"Oh boy, my owner is doing that thing again where he pokes things with sticks." I love how as soon as the horse realises the lance in his peripheral vision is couched it's time to rock. What a good boy!
My 7 year old son is absolutely addicted to you and your horses and all of your videos and he loves the Middle Ages too. I am an archaeologist and I would like to thank you for being so realistic about the way life really was at the time. Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹 Cheers
Your son's gonna grow up a fine lad I wish I could've learned these informations at a much younger age, so glad technology gives easy access to informations like these
Amazing! I swear that Warlord is studying just as hard as you guys are. He's constantly checking on his companion and considering how to protect him against the ground attack. He didn't show any signs of concern for his own well-being. He would have been a fine soldier, that horse.
LOL if horses didn't look out for anything, they would not exist. You are confusing a sensitive, reacting animal with a lounge chair... why the contempt?
Im only 10 minutes into the video. I really like how your showing how you two are reading the book & figuring it out on camera. Thanks for sharing, very interesting stuff.
That's something that stands out to me as well. I love the honesty and rawness of these videos. It's a wonderful teaching approach and so much better than watching highly scripted educational videos.
The most fascinating part is that the horse must now be trained deal with more things than just running in a strait line for a joust. It's like the horse effectively is learning martial arts as well, in its own way and participation.
If I may, I think another thing that's 'saving' Guy is Warlord was starting to anticipate the clack of the lance. You can see after about the third or fourth time, he starts to move away a bit as you make your approach, which gives Guy more room to maneuver. I think that with practice and holding Warlord on a steady line, Guy will be forced to move away to perform his counter. As always, love watching your videos, and give Warlord an ear scritch or two for me! XD
So I am a real-life martial artist, I even used to teach karate. Ive been in many classes with many instructors, with people of various experience ranging from complete novice to expert. How you guys approached this subject is exactly how all real martial artists approach fighting and likely how the knights and men at arms face it as well. It usually starts with something simple, in this case you guys looked at a parry-counter, a very easy concept that can be taught in about 5 minutes. From there questions get asked which leads to more questions. Ive been in classes and taught classes where only one technique was taught, then people started playing with it and asking questions and soon everyone had something completely different from the original lesson. I think this is one reason the old fight manuals were so vague at times. They werent a comprehensive guide to fighting, but rather an overview of concepts and strategies that fighters then took and played with and came up with their own things unique to them.
That's definitely something. I think that there's also a case of where it's not expected someone to learn on their from the manual necessarily but to be taught from it by someone who already knows the material.
What I find fascinating is that this is a manual from a time when they were used to teach combat techniques to people who would actually face death in combat. So everything you say really takes hold. If you were preparing for a true life and death situation you would want to be as thorough in your training as possible. You would want to ask real question and anticipate real behaviors. This type of training is the only way I can think of to get there. You can't exactly have the enemy politely offer to do a few trial runs to see if your sterile practiced techniques are valid in the real world.
This is great, just watching u guys work through all of this. No fancy camera edits, or crazy music, it's as if I'm literally sitting there next to u guys just watching all of this.
It's how they trained back then so it's really great to see it like that. Like you were sat on the side watching 2 knights train and figure out ways to fight! I agree, it's super relaxing and I could literally watch it for hours! Just fascinating to see how they actually did things rather than it all being all killing and drama like in most documentary shows and movies and such!
15:20 wow, that was some amazing calm on Warlord's part. He tossed his head a little, but that was as much response as he gave to a loud clack right by his head and a shaft passing right by his ear. That is an incredibly well-trained horse.
I imagine a group of ancient warriors all standing around having the exact same debate upon their first few battles with concentrates cavalry force. Quite the image to have.
I really like seeing you working with spears here, especially on foot. I think a lot of the historical channels focus a lot on swords because swords are popular today. Yet spears and polearms were used a lot more on the battlefield than the sword, and when we see people looking at the original documents and using them competently we can see just how superior a good pole arm can be compared to an arming or even long sword.
Man, this was seriously super fascinating like modern reenactment and archeology. I'm glad that your 'scholar' in this case I believe was comfortable with your horse. I would have been terrified, but he knew the script and interpretation well. He saw how the horse reacted under very slow speeds. Obviously, the cacophony of noise wouldn't bother a warhorse in the thousands as it did singly for an off-shoot warhorse breed. Super cool!
Very impressed by Mr Windsor's handle of Medieval Italian, albeit with a very English pronunciation. Thank you for teaching us about Fiore dei Liberi on your great channel.
I have to say I really love how well you treat Warlord and make his safety a priority. Really fascinating exploration, it turns out the manual is near me (at the Getty) and I can’t wait to check it out.
Jason: "Right, we're going to invite this chap over to VERY GENTLY show him how we fought back in the day." Warlord: "Master COME ON, we could kill this clown ten times over with THIS VERY STICK if you'd just let me go a bit faster. Oh ALL RIGHT I'll behave, I'll behave."
Squire: My Lord, it seems you and your horse have created quite the bond. When will I get to do that? Jason: When you're ready, my squire. Go to the mead hall and buy yourself a drink will you? Squire: My Lord.
