and that seems like it's going to be the dominent game engine moving forwrd. On the other hand, PS5 pro now has 2gb of ddr5 to handle the OS, thus freeing up all 16gb of ddr6 for the gpu.
Not all of those 16GB can be used for games. PS5 Pro can use only 13,7GB. While PS5 uses 12,5GB. So there is only 1,2GB difference. Not much to change anything in PC gaming space.
@@cmoneytheman Guess you've been living under a rock on Mars or something. But that's exactly what a lot of PC gamers have been doing. It's been talked about all over the place. PC gamers aren't upgrading like they used to. So yes, he will probably keep using his "outdated" card. I know I have. I am still using the RTX 2070 Super I bought back in 2019. Why should anyone run out and drop $800-$1,000+ on a new GPU if they don't have to? Just so they don't have an "outdated" card? Most of the new games these days are trash. Full of cancerous woke garbage and poorly optimized relying on Nvidia RTX bloatware like DLSS to run games at a steady 60 fps even at 1080p. A resolution that is pretty much a standard these days and any game should run at a steady 60 fps at 1080 with at least high settings. The fact that these new games can't just proves they are poorly optimized trash. Just go ask Nvidia. Their stock prices fell like a rock a while back because people aren't upgrading. It's only soyboy consoomers that are running out buying a new GPU every 2 years.
The "4070 Ti SUPER" is what the 4070 should have been. And they're asking $800 for it. 😐 When tf did the 70-class jump from $329 (GTX 970) and $379 (GTX 1070) to $800 in just 3 generations? 😠 They're taking the piss is what.
Do you really expect Nvidia targetting the gaming market with a 5090 32GB 600W gpu? I'm not. Be happy if a 5090(D) 24GB 400W gpu is offered for a reasonable price. With such cut down card the yields should be ok.
If only everybody boycotted buying for a few months the jacket would be forced to reduce the price but he knows theres too many ****** lining up to pay until that stops like the 2000 3090ti non sales nothing will change
I've already moved to iGPUs. Nvidia priced me out of the market with the 40 series. APUs have gotten so good, and dedicated GPUs so expensive that I now see dedicated GPUs as only a thing to return to if I'm running a business that can profit off of them. No longer for gaming.
The excitement for next gen has gone, I've lost interest in buying a 5080, the specs aren't great, look like maybe a 25% uplift at best. Price will probably go back up to $1,199. Just can't get excited for that all. I'm on a 3080 now, and what excites me more now is buying a second hand 4080 when they flood the market. That or see how the 8800xt turns out, if its as powerful as the 4080 and costs $499 and fsr 4 turns out to be good that might be the way to go, but I can't help but think since nvidia is increasing prices Amd will just follow suite once again and it will be $599-$699 which would be a massive fail lol rather pay $599 second for a 4080
90-series exists to hold the performance crown and Nvidia knows they have enough of the most approval-seeking fanboys that will purchase whatever their top card is no matter the price. The rest of the product line is to sell to people who are at least somewhat more rational so they spread across price points that are realistic for them to get people to put up with.
So, these cards are going to cost a lot more than the 40 series whilst offering at best a marginal uplift in performance. Hmm. Sounds awfully tempting.
@Spr1ggan87 overpriced cuz ur wallet is small? The best performance doesn't come cheap. With anything in life. Yes we all want the best but sometimes we cant all afford the best. I can't buy a mansion, oh well that's my problem. I'm not whining about it. Just remember a 12gb 4070 msrp at launch was 599$ A 10gb 3080 was 699$ at launch back 4 yrs ago. And the 4070 has a 5% performance edge over the 3080. So the newest 70 series beats the old 80 series for 100$ less. Even a 4070ti beats a 3090. A 3090 was 1499$ at launch. Let that sink in. Stop buying a 1200$ iPhone every year for a marginally batter camera. Nobody bitches about that. It's the same thing. Keep and use it till it's truly out dated. Most don't game over 1440p on a single monitor. A 600$ 4070 is more than sufficient for its price point.
@@rkwjunior2298 Lmfao piss off with that pish, the 3080 was the flagship card at $699 when 30 series launched, *inb4 muh 3090*, it wasn't there at launch. The 4070 released late at it's price so the 4070 Ti is more appropriate comparison and it was $899. And no the latest leaks/rumours suggest that the 5070 will be slower than the 4080.
We need CUDA officially declared a monopoly for Nvidia, so AMD and intel can be allowed to fully implement it. That would go a long way towards making GPU's more reasonably priced again.
