Nice analysis. Tx. Looking forward to more like it And I agree that starlab with contributors from USA, Canada, Europa and Japan might have an edge there as they might be more likely to get contracts from other space agencies
Star Lab is so far behind. Officially 2028, more like 2032. Vast is on track to send a prototype up at the end of this year. Also Vast has deals with Redwire and Yuri.
NASA is a customer. If a commercial vendor is to be competitive they should offer a range of products for all their customers. I'm sure academic and pharma customers as well as material research and other manufacturing industries can benefit from these stations to the tune of a lot more than sharing 1.5B of NASA money. If they offer a facility that NASA can benefit from, I'm sure they will be employed.
They are the overwhelmingly biggest customer but certainly not the only ones. Besides Csa, Esa and Jaxa, we had tourists and national astronauts (Italy, Hungary, Poland I think) visiting the ISS or LEO.
I'm dubious academic customers will participate. For one astronaut for 6 months you could fund e.g. one New Horizon or JUICE which seems like a far more compelling science return.
This is all half baked stuff. We want a large ring like in 2001 and even envisioned by v. Braun in the 50s! I guess if US, EU and Japan get over their egos its easily doable.
One needs to start small. The market for private space tourism, research and manufacturing is just starting. Only once the market had their initial trials, it can grow further to in some future support such a project
Funnily enough, the single worst thing you could add to a space station like this is artificial gravity. The entire reason to have a space station in LEO is to have a large habitable volume of zero-g conditions. If you remove the zero g then it defeats the entire point
@@notgreg123 point taken but it should be easy enough to have a zero g environment in the central hub. but the normal tourist will appreciate to have some sense of up and down for longer stays, and I mean a week, not a year. He can always visit the central hub and swim in zero g if needed.
@@gkossatzgmxdeyou gonna need to build that space station far away from Earth, which will require more expensive spacecrafts. Otherwise your space station will crash onto Earth before it's finished.
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Nice analysis. Tx. Looking forward to more like it
And I agree that starlab with contributors from USA, Canada, Europa and Japan might have an edge there as they might be more likely to get contracts from other space agencies
Star Lab is so far behind. Officially 2028, more like 2032. Vast is on track to send a prototype up at the end of this year. Also Vast has deals with Redwire and Yuri.
2028 for Starlab sounds reasonable to me. Vast's offering is tiny and probably not going to attract much NASA participation.
NASA is a customer. If a commercial vendor is to be competitive they should offer a range of products for all their customers. I'm sure academic and pharma customers as well as material research and other manufacturing industries can benefit from these stations to the tune of a lot more than sharing 1.5B of NASA money. If they offer a facility that NASA can benefit from, I'm sure they will be employed.
The problem is that NASA is the only customer in this market with lot of vendors...
They are the overwhelmingly biggest customer but certainly not the only ones. Besides Csa, Esa and Jaxa, we had tourists and national astronauts (Italy, Hungary, Poland I think) visiting the ISS or LEO.
I'm dubious academic customers will participate. For one astronaut for 6 months you could fund e.g. one New Horizon or JUICE which seems like a far more compelling science return.
Russia has already recommitted to ISS partnership until it comes down in 2030.
This is all half baked stuff. We want a large ring like in 2001 and even envisioned by v. Braun in the 50s! I guess if US, EU and Japan get over their egos its easily doable.
One needs to start small. The market for private space tourism, research and manufacturing is just starting. Only once the market had their initial trials, it can grow further to in some future support such a project
Funnily enough, the single worst thing you could add to a space station like this is artificial gravity. The entire reason to have a space station in LEO is to have a large habitable volume of zero-g conditions. If you remove the zero g then it defeats the entire point
@@notgreg123 point taken but it should be easy enough to have a zero g environment in the central hub. but the normal tourist will appreciate to have some sense of up and down for longer stays, and I mean a week, not a year. He can always visit the central hub and swim in zero g if needed.
@@gkossatzgmxde yeah that's true
@@gkossatzgmxdeyou gonna need to build that space station far away from Earth, which will require more expensive spacecrafts. Otherwise your space station will crash onto Earth before it's finished.