Unexplained disappearances in the Washington wilderness | ARC Seattle
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- A new book just released is taking a look at unexplained disappearances in Washington state. The book, "Missing 411: Washington," centers around a handful of disappearances in the wilderness-most notably at Mount Rainier and Olympic National Parks.
The director of the CanAm Missing Project David Paulides joined anchors Steve McCarron and Tyrah Majors to discuss the goal of the project and cases specific to Washington state.
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Hiking alone is stoopid. I used to hike by myself, with my dogs, all the time in the Co Rockies in an area 5 miles from home. One cold, winter day I stepped into a low spot and immediately got sucked into a creek hidden by the snow. I was chest deep and the daylight was drawing near. I dug for 4 hours to get out. NO ONE was around to hear me holler for help. My dogs stayed close to try and protect me, but damn I was cold. Fingers quit working, feet were numb. I finally dug myself out.
Man, I'm glad you guys are OK. Please take care, everyone
❤
I always carry my Garmin inreach on the trails, even if I'm within sight of city streets. The new iPhone has sos satellite, Android should be getting it soon as well.
One of the things Dave espouses is to always carry a personal locator beacon if going alone, they have gotten relatively inexpensive and it will save your life. Another point, out of all Dave's mysterious missing cases, he has never had a case matching his criteria, of someone who brought BOTH a firearm and a locator beacon. Never know what or who you'll encounter... Just seems like good sense
Woow! So glad you made it out of there, lesson learned🙏👏👏👏
If you read David Paulides (the man being interviewed in video) books, you'll find out there are even more scarier things out there that can happen to you.
Number one rule when you go into the deep woods, is don't go alone. Number two rule don't go off the trials. I know both these areas and have climbed Mt. Rainier and almost fell 500 feet into a crevasse, thank God for my ice ax and training. On the way down I hit an ice patch that launched me down a snow patch my crampons couldn't stop me, with about twenty feet to go before I went over a ledge, I turned over on my belly and dug my ax into the Icey snow and stopped with about five feet to spare. I had five others with me, we had un-roped because it was gravel until it wasn't. I was so busy trying to stop with my feet that I didn't remember I had an ice ax, but one of my partners did and called out to me use your ax. That's why you never go alone.
Hollywood should make a thriller horror movie about these mysterious events
wow - happy you survived, frightening experience 👌💙
I always go into the woods alone because everyone I ask to go with me will not I always go alone with the hopes I will get killed and get removed out of this horrible horrible world
I live out here and don't have any friends. Sometimes you don't have a choice. I'm not going to just "not hike"
Don't go alone anywhere ever. Wear a helmet at all times.
If you dont know Dave's story, he's an ex-cop from Fresno. Known for his honesty, level-headedness, and trustworthiness, he was commissioned to investigate the Bigfoot phenomena and give his honest opinion on it. This lead to other areas of investigation, of which he has written several books and has made movies as well. Very intriguing to watch, if you haven't. I've followed him on TH-cam for a long while now, and he really is the best investigator in this field. I can't say enough good things about him. The "suicide" of his young son, who made these movies with him, never set right with me. There are those who, lets just say, don't want what he researches to be told - for many reasons. I highly recommend searching him out, as you won't be disappointed. God bless Dave. He helps so many people.
No, David Paulides was a cop in the bay area calif. Then worked hr for silicon Valley firms. Fresno?
@thelukeewan7602 Maybe it was Fremont. I just remember he worked near where my father lived for 15 years. Thanks for the correction.
@@lisalisa5180you could be right about Fremont. I recall one place was san Jose. He grew up in Cupertin. Used to watch all his missing 411 videos
What his son was starting to touch on was the real truth 🙏 I believe what Ben was looking into could absolutely be possible ... I'm an avid fan as well ...
I've seen the 3 films in that series about what he found; absolutely fascinating, very much worth watching. Agree with you about everything you said - except he didn't work in Fresno he worked for San Jose Police Dept.
I was hiking on Haystack(?) rock, got distracted and ended up falling 10-15 feet down a slope.
I caught myself on a ledge...if I had missed it I would have gone another 80 feet or so into the sea.
Waves were breaking below, so the rocks would have broken my fall before I drowned.
I am a weak swimmer in the best of circumstances; coastal waters in April are brutally cold.
