The Schuyler Wide Margin Quentel NASB -- Full Review

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  • @mhbpodcast
    @mhbpodcast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoy your reviews. Your attention to detail is unmatched and your tone is very relaxing. You're like the Bob Ross of Bible reviewers.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for that kind comment!

    • @nickvasiliades4537
      @nickvasiliades4537 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol...I'm detecting more of a Fred Rogers vibe (also a compliment R. Grant!)

  • @gipper759
    @gipper759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have seen many other videos of this particular Bible, but This is without a doubt THE BEST one. I have ordered one based on your review. Thanks you did a really good job!

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for that encouraging comment!

  • @stevenfrasier5718
    @stevenfrasier5718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are such a professional Bible Reviewer. Your voice is soothing, too.
    If there were awards for reviewing Bibles, you would have a wall full of plaques.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for those encouraging words, steven!

    • @jaynelsestuen9038
      @jaynelsestuen9038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seconded.

    • @maryl.7226
      @maryl.7226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thirded.

    • @gscgold
      @gscgold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here here

  • @BibleBuyingGuide
    @BibleBuyingGuide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review! I love your level of detail. Your charts are very informative.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks very much for the kind comment, Bible Buying Guide!

  • @erikknudsen4034
    @erikknudsen4034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You probably haven't heard this before, but you have quite an eye for detail. :)
    Great job on the video, really enjoyed it!

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words, Erik! One person called me 'punctilious'.

  • @MessengerOfSaintJacob
    @MessengerOfSaintJacob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The combination of the F and i is something certain fonts will do called ligatures. There are a few combinations that are used, but as I've seen it, fi is the most common.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I didn't know that term.

  • @charlene1977
    @charlene1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting about that chart comparing versions.

  • @LindaFromMySelfCareStudio
    @LindaFromMySelfCareStudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for another excellent Bible review! I have been saving for a Schuyler NASB wide margin for a very long time. I started to worry that they’re going to stop printing it in the 1995 version, so I’ve been looking around at reviews for the Cambridge just in case. However, I have a PSQ NASB that I wanted the wide margin to line up with. I did not realize that RL Allan offers a wide margin NASB, because when I looked at their website there weren’t any. Thank you again, your videos are most helpful. Blessings, Linda

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much for the encouraging comment, Linda!

  • @chrishamilton1189
    @chrishamilton1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Giant bible. New NASB single column is dropping April 2022. It a wide margin with larger font then this and a smaller bible. Got mine preordered. Its gonna be fire!

  • @brotherarn
    @brotherarn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review. Your commentary is on point. You share so much knowledge. Putting together other videos that you shared in the past with this video as a point of reference is a great idea. Thank you for sharing. Keep up the great work

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much for your kind comments!

  • @VVaby
    @VVaby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you provide a link to the original 45 gsm quintel nasb ?

  • @musclebuilder3395
    @musclebuilder3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good through review. My observation on the left text being lighter than text on the right, to my eye watching on my tablet, it looks like the way you have the light striking the pages, the left page is lighter than the right page making the right page text seem bolder or shadowed, at least on the video. In person it could be different. God Bless 😂

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for commenting, Muscle Builder! I did think of that. The print on the left page is still lighter if I move the light to the other side. Plus, I don't notice this effect with other books.

  • @johnericpamintuan4800
    @johnericpamintuan4800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quick question. How can you afford these bibles? Are they gifted or sponsored?

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The expensive ones are usually presents (birthday or Christmas). Perhaps one of these days I'll accept Bibles for review from publishers. Thanks for the question!

  • @nehml
    @nehml 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schuyler is great, along with Allans and those other premiums but theyre really really really really expensive when they go here in the far-east. Yet awesome review with the fonts and spacing. Everyone (in US) in going crazy about this though.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I imagine postage alone is a killer. Thanks for commenting!

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't worry, they're expensive here in the US too. You can get a Bible that's at least 90% as good as the Schuylers (except for the wide margins mostly) for half the price or less.

    • @maryl.7226
      @maryl.7226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoastBeefSandwich Hi; wondering (if appropriate under another's upload) what recommendations you might share regarding those less expensive Bibles? Thanks!

    • @griffithsharp
      @griffithsharp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maryl.7226 the only ones i can think of are church bible publishers or thomas nelson comfort prints. some crossways are great and cheaper as well.

