On the other hand, it creates an outright plothole in Owain's recount of his father's sacrifice. It also doesn't account for Owain's personality. And Morgan could have gotten her prankish tendencies from literally anyone.
"Heeyy, I opened the box so I get to prank you back, right?" "I thought the pranks were just to get my attention." "Yeah, well when I said yes? That was the prank."
"I love your loyalty, I love your candor, I love your spirit, I love the way you skewer things when your lance wrist thirsts, I love the way you butcher things when when your axe hand hungers, and most of all, I love the way you mercilessly incinerate in a wind of death, thunder and fire. My sword twitches. MARRY ME GODDESS OF DESTRUCTION!"
+Blusarix Maybe that was his plan all along, to pretend to be fooled by some dumb pranks so he could get in his friend's little sister's pants. Robin is a pimp after all.
I kinda wished there would be special conversations between certain characters when 2 people marry, for example Chrom talking to whoever marries one of his sisters, or Virion "accepting" that sully likes someone else instead of him etc...
H enryuuki No not the mother and daughter support conversation, Lucina and Chrom's support conversation B (I think it was B) changes if Robin is her mother
This pairing actually makes sense.... With Robin as the father it's no wonder Owain keeps going on about his "cursed blood" and "dark powers". It's not just chuunibyou...he actually does possess some kind of dark and ancient power. Though he can probably never actually awaken and control it at will.
@@LittleAl016 What they were going for there was that when Robin took the arrow, he didn't die. While they were separated, that's when Robin chose godhood apparently.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Except that doesn't make sense, because Robin was indeed seen again later on, if we're placing the Risen attack on Lissa's family before Robin gets possessed by Grima. If Robin wasn't already possessed by Grima during then, where did the Risen come from? And who would want Lissa and her family dead if someone besides Grima was responsible for the Risen? And if Grima is in Robin's body at the time, and he most likely is, why would he decide to block the arrow for Owain? Robin wouldn't be able to regain control over his body due to being a willing vessel. And Grima literally has no reason to want to save Lissa and Owain, and every reason to kill them.
I married my MU with Olivia only because she was one of the only other first gen women that gave birth to son JUST so that I can marry Ignis with Lucina and being robin and Chrom into a single linage
I'll be honest Lissa was my first girl, at first it was because I just wanted to see what would happen and because I liked Lissa's personality, but this became my favorite pairing so far followed by Tiki and Sumia. I've done Lucina's as well and while it is as good as Tiki's it's kinda weird in my opinion by my bro chrom's son in law rather than his brother in law. Also the sacrifice ending is made all that much sweeter with Lissa as the wife as the first thing you see is her face again and you can imagine how happy she is to see you again.
WingSlash I'm dead my good fellow. I can't be close to Une if she doesn't exist and Lissa is in dire need of etiquette lessons but doesn't want them so I figured I should 'step in' if you get my drift.
Don't you mean if you don't exist? So what you're saying is, you transcended the plane between mortality and death just so you could preach your belief of etiquette to my wife? Talk about dedication good sir. I salute you! :P
WingSlash I suppose you could say that I went from the outrealms to fix what I could in other realms. I suppose you could figure me like old man hubba. I just so happened upon Ylisse.
So, in other words, you drag other people into inter-dimensional wars with warriors from the past meaning, we are now going to get a Fire Emblem vs Gundam crossover?! ...This both intrigues and horrifies me. :P
You must become the gundam that believes in you which believes in me who believes in you so that you may save the worlds from Grima's Dark History and prevent the A-Laws from destroying the Feroxi Gundam fights.
After rewatching this support, I just realized she wasn't just drawing a random picture in MU's book. She was doodling a picture *OF* MU. Yup, OTP right there.
“She was doodling a picture of MU.” oh no... to think a few games later, they’d create a character who would go on to do the same thing. is drawing pictures of the MU a FE thing or something?
"Will you be my wife?" "Oh my gosh... of course I will Robin, I loved you since the very beg" "HAHAHAHAHAHA PRANKED BITCH!" "W-what?" "HAHAAAA... Look at your face! You really thought I was going to marry you? What a moron!" "B-b-b-ut... y-you said..." "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!"
Reasons why I like to marry Lissa: 1. She's pretty sweet and funny 2. I like to be Owain's dad 3. I like the fact that my best friend is my brothah too (I care a fuck for that so called "bro code")
Let's see: Older sister, younger sister, daughter, (potentially) second daughter... MU is determined to sleep with all female members of Chrom's family.
Honestly my favorite ship with the Avatar next to Tiki. Lissa is the type of woman I would love to have in my life. Kind, witty, down to earth, playful, and a ray of sunshine for anyone who comes into contact with her. Plus, her being with Robin makes the most sense to me out of everyone.
Could another thing that helps support the idea of Lissa X MU be Owain's intelligence? I mean, when he isn't being dramatic, Owain is one smart cookie. During other conversations, he acts normal when the he is told and when he does, he shows himself to be quite smart...In fact in some cases, you could probably consider him to be a tactician like Robin.
My first run through of this game I had this pair happen mainly knowing nothing about the game. Several play throughs later and knowing more I still like this pair
Robin: Is that really how your parents raised you? Me: Yeah you tell her Robin Lissa: I never really knew my parents... Me: ... I feel like a horrible person, I am so sorry... Please forgive me Lissa... PLEASE!!!
She (and Chrom) are the first people Robin meets when he wakes up... She immediately sympathises with him, despite Frederick's waryness... Her pranks and Robin's strategizing work really well together, especially since Morgan ALSO tries to prank Robin... Marrying her makes Robin and Chrom LITERAL bros... She sort of resembles Morgan... If you use the tall build and short hair, Robin resembles Owain... Owain's antics make more sense if he has the blood of Grima in him... Owain/Odin specializing in swords and magic makes sense when Robin is his dad... Come on, this HAS to be canon!
