It's Christmas in New York. Every time your bell gets rung, your playoff position takes a hit. Fire Laviolette, the fans deserve better. Good luck Rangers fans. I like trade Krider and play Cuylle top 6 and believe in development. Drury did draft well, and you have the tools to be in the playoffs. Good luck, NYC, and Merry Christmas. 🎄
Yes GMs are offering NMCs to players to reduce their AAV but the notion that players and their agents don't factor this into their negotiations is naive in the extreme.They both laughingly feel they've got one over on the other whilst knowing at the same time that they've screwed one another.
and still sucks. 6yrs in the league and he had a wide open cage last night from 2 feet and couldn't burry it. The story of his life is he can't finish. All the puck possession % and bs analytics for XGF% are worthless if you can't finish and esp into a wide open cage. He sucks and needs to go
Here's the thing that keeps nagging at my brain: This team's regression from attention to details, refusal to work the fundamentals ( in all zones), awful turnovers/giveaways and not being prepared ( or maybe focused??): ...has been a problem with our Rangers Core Group ( Kreider, Zibanejad, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Panarin...etc): for five seasons, three Head Coaches ( and coaching staffs). This is a Core group that ran Gallant out of town, claiming because they needed a more hands-on teaching and instructive coaching staff. So in comes Laviolette and his staff. Which seemed to work well, last season. But the Rangers, as they did against the Devils in 2022-23: not only ran into strong, talented cohesive teams; but the Rangers once again stopped working the details/fundamentals. The Rangers barely made it pass the Hurricanes, this past post-season. For the same exact reasons. I do believe, realistically speaking: the accountability goes to the players, the coaching staffs and Drury. All of the above. There's no legitimate reason for a lack of respectful communication: whether you're a professional athlete, a white collar or blue collar worker; poor communication and lack of respect from upper management and Supervisors: has always been a destructive element. Listening to Kakko talk about how the coaching staff scratched him, but Laviolette ( no one on the coaching staff) had a productive, instructive conversation regarding the parts of his game he needs to improve on; is mind-boggling. I don't understand. Makes no sense. But Kakko making those secondary statements: absolutely proves there's dysfunctional, counter-productive problems in the room... ...between the players, the coaching staff and with Drury. It makes me wonder if all this drama and crazy nonsense: is intentional. Because this Core has a long history of simply ignoring the details / fundamentals in big post-season games/ series; then pointing their fingers at the coaching staffs ( i.e. Quinn, Gallant and now Lavi). I don't know. Just sharing my observations and theories...based on what I have seen.
No, as a former collegiate athlete who's been in player only meetings etc, when you feel wrong has been done, and the majority of the team of the shares the feeling. Details and attention to the game, go out the window. You listen to the coach you see the issues, but its not your focus. The ONLY ways this gets resolved is 1: Drury leaves, 2: the players with the problems get moved. Their minds are too distracted with this and consumed by it. Look, they have a cup team, and they don't care, several of these guys are close the end of their career, they will die on principle.
If they "die on principle" meaning that they will play like sh... to make a point they should transition to podcasting and retire at once from playing hockey. Their responsibility goes to the fans who, at the end of the day, pay their salaries. They don't seem to care much about that, do they?
The players will get moved. Except for Mika and Igor and a few others who are playing. As they should. They're not going to get Drury fired. Dolan's not going to go searching for a new GM. And nobody is under the illusion that this is a Cup contending team. It's not. It may have looked close five months ago, but not anymore. Not with a 1C like Mika, who can't stay in shape over the off-season. Not with a head coach who seems like he has CTE. Not with a group of veterans who value playing with their BFFs over strengthening the roster.
First, Kakko will never be "north of 50 points" let alone 80. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong but I have no more expectations with this guy. Second, he had many chances to play on the top lines (Sorry Mike, Kakko got his opportunities and you forgot about that) in N.Y. before and showed only one thing i.e. that he can't finish or even make his linemates better by making great passes. I would be very surprised if he would finally become a "star" in this league with another team and frankly, as a Rangers fan, it would piss me off if he did. That being said I learned nothing from this podcast after 34 minutes. Call me when you decide to tell it like it is i.e. that it looks like yet another mutiny from the players as we have seen time and time again in the past in pro sports. I watch all the games of the Rangers (I know, I'm a bit hard on myself) and nobody will convince me that these players have suddenly forgot how to play competitive hockey and that it is a coaching problem or whatever excuse they come up with. You can beat around the bush all day long but it's obvious that the Rangers, as a group, have checked out. Maybe they will check back in but it looks unlikely at this point.
So interesting listening about the inside of hockey, but the problem of the team not wanting physicality by the coach goes unquestioned. His non usage of Rempe which fans enlarge agree he is a weapon not being used. You talked about the coach but kindly let him off for his failures. The coach has not won since 2006 and was out coached in the playoffs and so on and so forth...
