This man is simply amazing. His mastery of all the topics he tackles is incredible. He has this special ability to elucidate highly sophisticated ideas and convey them in a digestible manner. You can’t stop listening to his lectures. Glad to know that he is still alive.
@@metalcomposition Name a university lecturer today who has as broad a base of knowledge as Mr. Sugrue and who can speak coherently on it? If so, please link me to them. His kind simply doesn't exist anymore
@@Cfb8402 that may be true, but for most people (me included) even broad strokes about these subjects can be enriching. also, if you could give an example of a lecturer that offers something intellectually, as you put it, i would appreciate it. i dont mean to come across as confrontational, i'm new to this area of interest and would genuinely like to delve deeper.
@cfb8402 - greetings. Think your observation on intellectual additions is correct. He is a great story teller and synthesizer of known facts. You could have made the observation without the “standard academic self flagellation” comments. Was snide and takes away from your position and correct observation.
@@Cfb8402 appreciate and understand the reply even if not fully agreeing with the underlying assertion. Just getting people to listen and read and move away from video games etc is a winner. Yes, there’s an immense amount of material from the Eastern Philosophers to the middle eastern, early Islamic writings that need wider attention in the West, but it’s a start.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I have listened to your Marcus Aurelius lecture ten times in the past year and a half since I’ve found it. Thank you. I’m grateful for your work.
@@dr.michaelsugrue quid pro quo, you may enjoy our video on the most important (and accordingly the most famous and most quoted) words ever written in English language: the "to be or not to be..." speech from Hamlet. th-cam.com/video/7R5_r2jN1fo/w-d-xo.html
About 6 months ago I discovered the videos of Professor Sugrue. I even took notes from his video lectures. And about 2 weeks ago, I learned that he had passed away because of cancer. I felt deep sadness within me. Rest in peace, professor. Thank you so much for enlightening me, and for sharing your knowledge for all to see.
If and when I ever open a dive bar it’s absolutely going to be called The Cosmic Barmaid. This lecture was epic. The only thing it’s missing is a microphone to drop at the end. RIP professor. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Dr. Sugrue could you please make more playlists on your channel so it's easier to watch a series in the correct order? Also: Thank you for uploading these, they are very informative and enjoyable.
I hope this is not too late! Put, "In Order" into your search parameters. Great topic for Atheists! I only wish there were a god! then we could get rid of fascist politicians like Rump and the Repugnant-KKK-kins. Bring back democracy to America. All saints preserve us!
Part I, Lectures-- The Gilgamesh Epic; Genesis- Introduction to Biblical Study; Exodus- Toward the Law; Job and the Problem of Evil; Isaiah- Swords into Plowshares; Matthew- The New Law; Luke and Acts- From Jerusalem to Rome; John- The Unbroken Net of Scripture; The Pauline Tradition; Revelation and the Eschaton; Augustine and the Christian Self; Meister Eckhart- From Whom God Hid Nothing. Part II, Lectures-- Justice and Poetry- Dante's Book of the Dead; Ugolino- Dante's Last "Sympathetic Sinner"; Cantos I & II of Purgatorio- Typology and Poetry; Utopia- Between Heaven and Earth; Luther and the Reformation; Shakespeare- Measure for Measure; Milton- Paradise Lost; Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism; Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith; Dostoyevsky's The Idiot and the Book of Revelation; Nietzsche and the Death of God; Joyce- From Religion to Art
@@gregorygarcia7807 Some casuistic incontinence happening here. Republicans are not the KKK, nor are they fascists. Trump is a cartoon: laughable and grotesque, but ultimately a feckless pretender. The actual threat to reason and democracy is the ideological tsunami of Wokeism engulfing us as the identity profiteers and language launderers of the radical Left release their bladders all over Western civilization. They are the true authoritarians, and Trump is the monster summoned in response to their delusional and incoherent cultish incantations, and now used strategically to justify their own vindictive, revanchist crusade.
@@willmercury This is also my take as a non-American. The view you replied to seems to be due to many American news companies form an echo chamber together. It's easy to see how media like tv and internet are the shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave allegory. What I found is when fact checking rigorously mainstream media has stuff wrong a lot of the time (when they bother giving their sources). Also many issues, that get presented, get described wrongly and therefore the solution presented to the viewer often makes things worse. Objectivity is dead in legacy media is my conclusion. It's sad but seems like a product of the internet revolution, making cable a dying industry which can pushes companies to adapt, often resulting in shady practices.