@@westube3493no they actually corrected the continuity error in echoes, so now it is possible for owain to be Robin's son without a continuity error, and seeing how in the original artwork his hair is the same color as default owain, Morgan's personality, and how in general this game like many old fire emblem games considers the story canon only with the first few heroes , and new ones become irrelevant or still don't show any signs of being in more battlefields asude the main ones, we can assume that the whole Fe awakening had only lissa chrom robin and frederick as constantly in battle, it is more likely that if there will be a canon, it would likely be lissa robin, but so far there is no real canon, and they fixed the plot hole with owain in echoes.
SPOILERS FOR AWAKENING AND FATES!! I like how when you met Odin Dark (Basically Owain) In Fates hw says "My FELL hand twitches!", and as we know Robin is the Vessel and Heart of Grima, which means Owain might have some connection to Grima. Which means he is of FELL blood. Or I'm just thinking to deep since this is my favorite pairing.
+Project Shadow Zero: It actually doesn't mean anything of the sort. In fact, Odin describing himself as "fell" is literally Odin being Odin. Besides, if Robin is Lissa's "canon wife" then, when does the Risen attack occur? And how does Robin "disappear"? If you've been paying attention to Awakening's story, you know the answers to both questions. Which are as follows: The Risen attack happened after Robin got possessed by Grima. And not only did Robin NOT disappear, but Owain shouldn't be alive to recount his story if he's actually Robin's son. Besides, as Andrew Smith pointed out, there's a far stronger case for Henry being Lissa's canon husband. After all, Lissa's paired ending with Henry states that Owain got his personality from his father. (Owain's personality is unaddressed in every other Lissa pairing.) In addition, Odin's a Dark Mage, which he can't be in Awakening unless if he's Henry's or Libra's son. (I'm not counting Robin in this due to the obvious plothole based in fact.) And Ophelia's supports have so many references to Henry, that it's hard NOT to see Henry/Lissa as "canon."
Legends say that when someone mentions anything about Owain and Robin being a cool father son duo, or Lissa and Robin being a good match, a person with an Akko icon and with the number 6 on their name will comment on how its bad and creates plot holes.
I swear they are in every single video that involves Lissa x Robin. They are so annoying lmao like bro we get it you think the risen thing is a plothole get over it.
@@8bitutopia1954 on a funny note, now no one can comment about plot holes again, since echoes literally fixed owain's plot hole, and even made robin and Lissa the most close to canon as possible lol
When I found out that the player made character could marry any of the female characters in the game, I went for Lissa right off the bat. She's just so adorable. And even when I found out about all the other characters I'll be going for in my next playthroughs (Tharja, Anna, Tiki) I had no regrets.
First time I played I got this pairing. When the Avatar opens his eyes for the first time I thought: "Uh-huh... I know who I'm marrying my MU to." The supports confirmed that, from C to S they were made for each other. Also, in the C support: "I was kinda doodling a pic of you in your big, new book of battle strategies..." Silly Lissa, you sound like a lovestruck schoolgirl.
See Mass Effect, you can do romances without any sexual or exploitative elements and they can be just as good, if not better! I just love how sweet, innocent and charming all of the romantic subplots are in this game. It warms your heart!
I can only imagine how Robin broke the news of marrying Lissa to Chrom. Probably went something like this: *Walking up to Chrom after marrying Lissa* Robin: Chrom! Buddy, I have something to tell you! Chrom: Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be good news. Spill it! Robin: I married your younger sister. Chrom:.........You're dead to me.......
With that close relationship he has with Robin for Chrom there would be no doubt that Lissa is in good hands and who better husband for her sister than someone who trusts so much and treats him like a brother and part of his family, honestly I don't see so much drama with Chrom, well except for lucina there is another story xd
This means that their interference with the past caused history to change and skew off into an alternate tangent. In the new timeline, 2 years after the war with Gangrel, Lucina is a newborn, and no other child has gotten the chance to be conceived. This interference most likely caused events to be accelerated abnormally because the dark future Lucina came from starts to take form 2 years after the war with Gangrel, not 10 years like she states when you recruit her. Time travel is COMPLICATED.
Also love having Owain as MU son. He's just like him sometimes, when he's not trying to role play. I mean Owain is probably my favorite character in the whole game. He's hilarious when he role plays and is actually quite cool when he gets serious.
Robin: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...don't talk to me again. Fool me three times, you're officially THAT girl. You know the one. You come and there's this who like this food is charge your money ask my dad and fuck you! I AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN'T HAVIN THAT SH*T!
The children characters stats are determined by their parents' stats, which get put into a formula you can find on the Fire Emblem wiki. When I got Owain his stats were surprisingly high. At the time I had Lon'Qu as a Swordmaster, and Owain's stats rivaled his when he was a level 10 Myrmidon.
I think the developers expected the player to choose Lissa as Robin's love interest. I know the player can choose anyone of the opposite sex to be their spouse, but in the male Avatar's case, this relationship seems not only the most believable, but also the sincerest. Robin is responsible, yet caring. Lissa is childish, yet has a good heart. They accent each other perfectly and as a result, they are my favorite couple in this game.
+WingSlash: They actually didn't. In fact, if they did, they would have changed Owain's father supports with Robin so that there's no plothole regarding the timing of the Risen, and the fact that Robin's possessed by Grima by the time said Risen attack occurs. If anything, they had significantly higher expectations that a player would choose Lucina as Male Robin's love interest, or Chrom as Female Robin's love interest, compared to expectations regarding Lissa and Male Robin. And the scene where Lucina confronts Robin is why.
