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@@boostedmedia thanks for the reply! I want to build a Sim and given the price differences between a CS2.5 and the DD1 (not much here in Canada) I'm struggling with the idea of the belt or direct drive idea as a noob.
I’m in self isolation as my family has Covid but seriously, your videos are keeping me entertained. I also got a G920 about 2 months ago so that’s keeping me going on Forza and F1 games and ACC.
Great to see that they care about the feedback and modify their product accordingly in a short term. I bought my SC2 Pro last year since I wanted to have a direct drive wheel base, but considering the price difference Simagic would be an option to consider if I would be in the same situation again today. Especially in comparison with the higher priced belt driven wheels like Fanatec's CSW. Love those update videos since you can see products evolving over time.
Nice to see that Simagic continue to heavily revise their GT4 wheel. Silicone grip, carbon face plate and black rotary encoders. Really high quality stuff.
I just got the m10 with the Gt4 rim and my rim looks a bit different .dosent have the colored bottons and the logo in the middle is just etched .but im loving it so far so good.and from sim motion is got base and rim with the extra clutches for 1100.00 us
Hey Will , first of all ....one of the best SIM racing channels on youtube !! How about doing a video connecting wheels to different bases --- like this SimRig GT4 connected to a DD1 would be very cool to see this kind of videos - thanks
simagic release the new ddw "alpha" using servo motor just like sc2 or fanatec dd, big improvement from the reviews of some Chinese user compare to M10. alpha base + QR is about 812€. alpha base + gt4 is about 1123€. well technically they announced alpha base several months ago, but retailers didn't have them in stock until 1 or 2 month ago i think.
Looks like the alpha is only $100 more than the M10 with 50% more power and (I'm assuming) a smoother motor. Unless they drop the price I'm not sure why anyone would buy an M10 anymore. Personally, I'm glad to see another company making mid-high end sim gear but I feel like Simagic needs to be a little more aggressive with their pricing if they want to win over more market share. I'm in the market for a DD wheel. I have looked at Simagic but there is really no reason for me to risk buying a Simagic setup other than price yet the Alpha is now priced similarly to the DD1 and Simucube 2 Sport. Even if it is 5-10% less expensive, I don't think saving $50-$100 outweighs the risk spending over a grand on a system and not being sure whether the brand will even be around in a year or two? or whether they will stand by their product if it ends up having issues (iirc Simagic has no in-house support and forces distributers to deal with any issues) Especially, when the alternatives have much better eco-systems and arguably just better products in general. That said, I think their products look great, seem to be designed well, and have decent pricing but I think they need to add more value to outweigh the risks. Personally, if I were them, once the Alpha is in full production I'd up the M10's production and offer it to distributers at basically it's cost or even slightly below - making it's MSRP around $499 - $549. This will give the M!) and Alpha a big enough price differential (no one will buy an M10 if the Alphas is only $100 more) DD wheel at this range would crush it and instantly expand their potential customer base. Suddenly, all these people eyeing the CSL Elite and CSW would rightfully so, consider Simagic instead. Sure, you wouldn't be making much money on the M10 base sales but you'd be attracting much more people into your ecosystem - which at this point I would argue is even more important for the brand's success. This will lead to a huge increase of accessory sales (I'd also produce Simagic pedals, shifter, and more wheels all with slightly higher margins)as well as more future sales from word of mouth and customer's upgrades now that they are locked into your ecosystem. Once Simagic's customer base has scaled it will allow them (through the magic of lower marginal costs) to offer better products at better prices further attracting more people into their ecosystem. Anyway, it seems like their best chance at success IMO. Give people a compelling reason to switch over. Right now there is almost no competition right now when it comes to mid-range sim wheels ($400-$700, pretty much just Fanatec) . It's a meaty part of the sim market that Simagic could take a chunk of by using their M10 as a loss leader to attract a lot of people into their ecosystem while also giving themselves a reputation of offering good products at great prices.
Thanks for the update. I found a suppler in Canada that ships for free. So it’s quite abit cheaper then it’s competitors when you factor in shipping and fees to ship over the border. Do you think it’s a worthy update from a thrustmaster tspc? I’m really close to pulling the trigger on the sim magic.
Just switched from a TS-PC and got my m10 all setup. Still tinkering with settings, but so far the upgrade was totally worth it. Much stronger and detailed FFB, and the leather GT1 rim is amazing quality. Still trying to figure out settings for Raceroom, but AC, ACC, PCars2 and AMS2 all feel great on the M10.
I upgraded from a TSPC and only use iRacing, it is definetly just plug and play with the only thing I have adjusted is increasing the total force feedback to 70%. Its an awesome upgrade for sure.
Super update! Would really like to buy an m10 but want to use my fanatec wheel, you know which is the difference between the Simagic full and half quick release? 🤔
Hi, m8, are you aware of the price of that wheel? It's the same of a Ascher . They start teasing us with lower prices, but in Europe more then 800€ for the base and 650€ for that wheel, it's almost the same of a DD1 with a Formula 1 Esports...
Really cannot see validility in the argument that the Simmagic DD-wheel would be ”great value”, not when its the same price as Fanatec DD1 and not in any way, shape or form as good.