People disappear for all kinds of reasons..this could have been mine.
Cannon Beach!
No doubt some of these disappearances are accidents.
I'm glad you made it out!
@@Hatbox948not likely, the cases Dave writes about specifically rule out cases of misadventure, accidents, predators, voluntary disappearances, foul play, etc. In your case they would have brought in dogs that would have been able to track you to your probable demise. In Dave's cases, dogs can't (or sometimes, very oddly, won't) track. His cases mostly are very hard to explain away with conventional methods (although that is not to say there isn't some very unusual mundane explanation in some cases), to the point where leo and s&r cannot explain what happened
So true
I hate it when someone says they passed a "polygraph", doesn't mean $hit, that's why they are not admissible in court.
They're easy to fail if someone's innocent but very hard to pass if someone's guilty. They're used to rule people out for that reason
an experienced competent polygraphist can be very helpful, but true its definitely not fool proof !
The FBI uses them all the time, tho: they can definitely be helpful in initial stages of these kinds of investigations.
Combine an Ouija board with a lie detector and you might just have something! HAHA!
I'd never pay a nickel for that information
I have been hiking in deep woods with friends before and suddenly had a very odd feeling of danger. Not sure why, but we turned back and didn't go any further.
‘Spidey senses’ need to be listened to and trusted…You may never know why but it was smart of you to turn back
Had the same feeling once. Turned back and hours later drove by and saw route was now closed due to bear activity.
So your whole story is you got a little anxious one time. And you think that means what exactly?
Are you a non-believer? Have you never had a weird feeling something was off?@nunliski
You were probably being stalked by a cougar.
I live in Port Angeles Washington, only 17 mi away from Olympic National Park. I was so glad to see that David was interviewed on the local news. I have been following his channel on TH-cam for years now. I hope other people check out his channel and subscribe. Be careful out there everyone!❤
My friend was a professional trapper and sold trapping supplies and so on. Many years ago (maybe 30) his friend who was a trapper and the trappers girl friend and toddler were in the woods. Something happened and the two adults disappeared not far from Mineral Lake. The toddler was found unharmed by the Roy 'Y' by a department store. They assumed that maybe the boyfriend had killed the woman. Later they found his skull in the woods.
Interesting story, did they ever find her remains?
@@Laffy1345 Yes, they did. They found her first & the boyfriend's skull yrs. later. Not sure but I think they identified the killer too, they initially thought it was him because he had some violence issues yrs. earlier. The young child kept saying (before mom was found) that 'mommy was in a tree' It's a haunting story, wish I could remember the names, but glad that at least the child was found & reunited with her grandma (the child's pic was posted in a newspaper, that's how her grandma located her after reporting them missing).
@@kazamareenkurios8197With the info you have shared we may be able to Google this incident!
I found this case under tube sock murderers and I mentioned mineral lake and camping! Another prior double murder happened before this one! The child was found out side a K- mart store 2 mi. away! She said Mommy was up a tree! 😮
Mommy was in a tree huh? I wonder if he saw some supernatural thing happen and mommy literally got taken into a tree.
Who knows.
The under grow is so thick in Western Washington, that that would explain any disappearance. You can't see farther then 50 to 100 feet in any direction. a lot of times even less.
Don't tell that to the 411 believers. They actually believe that the disappearances are the result of some nefarious operation conducted by Bigfoot, the government, and possibly aliens. I am not joking or exaggerating. That is what the Missing 411 is about.
Man disappears in Elbe hills near Mt. Ranier, me being raised up there as a hunter tracker offer to help police locate this lost man. Police/rescue refuse my local knowledge, man dies in forest.
Well that was very sick! So sorry they refused help! 😮
You’d think they’d welcome 6:27 a local with specific knowledge- but egos get in the way. Or maybe “their insurance made it prohibitive” or some such nonsense.
Just driving up through Elbe is spooky enough. There’s something not right up in them woods…
Most of Dave's cases rule out conventional or mundane explanations such as misadventure, accidents, predators, foul play, voluntary disappearances, etc. (though sometimes his research falls short on details).
That happened in SE Washington when a teenager left the trail from his cross country skiing companions. The locals who knew the area like the back of their hand, were not allowed to help search for him. The boy was found dead from hypothermia the next morning. Too sad.