This guy can talk for 13 minutes straight without saying anything
Literally every single gaming tech youtuber on the platform earn a living out of talking complete waffle for 10+ minutes when they know just as much as we do and are purely speculating
@@astonblanche137yep but here you are still watching the video and helping them make more big bags . Just hush and don't watch simple 🙄
The makings of a career politician lol
@@madboi1591 Usually people do that when they realise they are talking in circles.
@@astonblanche137And we watch for the hopeum that we'll get some new insight in what will happen before it happens.
Remember when the 1060 was released at $249 then quickly dropped to $199-219 because the RX 480 launched? Now they're going to ask $1000 for it.
Even considering inflation, GPU prices raised at least 2 times.
@@stanislavkimov2779 There are online inflation calculators. The jump from the 1070 ($379) to 4070 ($600) was completely artificial.
Adjusted with inflation for the year and month it was released, it should have been $479. So a Benjamin more, not ALMOST DOUBLE! 😠 And consider the fact that the "4070" is really a 4060 in disguise. The "real" 4070 is now $800, called the "4070 Ti SUPER". 😠 So the jump is really from $379 to $800. Wtf, Nvidia? For a 70-class?! For a MID-RANGE product???
I hope they sell the 5090 at 5k. To see if gamers actually stop buying it...
So I’m lying, saying your card is outdated? I made that up?,You said I don’t know what I’m talking about, so I obviously made it up. Which model of the card do you have, and I’ll tell you how it's, in fact, outdated.
@@navisoul-oi8mo Many people probably would. Although, I'd assume it would overall be less profit than 2.000-2.500 Euros.
Hard to get excited for new GPUs when there are no good midrange value options! $700-$800 is not midrange lol!
When has price only have anything to do with specs?,I can give you a price of a card now nothing else,how will you automatically know the specs
You can buy an amd gpu on sale right now and get great performance, you don't need to wait on anything nvidia is producing.
The 6750 is on sale for $300 and 7800xt for $500, unless you're a high end buyer you don't need to wait.
I have a 7800xt in my wife's rig and it was a fantastic buy. Really the only midrange GPU that makes any sense price wise.
@@4evahodlingdoge226 Come on now, the 4070 super is worth the extra hundred over the 7800xt unless you're really pinching the pennies.
Remember when midrange was 150-300?
Leather jacket is getting greedier every day 😢
Quit buying Nvidia problem solved.
@@spacecommanderbear I don't think there has ever been a time activism has helped anything in gpu market. So while you might feel better, nothing happens.
@@spacecommanderbearyou can cry everyday about it, and it won't change.
@@Mrfiufaufou There has never been anything in the GPU market but Nvidia fan boy and provable market manipulation from Nvidia and there vendors. How many generations has it happened for how many people are brand bitches please save you're activism nonsense.
Leather jacket costs money.
It literally costs them less than $30 to add 8GB of VRAM to a card. For the 5080 to only have 16GB is absolutely disheartening. They REALLY want people to feel like they NEED to get the 5090.
No, it costs more. The memory bus needs to be expanded by to 384 bit. That means it costs silicon space on the die. It also costs power. 384 bit bus uses more power than 256 bit. It also has more problem with signal integrity. Which totals likely over $60-80 for manufacturing. And given they want to make a profit, usually equal to what something costs, and that profit being split between Nvidia, AIBs, and retailers, it would likely mean a GPU $150 more expensive. For what will essentially be an almost meaningless performance gain, since 99% of titles don't use more than 16GB, at settings you would ACTUALLY play at on this GPU.
If there is no efficiency improvement for the performance gained then these GPUs are a complete waste. The 4070ti pulled half the power of the 3090ti and beats it with a vram overclock. If the 5070ti just spits out more power for the performance gained then that’s a bad showing. NVIDIA is just trying to hard to make these lower class cards useless so that the 5090 can be milked
I'm waiting to what the Radeon 8800 xt is all about.
Bad part is ; that 80 class card is still going to be $1k+
Another couple of generations, another couple of price increases, soon we will be paying $699 - $799 (a 80 class price as early as the 30 series) for 60 class cards.
And people will still..... buy it.
Well ya, if you want an upgrade u have to buy it.
Whoever is buying a new GPU every year is dumb. Buy and hold for a couple generations at minimum.
Buy it or don't, nvidia does not care at this point. Consumer can speak with their wallet, but it won't impact nvidias bottom line.