Drury is what this club needs. The players have had too much power for too long. How many coaches are we going to go through before we realise that the leaders of this playing group are a huge problem?
Laying it out. Season ticket holder for over 20 years. I want Messier hired as team president and Quenneville as head coach. I'll trust their hockey knowledge and leadership over Drury any day of the week
The Rangers have a poor recent record of developing junior talent. We’ve allowed ageing lazy seniors to get the lion’s share of the ice time. KK would’ve developed better with more minutes, but he’s having a good season now. Benching him was very stupid.
@sotiriosnovatsis4529 just look at who is running their player development. I don't think Ortmeyer and Glass are the best options. Nothing against them but c'mon.
At what point are the millionaires on ice at fault? Trouba is a bad hockey player, it was correct to get rid of his terrible contract. Same with goody. Was Drury not doing “man2man” talk with him all it took to really destroy this locker room? What absolute nonsense. Stop over playing and complete your roles.
This is like the BS democratic take on the Rangers. Rupp and Colby sticking up for the players who have checked out on the organization because they are a bunch of soft babies. When the majority of outlets, the Republican side, are calling out the players as deserved. We all know the Democrats have been in the minority since Nov 5th so makes total sense.
Colby loves to hate Jonny’s questions 😂 his face was priceless
Its because he's the type of person who likes to hear himself talk.
It's Christmas in New York. Every time your bell gets rung, your playoff position takes a hit. Fire Laviolette, the fans deserve better. Good luck Rangers fans. I like trade Krider and play Cuylle top 6 and believe in development. Drury did draft well, and you have the tools to be in the playoffs. Good luck, NYC, and Merry Christmas. 🎄
Thanks for showing love to Ullmark and the Sens!!
@@Proph3cy the man to thank is Larry Brooks lol since he published the Tkachuck rumors to the Rangers the Senators have been on fire 🔥
@ Ha! good one!
Yes GMs are offering NMCs to players to reduce their AAV but the notion that players and their agents don't factor this into their negotiations is naive in the extreme.They both laughingly feel they've got one over on the other whilst knowing at the same time that they've screwed one another.
Kakko is still only 23 years old.
and still sucks. 6yrs in the league and he had a wide open cage last night from 2 feet and couldn't burry it. The story of his life is he can't finish. All the puck possession % and bs analytics for XGF% are worthless if you can't finish and esp into a wide open cage. He sucks and needs to go
@@albie21121 "The story of his life is he can't finish" INDEED!
You nailed it! Kakko is a bust. No way around that at this point.
It looks like a solid third liner. Obviously that's a major disappointment for a number two overall pick.
Here's the thing that keeps nagging at my brain:
This team's regression from attention to details, refusal to work the fundamentals ( in all zones), awful turnovers/giveaways and not being prepared ( or maybe focused??):
...has been a problem with our Rangers Core Group ( Kreider, Zibanejad, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Panarin...etc): for five seasons, three Head Coaches ( and coaching staffs).
This is a Core group that ran Gallant out of town, claiming because they needed a more hands-on teaching and instructive coaching staff.
So in comes Laviolette and his staff. Which seemed to work well, last season.
But the Rangers, as they did against the Devils in 2022-23: not only ran into strong, talented cohesive teams; but the Rangers once again stopped working the details/fundamentals.
The Rangers barely made it pass the Hurricanes, this past post-season. For the same exact reasons.
I do believe, realistically speaking: the accountability goes to the players, the coaching staffs and Drury. All of the above.
There's no legitimate reason for a lack of respectful communication: whether you're a professional athlete, a white collar or blue collar worker; poor communication and lack of respect from upper management and Supervisors: has always been a destructive element.
Listening to Kakko talk about how the coaching staff scratched him, but Laviolette ( no one on the coaching staff) had a productive, instructive conversation regarding the parts of his game he needs to improve on; is mind-boggling. I don't understand. Makes no sense.
But Kakko making those secondary statements: absolutely proves there's dysfunctional, counter-productive problems in the room...
...between the players, the coaching staff and with Drury.
It makes me wonder if all this drama and crazy nonsense: is intentional.
Because this Core has a long history of simply ignoring the details / fundamentals in big post-season games/ series; then pointing their fingers at the coaching staffs ( i.e. Quinn, Gallant and now Lavi).
I don't know. Just sharing my observations and theories...based on what I have seen.
No, as a former collegiate athlete who's been in player only meetings etc, when you feel wrong has been done, and the majority of the team of the shares the feeling. Details and attention to the game, go out the window. You listen to the coach you see the issues, but its not your focus. The ONLY ways this gets resolved is 1: Drury leaves, 2: the players with the problems get moved. Their minds are too distracted with this and consumed by it. Look, they have a cup team, and they don't care, several of these guys are close the end of their career, they will die on principle.