  • @edwardgraham9443
    @edwardgraham9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a beautifully made Bible. Even with print non-unifirmity. The font seems large enough and the margins are good. I suppose they placed the references at the bottom to keep the width of the Bible down, and while I prefer centre column references, I'm okay with this in a wide margin Bible. It's a thick bible and I love a thick Bible. I'm wondering if Thomas Nelson will go the same when they release the NKJV wide margin next year? Nevertheless, this is a great Bible and I'm trying to get myself an NASB Bible, I've grown to love it. Sadly the updated 2020 edition isn't for me from what I've seen so far. It will be less literal and that is the strength of the NASB. Great review once more.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for commenting, Edward! Regarding the 2020 NAS, I think enough people will agree with you to give the LSB strong sales when it comes out. Perhaps high-end LSBs will be on the market in a few years.
      My only real issue with this Bible is the print. Some pages appear to my eyes almost as if they're covered with a thin film. The spectrum of the lamp on my desk can be adjusted, and I'm experimenting with warmer light. Initial results are promising -- the contrast seems to increase. I plan to try it under various conditions (at night, cloudy day, sunny day) to see how well it works.
      Nelson has a great opportunity with its wide margin. They'll probably print only red letter copies, but I've come to regard the red letters in the classic verse-by-verse center-column reference Bible as acceptable. (I'd prefer black ink, but these red characters are readable.) The NKJV Comfort Print font is _superior_ to the Milo, in my opinion. I think the key will be the paper. If it's thick and matte, the Nelson NKJV wide margin text block will probably be better than that in the Schuyler Wide Margin Quentel NKJV. Nelson will doubtless fall short in the hide department.

    • @edwardgraham9443
      @edwardgraham9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones As is the norm, Nelson has never been able to match the quality of Schuyler when it comes to leather, but on font, they are comparable and even exceed Schuyler. Their premier collections are normally all black letters and I've been told it will also be done in the premier collection. For the most part, (I've never owned one of their premier Bibles or any premium Bible for that matter) I've heard that the paper quality is very good. And as for the binding, it can always be rebound. I'm eagerly waiting for this one and even saving for it too. Postage to Jamaica can be a lot, but christianbook.com usually has a reasonable shipping rate (around $20-25) to Jamaica, most of the time it is the cost of the Bible itself that is prohibitive. A Nelson premium Bible is almost a month's salary for me, can you therefore imagine the cost of a Schuyler? 😂 I'm hoping that it will be good and this can be the one Bible I go all out for. It may mean I don't get an NASB or any other Bible, but I'd be okay. What I'll be doing is waiting for the reviews then make a decision, if not I'll go for the classic verse by verse even though it's red letter.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edwardgraham9443 - Your information must be more reliable than my speculations! I tend to be pessimistic about these things to avoid disappointment.

    • @edwardgraham9443
      @edwardgraham9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RGrantJones pessimism has its place, especially when it's a buffer against disappointment, and with these Bible publishers, one tends to be more disappointed than they are satisfied. Let's hope Nelson delivers this time, for my sake anyhow and those who've been crying out for a long time for a NKJV Wide Margin

  • @hassanmirza2392
    @hassanmirza2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful Bibles. I think it makes sense to buy holy books, JRR Tolkien novels, Persian poetry and other important humanities books only in hard cover or leather edition. It gives books the grace which they deserve.
    I feel like hard covers and leatherbacks are something like higher culture and they give a soul and grace to the library and the home which contains that library. Paperbacks are like pop culture, they wear off very fast, and then you need a new one. Not very respectful towards important books.

  • @RGrantJones
    @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Bible may be purchased here: evangelicalbible.com/product-category/schuyler-bibles/schuyler-quentel-nasb-wide-margin/ . The unboxing video may be viewed here: th-cam.com/video/nQjWzhI-I50/w-d-xo.html .

  • @alterego1534
    @alterego1534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please, can you give me your recommendation for the most accurate english Orthodox Bible which includes all eastern Orthodox books of the Bible.

  • @stephengilbreath840
    @stephengilbreath840 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm just not a fan of putting references on the bottom all jumbled up. I like them to be in the center column

  • @markmyers3188
    @markmyers3188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish the would of made the Vers numbers red like they did the chapters. I find it hard for my eyes to locate a verse on the page because it blends in with letters.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. Red verse numbers would be an improvement. Thanks for commenting!

  • @gleasonparker1684
    @gleasonparker1684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have The New American Standard Bible in the regular size Quentel.
    I don't necessarily want the wide margin because they reduce the font in those.
    The Nelson premier DOES NOT.

  • @reecemesser
    @reecemesser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you review the 5WM Allan Clarendon brevier. I enjoy all your reviews

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Reece! To answer your question, yes, I could review the 5WM. The only problem is that the copy I have is a few years old. By the way, I did a partial review of it a couple of years ago, in which I examined a few print issues. th-cam.com/video/u9g-GebDHkw/w-d-xo.html .

    • @reecemesser
      @reecemesser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones I asked because I did come across that video of yours before but I wanted to see if any improvements were made before purchasing the new one.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reecemesser - ok. I could show the copy I own more thoroughly, but since I don't have the latest printing, I doubt such a video would be much help. Perhaps you could email Bibles Direct and ask them whether they've done anything to correct or improve the broken characters that were present in earlier printings. info@bibles-direct.co.uk .