Read David Paulides books and watch his movies. I’m a long time fan of David’s work. He is a retired police detective and does thorough research. You won’t go into the deep woods alone again.
Yes, his channel is excellent...!
Yes! It is an excellent channel!! I never miss a video he puts up.
He is a disgraced cop, got caught trying to solicit autographs from celebrities while serving as a court liason. His research, if you call it that, gets debunked on a regular basis. You 'villagers' need to do your own research and quit taking DP for his word.
I attended a Sun Bear event on Mt. Rainier in the mid-90's. It was a large group of people and most of the time I was involved in group activities. However, the 1st night I had trouble going to sleep. I went to take a quiet walk around the camp when all of a sudden I got this "bad feeling". I stood at the entrance of our tent and looked out into the forest. The odd thing was that there wasn't a single night sound... always an indication to me that there was a major predator in the forest. I stood there and felt my heart start pounding in my chest with an overwhelming sense of fear. I looked around at the others sleeping to see if anyone else had awaken. But all was quiet...too quiet. The 2nd and last night we were there, I was too frightened to sleep. My logical mind kept telling me there was nothing wrong but my intuition warned me to stay vigilant. Mt. Rainier is an old and beautiful place...but it wasn't safe. I never went back.
sounds intense 😳 - the silence was a dead give away that something was there that did not belong there. always listen to the sounds around you 👂🏼
I've been solo hiking and climbing in the Olympics and all over the Cascades along with other ranges in the lower 48's like the Sierras for about 13 years and have never had a mishap. Ultra awareness of your location with a GPS or a paper topographical map is key, along with food, clothing, emergency blanket. Avoid cold wet weather unless very prepared and know your physical limits.
I solo hike also. I’m very aware, only do decently traveled hikes & easy to moderate hikes. I would never hike if I waited for someone else
PPPPP = Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance
The missing case in Washington that I find the most interesting is the case of Sam Sayers. They had experienced searchers out looking for her within hours of her disappearance. They hired private search and rescue teams who spent months scouting every inch of the area she vanished from with dogs, drones, etc. Never found a single trace of her. My guess is that she made it off the Mountain and was abducted in the parking lot at the trailhead!!
the tardigrades got her , and took her underground
@@xxxsandman Many have said, yes, they are being taken underground (but into the DUMBs) for adrenochrome. I would not be surprised. The world is asleep to so much.
who is the abductor
My guess is she was taken from the sky 😮
😮It would be easy to fall in a crevasse where no one , not even a dog would go!
Sorry for the people who got lost and their families. This news channel is cool and the hosts are nice and easy to watch and quite stylish ❤
I have hiked alone for 25 years. Still have not gotten lost or died. I'm one in a million!
It's important to know your limitations. Don't hike alone in inclement weather or anywhere you're not familiar. Also don't take on hikes that are at the limit of your ability. I see people hike alone in the deep snow miles from the nearest popular trail and have to wonder how many lives they've used up.
They talk about there being these clusters, but I wonder: these are some really popular areas. Are there more people going missing here just because that's where people go?
you'd think it could be that simple, but the ratio is still much higher in the cluster
zones. and these cases fir specific criteria that render them "unexplainable". So its not just the area it happens in but the nature of the even and the circumstances surrounding the search.
Washington has some very unforgiving terrain, and if you don't know what you're doing it'll kill you fast.
It’s because there’s a cougar in the area who’s learned humans are very easy meal.
It is ludicrous how easy it is to get lost in the woods.
It's not hard to just stay on the trails.
Especially in Washington State
Hartonas and Vikili were not the most experienced in the world! That is a Huge stretch! They had “some” experience but not enough. They went up in bad weather which any relatively experienced person knows is a bad idea, they didn’t have a tent and had to make it all the way to Muir in order to have shelter! I helped search for them for 8 days!
And! They went up in the worst weather month on Mt Rainier. They got caught in bad weather and had to dig in, that’s why they were never found because they likely dug a big snow cave for shelter, then the weather turned really bad and they were buried alive!
Very interesting, thanks for the info! As a fan of Dave, this is where some of his research just falls far short. Some of the cases he presents, on paper are mysterious, but upon closer inspection could be explained. Some, though, do defy any rational explanation. At the very least his books do raise awareness of these cases, and his yt channel often promotes the idea of responsible outdoorsmanship.