In some concept art, it's revealed that Lissa is four years younger than Chrom. And if you do some number crunching, you'll find out that Chrom is 19 at the beginning of the game and is 21 after the time skip, which would put Lissa at the ages of 15 to 17.
LuiBei1994 She also plays pranks constantly reminiscent of this whole support convo. So I think we can use Morgan's personality to determine a lot. And if that's not enough, Owain's talk about how his blood rages makes sense considering the Grima blood plus exalted blood.
Devont'e W. they are not pranks, she is trying tactics, and that was like what? once? his blood raging does not have to do with grima at all....its owain, plus hes poor too so it would make sense considering he would be of royal descent sooooooo yeah
+Warboss West: Except there's a plothole in Owain's father supports if Robin is his father. To say nothing about Odin describing himself as "Fell" is just Odin being the big ham he usually is, and nothing more.
@@LittleAl016 Why everything time somebody said Robin X Lissa is canon/legit your answer there is a pothole? Technally if you saw your father being shooted because of you and you never see him again , it's safe to assume that he die due of the guilt. Due of Lucina's intervention both the war against Plegia and Wallhart took many years so letting the time for parents to get their children and Validar to create risens (Henry proved that anyone with black magic can create risen with corpses) and plotting. Lissa was pregnant of Morgan when Robin became Grima. Morgan was letter abducted by Grima when Robin came back to kill Lissa. Morgan grew while thinking that the abusive treatment of Grima was her father's love. If you follow this line, Owain story don't create a plot hole
@@rufure9294 Which requires mental gymnastics when it's easier to just accept the most logical conclusion. Risen wouldn't exist without Grima, Robin would be likely possessed by the time Owain gets attacked by Risen (as evidenced by the premonition chapter), and Grima has no reason to save Lissa. How is this not open and shut?
@@LittleAl016 Risen are just basically walking corpse so nobody with blacks magic like Validar and Henry create them and use them. What your proof that Validar didn't simply invoke Risen from the multiverse since they exist all over the world. Some risen can exist even without Grima intervention like those from the tomb
@@LittleAl016 Beside it was revealed in Shadow of Valentia that both Grima and Risens were created by Forneus. For his experiments he created a large army of dead who lays dormant. So meaning Risens can be created by someone else than Grima (who can control them otherwise they will attack anyone alive)
4:30: Lissa gives Robin a frog and he thinks that it feels cold and slimy. Have you noticed that the 2 pokémons Politoed and Seismitoad are different amphibians.
That said, I LOVED this game. It was truly a wonderful journey! I just YEARN for more character interaction. The supports are superb, but I want MORE! I bought the scramble pack DLC solely for the purpose of reading more character conversations. I was even treated to a lovely conversation between myself and my new wife, Lucina, at the hot-springs. However, even with that DLC (and its limited conversation choices), I was still sad that I could not have a conversation with my dearest Lissa...
This was my first game and knowing nothing a out the pairings system or that future kids was a thing going in I paired MU with Lissa because their supports were so fun. After all this time, it’s still my favorite pair for M!Robin.
@@Luminus2 I agree. Considering Chrom is still very young. And so is Robin. To have a friend marry your daughter; unless the friend is a lot younger (though if your are friends of the parent it is likely you are the same age) I find it much easier to marry a friends sister. Many people have married someone's bro or sis. And Chrom knowing Robin is a good guy will be happy Liisaa has a good husband. Or Tiki who is a guardian u could say of peace. I find marrying a sibling of a friend or a immortal dragon much more easier than a friends daughter from the future
Perhaps Owain was a child at the time, and that Risen attack occurred before Robin became Grima? Lucina does state that she and the other children came from a time ten years into the future, when things take a turn for the worst and they are all clearly in their mid-to-late teens, which would imply that they were all conceived shortly after the war with the mad king. However, since Lucina and co. went back in time to change things, Lucina helped save Emmeryn, which did not happen in their time.
Who else's male avatar accidentally got married to Lissa on there first play-through by mistake? I did, because i bought the game not knowing unit marriage was a feature. You can imagine my surprise when it first happened.
Favourite pairing in the entire game :D On a side note, I find it funny how everyone is arguing about the characters ages. Personally, I just leave it up to my imagination as to how old most characters in the game are (with some exceptions such as Tiki, Nowi, etc.)
To be fair, the vast majority of the recruitable characters in the game are left out of the cutscenes and storyline dialogue entirely, which is understandable given how convoluted it might have been. So Lissa will obviously have some interaction with MU in those scenes since she's one of the few characters they decided to include in many of them.
Oh Lissa… you are such an adorable little prankster! ❤️ Also I may not like being pranked on but I wouldn’t get as upset or mad as Robin did during the A & B Supports. I mean seriously! Come on Robin! She did nothing but harmless pranks! It’s not like you’re going to die or get injured or anything like that! Also just a random thought that I think would make sense came into my head: If Lisa were to appear in the Fates world… I should definitely warn her to NEVER even attempt to prank Saizo because he would be so pissed off & would probably most likely injure or kill her!
Yeah I mean the one scene, can't remember when it happens exactly, where your my unit has the dream of Validar trying to command him, whose there with him...Lissa. Or when Emmerlyn dies, I believe MU tries and comfort her, doesn't he?
Actually, if MU is Owain's father, the support between them is slightly different than with any other father. Owain talking about his father's death when it's the MU actually notes that Owain never saw his father die. He just thought he had died. Look at it again. It's a very slight difference, but a very important difference.
this game has more shipping options than Fed-Ex
Clever
Its not amazon prime
Haha, good one
this comment has made my y e a r
@@oliviawallace3636 hhhhhhh
In french c support in so much rough :
Robin : Is that how our parents raised you?!
Lissa : They're dead.