If they "die on principle" meaning that they will play like sh... to make a point they should transition to podcasting and retire at once from playing hockey.
Their responsibility goes to the fans who, at the end of the day, pay their salaries.
They don't seem to care much about that, do they?
The players will get moved. Except for Mika and Igor and a few others who are playing. As they should. They're not going to get Drury fired. Dolan's not going to go searching for a new GM. And nobody is under the illusion that this is a Cup contending team. It's not. It may have looked close five months ago, but not anymore. Not with a 1C like Mika, who can't stay in shape over the off-season. Not with a head coach who seems like he has CTE. Not with a group of veterans who value playing with their BFFs over strengthening the roster.
I don't see the Rangers winning anymore games in 2024. Brutal schedule ahead
That would be hilarious if they lost out for the rest of the year.
EK also said kakko was the hold up for guenztel. something at ESPN hockey is suspect.
Steve Dangle has exactly zero sources lol.
But why would other NHL players not in the rangers locker room know what happened?
First, Kakko will never be "north of 50 points" let alone 80. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong but I have no more expectations with this guy.
Second, he had many chances to play on the top lines (Sorry Mike, Kakko got his opportunities and you forgot about that) in N.Y. before and showed only one thing i.e. that he can't finish or even make his linemates better by making great passes.
I would be very surprised if he would finally become a "star" in this league with another team and frankly, as a Rangers fan, it would piss me off if he did.
That being said I learned nothing from this podcast after 34 minutes.
Call me when you decide to tell it like it is i.e. that it looks like yet another mutiny from the players as we have seen time and time again in the past in pro sports.
I watch all the games of the Rangers (I know, I'm a bit hard on myself) and nobody will convince me that these players have suddenly forgot how to play competitive hockey and that it is a coaching problem or whatever excuse they come up with.
You can beat around the bush all day long but it's obvious that the Rangers, as a group, have checked out.
Maybe they will check back in but it looks unlikely at this point.
Morning Cup-O-Rangers
Like the 3 echo chamber guys on the Toronto Centric Network
So interesting listening about the inside of hockey, but the problem of the team not wanting physicality by the coach goes unquestioned. His non usage of Rempe which fans enlarge agree he is a weapon not being used. You talked about the coach but kindly let him off for his failures. The coach has not won since 2006 and was out coached in the playoffs and so on and so forth...
What do u mean by the team not wanting physicality by the coach? Is Laviolette hitting them? This makes no sense!
Why does Mika always glide around instead of hauling ass? Enough with the Zoro stick checking too. Take the body!
Why wouldn’t Kaapo potentially be on the move? Scratched and now playing 10 minutes a night.
No way Kreider gets his jersey retired. And I wear his jersey. lol
Drury is losing supporters. Hand him a pink slip.
Drury is what this club needs. The players have had too much power for too long. How many coaches are we going to go through before we realise that the leaders of this playing group are a huge problem?
So let the inmates run the asylum
Doesn't matter. He only needs one supporter. Just one. His last name is Dolan.
Laying it out. Season ticket holder for over 20 years. I want Messier hired as team president and Quenneville as head coach. I'll trust their hockey knowledge and leadership over Drury any day of the week
That’s who I’ve been wanting. Maybe that can happen if Dolan sells. It’s time….
Q was banned and is a disgrace for a reason. And stop making Mess what he’s not. Just because he was a great player doesn’t mean anything
Great job guys! Appreciate hearing this as painful as it is being a Ranger fan.
lmao these goobers take themselves way too seriously
Steve Valiquet woukd still argue Kakko is a better draft pick than Jack Hughes
The Rangers have a poor recent record of developing junior talent. We’ve allowed ageing lazy seniors to get the lion’s share of the ice time. KK would’ve developed better with more minutes, but he’s having a good season now. Benching him was very stupid.
@sotiriosnovatsis4529 just look at who is running their player development. I don't think Ortmeyer and Glass are the best options. Nothing against them but c'mon.
At what point are the millionaires on ice at fault? Trouba is a bad hockey player, it was correct to get rid of his terrible contract. Same with goody. Was Drury not doing “man2man” talk with him all it took to really destroy this locker room? What absolute nonsense. Stop over playing and complete your roles.
This is like the BS democratic take on the Rangers. Rupp and Colby sticking up for the players who have checked out on the organization because they are a bunch of soft babies. When the majority of outlets, the Republican side, are calling out the players as deserved. We all know the Democrats have been in the minority since Nov 5th so makes total sense.
It's a complete shit show . Everyone including management is accountable and no one should be safe.
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