Remember, they shifted the entire 4000 cards (except maybe the 4090) by 1-2 tiers, and they're going to shift them again by 1-2 tiers this generation.
What they call "5080" now, should have been the 5060! 😐 And they're going to ask $1000+ for it. For what should have been *THE 60-CLASS!!!* 😠
Wouldn't AMD be able to easily keep up if this was the case? Unless AMD is really bad or they are doing the same?
@@Vontigerstrom They're doing the exact same thing.
The 7900 XT should have been called the 7800 (non-"XT") and the 7800 XT should hv been called the 7700.
The whole thing is absurd. The weakest next gen card should be better than the strongest last gen card. 5060 > 4090 and so on.
@@gs-pd5ox The 60-class always competed with the prev-gen 80-class. The 1060 matched the 980. After that it went to shit.
I remember Leather Jacket Guy touting (tooting?) the 1070 as being _faster than the Titan X._ The "Titan" class is the 90-class now.
They made SURE not to make that mistake again after that. And because of that I never bought another GPU. None of the new cards were _interesting._ The GTX 1070 was INTERESTING. A $999 card released a few months earlier being matched by a $379 card. WHERE have you seen anything like that since? 😐 They've had ample opportunities to make the 3060 12GB available at a decent price. Because Samsung was making them for practically nothing. Instead they chose to pull them and they're rotting in some warehouses now, because they wanted to push the 4000 cads. 😠 And it looks like they succeeded, with the "4060" (which is really a 4030Ti worth sub-$100 not $300!!!) being #1 in the Steam Hardware Survey. Nvidiots fell for it.
"Nvidia, the way you're meant to be played."
And because of that they're gonna do it again in the future!
@@zdspider6778its called marketing and corporate greed, along with stupid people who fall for it.
To be completely honest, theres no reason to buy any new card unless you have a 10/20 series or amd variant. And I still wouldnt buy a new card. Id wait and buy a card that does what i need at the price thats worth its performance.
Besides, just like ps5/pro theres no games to be played anyways.
Most people who are buying the titans (4090/5090) are youtubers and people that watch them that want to wave their epeen.
I agree the 80 class cards have been egregiously cut down. Thats so these companies dont shoot themselves in the foot like when the 1080 ti happened.
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade with every single generation. It is okay to keep your money and skip a few, especially when incremental value per dollar looks underwhelming.
still rockin a 2080 ti. no ragrets
Not alot of new AAA games coming out that justify these new GPUs. I find myself playing my old ps2 and ps1 games more and more. Monster Hunter Wilds is the only game that half way has me excited.
How about Minecraft with ray tracing mods?
But ai does
basically NVIDA doing what apple does with their product like giving just enough so people will buy the next tier to make more money
All eyes on RDNA 4 as, in case AMD really does manage to deliver RTX 4080-like performance with the RDNA 4 flagship at half the price, that's actually gonna be something worth the hype for once. nVidia is completely out of touch at this time, not really worth bothering with unless you're getting their absolute highest-end model.
the lack of vram progression is pure greed
Thee gap between the 5080 and 5090 is stupid 😂
AMD is just gonna look at nvidia pricing and undercut it by a little bit, meanwhile offering less RT performance and worse upscaling quality.
They had all the chances in the past to really make the nvidia prices look dumb but they never do it.
I've been saying this for years.
AMD cards - equivalent to Nvidia in performance - should be 30-35% cheaper than Nvidia, not $30-35 cheaper. This is what AMD never understood. Or maybe they did and just didn't care. Maybe they never wanted more than 12% market share. Intel is eating THEIR lunch, not Nvidia's. Just look at the Steam Hardware Survey charts, dominated by Nvidia graphics cards.
Worse still, AMD pulled an Nvidia this generation. Not even mentioning that they copied Nvidia's pricing and shrinkflation/"enshittyfication" strategy. They literally waited for Nvidia to announce their prices before announcing theirs, based on Nvidia's.
And AMD also shifted their product stack, just like Nvidia: the "RX 7900 XT" should have been called the RX 7800 (non-"XT"). And the "RX 7800 XT" should have been called the RX 7700 (again, non-"XT"). And so on.
we need intel to cut this duopoly
They need to get that 5070 ti with 16 gigs down to $700 bucks.
Remember: The NVIDIA dGPU SKUs with half the memory bus of the flagship chip had been the xx60 models in the past.
I think the 5080 should have 24GB of VRam to be relevant.
Oh hush, would you be willing to pay for it? Do you even have any need for more than 16GB?
