THE TOOZ | John Matuszak | Raiders History

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  • My tribute to one of the wildest and craziest players of all time. After wearing out his welcome with 3 other teams, he joins the Oakland Radiers as his 4th team in 4 years. Injuries forced the Raiders to switch to a 3-4 defense and having the 6-8, 300lb Matuszak allowed for this switch in 1976. Starting DE in Superbowl XI and XV.
    Far too many crazy stories to list them all. He played hard but partied harder. When he OD'd in KC, the Coach drove him to the hospital and pounded on his chest to revive him. He got in an altercation with Matt Millen on the team plane, fighting Terry Robiskie for no real reason, reporters loved him because he spoke the truth, massive drug and alcohol problems, DWI's, shooting guns at stop signs, picking up women two at a time in bars, you name it.
    He reminds me a lot of Jim Morrison of the Doors. I think if Jim Morrison was a football player, he would be John Matuszak just based on their mannerisms and their ability to surround themeselves with people too afraid to say "no" to them or enable them to keep doing wrong.
    For more great Matuszak moments check out Ken Stablers Autobiogrophy with a chapter dedicated to the 1979 season when he was roommates with the Tooz called "keeper of the tooz." Also, Matuszak's autobiogrophy "Crusin' with the Tooz."
    Also, it wasn't easy to find footage so sorry for the quality of some of this but you can't win them all.
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    Soul Patrol
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    Jack Tatum
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    George Atkinson
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    "Dr. Death" Skip Thomas
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    Otis Sistrunk
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    Lyle Alzado
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    "the mad bomber" Daryle Lamonica
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  • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
    @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

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    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you on this, I LIKED and commented.

  • @randyhanson4973
    @randyhanson4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The Raiders saved his career and the Tooz responded by becoming a major force in helping the Raiders win Super Bowl XI and XV.

  • @MeridiusBell
    @MeridiusBell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I remember watching him play, he was absolutely an excellent player. Was the Golden years of NFL, when football was real football. Also was great in North Dallas Forty.

    • @TheLeftHandOfGod
      @TheLeftHandOfGod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Born in '65, grew up watching real football in the 70's / 'early' 80's. Miss those days! Can't tolerate this modern crap. Loved the Raiders and Bears. I actually got an autographed picture from Dick Butkus when he still played. I still have that picture hanging on the wall to this very day!

  • @MARKWILLIAMS-tm4rf
    @MARKWILLIAMS-tm4rf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Met this cat in 1981in Oakland Hills, I am 6'4" and when he answered the door at 9am, I am certainly glad he was in a good mood!

  • @JayDogTitan-he6wo
    @JayDogTitan-he6wo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Tooz was one of those players nobody wanted and the Raiders won Super Bowls with, 2 to be exact, One of the strongest men to ever step on a football field, John Matuszak was a beast. I loved him in North Dallas Forty.

    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍❤, wished he stuck around when Alzado came. That point of him becoming somebody of the Raiders ====is that 'echoed' latest Raiders Reclamation Project that we were famous for ....and wished that bitch ass bandwagon ALL Madden documentary mentioned that of his his/our history.

  • @johnconnell4503
    @johnconnell4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow this guy was a beast

    • @JAWrightonline
      @JAWrightonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Raylan Bradley We don't give a rat's ass

  • @richardseaboyer924
    @richardseaboyer924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My all time favorite Raider

  • @charlesivey100
    @charlesivey100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brings back memories of the Raiders. I enjoyed John Madden’s book. He was literary the only coach who could lead a team of those men. From the Tooz, to Kick’Em Ted Hendrix, and on and on.

  • @yourroyalhighness7662
    @yourroyalhighness7662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Would have loved to see him playing alongside Big Ben Davidson. Two 6’8” crazy giants together.

    • @jasonsabourin2275
      @jasonsabourin2275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Stork was another #83 who could do the job.

    • @JAWrightonline
      @JAWrightonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would have loved to have seen him, Alzado, and Howie Long all at the same time in the lineup.

    • @joelgalvan8358
      @joelgalvan8358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone would have died during the game.

    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or he could had stayed around till Alzado came too

    • @randystolz
      @randystolz ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a whole football career's duration of difference in age between Tooz and Davidson

  • @mastersironmantarmstrong7148
    @mastersironmantarmstrong7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Matuzak, Alazado the man from Mars Otis Sistrunk, etc
    The old Raiders were just great!

    • @brianhale8537
      @brianhale8537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don’t forget kick ‘em in the head Ted

  • @jeffreynapisa331
    @jeffreynapisa331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I never knew that was Mastuzak that played in the goonies.....until many years later.

