Which watches does a watchmaker collect?
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- In this video we're doing something very different: looking at the watches in my own collection! It's a variety of watches from different makers, ranging from the 1940's to 2010, also in different price categories. We'll start with the very watch that made me decide to get serious about watchmaking, a Jumbo bumper automatic LeCoultre Memovox and let's see where we go from there!
This will be the first of two videos, as I still have way too many watches in my collection :)
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I had no idea this one was coming up. It has to be one of the best collection videos I've seen and there's so much more. Some real superstars there.
Thanks so much Red, that's very nice to hear! There'll be a few more interesting pieces in the next video 😉
I enjoyed the longines the most of your watches. Second was the Lecultre Memovox.
It is sad that automatic watches with alarms are that rare.
The Longines is very nice indeed, I just need to put on an original crown. I'll do that during the service c😊
What a gorgeous collection! We have similar taste in vintage watches. You just have a lot more of them, and they're much nicer. My best watch is a new-looking but non-working F300hz Omega with a dial that kind of looks like a TV screen, but I prefer the automatic watches of the late 1940s to the mid-1960s. I really like your black-dialed Universal Geneve. Love your vids!
Thanks a lot, James! Some of my watches definitely need a good cleaning and a service though! It's like the old saying; the shoemaker's children go barefoot :)
The second instalment of my collection is scheduled for Saturday at 3pm CET, so stay tuned!
Brilliant video I absolutely love the Longines 👍thanks
Thanks a lot, James! Vintage Longines' are among the best you can get for sure 👍
Fortis is nice. There's something about vintage chronographs. Just so cool.
Thanks Griff! Yep, vintage chronos have something special about them 👍
Love this. A dig that some of them are beat up … and that at least one has lots of schmutz. Why have a watch you never wear?
Hello Angelino, thanks for watching as always! Yes, I like the watches to bear some marks from their history, just like their owner :)
And when you have a lot of watches there will be some you rarely wear, but for the Tag especially, it's indeed a good question why I have it. I suppose the answer is that if I sell it now I wouldn't get a good price but in a few years it's vintage 😉
Oh, what a lovely vintage collection Stian, a joy to hear you talking about them. I can’t wait for episode 2 of this!
Thanks, Boyd! There'll be another batch in the second video next weekend 👍
Hello, WOW, some very nice watches, that VC and Omega Pie Pan with the 501 caliber, and JLC ant the Longines, some nice catches you have, glad for you ! Nice video!
Thanks a lot, Tiberiu! There are so many lovely vintage watches out there, and so little time 🤔
Ah, that Longines is a thing of beauty. I'm really partial to Longines as for the most part I can afford them! But that does not detract from the brand at all
Hello Alan, I couldn't agree more. The Longines of old were some marvelous watches with some of the best movements ever made.
Is there any reason, why there are almost no micro rotor movements around today?
Hello Drugaskan, thanks for watching and for your question! Micro rotor movements were made to reduce the height of the movement. Today there's so much more science behind movement design, so that they can optimize the exact thickness of parts much better, thus being able to make the designs slimmer with full size rotors. Full size rotors are in most aspects better, so that's why you don't see them much anymore.
Was missing that Omega chronograph ;), I assume it was something lik that. Still a great collection! Thanks for info about the distance course, so this gave you the titel "urmakare " or?
Hi Watcheyes, that Omega chrono is scheduled for Saturday at 3pm CET :) And yes, I've taken a lot of courses at the BHI, but now that I'm in Switzerland I'll be taking some courses here of course 😉
Super IWC 852 and Universal Geneve Polerouter!
Thanks Perttu!
Omega baby.....worth EVERY penny. You can get such a lovely vintage one for 500 bucks
Cool :) I sold my LeCoultre Memo, it was too valuable to wear :( Beautiful Tag, Nardin (yep I'd say re-dialed). That Fortis is spectacular, even with the rough case. Nice collection.
Thanks a lot Darrel! I hope you got a good deal for your Memovox, they're rising nicely in prices nowadays. The Fortis will be featured on the channel in the near future and likely be put up for sale afterwards 😉
Love 'em all..but the Longines is Classical. Many others a down right awesome. Fine collection to say the least...Kudos
There's something to be said for vintage watches size there's a comfort bonus you can't ignore, add points for thinnest ones like the 60/70's cal. 42 UG's and Longines flagship I'm of the same build as you I can pull off 35mm and less watches witn ease, as long as the strap is well ajusted it doesn't look goofy.