@@wolfstorm5394 Most games at 4k these days consume more than 16gb, especially with ray tracing, many games also have memory leaks which more VRAM can help offset for a longer time. 24GB would also mean that the card is better at being a work station which would be great for those that need to do video editing or animation but cannot afford a 5090 which you know for sure is going to be well over msrp and going for over 2000.
@@wolfstorm5394 Yes, so our $1000+ GPU lasts 5 to 6 years? Cause with less than 20GB, it will be dead in 2026 or 2027.
Ideally the 5080 should have 15360-16384 Cuda Cores, and 24GB GDDR7 VRAM. 16GB is way too little, 20gb is still not that good if its $1000 or more.
@@BlitzercupGaming Dude, 16GB of VRAM isn't going to prevent you from playing games for a very long time, now hush... y'all just whine and panick over nothing, go back some years and see how long 4GB and even less were useable, these days it's a VRAM craze...smh 🤣 if you really need a GPU with more than 16GB then I'm sure there will be options so just buy that
Eh, I'll just get a 7900GRE or a 4070 Super on a Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale.
Ah the 5070 and 5070ti... giving you 5060 tier performance for 5080 tier money... sounds like nviDOA
DLSS4 will be 50 series exclusive (excluding 5060/Ti). You read it here first.
Not sure if people have figured this out yet, but the drop off from the 90 class to the 80 class is because everything below the 90 class is a laptop card and chips that don’t pass for laptop use become your DIY cards
yeah dlss 4 that could work on all RTX gpus but it will only work for the 50 series so that we need to buy a 50 series just for that.... Thats prob what dlss 4 will be
Guess I'll just keep rocking my old GTX 1080 TI. I haven't been playing graphic heavy games anyway.
replace it with 4070 super ti
it will be much cheaper when 50 series arrives
@@mr.electronx9036 are you sure? cards like the used 3090 are still pretty expensive even though they are outperformed by cards like 4070 super
@@bagelthebeagle6925 because they fucked up VRAM on 40 series
Looking more and more like my 12GB 3080 will be a companion til death at this point.....
@@mr.electronx9036 Nvidia is not AMD.
they will still charge high prices.
unless you buy used GPU ~
Intel Arc is huge and good enough!
Bye bye NVidia, others can do what you do at a fair price!
My guess 5090 - MSRP $2499, limited supply and we be scalped for $4200 ish
100%
This dude has been living under a rock- price will be around 2k due to latest rumors, but I hope you get the chance to buy it for 2500 if that’s what you really want lol.
@@dolpoof2335 I think that same statement applies if you want to pay 2k for a graphics card, hey it's your money do whatever you want. 2k or 2.5k is too much either way.
For 1440P, I think I'll go back to team red this time. I'm not going to blindly pay the Jensen-tax in 2025.
pay the what??
@@rudy1999 the extra $100 so Jensen can buy new leather jackets
Only GPU needed is raw powered rx 8800xt with better RT for 500$..
I hereby rename the 5070 as the new 5050 Ti.
I'm so glad I am sitting out this series. I don't have to worry and get worked up about performance and prices. Good luck to those that want to buy one of the models in the 50xx series.
The prices are the fault of the consumer, if suckers keep spending they will keep charging top dollar.
Blame AI, Nvidia don't actually want to sell to gamers as they can sell the same silicon for 40x more to AI which is why they make the price unattractive.
@@JimmyChino55 This was a problem before AI.
What is more interesting is if Nvidia will release more features that are only coming to the 5000 series now that they are winding down 4000 series. Gotta create incentives for people to update and if 4000 series owners feel left out Nvidia might try to motivate them to upgrade 😢
Nvidia has become a joke for consumer GPUs, consumers are doomed if Intel stops discrete Arc
@@xlr555usaSure and Intel and AMD are not a joke.
What you think on which Performance Level of 4000er Rtx will be the 5070Ti? Maybe 4070Ti Super?
I'm currently still waiting until after CES, when all new mainboards, CPUs and GPUs are available. About to build a new system, and will most likely fully switch to AMD this time. My RTX 3060 already has 12 GB so there's no way i'd get a bigger nvidia GPU but stay at the same amount of VRAM or just slightly more (12-16GB). Also, nvidia's pricing is just so terribly expensive in the mid range already. Anyway, first quarter of 2025 will become really interesting! Cheers!
Another empty video. Thanks!