Shhh. You walked into a circlejerk and are killing the vibe. Missing 411 is for people who want to blame disappearances on bigfoot, aliens, and the govt.
Have any of these missing people carried a tracking device on them? Like the Garmin device? Or are all these people untraceable?
@@cynthial841 I don’t think these two guys had that technology with them. They may of had a gps with them but that only allows the people to find their way, not others to find them
Definitely checking it out. I've already read a number of missing cases in national parks here in the PNW, wish it had incorporated Oregon too though.
Crater Lake. Kid on spectrum went missing. Been a decade or two.
Maybe he did one or that will be his next venture!!! I know he did a show on many missing from the Cascade Mtns. around Sister's and Bend, Or... where I live!
Dave Paulides has a new movie out called Missing 411 the UFO Connection. It features an interesting case on Weyerhaeuser property near Mt Rainier.
@@catherinemesick6018 That film bit. He makes a triangle on a map with bullets, marking locations of cases, then tries to compare it to a triangular UFO sketch oO So cringe...........
@@deerichardzit did not “bite”. You obviously have not followed his other films or read his books. He never said the triangle shape on the map resembled a triangle UFO. He maps cluster cases. David presents facts, it’s up to the viewer to connect the dots. You can deny the presence of otherworldly beings all you want but that does not make them any less real.
Mountain lions ,quiet and quick 🇺🇸✔️
you forgot about the sled and their belongings .
Probably not the case on the Muir Snowfield, but maybe some of the other cases.
Mountain lions don't clean up after themselves
@@ronaldyarush9907 Umm yes they do. I was hiking once and one crossed the trail we were on carrying bleach, broom, bag, and duct tape. He then said, "Nothing to see here. Happy hiking." Yes, cats can talk.
Many have said they are getting pulled into the D.U.M.B.s for adrenochrome.
I was stationed at the North Cascade National Park before Mt.St.Helens.
I remember reading an article in the Seattle Times ( YEARS AGO) and it talked about all the people who have simply vanished there. Some of the stories were absolutely fascinating , one guy Stopped at the Longmire Ranger station parking lot on a Spring/ Summer day to go bird watching and was never seen again. I’m sure he somehow wondered off the trail and got lost , 🤷♂️
The guys walking ( basically) up to Muir , in the hottest part of summer only when you get within site of it is there snow. They must’ve tried there hike at a different time to be seriously dangerous , I didn’t see any crevasses in that area at all. That story is definitely a strange one.
An urbanized population interfacing with the wilderness it is surprising more people don't go missing. The two "experienced" guys gone from Mt. Rainier were not Daniel Boone types. They were modern urban people with experience and gear probably taking chances. No need for Twilight Zone music here, such cases are what you would expect. And searches done "shoulder to shoulder" do not happen in rough wilderness so such areas are not really searched. More likely searchers walk trails and roads, look over embankment, make noise, fly over the area, and the clincher you are in good hands; obese "searchers" ride quads down dirt roads. These cases are not mysterious at all.
Nice to see someone using common sense.
When I lived in the area, I got the impression that many people thought you could just hike up Mt. Rainier. Maybe it was because the whole park is so pretty and easy to get to from cities, with maintained roads, picnick areas, etc.
there are more than a few airplane crashes still hiding on Rainier. So a body would be way harder to locate than aircraft. Too much area, too dangerous to go looking.
@@mssmssmssmssMaybe because you CAN just hike up Mt. St. Helens! I've been up there twice, to the crater dome! But, St. Helens is different that Rainier for sure!
When I was on my way up Rainuer, I passed people who had strolled up a half hour from the lodge- wearing dress shoes and Sunday best. In the snow. Not prepared for a cloud to roll in.
Yay David Paulides! He's been researching & reporting on these missing persons cases many years & I'm a fan & subscriber of his TH-cam channel for years. Great man doing important work!
More like he has been scamming a lot of people. He has brought nothing to the missing person genre, cept his 'fraudulent' grift.
I love this series! Thank you, Dan! Fun to see the U.S. through your eyes.
Governor Inslee should lead the state legislators into the wilderness in a search for these missing persons.