O O F
That's also C Support for Female though
T'es francais du coup ?
Which is clearly disproven in the Valm arc, in the case of the father.
Damn
Lissa: Hey there, Robin!
Robin: Get away from me, she-devil!!!
Me: That escalated quickly
Yup...
He got tired of those pranks rq. Lmao.
Funny thing is, if you pair them up non-stop at the start, it is possible to get this coversation before even knowing what risen are.
Which isn't even that hard to do, considering Lissa pair up bonuses give magic
also to add to this, you can do the water walking trick in the proluge, which is near mandatory in lunatic
Don't support conversations not open up until chapter 2 or 3?
@@knightshade2654 yup he lied. Plus you cant get more than a max affection points per chapter, so...
@@giooooo3522 Wait affection points are capped?
Well, this pairing does explain Morgan's prankster and energetic side
Possibly, it could be her being clever.
On the other hand, it creates an outright plothole in Owain's recount of his father's sacrifice. It also doesn't account for Owain's personality. And Morgan could have gotten her prankish tendencies from literally anyone.
+LittleAl016
Why are you so against this pairing dude?
@@LittleAl016 not really, it just turns to him disappearing instead of dying in front of him
+worthy (will): Your point being? Because that's the plothole right there. Considering that Grima's the one in control during then.
"Heeyy, I opened the box so I get to prank you back, right?"
"I thought the pranks were just to get my attention."
"Yeah, well when I said yes? That was the prank."
Cold blooded man
Dan The Gengar Wow. For a cute and cuddly Gengar, that's just plain mean.
DAYUM.
O.o
Cute and cuddly or not, it's a still a fucking Gengar.
Did you honestly expect anything less?
AngetColslaw
True dat.
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"I love your loyalty, I love your candor, I love your spirit, I love the way you skewer things when your lance wrist thirsts, I love the way you butcher things when when your axe hand hungers, and most of all, I love the way you mercilessly incinerate in a wind of death, thunder and fire. My sword twitches. MARRY ME GODDESS OF DESTRUCTION!"
I'M CRYING
Who is this from lissa? OWAIN?
so this is the robin thats owian's father.
where is this from lol
Where is this from man, legit died laughing
RISEN, WOLVES, RISEN RIDING ON WOLVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD ITS THE END OF THE WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Emilio Zepeda HIDE THE CHILDREN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
Wandering Meowstic Hide yo children, hide yo wives!
***** Wolves! Risen! Wolves Riding Risens!!!!
cynda wu OH GOD NO!!!!!!!
I like how Lissa's eyes get petrified from the worm
And this folks, is where Morgan got her sadistic nature from.
No it isn't.
Tharja?
That, or the whole being the daughter of a literal demon dragon. Honestly, its probably both.
I thought it would come from Henry if he were a father
It's weird knowing a tactician like robin fell for a prank laid out by a 16 year old girl.
+Blusarix Maybe that was his plan all along, to pretend to be fooled by some dumb pranks so he could get in his friend's little sister's pants. Robin is a pimp after all.
They must be somewhere in Europe actually. If you look into the laws, they say that you can get married at 16.
+Puffin T. Puffinty Robin: I'm always three steps ahead
Nevada's age of consent is 16... I grew up in Las Vegas
Blusarix Wait, she's 16? I thought she was 20 or at least 18
I kinda wished there would be special conversations between certain characters when 2 people marry, for example Chrom talking to whoever marries one of his sisters, or Virion "accepting" that sully likes someone else instead of him etc...
Or Avatar Marrying Lucina, making Chrom a grandfather.
Honestly, I'd feel like cherche is his girl but that's just me. Granted, he DID follow the bitch into battle
There is for Chrom and Lucina if robin (female) marries Chrom. In their support B (no spoilers but its pretty funny)
Isaac Agullana
That's just because of daughter-mother supports.
There is no NEW conversations because of any of it is what I'm saying.
H enryuuki No not the mother and daughter support conversation, Lucina and Chrom's support conversation B (I think it was B) changes if Robin is her mother
0:49 "Risen! Wolves! Risen riding wolves!" XD
TACTICIAN PRANKS GONE MARITAL
A rubbery thing with the face?
MU confirmed for Egoraptor.
This pairing actually makes sense....
With Robin as the father it's no wonder Owain keeps going on about his "cursed blood" and "dark powers". It's not just chuunibyou...he actually does possess some kind of dark and ancient power. Though he can probably never actually awaken and control it at will.
Except it's stated that his "cursed blood" thing is just an act. And pairing Robin with Lissa creates a plothole in Owain's father supports.
@@LittleAl016 What they were going for there was that when Robin took the arrow, he didn't die. While they were separated, that's when Robin chose godhood apparently.
@@wholesome_masochist4113 Except that doesn't make sense, because Robin was indeed seen again later on, if we're placing the Risen attack on Lissa's family before Robin gets possessed by Grima. If Robin wasn't already possessed by Grima during then, where did the Risen come from? And who would want Lissa and her family dead if someone besides Grima was responsible for the Risen?
And if Grima is in Robin's body at the time, and he most likely is, why would he decide to block the arrow for Owain? Robin wouldn't be able to regain control over his body due to being a willing vessel. And Grima literally has no reason to want to save Lissa and Owain, and every reason to kill them.
I mean doesn’t Henry and Lissa make sense too? :0 I can see that actually
@@cesiperez8789 That's actually one of the few Lissa pairs that does make the most sense.
I actually also married robin with lissa
'Cos the image of drinking beer with your exalt brother in law is amazing
@Chris Mitchell oh NO
I married my MU with Olivia only because she was one of the only other first gen women that gave birth to son JUST so that I can marry Ignis with Lucina and being robin and Chrom into a single linage
@@Error-7-0-7 isn't it cherce also born a son too
@@sofihanafi3196 Yes, Mirel, Maribelle, and Panne also have sons
I can summarize this support conversation in one sentence:
Lissa: "NOTICE ME SENPAI!!!"
