NO! If you are truly one of God’s own (and I sincerely pray you are!) then it is the LORD who gave you spiritual life - not Ken Ham! Of course, the Lord could have used Ken Ham as His instrument, but the glory goes to God, not Ken Ham…
Evolution was one of the big reasons I stopped believing in God as a freshman in college. I remember watching your debate with Bill Nye, having no background in apologetics, and completely throwing in the towel. I’m so blessed to say that God never gave up on me, and many years later I have come back to my faith! Your videos have helped me understand all those problems I had with science and religion before. Ken Ham, you are a blessing upon the world. Thank you so much!!! ❤
If that's true, then I don't think you understand evolution. Most Christians accept it. Francis Collins, one of the world's foremost geneticists, is an evangelical Christian. He was the Head of the human genome program that decided the human genome. He looked inside the human gene. He said it clearly shows our ancestry isn't human, and we're related to all other life on earth. Is Collins, and all the other geneticists wrong? Has Ken Ham or any creationist decoded the human genome?
@Moist._Robot because Darwinism (common descent) claims bacteria morphed into humans via mutations...it's a full fledged (unscientific) alternative to the Christian faith
Evolution is 100% compatible with the Bible. You just have to understand the Bible in its context, language, and culture. And don't add things to the text which are not there.
@unsightedmetal6857 it's 100% incompatible. God "spoke and it was done, He commanded and it stood fast", and it's impossible to read vast imaginary eons into the generational records from Adam to Christ in the Gospels. Christ refers directly to Adam as well as Noah as literal history
@@Silver77cyn evolution is a fairytale. It’s an idea lacking in the very evidence that is claimed necessary. The Bible is not a fairytale. The Bible states in the beginning, God created the heavens in the earth; Edwin Hubbles, discovery of the red shift demonstrated the universe had a beginning: evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible states God created all living things; the fossil record shows the sudden appearance of lifeforms, without any ancestral forms necessary for evolution: evidence supports the Bible states God stretch out the heavens like a fabric; astronomical observations confirm the universe is expanding evermore rapidly every moment: evidence supports the Bible. The Bible states, sin entered the world, and with sin came death; the fossil record shows the extinction of well over 90% of all things that ever lived on the earth: evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible says the heavens in the Earth are wearing out like a garment; the second law of thermodynamics states, the energy level of the universe is descending to a low common level and complexity is degenerating into chaos (it being understood the universe is a closed): evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible states the mountains were thrust up, and the valleys were cast down; plate tectonics, demonstrates ions, zones, produce mountain ranges, and subduction zones produce deep, rifts, and valleys: evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible states, the waters were gathered into one place, and the dryland appeared; geologist have determined there was once a single giant supercontinent at a single giant ocean: evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible states all things were created by Jesus Christ; Frederick Hoyle discovered the fine-tuning of the universe, and found it convincing evidence that a supreme being had adjusted the laws of physics, so that life is possible in the universe: evidence confirms the Bible. The Bible is not a fairytale.
"Before Abraham was I AM!" Jesus Christ explaining that He is the all eternal G-d head with the Father and the Holy Spirit! No beginning and no ending!
A - "Oh. There must be another more logical, rational explanation." B - "Ok. I'm waiting." A - "Well. I don't know. I just know I haven't thought of it yet." B - "Are you actually going to spend time to come up with one, or are you just saying that?" They always find a way to insert that disingenuous "I don't know" and never manage to really offer a better affirmative alternative, if even any affirmative alternative.
Very well then I would like you to give us a step-by-step process on how Elohim created the universe? What mechanisms were used? If you can't explain with extreme detail on the step-by-step process then you are no better at knowing than anyone else.
@@mustachemac5229 The point is to offer an explanation that's better. It's not a silly game of who knows better. An uncreated God is better than a God that was created, as demonstrated by Ken Ham. An uncaused first cause as opposed to infinite regression that doesn't align with reality.
@@JiraiyaSama86 That doesn't explain anything. If you believe that Adonai was the creator of the universe then how exactly was that done? You don't just get to claim that it was a god but then give no further explanation or just claim that it was a mystery. That doesn't tell us anything. I can easily argue that there doesn't need to be a first cause by claiming that there is an infinite regression. I can easily make this claim because theists like to claim that their god is infinite so why does your god get to be infinite but not an infinite regress? It's called special pleading.
@@mustachemac5229 If an explanation needs an explanation, you'd have the same problem of infinite regression, and reason would not exist. You can't have reason if every explanation demands an explanation. For this universe to begin to exist, the cause has to be spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. God fits that description. You can argue that the universe was eternal, except the evidence doesn't suggest so. Are you saying that theists can't have good reasons to believe that God exists?
To believe as an atheist,you must believe in billions of miracles taking place to get where we are today and they have no problem with it,they just have a problem with THE MIRACLE MAKER,because He has given us rules and there is where the root of the problem lies.
Very well if you believe that Elohim created the universe then perhaps you can give us all a step-by-step process on how that occurred? I mean, I constantly see theists complaining that science can't explain the origin of the universe, consciousness, morals, etc. So please enlighten us.
@@Moist._Robot Well, I think it really depends on how you define yourself as an atheist. Positive atheism is the belief that there are no gods, so technically that would be a belief. Would you agree?
You can’t buy it. It’s a free gift. Plenty of evidence. Creation is proof. No evidence of evolution. “ Big Bang “ is a theory. Ask God and He will show you if you are willing. He loves you
Thank you, Sir. Your voice has reached me in Africa. You are making a difference. Your light is shining. Please keep the light on and thank you for not giving up! May God bless you and your team!
Thankyou Ken for saving me from religion. Your arguments against an old earth were solid and since the evidence against a young earth is overwhelming, there were only two rational conclusions remaining. Genesis and Exodus are all allegory, or made up completely.
I think the big question is where the laws of nature come from,laws that ALL matter obeys,not only here on earth,but throughout the universe.As Einstein said ,"the miracle is,that the universe is intelligible".
Somehow I doubt Einstein said that. I may not know much about the guy, but it just seems kinda shitty to be misquoting or strawmanning a dead guy. Compassion/Empathy, not a creationist trait, I see.
Ken Why did god bother to create the universe instead of continuing by itself? A. It needed to create the universe for it's continued survival? B. It did not need to create the universe for it's continued survival? If B then Why did god bother to create the universe at all? Was it bored being by itself?
I really appreciate your speech; it was so well articulated! When considering Psalm 14:1, it becomes evident that the statement 'There is no God' isn't merely an intellectual assertion but rather a moral one. It stems from a rebellious heart rather than just a benumbed mind.
The only tools of a manipulator are words, only they have no cover in reality. A manipulator lies to you in the direction you want to be lied to, that's all. Everything just depends on what and especially how much you are willing to believe. The moment you stop believing, the story just as suddenly stops existing, because the story had existed all along only in your mind, it made it seem real. Wake up to reality!
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
@@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx Well he was sure of what he hoped for and certain of what he could not see. But check out the KJV version… “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” This to me is gobbledygook. His certainty was evidence of what he could not see??? His certainty was evidence that he was living in a delusion. Although it was very amusing at the time. I’ve no idea how he’d become so confident his carefully picked numbers would win. Needless to say, he’s still living in the same flat playing X Box hoping he wins.
@@Zero-ei8jn The idea that something (God) can exist outside of space and time is one of those assumptions people make all the time. And I don't mind people making assumptions, they should just be honest enough to recognise and admit it's an assumption.
@@charlessmith4242yes as a matter of fact I am, though very distantly. We’re from the same planet, which is more than Ken can claim. 👽No offence meant, if taken? 🐹
Does that really answer the issue? No. All Ham does is repeat a claim the a deity created everything. Is Ham really afraid of saying the words: I am not sure? Maybe the reason he gives the same speech over and over, is fear that any change might mean changing the whole argument. That's the problem so many others have when the "Holy Scriptures" are concerned. Admit one error and it's a green light to wonder what else is not infallible about the "Holy Book".