Didn't expect anything from these cards anyway. Or well I expected them to be like 3060->4060, barely any upgrade at all. How much faster do you think the 5070 will be compared to the 4070 super?
I think the PCIE v5.0 will reduce any stutters from "not enough vram" by 50%. 2x pcie bandwidth helpful for many algorithms. Also RT-cores or Tensor-cores could be stronger. The extra power budget could be taken by faster memory system. Or bigger L2 cache. Both increases FPS. Lastly, is 5000 series dual-issue pipeline like 4000 series? Or is it singular pipeline? Anyway, there are more pipelines, faster memory and more TDP. These combined should give more performance.
Where are the spec leaks for RX 8000 series...
The super version is using slightly better binned version than the TI version die, hence more rare. So I guess they have to build up stockpile of the die type before launching the super version. Hence the later release date. Not meant as a defense of NVIDA though. It is just production planning
BIG SHOCKER!
Nvidia is doing Nvidia things again.
This "5080" should be the 5070ti and cost $750!
The 5080 should have at least 20GB of Vram......
According to this, my 7900XT is still going to stay in midrange. I guess you need a x80 or x90 card to make a gen for gen upgrade that is reasonable. Realistically, a 5080 should be 4090 +10-15%, not 4080 +10-15%.
Pretty much nailed it months ago. 40 series all over again with the 90 class being the true leap and the rest just kinda existing to satisfy investors. Doesn't matter though because it will sell no matter the price.
Just a quick comment about the end of the video when you mentioned AMD, wouldn't you think since Nvidia and Intel coming with PCI5 that RX 8000 WOULD use GDDR7 as well? I could see maybe Intel using GDDR6 FOR Battlemage though. Just a thought I could be wrong
Best thing I ever did was to ditch nvidia for amd! When are nvidia going to learn that vram amounts needs to increase, pisses me off even more when you consider how much it would cost nvidia to do so
Dear friend @Frostie3672
Best thing I ever did was to ditch "nvidia/amd/intel" trio, and hold on to what I got in my pc.
I was trying to upgrade my graphics card (which is R9 380 from 2015) since 2018 but, first mining craze, than pandemy, than "price fixing crime" of triopoly, so I was keep delaying and postponing my purchase. "nvidia/amd/intel" trio stopped competing and abusing us (end users) with their price fixing crime, who knows since when?
Good luck to them overpricing their (already way too expensive) products once again.
I am not going to buy it...
They killed the market, congratulations to them...
4090 $2000+
4080 $1200-1300
4070 ti $800-900
4070 $700-800
4060 ti $500-600
4060 $450-500
4050 $350-400
Does anyone actually think that Nvidia won't do it... anyone?
What in the hell are you going to do with that much VRAM? Are you running AI models? Are you a professional that runs apps that eat up VRAM like it's tic tacs? My God most games today don't even use 10 GB and that's like hardcore AAA titles and even then they run fine on 8 GB and 6 GB models.
Plenty of new games use 10gb at 1080 now
@AndyViant and yet you'd still be just fine on an 8 GB video card. Also remember that what they allocate versus what they actually use are two different things. They may allocate more memory but not actually utilize it.
Somehow those games still play fine on 6th and 8 GB cards. I have two 16 GB cards and I have never even come close to using all of it. The highest I've ever hit was I think just under 11 GB. I have played the same game just fine with my 3080 10 GB and not noticed the missing VRAM at all.
So they'll launch the complete line-up in the first half of 2025. Does that include an RTX 5050?
Will a 5080 work with a pcie 4 motherboard? And also is the price expected to be 1000-1200?
just buy a 4070 TI super, if you don't want to buy a new MOBO lol
pcie is backwards compatible so it'll work just fine.
It will work, no need for pcie 5, pcie 4 has plenty of bandwidth for 5080.
OFA + CACHE + RT tweaks...
For regular RASTER it probably won't make much difference, but if you're trying to run a MODERN game using DLSS upscaling (i.e. 1080p->4K) plus PATH TRACING and maybe some Frame Gen (where applicable) I think the RTX50 cards will pull ahead a LOT compared to similar RTX40 cards. But an RTX5070 with only 12GB? That's going to be a problem.