Looking Back 1:12 The Bible felt like a work of Another Age 1:51 _The Epic Of Gilgamesh_ informs reading of The Bible 3:25 Versions handed down in ancient languages; absorb and adapt 4:47 Epic Tradition Politics, Ethics, Physics 5:23 Most of society is illiterate, so it is an Oral Tradition 6:18 Epic’s have Journey, Cultural Hero/Moral Paragon. Legitimizes Political Powers. 8:03 Beloved of God/s 8:39 Uruk 9:07 Outside the walls; seeing Ink’idu 10:03 Dreams of a Meteor 10:44 Taming 11:24 Sex-Religion-Society ⚔️ -> Mutual Respect ✊✊ Fight The Monster Umbaba/Huwawa 14:07 Dreams, message from Spirit World 15:06 Ishtar rejected by Gilgamesh 16:11 Send down his misfortune, 7 years of famine, earthquakes 17:12 Divine Frustration 18:07 Inki’du sickens and dies 18:37 Curse Her! Better to die as a man within than an animal outside 19:29 “I’m going to die.” 20:30 King Hukapishkam & His Wife 21:57 Scorpion Men, A Cosmic Bar Maid 23:13 Crossing The Waters of Death 24:00 All Must Face Death 25:04 Sleep is Symbolic Death 26:38 Tell him about Eternal Life 27:29 Plant of Eternal Life 🌱 The Snake ate The Eternal Life 🌱 🐍 29:01 Superior People Die 30:03 Biblical Themes Eve, Temple Harlot Ishtar/Gilgamesh -> Divine/Man 31:51 The Self Myth and History 32:44 Umbaba, what was he really? 33:47 Goliath 34:47 Promise 36:09 It’s hard to talk to The Boss of Polytheism 36:55 [Redacted] 38:14 All Is One 39:04 Big Picture 39:40 Epic Tradition & The Bible 40:09 Hero 40:27 Journey, Obstacles/Ordeals 41:07 Quest For The Valuable 41:37 Learning Pains 42:01 The Homecoming 42:21 Triumph of The Sacred 42:55 Chosen People - Collective Hero Exodus - Start of a Journey 44:05 Providential Moving 45:20 Epic of Moral Self-Invention
Hi Michael, I've gathered that your health isn't as it used to be, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that. Hope you regain your strength soon enough. I wanted to tell you that I've used this video as inspiration for my wedding speech, especially your take on how the bible is a sophisticated epic story about constructing ourselves. thank you for giving a fresh perspective on these ancient stories, and I wish you all the best.
Just finishing The Great Courses Lectures via Audible on Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues and Dr. Sugrue was fantastic. I'm really hoping the missing lectures from The Bible and Western Culture become available on here as I am unable to find them anywhere else.
Thank you so much for posting these amazing lectures. I am a Catholic always searching to learn more about my faith, from different points of view and disciplines. I have watched some of the lectures already while keeping track of it. I was wondering if you could upload the missing lectures? Thanks a lot. Lecture 1. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Gilgamesh Epic Lecture 2.? Lecture 3.? Lecture 4. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Job and the Problem of Evil Lecture 5. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Isaiah: Turning Swords into Plowshares Lecture 6. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Matthew: The New Law Lecture 7. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Luke and Acts: From Jerusalem to Rome Lecture 8. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - John: The Unbroken Net of Scripture Lecture 9. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Pauline Tradition Lecture 10.? Lecture 11. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Augustine and the Christian Self Lecture 12. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Meister Eckhart: From Whom God Hid Nothing Lecture 13.? Lecture 14.? Lecture 15.? Lecture 16. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Utopia: Between Heaven and Earth Lecture 17. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Luther and the Reformation Lecture 18. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Shakespeare: Measure for Measure Lecture 19.? Lecture 20. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism Lecture 21. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith Lecture 22.? Lecture 23. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Nietzsche and the Death of God Lecture 24. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Joyce: From Religion to Art
How do you square his position with the Catholic dogma that the Bible is the inerrant and divinely inspired word of God? I was enjoying this lecture until he began reducing the Bible to a bastardized mythology.
I only just discovered -- _no Wikipedia entry?!_ -- Prof. Michael Sugrue. _"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings..."_
You are a blessing to the world Dr. Sugrue. I hope you cherish and realize that your life has run it's immense course, affecting and inspiring thousands of learners, the humble self included. Now that's an affirmation i would love to have before i die.
This unlocked so many new understandings of the development of human thought and storytelling technology for me. I feel he has a far deeper understanding of what these stories really tell us about the minds of humans at the dawn of civilization. Remarkable.
@Michael Kean You might want to try and wrap your head around a pretty simple concept. “Go Lions” is not about athletics at all, it is about celebrating a common educational and cultural heritage. It is about being fortunate enough to have attended one of the best universities in the world while also living in one of the most exciting cities in the world, New York City. Your comments, meanwhile, demonstrate your bitterness and resentment, and it is exactly these feelings that make and keep you unhappy, not the other way around. I feel compassion towards you because you seem not to understand any of this. Get well and be well.
24:15 "In other words, I'm not convinced that our conception of the ego is a ready made thing. (..) one of the most archaic conceptions of subjectivity, in which you do not recognize yourself in the other" Is there literature on that topic, which supports this claim? As far as I'm concerned, there are certain mammals who recognize themselves in others, even analogous to Gilgamesh recognizing his own mortality. I'm not convinced, that such a claim wouldn't be contradictory to neurosciences. But I might just miss a point. Could someone elaborate?
Professor Sugrue mentions many times magic and math had essentially the astronomy/astrology relationship. I had never realized this. Does anyone have a reference that can flesh that out a bit more? thx!
