@Leilagharani. Hello! Thank you for all the videos. I have a question specifically about this Excel sheet. After running the calculations, I noticed that the higher the down payment, the lower the ROI, which doesn’t seem logical. It seems like the more money I put in upfront, the lower the return on investment. I’m looking to buy a multi-family property to help with cash flow since the cost is similar to a single-family home. As a first-time buyer, I don’t think I’ll be able to provide a 20% down payment. Could you explain why the ROI decreases when the down payment increases?
Nice and clear - well done Leila! Quick hint: to duplicate a formula in a cell below, instead of copying and pasting from edit mode at 12:49, just press CTRL' (that's control and apostrophe) in D51 and there it'll be! Second hint: don't rent properties to college kids unless you drastically increase maintenance expenses.
Amazing video. I have seen many videos from you before about other topics related to Microsoft. Little I knew that your expertise also covered the investment field. Please don't stop teaching other like myself. Congratulations.
Hey, this is fantastic. I like how you deliver the content and the explanation you provide is superb! You teach how to fish, instead of giving the fish itself! Keep it up!
I've been trying to do this myself and was getting lost in the weeds. My spreadsheet was becoming more and more complicated! Mega thanks for this simple spreadsheet :) subscribed
Hi Leila! I've paused the video at 0:50 to give you my back-of-the-envelope calculation. I'm assuming a perpetuity rate of 5% which I know is entirely crazy, but it gives a ballpark result. Annual rental income of (1400x12) $16,800 / 0.05 = $336,000 which is more than 50% over the purchase price. So I am concluding it is a good investment. Now I'm going to watch the rest of your video.
Cool worksheet! Let's make a super version that includes looking at this over a longer period of time: You have property increases, tax increases, rent increases, potentially property refurbishments, fencing, roofing, water heaters, hvac systems, plumbing or electrical for cost but I think there is also the added benefit of tax deductions.
It's important to note, as Leila does, that the monthly interest and principal payments are the *averages* over the entire period of the loan. So in the first few years you will be paying more in interest and less in principal than is shown and in the later years you will paying more towards the principal and less towards the interest.
Hi, Thank you Leila for your video and excel sheet, but I suppose it does not include the appreciated value of residential property atva later year hence appreciated value ( profits )of property also need to be added at certain % of return per annum basis, say 5-6% per annum hence later ROI will be better, I also agree other interest rate may spoil the party in some countries, I suppose my point is clear। Thank you again Bye
Wonderful Leila, by this you explained in a simple manner how to evaluate wide range of business opportunities. Many thank Maki S. Hussain Baghdad - Iraq
Thank you Leila, very helpful. Would you (or someone else) have an idea on how to correctly reflect your potential property value increase (based on historic returns) into the ROI Return? Cheers,
This is a very interesting video because it doesn't talk about taking a mortgage to pay back the bank, but taking a loan from the bank. Mortgage payments would have changed the calculations because when paying mortgage, you pay more interest and less principal at the beginning (first few years). Then the interest payment is reduced and the principal is higher. In the example here, you used a fixed rate and fixed payment, so you were able to calculate the identical payment and the ROI in every month - something that will not work if you have a mortgage.
For any loan the share of interest expense will be higher in the beginning because of the higher outstanding principal. With the formulas I used I calculated the average values for interest expense and pay down of principal over the entire term of the loan. I'm interested in the average ROI over the years not the ROI I'll make in the first few years.
This was great to see as a finance graduate. I had no idea about an excel function that can separate principal and interest. That function should be widely known for everyone. Also the illustration showing that as you pay off the principal your ownership grows with the house. Really great watch, I'll be enrolling in your VBA udemy course very soon too! So thanks for everything you do.
What do we do for out negative cell which need to be negative but In cell should show without minus sign , in your some video u explained but I forget the video I watched
How would I build in future value (estimated sale price) after say 22 years? For example, after 22 years sell for $350,000, would it be possible to modify your template to take that into account of the ROI?