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
You don't need a god to create a god, just like you don't need a god to create a universe. We have evidence the universe exists. Where is the evidence that any god exists? Why do people choose to believe in 2000+ year old fables when we've spend the intervening millennia learning about how the world actually works?
How does the big bang seem more convincing or realistic than God? How did all the mass and energy get condensed to a point the size of a pinhead, and then suddenly explode? Where did it come from? No one knows, and it is no less unfathomable and supernatural than God. In fact, there being no designer poses more problems than solutions since we are surrounded by complexity while the Universe in the present, post-fall form tends toward a state of disorder.
The fact is that the universe came out of nothing is actually a Christian one. Take Hebrews 11:3, 2 Peter 3:5, John 1:1-3 and Psalm 33:6. Unless you can give me a bottle of words, God essentially created the universe out of NOTHING. I know it's quite popular with apologists who read "A Brief History of Time", this is certainly NOT the scientific consensus here. Mathematically we can approach the "Big Bang" up to 10E-40s - with diminishing certainty. It's true that Hawking is a proponent of the idea that at the very beginning there was a singularity with infinite mass and infinite density, but again - that view is not shared by everyone. Roger Penrose assumes the universe was created by an apparent singularity. One implication of this is that the major events at the "Big Bang" can be understood without unifying general relativity and quantum mechanics, and therefore we are not necessarily constrained by the Wheeler-DeWitt equation, which disrupts time. Others find the question utterly unscientific since all the physics isn't well understood and there is a limit to our observations. Which is a fancy way of saying "we don't know".
Ken another question : Did god make the decision to create time .. in zero time? If yes then how was it a decision? (2 states existed A not decided and thereafter B decided) If god took time to decide to create time then time already existed before supposed god created it.
@@MrGuzmanraNot hardly. Muhammad, or someone, wrote that book out of their head. No inspiration, no nothing. He started with a religion only, but got very few converts. Then he hit upon the idea of jihad with raping and pillaging, and he got converts by the thousands.
The little boy inadvertendly debunked Ken's whole arguement, everything has a beggining.......EXCEPT for this timeless splacess magical invicible genie.
Scientists have no response for this. The speed of light C isn’t constant since the measures of time and distance aren’t constant over larger distances. It’s like changing from 60 kilometers an hour to 60 miles an hour increases your speed. Then if you go from 60 miles an hour to 60 miles a minute it increases your speed even more. This what is happening in general relativity when less gravity increases the measure of distance and speeds up the rate of time over large distances. It also means that the earth is younger than what they claim. The universe doesn’t care about how young the earth is. Actually the changes in time and distance compound the changes in the speed of light. Do a thought experiment. Hold your hands a foot apart representing 186,000 miles saying “one thousand and one” representing one second while pretending to see an imaginary photon going from one hand to the other. Now expand the distance saying “one thousand and one” as fast as you can. You should notice that the speed of the imaginary photon increases the farther away from the center of the galaxy it is.
@@JungleJargon There's time dilation and length contraction. If you knew anything about either you wouldn't have used the term distance dilation. Creationdestroyer might be able to explain it to you. At least he sounds like he knows more about it than I do.
@creationdestroyer69 Yes the speed of light is absolutely constant as far as the amount of gravity that we experience. It’s always 186,000 miles per second. The problem is that clocks don’t always run at the same rate and distance also dilates. Time and distance are never the same unless the amount of gravity is the same and gravity is almost never the same throughout space.
@@ateriana5116 Time and distance both dilate and contract. Time speeds up and slows down. Distance expands and contracts. This is what effectively changes the speed of light.
@creationdestroyer69 I’m not talking about special relativity. It’s gravity alone that changes clocks and measures of distance. Mathematically the speed never changes but it doesn’t matter because the changes in time and distance exaggerate the changes in the speed of light. Do the thought experiment.
As in Acts 28 verse 27, turn and I would heal them, ( as an example in Acts 2 Verse 38) therefore everyone needs to repent confess heartedly and acknowledge Jesus Christ done on the Cross, invite in your heart and accept Him As your Lord and Savior, to receive the assurance of Salvation as in 1John 2:25, to God be the Glory
They don't merely have it wrong, they have it willfully wrong. To wit; ""Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." Richard Lewontin, Harvard Geneticist, Billions & Billions of Demons, The New York Review of Books, Jan. 9, 1997, Pg. 31.
Nice piece of quote mining. That is a thing that makes apologists so disingenuous. The complete quote reads: "Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door. When the wrong question is being asked, it usually turns out to be because the right question is too difficult". Lewontin was not a theist, but as a Marxist, he couldn't support hard core naturalism as well. He firmly rejected Neo-Darwinism, because if nature (and people) weren't malleable then society wouldn't be malleable as well, rendering his ideal society an impossibility. So he was ranting here against sociobiologists and evolutionary biologists who - according to his ideology - were oversimplifying the real natural mechanisms at work. No theist was intended to be harmed. If you'd done your homework and had an open mind, you would have known this. BTW, I'm not a great fan of Lewontins work. On the other hand, other apologists (like Lennox) have misquoted Lewontin (and this quote in particular) as well.
Where does matter come from? a) I don't know. That's a mystery. b) There's a God that refuses to show themselves except for a whole bunch of times over 2000 years ago. c) Pick one of the many other religions in the world.
Rom 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. Rom 1:20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Rom 1:21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. You can see God every day in his creation. You just need to look.
Ken ham can’t explain anything, so he resorts to the classic: “I dunno, therefore god magic. Don’t question it!” We have no reason to value the subjective opinion of an unproven god. That’s neither rational nor has any explanatory power. Belief is never a choice. You’re either convinced of a proposition, like a god, or you’re not.
Anyone who accepts that logic exists, that mathematics describes reality, that every effect has a cause and yet denies that there was a creation of it by a rational Creator just does not recognize the inconsistency of their position. If we try to understand reality, even by denying that it has a beginning we are using reason, a spiritual faculty. Where is it possible that spirit comes from matter with no purpose? If we even the question we are seeking a rational answer which would be illogical if there were no purpose to existence.
I am presently writing a book explaining what quantum mechanics is. Curiously it also explains the structure of the universe. I built a multi-processor system to simulate my concepts. @@wolframhuttermann7519
I watch birds and plants and the sky. I live by a large creek. It is obvious there is an indescribable Intelligence far beyond human . The older I get the more astonishing everything is. Jesus Christ answered my cry to Him in August 1984
@@2l84me8 we all have free will to believe what we want. I believe the first verse in the bible "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". Much love!
@@Hokum48 You haven’t proven we have free will and belief is not a conscious choice we make. You’re either convinced of a proposition or you’re not. You cannot control what you believe in. So why do you accept the bible?
My heart breaks hearing these comments. Romans 1 declares God writes his existence on our hearts and proves it in His creation. It goes on to say everyone is without excuse. So biblically you KNOW there is a God but chose to reject him and not be accountable. Much love! @@2l84me8
We live by faith, it is simple as that. Next, every soul to be saved is written in the book. Our only job on this planet is to first love God with all your heart. Then love your neighbor as you love yourself. After that? All is irrelevant.
Poor Fundie apologists like this will never admit that they've wasted their lives. They'll just keep spouting the same disproved fantasies. Sorry, Ham: there was no worldwide flood survived by a single human family headed by a 600 year-old man in the largest wooden ship ever built holding the largest zoo ever assembled!
@@charlessmith4242 - because there have been catastrophic local floods which affected different areas. If the Biblical flood story were true then we wouldn't know about the other flood stories, because all other civilisations would have been wiped out - so no one left to pass down the stories.
@@Faust2Dr * So the story of Noah's Flood was not passed down? Every story has a beginning, and one as catastrophic as the Flood would have been passed down wherever mankind would have ventured, especially if these civilizations could actually see the evidence of such a flood.
What's funny is that Ham is doing precisely what he accuses non-believers of doing. there must be a god because he can't accept that something just happened. And his argument about the ever bigger god fails because he says it must end with a god that is the biggest and most omnipotent of all. But of course it doesn't have to end. It could go on for infinity. There is no reason why not.
There is no "infinity" for a life that must end. We relate to infinity and believe that there is no limit to it. Everything is bounded, only eternal existence is not. We see the cyclicity of life and death and we have the impression that only this exists, and through these experiences we understand our infinity, but not eternal existence.
