My stepson had a KX85, and my 225lb butt was clocked at 60MPH on it. Then he stepped up to a steel framed YZ125, and I swear the front tire had been filled with helium. One day, I hope to graduate from my starter bike, a 2022 KLX300R, to a 2stroke. As a 43 year old just getting to know dirtbike life, I really enjoy this channel.
I went from the klx300r to a yz125x and i love it, super light, super agile, makes you a good rider fun-2-5 is where its at, im 235lbs pulls me around no problem
I had a 2022 KLX300R as well. At 47 years old, and coming from riding 2 strokes my entire life, that bike was just way too heavy. It flat out wore me out on trails. Picking it up from a dump was a chore.
@riccochet704 agreed the thing feels like riding an iron anchor incomparison i mean its obviously do able , but riding them back to back wow what a wild difference, also a learning curve if you havent rode 2 strokes before but yeah what a tank with lack of performance, although the klx torque is wild compared to a 125 lol
Owned the YZ250X. Have also owned a KTM, Honda, Suzuki and a Beta. Went back and purchased a 2024 YZ250X. Love the simplicity and RELIABILITY! I'm glad they haven't changed the bike!
I have been riding ktm for 7 years now, exc 125, exc 200, and now exc 250 tpi, never understood why they talk bad about ktm’s reliability. Never had one of them blow up or even not start. No electrical problems at all with tpi.
@@SeasideStranglerdefinitely if you want to tame it down just a bit, also keeps them from stalling as easily so yes, it’s a good idea on this unless your racing it. For trail riding you’ll want some weight on the FW. There’s also a power valve mod that mellows them out. Hope that helped I’ve had 2 and need another lol. I just wish they’d make a 200 I’m getting too old for the crazy hit.
@@deborahchesser7375 ya ive gotta 04 KX250 that i trail ride, its got an 11oz FW on it as well as a bunch of other trail stuff. Big tank, skid plate, handle bar covers the usual. I was just wondering how out of the box ready these YZ250Xs were for enduro compared to a KTM.
The 18inch wheel is nice tho ive still got a factory 19inch wheel on my KX and factory suspension. If i can never afford a KTM300 i may make those changes to my bike and possibly a rekluse clutch someday. At that point it would just be the bike i ride for the rest of my life. I never rode a new KTM but the KX is pretty sweet.
I am 48 yrs old weigh 205 and I ride a 2020 yz125x and I love it. Bike handles great and enough power for me. The suspension is way to soft for me on a motocross track but perfect in the woods. Highly recommended Yamaha's X models.
Have you rebuilt the bottom end yet? I’m @170 hours on my 23 model 250x. Changed top end at 140 and it looked perfect. Didn’t need to replace it tbh. Absolutely everything is still working perfectly
Even without the auto start and the TBI I have been on rides with so many KTMs and huskies that have broke down from all the new stuff they added. Sometimes the new stuff isn’t better.
@@EarthSurferUSA See my other comment above this one....but these new GAS GAS', Husqy's, Beta's and KTM's are definitely better (overall)! There's definitely going to be some things the Yammy does better for sure, but overall the other bikes take the cake as far as I can tell currently! But ofcourse that comes at a premium price tag 😢😅
When they E-start it , update the frame and all the other stuff, they'll take away the bikes biggest advantage : value. Yamaha sells every one of the X models. These bikes are all over the place because its thousands less than a Euro bike. Mx Action said it best" innovation is overrated " .98 % of riders will never know the difference in the frame. It worked good in 06 and it still works good now. I came off a KTM. I didn't miss the hydraulic clutch. The YZ clutch has light pull and great feel. Won't lie, I do miss the E start but the bike starts so easily it's not a deal killer. Suspension is the reason I'm still on my 16. I've had alot of bikes since 1986 and this one(yzx) is by far my favorite.
Exactly. When I cracked the case on my 03’, I knew it was time to get something new and more woods oriented. My options were either a KTM with 150 hours and 7-8k, or a 250x with a 70 hours and 4k. Having the nice fancy features would be great, but my level of riding is not dependent on those rn
You want a 10 grand bike?---buy a KTM. Heck, I have cancer now, and had a hard time starting my bike after I got out of the hospital. I did squats, and saved money. Will the crying you kids do--raise the cost of this semi affordable bike? Get another bike. Leave our wallets and manhood alone. How about you modify the bike the way you want it? (you might learn something valuable) I don't want your bike. Costs too much, causing a dying industry.
@@motominded5275 install wasn’t bad, just removed subframe and it was easy from there. Out of the box it ran better with the lectron at my altitude, only had to lean it out a bit.
@@matthutson880 Stock on my 250 YZ, the jetting was so rich, I thought the nmew jerseys did not clean dirt well when washed. They are oil droplets that came from the silencer! I modified the engine for more low end power, and raised compression, (have to run 100 octane.), and that cleaned up the stock jetting quite a bit. But I need to jet it a bit more. I bet, if you learned how to jet your stock carb, (and they are amazing metering devises), you might like the power delivery better than the lectron. Usually, a main jet and needle position change does a great job. I make little washers to go under the needle clip (1/4th the actual clip movement with each washer thickness) to fine tune the needle. There should be no drool, coming from the pipe, and only smoke a bit on start up.