Never gets old XD
TechUser422 at least i finally noticed... :)
robin gon S rank everything. Then his kids will kick your ass.
That's also Cordelia
Senpai Noticed Me
So...This is why Morgan is sadistic? :D
+Yusuf Selman Abacı
Holy crap, I just realized that after seeing her conversation with Yarne
Nope.
I'll be honest Lissa was my first girl, at first it was because I just wanted to see what would happen and because I liked Lissa's personality, but this became my favorite pairing so far followed by Tiki and Sumia. I've done Lucina's as well and while it is as good as Tiki's it's kinda weird in my opinion by my bro chrom's son in law rather than his brother in law.
Also the sacrifice ending is made all that much sweeter with Lissa as the wife as the first thing you see is her face again and you can imagine how happy she is to see you again.
WingSlash I'm dead my good fellow. I can't be close to Une if she doesn't exist and Lissa is in dire need of etiquette lessons but doesn't want them so I figured I should 'step in' if you get my drift.
Don't you mean if you don't exist?
So what you're saying is, you transcended the plane between mortality and death just so you could preach your belief of etiquette to my wife? Talk about dedication good sir.
I salute you! :P
WingSlash I suppose you could say that I went from the outrealms to fix what I could in other realms. I suppose you could figure me like old man hubba. I just so happened upon Ylisse.
So, in other words, you drag other people into inter-dimensional wars with warriors from the past meaning, we are now going to get a Fire Emblem vs Gundam crossover?!
...This both intrigues and horrifies me. :P
You must become the gundam that believes in you which believes in me who believes in you so that you may save the worlds from Grima's Dark History and prevent the A-Laws from destroying the Feroxi Gundam fights.
After rewatching this support, I just realized she wasn't just drawing a random picture in MU's book. She was doodling a picture *OF* MU.
Yup, OTP right there.
NeoSwordsmanZ MU?
Main Unit, it's the name used in the community to call Robin without calling him Robin
@@matteoar I think it stands for "My Unit"
“She was doodling a picture of MU.”
oh no... to think a few games later, they’d create a character who would go on to do the same thing.
is drawing pictures of the MU a FE thing or something?
@@Mute14_ yes apparently
Robin: the biggest pimp since Yu Narukami.
The difference between Robin and Narukami is that Robin stops at the first girl.
What kind of anime do you guys watch?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?
And I thought Konosuba was weird.
John Frank Not anime, video game: Persona 4.
+PrinceDoebler
Persona 4 is also an anime.
@@Jarock316 it was a game at first.... Though
I'm 16
Robin: pulls out +2
*not anymore*
"Will you be my wife?"
"Oh my gosh... of course I will Robin, I loved you since the very beg"
"HAHAHAHAHAHA PRANKED BITCH!"
"W-what?"
"HAHAAAA... Look at your face! You really thought I was going to marry you? What a moron!"
"B-b-b-ut... y-you said..."
"IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!"
lisa: he sleeping time to hold his nose
robin: SCREEEEEE
Robin and Lisa have reached C support
i can imagine robin's face twitching after lissa tells him that she ruined he's book.
And Teeth clenched *HARD*
This makes Robin and Chrom real bros now.
SuperAbdul19 no it breaks he bro code
@Chris Mitchell Let me check. 'Read's Alternate dimension... Genderswap... Nope, nothing about time travel.
@@ephxiaa It's not breaking the bro code if u have ur bro's permission, which I'm sure Robin does
Reasons why I like to marry Lissa:
1. She's pretty sweet and funny
2. I like to be Owain's dad
3. I like the fact that my best friend is my brothah too (I care a fuck for that so called "bro code")
And canon
@@ThatTCG damn straight it is
Owain was literally the worst part of the deal.
0:48 Well, Robin. Risen riding wolves is a reality now.
inb4 paralogue comes along that lets Robin go 5 for 5 and sleep with Chrom's mother too.
Let's see:
Older sister, younger sister, daughter, (potentially) second daughter...
MU is determined to sleep with all female members of Chrom's family.
burnoutpro15 Robin didn't just break the bro code he bloody well bludgeoned it to death.
The bro code is now a bloody heap laying in a roadside ditch.
+burnoutpro15 Don't forget his canon wife
+TechAnimation: Whose identity is Chrom's daughter.
Risen riding on wolves.
3spooky5me
Salty Lightning6 4SpOoKy6Me
2 years later and this comment is still *SPOOKY*
SpookyScaryJokes
WOLVES RIDING ON RISEN BITCHEEEEEEES!!!
the dialogue in this game is just precious. I actually feel like a better person playing this game. God, it's such a gem.
Honestly my favorite ship with the Avatar next to Tiki. Lissa is the type of woman I would love to have in my life. Kind, witty, down to earth, playful, and a ray of sunshine for anyone who comes into contact with her. Plus, her being with Robin makes the most sense to me out of everyone.
Could another thing that helps support the idea of Lissa X MU be Owain's intelligence? I mean, when he isn't being dramatic, Owain is one smart cookie. During other conversations, he acts normal when the he is told and when he does, he shows himself to be quite smart...In fact in some cases, you could probably consider him to be a tactician like Robin.
It also explain's female Morgan's more... Sadistic/playful side.
In the same vein, chrom makes too much sense as father if make Morgan.
My first run through of this game I had this pair happen mainly knowing nothing about the game. Several play throughs later and knowing more I still like this pair
Robin: Is that really how your parents raised you?
Me: Yeah you tell her Robin
Lissa: I never really knew my parents...