In Italy this kind of investment it is not worthing making it, for several reasons: 1 in Italy we have a low if you want to purchase a second house you have to pay 9% registration tax instead of 0,50. the cost for the realtor fee is 3%. I don't want to consider the costs just in case there are some other cost of breakage to the structure like to fixe some water pipes, to paint some walls, some dripping water problems at the roof that nowadays are very common due to the climate change with heavy dowpoors, or hail, then we have to consider the deterioration of the propriety that every year it becomes older and older. You have mentioned the fact just in case the propriety is empty for a certain period of time. but we also have to consider just in case the tenant just in case doesn't pay the rent, that nowadays in Italy is not easy to evict the tenant. or jsut in case the tenant doesn't pay the condominium expenses, in this case the landlord has to pay them. so the game is not worth the candle, this is not a good investment to make. I say this seen may experience, in any case many thanks for your vides
Thanks Leila, it was really helpful to learn about those formulas. Being from an engineering background it is something that we never use in excel. I was recently having a deal for a property and was checking on how the interests and loans, etc are to be calculated. I found a few tools online but I wanted something native in excel. That really helped me model my financial plan for acquisition. Again, thanks a lot... Hope you keep sharing more such videos 😊
the cumintmt function might have value in the latest lease accounting standards. tenants, but not landlords, have to determine which portion of their rent expenditure is interest and which is principal. so we're all taught to create a basic amortization table and sum period to date interest portion of the rent payments. the spreadsheet clutter is enormous and open to error. now a lease typically has stepped up future increases, so as future value of those increased leased payments are not as expensive when you derive the present value. i know, its a crazy standard. but i think i can employ the cumintpmt function to give me that interest portion. wish me luck.
Really enjoying your videos Leila! Great content, excellent tips and very clear and concise. Are you planning on doing a video on how to create a spreadsheet for tracking stocks and returns, profit and loss etc? Or maybe you already have something like this on your channel? Thank you!
This layout and these formulas are interesting and helpful, however, I would be hesitant to consider monthly principal paid by the tenant as ROI. First, it's deceptive. You don't actually have that money unless you sell or refinance the house. Second, the amount calculated is averaged over the course of the loan, so the amount of principal paid down in the first 10 years would not reach this amount by any stretch. It wouldn't be until the last half of the loan that the amortization would show those kinds of payment toward principal. Third, principal value is really tied to market value, not the amount of the loan. If the property goes down in value, then you really don't have that equity, do you? and finally, most real estate investors would look to do a cash-out refi in five to ten years anyway, so the loan period would likely be 30 years to maximize cashflow, and as I said earlier, if the market stays even or goes down, that principal amount is illiquid and will ghost you. This math only works if you plan on keeping the LOAN and the property for 25 years, and does not account for inflation, which erodes the value of the monthly cashflow anyway (hopefully you're able to raise rents to keep up with it though!) Still - your videos and teaching style is great and I always learn a lot about Excel!
Sure, every situation or investment strategy is different. But it should give you tools to make the calculations according to your needs. Thanks for the feedback Brian!
@@karhukivi Considering Fair valuation Principal, the price of property in my Balance Sheet will surely increase, but the rate of increment in Rental Income will be lower than increment in value of property. Hence, in this case also ROI will fall.
@@kapilchandnani3018 The value of property is the amount you will receive when you sell it. So it is separate from the inflation attributed to rental income. You should add both of them up and get effective ROI much higher than investment in deposits/bonds.
I am blown away by how simple you made this for us. The tutorial is well structured, and the explanation is fantastic! Thank you once again! PS - Can you explain Monthly Expenses > Real Estate Taxes a bit more in-depth? I'm trying to figure out if this applies in my region - Toronto Canada, and I am looking to purchase an Airbnb
Very nice explanation but I have one query... Rent for property will not be same for 25 years that is 1400$. Rent may be increase yearly ... Please let me know if you are getting my point
Hi Leila I started watching and learning from your excel tutorials recently. Your content has helped me learn a lot. Thank you, and blessings for the good work you do. Query : do you also do financial modeling tutorials on excel?..would love a course on this. Or even, please recommend a good tutorial channel / website on the same
Hi Leila! I practiced it use the same format but my result for Yearly Cash Flow is 7402 instead of your 7.3 something. The result I got for ROI return is 19% not 18.5%. Could you please advice me on that one? Thanks
Excellent Leila! You had me worried for a while with the morgage as I assumed one had the cash in the back pocket, so to speak. The next step might be a spreadsheet for a 10-year period which should take care of the issues of repairs and taxes, then one could calculate present values and IRRs. Another idea might be for business plans which have to forecast income and expenditures for small companies, as grants are usually contingent on providing such a cash flow forecast.
