The Duette is superior in every way to the HM2000. When one side of my Duette failed, I bought an HM2000 to replace it expecting it to be just a modernized version. First of all, it’s no longer H&M (Hammant & Morgan) but HM since the brand was bought by Hornby. The low speed control on it is virtually non existant. I was so disappointed that it went back in its box 20 years ago and has been there ever since. It was replaced by an immaculate (and far less expensive) second hand Duette which is still going strong today.
Hiya - Yes I knew about Hornby buying H & M Thanks 🙂 Good to know that other like you also using the Duette - It is a very good controller!!! Thank you for watching 😉🚂🚂🚂
The HM 2000 comes with wires, a mains Lead which plugs in at the back under the On / Off switch (you can see @ 6:13) & then it comes with 2 set of smaller wires which plugs in at the back - use either controlled 1 or 2 (see on my video @ 6:03 do the reverse) then you will need a Power Track R8206 From Hornby.com £11.99 - Then you will see it has 2 little button on it - press the left button & insert 1 wire, then do the same for the right button - hope that helps 😉🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 do you really believe in Google in that thing? Even if fabrics do not telling the real data? Actully they use trick - 0...14. But 0 is not starting point. Only one fabric used to write true - 1.5-14V, it was Titan, but late versions only. Do you have multimeter?
@@Alexander_Sth Oh ok - not sure if I 'believe in Google' - haven't really thought about it t. b. h. Did think about a multimeter, might have 1 somewhere, but not too sure about how to use it thou... 🤔🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 for sure nice joke, but you are so experienced modeller that I believe you could teach how to do it many other coleagues... I would be very happy if you measure it.
No the Duette is not a "feedback" controller as its design is very old and is not an all electronic circuit design. Measuring feedback from the loco motor would need a sophisticated electronic circuit. Old controllers like the Duette are not sophisticated in their design.
I have the HM3000 which ironically came out in 1980, when H&M was still it's own company and built in the UK ... Lovely Controller ... Except for some weird reason, it's riveted together, thus a potential mare to get into to service
Hi there Jimyjames! Don't know if you can remember me. A search has yet again brought me to your channel. Someone sponsored some things for my layout I am busy constructing and I still use the new cheap noisy controllers from Hornby... but now someone has sent me an old H and M Duette and searching for some information about it has yet again brought me to your channel :)
Oh yes I remember you (only b/c of your photo) - Good - Glad to hear your search has brought you back to my Channel!!! 🙂 Arr yes the H & M Duette - a good choice - you can really control the speed of the Loco with the 'Wave' & the 'Resistance' switches!!! Also the holes on the side are for to power things like Lights, Points, etc!!!
@@Jimyjames73 About 3 months ago I bought they Flying Scotsman and GWR sets and while I waited for them to arrive I watched your videos. You showed the little GWR Pannier Tanker. Yes the H&M Duette is brilliant. Thank you and greetings from Namibia!
@@chrizandriroth7695 Sweet & thank you for your greetings & watching my vids - Glad you enjoy them!!! Model Railing can be a great hobby to get into but also can be expensive!!! In time you will build up your fleet of locos - just like I have!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
I’ve had two of the three controllers shown here (2000 and the train set one) and I think it’ll be interesting to see the new one hornby are making. Thanks for making this always nice to see the trains running Bye.
Well done, JJ. The text particularly useful. Also the speed differences when you switch the H&M from High Res to Low Res. I am thinking of installing an On/Off LED light on mine. Thanks from Jimbopuff
I too have both. The HM2000 isn't a patch on the Duette. I must get around to selling my HM2000, there's no comparison whether in terms of build quality or control finesse with the Duette.
I don't think I did say that the HM2000 is a patch on the Duette - I just think that the Duette is a better controller b/c you can control the speed better with the 'Wave' & 'Resistance' switches!!! Thank you for watching :)
@@Jimyjames73 Of course. Just my opinion. I was very disappointed with mine. I had imagined it would be similar performance wise to my Duette just in a more modern package. At the time it cost me £56 which was quite a lot of money (around 1999/2000) from what I can see they're well over £100 today. I see a few second hand Duettes on Ebay for about £50. If I was looking for another "new" controller today I'd get another Duette - which is what I did about 10yrs ago when my Gaugemaster gave up on me. I've hardly ever used the HM2000 since I bought it, it's still in all its original packaging complete with purchase receipt! Maybe it works better with more modern locomotives than my ancient collection of Triang-Hornby, Hornby Dublo, Lima, Airfix and Mainline stuff.
@@robinforrest7680 Well I got mine with the 'East Linc Special' Train set (R1244) which is in the Signature Range!!! Yes it is exspensive - £116.99 - I also gave it a 'Customer Review' about it on it's page!!! The only thing I didn't like about (don't do this) you can suddenly change direction without stopping which can cause damage to the Loco!!! :(
Yet you watched it. We're not all au fait with things, and showcases like this help others just starting off with this 'hobby' make more 'informed' choices.
The Duette is superior in every way to the HM2000. When one side of my Duette failed, I bought an HM2000 to replace it expecting it to be just a modernized version. First of all, it’s no longer H&M (Hammant & Morgan) but HM since the brand was bought by Hornby. The low speed control on it is virtually non existant. I was so disappointed that it went back in its box 20 years ago and has been there ever since. It was replaced by an immaculate (and far less expensive) second hand Duette which is still going strong today.
Hiya - Yes I knew about Hornby buying H & M Thanks 🙂 Good to know that other like you also using the Duette - It is a very good controller!!! Thank you for watching 😉🚂🚂🚂
Excuse me, how can I plug in the HM 2000 Power Controller? I am trying to find out how to plug it in.
