Would you consider running the clear tubing high outside by the drivers door for the 5 liter fill and then for the drain ( at 35c and level) using the tubing to drain into a pan low near DS rear wheel?
@@michaelgiovanniello3230 - unfortunately, a lot of newer european cars don't have transmission (or even engine oil) dipsticks. My customer's 2012 Range Rover has a complex, touchy and counterintuitive multistep process to check the motor oil level using the onboard display. No engine or trans dipstick. It's dumb and time consuming.
Approximately 3.4 to 3.5 liters were removed Of dirty oil and 3.5 were emptied then it was allowed to drain at working temperature approx 35 to 40 c like 300 to 400 ML leaving an approx of 3.1 liters inside the tank and still not reaching the drip when draining the screw was tightened leaving approx 3.1 lts, si the cuestión is i have to add the oil newly and to try of complete the oil quantity for to complet the 3.5 lts that i recovered of dirty oil?
Hello Juan, Yes the ATF fluid level should be checked with the engine at idle. We also include instructions in our transmission fluid and filter change kits that goes in depth with this procedure.
The engine have to be on but, the transmission what is the shift that I have to select? P, R, N, D o S?. For now I just want to check the level, if I need to refill or change I will be buying the kit from you. Thanks,
Hello Juan, To check the level you need to have the vehicle (1) at an elevated level, (2) gear selected in park, (3) engine at idle and warm engine and transmission, (4) when the transmission temperature reaches between 35c-45c a small amount of atf will drip from the drain/fill plug. This is the correct fluid level. If no atf drips from the fill/drain plug between 35c-45c the atf level is low. We hope this helps!
I have a 2007 VW JETTA 2.5, and I recently took it in to a reputable VW service center and I was advised that my can has a lifetime transmission fluid. Reason for interest in changing fluid is I get some hard shifts from 1st to 2nd and vice versa when down shifting. It is an automatic transmission FYI. Would this method work to change my fluid on my car?
Hello Edward, The subject of lifetime transmission fluid is a challenging topic of debate for many. To answer your first question on the reputable VW service center advising that car has lifetime transmission fluid. When the 2007 Jetta 2.5L was first introduced, it was released with a lifetime transmission fluid. However later in 2009, the transmission fluid service interval for the Jetta 2.5L with the same transmission was updated by Volkswagen to every 50,000 miles. Any service center that still abides by the lifetime transmission fluid would be incorrect and should be questioned as to their true knowledge and ability to service your model. We have serviced many of these transmissions and the fluid is very dirty and contaminated by 50,000-60,000 miles. Your shifting problems could be due to aged fluid which also can cause incorrect evaporated fluid levels. For more information visit our website under VW Repair & Maintenance. Or feel free to call our customer service department and one of our sales members would be happy to help you.
Hi Bernard, Yes it is an alternative way to read the transmission fluid temperature, typically it is within 1 - 2 degrees of the actual temperature. Of course, the most accurate way to get the transmission fluid temperature is by using the appropriate tool as we state in the instructions included with our A/T Filter Kits for this model.
i have a small slip in 3rd, you feel the car engage third the revs come down at same time then you feel a second lunge and the revs go up for half a sec, feels like it reengages 3rd. ive changed fluid, not flushed. fluid ok now before it was a little dark and short about 1.5 quarts (im guessing previous owner did not change correctly) so any ideas on shift issue? expensive?
currently looking at a 2007 2.5 and want to know what im in for. not liking the tanny fluid change complication or even the air filter change! German over engineering strikes again! My 2000 BMW with a ZF tranny, same thing. no dipstick. It does have a drain plug on the side, and a fill plug on the bottom (very counter intuitive) it has the equivalent of the fill port but is a molded in part of the pan. Similar way to fill having to know the temp also but don't need a special adapter. just send a tube up the hole and fill until it starts to drain back out. And it's guesswork on the temp of the fluid on my part. What i dont' understand with this if the adapter is actually screwed in how do we know it's full? it can't overflow back out.
Jeff Flowers yep, German engineers design them this way so that you could lease them for 3 years or so, and then turn it in for another newer German car designed even more complicated. Long story short.... BMW dealer: We design the ultimate “driving machines.” ....tell you what, don’t worry about the maintenance on this car, leave that complicated jazz to us. Just lease it from us, drive the cajones out of it, and in 3 years, bring ‘er back to us. Well fix it, resell it, and bill you the wear and tear or any small damages, after you turn her in. Oh..... don’t ignore the service reminders or the check engine lights on the dash, when they come on, bring it so we’ll do the maintenance and service.... it’s on us during the first 24k miles, the next 12k miles are yours though. Good luck, and enjoy your....ah um....Ahem. I mean our new car Champ.