  • @danshumway9031
    @danshumway9031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. Jones, I thought of you the other day when I found on eBay a green letter KJV Bible published by Collins / world publishers. I believe it was published in the late 70's. The words of Christ are printed in green and knowing what a big fan of red-letter Bibles you are, I was wondering if you had ever seen one of these.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very interesting! No, I've not seen a green-letter Bible.

  • @kylec8950
    @kylec8950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please Schyuler, make this NKJV. The NKJV market is very limited when it comes to high quality wide-margin Bibles. The only one I know of is the Cambridge and its tiny print/margins. I used to be NASB advocate but further studies have led me to the "traditional" text.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m sure a NKJV will follow before too long. My guess is they did NASB right after the KJV so they could get out ahead of the 2020 NASB revision.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think RoastBeefSandwich is right. Also, I heard a rumor that Nelson will be producing a wide-margin NKJV soon. I like the Nelson Comfort Print NKJV font better than the Milo, but Nelson is likely to publish a red letter edition, and the paper quality is a huge variable.

    • @edwardgraham9443
      @edwardgraham9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones Randy Brown from Biblebuyingguide.com on his TH-cam channel confirmed that they are indeed coming out with one. He has a bit of info on it, but wasn't sure he was allowed to share it, so he didn't. Said he get back to me on it. I'm quite excited about it, to be honest.

    • @edwardgraham9443
      @edwardgraham9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RoastBeefSandwich Yes they are going to release the ride margin in NKJV, in fact, according to evangelicalbible.com, Schuyler is releasing the wide margin accross their quentel line of Bibles, so we'll see it in the NKJV, ESV and CSB as well in the near future.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edwardgraham9443 yes I'm sure we'll see them in every translation they do before long. It does take them a long time to roll out Bibles though. I guess it's a small team, or they're using profits from the previous model to fund the next model's printing costs, etc.

  • @michaelfalsia6062
    @michaelfalsia6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The font is too small. We need at least an 8 point semi bold font. But it is a beautiful Bible. So well made.

  • @kevinzabihi3768
    @kevinzabihi3768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow! where can one purchase the 55 gsm oxford bible?

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it's no longer in print. You can find a 45 gsm edition at bibles-direct.com ( www.bibles-direct.co.uk/products/view.php?id=334&c=71 ) .

    • @kevinzabihi3768
      @kevinzabihi3768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones thank you! Just to clarify- this is the Allan, not the Oxford correct?

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinzabihi3768 - yes, but Allan prints and binds the Oxford Brevier Clarendon wide margin text.

  • @shellieperreault6262
    @shellieperreault6262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the wide margin Quentel. I didn't want the concordance to begin with, but since it had relatively few entries listed I figured no big deal, it probably won't add much to weight/size. When I got the Quentel I was surprised at how useless it was. Schuyler should have just left it out, or else given us more lined paper. As for me, the concordance will be used as more note paper in the back.
    My ribbons were crooked as well.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for commenting, Shellie! Yes, the concordance in my copy probably won't get much use. It could be that Schuyler's decision to include a concordance in a five-point font was driven by market research that indicates Bibles without concordances won't sell, but that no one uses them when they're included. Just a guess.

    • @shellieperreault6262
      @shellieperreault6262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones Lol.

    • @joshuahoward7567
      @joshuahoward7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they just add it so when you get to the NT you still feel like you have a little meat left in your bible I would have loved it if they just exchanged it for notebook paper too or just left it out to make it thinner

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There doesn't need to be so much white space in their concordances. It's a design decision because all the Quentel's concordances are typeset like that. Reflow the text so it fills more of the page and they can easily increase font size without increasing page count.

  • @matthewhazelwood6520
    @matthewhazelwood6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve watched several of your videos now and my guess is that you favor the KJV/NKJV over some of the more modern translations such as NASB or ESV. Is my estimation correct? Enjoy your videos. 😊

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matthew - thanks for the kind comment! I think what you've written is broadly accurate, but that doesn't mean that I dislike the NASB (the 1977 edition, in particular, is very good) or the ESV. I tend to prefer translations in the Tyndale family, but I don't have a single favorite. When I'm listening to a sermon, I try to follow along in the speaker's translation. If I'm studying on my own, I often use a literal translation (e.g., KJV, NKJV, RV, ASV) alongside a more interpretive one. For devotional reading, I find myself using the KJV or the RSV most often.