This sort of content is severely lacking in other youtube channels. Seeing the process of working out the techniques from original source material and then the discussion that comes from actually performing it is amazing. Warlord and the other horses are fantastic and it is wonderful seeing them work. I hope to see more in depth discussion and demonstrations of combat in the future. Overall this channel is fantastic and I hope to see these videos continue for a very long time
As a Fioreist this is great to watch. Equestrian HEMA is just too expensive for me to experiment with so it's great to watch someone else who can do it.
Gorgeous work. Just gorgeous. I would most definitely agree that standing against a charging steed, with armored knight, steel tipped lance, and murder in their eyes....would take balls of steel. Or at the VERY least, years of training and a huge dose of confidence IN one's training. Not to mention needing to be quite smart about your battlefield decisions - split second reactions would be absolutely necessary at full speed, wouldn't it? Warlord was indeed a very, very good boy in this endeavor. He did NOT like that noise right beside his head, certainly, but he also didn't react half as badly as he could have. I can't imagine poor Talos would have been able to deal with this experiment quite so handily. He's just not used to that kind of thing, yet! I was also impressed that Warlord did not - well, lose his temper I guess? That might not be the correct term. I've heard stories once or twice, about war horses getting upset in a different way - most horses flee, but there are those times when "flight" seems not an option for whatever reason to them, and then things go pretty badly for someone. Maybe the horse, but more often the humans; the specific stories I'm recalling involved a particular stallion who tended to bite when he was upset. Perhaps of use on a real battlefield, not very helpful in training or re-enactment! Though I will note, this animal was also not of "standard" stock, he was technically a Quarter Horse, with a lot of Mustang in there; and he had a temper to begin with. I believe his owner always said training with that horse was "lively." Knowing more about this than I used to - I no longer think he meant lively in an amusing way!! Wonderful video - thank you so much for continuing to share your experiments and experiences with us!
What a beautiful calm horse,he seemed to be hanging on your every word when you was sat at the beginning.I can't imagine how long it took to get him to this stage,very well done.
PLEASE hold lessons or experience days! I would love to come and live in the middle ages for a day, cooking, learning to fight, hopefully pet a lovely horse! I bet millions of people would love that
Agincourt would have been a line of horses charging. no where to "step" when that occurs. I always figured they dismounted because of the muddy terrain which is often mentioned? one things for sure, warhorse training must have been a very important career, much in demand.
@@tomaszlosinski875 The vaward 'battle' of the French advanced on foot and after a long slog through clay mud were reputedly exhausted by the time they had closed with the English line, as well as being funnelled by a narrowing field into an unwieldy mass. Being accustomed to fighting on horseback many were simply not battle fit.
This is true, but would be made up for in the fact that an English schiltron would have presented a lot of spiky bois at those horses, making it very likely something's going to get impaled if it charges in headlong. There was a small cavalry action at Agincourt, it just wasn't very effective because of where the English set up and because of the stakes and ditches etc. they dug in.
This was mad! So cool to see two guys like "Wanna attack me on your horse now?" "Sure hang on I'll go get him!" Also Warlord might be the best trained horse I have ever seen. Such a cool video.
I greatly appreciate this 'just sitting on the side' watching you figure out and learn. You share valuable insights, and a lot of it is in your dialog, the way you debate and theorize and then give things a try. For me as a writer this is great to from a picture of how training people and horses for defense and combat situations might work. I am very thankful!
The French dismounted because the English set up their defense across a muddy field, with dense forest on either side. They also dug trenches and put up stakes on both flanks and stationed their longbows behind them. They left the center open, stationing their foot knights there most armed with poleaxes and cavalry destroying polearms. It was a horrible decision to charge the English in that position. The English were not playing by the "rules" of lining up on open fields and deciding the battle with a cavalry charge.
I never miss a video. The informality, but serious inquiry makes them all the more enjoyable. This is clearly one of the best you've done. Yea, yea...the horse did good too.
Awesome video! I love how you both really break it down and brainstorm all the scenarios, angles, and possibilities. Not only is this extremely informative, but it's also great fun! Please keep videos like these coming! 👍🏼
Aaaaaaand... Warlord steals the show! What a good boy! Oh, and you humans were good too. It was very interesting to see how the illustrations and instructions played out in practice. I think that you were both insightful, from the two perspectives of the situation (in my totally amateur point of view anyway). And it looks like you both had a lot of fun! Great video!
*It should be mandatory for Hollywood directors to watch this video!* I can see so many things that need to be changed in movies. REAL combat, I think, would look much more interesting than movie nonsense. There is a lot to learn here!
while interesting, i think that we have been trained in Holywood fights/"martial arts" so seeing something accurate and realistic would, in fact, look weird instead
IMO the problem is real combat does not look good on camera. My experience is that 1) it is so fast that only those of us with training know what happened; and we're only a small segment of the movie watching population so we don't make Hollywood enough money. 2) Real combat is brutal, again the majority of the money contributing population would not likely enjoy watching fast, technical fights resulting in truly traumatic, often disgusting injuries.