Me: ... I feel like a horrible person, I am so sorry... Please forgive me Lissa... PLEASE!!!
I don't like that
She (and Chrom) are the first people Robin meets when he wakes up...
She immediately sympathises with him, despite Frederick's waryness...
Her pranks and Robin's strategizing work really well together, especially since Morgan ALSO tries to prank Robin...
Marrying her makes Robin and Chrom LITERAL bros...
She sort of resembles Morgan...
If you use the tall build and short hair, Robin resembles Owain...
Owain's antics make more sense if he has the blood of Grima in him...
Owain/Odin specializing in swords and magic makes sense when Robin is his dad...
Come on, this HAS to be canon!
Owain's supports create a continuity error since his father dies protecting him from risen while Robin transforms into Grima when he kills Chrom
@@westube3493no they actually corrected the continuity error in echoes, so now it is possible for owain to be Robin's son without a continuity error, and seeing how in the original artwork his hair is the same color as default owain, Morgan's personality, and how in general this game like many old fire emblem games considers the story canon only with the first few heroes , and new ones become irrelevant or still don't show any signs of being in more battlefields asude the main ones, we can assume that the whole Fe awakening had only lissa chrom robin and frederick as constantly in battle, it is more likely that if there will be a canon, it would likely be lissa robin, but so far there is no real canon, and they fixed the plot hole with owain in echoes.
I don't know why, but I couldn't see my avatar with anyone else but Lissa.
+Unfunny Dilbert 1876 waifu just got confirmed
"RISEN, WOLVES, RISEN RIDING ON WOLVES!!!"
+Eduardo “Weegee” The Inkling
They should make an enemy like that.
It would be either hilarious or awesome.
+AlexThat200 or both
+AlexThat200 So the wolf riders come.
So, when do we invite Emmeryn and Validar to the wedding?
and Chrom
jolitero When Chrom finishes the death glare towards both Robin and Validar.
+ZiemiaHD I know this is old, but I just want to say that the seat Robin left Validar is right next to Chrom.
My vote for male avatar's cannon coupling. Morgan acts so much like Lissa it's hilarious.
If we make every love story canon, but make Robin single, you know he's getting laid with at least six girls at the same time end-game.
Robin approves
SPOILERS FOR AWAKENING AND FATES!!
I like how when you met Odin Dark (Basically Owain) In Fates hw says "My FELL hand twitches!", and as we know Robin is the Vessel and Heart of Grima, which means Owain might have some connection to Grima. Which means he is of FELL blood. Or I'm just thinking to deep since this is my favorite pairing.
Well that would explain why Morgan can't get possessed by Grima
I think Odin makes Henry X Lissa more canon, as F!Robin x Chrom is nigh on canon at this point, and Henry gives Odin dark Mage.
Male robin is canon, Lissa is his wife.
+Project Shadow Zero: It actually doesn't mean anything of the sort. In fact, Odin describing himself as "fell" is literally Odin being Odin. Besides, if Robin is Lissa's "canon wife" then, when does the Risen attack occur? And how does Robin "disappear"? If you've been paying attention to Awakening's story, you know the answers to both questions. Which are as follows: The Risen attack happened after Robin got possessed by Grima. And not only did Robin NOT disappear, but Owain shouldn't be alive to recount his story if he's actually Robin's son.
Besides, as Andrew Smith pointed out, there's a far stronger case for Henry being Lissa's canon husband. After all, Lissa's paired ending with Henry states that Owain got his personality from his father. (Owain's personality is unaddressed in every other Lissa pairing.) In addition, Odin's a Dark Mage, which he can't be in Awakening unless if he's Henry's or Libra's son. (I'm not counting Robin in this due to the obvious plothole based in fact.) And Ophelia's supports have so many references to Henry, that it's hard NOT to see Henry/Lissa as "canon."
LittleAl016 *gets out book of facts*
Fact number 173: people have different pairings, stop voicing why "it isin't canon".
Knob.
Holy shit I've never seen people so dedicated about stuff like this since anime storylines.
7:45
“Sorry, you were saying something about hypocrites?”
*OH SHIT THAT BURN WAS SICK*
"Oh My Gosh, This Ring is Huge! Ahhh! We Gonna Have such a GREAT Life Together" _Lissa_
Legends say that when someone mentions anything about Owain and Robin being a cool father son duo, or Lissa and Robin being a good match, a person with an Akko icon and with the number 6 on their name will comment on how its bad and creates plot holes.
I swear they are in every single video that involves Lissa x Robin. They are so annoying lmao like bro we get it you think the risen thing is a plothole get over it.
Looking back, why the hell did I comment this again? Lmao
I don’t even know who that commenter is
@@8bitutopia1954 on a funny note, now no one can comment about plot holes again, since echoes literally fixed owain's plot hole, and even made robin and Lissa the most close to canon as possible lol
Robin: Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice...don't talk to me again.
Fool me three times, you're officially that guy, okay! You know the one...
Robin literally came from "I'm upset at you" to "I wanna have babies with you" in the span of 14 minutes
Keon Bennett He didn't really hate her.
Teon Windley
Well, upset at the very least
Keon Bennett Yeah. But I do still feel that he geunine loves her
When I found out that the player made character could marry any of the female characters in the game, I went for Lissa right off the bat. She's just so adorable. And even when I found out about all the other characters I'll be going for in my next playthroughs (Tharja, Anna, Tiki) I had no regrets.
First time I played I got this pairing. When the Avatar opens his eyes for the first time I thought: "Uh-huh... I know who I'm marrying my MU to." The supports confirmed that, from C to S they were made for each other.
Also, in the C support: "I was kinda doodling a pic of you in your big, new book of battle strategies..."