  • @pete6705
    @pete6705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn, must have been scary seeing this guy running after you

  • @jasonsabourin2275
    @jasonsabourin2275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Came on here after watching Matusak in "Caveman!" At 5am, and no, I am not snorting coke, wish I was then I'd have an excuse. Wow, thought this was bad in 81' when I was 9.

  • @Sameasevr
    @Sameasevr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great footage. Thanks

  • @cmaurice9133
    @cmaurice9133 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting. What a beast. Go raider nation.

  • @paulleach5841
    @paulleach5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1st i am Grateful this was my team as a kid!
    2nd Love that clip were Walter Payton looks as if he just ran into a brick wall that stops him dead and moves him backwards!
    3rd Maybe someday we will have a defensive team?

    • @jasonsabourin2275
      @jasonsabourin2275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I never saw that Payton hit, we only saw his highlights, he got stuffed.

    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will try to find that clip...

    • @josephmcquillen6840
      @josephmcquillen6840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The 1983 Raiders were one of the best defenses ever.

    • @paulleach5841
      @paulleach5841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephmcquillen6840 yeah the only had Long,Millen,Alzado,Davis,Hayes,McElroy, Hendricks and Martin

  • @latkagravas986
    @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great piece on him ---Thank You. There are more TH-cam insightful story clips of Raiders (glory years Raiders) than any other team (HATE that Millennial dufuss bandwagon generation)....GREAT to here how he put NOT just 2hrs at children hospital but hours at it....wished he stayed around when Alzado came ----Hollywood would had had a script some years later.

  • @captjim007
    @captjim007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tooz did it his way

  • @danmeyers2506
    @danmeyers2506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I met big jon at a summer camp for burned children when I was 8 years old. All the other kids knew him from the goonies. I hadn't even seen the movie. I knew him because I am a huge Raiders fan. He got a kick out of it because I was the only one who wanted to talk about football and how I was going to play for the Raiders just like him. He was great and he posed flexing with 3 kids hanging from each arm.

  • @kevindouglas5333
    @kevindouglas5333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Every time I call it a business you call it a game. Every time I call it a game you call it a business

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That line was very underrated and somehow got burried in the present when it is more relevant than ever.

  • @mickkimmings6186
    @mickkimmings6186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude is a genius

  • @frankdenardo8684
    @frankdenardo8684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John Matuszak was a class act. Led the Raiders to two Super Bowl 🏈 appearances. He retired after the strike shortened 1982 season and got into acting and personal appearances. He appeared in North Dallas 40 as a football player, and the movie was an exposé on the seamy side of professional football. Sadly, he passed away at the age of 37.

  • @randyhanson4973
    @randyhanson4973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tooz was the 1st player selected in the 1972 or 73 Draft. 1980 was his finest season and he should have been selected to the Pro Bowl

  • @tucksullivan7639
    @tucksullivan7639 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There was only one Tooz! Miss the old Oakland Raiders and their brand of football!

  • @x42b
    @x42b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suggest that the Tooze fans watch the movie Ice Pirates because he had a great role in that movie and it's a great comedy too. A true 80's classic

    • @omni-man4624
      @omni-man4624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And North Dallas Forty....And Caveman...

  • @jackdavis8596
    @jackdavis8596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a great episode of "Hunter" (maybe 1986) where he fights Fred Dryer who's a mere 6'6".

    • @KevinBarry-j8w
      @KevinBarry-j8w ปีที่แล้ว

      And Dryer played for the Giants and Rams too

  • @jeffeverett274
    @jeffeverett274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We love you John! Rip.🙏

  • @tylersparkman2672
    @tylersparkman2672 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need dudes like tooz tv ratings go up I loved tv interviews rip big man

  • @frankbarron1907
    @frankbarron1907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s O.W. Shaddock.

  • @negan-lucille7270
    @negan-lucille7270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Raiders never say die 🏛☠🖤🎴

  • @airborne8580
    @airborne8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He was the only guy I've ever seen stop Earl Campbell cold in his tracks coming out the backfield
    Smdh

    • @charlieyellowstone8248
      @charlieyellowstone8248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joe Greene did too

    • @captjim007
      @captjim007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jack Tatum" The Assassin " did too

    • @airborne8580
      @airborne8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@captjim007
      Of course what the f***

    • @captjim007
      @captjim007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@airborne8580 Define "Of course what the f***"

    • @airborne8580
      @airborne8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@captjim007
      GOOGLE IT
      LMMFAO 🤣😅

  • @randyhanson4973
    @randyhanson4973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember #90 Willie Jones & 86 Cedrick Hardman? The Raiders desperately need 2 more pass rush specialist like them. Al Davis once told us in a 2007 draft meeting that in order to win the Super Bowl you must have at least one Elite Pass Rusher and the ability to consistently pressure the QB with your Base Def 4 man rush. Ironically the two teams that led the NFL in sacks this year are both hosting the Conference Championship Games this weekend. Al Davis loved Charles Haley. He tried trading for him on multiple occasions.