Lovely guest appearance! I enjoyed watching you both bounce ideas off eachother and the trial and error approach of interpreting the fight book. What a treat!
It feels like a lot of techniques being shown would be in the post-charge melee where the horse's momentum would be a lot slower. I saw that some assumptions were being made that the rider would be able to be struck even at a higher speed but it doesn't *seem* likely. While the manual is very dismounted combat orientated, it's almost certain that there are more mounted techniques to counter foot combatants. It's all very interesting! Great video.
The thing is, once you've read that far in the manuscript you already know most of the principles of the system, just apply them on a horse. Look at the lanza vs lanza section, there's a sum total of 2 techniques (with one counter.) That's because once you get to that point you've already come through things like half-swording and pollaxe to deal with breaking weapons to the ground, or getting tangled up on the middle of the lanza. The treatise is either 1. a presentation piece of 2. a study guide, not an exhaustive manual on each section's fullest extent of techniques.
I just took a fall going full speed on a horse in my light armor kit and separated my shoulder joint. I look up to you as a knight so very much and hope one day to be as skilled as you through training one day!
Wow, that was an enthralling video! I'm so impressed with how focused Warlord is. I think all the horses I've ridden (dressage) would've thrown me off and galloped away if there was swords being swung near them.
This was absolutely fascinating. Guy made a good point when he said it's easy to parry while using sticks at slow speeds. Swap the sticks out for deadly weapons and a 30mph armored charge, and I think he'd have much more difficulty surviving.
Once a horse and rider, or in this case, knight. The horse will do what his master motions for him to do. A well trained horse will respond quickly and move out of the way of any danger, as Warlord demonstrated. He's been well trained and cared for. This has been very interesting and I have always been fascinated with Medieval history. Thank you. I love your videos.
Concerning the "horseman without armour": I think this might be relevant in case it is not an anticipated battle, but more a surprise skirmish. It would take too long to get into armour, but it only takes a few seconds to grab a lance/spear ... assuming one still wants to fights and not flee (or maybe retreat and regroup is not a viable option).
Or things like scouts or raiding parties, or bandits etc. No armour might also not mean no armour at all, just nothing that will stop a spear, and so not plate. I honestly think there are so many minor gaps in our understanding of life in the middle ages, that little questions like (So you can afford a horse, but not armor? If you are going to be fighting, why wouldn't you wear armor, if you could afford it?) leave us scratching our heads, but must have very simple answers that don't come up in any of the material we have. I just imagine all the context and nuance of our time, and all the things we don't write down or really go into detail about, and then I imagine trying to piece together our society from some materials we have, and it leaves me assuming we are way off about very simple things about the world at that time. Maybe there was a whole regional culture/group of lightly armored (as in just layers of clothes) horse fighters, that we just weren't aware of. Or maybe some felt just being mounted and armed, while lightly protected was enough for non military escort duty. I don't know, do we have a lot of info about what a minor mounted guard in a security capacity for say a party of merchants, or travelers would wear?
Lurklen the thing about lightly armored horsemen is that they wouldn’t survive particularly long, especially because of bows. Cross bows and long bows aren’t effective against plate, but can punch right through mail and gambeson
@@Specter_1125 As usual I suspect that depends on context. I have a feeling that mounted crossbowmen were not very heavily armoured, and light cavalry has been a thing for ages, though the question of exactly how armoured up those individuals were is something that I would guess depends on the context of their use, and the time in which they existed. The context of my comment was in small group mounted combat. I'm wondering what it wss like outside of the major battles, and outside of a full scale conflict. Were there riders who forsook armour (or at least were armoured very lightly) but were still forming a mounted guard? The examples I used were scouts, mounted guard for a something like a merchant caravan, or possibly raiding parties getting provisions as part of a larger army. Other examples of lightly armoured riding parties now that I've thought on it more, could be many of the light cavalry used in desert countries, mounted messengers going through enemy territory, or lower end freelancers. (Again, when I say no armour, I generally mean no heavy armour, so likely layers of cloth, or padded coats and the like.) I'm also fairly sure muc of the cavalry of the Roman era (earlier than later) were pretty lightly armored, and they were dealing bows, and some weapons not too dissimilar from crossbows, so I think it's more about application of horse riding fighting men to the right task, rather than all fighting men on horseback were armored up. (I mean no matter the era, unless you have your horse kitted out in full coverage armor, cavalry is never going to love being shot at by missile fire, because they can't do their job without their horse, and horses are not missile proof.)
@@Lurklen medieval 2 total war had hobilars/border horses and other light horses for western european factions, and we have information that French gendarme lances' have "Mounted Archers" that fight mounted with lesser armour as well. There seems to be less-armoured cavalry contingents in late medieval armies but not as celebrated as knights/man-at-arms and expensive crossbowmen/Longbowmen/pikemen
I love this. It’s like learning a dead language with no course or dictionary. Experimental (or should it be described as experiential?) archaeology at its best and simplest!
This was amazing! I would love to see an experiment that took the speed of the horse into consideration. The length of the lance with the speed of the horse could make these techniques extremely difficult. The time someone has to parry a lance decreases significantly as lances get shorter and/or horses get faster as the horses head creates an impediment to the parry and one would have to potentially parry a charging lance in a hundredth of a second at full speed which could prove detrimental to the foot soldier.