    • @matthewhazelwood6520
      @matthewhazelwood6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones Thanks for getting back to me and providing a kind and thorough response. Every so often I brush up on various translations and wish that I could be settled on just one, but I typically gravitate towards the NASB, ESV, and NKJV. To probe slightly, if you had to pick one of those 3, which would be your most solid recommendation? Also, what inspires you to prefer the 77 over the 95 NASB? I love NASB for its more literal nature, but hate the way it sounds and feels in the mouth for the more poetic passage.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewhazelwood6520 - your second question is easier for me to answer. The '77 NASB was more careful to place literal renderings in the text or in the annotations, but the '95 edition adjusted the text to make it more readable without adding annotations. (See Rev 13.1 as an example.) I agree that the NASB is clunky at times. In particular, as I mention in the NASB vs ESV video, I dislike the way it translates the Greek imperfect tense, and I wish it had retained the historic present, like the KJV.
      Backing up to the first question, I would give a very slight edge to the ESV. The selection chart at the end of the NKJV vs ESV video will give you my sense of how those two translations stack up over a range of factors. I believe that if I were to draw a similar chart comparing the ESV to the NASB, the ESV would come out ahead there as well.

    • @matthewhazelwood6520
      @matthewhazelwood6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones Thanks for the thorough information. I had suspected the edge to go to NKJV from that particular video; glad to have honest reviewers around such as yourself. I’ll subscribe to your channel! Thanks for your help!

  • @panokostouros7609
    @panokostouros7609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only Schuyler published a comparable KJV with Apocrypha.....

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be fantastic! Unfortunately, Schuyler is a business, and I suspect their instincts tell them that such a Bible wouldn't sell.

    • @panokostouros7609
      @panokostouros7609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones Indeed. It's good that Cambridge still publishes them.

    • @carltonpoindexter2034
      @carltonpoindexter2034 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@panokostouros7609 Yes!

  • @RoastBeefSandwich
    @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schuyler Bibles seem to sell very well, but they're just not for me. I don't understand why they even bother printing concordances that small.
    Incidentally I'd love to see you review the Cambridge wide margin Concord. All the reviews are overwhelmingly positive, but they are for most Schuyler Bibles too - you're one of the few who actually offers criticism for Bibles (you are the only reviewer I've seen that mentioned the print uniformity issues with the standard Concord for example). Maybe because you actually pay for them? I don't know.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for commenting, RoastBeefSandwich! I too wonder why faded print doesn't bother other people. But we're all wired differently, so it may be that they just don't notice it. (My camera didn't notice it a couple of times in this video when it was obvious to my eyes!) Not enough bits in their analog-to-digital converters, maybe.
      I certainly like this Schuyler Bible more than my Canterbury, because I think I can use it. But the high-end Bible I'm most pleased with is the Allan 62R, because of that bold font.
      I've thought about doing a comparison video of the Concord Wide Margin and the Allan 5WR. But I'm not very motivated to acquire the Concord WM because of the small font and the price.

    • @marcusallynknight
      @marcusallynknight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve appreciated your reviews on both translation and bibles. I’m curious to know which translation you use the most and why. I know you appreciate the older translations but I haven’t been able to grasp where you stand on English translations. Thank you for the solid reviews.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones It does look like they've tweaked the font for this wide margin layout. Maybe moved to a semibold Milo, or perhaps the font just has more weight when it's printed a bit smaller. Either way it does look like an improvement.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcusallynknight - Thanks for taking the time to comment! I'm not sure which translation I use the most these days. I spend a lot of time during the week reading whatever edition I intend to review the coming weekend. When I listen to a sermon or Bible study, I usually know what translation the preacher/teacher is using and follow along in that -- which means I read the ESV, NAS, NKJV, and KJV quite often. When I study the New Testament by myself, I usually choose two translations, one literal and one less so, along with UBS5. The literal translation could be the 1885 Revised Version, the KJV, the ASV, the NAS (usually the '77), the NKJV, or the ESV. The less literal translation could be the NRSV, the NEB, or the Jerusalem Bible. The Old Testament situation is similar, but I also consult the NETS or the Lexham English Septuagint and sometimes the Greek via Rahlfs' Septuagint (which takes the place of UBS5).

  • @panokostouros7609
    @panokostouros7609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. Jones, I know you might be averse to this, but were you to set up a Patreon or PayPal we'd gladly donate to help you pay for these exquisite Bibles!

  • @peterwycka7222
    @peterwycka7222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh, it looks really nice but I'm not sure it is some thing I would buy.

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now that I've bought it, I'm not sure it's something I should have bought! Thanks for the view and comment, Peter!

    • @scotte2213
      @scotte2213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones seriously though, do you have regrets about this edition. I'm bent between this or a crossway topgrain reference with wide margins

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotte2213 - yes. I wish I hadn't bought it. For me, the darkness of the print is very important: I'm disappointed with the typeface in this Bible. Otherwise, it's a great Bible.

    • @scotte2213
      @scotte2213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGrantJones I sent you an email regarding this Bible and donating to your channel

    • @RGrantJones
      @RGrantJones  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotte2213 - thanks for letting me know. I'll try to respond soon -- busy week.

  • @sandygrogg1203
    @sandygrogg1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio is too low.