Hahahahaha WE CAN ONLY HOPE!!!!! 🤣😂
I bet the expedition could be crowd funded very very quickly. That man is very hated
How generous of them to give themselves back to nature!
Inslee is too stupid and self-centered to care.
It'd be nice if inslee would go in the woods and not come back
Yup. I have summited Rainier three times. Although not on any of these trips, I have had friends lost on the Muir snowfield.
My childhood dentist’s brother fell down a crevasse and will never be found on Rainier
I fell shoulder-deep into a small crevasse once. It was no big deal to me at the time because I was roped up to a quick-thinking partner. But later I thought about how unnerving it was to have the bottom drop out from under you, and how quickly and unexpectedly a life-threatening event can happen.
@@rebeccaleegabbard I am so sorry to hear about this loss of life.
@@RetNemmoc555 Your climbing partner is everything. I am glad you got out safe.
The Muir snowfield doesn't have crevasses, it is not a glaciated portion of the climb. but if you get up to Camp Muir and make a wrong turn....that is where my friends have disappeared.
Way back out of high school I worked at Ranier. Despite many trips from the lodge up to Camp Muir, on one ocassion I wandered off onto the Nisqually glacier, and only realized my mistake when I came upon a large crevass. If I had fallen into it, I would be one of the mystery missing. Nothing mysterious about people getting lost in the fog or dark on the trip to or from Muir - lots of rescues on that stretch.
I live 3 miles from Olympic National Park. For 30 years I hiked & backpacked all over California. But I never trek alone up here. Even wearing my 1911 and equipped with top notch survival gear, I just get an eerie feeling that ruins the whole point of getting out there
Mr. Paulides had been ahead of the times on this topic. He should be able to apply for a government grant to afford further investigations.
No, he's just trying to copy other autho's on the missing person genre. His success is due to the internet and gulllible people. The government doesn't usually hand out grants for grifts either.
Makes me scared to hike alone, but I'm new to this area and don't have anyone to go with, not even a dog.
Let local police
angers know in advance. Then ,if anything happens.....
Look for a hiking club , meet others to hike with!
So don't go.
The Sierra club organizes wonderful hikes in many areas.
The Sierra Club here has leaders who like to hike too fast and leave slower ones behind. Not cool.
They're not finding these old cases. I had a friend 'take a long walk into the woods on purpose' if you get what I'm saying. They were found eventually, but the bone field was spread out over the size of a football field. Once scavengers get to work they can destroy evidence in a matter of weeks.
When my daughter and I first moved to Portland, Oregon, there was a young girl who went missing hiking up in the Gorge. Her mom was coming in the next day to go hiking with her. Sadly, she had fallen off a trail and broken her neck. Her body went under the foliage and could not be found by local cops. Luckily, her family had connections and/or mone, and they hired a team of professionals who located her within 24 hours. I think this happens often in the PNW. And the animals get to the remains, and that is that.
Another thing that I enjoyed recently was listening to an audiobook about The Bermuda Triangle. I forget the exact name of the book. They had ships that survived this phenomenon, where some kind of fog enveloped the entire ship, including some kind of fizz or something that made the water look white. When they got inside this fog, they lost track of time, and if it was an airplane, they might fly hundreds of miles in a short time in a way that wasn't possible. They would see the ship's magnetic compass spinning around. It was so common to see the magnetic compasses behaving strangely that people who sail in the Bermuda Triangle take it for granted almost as a joke, like 'Ha ha, the compass is going crazy again,' and then they go on with life, if nothing else happens.
You do know, there is regular traffic, air and water, that goes right through the 'triangle' this very day, right?
@@deerichardz Yeah? People still go there. Things don't happen to EVERY ship or plane that goes through there. The phenomena are intermittent and unpredictable.
@@eagledove9 Nothiing happens due to any 'phenomena'. Otherwise it would be in the news, and airlines would be getting sued SMH Think before you slap a comment down will ya.
@@deerichardz Wow, I'd better CAREFULLY CONSIDER my not-at-all-insulting-to-anybody comment, because somebody somewhere might take it personally and get horribly offended at my mentioning of the Bermuda Triangle! Gotta think before I comment! The trolls are out today. You always know you're talking about the truth whenever the disinformation trolls start having their screaming meltdowns about how evil you are for talking about the truth.