This was such an intriguing and thoughtful video. Dr Guy Windsor makes an excellent point about not trying to straitjacket the fighting terminology into a specific and very prescribed or formalised move. On the battleground, it's very much a case of doing what works. I wonder whether the speed of an actual encounter - the horse approaching at full gallop - would make much of a difference perhaps in the footed soldier's ability to strike after pushing aside the spear. Jason, thank you for this; it's only in nutting out the moves that we can really make sense of some parts of the fighting manuals. You always approach this sort of thing with a modest aspect, an enquiring spirt and a great degree of care for the spirited creatures that you ride. Warlord was superb in keeping his cool and restraining his ardour for a joust - and of course his handsome head and lineaments make him a joy to watch, even when he is taking things at an easy walk or gentle little canter.
Love seeing the more historically accurate methods than what we see in movies, ect. Watching the conversation, love how Warlord @ 23:00 showing his sweet side...looks like he's grooming you.😁❤🐴
@@ModernKnight That would be terrific. You both bring different knowledge sets and perspectives. It's fun and insightful to watch you figure out these historic fighting techniques.
This is like watching two blokes debate Ikea instructions, only with stabbing things.
Thank you for this.
😂😂😂😂 by god you're right.
exactly xDD
"We're volunteers. Warlords a conscript" that line had me roaring
I like the way he thinks.
Warlord: *Looks at you* Who are you calling a conscript?
Roaring? Really? It's not even an actual joke
@@ivanasukjadic1423 i thought it was funny. Eat me.
"Oh boy, my owner is doing that thing again where he pokes things with sticks." I love how as soon as the horse realises the lance in his peripheral vision is couched it's time to rock. What a good boy!
in all honesty its possible that Warlord is having just as much fun with the whole affair as the rest of the crew.
The info is fascinating, but Warlord steals the show, such an intelligent and well trained horse.
His name works out!
That's what happens when you treat animals with respect they deserve.
i'm barely 20 mins in and the fact he seems to understand the difference when his rider is holding a "spear" vs holding a "lance"
@Stefano Dawg Jason Kingsley, the guy riding the horse, trained the horse
He nods when someone says something good.
My 7 year old son is absolutely addicted to you and your horses and all of your videos and he loves the Middle Ages too. I am an archaeologist and I would like to thank you for being so realistic about the way life really was at the time. Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Cheers
Your son's gonna grow up a fine lad
I wish I could've learned these informations at a much younger age, so glad technology gives easy access to informations like these
I've started watching with my 12 year old. He really likes the series (particularly the combat oriented stuff lol)
@@One01Zero as any good 12 year old should!
7 anni e capisce l'inglese così bene?
Complimenti!
Jacopo Del Bo' eh magari!!!! Glielo traduco io ma a lui piace un sacco anche solo guardare
"Warlord, this is not dangerous. Or edible." This is a pretty good summation of a horse. lol.
Horses are scared of only two things: everything that moves and everything that doesn't.
insaneweasel1 ???
@@johnlamb95 r/woosh
quite tasty, in fact, a bit dangerous at times
the horse, of course
Amazing! I swear that Warlord is studying just as hard as you guys are. He's constantly checking on his companion and considering how to protect him against the ground attack. He didn't show any signs of concern for his own well-being. He would have been a fine soldier, that horse.
Although he didn't like him letting the other man make loud noises RIGHT beside his ear. No, not once.
@Colin Killian clearly you've not spent much time around animals
LOL if horses didn't look out for anything, they would not exist. You are confusing a sensitive, reacting animal with a lounge chair... why the contempt?
@Colin Killian animals are much more intelligent and interested in survival than credited with
@Colin Killian true enough, but often what's dangerous to the horse is dangerous to the rider too.
Im only 10 minutes into the video. I really like how your showing how you two are reading the book & figuring it out on camera.
Thanks for sharing, very interesting stuff.
That's something that stands out to me as well. I love the honesty and rawness of these videos. It's a wonderful teaching approach and so much better than watching highly scripted educational videos.
The most fascinating part is that the horse must now be trained deal with more things than just running in a strait line for a joust. It's like the horse effectively is learning martial arts as well, in its own way and participation.
Warlord is the star of this piece, you guys are the stunt men.
If I may, I think another thing that's 'saving' Guy is Warlord was starting to anticipate the clack of the lance. You can see after about the third or fourth time, he starts to move away a bit as you make your approach, which gives Guy more room to maneuver. I think that with practice and holding Warlord on a steady line, Guy will be forced to move away to perform his counter.
As always, love watching your videos, and give Warlord an ear scritch or two for me! XD
yes you're right, Warlord was learning to anticipate.