@@danstoica2824 "There is no infinity, except the infinity I say there is". Sorry, but that's not an argument, that's an opinion. My point was that Christians have this way of putting up a backstop (God) whereever it suits them. The universe is a finite place, but God is not. The universe requires a designer, but God does not. That's just an arbitrary decision. My point is that if the universe requires a creator/designer, how much more does the creator designer require a creator/designer of their own? To say the universe requires a creator/designer, but that the creator/designer doesn't, isn't really logical. In the regression of a God that creates a God that creates a God, and so on, stopping anywhere is completely arbitrary. There is no reason the regression couldn't go on to infinity.
@@throckmortensnivel2850 * Your questions can only be answered when you come face to face with God, since God did not choose to divulge His history other than to say that He has always existed, and that He created everything that has been created. If that pronouncement is not satisfactory, just wait until you meet Him at the GWT Judgement. Satan would also like to know the secret things of God. That's not going to happen, either.
@@throckmortensnivel2850 * Since you don't believe in the God of the Bible, you won't believe that God wrote a whole book called the Bible, or that He wrote the Ten Commandments. You have that freedom to chose what ever you like, as I do. God has proven Himself to me, and I'm content in my belief.
Creation ex nihilio or out of nothing is not accepted by Islam or Mormonism, and neither is it accepted by Plato whose doctrine was similar. The Greeks posited the idea that matter always existed. Thus the "creation" as they saw it was just the rearranging of matter. Irenaeus in a fragment attributed to him expresses what looks like anger when he reviews that idea; which does no more that suggest that all God does is "push matter around." but does not actually create. This brings to mind Patrick who spoke of the "creator of creation" in order to distance himself from those who looked upon the material world as not having been the result of a decision made by God to create. In other words there may not have been a creation had God decided against the idea and moved ahead with the idea to create. .
He's right that God doesn't need to be created (because He could have an infinite past), but unfortunately his whole argument collapses, since the material world could also have an infinite past, in which case we don't need to postulate an immaterial being to bring the material world into existence (which would actually be anti-explanation, since it would have to be more complex than the material universe it purports to explain). KM needs to study infinity (I'd recommend Georg Cantor).
Particularly Westerners rely on logic and rationale, rather than trusting what our subconscious or unconscious mind is trying to tell us. Our consciousness is the interface between this reality we perceive with our five senses, and the reality outside of our five senses, which is where the soul largely exists. So if we are to know God, and ourselves it’s important to trust, what our subconscious or unconscious mind is trying to tell us. I had an experience a few days ago, I was getting my evening meal ready, something was trying to tell me something, but I was preoccupied trying to get my evening meal ready. I took out a fish from a card carton and put it in the oven, the other fish in the carton I put in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer. I was going to the front door with the card carton to dispose of it in the recycling bin, and just as I was going to open the front door, I felt in my mind somebody shout at me, “Look at the date!”. When I looked at the date on the carton, it showed Dec 2023, so the fish was at least five weeks out of date. I don’t know whether it was God or one of my relatives that had past on, but I’m very grateful. Otherwise, I could have had some food poisoning. After I had chucked both of the fishes in the general waste bin, I place my hands together looked up to the ceiling and said, “Thank you God”. The interesting aspect of that experience I had, the words of, “Look at the date” wasn’t spoken to me, like people speak to each other through sound waves. It was telepathy, the words of “Look at the date!” came into my mind with sense of great urgency.
Ken: "How do we know there is a God?" Ken, the Bible makes claims of Elohim. That is not evidence nor does it give you or anyone else knowledge of such a deity. You are agnostic to a god just like everyone else .... Unless you are gnostic, which is knowledge of the spiritual.(god) I'm fairly certain you would deny being a gnostic so that would make you agnostic. Just to be clear, gnosticism and theism are two different standings. One is belief while the other is knowledge.
@mustachemac5229 You not understanding by default, or simply denying the fact that intelligent design demands an intelligent designer is a presupposition as well.
@@H-D-D It's okay my friend. I know you're mad at the world and the apparent suffering. Everything will be fine once you pass on and return to the Earth. Until then, I'm here for you.
You start by assuming a particular translation of a translation is literally true. Think about how little sleep you lose over not being convinced that another religion's book is literally true and you're one step closer to understanding how easy it is to reject that book.
Just because I am too lazy to study and compare the information available to confirm who made the first motorized vehicle doesn't mean I would ever come to the conclusion that NOBODY made it.
How does God exist for the theist or deist... Through retrospective interpretational evidentualism. Given enough time and faith and scripture anything becomes not only possible but permissable.
You obviously did not do your due diligence! In today's day of technology, you would be able to have all the evidence you need to prove the accuracy and validity of the Bible! Don't be lazy… It will cost you dearly forever!✝️
@@bobbyg1123 Due diligence - LOL. And you're being magical beings in the sky for which obviously there's no evidence. Equally the bible has no accuracy. It says man was created, we know we evolved from lesser, it talks of a great flood, we know that didn't happen, it's wrong about whales being fish and bats being birds. As for its morality: genecide (e.g. crusades, flood), slavery, genital mutilation, misogyny, homophobia, etc.
@@bobbyg1123 "... you would be able to have all the evidence you need" - you don't understand science/technology. "accuracy and validity of the Bible" - LOL
A complicated but credible way of saying that as eternal subject, He defies being an object of human knowledge. He reveals himself in time, of course, in intimate terms, but cannot be grasped by man as an object of detached observation.
@@Mario_Sky_521 I used to puzzle over the eternal divine in my earlier life, before I concluded that it isn't important. One day I was born, and one day I'll die. What is important is how I live my life between those two days. If I live them well, I'll leave behind a world that is perhaps better. If I don't, I pray I will not leave it worse off. It is the god(s) we choose to follow that will make us who we shall be.
It is not known if the universe had a beginning. Big bang only describes the big inflation of the universe, where all of our models and maths fail. The idea that the universe always existed are similar hard to imagine as the idea that god always existed. Replacing "universe" with "god" in that point of view, does not help at all. And even if our known universe was created and had a beginning, this does not mean, that the process that was responsible for that required some supernatural being. I could imagine a multi-dimensional super-universe, that by some process created our 3D+time universe. We will never know, but to replace that unknown with a god is no needed.
@@christophercowan1645 The point is, that there are other options than a god. When you take all the made-up stories on why the universe has come into existence, god is only one of these imagined stories. Yes, anything is possible, even the existence of an universe without a god. BTW: What is the process that god made the universe.
@@gobberwarzen Well, in God's case, we would have to say it is above the natural, aka, supernatural. In other words, if space, time and matter came into existence at the big bang, which is what our current evidence shows. Well, something had to bang it, number one. And, secondly, since those things came into existence then the cause MUST be OUTSIDE of space, time and matter. You will never get a natural cause for the universe. It is not possible. For the simple fact that space, time and matter didn't exist to create space, time and matter.
I don't get how the whole 'god is eternal' thing is supposed to resolve the real issue here- Christians want to pose the question 'why is there something instead of nothing?' as though that's some sort of impossible question for atheists. Well my response is, why is there a god instead of no god? How can you account for god existing? Even if he wasn't 'caused' in the temporal sense, what is the antecedent that is responsible for him existing? Even if you think that, in the absence of god, nothing would exist at all, you still need to be able to explain why there is in fact something instead of nothing.
Quoting the bible doesn't answer the fundamental question. No one knows how the world began, something we must accept for the time being. The fact that some people still insist that the world is only approx 6 thousand years old, despite so much evidence to the contrary, shows that blind faith, although declining in most better educated countries, still exists in 2024. America seems to be the exception, particularly in the smaller country towns where extreme versions of Christianity thrive.