Just easier to do a complete drain and refill by taking the pan off and either marking the level of fluid on the inside wall or pouring it into something to measure the outgoing amount. Then fill the pan with the amount taken out and if you can balance it or place it on a floor jack with a wide piece of wood as a base, raise it back in place and screw bolts into four corners on just enough to hold it in place. Or you can put bolts in three corners so there's a gap, drop a long hose through the gap and fill it from the engine bay with a funnel. That way you can clean the pan, magnet, and replace the gasket and filter. If you use the kit with the filter you have to remove the pan anyway. Sounds like work, but so does this method, yet with less uncertainty and goofiness. I have VCDS and I still don't want to do it like in the video. Why are all these car manufacturers doing stupid anti-consumer/technician crap like removing dipsticks, omitting top located fill holes, and no engine block drains for complete coolant removal???? Even VW/Audi techs don't like working on these.
A tip for VAG owners - buy an OBDII SCANNER & learn how to fix your own car. That will save you thousands, literally. My car was in limpmode when my oil level sensor wiring snapped and shorted, and blew a fuse. I reset the car at the terminals and drove to get an OBDII scanner. I put tape on the sensor wiring and cleared the codes properly. You don't actually need the oil level sensor if you have a dipstick.
The first repair I needed on my 2008 Audi after buying it would have cost me a couple grand. I spent about $360 on a Ross-Tech VCDS and fixed the issue myself. VCDS paid for itself in the first use👍🏽
Hey folks. Nice Video you made. I need. Do you have a shop etc. I can order the fill plug in Germany or do you ship to Germany. That transmission is pretty exotic over here, as at that time Diesel engines already used DSG and the 09G was mostly used for N/A engines, where people tend to stick to stick shift.
Couldn't i just drain it and refill close to what came out, and as long as I limited myself to the amount of whatever the capacity is I couldn't overfill right?
I use the Blauparts trans fill kit and it usually ships with I think 5 liters of Ravenol for the Jetta 6 spd tiptronic. My Bentley manual says after draining, start by adding 3 liters at first, then idle the car till the transmission reaches correct temp range and check the level at that point. You're supposed to add more if necessary then check again till the fluid drips from the fill/drain port at the correct rate.
The splash plate is not held on by torx screws. It’s held on by four bolts, 13 mm on the front and 18 mm on the back. The torx screws hold the rubber splash shields on the sides to the plate
Here is some info that saved me a lot of money. I drive a 2013 2.5l Jetta SE in san fransisco (very hard city driving) I've been running valvoline maxlife dex/merc (red jug) for 100k with no issues, the spec sheets were similar and the forums liked it instead of pension for the price. I bought my vw used from the dealer and transmission oil was burnt even though it was "lifetime fluid" the diy way you will need to remove the drain plug and level plug (5mm socket drive and 4mm metric allen keys) measured atf drain,REPLACE BOTH PLUGS, then filling the same amount through a 1'' sensor port on front of transmission (held on by hardware and o-rings), START CAR(quickly) , shift each gear 3 sec(quickly) , remove outer drain plug(quickly), leaving leveling plug, check the level by using a IR temp gun until 35C shows up on the gun, scanning multiple points on the trans pan. then quickly put bolt in. (oil should just start to dribble out of drain plugs at 35C. 35C comes up fast. on a drain and fill i get 3 qts out, good luck
Engize i have a 2006 Jetta 2.5 and is shifting very hard in the first gears i really need help fixing it some more guidance would be good thank you so much
Alot simpler way to put it is to measure how much fluid comes out and just put the same amount in..... forget about all the temp checking and stuff. Simple 1:Drain 2:measur how much was emptied 3: Fill with same amount. 4:done Unless your transmission has a leak, as long as you put the same amount in your golden don't worry about the temp thing.
However if you want to know exactly how much ATF is in the system, you have to use the temp method, but again if no leak, you should be fine to put same amount in as ATF does just disappear or evaporate
The problem is with the engine cold you won't get as much fluid out, and if it's hot when you drain it the fluid going in must be the same temperature as the hot fluid coming out or else you'll put in the wrong amount due to fluid expansion.