@@EarthSurferUSA I’m sure you are right. I chose the lectron due to my needs. Lots of elevation changes 5000-9000 feet, can have 30 degree temp swings exc. I tried a bunch of settings and adjustments, could I dial in summer riding at 7500 feet, yep, would it run good at 5000 when it’s cold out? No I couldn’t find a combo, so for me the lectron works better across all my conditions without tinkering. For me that’s better.
The 250X are great bikes, but I think its time is up. Point and case, I snagged a 2023 EC250 for 8300 otd last year. Zero issues, and for tight woods I think its hard to beat, although my buddy with an '05 250X still smokes me. Thanks for the review.
@johnnydoeboy9301 I'm saying for the same amount of money you can get a bike that is immensely updated. But yeah, he smokes me lol, but he'd smoke me even more if he had my bike!
Comparing price to price, the 250x is still 4 grand cheaper (If we’re talking brand new) 11k for a ec250 vs a 250x for 8k? Idk what poor sales man you got fired for selling you a ec250 for 8k but man you got a deal. More power to you but I don’t think that’s the standard price people are getting them for at the moment.
@sendingit2601 I'm talking brand new, bought mine new old stock. They were getting rid of the '23s to make room for the 24s, seems like everyone wanted the 300s and not the 250s. I haggled a few dealerships against each other. Mine was marked down from msrp to 9999 then 8999. With enough back and forth I got them to 8499 otd, 0 hrs on it. Deals can be made this way, but ya have to work them.
@@zm12341 that clears it up a bit then. Though I feel the same could be said about if that situation was with a 23 yz250x and they were making room for the 24 models. If it was a 23 250x new old stock like you said, it would be way cheaper than 8k like you bought yours for. But still that’s sick you got such an updated bike for that price.
I am nearing 60 and bought a 2024 in November last year to race in our local GNCC series in the vets class here in South Africa. It is an absolutely brilliant bike! And I am leaving it stock. It is good enough.
I am 60, and bought a 2019 YZ250 2-stroke MX bike, and what a terrible bike stock it was to me. Way too tall for one thing, and the engine power is like a strong 125 in a effort to keep up with a 450 on a MX track---makes the bike great---for nothing. My mods. Lowered the seat 1". Lowered the suspension .75" on each end. (about the same height as a 1985 Works Honda now). Correct springs of course. FMF pipe Gnarley. Lower the cylinder by not using the cylinder base gasket (seal it well, with a good dealer). Raises compression (need 100 octane fuel), so exhaust port time better matches lower rpm pipe target. Big low end boost there. V-force reeds. The stock reed plate blocks off the 5th transfer tunnel about 50%, and the v-force reeds open earlier for more low end power. I can now short shift this bike with no clutch (190 lbs and stock gearing), and it won't fall on its face. Great, but not too explosive low end power now. Not sure if I need a flywheel weight, but I don't think so, or I would buy a trials bike. Now---I can ride this bike, and it is a dream. The bike does not vibrate as much with the engine mods (Use the Weisco piston), and my 60 year old had circulation does not numb my hands,---just a tad. Was pretty bad.
The value for money is off the charts. It it the best if money is no object? No, but it can compete against anything at any price and win, it just won't be the most luxurious.
I just hit the desert yesterday with my yz250f have been looking to get a 250 2 stroke for awhile and I think my time is up on the 250f. I’m 32 and have rode my whole life. I love my bike but I feel like an old man thanks to the kids. I’m really liking the reviews on the 250x
I hope Yamaha always sticks to simplicity for the 125 and 250. Always. Let the aftermarket handle anything the market may want. Want estart? Great, order a kit. Want a headlight? Great, order a kit. Simple as that.
Simple, light, reliable, powerful, and awesome suspension out of the box. I’ll gladly sacrifice e-start for that. And it’s affordable by current standards (I guesss😢). It’s an amazing platform to build from!
HITLIS offers a smooth no hit powerband kit for tour power valve. Makes it electric smooth. More power below mid hit. More control for mild to wild climbs.
Seems like a good vet bike. (As you mention as I wrote it) 67 yr old, used to race a Honda elsinore250 back in the day. Currently thrash a drz400s. Looking for a solid, value bike I can work on to go to the track. This may be it.
Man you must be in damn good shape to thrash a drz around. I’m 28 220 and half decent shape and that bike is a handful. I have the supermoto and I’ve brought that everywhere. That being said I also own a 250x, I’ve had it for 3 years. Bike owes me nothing. 136 hours and only one piston at 120 (didn’t need it) and tires and fluids and filters. Plenty of power. I just have an apex head with the xc dome and thing is docile when you want it to be and angry when you want it.
IMO , it just needs a e-start. i never had an X but i had on 07 that i essentially built into an X before the X existed. there was literally nowhere the bike didn't perform well. i didnt sell it until last year in exchange for a 300 GG The only reason i went to a gasgas 300 was for electric start. i also got the GG because i wanted the non composite sub frame , linkage rear , and spring front fork. (aka as close as i could get to replicating a YZ lol) fuel injection i feel is an added benefit , but as someone who grew up riding carbed bikes and turns his own wrenches i could easily live with out FI and separate fuel/oil tanks. but.... cant live with out e start now days. a few years ago i would have never noticed. Everyone was riding kickstart bikes too. but when your riding super knarly stuff and everyone around you is just pushing a button and taking back off and your trying to re start a dropped or stalled bike in a tricky spot you realize quickly how much more effort and time its taking you. effort being the major factor. if yamaha announces they are putting on a E-start , ill sell my gasgas and go back as soon as my order is reserved.