There is no material/physical existence!! The Supreme illusion of the World Mind is that it accepts mortality/form as reality. We must abandon the illusion/nothingness of the personal, physical self and accept the Perfect Spiritual Body of the Kingdom of Spirit as the Only Reality. When this happens, there is no longer anything to fight, to correct, pray to, pray for, or to run to or from!! "My Kingdom is not of this Material World" My Kingdom is the One and Only Spiritual Kingdom! The Kingdom of Heaven Within! Christ(Consciousness)is what we are, and The Christ we are doesn't walk in the world of matter, form, physicality, iniquity, mortality..... The Christ we are walks in the Kingdom of Heaven right here, where no mortal being or carnal mind can reach it!! The Christ we are is Untouchable, and only sees that which is the Kingdom of Spirit/God!! All Illumined Beings Rest in this Principle! We simply misinterpret it through World Mind and Serve the World Mind of Matter without ever knowing it, and this is: The Ignorance of Truth of Being!! No religion has found God, ever!! Only the Mystic has found God because the Mystic knows where not to look! Religion, Philosophy, and Science seek God in the Outer World, hoping for a glimpse of Truth where no Truth Exists. The Mystic knows God is the Realization of Immortality that is the True Essence of Our Being. The Mystic Discerns the Reality of Spirit through the Unreality of Matter. The Mystic knows his State of Being is Incorporeal, Infinite, and Omnipresent. Therefore, the Mystic reaches not for God or Truth, the Mystic Rests in the Realization of it!! I and My Father are One!! The Mystic becomes this State of Awareness, not a Thinker, but one meek unto Divine Thought! The Mystic allows Infinity to be his Thought through Conscious Awareness of Spirit as the Only Presence!! The Mystic doesn't accept Love as a Sensual Emotion. The Mystic Knows Love is a State of Spiritual Integrity! If you are not a Biblical Mystic you are not following the Teaching of Christ through Jesus.... Both the religious and atheistic world interpret this Mystic teaching through the same illusory sense known as human intellect, and this is what the Mystical Manuscript points out to those that are able to Discern it. Religion is born of ignorance, and atheism is born of religion, so what we have here are two sides of the same coin of nothingness. Both turn away from Oneness, from Omnipresence, from Spirit, from God! Therefore, it doesn't matter if your life is filled with religious beliefs, atheistic beliefs, scientific beliefs, murderous beliefs, racist beliefs, gender beliefs, or any other belief that removes you from Omnipresence(Consciousness), it is all the same ILLUSION. The Mystic knows that Satan is the many thoughts constantly racing through your mind that you believe are yours, but in fact come from a World Mind belief in Duality(birth/death....god/satan....good/evil). The world mind is the Father of All Lies to the Mystic, while the thoughts that are constantly tempting us to believe they are real is the Devil. Nothing of this world is taking place, yet to entertain the temptation to believe it is happening is what the bible calls: The Temptation of Christ(yet religion will have you accept a fallen angel named Lucifer is at work, and this is as Erroneous as any mortal belief, and is in fact: ATHEISM)! To sum up every Illumined Being that appeared as mortal man: Surrender to the Force of Immortality(Christ) Within You!!! Peace Be Unto You!
You are such a blessing to me and my family. I am going to be going to the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter this May. My wife and I will be celebrating our silver wedding anniversary. May God bless you. Shalom.
The thing about alien intelligence is that we are aliens ourselves where in this scenario there is not necessarily an infinite regress of intelligences but rather intelligence is a property of nature that evolves over time. We can distinguish between nature that lacks the property of intelligence and nature that has the property of intelligence. It is possible for an intelligence to seed life, even create universes in terms leveraging nature against itself, but it is impossible for the property of intelligence to just exist because it is a complexity that needs time to form. That is why if actual intelligence was required for this universe, advanced aliens would be more plausible than our fantasy Gods/Goddesses.
@@todayslist37737 That is true that God would be an alien. I guess my question would be when does an alien reach God status? If we went back in time with our technology today, there would be people who may believe we were Gods.
@@scottguitar8168 it's just like little children who think their dad is the strongest person alive, until they grow up. Whoever makes you gets to rule you.
You brought me to Christ as a 35 year atheist.
Welcome to the family!
Glory be to God!
Sorry you left 🐹
Welcome home.
NO! If you are truly one of God’s own (and I sincerely pray you are!) then it is the LORD who gave you spiritual life - not Ken Ham!
Of course, the Lord could have used Ken Ham as His instrument, but the glory goes to God, not Ken Ham…
Thank you Ken, always appreciate your videos!
Evolution was one of the big reasons I stopped believing in God as a freshman in college. I remember watching your debate with Bill Nye, having no background in apologetics, and completely throwing in the towel. I’m so blessed to say that God never gave up on me, and many years later I have come back to my faith! Your videos have helped me understand all those problems I had with science and religion before. Ken Ham, you are a blessing upon the world. Thank you so much!!! ❤
How did evolution stop you believing in god?
If that's true, then I don't think you understand evolution.
Most Christians accept it.
Francis Collins, one of the world's foremost geneticists, is an evangelical Christian. He was the Head of the human genome program that decided the human genome. He looked inside the human gene. He said it clearly shows our ancestry isn't human, and we're related to all other life on earth.
Is Collins, and all the other geneticists wrong?
Has Ken Ham or any creationist decoded the human genome?
@Moist._Robot because Darwinism (common descent) claims bacteria morphed into humans via mutations...it's a full fledged (unscientific) alternative to the Christian faith
Evolution is 100% compatible with the Bible. You just have to understand the Bible in its context, language, and culture. And don't add things to the text which are not there.
@unsightedmetal6857 it's 100% incompatible. God "spoke and it was done, He commanded and it stood fast", and it's impossible to read vast imaginary eons into the generational records from Adam to Christ in the Gospels. Christ refers directly to Adam as well as Noah as literal history
Glory, Glory, Glory. Lord God Almighty
Truth!
what is?
Fairy Tales.
@@Silver77cyn evolution is a fairytale. It’s an idea lacking in the very evidence that is claimed necessary. The Bible is not a fairytale.
The Bible states in the beginning, God created the heavens in the earth; Edwin Hubbles, discovery of the red shift demonstrated the universe had a beginning: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible states God created all living things; the fossil record shows the sudden appearance of lifeforms, without any ancestral forms necessary for evolution: evidence supports the Bible states God stretch out the heavens like a fabric; astronomical observations confirm the universe is expanding evermore rapidly every moment: evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states, sin entered the world, and with sin came death; the fossil record shows the extinction of well over 90% of all things that ever lived on the earth: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible says the heavens in the Earth are wearing out like a garment; the second law of thermodynamics states, the energy level of the universe is descending to a low common level and complexity is degenerating into chaos (it being understood the universe is a closed): evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible states the mountains were thrust up, and the valleys were cast down; plate tectonics, demonstrates ions, zones, produce mountain ranges, and subduction zones produce deep, rifts, and valleys: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible states, the waters were gathered into one place, and the dryland appeared; geologist have determined there was once a single giant supercontinent at a single giant ocean: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible states all things were created by Jesus Christ; Frederick Hoyle discovered the fine-tuning of the universe, and found it convincing evidence that a supreme being had adjusted the laws of physics, so that life is possible in the universe: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible is not a fairytale.
"Before Abraham was I AM!" Jesus Christ explaining that He is the all eternal G-d head with the Father and the Holy Spirit! No beginning and no ending!
A - "Oh. There must be another more logical, rational explanation."
B - "Ok. I'm waiting."
A - "Well. I don't know. I just know I haven't thought of it yet."
B - "Are you actually going to spend time to come up with one, or are you just saying that?"
They always find a way to insert that disingenuous "I don't know" and never manage to really offer a better affirmative alternative, if even any affirmative alternative.
Very well then I would like you to give us a step-by-step process on how Elohim created the universe? What mechanisms were used?
If you can't explain with extreme detail on the step-by-step process then you are no better at knowing than anyone else.
@@mustachemac5229 The point is to offer an explanation that's better. It's not a silly game of who knows better.
An uncreated God is better than a God that was created, as demonstrated by Ken Ham. An uncaused first cause as opposed to infinite regression that doesn't align with reality.
@@JiraiyaSama86 That doesn't explain anything. If you believe that Adonai was the creator of the universe then how exactly was that done?
You don't just get to claim that it was a god but then give no further explanation or just claim that it was a mystery.