Silly Lissa, you sound like a lovestruck schoolgirl.
robin knows how to work his magic
+Vampirerockstar Magic *SNORT SNORT*
Gregor The Mercenary
Gregor, wtf are you doing here
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, don't ever talk to me again."
That escalated quickly.
See Mass Effect, you can do romances without any sexual or exploitative elements and they can be just as good, if not better! I just love how sweet, innocent and charming all of the romantic subplots are in this game. It warms your heart!
Tali?
Oh man. Lissa was my first ever pairing in this game and has remained a favorite ever since. She's so pure.
I can only imagine how Robin broke the news of marrying Lissa to Chrom. Probably went something like this:
*Walking up to Chrom after marrying Lissa*
Robin: Chrom! Buddy, I have something to tell you!
Chrom: Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be good news. Spill it!
Robin: I married your younger sister.
Chrom:.........You're dead to me.......
Lissa: Too bad you have a Brother in law now Chrom
With that close relationship he has with Robin for Chrom there would be no doubt that Lissa is in good hands and who better husband for her sister than someone who trusts so much and treats him like a brother and part of his family, honestly I don't see so much drama with Chrom, well except for lucina there is another story xd
This means that their interference with the past caused history to change and skew off into an alternate tangent.
In the new timeline, 2 years after the war with Gangrel, Lucina is a newborn, and no other child has gotten the chance to be conceived.
This interference most likely caused events to be accelerated abnormally because the dark future Lucina came from starts to take form 2 years after the war with Gangrel, not 10 years like she states when you recruit her.
Time travel is COMPLICATED.
Also love having Owain as MU son. He's just like him sometimes, when he's not trying to role play. I mean Owain is probably my favorite character in the whole game. He's hilarious when he role plays and is actually quite cool when he gets serious.
She was my first waifu tbh
Luigicat117
Tiki was my first
Robin: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...don't talk to me again. Fool me three times, you're officially THAT girl. You know the one. You come and there's this who like this food is charge your money ask my dad and fuck you! I AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN'T HAVIN THAT SH*T!
wildrook JonTron, God bless your soul XD
wildrook Well apparently Robin is having that.
The children characters stats are determined by their parents' stats, which get put into a formula you can find on the Fire Emblem wiki.
When I got Owain his stats were surprisingly high. At the time I had Lon'Qu as a Swordmaster, and Owain's stats rivaled his when he was a level 10 Myrmidon.
2012 ROBIN FROG PRANK GONE WRONG GONE SEXUAL
Chrom: Normally I wouldn’t want this to happen but seeing you taming her? I think you are meant to be.
"Oh my gosh! This ring is HUGE!"
...Lissa, why are you calling it a ring?
BRO JUST BROKE THE BRO-CODE
Chrom: "Now I'm angry!"
I think the developers expected the player to choose Lissa as Robin's love interest. I know the player can choose anyone of the opposite sex to be their spouse, but in the male Avatar's case, this relationship seems not only the most believable, but also the sincerest.
Robin is responsible, yet caring.
Lissa is childish, yet has a good heart.
They accent each other perfectly and as a result, they are my favorite couple in this game.
+WingSlash: They actually didn't. In fact, if they did, they would have changed Owain's father supports with Robin so that there's no plothole regarding the timing of the Risen, and the fact that Robin's possessed by Grima by the time said Risen attack occurs.
If anything, they had significantly higher expectations that a player would choose Lucina as Male Robin's love interest, or Chrom as Female Robin's love interest, compared to expectations regarding Lissa and Male Robin. And the scene where Lucina confronts Robin is why.
@@LittleAl016 they did
@@silverdustedflower2496 Citation needed.
@@LittleAl016 th-cam.com/video/IonJMO2MKlY/w-d-xo.html
@@silverdustedflower2496 That's not "expecting the players to choose Lissa as Robin's love interest".
In some concept art, it's revealed that Lissa is four years younger than Chrom. And if you do some number crunching, you'll find out that Chrom is 19 at the beginning of the game and is 21 after the time skip, which would put Lissa at the ages of 15 to 17.
Princess's honor my but...XD
oh my gosh, this is so obviously canon.
Idk I think Tharja is more canon
nah, Morgan's nothing like tharja.
and morgan is the daughter of a strategist and kind of a dumbass... so we cant use morgans personality to determine anything
LuiBei1994 She also plays pranks constantly reminiscent of this whole support convo. So I think we can use Morgan's personality to determine a lot. And if that's not enough, Owain's talk about how his blood rages makes sense considering the Grima blood plus exalted blood.
Devont'e W. they are not pranks, she is trying tactics, and that was like what? once? his blood raging does not have to do with grima at all....its owain, plus hes poor too so it would make sense considering he would be of royal descent sooooooo yeah
Owain or Odin as hes called in Fates claims he has fel blood and the only parent he could have got it from is the Male Avatar.
+Warboss West: Except there's a plothole in Owain's father supports if Robin is his father. To say nothing about Odin describing himself as "Fell" is just Odin being the big ham he usually is, and nothing more.
@@LittleAl016
Why everything time somebody said Robin X Lissa is canon/legit your answer there is a pothole?
Technally if you saw your father being shooted because of you and you never see him again , it's safe to assume that he die due of the guilt.
Due of Lucina's intervention both the war against Plegia and Wallhart took many years so letting the time for parents to get their children and Validar to create risens (Henry proved that anyone with black magic can create risen with corpses) and plotting.
Lissa was pregnant of Morgan when Robin became Grima.
Morgan was letter abducted by Grima when Robin came back to kill Lissa.
Morgan grew while thinking that the abusive treatment of Grima was her father's love.