Great video, I just have one question: Historically will a property increase in value during the 25-year period. Should you not also take this into consideration and add this as value?
Grab the file I used in the video from here 👉 pages.xelplus.com/calculate-returns-file
@Leilagharani. Hello! Thank you for all the videos. I have a question specifically about this Excel sheet. After running the calculations, I noticed that the higher the down payment, the lower the ROI, which doesn’t seem logical. It seems like the more money I put in upfront, the lower the return on investment. I’m looking to buy a multi-family property to help with cash flow since the cost is similar to a single-family home. As a first-time buyer, I don’t think I’ll be able to provide a 20% down payment. Could you explain why the ROI decreases when the down payment increases?
Nice and clear - well done Leila! Quick hint: to duplicate a formula in a cell below, instead of copying and pasting from edit mode at 12:49, just press CTRL' (that's control and apostrophe) in D51 and there it'll be! Second hint: don't rent properties to college kids unless you drastically increase maintenance expenses.
Thank you for the tips!
I watched this video more than 5 times, its valuable , thank you liela
I watched 3 Times Till Now
Leila is killing it with her channel. Doesn't hurt that she's gorgeous and has the cutest accent.
Amazing video. I have seen many videos from you before about other topics related to Microsoft. Little I knew that your expertise also covered the investment field. Please don't stop teaching other like myself. Congratulations.
Wow, thanks!
Hey, this is fantastic. I like how you deliver the content and the explanation you provide is superb! You teach how to fish, instead of giving the fish itself! Keep it up!
I've been trying to do this myself and was getting lost in the weeds. My spreadsheet was becoming more and more complicated! Mega thanks for this simple spreadsheet :) subscribed
Happy to have you aboard!
I eagerly wait for your videos Leila. I guess no one explains such fancy excel workarounds like you do. Kudos!
Glad you like it :)
Nice presentation. Thanks.
Great tutorial. QUESTION : HOW DO WE FACTOR HOME APPRECIATION over time TOWARDS ROI.
Hi Leila! I've paused the video at 0:50 to give you my back-of-the-envelope calculation. I'm assuming a perpetuity rate of 5% which I know is entirely crazy, but it gives a ballpark result. Annual rental income of (1400x12) $16,800 / 0.05 = $336,000 which is more than 50% over the purchase price. So I am concluding it is a good investment. Now I'm going to watch the rest of your video.
worth watching, very easy to follow. best wishes.
Cool worksheet! Let's make a super version that includes looking at this over a longer period of time: You have property increases, tax increases, rent increases, potentially property refurbishments, fencing, roofing, water heaters, hvac systems, plumbing or electrical for cost but I think there is also the added benefit of tax deductions.
That'd be great Robert. I'm sure we could create a nice version.
It's important to note, as Leila does, that the monthly interest and principal payments are the *averages* over the entire period of the loan. So in the first few years you will be paying more in interest and less in principal than is shown and in the later years you will paying more towards the principal and less towards the interest.
Absolutely correct. Thanks for your input!
@@LeilaGharani Thanks for your videos, I always learn something new!
Nice job young lady. Very informative and nicely presented.
@leilagharani how do you include into the calculation the appreciation of the property over time?
Beautiful! Very informative indeed. Thank you
A great teacher and expert .. I like all of your videos ...