That doesn't tell us anything.
I can easily argue that there doesn't need to be a first cause by claiming that there is an infinite regression.
I can easily make this claim because theists like to claim that their god is infinite so why does your god get to be infinite but not an infinite regress?
It's called special pleading.
@@mustachemac5229 If an explanation needs an explanation, you'd have the same problem of infinite regression, and reason would not exist. You can't have reason if every explanation demands an explanation.
For this universe to begin to exist, the cause has to be spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. God fits that description. You can argue that the universe was eternal, except the evidence doesn't suggest so.
Are you saying that theists can't have good reasons to believe that God exists?
God spoke and it happened. @@mustachemac5229
So very well said. I have been trying to explain EXACTLY this to people for years.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 They do it out of sinfulness or ignorance. Did you even listen to the video? Do you understand English?
To believe as an atheist,you must believe in billions of miracles taking place to get where we are today and they have no problem with it,they just have a problem with THE MIRACLE MAKER,because He has given us rules and there is where the root of the problem lies.
Very well if you believe that Elohim created the universe then perhaps you can give us all a step-by-step process on how that occurred?
I mean, I constantly see theists complaining that science can't explain the origin of the universe, consciousness, morals, etc.
So please enlighten us.
Atheism isn’t a belief.
Learn what atheism is.
@@Moist._Robot Well, I think it really depends on how you define yourself as an atheist.
Positive atheism is the belief that there are no gods, so technically that would be a belief.
Would you agree?
@Moist._Robot Atheistism is the foundation for their Belief in EVOLUTIONISM and EVOLUTIONISM is the Atheists religion.
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I don’t believe in any particular god.
And I’m certainly not a theist.
Therefore I’m an atheist.
Excellent! Thanks ! I will watch this again and share with many people. Brilliant
Luck has nothing to do with it FAITH. !
You can’t buy it. It’s a free gift. Plenty of evidence. Creation is proof. No evidence of evolution. “ Big Bang “ is a theory. Ask God and He will show you if you are willing. He loves you
Lovely presentation Ken Ham.........blessings and appreciation form Sydney Australia .
thank you ! My Brother , well said
Well said!
I stand unreservedly on the Holy Bible (King James).
I use the CEPHER
Standing on thicker Bibles will make you seem taller.
I love how Ken blasts Nye for saying I don't know, but then just reverts to magic to explain his eternal god.
Thank you, Sir. Your voice has reached me in Africa. You are making a difference. Your light is shining. Please keep the light on and thank you for not giving up! May God bless you and your team!
Thankyou Ken for saving me from religion.
Your arguments against an old earth were solid and since the evidence against a young earth is overwhelming, there were only two rational conclusions remaining. Genesis and Exodus are all allegory, or made up completely.
One vote here for made up completely. Believe at your own peril.
I know this teaching... AMEN, THANK YOU KEN!
You helped make me an atheist, Ken. You and your Ark Experience. Thanks for helping me to open my eyes.
Mr. Ham: blessed are they that run in circles!
Gotta love theists that make unsubstantiated claims while erecting a straw man of science and secular views. Ken Ham is one of the best at it.
He’s is as dishonest and he is ignorant.
I think the big question is where the laws of nature come from,laws that ALL matter obeys,not only here on earth,but throughout the universe.As Einstein said ,"the miracle is,that the universe is intelligible".
You are right.
Somehow I doubt Einstein said that.
I may not know much about the guy, but it just seems kinda shitty to be misquoting or strawmanning a dead guy.
Compassion/Empathy, not a creationist trait, I see.
Ken Why did god bother to create the universe instead of continuing by itself?
A. It needed to create the universe for it's continued survival?
B. It did not need to create the universe for it's continued survival?
If B then Why did god bother to create the universe at all? Was it bored being by itself?
I really appreciate your speech; it was so well articulated! When considering Psalm 14:1, it becomes evident that the statement 'There is no God' isn't merely an intellectual assertion but rather a moral one. It stems from a rebellious heart rather than just a benumbed mind.
The only tools of a manipulator are words, only they have no cover in reality. A manipulator lies to you in the direction you want to be lied to, that's all. Everything just depends on what and especially how much you are willing to believe. The moment you stop believing, the story just as suddenly stops existing, because the story had existed all along only in your mind, it made it seem real. Wake up to reality!
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
That’s a great interpretation I haven’t heard before.
@@Moist._Robot NIV
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I have a friend who was once sure he’d picked the correct lottery numbers.
Would that be the same thing?
@@Moist._Robot Do your own research. I believe it is one of the best translations of the Greek manuscripts.
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Well he was sure of what he hoped for and certain of what he could not see.
But check out the KJV version…
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
This to me is gobbledygook.
His certainty was evidence of what he could not see???
His certainty was evidence that he was living in a delusion.
Although it was very amusing at the time. I’ve no idea how he’d become so confident his carefully picked numbers would win.
Needless to say, he’s still living in the same flat playing X Box hoping he wins.
Outstanding explanation Ken
Keep doing your great work, Ken!
If we as finite beings cannot understand what it means to exist outside of time and space, how can we know it's even possible?
Very good point. Ham is merely making an assertion here, as he so often does.
@@Zero-ei8jn The idea that something (God) can exist outside of space and time is one of those assumptions people make all the time. And I don't mind people making assumptions, they should just be honest enough to recognise and admit it's an assumption.
I liked the arrowhead analogy👍🏻
See you all soon at the marriage supper!! Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!! Harpazo soon!!
Maranatha ❤❤❤
Perhaps today!! ⬆️✝️⬆️
@@bobbyg1123 how awesome that would be ❤️❤️❤️
In Jesus' Name God Almighty bless you Ken Ham for an excellent analysis of the Word of God. May The Lord Almighty's Holy Spirit abide with you, Amen.
This man is a hero of the faith!!
O well explained. People need to accept that they don't know near as much as they think they do.
I know a lot less than you think you know. But not as much as I’d like to and more than you want to. 🐹
@@charlessmith4242yes as a matter of fact I am, though very distantly. We’re from the same planet, which is more than Ken can claim. 👽No offence meant, if taken? 🐹
@@CR-yd4qe * None taken. 😁
Does that really answer the issue? No. All Ham does is repeat a claim the a deity created everything. Is Ham really afraid of saying the words: I am not sure? Maybe the reason he gives the same speech over and over, is fear that any change might mean changing the whole argument. That's the problem so many others have when the "Holy Scriptures" are concerned. Admit one error and it's a green light to wonder what else is not infallible about the "Holy Book".
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
In other words, a book that Ken likes says a thing, so it must be true.
"BuT bOoK tHoUgh!" - Literally any dishonest excusagist like Ken Ham
The thing that I always get wrong are the names of his 2 sons. It's actually Thor and Balder...NOT Loki
(We're talking about Odin, right ? )
I thought we were talking about Ptah. 🤔
Perfectly stated!!!
You don't need a god to create a god, just like you don't need a god to create a universe.
We have evidence the universe exists.
Where is the evidence that any god exists?
Why do people choose to believe in 2000+ year old fables when we've spend the intervening millennia learning about how the world actually works?
How does the big bang seem more convincing or realistic than God? How did all the mass and energy get condensed to a point the size of a pinhead, and then suddenly explode? Where did it come from? No one knows, and it is no less unfathomable and supernatural than God. In fact, there being no designer poses more problems than solutions since we are surrounded by complexity while the Universe in the present, post-fall form tends toward a state of disorder.
Remove the concept of “nothing”(and there really is no evidence for it) and a creator becomes irrelevant. 🐹
@@CR-yd4qe Lol... you think all matter and energy being condensed to a single point is logical at all?
The fact is that the universe came out of nothing is actually a Christian one. Take Hebrews 11:3, 2 Peter 3:5, John 1:1-3 and Psalm 33:6. Unless you can give me a bottle of words, God essentially created the universe out of NOTHING.