I have 16' YZ250X. It's pretty excellent. Just add pipe/silncer, head, heavyweight flywheel, setup your suspension, runs great. Lugs down low, great mid range. And two strokes start easy. One kick.
The best part about the YZX bikes is they cost less than the competition. A lot less. Just over $8k for the YZ250X versus it's nearest competition of the GasGas EX250 at $10,300.
Kyle, since a ton of people want a YZ(X) with electric start and all the goodies, can you get your hands on a Fantic for a giveaway/review? Also, do you ever ride NM? I’d love to go for a rip!
I wonder why you said that you would prefer the newer aluminum frames? What exactly do those frames offer that the current YZ250 doesn’t? If we are going by performance, everyone from McGrath to Reed have said that the steel framed YZ250 was the best of all of them.
I would love a dirt bike channel floor mat 6 x 12 if you make them?? I love watching this channel I learn a lot! The stuff you talk about on how to ride trails and stuff right is very appreciated and informative!! Thank you again and Leave a single track 🤙🏁
The YZ250 is nearly the perfect bike. Incredibly bulletproof and reliable, incredibly widespread and cheap parts, and there’s nothing more fun to ride than a 250 2-stroke
I really love your channel. What i would love to see if possible for us guys who do not have a huge budget is a GPX 250 and 300 2 stroke review. I would love to own KTM or Beta but.... the YZ-X definitely is closer as a budget minded bike. Thanks again for all your videos and as always ill be buying something hoping I win a bike.
Great review best bike for the weekend warrior on a budget, cost effective like you say. Buy this and just ride it, put many hours on it and then buy another.
Hi nice video i love yamaha. If you dont know Fantic just made XE 300 version wich is yamaha with starter hydraulic clutch and TBI. And one is still 5 speed transmission. The reason why is that yz 250 engine is tight so they cant fit 6 speed, they need to desing new engine and yamaha doesnt want to do that... but nice video
This is how I feel about the Honda CRF 250F I wish they offered their air cooled EFI trail bikes with better suspension, a brake like, hand guards, and a head light and a quick access air filter like the old Honda XR250 had…
I just bought a 250X 2024, and i SWEAR its more snappy down low than the 2022- less model!! Something they did about the new airbox, and also sounds different!
Thank you for the video. I am 58 years old at 210lb's. Do you mind sharing your weight and if you put a stiffer spring on the rear suspension. I am getting ready to buy a yz250 vs yz250x and trying to decide. Thanks, Roger
I can’t beleive your boy is on a 125. Let me tell you there is no better time in your whole life of riding if you start young than your 125 days. You learn how to ride a big bike and the modern ones rip and run well. Be safe guys
Kyle, I am curious if 2 smokers have to meet any emission standards in the US or EU? I thought there is the compliance rating, is this correct or my fading memory? Also, is there an electric starter retrofit kit for the YZ250X? Thx.
I have a 2011 CRF450R that has rekluse clutch and EVO air suspension. However im thinking of getting the 250X for trails bc the 450 is just to heavy to move around. What are your thoughts on this bike with the rekluse for PNW single track?
It’s as easy as it gets. Keep the air filter clean, change the gear oil every 15-25 hours, and a simple top end at 150-200 hrs. Besides lube the chain and very occasionally replace fork oil/fork seals that’s about it.
Not sure the conversion rates but I’m looking at a 22 yz250x here in Illinois for $5250! That’s a crazy price for a bike that seemed to be well maintained.
Ya updates would be nice. And people complain about the price if it from a technology vs dollar perspective. But they ignore the price to build it and supply it. Isn't significantly less just because of its lack of r&d. Inflation for cost of everything since 2006.. 99.. w.e Raw materials, labor, parts vendors, shipping, tarrifs, dealer fee's.. ext.
I personally would recommend a yz125x, yz250fx or wr250 (in that order) for you. A yz250x would be a handful for you unless you have sections where it’s more wide open and can get on throttle without much risk of going past your skill limit.
I'm not a hater, but I am sad that they didn't do fuel injection and electric start 😕 for the type of riding I'm doing and the area I'm in, I NEED electric start. I REALLY LOVE what they did with the FX's....Sucks because I really wanted to get a Yamaha, but unless I get the 250FX (still a strong possibility)....I'll probably end up with a Husqy TE250, KTM 250 XCW, or their 150's, GAS GAS 250, or BETA 200RR! Rode my buddie's 2023 TE250 today and it was how I envision a trail focused 2 smoker bike should be for the most part as it was his personal bike and not mine! And I knkw the KYB's are really good suspension on the Yamaha's which is very nice. All that being said I still need to ride a 250FX, and some of the other bikes mentioned to come to a final conclusion, but it's good to know that more than likely the only 4 stroke I'm really even considering is the Yamaha 250FX.....Even though the KTM 350's are super sick and the "perfect" all around 4 stroke bike for pretty much anything! My brother is getting rid of his KTM 690SM, and his 02 200 EXC to (more than likely) grab a newer KTM 350 XCFW, so I'll be able to try his bike out and compare that the whenever I'm able to snag a newer 250FX to test out (If he ends up with the 350 that is). Thanks for the video! And no! I will not get off the single track 😘
They say they are more reliable than austrians, but i havent had any reliability problems in my 7 years of riding ktm’s. My 250 tpi has alot of electric thing for sure like e start, fuel injection etc, but they never have gave me any problems. Never blew up either.