Hi,
Thank you Leila for your video and excel sheet, but I suppose it does not include the appreciated value of residential property atva later year hence appreciated value ( profits )of property also need to be added at certain % of return per annum basis, say 5-6% per annum hence later ROI will be better, I also agree other interest rate may spoil the party in some countries, I suppose my point is clear।
Thank you again
Bye
Wonderful Leila, by this you explained in a simple manner how to evaluate wide range of business opportunities.
Many thank
Maki S. Hussain
Baghdad - Iraq
Glad you like the video :)
Thank you Leila, very helpful.
Would you (or someone else) have an idea on how to correctly reflect your potential property value increase (based on historic returns) into the ROI Return?
Cheers,
Lovely , never calculated in this way , hats off to u
I love your channel. Thanks for making such a great content available for free!
My pleasure Daniel. Hope it's helpful.
Very informative
I would like to see more accounting videos in future especially accruals , financial statements etc in detail .
Thanks 😊
perfection in this vid.
The video sound is pretty good, beyond my imagination
Thank you so much for this video. It is a huge help to me and you explain how to use it very well.
Very helpful and detailed video. Thank you for showing the interest and principal payment formulas. Make my life easier.
You're very welcome!
You are great Leila, God bless you,appreciate your research
My pleasure. I hope it's helpful.
Definitely, I used to search for your new videos, I covered most of the videos, it has
helped me a lot on my routine office task.
That is easy and clear, thank you Leila
You’re welcome 😊
This is a very interesting video because it doesn't talk about taking a mortgage to pay back the bank, but taking a loan from the bank. Mortgage payments would have changed the calculations because when paying mortgage, you pay more interest and less principal at the beginning (first few years). Then the interest payment is reduced and the principal is higher.
In the example here, you used a fixed rate and fixed payment, so you were able to calculate the identical payment and the ROI in every month - something that will not work if you have a mortgage.
For any loan the share of interest expense will be higher in the beginning because of the higher outstanding principal. With the formulas I used I calculated the average values for interest expense and pay down of principal over the entire term of the loan. I'm interested in the average ROI over the years not the ROI I'll make in the first few years.
@@LeilaGharani Thank you.
This was great to see as a finance graduate. I had no idea about an excel function that can separate principal and interest. That function should be widely known for everyone. Also the illustration showing that as you pay off the principal your ownership grows with the house. Really great watch, I'll be enrolling in your VBA udemy course very soon too! So thanks for everything you do.
They can really be useful Matthew. Looking forward to seeing you inside the course :)
glad to see you are so pro in Excel . i mean your really enjoy it ...and it makes learning fun for us . 👍
Great video topic! Thanks Leila. Thumbs up!!
Thanks, Wayne!
Pls do video on personal Networth on the excel calculations. Thank you
Thanks a lot Leila, we really appreciate your effort
Very concise explanation of the evaluation process. Thank you.
Glad you like the explanation.
This is great but would like to see with appreciation of house included. That can add (or subtract) a lot!
I invest for living. This was a great tutorial and thanks for making it interesting and also having a downloadable file. Cheers from Ethiopia
That's great feedback especially coming from someone who has experience in this area. Means a lot. Thanks!
Very nice explanation thank you
Very informative
I would like to know about financial feasibility study.
Thanks 😊
How did you know I need this Leila? WOW, what a coincidence! Thank you so much.
Good timing then :) I hope it's helpful.
Thankyou so much for your lesson!
Again an excellent video. Congratulations Leila 👏👏👏
Thank you Frederic :)
You beautified the solution.
Hi Leila, i wonder if you have a video tutorial for small business like distribution company. Appreciate it!
Finally found the content I'm looking for. Thank you for this Leila!
You're so welcome, Christian!
Hey Leila; you have not kept any stone un turned. Absolutely amazing Cheers :)
Still many stones out there 😊
Very informative :) thanks for sharing!!
Excellent video.
What about the net present value and opportunity cost, which should also be taken into account when investing?
For housing loan usually the principal and interest will kept changing right??