I know it's quite popular with apologists who read "A Brief History of Time", this is certainly NOT the scientific consensus here. Mathematically we can approach the "Big Bang" up to 10E-40s - with diminishing certainty. It's true that Hawking is a proponent of the idea that at the very beginning there was a singularity with infinite mass and infinite density, but again - that view is not shared by everyone. Roger Penrose assumes the universe was created by an apparent singularity. One implication of this is that the major events at the "Big Bang" can be understood without unifying general relativity and quantum mechanics, and therefore we are not necessarily constrained by the Wheeler-DeWitt equation, which disrupts time.
Others find the question utterly unscientific since all the physics isn't well understood and there is a limit to our observations. Which is a fancy way of saying "we don't know".
@@deepwaters2334 Lol…. You think that a supreme being appears out of nothing and makes 700 billion galaxy’s (and counting) just for little old you.🐹
@@CR-yd4qe Lol... you think that the whole universe was the size of a pinhead and then exploded for no apparent reason? Sure sounds unlikely!
Ken, Atheists despise one, major principle:
Accountability! 🇺🇸✝️🇺🇸
♥✝♥
Rubbish, I am accountable both to myself and to society at large.
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That sense of responsibility comes from God, because you are his creature.
@@heinpereboom5521
How did you get so deluded?
@@jonathandumbell9384Sure you are... Psalm 14/Romans 1:18-32..
Ken another question :
Did god make the decision to create time .. in zero time?
If yes then how was it a decision? (2 states existed A not decided and thereafter B decided)
If god took time to decide to create time then time already existed before supposed god created it.
Mr. Ham, you get it right EVERY time! God Bless you Sir!
Well said
Amen brother
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence
Actually, most of the people don’t understand what is God because they don’t feel that they need salvation
Scripture denial is history denial.
Are you talking about the quoran?
* Can you explain your comment further.
@@charlessmith4242 the Quran is scripture, right?
@@MrGuzmanraNot hardly. Muhammad, or someone, wrote that book out of their head. No inspiration, no nothing. He started with a religion only, but got very few converts. Then he hit upon the idea of jihad with raping and pillaging, and he got converts by the thousands.
@@MrGuzmanra I am talking about the Bible.
The explanation to the little boy says it all!
Why did God decide to create?
The little boy inadvertendly debunked Ken's whole arguement, everything has a beggining.......EXCEPT for this timeless splacess magical invicible genie.
Amen, Ken. Amen.
Scientists have no response for this. The speed of light C isn’t constant since the measures of time and distance aren’t constant over larger distances. It’s like changing from 60 kilometers an hour to 60 miles an hour increases your speed. Then if you go from 60 miles an hour to 60 miles a minute it increases your speed even more. This what is happening in general relativity when less gravity increases the measure of distance and speeds up the rate of time over large distances. It also means that the earth is younger than what they claim. The universe doesn’t care about how young the earth is. Actually the changes in time and distance compound the changes in the speed of light. Do a thought experiment. Hold your hands a foot apart representing 186,000 miles saying “one thousand and one” representing one second while pretending to see an imaginary photon going from one hand to the other. Now expand the distance saying “one thousand and one” as fast as you can. You should notice that the speed of the imaginary photon increases the farther away from the center of the galaxy it is.
@creationdestroyer69 You just admitted that you don’t know what time and distance dilation means. That’s all I need to know about you.
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There's time dilation and length contraction. If you knew anything about either you wouldn't have used the term distance dilation. Creationdestroyer might be able to explain it to you. At least he sounds like he knows more about it than I do.
@creationdestroyer69 Yes the speed of light is absolutely constant as far as the amount of gravity that we experience. It’s always 186,000 miles per second. The problem is that clocks don’t always run at the same rate and distance also dilates. Time and distance are never the same unless the amount of gravity is the same and gravity is almost never the same throughout space.
@@ateriana5116 Time and distance both dilate and contract. Time speeds up and slows down. Distance expands and contracts. This is what effectively changes the speed of light.
@creationdestroyer69 I’m not talking about special relativity. It’s gravity alone that changes clocks and measures of distance. Mathematically the speed never changes but it doesn’t matter because the changes in time and distance exaggerate the changes in the speed of light. Do the thought experiment.
Truth and only truth is absolute.
The truth is what the facts are. Not what a charlatan like Ken ham thinks.
An Almighty God who will throw all unbelievers into the outer darkness where worms never die. Fear Him!
As in Acts 28 verse 27, turn and I would heal them, ( as an example in Acts 2 Verse 38) therefore everyone needs to repent confess heartedly and acknowledge Jesus Christ done on the Cross, invite in your heart and accept Him As your Lord and Savior, to receive the assurance of Salvation as in 1John 2:25, to God be the Glory
They don't merely have it wrong, they have it willfully wrong. To wit;
""Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
Richard Lewontin, Harvard Geneticist, Billions & Billions of Demons,
The New York Review of Books, Jan. 9, 1997, Pg. 31.
Nice piece of quote mining. That is a thing that makes apologists so disingenuous. The complete quote reads: "Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door. When the wrong question is being asked, it usually turns out to be because the right question is too difficult". Lewontin was not a theist, but as a Marxist, he couldn't support hard core naturalism as well. He firmly rejected Neo-Darwinism, because if nature (and people) weren't malleable then society wouldn't be malleable as well, rendering his ideal society an impossibility.
So he was ranting here against sociobiologists and evolutionary biologists who - according to his ideology - were oversimplifying the real natural mechanisms at work. No theist was intended to be harmed.
If you'd done your homework and had an open mind, you would have known this. BTW, I'm not a great fan of Lewontins work. On the other hand, other apologists (like Lennox) have misquoted Lewontin (and this quote in particular) as well.
Where does matter come from?
a) I don't know. That's a mystery.
b) There's a God that refuses to show themselves except for a whole bunch of times over 2000 years ago.
c) Pick one of the many other religions in the world.
Rom 1:19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
You can see God every day in his creation. You just need to look.
You can't be wrong about something that doesn't exist.
Actually agree to everything he says. Hats off
Ken ham can’t explain anything, so he resorts to the classic: “I dunno, therefore god magic. Don’t question it!”
We have no reason to value the subjective opinion of an unproven god. That’s neither rational nor has any explanatory power.
Belief is never a choice. You’re either convinced of a proposition, like a god, or you’re not.
Next week: "What Christians ALWAYS get wrong about Thor and Odin"
Anyone who accepts that logic exists, that mathematics describes reality, that every effect has a cause and yet denies that there was a creation of it by a rational Creator just does not recognize the inconsistency of their position. If we try to understand reality, even by denying that it has a beginning we are using reason, a spiritual faculty. Where is it possible that spirit comes from matter with no purpose? If we even the question we are seeking a rational answer which would be illogical if there were no purpose to existence.
I have been an atheist for over 50 years. After listening to Ken Ham, I am absolutely convinced there is no god!
What are your professional goals for the future?
I am presently writing a book explaining what quantum mechanics is. Curiously it also explains the structure of the universe. I built a multi-processor system to simulate my concepts. @@wolframhuttermann7519
Why do you ask?@@wolframhuttermann7519
The Alpha and the Omega, no beginning and no end.
In Arabic and Persian God is the Alif and the Ya, the first and the last letter of their alphabet.
I watch birds and plants and the sky. I live by a large creek. It is obvious there is an indescribable Intelligence far beyond human . The older I get the more astonishing everything is. Jesus Christ answered my cry to Him in August 1984
Praise the mighty name of Jesus!
Just because you are ignorant to evolution by natural selection, doesn’t mean you can shoehorn in god magic and insist a god was responsible.
@@2l84me8 we all have free will to believe what we want. I believe the first verse in the bible "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". Much love!
@@Hokum48 You haven’t proven we have free will and belief is not a conscious choice we make. You’re either convinced of a proposition or you’re not. You cannot control what you believe in.
So why do you accept the bible?
My heart breaks hearing these comments. Romans 1 declares God writes his existence on our hearts and proves it in His creation. It goes on to say everyone is without excuse. So biblically you KNOW there is a God but chose to reject him and not be accountable. Much love! @@2l84me8
Every Matter in the universe that has LIFE, has a DNA, and every DNA in this universe has a link directly to the Creator, who is God.
We live by faith, it is simple as that. Next, every soul to be saved is written in the book.