If you follow this line, Owain story don't create a plot hole
@@rufure9294 Which requires mental gymnastics when it's easier to just accept the most logical conclusion. Risen wouldn't exist without Grima, Robin would be likely possessed by the time Owain gets attacked by Risen (as evidenced by the premonition chapter), and Grima has no reason to save Lissa. How is this not open and shut?
@@LittleAl016
Risen are just basically walking corpse so nobody with blacks magic like Validar and Henry create them and use them.
What your proof that Validar didn't simply invoke Risen from the multiverse since they exist all over the world.
Some risen can exist even without Grima intervention like those from the tomb
@@LittleAl016
Beside it was revealed in Shadow of Valentia that both Grima and Risens were created by Forneus.
For his experiments he created a large army of dead who lays dormant.
So meaning Risens can be created by someone else than Grima (who can control them otherwise they will attack anyone alive)
I kept laughing so much to the point where I couldn’t chew my food.
4:30: Lissa gives Robin a frog and he thinks that it feels cold and slimy. Have you noticed that the 2 pokémons Politoed and Seismitoad are different amphibians.
That said, I LOVED this game. It was truly a wonderful journey! I just YEARN for more character interaction. The supports are superb, but I want MORE! I bought the scramble pack DLC solely for the purpose of reading more character conversations. I was even treated to a lovely conversation between myself and my new wife, Lucina, at the hot-springs. However, even with that DLC (and its limited conversation choices), I was still sad that I could not have a conversation with my dearest Lissa...
This was my first game and knowing nothing a out the pairings system or that future kids was a thing going in I paired MU with Lissa because their supports were so fun. After all this time, it’s still my favorite pair for M!Robin.
So... Chrom is my Brother-In-Law?
Or father in law if you marry Lucina
@@otakumarcus The fact that you can marry the children of your comrades in this game is.....very bizarre and off-putting.
@@Luminus2 I agree. Considering Chrom is still very young. And so is Robin. To have a friend marry your daughter; unless the friend is a lot younger (though if your are friends of the parent it is likely you are the same age) I find it much easier to marry a friends sister. Many people have married someone's bro or sis. And Chrom knowing Robin is a good guy will be happy Liisaa has a good husband. Or Tiki who is a guardian u could say of peace. I find marrying a sibling of a friend or a immortal dragon much more easier than a friends daughter from the future
"Hey Chrom, does this breaks the bro code?"
Perhaps Owain was a child at the time, and that Risen attack occurred before Robin became Grima? Lucina does state that she and the other children came from a time ten years into the future, when things take a turn for the worst and they are all clearly in their mid-to-late teens, which would imply that they were all conceived shortly after the war with the mad king.
However, since Lucina and co. went back in time to change things, Lucina helped save Emmeryn, which did not happen in their time.
I love when in the first conversation your unit goes "Rison, wolves rison riding wolves
Wait, so if I give a man a frog, will be give me a ring back? 🥰
11:01
Lol I just pictured FBI knocking down their door
And this is why female Morgan is who she is
Who else's male avatar accidentally got married to Lissa on there first play-through by mistake?
I did, because i bought the game not knowing unit marriage was a feature.
You can imagine my surprise when it first happened.
The text: zzzzzzzzz…..
The character portrait: *eyes wide open*
6:54 Whoa, holy shit. I've never seen that portrait before.
That's only one of 2 time it happens in game.
it appears in a couple of DLCs, and I think on the third level when she says "Frederick! Avatar!"
She's the anitchrist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now i wanna see a "Wolf Rider" class
Still My Favorite Girl in Awakening & Still My Favorite Pairing in the Game!
All Hail The Princess of Yillise & Robin's Light!
What if in one of these when Robin pulls out the ring the female flat out says no. Boy that would be awkward.
Favourite pairing in the entire game :D
On a side note, I find it funny how everyone is arguing about the characters ages. Personally, I just leave it up to my imagination as to how old most characters in the game are (with some exceptions such as Tiki, Nowi, etc.)
To be fair, the vast majority of the recruitable characters in the game are left out of the cutscenes and storyline dialogue entirely, which is understandable given how convoluted it might have been. So Lissa will obviously have some interaction with MU in those scenes since she's one of the few characters they decided to include in many of them.
Her confession at the end about the ring totally kills the mood -_-
I find it funny
She is a little girl
That is a little explanation
+heyololo1 It's huge because it's Robin's cockring.
(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■)
Oh Lissa… you are such an adorable little prankster! ❤️
Also I may not like being pranked on but I wouldn’t get as upset or mad as Robin did during the A & B Supports. I mean seriously! Come on Robin! She did nothing but harmless pranks! It’s not like you’re going to die or get injured or anything like that!
Also just a random thought that I think would make sense came into my head: If Lisa were to appear in the Fates world… I should definitely warn her to NEVER even attempt to prank Saizo because he would be so pissed off & would probably most likely injure or kill her!
I hope Chrom will not be upset about this, either through gossip or Owain.
Don't forget about how Morgan constantly tries to play pranks on MU as well :)
Yeah I mean the one scene, can't remember when it happens exactly, where your my unit has the dream of Validar trying to command him, whose there with him...Lissa. Or when Emmerlyn dies, I believe MU tries and comfort her, doesn't he?
14:05 Oh my god ! That is HUUUUUUUGE !
+LeKain08
Really?
Can u blame him? I thought that too.
*****
I didn't
Me too. I love all the stuff after he gives her the ring. It's too cute and adorable for words :)
Lissa's smile is so beautiful at the end
Actually, if MU is Owain's father, the support between them is slightly different than with any other father. Owain talking about his father's death when it's the MU actually notes that Owain never saw his father die. He just thought he had died. Look at it again. It's a very slight difference, but a very important difference.
Which is what creates a plot hole.
Yeah, but with Robin as his father he says that he was "gravely wounded" not "killed".