The HM 2000 comes with wires, a mains Lead which plugs in at the back under the On / Off switch (you can see @ 6:13) & then it comes with 2 set of smaller wires which plugs in at the back - use either controlled 1 or 2 (see on my video @ 6:03 do the reverse) then you will need a Power Track R8206 From Hornby.com £11.99 - Then you will see it has 2 little button on it - press the left button & insert 1 wire, then do the same for the right button - hope that helps 😉🚂🚂🚂
Hallo, what is the minimal voltage for the start could provide those controllers in half wave and high resistans mode for start?
Sorry I have no clue - try Google!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 do you really believe in Google in that thing? Even if fabrics do not telling the real data? Actully they use trick - 0...14. But 0 is not starting point. Only one fabric used to write true - 1.5-14V, it was Titan, but late versions only.
Do you have multimeter?
@@Alexander_Sth Oh ok - not sure if I 'believe in Google' - haven't really thought about it t. b. h. Did think about a multimeter, might have 1 somewhere, but not too sure about how to use it thou... 🤔🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 for sure nice joke, but you are so experienced modeller that I believe you could teach how to do it many other coleagues... I would be very happy if you measure it.
@@Alexander_SthHello Alex. To clarify, you want the minimum voltage across the terminals, with nothing connected, at half wave?
Is the duette a feedback controller? I can’t use coreless motor models with feedback controllers
No the Duette is not a "feedback" controller as its design is very old and is not an all electronic circuit design. Measuring feedback from the loco motor would need a sophisticated electronic circuit. Old controllers like the Duette are not sophisticated in their design.
I have the HM3000 which ironically came out in 1980, when H&M was still it's own company and built in the UK ... Lovely Controller ... Except for some weird reason, it's riveted together, thus a potential mare to get into to service
Oh I have never heard HM300 - sounds a bit silly that it's riveted together - Thanks for watching 😊🚂🚂🚂
Hi there Jimyjames! Don't know if you can remember me. A search has yet again brought me to your channel. Someone sponsored some things for my layout I am busy constructing and I still use the new cheap noisy controllers from Hornby... but now someone has sent me an old H and M Duette and searching for some information about it has yet again brought me to your channel :)
Oh yes I remember you (only b/c of your photo) - Good - Glad to hear your search has brought you back to my Channel!!! 🙂 Arr yes the H & M Duette - a good choice - you can really control the speed of the Loco with the 'Wave' & the 'Resistance' switches!!! Also the holes on the side are for to power things like Lights, Points, etc!!!
@@Jimyjames73 About 3 months ago I bought they Flying Scotsman and GWR sets and while I waited for them to arrive I watched your videos. You showed the little GWR Pannier Tanker. Yes the H&M Duette is brilliant. Thank you and greetings from Namibia!
@@chrizandriroth7695 Sweet & thank you for your greetings & watching my vids - Glad you enjoy them!!! Model Railing can be a great hobby to get into but also can be expensive!!! In time you will build up your fleet of locos - just like I have!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 aren't the sockets on the side of duette to link other controllers to unit?
@@paulfraser3385 Could be - amongst other things like points & lights!!! - Thanks for watching 🤔🚂🚂🚂
I’ve had two of the three controllers shown here (2000 and the train set one) and I think it’ll be interesting to see the new one hornby are making.
Thanks for making this always nice to see the trains running
Bye.
Ok cool - Yes it is good to see the Loco's running - thanks you for watching:)
@@Jimyjames73 the older controller was used on my dads dads family model railway he is quite favored towards it :)
@@Jaykeh41 Ok Fair enough 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Well done, JJ. The text particularly useful. Also the speed differences when you switch the H&M from High Res to Low Res. I am thinking of installing an On/Off LED light on mine. Thanks from Jimbopuff
Thank you & your Welcome :)
12v dc on the right, 16v ac left that's why the differing orientations.
Oh right - I didn't know that - I do now -Thank & thank you for watching 🙂🚂🚂🚂
@@Jimyjames73 love these old analogue controllers lol there's a clue on the front panel if you look. 😄
@@cactusgreen Oh yes - I see that now - Thank you 🙂🚂🚂🚂
I too have both. The HM2000 isn't a patch on the Duette. I must get around to selling my HM2000, there's no comparison whether in terms of build quality or control finesse with the Duette.
I don't think I did say that the HM2000 is a patch on the Duette - I just think that the Duette is a better controller b/c you can control the speed better with the 'Wave' & 'Resistance' switches!!! Thank you for watching :)
@@Jimyjames73
Of course. Just my opinion. I was very disappointed with mine. I had imagined it would be similar performance wise to my Duette just in a more modern package. At the time it cost me £56 which was quite a lot of money (around 1999/2000) from what I can see they're well over £100 today. I see a few second hand Duettes on Ebay for about £50. If I was looking for another "new" controller today I'd get another Duette - which is what I did about 10yrs ago when my Gaugemaster gave up on me. I've hardly ever used the HM2000 since I bought it, it's still in all its original packaging complete with purchase receipt! Maybe it works better with more modern locomotives than my ancient collection of Triang-Hornby, Hornby Dublo, Lima, Airfix and Mainline stuff.
@@robinforrest7680 Well I got mine with the 'East Linc Special' Train set (R1244) which is in the Signature Range!!! Yes it is exspensive - £116.99 - I also gave it a 'Customer Review' about it on it's page!!! The only thing I didn't like about (don't do this) you can suddenly change direction without stopping which can cause damage to the Loco!!! :(
Best way to damage locomotive gears by switching direction without first stopping loco.
Thank you for that - I wasn't sure about that at the time of making the vid back in 2019 - but I now know that - thanks for watching 🙂🚂🚂🚂
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No not at all
Yet you watched it. We're not all au fait with things, and showcases like this help others just starting off with this 'hobby' make more 'informed' choices.
The newer silver controller is only good for one place. The bin.