Our only job on this planet is to first love God with all your heart. Then love your neighbor as you love yourself.
After that? All is irrelevant.
Poor Fundie apologists like this will never admit that they've wasted their lives. They'll just keep spouting the same disproved fantasies. Sorry, Ham: there was no worldwide flood survived by a single human family headed by a 600 year-old man in the largest wooden ship ever built holding the largest zoo ever assembled!
* Why does every ancient civilization have stories of a massive flood?
Really and of course you were there to observe that.
@@charlessmith4242 - because there have been catastrophic local floods which affected different areas. If the Biblical flood story were true then we wouldn't know about the other flood stories, because all other civilisations would have been wiped out - so no one left to pass down the stories.
@@Faust2Dr * So the story of Noah's Flood was not passed down? Every story has a beginning, and one as catastrophic as the Flood would have been passed down wherever mankind would have ventured, especially if these civilizations could actually see the evidence of such a flood.
Poor you max, because of pride you will be separated from God for eternity...unless you repent for the kingdom of God is at hand!
What's funny is that Ham is doing precisely what he accuses non-believers of doing. there must be a god because he can't accept that something just happened. And his argument about the ever bigger god fails because he says it must end with a god that is the biggest and most omnipotent of all. But of course it doesn't have to end. It could go on for infinity. There is no reason why not.
There is no "infinity" for a life that must end. We relate to infinity and believe that there is no limit to it. Everything is bounded, only eternal existence is not. We see the cyclicity of life and death and we have the impression that only this exists, and through these experiences we understand our infinity, but not eternal existence.
@@danstoica2824 "There is no infinity, except the infinity I say there is". Sorry, but that's not an argument, that's an opinion. My point was that Christians have this way of putting up a backstop (God) whereever it suits them. The universe is a finite place, but God is not. The universe requires a designer, but God does not. That's just an arbitrary decision. My point is that if the universe requires a creator/designer, how much more does the creator designer require a creator/designer of their own? To say the universe requires a creator/designer, but that the creator/designer doesn't, isn't really logical. In the regression of a God that creates a God that creates a God, and so on, stopping anywhere is completely arbitrary. There is no reason the regression couldn't go on to infinity.
@@throckmortensnivel2850 * Your questions can only be answered when you come face to face with God, since God did not choose to divulge His history other than to say that He has always existed, and that He created everything that has been created. If that pronouncement is not satisfactory, just wait until you meet Him at the GWT Judgement. Satan would also like to know the secret things of God. That's not going to happen, either.
@@charlessmith4242 God hasn't actually said anything. Humans have said God said things.
@@throckmortensnivel2850 * Since you don't believe in the God of the Bible, you won't believe that God wrote a whole book called the Bible, or that He wrote the Ten Commandments. You have that freedom to chose what ever you like, as I do. God has proven Himself to me, and I'm content in my belief.
Creation ex nihilio or out of nothing is not accepted by Islam or Mormonism, and neither is it accepted by Plato whose doctrine was similar. The Greeks posited the idea that matter always existed. Thus the "creation" as they saw it was just the rearranging of matter. Irenaeus in a fragment attributed to him expresses what looks like anger when he reviews that idea; which does no more that suggest that all God does is "push matter around." but does not actually create. This brings to mind Patrick who spoke of the "creator of creation" in order to distance himself from those who looked upon the material world as not having been the result of a decision made by God to create. In other words there may not have been a creation had God decided against the idea and moved ahead with the idea to create. .
He's right that God doesn't need to be created (because He could have an infinite past), but unfortunately his whole argument collapses, since the material world could also have an infinite past, in which case we don't need to postulate an immaterial being to bring the material world into existence (which would actually be anti-explanation, since it would have to be more complex than the material universe it purports to explain). KM needs to study infinity (I'd recommend Georg Cantor).
Particularly Westerners rely on logic and rationale, rather than trusting what our subconscious or unconscious mind is trying to tell us. Our consciousness is the interface between this reality we perceive with our five senses, and the reality outside of our five senses, which is where the soul largely exists. So if we are to know God, and ourselves it’s important to trust, what our subconscious or unconscious mind is trying to tell us. I had an experience a few days ago, I was getting my evening meal ready, something was trying to tell me something, but I was preoccupied trying to get my evening meal ready. I took out a fish from a card carton and put it in the oven, the other fish in the carton I put in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer. I was going to the front door with the card carton to dispose of it in the recycling bin, and just as I was going to open the front door, I felt in my mind somebody shout at me, “Look at the date!”. When I looked at the date on the carton, it showed Dec 2023, so the fish was at least five weeks out of date. I don’t know whether it was God or one of my relatives that had past on, but I’m very grateful. Otherwise, I could have had some food poisoning. After I had chucked both of the fishes in the general waste bin, I place my hands together looked up to the ceiling and said, “Thank you God”. The interesting aspect of that experience I had, the words of, “Look at the date” wasn’t spoken to me, like people speak to each other through sound waves. It was telepathy, the words of “Look at the date!” came into my mind with sense of great urgency.
Ken: "How do we know there is a God?"
Ken, the Bible makes claims of Elohim. That is not evidence nor does it give you or anyone else knowledge of such a deity.
You are agnostic to a god just like everyone else .... Unless you are gnostic, which is knowledge of the spiritual.(god)
I'm fairly certain you would deny being a gnostic so that would make you agnostic. Just to be clear, gnosticism and theism are two different standings.
One is belief while the other is knowledge.
Are you alive on earth? That is all the evidence you need. Stop suppressing the truth.
@@H-D-D me being alive on earth is just evidence for me being alive on earth.
The rest of what you said is just presupposition
@mustachemac5229 You not understanding by default, or simply denying the fact that intelligent design demands an intelligent designer is a presupposition as well.
@@H-D-D But there is no intelligent design
@@H-D-D It's okay my friend. I know you're mad at the world and the apparent suffering.
Everything will be fine once you pass on and return to the Earth.
Until then, I'm here for you.
You start by assuming a particular translation of a translation is literally true. Think about how little sleep you lose over not being convinced that another religion's book is literally true and you're one step closer to understanding how easy it is to reject that book.
You are displaying exactly what is being stated by Ken. You descend to absurdity because you despise accountability
When you loose sleep over wanting my truth, you will understand
Just because I am too lazy to study and compare the information available to confirm who made the first motorized vehicle doesn't mean I would ever come to the conclusion that NOBODY made it.
Common sense “GOD sense”
@@estimatingonediscoveringthree Ah yes, that old canard. I'm not convinced by a claim, so it must actually be that I just looooove sinning.
How does God exist for the theist or deist...
Through retrospective interpretational evidentualism.
Given enough time and faith and scripture anything becomes not only possible but permissable.
There are things that will not be answered in this life time.
How about we just say we don't know how life came about instead of believing a 2,000 year old book filled with historical and scientific errors?
Agreed, although abiogenesis is becoming more clear every day
You obviously did not do your due diligence! In today's day of technology, you would be able to have all the evidence you need to prove the accuracy and validity of the Bible! Don't be lazy… It will cost you dearly forever!✝️
@@bobbyg1123 Due diligence - LOL. And you're being magical beings in the sky for which obviously there's no evidence. Equally the bible has no accuracy. It says man was created, we know we evolved from lesser, it talks of a great flood, we know that didn't happen, it's wrong about whales being fish and bats being birds. As for its morality: genecide (e.g. crusades, flood), slavery, genital mutilation, misogyny, homophobia, etc.
@@bobbyg1123 The absurdity of the Bible is manifest.
@@bobbyg1123 "... you would be able to have all the evidence you need" - you don't understand science/technology. "accuracy and validity of the Bible" - LOL
A perfect God created an imperfect world, that makes sense?
A complicated but credible way of saying that as eternal subject, He defies being an object of human knowledge. He reveals himself in time, of course, in intimate terms, but cannot be grasped by man as an object of detached observation.
Please provide proof there is an "outside time."
Congratulations. Your "bigger, bigger, bigger god" lesson does more to disprove the existence of God than support the idea that It does exist.