  • @OklahomaCowboys22
    @OklahomaCowboys22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🏴‍☠️RAAIDERS🏴‍☠️

  • @michellenielsen8112
    @michellenielsen8112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    dude this is why im #72 on my peewee team

    • @junkyarddon
      @junkyarddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cool

    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, 👍❤...should be a bigger NFL story, with all the pro-female in Football stories.

  • @ralphllivrah9551
    @ralphllivrah9551 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss football. They should change the name of. It’s disrespectful to the men that played real football.

  • @Bill-jc1fy
    @Bill-jc1fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kenny Stabler said that when Matuszak joined the Raiders, the 1st thing he asked Stabler was " do you know where I can buy a gun?"

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I read somewhere that his first day he did like a primal war scream as he ran onto the field and Madden looked discouraged and Ted Hendricks told Madden "what difference does one more make?"

    • @gdr205
      @gdr205 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos I heard it was Al Davis but whatever.

    • @omni-man4624
      @omni-man4624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And he drove up to the practice field ridding a motorcycle And wearing a Nazii helmet l!

  • @airborne8580
    @airborne8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Might I add you
    Not too many people can get ran over by a vehicle and still survive that's just how tough this guy was
    Ridiculous
    I guess this a man had two lives

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And that's what know of, imagine what we don't know, he probably lived 9 lives 😄

  • @airborne8580
    @airborne8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If he wasn't playing NFL football he would of fit in with the Hells Angels just fine

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There was a good story where the Hell's Angels beat up Phil Villapiano, and then Jack Tatum and Matuszak had to be talked out of going after the Hell's Angels by coaches and players. Not saying they would have won but still that was what you were playing against back then.

    • @joelgalvan8358
      @joelgalvan8358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or they would fit in with him.

    • @latkagravas986
      @latkagravas986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👍❤, 🤣...no shit Indeed!

    • @captjim007
      @captjim007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos If the Angels would not of had any weapons, Tooz and Tatum would have beat the crap out of them.

  • @coryferguson8234
    @coryferguson8234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John Matuzak OL Toolz was underrated 1 of most physical Defense linemen in the game him and Alzado would have made a mean pair also with Davidson, Sistrunk, Long , Townsend to name a few

  • @randyhanson4973
    @randyhanson4973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #93 Greg Townsend would be a great video. He should be in the HOF

  • @alfonsecoppola5938
    @alfonsecoppola5938 ปีที่แล้ว

    his book is a really good read

  • @gdr205
    @gdr205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the Tooz...And I might add not just a footballer but a good actor too!

  • @panama8009
    @panama8009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tooz also played for Chiefs before going to Raiders.

  • @fearthemunky1
    @fearthemunky1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Oilers drafted him #1 overall and then traded him after one season. Boy the league was different back then.

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He signed with the World Football League and was trying to play for the NFL and WFL at the same time so the Oilers just got fed up and traded him. Got Curley Cupp and a 1st round pick from the Chief's out of the deal so they made out pretty good considering. Back when the draft was a crap shoot and there were 17 rounds, no unrestricted free agency, def a different league.

    • @fearthemunky1
      @fearthemunky1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos What, did KC talk him out of the WFL? And how good was he exactly? He played before my time. Is he a legendary character and that's why we know about him? Or was he actually a top player? I envision him as a ham and egger with a wild personality.

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fearthemunky1 Just before my time as well but I think the NFL filed an injunction since he was under contract with the NFL. Might be the WFL found a loophole and tried it out. It was back when NFL players made far less on average vs today and upstart leagues would offer much bigger contracts to get name players.
      As a player, from what I can gather, hit or miss on the field but when fired up you still have to deal with an athletic and menacing 6'8" 280+ lb man. So more of a tease I guess but Al Davis loved size and speed and Intimidation so he was a perfect "Raider."

    • @EarlSkakel
      @EarlSkakel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fearthemunky1 I’m a Steeler guy but he was my fav football player. In terms of how he will go down as a player I would say could have been an all time great based on skill but his excessive partying made him into a semi bust with a side of success. Not many offensive lineman and certainly not blocking running backs could handle him, I mean he was essentially a bigger version of Alzado.
      To me he was kind of like an 80’s Metal band that had their first album be a runaway hit, then started partying and with each album they got worse and worse. Just way too many nights partying as if he was a just even a little bit better about taking care of his massive frame he would have been unstoppable.

    • @charlieyellowstone8248
      @charlieyellowstone8248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos I remember those days. I miss those days, the league was so much better back then.

