We handicapped all their careers with expectations and now as they retire we see the residual effects cause we can see the end. Should’ve been greatful through their prime.
The problem is that people tried to put him on the same level as Bron. That set the expectation of more chips with each move he made. The fact that Rashad is saying he ain't even in Year 21 is further proof. Now, KD did himself no favors by leaving before completing the mission in Brooklyn. Now it's starting to not look good in Phoenix. He has to complete the process when he moves cities. LBJ was on the hot seat in Miami and in Cleveland the 2nd time. The bottom line is winning cures all.
Lebron is a great player and i would take him above kd but lebron is kd is close.If you look at offensive skill set and overall game kevin durant is a better player than lebron no doubt but lebron has his paid media people to always champion his cause.Kevin durant is all time greay
@@nickbrooks2408 I guess you missed the Booker injury tonight and Beal is not even going to be re-evaluated for another few weeks. KD has shown to be fragile himself and now his running mates are out again. He's not getting any younger and to expect everyone to play when they are 39 is unrealistic. LeBron is the exception to the rule and not everyone can do what he is doing. KD is in Year 16, so it's shouldn't be a surprise when he gets hurt in the layup line.
@@abdeenabdul7803 Stop this nonsense that KD is better offensive player. offence doesn't mean good midrange shooting & freethrow shooting. passing, playmaking, offensive rebounds, etc all comes under offence. Even in scoring Lebron is elite close to the basket, transition & finishing at the paint. KD take the shots through flow of the game but Bron controls the game if his team unable to score he will start scoring, some times Bron will be in rythm but his teammates will be bricking instead of taking all the shots he will get his teammates open shots to get them going. Bron is playing with worst spacing for last 3 years even when they crowded the paint leaving 3pt shooter open, with that spacing KD can be efficient he will struggle. Bron is one of the greatest & versatile defender god have ever created. Lebron is the gratest & KD is top 15 so no comparision
@@css1741is he a KD or he just dislike bron because I hear him go against Lebron all the time but I also gotta remember a lot of dudes from that 03 04 05 era of ballers don’t like Lebron
Okc had a squad…. I remember to this day right before those wcf I told my Grandpa Okc has all the tools to beat Golden state. I wasnt suprised they were up 3-1, KD and Brook choked. Gil still makes a good point with the market convo tho. That “your top 5 all time players, look at their markets” point was sum i never thought about
He was wrong about that marketing. It's about the players & how much impact they have on the audience. A.I. & LeBron changed that narrative. LeBron with Cleveland & Miami & A.I. with Philly.
I think it's possible for a player to transcend their city/market. Golden State wasn't a big market pre-Curry, Chicago wasn't big market pre-Jordan, etc
Joining the Warriors who won 73 games the year before and proclaiming it as "The Hardest Road" ruined his legacy. It also ruined the parity and interest of the league entirely for 3 years. Imagine a rematch after the 2016 Finals without KD
@joejett5084 Curry was already a champion and multiple MVP (first undisputed ever). Durant was scared of Curry and ran to HIS team. I'll give you this, if Curry was more prideful, maybe he would have steered the Warriors away from recruiting KD.
@@TBoyd409 Cuz comparing KD to a 39 yr Bron makes sense right? Bron won in 3 different teams and has been dominating for 20 years!! Bron is in the conversation with MJ. Only thing similar to KD and Bron is their skill level. Both are S tier skilled players. Career wise, achievement wise, KD never gonna come close to Bron. Bron's legacy is written in stone.
@@TBoyd409erase “fans boys” from your mind bro every major player has bias fans. So go off of what’s facts like actual facts not opinionated ones (stats and accolades wise). No player in history even mj wouldn’t put kd above lebron. Since yall usually like hearing that when older players say mj the goat, so using that same energy and logic the conversation doesn’t even start anymore it’s Jordan and lebron then Kareem at the top it’s okay bro.