So I am a real-life martial artist, I even used to teach karate. Ive been in many classes with many instructors, with people of various experience ranging from complete novice to expert. How you guys approached this subject is exactly how all real martial artists approach fighting and likely how the knights and men at arms face it as well. It usually starts with something simple, in this case you guys looked at a parry-counter, a very easy concept that can be taught in about 5 minutes. From there questions get asked which leads to more questions. Ive been in classes and taught classes where only one technique was taught, then people started playing with it and asking questions and soon everyone had something completely different from the original lesson. I think this is one reason the old fight manuals were so vague at times. They werent a comprehensive guide to fighting, but rather an overview of concepts and strategies that fighters then took and played with and came up with their own things unique to them.
That's definitely something. I think that there's also a case of where it's not expected someone to learn on their from the manual necessarily but to be taught from it by someone who already knows the material.
@@Riceball01 and the manual serves as a reminder
@@jomess7879 Exactly.
Brilliant observation. I never thought of it quite like that before.
What I find fascinating is that this is a manual from a time when they were used to teach combat techniques to people who would actually face death in combat. So everything you say really takes hold. If you were preparing for a true life and death situation you would want to be as thorough in your training as possible. You would want to ask real question and anticipate real behaviors. This type of training is the only way I can think of to get there. You can't exactly have the enemy politely offer to do a few trial runs to see if your sterile practiced techniques are valid in the real world.
This is great, just watching u guys work through all of this. No fancy camera edits, or crazy music, it's as if I'm literally sitting there next to u guys just watching all of this.
Exactly!
It's how they trained back then so it's really great to see it like that. Like you were sat on the side watching 2 knights train and figure out ways to fight! I agree, it's super relaxing and I could literally watch it for hours! Just fascinating to see how they actually did things rather than it all being all killing and drama like in most documentary shows and movies and such!
"It's a sword...mmmm." Has got to be the best line ever.
I love this channel so much.
haha Yeah that cracked me up
-"Gentle contact"
BONK goes the head
-"... Perfect !"
15:20 wow, that was some amazing calm on Warlord's part. He tossed his head a little, but that was as much response as he gave to a loud clack right by his head and a shaft passing right by his ear. That is an incredibly well-trained horse.
I imagine a group of ancient warriors all standing around having the exact same debate upon their first few battles with concentrates cavalry force. Quite the image to have.
Most guys might only fight one big battle in their whole lives as well.
Love the way Warlord is always part of the conversation
Warlord is truly a steed befitting a knight - he shows his quality beyond measure!
I really like seeing you working with spears here, especially on foot. I think a lot of the historical channels focus a lot on swords because swords are popular today. Yet spears and polearms were used a lot more on the battlefield than the sword, and when we see people looking at the original documents and using them competently we can see just how superior a good pole arm can be compared to an arming or even long sword.
Man, this was seriously super fascinating like modern reenactment and archeology. I'm glad that your 'scholar' in this case I believe was comfortable with your horse. I would have been terrified, but he knew the script and interpretation well. He saw how the horse reacted under very slow speeds. Obviously, the cacophony of noise wouldn't bother a warhorse in the thousands as it did singly for an off-shoot warhorse breed. Super cool!
Very impressed by Mr Windsor's handle of Medieval Italian, albeit with a very English pronunciation.
Thank you for teaching us about Fiore dei Liberi on your great channel.
I have to say I really love how well you treat Warlord and make his safety a priority. Really fascinating exploration, it turns out the manual is near me (at the Getty) and I can’t wait to check it out.
Jason: "Right, we're going to invite this chap over to VERY GENTLY show him how we fought back in the day."
Warlord: "Master COME ON, we could kill this clown ten times over with THIS VERY STICK if you'd just let me go a bit faster. Oh ALL RIGHT I'll behave, I'll behave."
Squire: My Lord, it seems you and your horse have created quite the bond. When will I get to do that?
Jason: When you're ready, my squire. Go to the mead hall and buy yourself a drink will you?
Squire: My Lord.
Underrated comment alert!
Makes me realize how important horse training back in those days must have been. Not every horse would be cut out for this sort of stuff.
This sort of content is severely lacking in other youtube channels. Seeing the process of working out the techniques from original source material and then the discussion that comes from actually performing it is amazing. Warlord and the other horses are fantastic and it is wonderful seeing them work. I hope to see more in depth discussion and demonstrations of combat in the future. Overall this channel is fantastic and I hope to see these videos continue for a very long time
As a Fioreist this is great to watch. Equestrian HEMA is just too expensive for me to experiment with so it's great to watch someone else who can do it.
Gorgeous work. Just gorgeous. I would most definitely agree that standing against a charging steed, with armored knight, steel tipped lance, and murder in their eyes....would take balls of steel. Or at the VERY least, years of training and a huge dose of confidence IN one's training. Not to mention needing to be quite smart about your battlefield decisions - split second reactions would be absolutely necessary at full speed, wouldn't it?