@@Mario_Sky_521 I used to puzzle over the eternal divine in my earlier life, before I concluded that it isn't important. One day I was born, and one day I'll die. What is important is how I live my life between those two days. If I live them well, I'll leave behind a world that is perhaps better. If I don't, I pray I will not leave it worse off. It is the god(s) we choose to follow that will make us who we shall be.
And you increase the views of Christian videos. Thanks!
@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe You're welcome, if true. But so much of what Christians say isn't.
Your God sure does like to play hide-in-seek Maybe he is just shy, or maybe he just doesn't exist. Now that does make sense!
It is not known if the universe had a beginning. Big bang only describes the big inflation of the universe, where all of our models and maths fail.
The idea that the universe always existed are similar hard to imagine as the idea that god always existed. Replacing "universe" with "god" in that point of view, does not help at all.
And even if our known universe was created and had a beginning, this does not mean, that the process that was responsible for that required some supernatural being. I could imagine a multi-dimensional super-universe, that by some process created our 3D+time universe. We will never know, but to replace that unknown with a god is no needed.
You got off track when you said, i can imagine.
@@christophercowan1645 Why?
@@gobberwarzen because you can imagine anything. Anything is possible. You can't just imagine some process. What is the process?
@@christophercowan1645 The point is, that there are other options than a god. When you take all the made-up stories on why the universe has come into existence, god is only one of these imagined stories. Yes, anything is possible, even the existence of an universe without a god.
BTW: What is the process that god made the universe.
@@gobberwarzen Well, in God's case, we would have to say it is above the natural, aka, supernatural. In other words, if space, time and matter came into existence at the big bang, which is what our current evidence shows. Well, something had to bang it, number one. And, secondly, since those things came into existence then the cause MUST be OUTSIDE of space, time and matter. You will never get a natural cause for the universe. It is not possible. For the simple fact that space, time and matter didn't exist to create space, time and matter.
God is the Uncaused Cause. You can’t go back any farther than the Creator
Ham!
Let's backfire the question: if nature created us, who created nature ???
It is so.
I don't think the Bible says God created time but maybe.
If he did create time and can move around in time reality becomes really hard to understand.
Right on Ken, you explain it wonderfully! God bless you and yours Sir!!
I don't get how the whole 'god is eternal' thing is supposed to resolve the real issue here- Christians want to pose the question 'why is there something instead of nothing?' as though that's some sort of impossible question for atheists. Well my response is, why is there a god instead of no god? How can you account for god existing? Even if he wasn't 'caused' in the temporal sense, what is the antecedent that is responsible for him existing?
Even if you think that, in the absence of god, nothing would exist at all, you still need to be able to explain why there is in fact something instead of nothing.
Amen Ken, thanks for your lifetime ministry.
Quoting the bible doesn't answer the fundamental question. No one knows how the world began, something we must accept for the time being. The fact that some people still insist that the world is only approx 6 thousand years old, despite so much evidence to the contrary, shows that blind faith, although declining in most better educated countries, still exists in 2024. America seems to be the exception, particularly in the smaller country towns where extreme versions of Christianity thrive.
There is no material/physical existence!!
The Supreme illusion of the World Mind is that it accepts mortality/form as reality.
We must abandon the illusion/nothingness of the personal, physical self and accept the Perfect Spiritual Body of the Kingdom of Spirit as the Only Reality. When this happens, there is no longer anything to fight, to correct, pray to, pray for, or to run to or from!!
"My Kingdom is not of this Material World"
My Kingdom is the One and Only Spiritual Kingdom! The Kingdom of Heaven Within!
Christ(Consciousness)is what we are, and The Christ we are doesn't walk in the world of matter, form, physicality, iniquity, mortality.....
The Christ we are walks in the Kingdom of Heaven right here, where no mortal being or carnal mind can reach it!!
The Christ we are is Untouchable, and only sees that which is the Kingdom of Spirit/God!!
All Illumined Beings Rest in this Principle!
We simply misinterpret it through World Mind and Serve the World Mind of Matter without ever knowing it, and this is:
The Ignorance of Truth of Being!!
No religion has found God, ever!!
Only the Mystic has found God because the Mystic knows where not to look!
Religion, Philosophy, and Science seek God in the Outer World, hoping for a glimpse of Truth where no Truth Exists.
The Mystic knows God is the Realization of Immortality that is the True Essence of Our Being. The Mystic Discerns the Reality of Spirit through the Unreality of Matter.
The Mystic knows his State of Being is Incorporeal, Infinite, and Omnipresent. Therefore, the Mystic reaches not for God or Truth, the Mystic Rests in the Realization of it!!
I and My Father are One!!
The Mystic becomes this State of Awareness, not a Thinker, but one meek unto Divine Thought!
The Mystic allows Infinity to be his Thought through Conscious Awareness of Spirit as the Only Presence!!
The Mystic doesn't accept Love as a Sensual Emotion. The Mystic Knows Love is a State of Spiritual Integrity!
If you are not a Biblical Mystic you are not following the Teaching of Christ through Jesus....
Both the religious and atheistic world interpret this Mystic teaching through the same illusory sense known as human intellect, and this is what the Mystical Manuscript points out to those that are able to Discern it. Religion is born of ignorance, and atheism is born of religion, so what we have here are two sides of the same coin of nothingness. Both turn away from Oneness, from Omnipresence, from Spirit, from God!
Therefore, it doesn't matter if your life is filled with religious beliefs, atheistic beliefs, scientific beliefs, murderous beliefs, racist beliefs, gender beliefs, or any other belief that removes you from Omnipresence(Consciousness), it is all the same ILLUSION.
The Mystic knows that Satan is the many thoughts constantly racing through your mind that you believe are yours, but in fact come from a World Mind belief in Duality(birth/death....god/satan....good/evil). The world mind is the Father of All Lies to the Mystic, while the thoughts that are constantly tempting us to believe they are real is the Devil. Nothing of this world is taking place, yet to entertain the temptation to believe it is happening is what the bible calls: The Temptation of Christ(yet religion will have you accept a fallen angel named Lucifer is at work, and this is as Erroneous as any mortal belief, and is in fact: ATHEISM)!
To sum up every Illumined Being that appeared as mortal man:
Surrender to the Force of Immortality(Christ) Within You!!!
Peace Be Unto You!
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out H5186 the north H6828 over the empty place, H8414 and hangeth H8518 the earth H776 upon nothing. H1099
Ken, just explain what you mean by 'outside of time'?
yeh, if god occupies no space, doesn't exist in time, is immaterial, then that would be the same description as 'nothing' .
Ding, lightbulb.
Amen!
You are such a blessing to me and my family. I am going to be going to the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter this May. My wife and I will be celebrating our silver wedding anniversary. May God bless you. Shalom.
You have got to be kidding?
You’re grown adults and still believe in Noah’s Ark? 😂
The bottomline is that sinful nature. The reason why Jesus came to save us who believe. Still many don’t trust in Jesus. What wicked world 😔
The thing about alien intelligence is that we are aliens ourselves where in this scenario there is not necessarily an infinite regress of intelligences but rather intelligence is a property of nature that evolves over time. We can distinguish between nature that lacks the property of intelligence and nature that has the property of intelligence. It is possible for an intelligence to seed life, even create universes in terms leveraging nature against itself, but it is impossible for the property of intelligence to just exist because it is a complexity that needs time to form. That is why if actual intelligence was required for this universe, advanced aliens would be more plausible than our fantasy Gods/Goddesses.
God is not from earth. So God is an alien to an earthling.
@@todayslist37737 That is true that God would be an alien. I guess my question would be when does an alien reach God status? If we went back in time with our technology today, there would be people who may believe we were Gods.
@@scottguitar8168 it's just like little children who think their dad is the strongest person alive, until they grow up. Whoever makes you gets to rule you.
Amen
Excellent, as always. Man-made education is not even a ripple in the vast pool of Divine Truth and Wisdom.
Amen! 😊 What a Brilliant explanation! Thank you for sharing this with us 👍
Sir, you confuse horse glasses with being brilliant....Wake up to reality!
@@ancataut7891 People who look at outward appearances to criticize the substance of a person's argument are not serious thinkers.