No wonder ppl think they can't work on their vehicles. Drain the tranny, flush and refill to spec capacity. Yeesh. If you want a challenge though go on, check the level lol
Wouldn't it be best to just drain all the oil and pour new oil in? Well, I guess not since not warming it up properly probably wouldn't drain all of the oil anyways. Germans and auto industry trying to make things complicated so people who buy cars are forced to go to the auto shop.
It's not that difficult first of all you pour the oil and the container after you hooked it up to the plug, the drain plug hook your hose in. You cannot over feel it. It will not allow you to pull it out when you've got it filled. It'll just stop taking the oil in the transmission oil and put your plug in and that's all there is to it. Good luck guys! Oh yeah I'm in my 70s female if I can do it so can you good luck guys!
Geez literally the only video I found that explains in detail of where transmission is full. Thanks for that and diagram helps a ton. 👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯
Wow. Im just gonna admit defeat and take it to the shop.You lost me on temperature checks
Problem is unless it’s a VW shop or German Auto shop they’ll be just as lost as the average home mechanic .. so probably just the same
HB4 this saved me!!! I was lost without it. ;)
Would you consider running the clear tubing high outside by the drivers door for the 5 liter fill and then for the drain ( at 35c and level) using the tubing to drain into a pan low near DS rear wheel?
they couldn't have made it more complicated
You got that right brother! Yeah, sure, I got a lift.
Seriously. What dipstick didn't put a dipstick on these things?
@@michaelgiovanniello3230 - unfortunately, a lot of newer european cars don't have transmission (or even engine oil) dipsticks. My customer's 2012 Range Rover has a complex, touchy and counterintuitive multistep process to check the motor oil level using the onboard display. No engine or trans dipstick. It's dumb and time consuming.
RIGHT!? " LIFE TIME FLUID". Doubt that. I'm trying to change it since my 2012 jetta hit the 370km mark.
This is what happens when engineers build cars as opposed to mechanics or "car guys". Ease of maintenance is an after-thought
Approximately 3.4 to 3.5 liters were removed Of dirty oil and 3.5 were emptied then it was allowed to drain at working temperature approx 35 to 40 c like 300 to 400 ML leaving an approx of 3.1 liters inside the tank and still not reaching the drip when draining the screw was tightened leaving approx 3.1 lts, si the cuestión is i have to add the oil newly and to try of complete the oil quantity for to complet the 3.5 lts that i recovered of dirty oil?
And this is why I prefer older cars 🤦
Dose it need to be running once you get to temp
How much oil does the 2007 Passat 2000 TFSI 6-speed automatic triptonic transmission take?
I saw the video, but It wasn't clear for me if I have to check the transmission fluid level with the engine on?.
Hello Juan,
Yes the ATF fluid level should be checked with the engine at idle. We also include instructions in our transmission fluid and filter change kits that goes in depth with this procedure.
The engine have to be on but, the transmission what is the shift that I have to select? P, R, N, D o S?. For now I just want to check the level, if I need to refill or change I will be buying the kit from you.
Thanks,
Hello Juan,
To check the level you need to have the vehicle (1) at an elevated level, (2) gear selected in park, (3) engine at idle and warm engine and transmission, (4) when the transmission temperature reaches between 35c-45c a small amount of atf will drip from the drain/fill plug. This is the correct fluid level. If no atf drips from the fill/drain plug between 35c-45c the atf level is low. We hope this helps!
I have a 2007 VW JETTA 2.5, and I recently took it in to a reputable VW service center and I was advised that my can has a lifetime transmission fluid. Reason for interest in changing fluid is I get some hard shifts from 1st to 2nd and vice versa when down shifting. It is an automatic transmission FYI. Would this method work to change my fluid on my car?
Hello Edward,
The subject of lifetime transmission fluid is a challenging topic of debate for many. To answer your first question on the reputable VW service center advising that car has lifetime transmission fluid. When the 2007 Jetta 2.5L was first introduced, it was released with a lifetime transmission fluid. However later in 2009, the transmission fluid service interval for the Jetta 2.5L with the same transmission was updated by Volkswagen to every 50,000 miles. Any service center that still abides by the lifetime transmission fluid would be incorrect and should be questioned as to their true knowledge and ability to service your model. We have serviced many of these transmissions and the fluid is very dirty and contaminated by 50,000-60,000 miles. Your shifting problems could be due to aged fluid which also can cause incorrect evaporated fluid levels. For more information visit our website under VW Repair & Maintenance. Or feel free to call our customer service department and one of our sales members would be happy to help you.