Bought this bike as my first bike, had rode a little bit before but finally got my own. I will admit, it’s a lot of bike to learn on, had my fair share of eating shit lol. I’m at the point now where i’m comfortable on the bike and can actually ride. It’s the most fun I’ve had in a while, every time you twist that throttle around it just puts a huge smile on your face, and the smell don’t even get me started on. I don’t think i’ll ever buy a 4 stroke🤙🏻
On single track that bike will wear you down super fast without suspension work. Engine is super strong, no argument there but the suspension is not single track friendly in stock form, it’s way too hard. But agreed, tried tested and true bike for sure. Put electric start, bark busters, a headlight and soften the suspension then it’s a real enduro contender.
I never heard anybody "reason" when we rotate our bars so far forward, (starting after freestyle took off in the mid 90's. Are we sheep?) I guess we think we have better control going into corners with a high freestyle set up that was meant for trick clearance. You don't. Our handlebar/lever set up has become dysfunctional, and that is why nobody can explain why a high bar set up gives more control, while we crash more. Try rotating them back so the ends of the grips are pointing down a bit, (Your natural hand position actually, as the bars are designed), and lower your level levers about 10 degrees, (straight line from your fingers on the elvers, to you high elbows, as best you can.), and you will find it is much easier to keep you elbows up, the front end will be less twitchy, and your corner speed should increase. The damn bike is too tall for the woods also, (probably the tallest bike made today). So your corner speed and control could be much better that riding this sky scrapper. I have never had to do so much work to a 250cc MX bike, to make it ride able. But now it is way better than the stock YZ250 today, that is not really great for anything. My motor mods turned my YZ from a 125 like screamer, (not going to keep up with 450's on a modern track anyway.), to a lower end "short shifter" (can shift fast with out bogging, 190lbs, stock gearing.), that does not fall on its face, banging the next gears with no clutch. I think I have the best woods bike set up for the YZ250 2-strokes. So easy to ride well. :) Doug in Michigan
My stepson had a KX85, and my 225lb butt was clocked at 60MPH on it. Then he stepped up to a steel framed YZ125, and I swear the front tire had been filled with helium. One day, I hope to graduate from my starter bike, a 2022 KLX300R, to a 2stroke. As a 43 year old just getting to know dirtbike life, I really enjoy this channel.
I went from the klx300r to a yz125x and i love it, super light, super agile, makes you a good rider fun-2-5 is where its at, im 235lbs pulls me around no problem
Once you go two stroke you won’t regret it cheap and fast and fun . Never too late .
At 200lbs I went from a 2018 kx450 to a 2023 GasGas mc125. The 125 pulls me no problem and is much more fun and usable in trails as well.
I had a 2022 KLX300R as well. At 47 years old, and coming from riding 2 strokes my entire life, that bike was just way too heavy. It flat out wore me out on trails. Picking it up from a dump was a chore.
@riccochet704 agreed the thing feels like riding an iron anchor incomparison i mean its obviously do able , but riding them back to back wow what a wild difference, also a learning curve if you havent rode 2 strokes before but yeah what a tank with lack of performance, although the klx torque is wild compared to a 125 lol
Owned the YZ250X. Have also owned a KTM, Honda, Suzuki and a Beta. Went back and purchased a 2024 YZ250X. Love the simplicity and RELIABILITY! I'm glad they haven't changed the bike!
I have been riding ktm for 7 years now, exc 125, exc 200, and now exc 250 tpi, never understood why they talk bad about ktm’s reliability. Never had one of them blow up or even not start. No electrical problems at all with tpi.
Whats the flywheel like on these? Are the factory weight or would the benefit from a weight?
@@SeasideStranglerdefinitely if you want to tame it down just a bit, also keeps them from stalling as easily so yes, it’s a good idea on this unless your racing it. For trail riding you’ll want some weight on the FW. There’s also a power valve mod that mellows them out. Hope that helped I’ve had 2 and need another lol. I just wish they’d make a 200 I’m getting too old for the crazy hit.
@@deborahchesser7375 ya ive gotta 04 KX250 that i trail ride, its got an 11oz FW on it as well as a bunch of other trail stuff. Big tank, skid plate, handle bar covers the usual. I was just wondering how out of the box ready these YZ250Xs were for enduro compared to a KTM.
The 18inch wheel is nice tho ive still got a factory 19inch wheel on my KX and factory suspension. If i can never afford a KTM300 i may make those changes to my bike and possibly a rekluse clutch someday. At that point it would just be the bike i ride for the rest of my life. I never rode a new KTM but the KX is pretty sweet.
I am 48 yrs old weigh 205 and I ride a 2020 yz125x and I love it. Bike handles great and enough power for me. The suspension is way to soft for me on a motocross track but perfect in the woods. Highly recommended Yamaha's X models.
I have a 2019 X and absolutely love it. It is such a fun bike to ride, just leaves you replaying the ride in your head for days after.
Have you rebuilt the bottom end yet? I’m @170 hours on my 23 model 250x. Changed top end at 140 and it looked perfect. Didn’t need to replace it tbh. Absolutely everything is still working perfectly
Great perspective, sometimes you forget about the type of bikes you grew up riding and it’s fun we can still buy them new.
Even without the auto start and the TBI I have been on rides with so many KTMs and huskies that have broke down from all the new stuff they added. Sometimes the new stuff isn’t better.