Oh my that Fortis is stunning. I've been trying to find a watch like that (you see that dial on many vintage watches) but in good condition for years.
Thanks Dylan! The Fortis will be serviced/repaired on the channel quite shortly and I'll probably put it up for sale afterwards 😉
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
Stian, such a nice collection. I enjoyed this immensely
Thanks a lot Doug, that's very cool to hear 👍
What makes a watch collecteable for you?
Is it the brand - the movement or the design to make a watch fit into your collection?
As a teenager I wanted to become a watchmaker, but found no company that would take me as an apprentice and now as a 52year old truckdriver there is no way to find the time for courses to teach myself just to be a hobbyist watchmaker 😢
Would love to see that you might service a German Bifora as it is my collection brand…
What is market value for Omega steel atomatic . Your collection is very nice
How do you recognize people with a lot of money? They don't wear a watch at all because they don't have to appear anywhere on time.
I found a 1960,s benrus sealord 1 star. its missing the little round thing but it, s still running. $$
Lovely. What happened to your web site?
Thanks! Didn't know anything happened to the website?
@@VintageWatchServices all your sales offers disappeared
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He collects the ones customer doesn't pay for....
That IWC is a dream watch for me. The dial is stunning in its elegance and the movement beautifully finished for a watch of that age as normally one does not see that much decoration on a watch of that age and original price I find. I am very much looking forward to the service of that one!
Thanks Ian! Yes, that IWC is one of my favorites for sure, very clean and classic, just a fantastic dress watch. I'll be servicing it in not too long 👍
Very nice 😀😀
Thanks! 👍
"a classic amount of gunk" tickled me.
watches are fascinating..great show Bro!
You have great taste sir. Love the Polerouter. I've been looking for a long time but it's so very hard to find a genuine piece in good condition. The Memovox is classic too.
Thanks so much, Dave, that's very kind 😊 The Polerouter is indeed an absolute classic and of course the memovox also. I like the classic ones the most as you probably know by now, and among vintage watches there are so many to choose from!
Very much enjoyed this video.
It depends on the watchmaker, is the answer to that
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Thanks for sharing a lovely collection. Can anyone explain why watchmakers don't use IV for 4 in Roman numerals? 😊
Thanks! Watches and clocks use IIII instead of the correct IV to make the visual weight of the dial balance better
I whant to service my watch ?
Vintage watches before computer controlled machinery deserve extra recognition.
Small is really not that difficult anymore.
Right on!
The best imho are: 1. Omega Constellation pie pan + VC; 2. Iwc; 3. Longines 30L. I wuold like a 30L video service...
Hello Luca, a 30L service is absolutely coming up 👌
Are the UG polerouter movements difficult to service? Anything to watch out for during service?
The micro-rotor ones can be a bit trickier but with experience they shouldn't be particularly difficult to service, no.
Seiko or Ricoh is yet to add and made a video .
Love the Vacheron and the Longines.
Great to see a collection review with a peek at some of the movements.
You see a watch collection and you learn a little about the person who collected the pieces.
Thanks for sharing.
Hello Clive, thanks for that! I love the designs of the watches, but as a geek is3 also important what's on the inside 😁
What power loop would you recommend for a beginner watchmaker? I'm 57, and eyes are ok, but need reading glasses to read, so far I'm buying 2x & 3x to read. I'm thinking for watches, maybe a 10x or is that too powerful for all around repairs?
Hello Bert, 10x is too powerful indeed, and the issue is that the stronger the loupe, the closer you have to be to the subject to focus. I'd suggest a 3x loupe for general work and 10x for inspection of the finest details if you need to. A microscope is of course superior for the finest work if you have the option.
Nice collection. Do you worry about radium on watches that are from like from the 40s or 50s?
No, radium in watches is not as dangerous as many people think. You certainly do not want to wear them every day and sleep with them next to your open mouth, but having one in your collection and wearing it every now and then is not a problem.
Wow!!! What a collection. Superb watches. Sir, does BHI stands for British Horological Institute? I do have 3 alarm wrist watches. One is Vulcain Cricket and the other two are Favre-Leuba Sea Bird. The alarm is so loud that you could jump off your bed. I had an opportunity to buy one more Favre-Leuba Memoraider alarm wrist watch at a throw away price, but I kick myself now for not buying it. The price now is 50 times more in the vintage market. Favre-Leuba is a well known brand in India and they had two offices; one in Kolkata(Calcutta) and the other one in Mumbai(Bombay). They sold and serviced this iconic brand which us now owned by the Tatas in India. Sadly, after import of watches were banned when India started producing HMT watches in collaboration with Citizen of Japan, Favre-Leuba offices sold whatever watches were available at a hefty discount.