  • @Lojes_
    @Lojes_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know no one’s gonna believe this because anybody can say it, but John Matuszak Was my grandma‘s cousin which I think is pretty cool

  • @sportshistorybuff319
    @sportshistorybuff319 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's hard to reconcile all this praise of him on the field with the fact that he periodically beat people up, including one poor guy in a pickup basketball game. Roid and alcohol rage, probably, but still anti social behavior.

    • @omni-man4624
      @omni-man4624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, Young Lawrence Taylor did same.things..,

  • @markmiller3308
    @markmiller3308 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would’ve been awesome if him and Alzado were on the same Defense.

  • @1Tomrider
    @1Tomrider ปีที่แล้ว

    I've read that his injuries, especially his back, led to a lot of his drug abuse issues. His O.W. Shaddock character, along with his buddy Joe Bob Purdy, in North Dallas 40 might have been a decent composite of the real man!

  • @Benny.13
    @Benny.13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🇵🇱❤️💪🏻🍺 work hard play harder!RIP TOOZ

  • @robertbishop5357
    @robertbishop5357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently when he was at the University of Tampa he started fooling around with a certain wrestler's girlfriend. This particular wrestler took this quite badly and proceeded to clean his clock. That wrestler was Dick Slater a true tough guy.

  • @quentindehaan3010
    @quentindehaan3010 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet no one remembers where Ole John played his college ball....... Tampa Spartans!!

  • @brainliberius9530
    @brainliberius9530 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'mon he's a nice guy, he held that guys helmet for him, like a true gentleman at the 1:30

  • @freedomfromreligion1701
    @freedomfromreligion1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Tooz got a pinky on you ,you had a bad day.

  • @matthewlawrence708
    @matthewlawrence708 ปีที่แล้ว

    We would dominate with a defensive like that

  • @Moose46316
    @Moose46316 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is when men played football

  • @KevinBarry-j8w
    @KevinBarry-j8w ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch the movie Caveman with John Matuszak and Ringo Starr,etc😂

  • @jasonstewart5649
    @jasonstewart5649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Lar the caveman!

  • @chopperdeath
    @chopperdeath 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was an asshole, but you can't argue with the fact he could kill you easily. He was the reason guns were invented.

  • @jeffeverett274
    @jeffeverett274 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss the tooz. A manster.😆

  • @IdeasExchange1
    @IdeasExchange1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have been a good video without the bloody music!

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a mute button

    • @IdeasExchange1
      @IdeasExchange1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      Quite right Uncle Jake. There is a mute button but then I would be watching a silent movie.
      With the greatest of respect I would suggest that you are missing a wonderful opportunity to overlay the movie with some salient points about the rather remarkable John Matuszak.
      You wrote an excellent minibiography that would make a brilliant voice overlay.
      I know that I am just an old fart but it does seem to me that music has its place and time. It 's just that I think that sports videos are not that place.
      Thank you for taking the time and effort to post content about these fading memories.
      I wish you only the best and am sorry that my original response was so curt and dismissive.
      Respectfully
      Robert

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeasExchange1 that and when I made it like 10 plus years ago was back when TH-cam would take videos down for using basically any music so the choices were limited. Plus I think most of that footage I recorded playing a DVD on a laptop and recording the screen with a droid x camera so the fact audio was even picked up was a win lol. Also TH-cam compresses what you upload so sometimes that makes the music / audio less separated. Even my recent ones sounded clear until uploaded and then it gets kind of blurred. But for free and using free software I understand it won't be perfect but back in 2010 it was a crap shoot for sure.

  • @mdutton7567
    @mdutton7567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seen some really good hits in this video.
    Damn shame in the pussyfied NFL of today. 90% of them would have been a penalty.

  • @JAWrightonline
    @JAWrightonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bill Laimbeer with longer, curlier hair and a beard.

  • @kennycarlson9996
    @kennycarlson9996 ปีที่แล้ว

    well mike webster and john hannah destroyed him on a regular basis

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad he lined up at LDE and faced the right tackle, 2 down from Webster at center and 3 down from Hannah at left guard.

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 ปีที่แล้ว

      He played DE, Hannah was Gaurd,Webster a Center.

    • @kennycarlson9996
      @kennycarlson9996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos ya but he switched occassionally

    • @UncleJakesRaidersVideos
      @UncleJakesRaidersVideos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kennycarlson9996 and in his defense, John Hannah destroyed everyone on a regular basis 🤣🤣🤣

    • @kennycarlson9996
      @kennycarlson9996 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UncleJakesRaidersVideos no dout ,he was a beast, the origional larry allen

  • @tttoms4763
    @tttoms4763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did he and Lyle Alzado play together? that's a scary tandem to go against, before my time, so I've only seen the highlights

    • @richardmorris6365
      @richardmorris6365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Lyle was a Bronco till about 80, then Browns. Wasn't a Raider till 83 ish.