Today, most of the new stuff is not better IMO, from quality to design.
@@EarthSurferUSA See my other comment above this one....but these new GAS GAS', Husqy's, Beta's and KTM's are definitely better (overall)! There's definitely going to be some things the Yammy does better for sure, but overall the other bikes take the cake as far as I can tell currently! But ofcourse that comes at a premium price tag 😢😅
My 2017 YZ250X is the best bike iv ever ridden and has never let me down. Im never selling it because im honestly in love with it
When they E-start it , update the frame and all the other stuff, they'll take away the bikes biggest advantage : value. Yamaha sells every one of the X models. These bikes are all over the place because its thousands less than a Euro bike. Mx Action said it best" innovation is overrated " .98 % of riders will never know the difference in the frame. It worked good in 06 and it still works good now. I came off a KTM. I didn't miss the hydraulic clutch. The YZ clutch has light pull and great feel. Won't lie, I do miss the E start but the bike starts so easily it's not a deal killer. Suspension is the reason I'm still on my 16. I've had alot of bikes since 1986 and this one(yzx) is by far my favorite.
Exactly. When I cracked the case on my 03’, I knew it was time to get something new and more woods oriented. My options were either a KTM with 150 hours and 7-8k, or a 250x with a 70 hours and 4k. Having the nice fancy features would be great, but my level of riding is not dependent on those rn
Love my '23 YZ250x. It could use some updates like E start and a lighting set up from the factory. but fantastic bike overall
Panthera motors is making an electric start and a lighting coil for '03 and newer yz250s. Pretty expensive though.
You want a 10 grand bike?---buy a KTM. Heck, I have cancer now, and had a hard time starting my bike after I got out of the hospital. I did squats, and saved money. Will the crying you kids do--raise the cost of this semi affordable bike? Get another bike. Leave our wallets and manhood alone.
How about you modify the bike the way you want it? (you might learn something valuable) I don't want your bike. Costs too much, causing a dying industry.
@@patrickkearney8774yea ive seen quite a few of em now with the electric start.
I really like my 23 250x. Pulls my 220lbs all over Colorado with a lectron!
how's the lectron do on that? easy to install, setup and adjust for altitude?
@@motominded5275 install wasn’t bad, just removed subframe and it was easy from there. Out of the box it ran better with the lectron at my altitude, only had to lean it out a bit.
@@matthutson880 Stock on my 250 YZ, the jetting was so rich, I thought the nmew jerseys did not clean dirt well when washed. They are oil droplets that came from the silencer! I modified the engine for more low end power, and raised compression, (have to run 100 octane.), and that cleaned up the stock jetting quite a bit. But I need to jet it a bit more. I bet, if you learned how to jet your stock carb, (and they are amazing metering devises), you might like the power delivery better than the lectron. Usually, a main jet and needle position change does a great job. I make little washers to go under the needle clip (1/4th the actual clip movement with each washer thickness) to fine tune the needle. There should be no drool, coming from the pipe, and only smoke a bit on start up.
@@EarthSurferUSA I’m sure you are right. I chose the lectron due to my needs. Lots of elevation changes 5000-9000 feet, can have 30 degree temp swings exc. I tried a bunch of settings and adjustments, could I dial in summer riding at 7500 feet, yep, would it run good at 5000 when it’s cold out? No I couldn’t find a combo, so for me the lectron works better across all my conditions without tinkering. For me that’s better.
@@motominded5275 from experience on my old 03’, I’m glad I put it in. Made the bike feel way snappier and I didn’t have to fiddle with it constantly
And it still has a kick start 😉
Setup
-Apex Head
-Apex jetting chart
-GYTR Yamaha flywheel
-14/51 gearing
-Set sag /make small adjustments to suspension settings
The 250X are great bikes, but I think its time is up. Point and case, I snagged a 2023 EC250 for 8300 otd last year. Zero issues, and for tight woods I think its hard to beat, although my buddy with an '05 250X still smokes me. Thanks for the review.
So you’re saying it needs to be updated but a bike almost 20 years old still smokes you… righttttttt
@johnnydoeboy9301 I'm saying for the same amount of money you can get a bike that is immensely updated. But yeah, he smokes me lol, but he'd smoke me even more if he had my bike!
Comparing price to price, the 250x is still 4 grand cheaper (If we’re talking brand new) 11k for a ec250 vs a 250x for 8k? Idk what poor sales man you got fired for selling you a ec250 for 8k but man you got a deal. More power to you but I don’t think that’s the standard price people are getting them for at the moment.
@sendingit2601 I'm talking brand new, bought mine new old stock. They were getting rid of the '23s to make room for the 24s, seems like everyone wanted the 300s and not the 250s. I haggled a few dealerships against each other. Mine was marked down from msrp to 9999 then 8999. With enough back and forth I got them to 8499 otd, 0 hrs on it. Deals can be made this way, but ya have to work them.
@@zm12341 that clears it up a bit then. Though I feel the same could be said about if that situation was with a 23 yz250x and they were making room for the 24 models. If it was a 23 250x new old stock like you said, it would be way cheaper than 8k like you bought yours for. But still that’s sick you got such an updated bike for that price.
This video is what I needed! Picking one up this week!! Getting back into bikes.
Did you do it?
@@Backyard_KLX Sure did!