I noticed a small crack in the Tag Heuer crystal above the index 10. I am not sure if my observation is right.
Does your wife help you to services watches? You said that some scratch marks were because of her?
Can't wait to see your second video.
Thanks, K! Favre-Leuba is a brand with a great legacy and they're still active, putting out some nice diver's watches, for instance. And alarm watches are very cool, I love seeing the puzzled expressions on people's faces when it goes off 😂
The Tag doesn't have a crack, no, the rehaut is however mirror polished so you can see a piece of the 1 reflected. Maybe that's what you saw? And no, my wife doesn't come anywhere near the watches, I was more alluding to hear putting some marks on me :)
Over a 100 Kg? Well, it is a scientific fact that muscle weighs more then fat...besides that...you have the voice of an athlete...
what more proof do we need ?
Paddy (on a diet)
Once upon a time I would indeed be deemed an athlete, but once upon a time I also had dark hair 😁
HELLO I LIKE YOUR SHOWS !! A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU PLEZES ? I HAVE A ZODIAC ROTGRAPHIC AUTOMATIC WATCH FROM THE 1960’S MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS WHATS YOUR OPINION ON THIS WATCH ?? THANKYOU
Hello Michael, thanks for watching! The Rotographic was a solid line of watches and in good condition they're still quite valuable.
Off all watches Lord Elgin is very royal. However it's winding one.
Lord Elgins are indeed very nice :)
I have a Exactus chronograph rose gold watch, all original parts, and running perfectly, I wonder if you could help me to know what would be the price for this great watch?
Sounds like a nice watch! It really depends on lots of things like condition, size, movement etc. The best thing to do is probably to google the watch and check eBay or Chrono24 for similar ones. Note that Chrono24 listed watches are generally serviced and come with a warranty, thus being priced higher.
Great choices!
Thank you for this video.
You have tastes very similar to mine, as far as watches are concerned. It seems that Ulysse Nardin has a reprinted dial, but you have some very nice watches with excellent calibers.
Greetings from Italy
Thanks a lot, Stefano! That must mean you have excellent taste! 😂
i didn't know Ulysse Nardin makes "normal" watches...
They're a very interesting brand, having made a name for themselves with marine chronometers, then making "normal watches" with third party movements (many of which have earned a reputation for being overpriced and overrated) and then in the recent decades really upping their game with some crazy and very cool watches :)
Hello i have a eberhard watch and i really don't know much about it.. how can I contact u,i wanted some help.. Thank you
Hello Rayan, thanks for watching! You can send us a mail at info@vintagewatchservices.eu
Like that ultra thin Vacheron a lot!
Does it has the cal. 1003?
Thanks for sharing the video!
Hello Peter, it's a 1001 and the video of its service is here: th-cam.com/video/dGMAxAaYdvY/w-d-xo.html :)
I bough a Ulysse Nardin and I’m still not sure if it’s a Franken watch as I can’t find anything like to online. It’s a dive watch with the pilot style dial and date at 3.
UN wrist watches used third party movements until just a few years back (some of them heavily modified), but most vintage ones you find will have pretty much off the shelf movements from AS and other ebauche manufacturers. They didn't sell a lot of wristwatches either, so it's often a guessing game with vintage UN wristwatches, unfortunately. The best thing to do is to put some good photos of your watch on a forum such as watchuseek and ask there. There are a lot of knowledgeable people who can help you.
beautiful 👍
I really liked the BHI 150 flying tourbillon.
Thanks! I like it also, it's very fascinating to watch the tourbillon, even if this is a cheap Chinese movement in which the tourbillon probably has no actual purpose...
I really enjoy your channel. Why are so many leather straps made from what looks like croc. skin? There are so many finer leathers. The large segments are inappropriate to the fineness of a watch face....
Thanks so much, that's great to hear :) Watch straps are quite personal, it's very common that someone buys a watch and immediately changes the strap to something they like. What may look like croc is probably 99% of the time printed bovine leather, but they're quite popular indeed. There is a balance between being too subtle for the watch and being too attention seeking, but it's mostly up to personal preferences.
Love the Longines , they were at the top of their game then.
I have the poor man’s version of that Memovox in steel , one of my favourites.
Diverse quality collection.
Yeah, vintage Longines' are really, really good watches. Their in house movements were among the very best at the time.
It appears that you store your collection in peat moss. Visible between lugs of several pieces. Does the peat moss absorb moisture?