Warlord was indeed a very, very good boy in this endeavor. He did NOT like that noise right beside his head, certainly, but he also didn't react half as badly as he could have. I can't imagine poor Talos would have been able to deal with this experiment quite so handily. He's just not used to that kind of thing, yet! I was also impressed that Warlord did not - well, lose his temper I guess? That might not be the correct term. I've heard stories once or twice, about war horses getting upset in a different way - most horses flee, but there are those times when "flight" seems not an option for whatever reason to them, and then things go pretty badly for someone. Maybe the horse, but more often the humans; the specific stories I'm recalling involved a particular stallion who tended to bite when he was upset. Perhaps of use on a real battlefield, not very helpful in training or re-enactment! Though I will note, this animal was also not of "standard" stock, he was technically a Quarter Horse, with a lot of Mustang in there; and he had a temper to begin with. I believe his owner always said training with that horse was "lively." Knowing more about this than I used to - I no longer think he meant lively in an amusing way!!
Wonderful video - thank you so much for continuing to share your experiments and experiences with us!
"we're volunteers, the horse is a conscript" lmao
i love the rapport between them
What a beautiful calm horse,he seemed to be hanging on your every word when you was sat at the beginning.I can't imagine how long it took to get him to this stage,very well done.
PLEASE hold lessons or experience days! I would love to come and live in the middle ages for a day, cooking, learning to fight, hopefully pet a lovely horse! I bet millions of people would love that
Warlord is amazing! And this video is really informative. 👌
It's a great film. Feels true to life.
Did he say what breed he is?
Agincourt would have been a line of horses charging. no where to "step" when that occurs. I always figured they dismounted because of the muddy terrain which is often mentioned?
one things for sure, warhorse training must have been a very important career, much in demand.
@Jon Goat interesting. thanks.
Yes, the muddy terrain & the greater vulnerability horses have to arrows.
I heard somewhere the English also had stakes set up that would mitigate a cavalry charge.
@@tomaszlosinski875 The vaward 'battle' of the French advanced on foot and after a long slog through clay mud were reputedly exhausted by the time they had closed with the English line, as well as being funnelled by a narrowing field into an unwieldy mass. Being accustomed to fighting on horseback many were simply not battle fit.
This is true, but would be made up for in the fact that an English schiltron would have presented a lot of spiky bois at those horses, making it very likely something's going to get impaled if it charges in headlong.
There was a small cavalry action at Agincourt, it just wasn't very effective because of where the English set up and because of the stakes and ditches etc. they dug in.
It was so cool to see you guys working it out. I appreciate that you left in so much of the discussion.
This was mad! So cool to see two guys like "Wanna attack me on your horse now?" "Sure hang on I'll go get him!"
Also Warlord might be the best trained horse I have ever seen. Such a cool video.
I greatly appreciate this 'just sitting on the side' watching you figure out and learn. You share valuable insights, and a lot of it is in your dialog, the way you debate and theorize and then give things a try. For me as a writer this is great to from a picture of how training people and horses for defense and combat situations might work. I am very thankful!
The French dismounted because the English set up their defense across a muddy field, with dense forest on either side. They also dug trenches and put up stakes on both flanks and stationed their longbows behind them. They left the center open, stationing their foot knights there most armed with poleaxes and cavalry destroying polearms. It was a horrible decision to charge the English in that position. The English were not playing by the "rules" of lining up on open fields and deciding the battle with a cavalry charge.
"Some fight to win. I fight to kill."
We few, we happy few
I love this kind of video where you (especially with a friend) are just messing around figuring things out.
I never miss a video. The informality, but serious inquiry makes them all the more enjoyable. This is clearly one of the best you've done. Yea, yea...the horse did good too.
Doesn't Warlord look particularly handsome today! Such a beautiful bit and bridle today.
Warlord is a very good horse. I hope you gave him his favorite treat to reward him for such good work!
The horsemanship in your videos is amazing!
Awesome video! I love how you both really break it down and brainstorm all the scenarios, angles, and possibilities. Not only is this extremely informative, but it's also great fun! Please keep videos like these coming! 👍🏼
That is a very good boy! Wow. The level of trust Warlord has in you is something special.
Aaaaaaand... Warlord steals the show! What a good boy!
Oh, and you humans were good too. It was very interesting to see how the illustrations and instructions played out in practice. I think that you were both insightful, from the two perspectives of the situation (in my totally amateur point of view anyway). And it looks like you both had a lot of fun! Great video!
*It should be mandatory for Hollywood directors to watch this video!*
I can see so many things that need to be changed in movies.
REAL combat, I think, would look much more interesting than movie nonsense.
There is a lot to learn here!
while interesting, i think that we have been trained in Holywood fights/"martial arts" so seeing something accurate and realistic would, in fact, look weird instead
IMO the problem is real combat does not look good on camera. My experience is that 1) it is so fast that only those of us with training know what happened; and we're only a small segment of the movie watching population so we don't make Hollywood enough money. 2) Real combat is brutal, again the majority of the money contributing population would not likely enjoy watching fast, technical fights resulting in truly traumatic, often disgusting injuries.
@@RodneyConroy All my friends who actually trained prefer Bruce Lee. I respect him but I like watching Shaw Brothers movies way more.
I wish I could “Like” this video more than once! I’ve long been a fan of Guy’s work, & it was great seeing you both work together on this.
This is absolutely GREAT! Best channel on youtube at the moment!!!
thanks.
Warlord was so motionless, with a sheen around his edges, I thought he was a cutout graphic. Then all of a sudden, woah!