@@wva_trucks2336 awesome!!! I was looking at the klx 300r and so many people have said it’s way too heavy, looking at either the 125 or 250x
@@wva_trucks2336 I' picking one up on Friday. Just getting back into dirt as well. Good luck with yours.
I am nearing 60 and bought a 2024 in November last year to race in our local GNCC series in the vets class here in South Africa. It is an absolutely brilliant bike! And I am leaving it stock. It is good enough.
I am 60, and bought a 2019 YZ250 2-stroke MX bike, and what a terrible bike stock it was to me. Way too tall for one thing, and the engine power is like a strong 125 in a effort to keep up with a 450 on a MX track---makes the bike great---for nothing. My mods.
Lowered the seat 1".
Lowered the suspension .75" on each end. (about the same height as a 1985 Works Honda now). Correct springs of course.
FMF pipe Gnarley.
Lower the cylinder by not using the cylinder base gasket (seal it well, with a good dealer). Raises compression (need 100 octane fuel), so exhaust port time better matches lower rpm pipe target. Big low end boost there.
V-force reeds. The stock reed plate blocks off the 5th transfer tunnel about 50%, and the v-force reeds open earlier for more low end power.
I can now short shift this bike with no clutch (190 lbs and stock gearing), and it won't fall on its face. Great, but not too explosive low end power now. Not sure if I need a flywheel weight, but I don't think so, or I would buy a trials bike.
Now---I can ride this bike, and it is a dream.
The bike does not vibrate as much with the engine mods (Use the Weisco piston), and my 60 year old had circulation does not numb my hands,---just a tad. Was pretty bad.
God I would love to hear about GNCC is South Africa. That sounds so damn cool
The value for money is off the charts. It it the best if money is no object? No, but it can compete against anything at any price and win, it just won't be the most luxurious.
I just hit the desert yesterday with my yz250f have been looking to get a 250 2 stroke for awhile and I think my time is up on the 250f. I’m 32 and have rode my whole life. I love my bike but I feel like an old man thanks to the kids. I’m really liking the reviews on the 250x
Had a 85 125 and 250 2 strokes. Love my Yamahas. Very snappy
I hope Yamaha always sticks to simplicity for the 125 and 250. Always. Let the aftermarket handle anything the market may want. Want estart? Great, order a kit. Want a headlight? Great, order a kit. Simple as that.
But these poor terribly educated sabotaged kids today---don't know which way to turn a screw,---and they don't want to learn.
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Kickstart Kenny shows a Kickstart is fine...... yz starts easier then any 4 stroke
Thanks for doing this video, Kyle. I haven't been watching much of your content for a long time, but this is great! (I have a 250x)
Fisch Moto has a pretty sweet electric start kit for the 250!
I wish the 250X had a 6 speed transmission, headlight, but kept the kickstarter.
Simple, light, reliable, powerful, and awesome suspension out of the box. I’ll gladly sacrifice e-start for that. And it’s affordable by current standards (I guesss😢). It’s an amazing platform to build from!
HITLIS offers a smooth no hit powerband kit for tour power valve. Makes it electric smooth. More power below mid hit. More control for mild to wild climbs.
Love seeing Connor in yer videos Kyle 👍
I have written 2 strokes for more than 45 years.
Still the best bikes there are for off road
Sometimes simplicity is bliss, why? Easy to understand, and up keep!
Seems like a good vet bike. (As you mention as I wrote it) 67 yr old, used to race a Honda elsinore250 back in the day. Currently thrash a drz400s. Looking for a solid, value bike I can work on to go to the track. This may be it.
Man you must be in damn good shape to thrash a drz around. I’m 28 220 and half decent shape and that bike is a handful. I have the supermoto and I’ve brought that everywhere. That being said I also own a 250x, I’ve had it for 3 years. Bike owes me nothing. 136 hours and only one piston at 120 (didn’t need it) and tires and fluids and filters. Plenty of power. I just have an apex head with the xc dome and thing is docile when you want it to be and angry when you want it.
IMO , it just needs a e-start. i never had an X but i had on 07 that i essentially built into an X before the X existed. there was literally nowhere the bike didn't perform well. i didnt sell it until last year in exchange for a 300 GG
The only reason i went to a gasgas 300 was for electric start. i also got the GG because i wanted the non composite sub frame , linkage rear , and spring front fork. (aka as close as i could get to replicating a YZ lol) fuel injection i feel is an added benefit , but as someone who grew up riding carbed bikes and turns his own wrenches i could easily live with out FI and separate fuel/oil tanks. but.... cant live with out e start now days. a few years ago i would have never noticed. Everyone was riding kickstart bikes too. but when your riding super knarly stuff and everyone around you is just pushing a button and taking back off and your trying to re start a dropped or stalled bike in a tricky spot you realize quickly how much more effort and time its taking you. effort being the major factor.
if yamaha announces they are putting on a E-start , ill sell my gasgas and go back as soon as my order is reserved.
^this.
I have 16' YZ250X. It's pretty excellent. Just add pipe/silncer, head, heavyweight flywheel, setup your suspension, runs great. Lugs down low, great mid range. And two strokes start easy. One kick.
How critical to the performance was the head and flywheel? I’m considering those rn
The best part about the YZX bikes is they cost less than the competition. A lot less. Just over $8k for the YZ250X versus it's nearest competition of the GasGas EX250 at $10,300.
I just got a 24 GG ex300 9500 out the door
The Austrian brands have great deals for prior year models which brings it back down to yz prices though
Thanks for coming on this side of the country Kyle! Its cool to see different parts of the country.