😂 Why, yes it does!
How interesting you used the British institute, I’m in the U.K. and have toyed with doing one of their short courses
I'm actually planning to do a review of their offerings shortly, so stay tuned :)
I like the look of the Lord Elgin ... will look forward to seeing you service it.
Thanks! It's a cool watch that needs some love, and it'll get it soon 😉
The Vacheron with the Malteze cross you should keep forever
🤔 Not the worst suggestion I ever heard...
Mamma mia che bellezza 🥰
That Longine movement does look beautiful.
Hello Dave, thanks for watching and for your comment! Longines made so many fantastic movements and watches back in the day and were a real powerhouse right up there with Omega and Rolex. The 30L movement is quite famous (among watch geeks, that is) and is absolutely beautiful. I'll get to making a servicing video soon :)
So many high quality and even quirky timepieces to be found
The Nardin and the Longines are my favorites. A nice collection, I am watching to see what comes up for sale on your website!
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Great collection, sir! Thanks for sharing it with us. Look forward to seeing the rest of it in your next video.
Thanks so much! Yes, there'll ne another video of my own watches, then I'll do a servicing video again. And I haven't forgotten yours!
Good. Thank you.
So you won't own up to keeping the Mickey Mouse pocket watch.. 🤔
😂 Eh... there simply wasn't enough time for all of my watches?
why are the profits in this business small??
In the vintage watch business? Mainly because parts are getting very expensive and difficult to find. I still think you can make a good living when focusing on doing the right thing and treating your customers right.
Sir what was the duration of the distance course.
Hello J W, you can do the DLC at your own pace, but the generally indicated time is one year per level. You can find all the information here: bhi.co.uk/training-education/dlc/
Very nice 👍 like to see more! Thanks for sharing 😸
Thanks a lot, Randy! The second instalment will come on Saturday :)
So is BHI BEIJING HOROLOGICAL INSTITUTE?
😂 No, not quite sure why you would think that... It's the British Horological Institute (www.bhi.co.uk)
beautiful watches
Thanks David! The second part is coming in just a couple of hours, so stay tuned :)
“Which watches does a watchmaker wear” was right there …
You're right indeed, but I honestly don't wear all of my watches that much... so "collect" covered more of them :)
Never heard of any of those brands before
You haven't heard of brands like Omega, IWC, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Longines, Tag Heuer etc? Makes me really wonder what kind of brands you have heard of 😂
I hope you do well 🌺👍🏼 you are good person, nice calm talking guy 😍 unlike other pretentious TH-camrs who loves showing off their rolexes 🤢
Hello Mohnad, thanks so much! I have exactly one Rolex that I will show off in the next video, but it's not a typical one 😁
@@VintageWatchServices am sure it’s not one of those pretentious pieces like other TH-camrs who spend 9-15k on their “ understated underrated “ submariners explorers and pretend they are strong man divers and everest climbers
Anything thats worth money
It's much more about passion than money 😉
10:54 Why did so few other companies make chronographs like that? It makes the easiest operator error of a chronograph virtually impossible!
Hello El Gatto, you mean using the bottom pusher for pausing the chrono? Good question and I'm not really sure. I suppose it's become a matter of conformity as people are used to the upper pusher being start/stop and the bottom reset. 🤔
@@VintageWatchServices A lot of people break their chronographs whether accidentally or on purpose by pressing the reset pusher while the chronograph is running. If the bottom controlled both stop and reset then that couldn't happen.
I guess convention holds strong, but it seems like a silly design flaw of most chronographs to me.
Again very impressive collection you have there my friend..my favorite was Omega Constellation, very stunning piece...thank you for sharing your beautiful collection 👍👍⌚....I collect many Gruen, Curvex ,little bit of everything....just having fun with collecting....great content.
Thanks Ricardo! It's a slippery slope collecting vintage watches 😉
Lol, Do all watchmakers have an abusive wife? Every watchmaker on you tube takes a sardonic swipe at his wife. I mean we all do it but it seems to be a pattern. hahahaha
Thanks for watching, Scott! I'm not sure I understand your question? Do you mean there are married men who do not complain about their wives?🤔
@@VintageWatchServices Pffft. I don't know any who don't. hahaha. Just giving you a hard time.
Excellent video Venn! I have my father's Lord Elgin Black Knight. Small, but that was the style in 1957.