Can I measure the Transmission Temp with a Laser Thermometer?
Hi Bernard,
Yes it is an alternative way to read the transmission fluid temperature, typically it is within 1 - 2 degrees of the actual temperature. Of course, the most accurate way to get the transmission fluid temperature is by using the appropriate tool as we state in the instructions included with our A/T Filter Kits for this model.
@@blauparts dose it need to be running once it reaches temp
If you are already a mechanic, you probably dont need to watch this video. Everyone else needs a tutor for this tutorial.
What’s that red hose that you have connected to the plug?
what size is the filler adapter?
Also, is the fill tube kit the same for the kgl?
i have a small slip in 3rd, you feel the car engage third the revs come down at same time then you feel a second lunge and the revs go up for half a sec, feels like it reengages 3rd. ive changed fluid, not flushed. fluid ok now before it was a little dark and short about 1.5 quarts (im guessing previous owner did not change correctly) so any ideas on shift issue? expensive?
🚩🚩HELP! I have a 2007 volkswagen jetta. My transmission only hits from 1st to 2nd! No check engine light. What is it?
currently looking at a 2007 2.5 and want to know what im in for. not liking the tanny fluid change complication or even the air filter change! German over engineering strikes again!
My 2000 BMW with a ZF tranny, same thing. no dipstick. It does have a drain plug on the side, and a fill plug on the bottom (very counter intuitive) it has the equivalent of the fill port but is a molded in part of the pan. Similar way to fill having to know the temp also but don't need a special adapter. just send a tube up the hole and fill until it starts to drain back out. And it's guesswork on the temp of the fluid on my part. What i dont' understand with this if the adapter is actually screwed in how do we know it's full? it can't overflow back out.
Jeff Flowers yep, German engineers design them this way so that you could lease them for 3 years or so, and then turn it in for another newer German car designed even more complicated. Long story short....
BMW dealer: We design the ultimate “driving machines.” ....tell you what, don’t worry about the maintenance on this car, leave that complicated jazz to us. Just lease it from us, drive the cajones out of it, and in 3 years, bring ‘er back to us. Well fix it, resell it, and bill you the wear and tear or any small damages, after you turn her in. Oh..... don’t ignore the service reminders or the check engine lights on the dash, when they come on, bring it so we’ll do the maintenance and service.... it’s on us during the first 24k miles, the next 12k miles are yours though. Good luck, and enjoy your....ah um....Ahem. I mean our new car Champ.
60k miles, should i change?
ATF vi is not better ?
What will happen if you overcharged the ATF?
Just easier to do a complete drain and refill by taking the pan off and either marking the level of fluid on the inside wall or pouring it into something to measure the outgoing amount. Then fill the pan with the amount taken out and if you can balance it or place it on a floor jack with a wide piece of wood as a base, raise it back in place and screw bolts into four corners on just enough to hold it in place. Or you can put bolts in three corners so there's a gap, drop a long hose through the gap and fill it from the engine bay with a funnel. That way you can clean the pan, magnet, and replace the gasket and filter. If you use the kit with the filter you have to remove the pan anyway. Sounds like work, but so does this method, yet with less uncertainty and goofiness. I have VCDS and I still don't want to do it like in the video. Why are all these car manufacturers doing stupid anti-consumer/technician crap like removing dipsticks, omitting top located fill holes, and no engine block drains for complete coolant removal???? Even VW/Audi techs don't like working on these.
Is this the same on a 2010 KGL transmission? 6 speed auto with tiptronic ( not dsg)
how much oil be be filled?
A tip for VAG owners - buy an OBDII SCANNER & learn how to fix your own car. That will save you thousands, literally.
My car was in limpmode when my oil level sensor wiring snapped and shorted, and blew a fuse. I reset the car at the terminals and drove to get an OBDII scanner. I put tape on the sensor wiring and cleared the codes properly. You don't actually need the oil level sensor if you have a dipstick.
The first repair I needed on my 2008 Audi after buying it would have cost me a couple grand. I spent about $360 on a Ross-Tech VCDS and fixed the issue myself. VCDS paid for itself in the first use👍🏽
Wouldn't buy an older car without a dipstick on the trans.
Hey folks. Nice Video you made. I need. Do you have a shop etc. I can order the fill plug in Germany or do you ship to Germany. That transmission is pretty exotic over here, as at that time Diesel engines already used DSG and the 09G was mostly used for N/A engines, where people tend to stick to stick shift.