I think it’s beyond absurd to think that Kevin Durant is as great of a player as LeBron James. I think that Kevin Durant is possibly more skilled in a better shooter than LeBron James. For example, nobody compares Carmelo Anthony to LeBron James. But without Kevin Durant going to Golden State, he would be like another Carmelo Anthony. A great scorer with no championships. Do you know how many categories LeBron leads in not only that but he is the leader in points in NBA history . His contribution to the game is 🔥, compared to Kevin Durant just being a great scorer
This is true so much to the point where I feel like if you can’t handle the pressure of winning in one of the big cities, you don’t belong in the top 5. But imagine if someone comes along and 3-peats in New York as a Knick! 🔥🔥🔥
BOTTOM LINE ABOUT KEVIN DURANT IS...HIS ALL-TIME GREATNESS, NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS, MVP SEASON AND INCREDIBLE NBA LEGACY SHOULD BE CELEBRATED RATHER THAN SCRUTINIZED.
Kd aint just a bucket getter hes one of the most efficient scorers of all time he scores at 50 plus percent which is incredible,he doesnt jack up shots like all your other overhyped stars and hes never a cancer to a team and he genuinely loves the game.Also i like the fact when you come for him ,he comes for you also lol 🤣🤣.Lebron cannot score like kd if you know basketball you know what im talking about
As someone who has lived in the Boston area for over 20 years, it's no longer a Basketball town. When the Piece/Allen/Garnett Celtics won the championship, they were the 3rd most popular team in Boston, behind the Red Sox and Patriots. Yes, Boston is a large media market, but that market doesn't fuq with the Celtics like they did during the Bird era.
KD one of my favorite players but he ain’t live up too his potential 😭💯 he be playing too passive…. Bro coulda took the league over but let Steph Giannis and Jokic all surpass him all time 🚫🧢
Not live up to the hype lol man yall don't know basketball,Durant is one of the most unique talents this league has ever seen lol,no is more skilled dude can take 10-15 shots and get u 30 lol
@@rayleverette4547 then why can't he take over the league? oh right its a team game, smth even jordan had to learn for his two 3 peats. KD isn't built for running the show like bron and mj do. he's built for joining teams that whoop his ah
@@whitebwoi you guys overhype players when y’all compare them to Jordan. Jordan is the exception, not the standard. Durant has always been a taller and a better Clyde drexler type of player. Once any player is in title contention and doesn’t win, you guys want to start crying about their legacy. Everybody won’t win a title and just because a player has been an all star most of their career, it doesn’t mean that they deserve a ring. You get what you earn and that is what Durant did although it was a weak way to win it but as we see, superteams are not guaranteed to win or even dominate. Fact of the matter is that Durant carried curry you guys want to overlook that because curry beat lebron with injured costars and then finally won a respectable title against the baby Celtics. Durant is a two time finals mvp and was the lead man on those warriors team that almost 3peated because of him.
😂 Gil be tripping. No matter how he wants to change it, it’s only 3 levels of scoring. Paint, Middy, 3. What he is talking about is STYLES of scoring but those styles can only come in one of those levels
@@334ben10 oh okay so you know more about the sport than someone who actually played it & lead the league in scoring? My bad…you right. You have more knowledge by just being a spectator. What was I thinking?
@@css1741 just shut tf up🤣🤣😂 you just talking for attention, go talk to your momma I don’t want to hear. Like I said and it’s MILLIONS of examples just because they were in the league don’t mean everything they say is true, Paul Pierce literally said he a better player than Wade and a better shooter than Klay so since he played that’s right even tho FACTS say otherwise. FOOL NBA PLAYERS LITERALLY STILL SAY 3 LEVEL SCORER. Use your own brain and stop just running with others say, now go glaze somewhere else
I really dont think that people sleep on him being a superstar, i feel like you ask people where would you rank kd all time he’s 15-30(this is career wise). In terms of just being a basketball player you have to put him in the top 5 without a doubt.
No he said he liked how they played basketball and that he would like to enjoy playing ball like they did. They still recruited him. He wasn’t going there
@@pandabear1576They didn’t have to recruit hard. He already liked everything about them. He was already checked out on OKC before the series started. Makes me wonder if he gave his all in that series. How can you beat the team you really want to play for?
@@MrGibler43 they didn’t recruit hard, they just flew out all their starters on the 4th of july to go have a little chat about it. nothing major, that’s totally normal.