It's amazing how much Gilgamesh still holds up as a story. I like how the professor points out parallels between how the Bible and the epic of gilgamesh are constructed and treated by their respective society.
The inclusion of the plant of life and the snake actually make perfect sense for the Epic of Gilgamesh and serve an express purpose and moral. Instead of Gilgamesh being defeated and his lack of immortality being from a lack of effort or being a quitter, the snake removes the option permanently. Gilgamesh is left with no other option despite doing everything in his power and must accept mortality. That is why the plant and snake are important.
The Hebrew Bible's use of Gilgamesh is Polemic, it seeks to undermine, subvert, and change on a fundamental level the bits it borrows. This is important. In regards to Gilgamesh as a whole, I advise viewrs of this lecture to delve deeper into the Epic in search of the Esoteric meaning of it. Something quite unexpected happens when one reads the Epic as soon as he finishes it, upon returning to the beginning. This time...wiser. This was an excellent lecture, thank you.
@Dr. Sugrue - I've noticed you've been replying to comments lately. If you have a moment, I would sincerely enjoy corresponding with you a bit, as I've recently taken up the study of ethics and philosophy as a hobby. As I'm sure you're aware, common sense is all to uncommon these days, and I have too few intelligent conversations. I will absolutely understand if you dont have the time, and would just like to take one more opportunity to thank you for your contributions to academia.
If you can, please upload the additional lectures from this series "The Bible and Western Culture," as they are not available anywhere else. I realize the lectures that are left out may be given by different lecturers, but I believe they are guest lecturers selected by Michael Sugrue, and are crucial to understanding the course as a whole. I would be very grateful to have access to these!
@@barspinoza That's great to hear! Also I added some new information I've found into my previous comment (About unseen lectures in that series, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger, and some other completely missing series of lectures he did, that I DID however find the transcripts of)
Aaaand now my comment seems to have disappeared.... I was editing it, so maybe something happened. Anyway, here it is again: Hey, don't think this is exactly what you're looking for but if you search "the great minds of the western intellectual tradition 1992" on google and click on the first youtube link that pops up, you get the lecture series that Michael Sugrue's lectures are a part of (and some lectures that are not available on his youtube channel, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger), with lots of other people, it was apparently from some tape that was made back in the 92 which was pretty interesting to find. It's weird cause you can't even find this if you search it up on youtube, so it seems to be an unlisted playlist or something, idk. It does not have these bible lectures, however. And Sugrue also has a new little podcast with his daughter apparently, on spotify called "The idea store". It's not the greatest quality in terms of sound and disturbances (The occasional dog bark in the background), but it's interesting to hear. And he has some Q&A episodes on there too. And it's funny to hear because he curses quite a bit on there too, haha! Oh and I thought I'd add: I saw a snippet of a lecture Michael Sugrue did on Parmenides, and I was very intrigued. Turns out the original full lecture on youtube was taken down, but I did actually find a website that has taken transcripts of that whole lecture and 10 other lectures that seemed to make up a whole series of lectures about Plato and Platonic Dialouges (That I've never seen anywhere else, so this feels like finding old philosophy fragments and remnants from the past haha.) I posted a comment with a link somewhere else but it seems like youtube removed it cause it had the full link or something. But if you search "Michael Sugrue Plato - Lecture 11 - Sake in Haiku Out" it should be the first one that pops up, it's the one that says bashfulbasho in the title of the website. They were uploaded in 2018, so I doubt that they are going anywhere, but just as a safety measure, I copied them all up as word documents on my computer, in case they ever disappear.
I just watched this video. A great insight into the formation of epic stories throughout generations and through different civilisations. As I have finished this one and as it is written part 1, I am not sure whether there is a part 2 of Gilgamesh epic. If it not s there I am not able to find any . And the next lecture available is part 3 of measure by measure Shakespeare. I wanted to listen it from part 1. Is it available here??
Finally I shed my hate towards the old tales, and as humble I can get, ah, or how fool one can be! So valuable, so powerful. Exact reason I philosophize. Sugrue, u were amazing for sure, as amazing as man can get as a man. Gilgamesh! Dirty man, but one has to bath. Laughing, and it is sweet laughter! Like a donkey, bottle of wine and a tree with that fruit I forgot.
Why does Dr. Sugrue characterize Ishtar as unsympathetic to The Deluge and unaware of its cause? The translation I read describes the gods as being “wet-faced with sorrow” and “stricken with fever” at the sight of The Deluge, and Belet-ili claims responsibility for the Deluge: “How could I speak evil in the gods’ assembly/and declare a war to destroy my people?”
Dear Dr. Sugrue, your videos are wonderful! Thanks a lot! But it seems a bit confused to me that several videos with the title beginning with "the Bible and Western Culture part1", so which one I should watch first and next and so on?
I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated
Do you think these larger than life figures correspond to the Biblical narrative of Giants in Genesis 6? The Bible also mentions "men of renown" in Genesis 6 as well.