How about a small sample of how great they sound?
I had a '96 WR-250 and it was one of the best bikes I've ever owned or ridden, real shame that Yamaha isn't offering that transmission.
I was able to buy a used 2019 yz 250x. Its my first big bike in 10 years, and I love it, I literally can't get enough of it
Same here
Just went from a 03 250 to a 19 250x. Just so much damn fun in the woods and way easier to control and fine tune
Kyle, since a ton of people want a YZ(X) with electric start and all the goodies, can you get your hands on a Fantic for a giveaway/review? Also, do you ever ride NM? I’d love to go for a rip!
I wonder why you said that you would prefer the newer aluminum frames? What exactly do those frames offer that the current YZ250 doesn’t? If we are going by performance, everyone from McGrath to Reed have said that the steel framed YZ250 was the best of all of them.
I have an 04 YZ250 and an 06... both absolutely still rip and are so fun to ride. My next bike will likely be a new YZ250x
My first 2 stroke was 1976 yamaha MX 400. They just sound like "Freedom" 😊
I would love a dirt bike channel floor mat 6 x 12 if you make them?? I love watching this channel I learn a lot! The stuff you talk about on how to ride trails and stuff right is very appreciated and informative!! Thank you again and Leave a single track 🤙🏁
The YZ250 is nearly the perfect bike. Incredibly bulletproof and reliable, incredibly widespread and cheap parts, and there’s nothing more fun to ride than a 250 2-stroke
Can you add an electric start?
buy a ktm...
Yes, you can. I think atleast 1, maybe 2 companies have them for sale
Simply a great cheap capable bike👍
The frame in the fx are way heavier and the 2 stroke doesn't need that to house it.
Hey Kyle, Great review, but im curious why you're not reviewing your giveaway bikes? Do you guys still have a ton of snow or something?
I really love your channel. What i would love to see if possible for us guys who do not have a huge budget is a GPX 250 and 300 2 stroke review. I would love to own KTM or Beta but.... the YZ-X definitely is closer as a budget minded bike. Thanks again for all your videos and as always ill be buying something hoping I win a bike.
If Yami went as far as e-start they should make it a 300 and add a few oz to the fw, update the mapping .
Great review best bike for the weekend warrior on a budget, cost effective like you say. Buy this and just ride it, put many hours on it and then buy another.
Doesn't Pantera make electric start for those bikes?
I bet it would be heavier with the 4t frames
Hi nice video i love yamaha. If you dont know Fantic just made XE 300 version wich is yamaha with starter hydraulic clutch and TBI. And one is still 5 speed transmission. The reason why is that yz 250 engine is tight so they cant fit 6 speed, they need to desing new engine and yamaha doesnt want to do that... but nice video
This is how I feel about the Honda CRF 250F I wish they offered their air cooled EFI trail bikes with better suspension, a brake like, hand guards, and a head light and a quick access air filter like the old Honda XR250 had…
I think the 250 needs to come with the gytr flywheel.
I agree with everything you said this was a good presentation and that looks like a good piece of gear
If you change the flywheel, valve spring control unit, head and exhaust you have a yz cross right?
This isn't available as a 2-stroke in Europe? Same with the KTM XC model it seems.
I'm looking to get back into riding at 57 years old. I know what I'll be buying now.
You end up getting one?
Alleviation = no big deal, you’ll adapt quickly
Was this a public event or private
If it was electric start it would be great. Yamaha is really missing out on a lot of sales because of it.
Make it electric start just got into 2 strokes. Got a husky te 300 2024. I love it. But if Yamaha did electric start,I wouldve done Yamaha
I considered the Yamaha but no electric start, that made it a deal breaker. Just put an e-start and I'll buy a Yamaha
To eachs own. I don’t mind no electric start when I get to keep 3k in my pocket
why new frame for 250x is on your list? Isnt old good enough?
I just bought a 250X 2024, and i SWEAR its more snappy down low than the 2022- less model!! Something they did about the new airbox, and also sounds different!
The airbox redesign actually added some hidden horsepower than the previous airbox!
Dude at the dealership told me it's a 6spd. Like sure dude. If you count neutral as a gear
When is the beta gonna get a video
Thank you for the video. I am 58 years old at 210lb's. Do you mind sharing your weight and if you put a stiffer spring on the rear suspension. I am getting ready to buy a yz250 vs yz250x and trying to decide. Thanks, Roger
Why can't we buy the X models in Europe or the UK?
I can’t beleive your boy is on a 125. Let me tell you there is no better time in your whole life of riding if you start young than your 125 days. You learn how to ride a big bike and the modern ones rip and run well. Be safe guys
Kyle, I am curious if 2 smokers have to meet any emission standards in the US or EU? I thought there is the compliance rating, is this correct or my fading memory? Also, is there an electric starter retrofit kit for the YZ250X? Thx.
I have a 2011 CRF450R that has rekluse clutch and EVO air suspension. However im thinking of getting the 250X for trails bc the 450 is just to heavy to move around. What are your thoughts on this bike with the rekluse for PNW single track?
What’s the Maintence schedule on this bike? Would love to have one as a trail bike with my son but don’t want a ton of Maintence every time I ride.
It’s as easy as it gets. Keep the air filter clean, change the gear oil every 15-25 hours, and a simple top end at 150-200 hrs. Besides lube the chain and very occasionally replace fork oil/fork seals that’s about it.