Couldn't i just drain it and refill close to what came out, and as long as I limited myself to the amount of whatever the capacity is I couldn't overfill right?
Can you specify the temperature range one more time?
And thank goodness you mentioned taking it off the lift when done!
Thanks for info☺😊
Can I just drain 10q and pump in 10q? I’m at 94k miles and I need it to run forever.
its 5 or 6 litres for change the transmission fluid?
not a good idea because if you have a leak you will be putting in less
I use the Blauparts trans fill kit and it usually ships with I think 5 liters of Ravenol for the Jetta 6 spd tiptronic. My Bentley manual says after draining, start by adding 3 liters at first, then idle the car till the transmission reaches correct temp range and check the level at that point. You're supposed to add more if necessary then check again till the fluid drips from the fill/drain port at the correct rate.
The splash plate is not held on by torx screws. It’s held on by four bolts, 13 mm on the front and 18 mm on the back. The torx screws hold the rubber splash shields on the sides to the plate
Here is some info that saved me a lot of money. I drive a 2013 2.5l Jetta SE in san fransisco (very hard city driving)
I've been running valvoline maxlife dex/merc (red jug) for 100k with no issues, the spec sheets were similar and the forums liked it instead of pension for the price. I bought my vw used from the dealer and transmission oil was burnt even though it was "lifetime fluid"
the diy way
you will need to remove the drain plug and level plug (5mm socket drive and 4mm metric allen keys)
measured atf drain,REPLACE BOTH PLUGS, then filling the same amount through a 1'' sensor port on front of transmission (held on by hardware and o-rings), START CAR(quickly) , shift each gear 3 sec(quickly) , remove outer drain plug(quickly), leaving leveling plug, check the level by using a IR temp gun until 35C shows up on the gun, scanning multiple points on the trans pan. then quickly put bolt in. (oil should just start to dribble out of drain plugs at 35C.
35C comes up fast. on a drain and fill i get 3 qts out, good luck
Engize do you know any place i can take for that oil change i live very close to San Francisco! Thanks
Engize i have a 2006 Jetta 2.5 and is shifting very hard in the first gears i really need help fixing it some more guidance would be good thank you so much
@@tya4everrr valve body...if you haven't already replaced it!
Engize how long does the car need to run to reach 35 degrees?
@Brutus4164 i thinks its like 5 mins to 10 mins. Not very long.
Alot simpler way to put it is to measure how much fluid comes out and just put the same amount in..... forget about all the temp checking and stuff.
Simple
1:Drain
2:measur how much was emptied
3: Fill with same amount.
4:done
Unless your transmission has a leak, as long as you put the same amount in your golden don't worry about the temp thing.
However if you want to know exactly how much ATF is in the system, you have to use the temp method, but again if no leak, you should be fine to put same amount in as ATF does just disappear or evaporate
The problem is with the engine cold you won't get as much fluid out, and if it's hot when you drain it the fluid going in must be the same temperature as the hot fluid coming out or else you'll put in the wrong amount due to fluid expansion.
No wonder ppl think they can't work on their vehicles. Drain the tranny, flush and refill to spec capacity. Yeesh. If you want a challenge though go on, check the level lol
your method assumes all the fluid will drain out. Not always the case.
Wouldn't it be best to just drain all the oil and pour new oil in? Well, I guess not since not warming it up properly probably wouldn't drain all of the oil anyways. Germans and auto industry trying to make things complicated so people who buy cars are forced to go to the auto shop.
It's not that difficult first of all you pour the oil and the container after you hooked it up to the plug, the drain plug hook your hose in. You cannot over feel it. It will not allow you to pull it out when you've got it filled. It'll just stop taking the oil in the transmission oil and put your plug in and that's all there is to it. Good luck guys! Oh yeah I'm in my 70s female if I can do it so can you good luck guys!
thank you for the video
So you have to elevate the vehicle AND keep it level ! Sounds like you need a proper hydraulic lift.
Time to sale my 2001 jetta
😂
I regret buying a jetta
I've bought a Jetta and BMW. Never again
Japan cars easier with a dipstick.
The VW-9g is a japanese transmission made by Aisin (30% owned by Toyota)
@@jsb257 Also used in Toyota and Mazda's as well might I add lol
this is why I would never buy a Jetta
God I hate this car.
Remind me not to buy a Volkswagen Jetta
Speak up buttercup!
These transmissions suck