What do we do for out negative cell which need to be negative but In cell should show without minus sign , in your some video u explained but I forget the video I watched
Very useful 👏👍
Thank you Leila! Very, very helpful and so easy to understand. I saved the template and I will definitely use it. :)
Fantastic Leila!!!!!
Great video! Thank You! Now what would be considered a bad ROI? At which percentage is it a bad deal?
How would I build in future value (estimated sale price) after say 22 years? For example, after 22 years sell for $350,000, would it be possible to modify your template to take that into account of the ROI?
So good. Thanks!
Thank you for this. Your tutorials are always excellent. I've subscribed to your channel. Big thumbs up too!
Thank you Leila, this was truly useful!
I'm so glad, Luis!
excellent video and great blog
In Italy this kind of investment it is not worthing making it, for several reasons: 1 in Italy we have a low if you want to purchase a second house you have to pay 9% registration tax instead of 0,50. the cost for the realtor fee is 3%. I don't want to consider the costs just in case there are some other cost of breakage to the structure like to fixe some water pipes, to paint some walls, some dripping water problems at the roof that nowadays are very common due to the climate change with heavy dowpoors, or hail, then we have to consider the deterioration of the propriety that every year it becomes older and older. You have mentioned the fact just in case the propriety is empty for a certain period of time. but we also have to consider just in case the tenant just in case doesn't pay the rent, that nowadays in Italy is not easy to evict the tenant. or jsut in case the tenant doesn't pay the condominium expenses, in this case the landlord has to pay them. so the game is not worth the candle, this is not a good investment to make. I say this seen may experience, in any case many thanks for your vides
Many thanks for sharing your experience, Massimo!
Thank you Leila, another subject filled with potentially lethal minefields taught brilliantly by yourself in a clear, easy to understand manner.
Wonderful! Glad you liked it.
Its incredible how much i learned just copying this.
Glad to hear that :)
Excellent!
Leila, also you should take into account the annual appraisal of the home as additional revenue in the ROÍ calculation. Cool video.
👍
Informative...Will use it when i want to buy a house for investment
That’s a very good investment 😆 thank you so much for this video
👍 shall we not put provision for possible appreciation on property ??
Thanks Leila, it was really helpful to learn about those formulas. Being from an engineering background it is something that we never use in excel.
I was recently having a deal for a property and was checking on how the interests and loans, etc are to be calculated. I found a few tools online but I wanted something native in excel.
That really helped me model my financial plan for acquisition.
Again, thanks a lot...
Hope you keep sharing more such videos 😊
I'm glad to hear that. All the best for your property deal.
the cumintmt function might have value in the latest lease accounting standards. tenants, but not landlords, have to determine which portion of their rent expenditure is interest and which is principal. so we're all taught to create a basic amortization table and sum period to date interest portion of the rent payments. the spreadsheet clutter is enormous and open to error. now a lease typically has stepped up future increases, so as future value of those increased leased payments are not as expensive when you derive the present value. i know, its a crazy standard. but i think i can employ the cumintpmt function to give me that interest portion. wish me luck.
Almost all companies have issues with it. I mean I see why it's necessary but it's really difficult to implement. Good luck Doug!
Leila Gharani you are one of the best. Thanks for the encouragement.
Thanks Leila, this is excellent to know and the template to use. Appreciate you sharing with us. Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺 🙏🙏🙏
Glad you like it Michael. Hope the template will come in handy for you.
How do you factor in monthly interest that amortizes and monthly escrow cost?
How to devide particular word after numbers needs in other cell any formula please tell me
Really enjoying your videos Leila! Great content, excellent tips and very clear and concise. Are you planning on doing a video on how to create a spreadsheet for tracking stocks and returns, profit and loss etc? Or maybe you already have something like this on your channel? Thank you!
Great work, very informative and useful. You are doing great, God Bless you
Glad you like the video.
Thank you for a very informative clip. Where is the download link for the spreadsheet?
Glad you like it Russell. The link to the workbook is in the description of the video.