Lets have a bet, DLSS 4.0 will only work on RTX 50
I doubt
Probably ray reconstruction 2.0 and that texture compression tech they've teased a while back
My Guess without watching till the end:
RTX-5090 = +60% over RTX-4090 - $2999.99
RTX-5090D = +40% over RTX-4090 - $2699.99
RTX-5080-Ti = +15% over RTX4090 - $1999.99
RTX-5080-Super = +10% over RTX4090 - $1599.99
RTX-5080 = +5% over RTX4090 - $1499.99
RTX-5070-Ti = -10% under RTX4090 $1199.99
RTX-5070 = RTX 4080 Super Performance, $999.99
RTX-5060-Ti = RTX 4070-Ti Super Performance, $699.99
RTX-5060 = +5% RTX 4070 Super Performance, $499.99
RTX-5040-Ti = -10% RTX 4070 GDDR6 Performance, $399.99
RTX-5040 = - RTX 4060-Ti Performance, $299.99
RTX-5030 = - RTX 3060 Performance, $179.99
RTX-5010 = RTX-3050-6GB Performance, $129.99
RTX-5080 = +5% over RTX4090 - $1499.99
Does not look that way. the 5080 cant match the 4090
Wouldn't be bad if the prices were similar to the 3000 series, if they are higher than the 4000 series they can get bent.
So cards re going to be compared by cost per frame from now on?
Can't wait to see the prices in a decade
With black friday lot of people are looking to buy a card, would love to see a comparison between the 50 series and the current AMD cards.
Amd cards will win but nvidia will be more inefficient, there's some great prices on amd cpus and gpus right now, for low to mid range buyers not sure why you're waiting for 50 series nvidia gpus.
No competition so… NVDA just needs to release a high end card and the same cards as last gen but just slightly better.
“No competition”. Yes…..at the high end.
The competition will be at the mid range to low end.
So the same but slightly better in that range wont cut it.
@@kapler8550 the AMD high end for next gen is basically gonna match a 4070 Ti Super or 5070 so… no competition in the midrange either. AMD 2 generations behind when RX 8000 launches. I guess in the midrange AMD will compete with the 5060 or 4070
yeah. 5090 is the real nextgen card while the others are just to compete with AMDs cards.
@@nick_g no?
top n48 will be (as you said) as fast as the 5070 or even faster. all the leaks are saying 7900xt level as a minimum. so immediately that contradicts the "there's no competition in the mid range".
and there is no "high end" from amd this time around because the high end chips got canned. not because their high end can only compete with midrange.
they are simply only making midrange parts. all you have to do is look at the specs of n48 to figure this out. so idk where this "two generations behind" thing came from because amds midrange parts will be competing against nvidias midrange parts.
@@dante19890 yeah pretty much this. id add in the 5080 too cause no was in hell is amd gonna catch that either lol.
I was hoping to upgrade to 4k gaming this winter, but I might just stick with my 6700XT and 1440p gaming.
If the Nvidia cards aren't a lot cheaper than I expect, they don't seem like good options.
I was hoping for a decent AMD midrange option, but if the AMD layoffs are mostly from gaming, that may be a lousy option.
All I need is a 4080 level card with 16gb of vram and around $600
So its gonna be 5080, 5070ti, 8800xt or Intel, if Intel really surprises me.
no 5050 ?
Specs below the 90 are very underwhelming.. yes... BUT .. I think the most changes to ada L are going to be software related.. Lets see what they drop.
its good that they are finally putting 16gb in the 4070ti. It really should be the minimum for everything except for maybe the 4060. I still doubt the 4070 ti will be worth buying, it will probably start at 800$
Here's the truth: There's no density improvement to logic or memory. No increase in die size to most of the range. It's a minimalist architectural upgrade that's going to leverage clock speed improvements and a new GDDR type to increase performance. The majority of the stack is not cut down, they're just weak upgrades. They're replacing the 4090 with an overgrown 5100.
Yep, you are correct, you read my mind. DUDE, STOP READING MY MIND!
The 5080 should've been a 5070 Ti and 5070 Ti a 5070.
The 5080 should've been a 5070 (49% of the 5090 cores is a 70-class card).
I've heard this song before....
Hmmm
4000 series?
Nvidia completely cheaped out on the low-end and midrange 40 Series GPUs. It will be the same case with the 50 Series if people are too stupid and don't bother to do any research before purchasing. Then they get all defensive when you tell them that low-end and midrange GPUs are gimped when it comes to hardware nowadays. Unless all consumers refuse to pay for this horrendously overpriced gimped hardware, prices will continue to skyrocket.
@@Gamer-q7v The rtx 4070 super for $600 plays everything at 4k at max settings with high fps so long as you use dlss and frame gen, i feel like people are complaining for no reason.