@@eagledove9 Do whatever you wanna do. TH-cam is an open social media platform. You make a comment, you 'just' might get a reply, imagine that SMH
I used to hike alone in the middle of the night here in western washington all the time when I was younger cuz I liked to enjoy the sunrise at high peaks. Believe me when I say that even if you go out there into the woods and mountains alone, you are truly never alone. You will sense that you are being watched by something.
The areas mentioned here are vast in size and many areas are thick with undergrowth. Visibility is often just a few yards and only an accomplished outdoorsman should attempt a trek through such conditions. Without constant compass readings and a good estimate of speed and distance traveled, it’s a risky move to go into the wilderness areas of Washington state.
Many years ago I rescued a fella about twenty five miles north of Camas Washington in thick underbrush carrying a fishing pole and totally lost. He was only 30 yards or so from the road yelling help, but unknowingly paralleling the road. I faintly heard his yelling as I was driving my old ford down the gravel road and stopped and honked the horn. His voice picked up and it was clear he was frantic. I yelled back to him and he finally appeared, waving his fishing pole in the air and mighty glad to find someone. For a few years, I was in the Silver Star search and rescue group and they used CB radios to coordinate their searches for lost individuals.
They said if you are walking in the deep woods for more than 10 minutes, you have already been seen by a mountain lion
Gulp!
This gentleman must have his facts wrong. In the first story, he states that "the parents were behind some trees 150 yards away." Now, I don't care where you are but if you're out in public and your young children are 150 yards away from you then YOU ARE TOO FAR AWAY.
He's not talking about the possibility that many of these cluster areas disappearances may be related to sex traffickers. Other searchers have talked about this. It's just one more reason why you should never hike alone.
Also a well written news article several years back determined that many of the missing cases are not reported soon enough which means valuable time was lost in which victims could have been found. And that the park services aren't always set up to be prepared for missing people searches and so getting dogs, organized law enforcement and volunteers to go out to look for those that are lost can also take additional time. There was a tracker noted in that article that was able to go out and find at least a couple of the victims bodies. They were actually in the area where they first went missing. But because of thick brush or the landscape the original search party didn't find them. Basically there's lots of issues when it comes to missing persons in a park and there needs to be a better system put in place when someone goes missing.
Does missing 411 keep their records updated when someone that is reported as missing is found?
YESSS
Not the books , but he covers any and everything new on CanAm missing project, his youtube channel
No. He does not correct himself. He could write ten books on corrections alone. The y are very inaccurate and misleading.
Sorry, there's no such things as he says there is, he's a very nice man and truly believes in what he says is happening, it's simply human errors or hidden, old holes, you can take one step wrong and end up under a large icy crevice, where you'll never be found, most hikers don't follow the rules and that's how they really disappear.
Has anyone ever seen a dead deer carcus? Same reason you will never find a human body. Animals scavenger it within hours.
True, but what about the shoes, clothing, cell phone or hiking gear.
Yes, I have seen MANY deer, rabbit, bird, cow carcasses. It takes days, sometimes weeks for scavengers to get rid of the basics (skin, eyes, organs,...) but there is hair, and bones for months and years.
@@chinookvalleyOK well I have lived in the back country of the Cascades for 25 years and never once seen any.
I have found a freshly killed deer. And it was almost completely buried with just an antler sticking up. I pulled the head out of the ground. On my way back it was covered back up.
Cougars. They’ll eat humans too.
I think I will just walk around my house🎉😂
That's my strategy.
Inside!!
I hiked camp Muir, would have to look at when! OMG!
I heard about Mt Rainier in the late 90s (ET/Mt Shasta).
He's a hack. People get lost and die , simple. No mystery unless you want to sell something over someone's tragedy.
Look up in the trees, no scent, i wonder if those sleds are now Sasquatch ManBlind porches 10 stories up a huge old thick tree in the canopy?
My dog and I were walking in a city park, there was a guy, and my dog pulled me out of there. I truly believe he saved my life. He's an LGD, and the best dog ever. 💖🐾
Vancouver Island many dissappearences
Can we send our Politicians to THIS Washington???
I've hiked all over Mnt. Rainer ,Olympics ,from the 60s on ,I was in search and rescue, I'd go on campouts alone a few times around M.R.N.P. JESUS WAS ALWAYS WITH ME , However I know two people that say they were abducted up near Rainer by aliens !