This layout and these formulas are interesting and helpful, however, I would be hesitant to consider monthly principal paid by the tenant as ROI. First, it's deceptive. You don't actually have that money unless you sell or refinance the house. Second, the amount calculated is averaged over the course of the loan, so the amount of principal paid down in the first 10 years would not reach this amount by any stretch. It wouldn't be until the last half of the loan that the amortization would show those kinds of payment toward principal. Third, principal value is really tied to market value, not the amount of the loan. If the property goes down in value, then you really don't have that equity, do you? and finally, most real estate investors would look to do a cash-out refi in five to ten years anyway, so the loan period would likely be 30 years to maximize cashflow, and as I said earlier, if the market stays even or goes down, that principal amount is illiquid and will ghost you. This math only works if you plan on keeping the LOAN and the property for 25 years, and does not account for inflation, which erodes the value of the monthly cashflow anyway (hopefully you're able to raise rents to keep up with it though!) Still - your videos and teaching style is great and I always learn a lot about Excel!
Sure, every situation or investment strategy is different. But it should give you tools to make the calculations according to your needs. Thanks for the feedback Brian!
Just a question in regards to the invested equity example. Wouldn't the invested equity be the downpayment of 40k plus the closing costs of 10k?
The invested Equity also keeps on increasing (Row 59). Hence, as a result ROI falls on YOY basis.
But property prices increase faster than inflation over the long term, so the ROI might actually increase as time passes.
@@karhukivi Considering Fair valuation Principal, the price of property in my Balance Sheet will surely increase, but the rate of increment in Rental Income will be lower than increment in value of property. Hence, in this case also ROI will fall.
@@kapilchandnani3018 The value of property is the amount you will receive when you sell it. So it is separate from the inflation attributed to rental income. You should add both of them up and get effective ROI much higher than investment in deposits/bonds.
Thanks good video!
Hey really great 🙏🙏🙏
Your awesome this is exactly what I was looking for -
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the CUMIPMT fun, Leila!!
You're CUMWLC anytime :)
CUMVERYCLEVER : )
@@excelisfun Oh, CUMON you guys.
@@drsteele4749 : ) : ) : )
Sharp cookie! 🤝
two of my fav things in the world investing and excel, insta like you don't even have to say it ;)
Thank you for the insta like :)
A huge thank you for the info!!
wow, this is outstanding. Thank you!
This is very helpful Leila, Thanks.. where is the template download link?
Glad you like it. Link is in the description of the video.
I am blown away by how simple you made this for us. The tutorial is well structured, and the explanation is fantastic! Thank you once again!
PS - Can you explain Monthly Expenses > Real Estate Taxes a bit more in-depth? I'm trying to figure out if this applies in my region - Toronto Canada, and I am looking to purchase an Airbnb
Wonderful as usual
Very nice explanation but I have one query... Rent for property will not be same for 25 years that is 1400$.
Rent may be increase yearly ...
Please let me know if you are getting my point
Another great video..many thanks
Wonderful explained 👏 thank you. I need How to Build a budget in Excel, please. For nonprofit organization 🙏 salaries. Fringe benefits...
Thanks Leila. Very educating and helpful video. Please can you do one that compares renting vs buying a property?
Hi Leila
I started watching and learning from your excel tutorials recently. Your content has helped me learn a lot. Thank you, and blessings for the good work you do.
Query : do you also do financial modeling tutorials on excel?..would love a course on this. Or even, please recommend a good tutorial channel / website on the same
Hi Leila! I practiced it use the same format but my result for Yearly Cash Flow is 7402 instead of your 7.3 something. The result I got for ROI return is 19% not 18.5%. Could you please advice me on that one? Thanks
Excellent Leila! You had me worried for a while with the morgage as I assumed one had the cash in the back pocket, so to speak. The next step might be a spreadsheet for a 10-year period which should take care of the issues of repairs and taxes, then one could calculate present values and IRRs. Another idea might be for business plans which have to forecast income and expenditures for small companies, as grants are usually contingent on providing such a cash flow forecast.
Great video, I just have one question: Historically will a property increase in value during the 25-year period. Should you not also take this into consideration and add this as value?
I wouldn't
Me neither would count capital appreciation