32:44 Zizek echoes this point in his book _Violence,_ when he speaks about the “founding crime on which states are based” / “noble lies” offered to people in the guise of heroic origin narratives.
It's cool how much epics still influence the ethics of people to this day! How many of you feel like The Lord of The Rings, or even Harry Potter has influenced your worldview? I do! Michael Sugrue, thank you, you are one of the best professors of our time : - )
A thought regarding the immortality plant in the sea, maybe they meant if you face chaos your self's effect on life will be immortal but then he takes a bath ,because he is a human after all, and can not do everything just perfectly so the snake of life undermines his perfect life project. like it does with everyone else.
I normally enjoy his lectures but I found this one to be a bit too dismissive. I’m not blaming Sugrue as much as the critical scholarship he is repeating. To what extent myths are true can’t be known but people thought Troy was a fictional city until they found it. “Experts” declared that David didn’t exist until they found tablets which were evidence of his grandson’s existence saying of the ‘House of David’ upon them.
Check out the paper " Secrets in the Library: Protected Knowledge and Professional Identity in Late Babylonian Uruk ( Cambridge University Press ). It will show you something quite interesting about the priestly descendants of Sin-Leqi-unninni ( The lunar priest that gives us the only known 1st person telling of the " Gilgamesh Epic ", translated by Andrew George )
Professor Sugrue: I am contacting you to inquire as to whether or not you could upload Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures in The Teaching Company, The Bible and Western Culture Part I. This is because most of my cassette tapes are warped and damaged. I managed to find and download most of your lectures and others' lectures online except 2 of Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures. They are the following: Lecture 3: Exodus: Toward the Law Lecture 10: Revelation and the Eschaton Is it possible to upload these lectures or direct one to a website that might have them. Thank you
How about Mr.Leopold Bloom in James Joyce’s celebrated epic,”Ulysses “,a hero, with a Jewish name,but who was not properly Jewish:his mother was Christian,who never strayed further than Dublin?
This man is simply amazing. His mastery of all the topics he tackles is incredible. He has this special ability to elucidate highly sophisticated ideas and convey them in a digestible manner. You can’t stop listening to his lectures. Glad to know that he is still alive.
He's a university lecturer. It's his job.
@@metalcomposition Name a university lecturer today who has as broad a base of knowledge as Mr. Sugrue and who can speak coherently on it? If so, please link me to them. His kind simply doesn't exist anymore
@@Cfb8402 that may be true, but for most people (me included) even broad strokes about these subjects can be enriching. also, if you could give an example of a lecturer that offers something intellectually, as you put it, i would appreciate it. i dont mean to come across as confrontational, i'm new to this area of interest and would genuinely like to delve deeper.
@cfb8402 - greetings. Think your observation on intellectual additions is correct. He is a great story teller and synthesizer of known facts. You could have made the observation without the “standard academic self flagellation” comments. Was snide and takes away from your position and correct observation.
@@Cfb8402 appreciate and understand the reply even if not fully agreeing with the underlying assertion. Just getting people to listen and read and move away from video games etc is a winner. Yes, there’s an immense amount of material from the Eastern Philosophers to the middle eastern, early Islamic writings that need wider attention in the West, but it’s a start.
RIP Professor you were more than a treasure to earth.
😢😢😢
I started speaking like this guy when I explain things to my kids lol. Thank you!
I remember this one. My first introduction to you.
RIP Professor Michael Sugrue. ❤
Thank you Dr. Sugrue, very excited to see you posting content.
Ya the lectures are great, his progeny (T Sugrue) is posting these I believe
Just watched the Marcus Aurelius lecture; am very excited to watch this and later lectures that you post!
Glad to hear it! The lecture on Shakespeare: Measure for Measure will be up in a few hours.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I have listened to your Marcus Aurelius lecture ten times in the past year and a half since I’ve found it.
Thank you. I’m grateful for your work.
@@dr.michaelsugrue quid pro quo, you may enjoy our video on the most important (and accordingly the most famous and most quoted) words ever written in English language: the "to be or not to be..." speech from Hamlet. th-cam.com/video/7R5_r2jN1fo/w-d-xo.html
@@dr.michaelsugrue Thank you for these uploads. I appreciate that you do not inject any politics or bias into your lectures.
@@dr.michaelsugrue please upload more lectures, i loved your Marcus Aurelius lecture
About 6 months ago I discovered the videos of Professor Sugrue. I even took notes from his video lectures. And about 2 weeks ago, I learned that he had passed away because of cancer. I felt deep sadness within me. Rest in peace, professor. Thank you so much for enlightening me, and for sharing your knowledge for all to see.
If and when I ever open a dive bar it’s absolutely going to be called The Cosmic Barmaid.
This lecture was epic. The only thing it’s missing is a microphone to drop at the end.
RIP professor. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
What a gifted person he is. Amazing flow of thoughts and speech 🎉
I also just came across the "Premodernist" channel on youtube. Remarkably similar delivery of fascinating history
This man's an amazing teacher.
HOLY CRAP YOU HAVE A TH-cam CHANNEL NOW?!? YES
This channel is an absolute gem. Forever thankful for your uploads.