Gilbert Arenas didn't mention 3 point marksmen Glen Rice, Horace Grant, Ron Harper(Lakers), Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Mycal Thompson, Bob McAdoo, Brian Shaw, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Tony Allen, Pau Gasol.
kd had as much hype as LeBron coming into the league is a wild statement. Kd got drafted second lol Bron was talked about as a immediate all star start outa college the next MJ
if kd didnt miss so many games he would be higher up on all time scoring and ppl would be talking about him a lot better. look at the all time scoring list and compare kevin durants minutes played vs everyone else's above him on the scoring list, what he's done in terms of scoring is impressive. but those 2 gift-wrapped rings with the warriors will hold his legacy back unless he can win one more as one of the top guys on the team
@@abdeenabdul7803 sounds like how it should have went if the league didn't just let the most stacked team of all time come together like it was normal. Yall defend KD so hard on this concept except if lebron joined the 73-9 warriors his legacy would have been over as soon as he signs the contract for you d-riders
@@whitebwoi lebron played on a stacked 2011 team super stacked infact and still lost to dallas with 1 all star lol biggest meltdown of any all time great player.
wait wait wait… this is not real. These are former NBA players talking right now. First of all, comparing LeBron out of highschool to KD??? BRO?! 🤣 Second, I like KD, but let’s stop making excuses for him. Was the warriors a “BIG MARKET” team? Steph excelled, and now the warriors are a must watch (even right NOW). Let’s not make it seem like OKC failed him, or the media because he doesn’t get “coverage”. You’re telling me.. “THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD” got recruited to come play on a 73-9 team?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and to a city that’s not other than “LA, CHICAGO, NEW YORK?! What are we talking about here? Respectfully, KD ruined it for himself.
did you listen or just came to argue. he said the thunder weren't willing to spend the money compared to a laker's team. and no one wants to play in okc. that's why he had to leave. please address the substance of the argument instead of jumping at the first word that comes out.
KD has had three of the most stacked teams of all time. People just gloss over the nets as if they didn't have 2 mvps and one borderline MVP. They were touted the heavy favourites by vegas three years in a throw. The odds were more favorible for the nets to win than when he was on golden state. Those teams failed due to his shitty leadership and inability to work with other stars. He then moves to phoenix which is also stacked. He gets hate because he can't win with such great teams.
My opinion on this topic never changed and Rashard is right (sad to say lol) in many ways. For starters, I stand by the fact that Lebron would’ve won the same by not leaving Cleveland! With that out the way, Lebron going to the Heat had a trickle down effect! Part of that resulted in KD going to GSW! But what Gil doesn’t mention is that MJ won 3 straight BEFORE loading for the last dance! But both MJ and LBJ fans try to weaponize everything to put one down negatively! And that trickled down to KD where he is often used a a prop for that Debate 💯
Y’all talk bout him joining a team that had the best regular season but lost in the FINALS and only won 1 ring before him. And he won both them mvps both them years. His work spoke for itself
KD has been the best player on every team he’s ever been on. Only player in the league who can say that is Lebron, not Steph, as great as he is, was, and will continue to be.
I just don’t get how Kd is better than Steph when he can’t beat Steph or win without him and he’s only won with him. I need to see KD beat Steph and win without him before I say he’s better.
@@renerivota952 That's the same as saying T-Mac was better than Kobe, accolades aside. Winning and accomplishments matter lol. Basketball is just Skill? hell naw
Gil explained it perfectly. Stars want to win in a big city it makes too much sense for business and legacy. Nobody cares about Giannis in Milwaukee. He gets respect and that’s it
Silver wants to spread the talent and it's working. As far as guards go, Jalen Brunson averaged 24 & 6 on 50-40-80 shooting in New York. Zero recognition because of SGA...who was in a small market...and Markkanen, who's in a small market. Tim Duncan is 5 in many people's top 5s. KD is an offensive juggernaut and is the best scorer of all time.
Well duh he joined a 73-9 team that just lost to Bron who only won cause he lead both finals teams in points, assist, steals, blocks, AND rebounds. A Mf never even thought of that in a dream 🥶
They 💯 correct about big Markets and stars. KD has been hated on for Long time. He was so good but they tried to bury him on a small franchise team. NBA wanted to promote Lebron as the best ever and KD was the only one in the way.