Lovely guest appearance! I enjoyed watching you both bounce ideas off eachother and the trial and error approach of interpreting the fight book. What a treat!
It feels like a lot of techniques being shown would be in the post-charge melee where the horse's momentum would be a lot slower. I saw that some assumptions were being made that the rider would be able to be struck even at a higher speed but it doesn't *seem* likely.
While the manual is very dismounted combat orientated, it's almost certain that there are more mounted techniques to counter foot combatants.
It's all very interesting! Great video.
The thing is, once you've read that far in the manuscript you already know most of the principles of the system, just apply them on a horse. Look at the lanza vs lanza section, there's a sum total of 2 techniques (with one counter.) That's because once you get to that point you've already come through things like half-swording and pollaxe to deal with breaking weapons to the ground, or getting tangled up on the middle of the lanza.
The treatise is either 1. a presentation piece of 2. a study guide, not an exhaustive manual on each section's fullest extent of techniques.
this is the absolute best medieval indoor riding arena I have ever seen!
I just took a fall going full speed on a horse in my light armor kit and separated my shoulder joint. I look up to you as a knight so very much and hope one day to be as skilled as you through training one day!
Excellent video, War Lord is one in a million. Truly a fine horse.
Great to see Warlord again, I missed him.
He is such a good boy ❤
As a Fiore nerd, this is one of the coolest videos in existence. Kudos to all three parties involved!
Dr. Guy Windsor has my utmost respect for his ability to break down/read that manual.
Really interesting to see you guys working through it all and getting the experience.
Wow, that was an enthralling video! I'm so impressed with how focused Warlord is. I think all the horses I've ridden (dressage) would've thrown me off and galloped away if there was swords being swung near them.
Love how these guys are passionately discussing the topic
Fun fact: He's a CEO of a company that created the game Elite Sniper and also other things like movies.
Had no idea why I loved this guy- now it makes even more sense!
Expert on medieval life. Makes games about modern day snipers. -_-
Elite Cavalry: Slow motion image of a lance skewering a testicle. Kickstarter!?!? >XD
@@Tom_Quixote are you annoyed he does what he wants? You're pathetic
Amazing. What a guy.
This was absolutely fascinating. Guy made a good point when he said it's easy to parry while using sticks at slow speeds. Swap the sticks out for deadly weapons and a 30mph armored charge, and I think he'd have much more difficulty surviving.
Superb work and channel. Thank you
Once a horse and rider, or in this case, knight. The horse will do what his master motions for him to do.
A well trained horse will respond quickly and move out of the way of any danger, as Warlord demonstrated.
He's been well trained and cared for.
This has been very interesting and I have always been fascinated with Medieval history.
Thank you. I love your videos.
The secret to success " read the whole book".
My favorite part: "Get out of the way, you stupid man!" Good advice from the war masters of ages past :)
Thank you very much for this interesting video, sir.
Warlord is so brave and beautiful.
I love the discussion-like format. Very entertaining and insightful video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Guy freaking Windsor?!?! Omg thats awesomee
And its about mister Fiore :))) how can this be more awesome
Defenetly if you can do this more often it would be quite valuable learning experience for both of you and for us as well
Hi Jason, that was absolutely amazing! You guys should totally collaborate more often! It was fun watching you two have fun!
Thanks, they take more organising though.
Concerning the "horseman without armour": I think this might be relevant in case it is not an anticipated battle, but more a surprise skirmish. It would take too long to get into armour, but it only takes a few seconds to grab a lance/spear ... assuming one still wants to fights and not flee (or maybe retreat and regroup is not a viable option).
Or things like scouts or raiding parties, or bandits etc. No armour might also not mean no armour at all, just nothing that will stop a spear, and so not plate. I honestly think there are so many minor gaps in our understanding of life in the middle ages, that little questions like (So you can afford a horse, but not armor? If you are going to be fighting, why wouldn't you wear armor, if you could afford it?) leave us scratching our heads, but must have very simple answers that don't come up in any of the material we have. I just imagine all the context and nuance of our time, and all the things we don't write down or really go into detail about, and then I imagine trying to piece together our society from some materials we have, and it leaves me assuming we are way off about very simple things about the world at that time.
Maybe there was a whole regional culture/group of lightly armored (as in just layers of clothes) horse fighters, that we just weren't aware of. Or maybe some felt just being mounted and armed, while lightly protected was enough for non military escort duty. I don't know, do we have a lot of info about what a minor mounted guard in a security capacity for say a party of merchants, or travelers would wear?
Lurklen the thing about lightly armored horsemen is that they wouldn’t survive particularly long, especially because of bows. Cross bows and long bows aren’t effective against plate, but can punch right through mail and gambeson
@@Specter_1125 As usual I suspect that depends on context. I have a feeling that mounted crossbowmen were not very heavily armoured, and light cavalry has been a thing for ages, though the question of exactly how armoured up those individuals were is something that I would guess depends on the context of their use, and the time in which they existed.