Dr. Sugrue could you please make more playlists on your channel so it's easier to watch a series in the correct order?
Also: Thank you for uploading these, they are very informative and enjoyable.
You can create your playlist, if you do, please share :)
I hope this is not too late! Put, "In Order" into your search parameters. Great topic for Atheists! I only wish there were a god! then we could get rid of fascist politicians like Rump and the Repugnant-KKK-kins. Bring back democracy to America. All saints preserve us!
Part I, Lectures-- The Gilgamesh Epic; Genesis- Introduction to Biblical Study; Exodus- Toward the Law; Job and the Problem of Evil; Isaiah- Swords into Plowshares; Matthew- The New Law; Luke and Acts- From Jerusalem to Rome; John- The Unbroken Net of Scripture; The Pauline Tradition; Revelation and the Eschaton; Augustine and the Christian Self; Meister Eckhart- From Whom God Hid Nothing. Part II, Lectures-- Justice and Poetry- Dante's Book of the Dead; Ugolino- Dante's Last "Sympathetic Sinner"; Cantos I & II of Purgatorio- Typology and Poetry; Utopia- Between Heaven and Earth; Luther and the Reformation; Shakespeare- Measure for Measure; Milton- Paradise Lost; Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism; Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith; Dostoyevsky's The Idiot and the Book of Revelation; Nietzsche and the Death of God; Joyce- From Religion to Art
@@gregorygarcia7807 Some casuistic incontinence happening here. Republicans are not the KKK, nor are they fascists. Trump is a cartoon: laughable and grotesque, but ultimately a feckless pretender. The actual threat to reason and democracy is the ideological tsunami of Wokeism engulfing us as the identity profiteers and language launderers of the radical Left release their bladders all over Western civilization. They are the true authoritarians, and Trump is the monster summoned in response to their delusional and incoherent cultish incantations, and now used strategically to justify their own vindictive, revanchist crusade.
@@willmercury This is also my take as a non-American.
The view you replied to seems to be due to many American news companies form an echo chamber together. It's easy to see how media like tv and internet are the shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave allegory.
What I found is when fact checking rigorously mainstream media has stuff wrong a lot of the time (when they bother giving their sources). Also many issues, that get presented, get described wrongly and therefore the solution presented to the viewer often makes things worse.
Objectivity is dead in legacy media is my conclusion. It's sad but seems like a product of the internet revolution, making cable a dying industry which can pushes companies to adapt, often resulting in shady practices.
Whoever is running this page thank you so much
The breadth of this man’s knowledge and the clarity of his delivery are astounding! I am in awe of Dr Sugrue!
Thank you for these excellent lectures!
Looking Back
1:12 The Bible felt like a work of Another Age
1:51 _The Epic Of Gilgamesh_ informs reading of The Bible
3:25 Versions handed down in ancient languages; absorb and adapt
4:47 Epic Tradition
Politics, Ethics, Physics
5:23 Most of society is illiterate, so it is an Oral Tradition
6:18 Epic’s have Journey, Cultural Hero/Moral Paragon. Legitimizes Political Powers.
8:03 Beloved of God/s
8:39 Uruk
9:07 Outside the walls; seeing Ink’idu
10:03 Dreams of a Meteor
10:44 Taming 11:24 Sex-Religion-Society
⚔️ -> Mutual Respect ✊✊
Fight The Monster Umbaba/Huwawa
14:07 Dreams, message from Spirit World
15:06 Ishtar rejected by Gilgamesh 16:11 Send down his misfortune, 7 years of famine, earthquakes
17:12 Divine Frustration
18:07 Inki’du sickens and dies
18:37 Curse Her! Better to die as a man within than an animal outside
19:29 “I’m going to die.”
20:30 King Hukapishkam & His Wife
21:57 Scorpion Men, A Cosmic Bar Maid
23:13 Crossing The Waters of Death
24:00 All Must Face Death
25:04 Sleep is Symbolic Death
26:38 Tell him about Eternal Life
27:29 Plant of Eternal Life 🌱
The Snake ate The Eternal Life 🌱 🐍
29:01 Superior People Die
30:03 Biblical Themes
Eve, Temple Harlot
Ishtar/Gilgamesh -> Divine/Man
31:51 The Self
Myth and History
32:44 Umbaba, what was he really?
33:47 Goliath
34:47 Promise
36:09 It’s hard to talk to The Boss of Polytheism
36:55 [Redacted]
38:14 All Is One
39:04 Big Picture
39:40 Epic Tradition & The Bible
40:09 Hero
40:27 Journey, Obstacles/Ordeals
41:07 Quest For The Valuable
41:37 Learning Pains
42:01 The Homecoming
42:21 Triumph of The Sacred
42:55 Chosen People - Collective Hero
Exodus - Start of a Journey
44:05 Providential Moving
45:20 Epic of Moral Self-Invention
Thank You! 💞🥺
U deserve a sub for your service
Excellent work!