Dunno were you live but it´s cheaper than any DD from Fanatec at least in europe plus it comes with a wheel and shipping..Since it´s a niche hobby most of the companies charge a premium price on anything, specially non premium companies e.g Thrustmaster. it´s nice to see someone trying to lower the prices for a change with a good quality overall.
Hi mate, just curious what would your opinion be, go for a entry level direct drive wheel like this or a high end belt driven wheel like the clubsport?
Personally I still prefer the CSW2.5. It has less detail and strength, but it’s smoother and more consistent between different sims. But it really depends on what’s important to you.
@@boostedmedia thanks for the feedback mate. Would you say the lack of detail in the csw could hinder speed? I only really race in Iracing, any other sim doesn't have that same feeling to me. Nothing like first lap nerves in iracing!
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How would you compare this to the DD1, or even the CS2.5?
DD1 and CSW2.5 are both smoother and more refined overall. But this has more fidelity than the CSW.
@@boostedmedia thanks for the reply! I want to build a Sim and given the price differences between a CS2.5 and the DD1 (not much here in Canada) I'm struggling with the idea of the belt or direct drive idea as a noob.
The DD1 is a big step up from the CSW. Have a watch of this: th-cam.com/video/7BaeR07ZFrg/w-d-xo.html
@@boostedmedia cheers! Thanks!
Its good that you revisit technology as products do get developed over time which could make them more attractive to purchase.
I’m in self isolation as my family has Covid but seriously, your videos are keeping me entertained. I also got a G920 about 2 months ago so that’s keeping me going on Forza and F1 games and ACC.
All the best for a full and speed recovery!
Great to see that they care about the feedback and modify their product accordingly in a short term. I bought my SC2 Pro last year since I wanted to have a direct drive wheel base, but considering the price difference Simagic would be an option to consider if I would be in the same situation again today. Especially in comparison with the higher priced belt driven wheels like Fanatec's CSW.
Love those update videos since you can see products evolving over time.
Thank you for cover product updates and such. I’m considering one of these so this came in a great time
Nice to see that Simagic continue to heavily revise their GT4 wheel. Silicone grip, carbon face plate and black rotary encoders. Really high quality stuff.
fine you’ve convinced me mate, I need this.
I can't wait for the simagic alpha base test！！！
how could anyone dislike wills videos... Good vid btw :) Your the person who got me into sim racing
This is great and I can’t wait for the alpha review video
ALREADY 9 months? Time flies when you're having fun.
I thought it was maybe 5 months. Looked at the old video, 9 months..... crazy!
I just got the m10 with the Gt4 rim and my rim looks a bit different .dosent have the colored bottons and the logo in the middle is just etched .but im loving it so far so good.and from sim motion is got base and rim with the extra clutches for 1100.00 us
Hey Will , first of all ....one of the best SIM racing channels on youtube !!
How about doing a video connecting wheels to different bases --- like this SimRig GT4 connected to a DD1
would be very cool to see this kind of videos - thanks
simagic release the new ddw "alpha" using servo motor just like sc2 or fanatec dd, big improvement from the reviews of some Chinese user compare to M10.
alpha base + QR is about 812€.
alpha base + gt4 is about 1123€.
well technically they announced alpha base several months ago, but retailers didn't have them in stock until 1 or 2 month ago i think.
Looks like the alpha is only $100 more than the M10 with 50% more power and (I'm assuming) a smoother motor. Unless they drop the price I'm not sure why anyone would buy an M10 anymore. Personally, I'm glad to see another company making mid-high end sim gear but I feel like Simagic needs to be a little more aggressive with their pricing if they want to win over more market share. I'm in the market for a DD wheel. I have looked at Simagic but there is really no reason for me to risk buying a Simagic setup other than price yet the Alpha is now priced similarly to the DD1 and Simucube 2 Sport. Even if it is 5-10% less expensive, I don't think saving $50-$100 outweighs the risk spending over a grand on a system and not being sure whether the brand will even be around in a year or two? or whether they will stand by their product if it ends up having issues (iirc Simagic has no in-house support and forces distributers to deal with any issues) Especially, when the alternatives have much better eco-systems and arguably just better products in general.
That said, I think their products look great, seem to be designed well, and have decent pricing but I think they need to add more value to outweigh the risks. Personally, if I were them, once the Alpha is in full production I'd up the M10's production and offer it to distributers at basically it's cost or even slightly below - making it's MSRP around $499 - $549. This will give the M!) and Alpha a big enough price differential (no one will buy an M10 if the Alphas is only $100 more) DD wheel at this range would crush it and instantly expand their potential customer base. Suddenly, all these people eyeing the CSL Elite and CSW would rightfully so, consider Simagic instead. Sure, you wouldn't be making much money on the M10 base sales but you'd be attracting much more people into your ecosystem - which at this point I would argue is even more important for the brand's success. This will lead to a huge increase of accessory sales (I'd also produce Simagic pedals, shifter, and more wheels all with slightly higher margins)as well as more future sales from word of mouth and customer's upgrades now that they are locked into your ecosystem. Once Simagic's customer base has scaled it will allow them (through the magic of lower marginal costs) to offer better products at better prices further attracting more people into their ecosystem. Anyway, it seems like their best chance at success IMO. Give people a compelling reason to switch over. Right now there is almost no competition right now when it comes to mid-range sim wheels ($400-$700, pretty much just Fanatec) . It's a meaty part of the sim market that Simagic could take a chunk of by using their M10 as a loss leader to attract a lot of people into their ecosystem while also giving themselves a reputation of offering good products at great prices.
the engine from the construction looks like SC2 pro, but they managed to make a real wireless !!!