@@4evahodlingdoge226 People are not complaining for no reason. Idiots have just accepted this terrible market instead of giving criticism and backlash, which can sometimes make companies actually listen to consumers. The 4070 Super is a decent GPU, I won't deny that. However, it's definitely not a 4K GPU as it was never intended for that. It's more of a high refresh rate 1080p or 60+ FPS native 1440p ultra GPU, which is not bad. I guess it's ok for the price. The 4070 Ti is what the regular 4070 should have been.
Wasn't this video released yesterday?
No, this is new information
Nothing new from Nvidia 😅 thats why i would never buy any product from them ever again after the 30 series.
Ngreedia doesn't want me to buy a new card of theirs, how strange!.
yeah , me too, I could get 800 dollar 4070ti with crappy 12 gb, or spend 200 more for 7900xtx 24gb for 1000 in 2023... guess what I did... bye nvidia, gonna go play on my 7900xtx with 24gb with frame gen and fsr 3.1 ahhaha
compared to ai businesses they make 0 from gamers.
@@olejakobaune8033 Yeah they don't care about gamers now, they'd rather sell the silicon to AI so will make the price performance on gaming cards as unattractive as possible.
Looking Forward to buy an AMD or Intel Card next year
@8:57, the 5090 is reported to have 32gb ram...
Wonder how much difference GDDR7 is gonna make
About tree fiddy.
I wanna say I bought my old GTX 970 for around $330 and it was like, 15-20% slower than the GTX 980. X70 class was amazing for cost:performance back then. This is no longer the case, sadly.
i have SO high hopes that Intel and AMD will wipe the floor with Nvidea in the low and medium budged sector
I complain about my 3060ti but I might just have to abuse that guy for another year or two because these 50xx series look terrible. I am not looking forward to paying 20% more under the guise of VRAM making it more expensive. This is simply NVIDIA cashing in hard on AI and datacenters.
NVIDIA does not care about gaming any more, they have moved on to their next cash cow to drain dry.
I don't love the idea of a 12gb 5070. Maybe ddr 7 was have better memory compression available to it? Also the newest version of DLSS uses less vram than previous versions, but not by a lot. Also UE5 doesn't use a lot of vram and that seems like it's going to be the dominent game engine moving forwrd. On the other hand, PS5 pro now has 2gb of ddr5 to handle the OS, thus freeing up all 16gb of ddr6 for the gpu.
Not all of those 16GB can be used for games. PS5 Pro can use only 13,7GB. While PS5 uses 12,5GB. So there is only 1,2GB difference. Not much to change anything in PC gaming space.
@@stangamer1151 Interesting.
Nvidia relesases RTX 5090 = Festival of Scalpers
Don’t fret over the low end, just get the 5090
New cards are for rich people. Used cards are for budget gamers looking bang for buck...
Making asumptions based on rumors 😂 we all gonna cry its expensive and we all gonna buy anyway 😂
we not, you.
@@robinrufino8244so you’re keeping a outdated card?
@@cmoneytheman Guess you've been living under a rock on Mars or something. But that's exactly what a lot of PC gamers have been doing. It's been talked about all over the place. PC gamers aren't upgrading like they used to. So yes, he will probably keep using his "outdated" card. I know I have. I am still using the RTX 2070 Super I bought back in 2019. Why should anyone run out and drop $800-$1,000+ on a new GPU if they don't have to? Just so they don't have an "outdated" card? Most of the new games these days are trash. Full of cancerous woke garbage and poorly optimized relying on Nvidia RTX bloatware like DLSS to run games at a steady 60 fps even at 1080p. A resolution that is pretty much a standard these days and any game should run at a steady 60 fps at 1080 with at least high settings. The fact that these new games can't just proves they are poorly optimized trash. Just go ask Nvidia. Their stock prices fell like a rock a while back because people aren't upgrading. It's only soyboy consoomers that are running out buying a new GPU every 2 years.
@@wulfone5961 What the hell are you rambling about? Save your nonsensical rants for the awkward Christmas dinner that will surely arrive ya weirdo.
@@cmoneytheman And what happens if this "outdated card" is already enough for what I play
if the 5070ti can match a 4080 for less money ill be keen. also nvidia 100% will be doing some sorta AI gimic
sooo... wait for people to sell their 4090 s or just go for 4080 s?..
I sold my 3080ti for a used 4090. I use ultrawide and VR.
moore cuda cores not scaling very well from 4080 to 5080 😞
More expensive....how much are we talking😢?
Can't decide if i should get the 4070 Ti Super right now or wait for the 5070 Ti.