Honestly the best channel I’ve watched in a while :) so happy I found it
Hi Michael, I've gathered that your health isn't as it used to be, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that. Hope you regain your strength soon enough. I wanted to tell you that I've used this video as inspiration for my wedding speech, especially your take on how the bible is a sophisticated epic story about constructing ourselves. thank you for giving a fresh perspective on these ancient stories, and I wish you all the best.
How you could work this into a wedding speech i would love to know
Wonderful timing that youve decided to begin posting your work.
This guy is just a freak of nature. I absolutely love your channel. Thank you!
Just finishing The Great Courses Lectures via Audible on Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues and Dr. Sugrue was fantastic. I'm really hoping the missing lectures from The Bible and Western Culture become available on here as I am unable to find them anywhere else.
Thank you so much for posting these amazing lectures. I am a Catholic always searching to learn more about my faith, from different points of view and disciplines. I have watched some of the lectures already while keeping track of it. I was wondering if you could upload the missing lectures? Thanks a lot.
Lecture 1. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Gilgamesh Epic
Lecture 2.?
Lecture 3.?
Lecture 4. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Job and the Problem of Evil
Lecture 5. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Isaiah: Turning Swords into Plowshares
Lecture 6. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Matthew: The New Law
Lecture 7. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Luke and Acts: From Jerusalem to Rome
Lecture 8. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - John: The Unbroken Net of Scripture
Lecture 9. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - The Pauline Tradition
Lecture 10.?
Lecture 11. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 1 - Augustine and the Christian Self
Lecture 12. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Meister Eckhart: From Whom God Hid Nothing
Lecture 13.?
Lecture 14.?
Lecture 15.?
Lecture 16. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 2 - Utopia: Between Heaven and Earth
Lecture 17. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Luther and the Reformation
Lecture 18. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Shakespeare: Measure for Measure
Lecture 19.?
Lecture 20. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Hume, Swift, and the Collapse of Deism
Lecture 21. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Kierkegaard's Leap of Faith
Lecture 22.?
Lecture 23. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Nietzsche and the Death of God
Lecture 24. The Bible and Western Culture - Part 3 - Joyce: From Religion to Art
Im also looking to listen to all the lectures in order
I included
Me too ✋️
Here another! 🤚
How do you square his position with the Catholic dogma that the Bible is the inerrant and divinely inspired word of God?
I was enjoying this lecture until he began reducing the Bible to a bastardized mythology.
Absolutely loving your lecture series, thank you for sharing oh wise one !!
I only just discovered -- _no Wikipedia entry?!_ -- Prof. Michael Sugrue.
_"How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings..."_
You are a blessing to the world Dr. Sugrue. I hope you cherish and realize that your life has run it's immense course, affecting and inspiring thousands of learners, the humble self included. Now that's an affirmation i would love to have before i die.
This man was sooooo brilliant! I love listening to his teachings, he lights up my brain:)
Thank you Dr. for your insights. You’re appreciated!
Thank you for sharing these very valuable lectures. I am very grateful.
"You never find revolutionary epics." I submit that William Blake's The Four Zoas, Jerusalem and Milton would be the rare exceptions to this rule.
This unlocked so many new understandings of the development of human thought and storytelling technology for me. I feel he has a far deeper understanding of what these stories really tell us about the minds of humans at the dawn of civilization. Remarkable.
may god bless his soul, the man who made me understand philosophy
Just found this channel and it's bloody amazing, this dude is top notch
Epic lecture,
epic lecturer,
epic tie.
I am so psyched to have found this channel. Looking forward to working through every lecture. Go Lions!
@Michael Kean I am humbled by your manliness and eloquence. Thank you for this opportunity to practice my compassion.
@Michael Kean You might want to try and wrap your head around a pretty simple concept. “Go Lions” is not about athletics at all, it is about celebrating a common educational and cultural heritage. It is about being fortunate enough to have attended one of the best universities in the world while also living in one of the most exciting cities in the world, New York City. Your comments, meanwhile, demonstrate your bitterness and resentment, and it is exactly these feelings that make and keep you unhappy, not the other way around. I feel compassion towards you because you seem not to understand any of this. Get well and be well.
@Michael Kean watch the Marcus Aurelius lecture.
Thank you so much for all your work
Dr. Sugrue may I ask what your own religious beliefs are and how your study of religion and philosophy has affected them?
He has since passed, but he was Catholic.
I have decided to watch this whole series of lectures. I am a science and math teacher and look forward to broadening my understanding.
I enjoy your lecture as much as the epic. Thank you.
Sir, we are in your debt. Thank you for sharing these lectures.
Just discovered your channel and I have to say it is astounding and very informative.
As always, simply mesmerizing learning from him. Is there a specific order of his lectures? Either way I’m im going to watch all of them! 😊
24:15 "In other words, I'm not convinced that our conception of the ego is a ready made thing. (..) one of the most archaic conceptions of subjectivity, in which you do not recognize yourself in the other"
Is there literature on that topic, which supports this claim? As far as I'm concerned, there are certain mammals who recognize themselves in others, even analogous to Gilgamesh recognizing his own mortality. I'm not convinced, that such a claim wouldn't be contradictory to neurosciences. But I might just miss a point. Could someone elaborate?