You forgot to out illegal before aliens
jesus lol seek therapy
@@michaelblake1023Go to 3rd and Pike and just walk around for 2 hours and I'll send you $500 on Venmo
I've listened to Mr. Paulides 411 interviews on AM Coast to Coast.
Art Bell never bought into his '411'.
Every one... Listen to this respected fellow. He knows what’s going on- and doesn’t brag about it. Smart and real.
Dave is an absolute legend.
Anyone just driving through a forested area can literally see how easy it is for someone to disappear from sight just from the road. It’s not difficult to get lost even if you’re an experienced hiker.
the lizard people got em
No one wants to believe it could be super natural but it is.
ghosts, aliens , Bigfoot or vampires ? are you off your Thorazine ?
Great quote but don't remember who - Not only is the universe stranger than we suppose, but it's far stranger than we CAN suppose. Ppl like to think that with modern science we got it all figured out. Ask any specialists on the forefront of cutting edge research on any particular area of the sciences. We really, really don't.
Maybe it’s too much Why Files but my first thought was “Big Foot, Aliens, Boom!”
Those two areas are extremely rugged hiking. Not for beginners. Lots of optimistic people over-estimate their stamina, coordination, skills with map and compass.
History channel: "It was aliens."
Yay! Dave Paulides goes mainstream, FINALLY!!!! WAY TO GO, DAVE. You deserve this, and so do all the missing... God bless you.
He's been mainstream
Are you a 'villager'?
You don't know this man at all.
My family and children were threatened by people connected to his page.
Even used my dead grandson as a reference to what was going to happen to my kids and loved ones.
The only thing I did was try to spread the truth about Sasquatch.
This man also invited me to his personal page directly after the threat about me winding up on the missing 411 list, instead of fixing the threats they reminded me of the threat I received 7 years ago against my own children.
For trying to spread truth about the government.
He's probably a Mason and has handlers.
If you look closely at his eyes in pictures on the internet, he's a Nephilim. Or eljo his eyes aren't right.
He's evil and I don't believe his son offed himself either.
@@Shadoweknows76I THINK IF they wanted to keep a lid on things, David Paulides wouldn't have been allowed to do this for so long. He's shining a torchlight on what otherwise would hardly be news.
I've hiked the Muir snowfield and up to Camp Muir. It's pretty wide open and straightforward, interesting that two experienced people could just *disappear* ...
Stumble on a meth kitchen in the in the middle of no where that's how you go missing
Someone stumbles in my mother in laws kitchen, then eats her food, they'll go missing too.
True. Went on a college trip into Idaho and the people in charge made a HUGE DEAL about not wandering away from the group.
Did KOMO know what they were getting into here? I see they listed the author's website, but otherwise tiptoed around the conspiracy theories...
I don't think they did !😮
Agreed, I’ve tried to listen to David Paulide’s YT Channel and quickly lost interest. He may have good intentions, trying to help find people and writing about people who have gone missing or have been murdered, but he’s too opinionated (esp. re: politics) and readily shares his (biased) opinions. He also lacks critical thinking/reasoning skills in his assessments. As a former Police Officer, I would expect more a logical and reasoned approach. Sadly, he doesn’t seem to be mentally healthy and I hope he gets help if and when it’s needed.
Alien abduction?
😂
Did they look up?
Have they ever tried ground penetrating radar on any case?
A small child wakes up and immediately will go looking for a parent.
I wonder if the 'scream' they heard was a cougar. a small child would make enticing prey
When walking in the wilderness 1. Don't hike alone. 2. Stay on the trail. 3. If you hear something in the woods. No you didn't. 4. If you see something in the woods. No you didn't. 5. If you hear someone call your name. No they didn't. 6. If a river rock is in your path turn and walk back. 7. If an egg is in your path turn and run back to your car and leave the woods.
so scary!!
Hey Dave, ive been following you for years now good to see him getting exposure...
The more exposure he gets, the more exposed he will be. The guy ain't honest.
Thank you for having David Paulides reply on this program.
Bigfoot needs a new friend.
Something is out in these mountains, when you go to certain areas or its just a certain type of day you can feel something around or just in the air itself. Ive had very odd instances with and without people and pets. People of all types will tell you the same.