17000 CAD for a ktm 11,000 for a yz250x. That’s why I just bought a 25 250x and honestly I like the simplicity
Not sure the conversion rates but I’m looking at a 22 yz250x here in Illinois for $5250! That’s a crazy price for a bike that seemed to be well maintained.
@ prices are crazy here. You should see what people sell banshees for
Ya updates would be nice. And people complain about the price if it from a technology vs dollar perspective. But they ignore the price to build it and supply it. Isn't significantly less just because of its lack of r&d.
Inflation for cost of everything since 2006.. 99.. w.e
Raw materials, labor, parts vendors, shipping, tarrifs, dealer fee's.. ext.
If I’m a novice rider and mainly will ride in the woods will the wr250f be better?
I personally would recommend a yz125x, yz250fx or wr250 (in that order) for you. A yz250x would be a handful for you unless you have sections where it’s more wide open and can get on throttle without much risk of going past your skill limit.
I'm not a hater, but I am sad that they didn't do fuel injection and electric start 😕 for the type of riding I'm doing and the area I'm in, I NEED electric start. I REALLY LOVE what they did with the FX's....Sucks because I really wanted to get a Yamaha, but unless I get the 250FX (still a strong possibility)....I'll probably end up with a Husqy TE250, KTM 250 XCW, or their 150's, GAS GAS 250, or BETA 200RR! Rode my buddie's 2023 TE250 today and it was how I envision a trail focused 2 smoker bike should be for the most part as it was his personal bike and not mine! And I knkw the KYB's are really good suspension on the Yamaha's which is very nice.
All that being said I still need to ride a 250FX, and some of the other bikes mentioned to come to a final conclusion, but it's good to know that more than likely the only 4 stroke I'm really even considering is the Yamaha 250FX.....Even though the KTM 350's are super sick and the "perfect" all around 4 stroke bike for pretty much anything! My brother is getting rid of his KTM 690SM, and his 02 200 EXC to (more than likely) grab a newer KTM 350 XCFW, so I'll be able to try his bike out and compare that the whenever I'm able to snag a newer 250FX to test out (If he ends up with the 350 that is). Thanks for the video! And no! I will not get off the single track 😘
what is the best way to get into buying a dirtbike?
Fb marketplace
these things rip! They are so reliable.
Is it more reliable than Austrian 250s or 300s?
They say they are more reliable than austrians, but i havent had any reliability problems in my 7 years of riding ktm’s. My 250 tpi has alot of electric thing for sure like e start, fuel injection etc, but they never have gave me any problems. Never blew up either.
Same here. 2017 300xcw never had a problem
Hard enduro with a no starter is a no go.
yz250 for XC
Yea I completely understand that aspect
Bought this bike as my first bike, had rode a little bit before but finally got my own. I will admit, it’s a lot of bike to learn on, had my fair share of eating shit lol. I’m at the point now where i’m comfortable on the bike and can actually ride. It’s the most fun I’ve had in a while, every time you twist that throttle around it just puts a huge smile on your face, and the smell don’t even get me started on. I don’t think i’ll ever buy a 4 stroke🤙🏻
Unfortunately not available in europe
Love these bikes!
On single track that bike will wear you down super fast without suspension work. Engine is super strong, no argument there but the suspension is not single track friendly in stock form, it’s way too hard. But agreed, tried tested and true bike for sure. Put electric start, bark busters, a headlight and soften the suspension then it’s a real enduro contender.
Awesome!
But I want to hear about the Varg😂
Keep adding to that wish list, like 8k for a 250 2 stroke isn't enough...
Great video!
I never heard anybody "reason" when we rotate our bars so far forward, (starting after freestyle took off in the mid 90's. Are we sheep?)
I guess we think we have better control going into corners with a high freestyle set up that was meant for trick clearance.
You don't. Our handlebar/lever set up has become dysfunctional, and that is why nobody can explain why a high bar set up gives more control, while we crash more.
Try rotating them back so the ends of the grips are pointing down a bit, (Your natural hand position actually, as the bars are designed), and lower your level levers about 10 degrees, (straight line from your fingers on the elvers, to you high elbows, as best you can.), and you will find it is much easier to keep you elbows up, the front end will be less twitchy, and your corner speed should increase. The damn bike is too tall for the woods also, (probably the tallest bike made today). So your corner speed and control could be much better that riding this sky scrapper.
I have never had to do so much work to a 250cc MX bike, to make it ride able. But now it is way better than the stock YZ250 today, that is not really great for anything.
My motor mods turned my YZ from a 125 like screamer, (not going to keep up with 450's on a modern track anyway.), to a lower end "short shifter" (can shift fast with out bogging, 190lbs, stock gearing.), that does not fall on its face, banging the next gears with no clutch. I think I have the best woods bike set up for the YZ250 2-strokes. So easy to ride well. :)
Doug in Michigan
That was a great bike 25 years ago. Who would buy anything without electric start or full injected. Welcome to the real world.
It’s still is blue. I wish they would come back with yellow.
Gibson Mission
Keep the bike the way it is stupid simple
4 strokes are so much better for desert riding/racing.
Rollin Bridge
Make sure you dont smile at all, Connor...
No thanks. Sold my X and bought a KTM 350. E start and fuel injection are worth the extra money.
It takes a 450 4stroke to compete with a 250 2stroke.
Just needs an easy button to be a serious contender.