Thank you for this wonderful video Michael Sugrue.
Professor Sugrue mentions many times magic and math had essentially the astronomy/astrology relationship. I had never realized this. Does anyone have a reference that can flesh that out a bit more? thx!
Start with Pythagoras
Listening to these fantastic lectures, can’t find lecture 2 of this series though. The next video on the playlist is lecture 4.
Thank you so much Dr. Sugrue.
It's amazing how much Gilgamesh still holds up as a story. I like how the professor points out parallels between how the Bible and the epic of gilgamesh are constructed and treated by their respective society.
The inclusion of the plant of life and the snake actually make perfect sense for the Epic of Gilgamesh and serve an express purpose and moral. Instead of Gilgamesh being defeated and his lack of immortality being from a lack of effort or being a quitter, the snake removes the option permanently. Gilgamesh is left with no other option despite doing everything in his power and must accept mortality. That is why the plant and snake are important.
thanks for uploading your engaging content.
Great lecture. Thanks from Australia
Always wish I had more exposure to philosophy and theology. Absolutely loving these videos!
The Hebrew Bible's use of Gilgamesh is Polemic, it seeks to undermine, subvert, and change on a fundamental level the bits it borrows. This is important.
In regards to Gilgamesh as a whole, I advise viewrs of this lecture to delve deeper into the Epic in search of the Esoteric meaning of it. Something quite unexpected happens when one reads the Epic as soon as he finishes it, upon returning to the beginning. This time...wiser.
This was an excellent lecture, thank you.
What do you mean
These are SO wonderful Thank you so much
RIP professor. I read the Epic in 2006 .. never forget what I felt inside
@Dr. Sugrue - I've noticed you've been replying to comments lately. If you have a moment, I would sincerely enjoy corresponding with you a bit, as I've recently taken up the study of ethics and philosophy as a hobby. As I'm sure you're aware, common sense is all to uncommon these days, and I have too few intelligent conversations. I will absolutely understand if you dont have the time, and would just like to take one more opportunity to thank you for your contributions to academia.
If you can, please upload the additional lectures from this series "The Bible and Western Culture," as they are not available anywhere else. I realize the lectures that are left out may be given by different lecturers, but I believe they are guest lecturers selected by Michael Sugrue, and are crucial to understanding the course as a whole. I would be very grateful to have access to these!
Yes, there must be someone out there who has copies of the missing lectures! Just audio would do! Anybody?!
@@mradrian1106 This was very helpful; thank you.
@@barspinoza That's great to hear! Also I added some new information I've found into my previous comment (About unseen lectures in that series, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger, and some other completely missing series of lectures he did, that I DID however find the transcripts of)
Aaaand now my comment seems to have disappeared.... I was editing it, so maybe something happened. Anyway, here it is again:
Hey, don't think this is exactly what you're looking for but if you search "the great minds of the western intellectual tradition 1992" on google and click on the first youtube link that pops up, you get the lecture series that Michael Sugrue's lectures are a part of (and some lectures that are not available on his youtube channel, like one on Machiavelli, one on Platos Symposium, and one on Sartre and Heidegger), with lots of other people, it was apparently from some tape that was made back in the 92 which was pretty interesting to find. It's weird cause you can't even find this if you search it up on youtube, so it seems to be an unlisted playlist or something, idk. It does not have these bible lectures, however.
And Sugrue also has a new little podcast with his daughter apparently, on spotify called "The idea store". It's not the greatest quality in terms of sound and disturbances (The occasional dog bark in the background), but it's interesting to hear. And he has some Q&A episodes on there too. And it's funny to hear because he curses quite a bit on there too, haha!
Oh and I thought I'd add: I saw a snippet of a lecture Michael Sugrue did on Parmenides, and I was very intrigued. Turns out the original full lecture on youtube was taken down, but I did actually find a website that has taken transcripts of that whole lecture and 10 other lectures that seemed to make up a whole series of lectures about Plato and Platonic Dialouges (That I've never seen anywhere else, so this feels like finding old philosophy fragments and remnants from the past haha.) I posted a comment with a link somewhere else but it seems like youtube removed it cause it had the full link or something. But if you search "Michael Sugrue Plato - Lecture 11 - Sake in Haiku Out" it should be the first one that pops up, it's the one that says bashfulbasho in the title of the website.
They were uploaded in 2018, so I doubt that they are going anywhere, but just as a safety measure, I copied them all up as word documents on my computer, in case they ever disappear.
I just watched this video. A great insight into the formation of epic stories throughout generations and through different civilisations. As I have finished this one and as it is written part 1, I am not sure whether there is a part 2 of Gilgamesh epic. If it not s there I am not able to find any . And the next lecture available is part 3 of measure by measure Shakespeare. I wanted to listen it from part 1. Is it available here??