One of the more odd things was seeing a part of my campsite get brighter at about 7:30pm in October about 10 miles outside of the Henry Jackson wilderness. Saw 1/4 of my campsite get bright like a BMW was driving up to us but we were the only people in the area for miles. Only had 2 other trucks pass 5 hours prior that day.
Sounds like alien abduction to me. There is no tracks, scent trails, snagged clothing, etc when you go straight up.
Esoteric Atlanta has good summaries of disappearances.
A WWII bomber went missing in 1943 and was buried in snow until 2014 or so... If an airplane can disappear, I'd think a sled could, pretty easy.
David has a great TH-cam channel with all these baffling cases
He deletes any comment that offers legit criticism. His channel is in decline.
Crevasses are big and deep, and the snow falls fast sometimes. I think this guy is trying to sell books.
There's puma's in the crevasses..
Joe Biden's Bull $hit is also really deep, so what are you trying to say??
Go watch his documentary before making uninformed comments
David Paulidas was oneof the first people to highlight just how many people have come up missing with zero trace in many of our US National parks and forests! Too many to be just animal attacks where clothing would be found or something! There have been many odd occurrences... so he deserves to earn respect and money for his continued efforts! If you were someone with a family member missing you might have more respect!
If he's trying to prove the existence of Bigfoot/Sasquatch, genetic evidence, even via poop, ought to be available and already found and analyzed.@@wildone106
Thank you from aurora ave
You work aurora ?
@@martinmoore5335 Human trafficking. 🤡
The truth will come out. Bless this man for seeking answers 🙏 Notice how they never ask how many are actually missing????
Those people were being ‘watched’ by someone. Creepy
My husband and I were financial backers for David Paulides first movie, Missing 411.
Wish he would have said what ages those missing men were.
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But he did tho…? 🤨 40 and 48
When you go out of your safe zone, carry a firearm if want to live to my age 63
Read his books… even the most armed and skilled are snatched up by what ever evil is out there preying on people not paying attention.
@@deeznutz3958the most armed and skilled have good situational awareness. If not, then they are armed and stupid, not armed and skilled.
Guns won't work against shape shifting interdimensional extraterrestrials.
I rv’d in Washington for 8 months. There are some strange things that live in nature there. There is a lot of interact with you and your reality, but you can’t affect them the same way.
KOMO watcher for over 65 years. The elephant in the room is potentially extra terrestrial or even ultra terrestrial.
Taking people is not far from cattle mutilation. All going on forever.
HEY I have that hat.. AND the book 🫂 RIP Ben 🙏
The two hosts didn't know what to do with David. They seemed a little uncomfortable with the subject matter. He's a great guy and if you aren't familiar with him and his books than then I highly suggest to check him out. Being informed of these disappearances can make a big difference in hiking safety and understanding your surroundings. And as he says, NEVER hike alone. At this point in time, it's just not a good idea.
I wonder if that 3rd, unnamed man had an intuitive feeling and went back because if it. If so, it probably saved him.
Try to go hiking with a friend if you can!
I can see why police were suspicious of Jimmy’s parents. Polygraphs are far from reliable, and their story doesn’t sound believable at all.
Polygraphs are not accepted as evidence in court for a reason….
And there’s an obvious answer, always suspect the last person of contact
I recommend every one of the 411 missing films
And books
His stories are incredible & very mysterious
That's how he cons the gullible and ill-informed. He is a hack. It's easy info to find. Start with the channel Zealous Beast.
@@deerichardz do you have ant links to give credence to your statement?
Im interested
@@lovepet4565 Yup, see my other comment.
Love your work and thank you so much Mr. colitis
There are people who have died on Tiger Mountain, which is typically a day hike. A spooky (real) story from several years ago is that there was someone who was tasering women and dragging them off into the woods. I think this is probably similar to stories on the Appalachian trail. So, no solo hiking for me, thank you!
Ted Bundy disposed of his victims there... They never found whole bodies, only scatterings of body parts...
Unless those three hiker went into a crevasse? Just thought id throw that out there to see what ya'll thought...❤
So many mysteries we dont know of....
Woah Walter white, he's come a long way ! A director now and a series of books!
It tracks that BTK would have such brilliant insights into possible serial killings...