Thanks, Donny! The Black Knight is a beauty of a watch but indeed a bit small for today's preferences. But hang onto it, it's a wonderful piece :)
Beautiful, sir. Very nice. The Tag Heuer is really nice, but I hear you with the being a big guy and having a watch that feels odd on your wrist. I have an Omega Planet Ocean chronograph. The 45.5mm case doesn't look out of place, but it feels out of place. Whereas, the 40mm Oris Big Crown I just bought is MUCH nicer. That being said, I could find a place for your Carrera in my matchbox any day. :) I look forward to Part II.
Thanks, Clay! Watch sizes are mostly a matter of habit, if you're used to smaller watches you feel anything bigger is weird, and if you're used to bigger watches you feel anything smaller is weird... Most younger people today are used to a common watch size of just below 40mm, so for a lot of them the 34-35mm of the days of yore "look like ladies watches" as I've been told 😂
Part 2 coming on Saturday at 3pm CET!
Excellent watches... that Wacheron is a jewel but almost anyone from your collection is an excellent example of the finest horology. I'm a fan of longines and Wittnauer... Thanks for sharing your treasure Stian!!! best regards
Thanks so much!
*_The IWC and the Longines are GORGEOUS. I am envious but appreciate just the opportunity to look at them. Simply beautiful watches. Thank you for showing them off._*
Thanks for watching, Joe! As far as dress watches go, those two are indeed pretty much perfect within their own designs.
Fantastic collection so many stunners, thanks for sharing it with us.
Ps I have to say because my ocd but what the heck is all that dna doing at 03:09 😬😂
Thanks for that, Redwolf! Yes, a couple of these watches needs some cleaning and a service but I know people like to see the DNA being removed, so I thought I'd save it for the servicing videos 😁
@@VintageWatchServices everyone loves seeing wrist cheese being removed! 👍
You are a great sport.
All the best.
Looking forward to you servicing the Landeron as I have just picked up a Rodania Super with the Landeron 248 movement the chrono stops around the 60sec mark and from some on line research it appears that the chrono is out of adjustment. Thanks and keep well from New Zealand. Btw I'm also a ball of muscle 6ft 3 and 125kg. 😃
New Zealand, very cool! I kind of always thought there were some similiarities between Norway and New Zealand, but I still haven't been there... will try to rectify that at some point :)
The problem with your watch is likely that the hour finger on the chronograph seconds wheel butts on a tooth on the intermediate minute counter wheel. Adjusting the depthing of the intermediate wheel and the position of the minute wheel counter jumper will probably fix the issue. 💪
Thank you for sharing your amazing collection - love that Tag Heuer chronograph. Waiting for episode 2. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Episode 2 has already been published, you can find it on the channel :)
The glaringly conspicuous absence of a rectangular watch amongst your otherwise admirable collection is rather disheartening. What gives? 🤔
I'm simply not a fan of rectangular designs 😉
@@VintageWatchServices Not even a Cartier Tank?! 🤔
Nope, absolutely not a fan :)
@@VintageWatchServices Well, I'll be jiggered! 😧
@@VintageWatchServices Well, I’ll be jiggered! 😦
A very nice collection, I personally like the Vacheron Constantin best. I've only just discovered my love for vintage watches, mainly through clearing out the basement where I rediscovered my grandfather's watch. A Mirexal from 1974. A new battery was drained in just 2 months, probably needs a service :)
Thanks! And yes, it the battery drains that fast, it's likely a lot of friction in the train.
I love your style! Simple, elegant timeless. Bravo.
Thank you! Cheers!
Amazing collection!!! Really beautiful each and every one of them.
Thank you so much!
Yes I do have question. I had my Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso serviced by Jaeger-LeCoultre. The watch had no issues but you and others convinced me that servicing was a good thing 😁. They charged me euro 1.100. Do you consider this reasonable?
Hello Ian, that's a very difficult question to answer without knowing what was up with the watch, but especially for vintage watches I would always advise servicing at an independent watchmaker who specializes in vintage. The brands have a policy of replacing anything that moves (...), so it gets expensive very fast.
Never really looked closely at watches until I found one in a charity shop, then I found your channel now I've got 18 watches but none as good as your beautiful collection, one day maybe 👍👍
That is awesome!
Thank you, you definitely have a beautiful and living collection, have fun with developing it, and please keep on posting, your 'bad jokes' are getting trendy nowadays.. Cheers 😀
Thanks, Gilles! I haven't been trendy for like 20 years, so that's good to hear 😂
What a knowledgeable man.so refreshing to hear amidst the know nothing uneducated bloggers/entrepreneurs that unfortunately populate the internet! WOW!
Thanks a lot David, that's very kind of you 😊