Idk why but the framed pictures irk me. Something about the square trim that makes it look out of place
Finally I shed my hate towards the old tales, and as humble I can get, ah, or how fool one can be! So valuable, so powerful. Exact reason I philosophize. Sugrue, u were amazing for sure, as amazing as man can get as a man. Gilgamesh! Dirty man, but one has to bath. Laughing, and it is sweet laughter! Like a donkey, bottle of wine and a tree with that fruit I forgot.
My dream is to finish up like this.
Every time I finish one playlist I remember that there's like ten more. Honestly... fifty times better than Netflix.
I love the music in the opening!
notes: in epic we find a change of location corresponding with a psychich change / transformation, and a hero embodying that
no revolutionary epics, always supporrt/legitimize the powers that be. Justifies the aristocracy
Why does Dr. Sugrue characterize Ishtar as unsympathetic to The Deluge and unaware of its cause? The translation I read describes the gods as being “wet-faced with sorrow” and “stricken with fever” at the sight of The Deluge, and Belet-ili claims responsibility for the Deluge: “How could I speak evil in the gods’ assembly/and declare a war to destroy my people?”
Professor, is there an order in which we should view your Bible series? Many thanks!
This is lecture 1 of part 1
Dear Dr. Sugrue, your videos are wonderful! Thanks a lot! But it seems a bit confused to me that several videos with the title beginning with "the Bible and Western Culture part1", so which one I should watch first and next and so on?
You might start with the Bible and then the others in chronological order.
@@dr.michaelsugrue Thank you😀
I'm always looking for new interesting lectures on Psychology/Philosophy, please let me know if you guys have any recommendations, would be highly appreciated
I found a lot of great lectures on "Philosophy Overdose" particularly all of Dan Robinson's lectures. Love that man.
Do you think these larger than life figures correspond to the Biblical narrative of Giants in Genesis 6? The Bible also mentions "men of renown" in Genesis 6 as well.
32:44 Zizek echoes this point in his book _Violence,_ when he speaks about the “founding crime on which states are based” / “noble lies” offered to people in the guise of heroic origin narratives.
back to Attica
🙏🙏🙏😔
Similarities in story for Buddha stepping outside the palace confronting mortality and leaving on a journey. ❤️
Great lecture.
It's cool how much epics still influence the ethics of people to this day! How many of you feel like The Lord of The Rings, or even Harry Potter has influenced your worldview? I do! Michael Sugrue, thank you, you are one of the best professors of our time : - )
A thought regarding the immortality plant in the sea, maybe they meant if you face chaos your self's effect on life will be immortal but then he takes a bath ,because he is a human after all, and can not do everything just perfectly so the snake of life undermines his perfect life project. like it does with everyone else.
Great lecture! 👏👏
1. Myth is same religion, ethic...
2. The Gilgamesh Epic
3. Moral self invention
Grateful ❤
Thank you
I normally enjoy his lectures but I found this one to be a bit too dismissive. I’m not blaming Sugrue as much as the critical scholarship he is repeating. To what extent myths are true can’t be known but people thought Troy was a fictional city until they found it. “Experts” declared that David didn’t exist until they found tablets which were evidence of his grandson’s existence saying of the ‘House of David’ upon them.
Characters and locations from myths being real /= myths being real.
Gilgamesh: *rejects Ishtar*
I see Gilgamesh has that Sigma Male Grindset
תודה רבה רבה רבה
Thanks for this information ❤❤
This guy doesn’t miss
Will you be organizing the videos into course playlists later? I’m quite interested in these topics.
Check out the paper " Secrets in the Library: Protected Knowledge and Professional Identity in Late Babylonian Uruk ( Cambridge University Press ). It will show you something quite interesting about the priestly descendants of Sin-Leqi-unninni ( The lunar priest that gives us the only known 1st person telling of the " Gilgamesh Epic ", translated by Andrew George )
School's now in session! The journey begins.
Rip king 😢😢
Very good.
Where is Lecture 2? I don't understand the order of these lectures..
Thank you!
Professor Sugrue:
I am contacting you to inquire as to whether or not you could upload Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures in The Teaching Company, The Bible and Western Culture Part I. This is because most of my cassette tapes are warped and damaged. I managed to find and download most of your lectures and others' lectures online except 2 of Professor Andrew Ford’s Lectures. They are the following:
Lecture 3: Exodus: Toward the Law
Lecture 10: Revelation and the Eschaton
Is it possible to upload these lectures or direct one to a website that might have them.
Thank you
No, we cannot because we do not own the copyright.
6:09 what characterizes an epic
I enjoyed this lecture a lot but prof Rufus fears tells The Epic of Gilgamesh better. Respect ✊
Thank you for this info. Can you let us know the truth of Gilgamesh? Did they find his body? Are the powers that be trying to resurrect him as the AC?
No. No. No.
@@dr.michaelsugrue Fair enough maestro! I appreciate the reply and will continue with your content!
you are the man
How about Mr.Leopold Bloom in James Joyce’s celebrated epic,”Ulysses “,a hero, with a Jewish name,but who was not properly Jewish:his mother was Christian,who never strayed further than Dublin?
Part 2?!
RIP to the man who knows everything!
What would you say are the elements of epic?
Can we have a talk on the Ramayana