Just get the 7900xt at 600 and play games >_>
The "4070 Ti SUPER" is what the 4070 should have been. And they're asking $800 for it. 😐 When tf did the 70-class jump from $329 (GTX 970) and $379 (GTX 1070) to $800 in just 3 generations? 😠 They're taking the piss is what.
@@zdspider6778I found a 4070ti used for $450.00. Gotta look for used the new market is fked
I gotta 4070ti for 650 12gb video on my page u can have mine
@@JahonCrossWhy would he do that to himself?
Do you really expect Nvidia targetting the gaming market with a 5090 32GB 600W gpu? I'm not. Be happy if a 5090(D) 24GB 400W gpu is offered for a reasonable price. With such cut down card the yields should be ok.
This channel should be called RedYappingTech, guy wasted 13 minutes saying nothing
If only everybody boycotted buying for a few months the jacket would be forced to reduce the price but he knows theres too many ****** lining up to pay until that stops like the 2000 3090ti non sales nothing will change
naw its a pretty good upgrade for 80% of people. even for me with twin 4090s in my dual pc case.
I've already moved to iGPUs. Nvidia priced me out of the market with the 40 series.
APUs have gotten so good, and dedicated GPUs so expensive that I now see dedicated GPUs as only a thing to return to if I'm running a business that can profit off of them. No longer for gaming.
The excitement for next gen has gone, I've lost interest in buying a 5080, the specs aren't great, look like maybe a 25% uplift at best. Price will probably go back up to $1,199. Just can't get excited for that all. I'm on a 3080 now, and what excites me more now is buying a second hand 4080 when they flood the market. That or see how the 8800xt turns out, if its as powerful as the 4080 and costs $499 and fsr 4 turns out to be good that might be the way to go, but I can't help but think since nvidia is increasing prices Amd will just follow suite once again and it will be $599-$699 which would be a massive fail lol rather pay $599 second for a 4080
Soo basically Nvidia does what Intel did but in GPU market. Hopefully it will also give AMD enough time to chach up.
I need the 5080 no matter how much it costs and how cut down it is.
90-series exists to hold the performance crown and Nvidia knows they have enough of the most approval-seeking fanboys that will purchase whatever their top card is no matter the price. The rest of the product line is to sell to people who are at least somewhat more rational so they spread across price points that are realistic for them to get people to put up with.
Nice the 5090 will be way too expensive but everything below that will be pointless GJ NGreedia
8:21 The bottom of the Grand Canyon is over 2,000 feet above sea level…
look at rtx 5060 ti has the same die as 5070 gb205, so we can expect that 5060 ti to have 12 gb gddr7 like 5070(7:13)
So, these cards are going to cost a lot more than the 40 series whilst offering at best a marginal uplift in performance. Hmm. Sounds awfully tempting.
The 5090 is gonna crush the 4090, so I'm buying one
@@rkwjunior2298 The rest of the cards are going be shit and overpriced though instead of just overpriced like the 90 class are.
@Spr1ggan87 overpriced cuz ur wallet is small? The best performance doesn't come cheap. With anything in life. Yes we all want the best but sometimes we cant all afford the best. I can't buy a mansion, oh well that's my problem. I'm not whining about it.
Just remember a 12gb 4070 msrp at launch was 599$
A 10gb 3080 was 699$ at launch back 4 yrs ago. And the 4070 has a 5% performance edge over the 3080.
So the newest 70 series beats the old 80 series for 100$ less.
Even a 4070ti beats a 3090. A 3090 was 1499$ at launch.
Let that sink in.
Stop buying a 1200$ iPhone every year for a marginally batter camera. Nobody bitches about that. It's the same thing. Keep and use it till it's truly out dated.
Most don't game over 1440p on a single monitor. A 600$ 4070 is more than sufficient for its price point.
@@rkwjunior2298 Lmfao piss off with that pish, the 3080 was the flagship card at $699 when 30 series launched, *inb4 muh 3090*, it wasn't there at launch. The 4070 released late at it's price so the 4070 Ti is more appropriate comparison and it was $899.
And no the latest leaks/rumours suggest that the 5070 will be slower than the 4080.
Nvidia is the Apple of GPUs!
no worries, nvidia gave us overwhelming price instead
good luck getting a 5090 even if you can afford it!
We need CUDA officially declared a monopoly for Nvidia, so AMD and intel can be allowed to fully implement it. That would go a long way towards making GPU's more reasonably priced again.