NOT slept on, but under appreciated. Much of it has to do with him jumping on the GSW ship to “get it done”. He would be more embraced IF he had won ships with a team he had a hand in assembling and rising through the ranks vs. joining a ready made squad (in the “super team” era). He didn’t earn the name “Easy Money” by being a scrub, so credit on skills and game is due …but that ship has an * by it. And he’s hurt by it, although he will say it doesn’t matter what the crowd thinks (like Wale, who also deeply cares how he’s viewed lol). I been a fan since OKC, but became less of one when he joined GSW (but glad he got a ring, cause it should’ve happened in OKC)
The other day these boys had the audacity to say KD could do what Bron does but hes not asked too. Its hilarious cause KD put up 26/5/6 with 5 TO 38/33/90 splits with Kyrie, Clax, Bruce Brown, Seth Curry, Patty Mills, Blake Griffin, Dragic, and Drummond has is supporting cast. I guarantee Bron makes that a series with them boys. KD cannot be a primary playmaker, its hilarious that they argue he could
Since we want to judge a players legacy off their worst series, why don't you explain LeBron's 18-7-7 in the Finals, 47-32-60, and in their final 3 losses to Dallas, 15-8-8 with 44-16-40 splits, and a whopping 0 points in the fourth quarter, let's talk about that! And you list those big names like they weren't all washed up bums. And act like Kyrie didn't average 15-5-5 in the last 3 games. Nice try though.
@@michaelturley8222 um this has nothing to do with judging anybody by their worst series. Ive seen KD get locked on OKC, shoot bad percentages against the Grizzlies and Gsw. This about skillset, and Durant cannot for 82 games be a primary playmaker, get buckets, and be great defensively and THEN lead a championship run. Hes never done it and when he had a chance in Brooklyn he failed. Bron isnt without failures but he has more championships than KD, fuck that he has more EVERYTHING than Kd lol. KD isnt better than Steph let alone Bron lol
Too bad he did it twice with the Warriors, there's a reason he won the Finals MVP, he may not have got more assists than Steph in the series, but when the games were close and the game was on the line, they gave Durant the ball and he delivered, and he played phenomenal defense that whole run with the Warriors he was getting close to two blocks a game in a lot of those series. He struggled against Tony Allen, the greatest defender of all time according to Kobe, big deal, anyone would've. Just like LeBron struggled against Kawhi, Iguodala and Shawn Marion@@christianluu2994
Leaving OKC and a top 3 player in the league thinking joining a team that was in the Finals the year before (to validate his legacy as a champion) are 2 different issues. Choosing GS forfeited Kevin Durant’s “competitive integrity”.
This show is going to have to realize that having mcccants with these insane takes, is going to ruin the show. People are not as dumb as maccants is, the fact that he said, "the real hoppers know that kevin durant is gonna go down as a better" then rephrases it "I THINK better basketball player than lebron" tells you he is not even sure of that himself. He is not even sure if people will believe/agree of what he is saying. And one of these days, if he keeps giving insane takes like this, people are going to grow tired of it, and will eventually drop this show.
And to SAY HE HAS AS MUCH OF A HYPE THAT LEBRON HAS, IS ABSURD, I DONT KNOW HOW DUMB MCCANTS IS, BUT SAYING THAT, WHILE NOT EVEN ZION, AND WEMBY HAVE THE SAME HYPE AS BRON just shows you the type of brain he has. And mind you, KD was a 2nd pick, not a first pick, BUT A 2ND PICK, AND HE IS OUT HERE SAYING THEY HAVE THE SAME HYPE.GTFOH MCCANTS.
KD has NEVER made it to the Conference Finals without another MVP on his Team.... This is a KEY seperation No One likes to talk about. When you've seen players like Luka, Dame, Jimmy, PG, etc. all Lead teams to Championship games (seemingly putting the team on their back). KD has done nothing in his Career for True seperation from these types of players, ANY superstar couldve joined a 73 Win team and ran that shit back. Mans "the greatest Scorer" ever and never dropped a 60-ball, cmon chief!
How did he destroy his legacy, he went to gs in free agency, left gs in free agency. Now their is a nick in his legacy in brooklyn I will admit but because he didn't do what nba media wants him to do they only wait for days when he has a bad game to talk about him. I believe he should be ok with his career. I think as he has gotten older he has become content
@@evenebrown7353While I agree KD did what was best for him to put himself in position to win championships bc part of why he went there was bc of the unselfish style of basketball that GS played which fit his game so I understand why he choose GS but the media and critics on TV didn’t like his move bc they felt that it showed a lack of competitiveness when you joined a team that you had down 3-1 and blew it and then join the team that beat you so he caught a lot of heat for that bc in GS he didn’t have to lead bc leadership was already in place and they had already won a championship , won 73 games and went to 2 consecutive Finals.