The context of my comment was in small group mounted combat. I'm wondering what it wss like outside of the major battles, and outside of a full scale conflict. Were there riders who forsook armour (or at least were armoured very lightly) but were still forming a mounted guard? The examples I used were scouts, mounted guard for a something like a merchant caravan, or possibly raiding parties getting provisions as part of a larger army.
Other examples of lightly armoured riding parties now that I've thought on it more, could be many of the light cavalry used in desert countries, mounted messengers going through enemy territory, or lower end freelancers. (Again, when I say no armour, I generally mean no heavy armour, so likely layers of cloth, or padded coats and the like.)
I'm also fairly sure muc of the cavalry of the Roman era (earlier than later) were pretty lightly armored, and they were dealing bows, and some weapons not too dissimilar from crossbows, so I think it's more about application of horse riding fighting men to the right task, rather than all fighting men on horseback were armored up.
(I mean no matter the era, unless you have your horse kitted out in full coverage armor, cavalry is never going to love being shot at by missile fire, because they can't do their job without their horse, and horses are not missile proof.)
Or just youthful miscreant nobles going around causing trouble with each other!
@@Lurklen medieval 2 total war had hobilars/border horses and other light horses for western european factions, and we have information that French gendarme lances' have "Mounted Archers" that fight mounted with lesser armour as well. There seems to be less-armoured cavalry contingents in late medieval armies but not as celebrated as knights/man-at-arms and expensive crossbowmen/Longbowmen/pikemen
I love this. It’s like learning a dead language with no course or dictionary. Experimental (or should it be described as experiential?) archaeology at its best and simplest!
This was amazing! I would love to see an experiment that took the speed of the horse into consideration. The length of the lance with the speed of the horse could make these techniques extremely difficult. The time someone has to parry a lance decreases significantly as lances get shorter and/or horses get faster as the horses head creates an impediment to the parry and one would have to potentially parry a charging lance in a hundredth of a second at full speed which could prove detrimental to the foot soldier.
Good video. Interesting practice demo and Warlord- what a fine, intelligent and well trained horse. Thank you!
Our pleasure!
This was a fantastic video and I’d love to see more about the techniques used. Keep up the great work!
Fabulous practical research! Thanks to all three of you.
This is so fascinating, im so glad i found this channel
One of the greatest channels on YT. I am so happy I found this
Beautiful horse, and great work at interpretation of this manual!
You consistently provide enjoyable and informative content. This is easily one of my favorite channels. Thank you for your time and dedication.
That was great! You guys should do more of them medieval military doctrines
I really enjoyed this video. I’d really like to see more of you with Guy doing fighting stuff. Thank you
“I don’t want to run you over because you’d clog my horse’s feet.” Ouch 😣🤣
I mean if you're talking about some peasant levy, the knight's warhorse is literally worth more than the man...
Of all of the things I've seen about medieval fighting, this is the best thing ever. I absolutely love it.
16:36 "There are plenty horses who would've gone the other side of the county by now." Hehe yeah I know a couple of those.
Absolutely. I once knew a horse who ripped itself open from shoulder to knee trying to escape an especially menacing leaf.
This is such unexplored terrain it was a thrill to watch. Please do more.
Also warlord is such a good boy.
absolutely fascinating! you can imagine knights back in the day working on technique exactly like this and comparing notes.
This was such an intriguing and thoughtful video. Dr Guy Windsor makes an excellent point about not trying to straitjacket the fighting terminology into a specific and very prescribed or formalised move. On the battleground, it's very much a case of doing what works.
I wonder whether the speed of an actual encounter - the horse approaching at full gallop - would make much of a difference perhaps in the footed soldier's ability to strike after pushing aside the spear.
Jason, thank you for this; it's only in nutting out the moves that we can really make sense of some parts of the fighting manuals. You always approach this sort of thing with a modest aspect, an enquiring spirt and a great degree of care for the spirited creatures that you ride. Warlord was superb in keeping his cool and restraining his ardour for a joust - and of course his handsome head and lineaments make him a joy to watch, even when he is taking things at an easy walk or gentle little canter.
Jason is displaying the enthusiasm of me testing out game strategy guide with friends.
Knowledge without experience is useless.
Incredibly good fun this video was!
I own the Flower of Battle. A recommended read for anyone interested in Medieval combat, and those interested in HEMA.
How beautiful Warlord is. Fascinating to see mediaeval combat played out too.
Love seeing the more historically accurate methods than what we see in movies, ect. Watching the conversation, love how Warlord @ 23:00 showing his sweet side...looks like he's grooming you.😁❤🐴
I found this informative and entertaining. Yes, I did enjoy you and Guy "rambling on". Thank you.
23:16 Warlord the Fearless White Stallion: *So what do you think kids?*
Absolutely fascinating ... would love to see more collaborations like this!
one day when we can both travel again, it might happen. It was fun to do.
@@ModernKnight That would be terrific. You both bring different knowledge sets and perspectives. It's fun and insightful to watch you figure out these historic fighting techniques.
"gentle contact"
DOINK!!!!!!!
Amazing!! Looking forward to a part 2 of this! Well done!
Warlord is just awesome!!
that horse looks quite fun to keep around
super awesome video. I loved the discussion and both of your theories. You should definitely do more like this.