Hello, from which seller is the alpha base + gt4 available for 1123€? Thanks
@@alexkupfer9171 All sellers in China are giving the same price. You should check Simagic website to find the nearest distributor and talk to them.
Love my Simagic m10
Sure brings the magic into sim racing doesn't it
5:34 RIP table :p
Haha mate it’s seen farrrrr worse.
Nice review again Will, Thanks! :) I really hope someone will try to mount this new GT wheel to Fanatec wheelbase, would be an awesome alternative :)
Have a look at Sim Racing Garage’s latest video. He reviewed an adaptor
I do love the look of that wheel
Wow! First. Now I feel dumb like the others.
this or csl dd as fanatec have no stock, price hike and vat on import makes them a pretty similar price
Thanks for the update. I found a suppler in Canada that ships for free. So it’s quite abit cheaper then it’s competitors when you factor in shipping and fees to ship over the border.
Do you think it’s a worthy update from a thrustmaster tspc? I’m really close to pulling the trigger on the sim magic.
Just switched from a TS-PC and got my m10 all setup. Still tinkering with settings, but so far the upgrade was totally worth it. Much stronger and detailed FFB, and the leather GT1 rim is amazing quality.
Still trying to figure out settings for Raceroom, but AC, ACC, PCars2 and AMS2 all feel great on the M10.
Good to hear! Thanks for the info. I will mostly to using it for iracing so should be pretty much plug and play
I upgraded from a TSPC and only use iRacing, it is definetly just plug and play with the only thing I have adjusted is increasing the total force feedback to 70%. Its an awesome upgrade for sure.
what is the supplier?
Super update! Would really like to buy an m10 but want to use my fanatec wheel, you know which is the difference between the Simagic full and half quick release? 🤔
Great stuff, love mine.
The simagic GT1/4 works on sc2pro?
All the function, clutch, button..?
I wonder, this base alone cost around $600 to $700 us dollars, it is this one recommended over the Fanatec V2.5 that cost $500 dollars?
Had the 2,5v before i bought the m10, both are good, but the direct drive is better
In China, m10 goes for around $500 and the csw v2.5 is like 750$ so m10 is a no brainer for us lol
Great video as always. Have they improved their software?
It doesn’t appear so. Version 1.35 looks identical and I couldn’t feel any significant difference in the feedback.
alright that's it, i'm getting this one
With the release of the CSL DD, where would you say this stands in comparison?
Can you review the new mini alpha?
Hi, m8, are you aware of the price of that wheel? It's the same of a Ascher .
They start teasing us with lower prices, but in Europe more then 800€ for the base and 650€ for that wheel, it's almost the same of a DD1 with a Formula 1 Esports...
Yup, makes it utterly pointless
is this still worth buying in 2024?
Hey bro! From Where, did u get that racetrack stickers behind you?
Hey will any word when the alpha is out?
Let me know if you need help with Dirt 2.0, it's a little tricky, I got an alpha base not a M10 but it is the same process.
simagic m10 or moza r9 ? :P
Really cannot see validility in the argument that the Simmagic DD-wheel would be ”great value”, not when its the same price as Fanatec DD1 and not in any way, shape or form as good.
DD1 in Canada: 1600 + Shipping. Simagic in Canada: 1300, shipping included and Wheel Included. So yeah. Great Value is valid.
Dunno were you live but it´s cheaper than any DD from Fanatec at least in europe plus it comes with a wheel and shipping..Since it´s a niche hobby most of the companies charge a premium price on anything, specially non premium companies e.g Thrustmaster. it´s nice to see someone trying to lower the prices for a change with a good quality overall.
Where to buy and how much?
Hi mate, just curious what would your opinion be, go for a entry level direct drive wheel like this or a high end belt driven wheel like the clubsport?
Personally I still prefer the CSW2.5. It has less detail and strength, but it’s smoother and more consistent between different sims. But it really depends on what’s important to you.
@@boostedmedia thanks for the feedback mate. Would you say the lack of detail in the csw could hinder speed? I only really race in Iracing, any other sim doesn't have that same feeling to me. Nothing like first lap nerves in iracing!
No definitely not.
Hey mate where’s the website
When are you going to get your hands on a Accuforce V2?
They aren’t interested in a review for the V2. Maybe if/when a new product is released.
Dumb question is it compatible with consoles or is still fanatec the only one dd
Pc only.
Speak slowly!!!! It is irritating
You really speak TOO fast. This thing is really irritating
thanks alot ,looking forward to a test on SIMAGIC ALPHA