@keonhendrickson638 yes, but it isn't up to the media to dictate where a player go,xwhen a team ships a player off I don't hear those complaints, what is said is it is business. Players are moving all over the place but I believe kd is hit unfairly because he went to gs.
@@evenebrown7353 I agree that Players should take their careers into their own hands and do what is best for their lives and career but when you make a move like that you’ll get criticized regardless whether it’s fair or unfair this is what media does bc they feed off of narrative and storylines, and I agree that it’s unfair bc when organizations trade players to do what’s right for their futures but when players do what’s in the best interests of their careers, legacies, and livelihoods they are frowned upon so it is a double standard which is the unfortunate part of being in this business and having to deal with media slander all the time, same with Lebron when he left Cleveland and joined Miami he dealt with a lot of criticism and backlash and fans burned his jersey and wanted to see him fail when he first arrived in Miami so this is what you deal with in this business which is unfair to players but this it what comes with it.
@@keonhendrickson638y’all fans gotta stop making it seem like being a leader makes it harder to produce on court. It doesn’t at all. Stephen curry rarely even speaks up and is just like KD in mostly leading by example.
Rashad is krazy!! KD will NOT EVER go down asa betta player than LeBron...on any planet!!! KD isa gr8 scorer & has brilliant moments on D but, he ain't gunna hava betta legacy than LeBron...Bron got chips wit 3 different squads.✌🏽😐❤️🏀👉🏽🦬💩
Leaving a terrible teammate isn't a snake move, it's not a gang, you can play wherever you want. Russ should've learned to stop taking terrible shots in crunch time and he wouldn't have left. @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
Also i think there are more players that wouldn't mond being in a winning situation with small market team especially if you are considered a championship caliber team. Along with the fact overseas stars dont care as much about market place
Everyone knows that he is a SUPERSTAR talent, but his reputation took a beating once he joined GSW and also got found out he was sensitive with those burner accounts.
Lmao tell me you know nothing about basketball without telling me. Durant is better than Melo in every category imaginable. Much better shooter, defender, passer. Better at the rim, better in midrange, you should never talk basketball again. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. And Durant's rings mean nothing but Steph's 2 he got with KD do? Make that make sense, retard. People act like LeBron didn't team up with Top 5 players like Wade and AD in their primes, and top 15-20 guys liek Kyrie, Bosh, and Love. All multiple time All NBA.
@@prollyhigh9335 im tellin u w/o them rings nobody would be talkin about KD....who still talking about russ greatness? Who still talkin about harden positively? Kd would suffer the same faith U have to understand that the face of the league is bron and steph The best players in the league is joker and giannis The young guys on the come up is luka and ja Nobody and i mean nobody would give a damn about kd if he don't have those rings
KD is great, but saying he will go down as a better player than Lebron is probably the most wild crap I heard all week. I don't think he thought that through before he said it lol, bro isn't even top 5 scoring, has less rings and a million other reasons why he wouldn't be better.
in which way KD was going to surpass lebron? At some point people need to stop grading players base on their potential and start grading them based on the Results. KD couldnt drag the nets team to the 3rd round and broke down for playing lebron minutes for one round. KD legacy was killed when he joined the team that beat him. his legacy died when the media tried to forcefully push KD over lebron. Started to expect lebron Results from KD. KD had a chance to be the number 1 in the NBA and failed. Greek, Joke, Embiid, and Curry all made their mark for the crown.
He really didn't blow his chance, he outplayed LeBron in those Finals, but no one gave him credit cause they were mad he broke the league. He was the best player in the league for a few years, dummies just didn't acknowledge it. Then Jokic took the belt 4 years ago and hasn't given it back. Giannis was never the best player, he just got lucky Jokic didn't have Murray to show people when Giannis got his ring and was incorrectly deemed the best player in the league.
@@cameronstowe8842 Read what i wrote. i said made their mark for the crown. aka meaning those players ether won the finals, won mvps, or did both. in Embidd case he earn mvp.
@@michaelturley8222 He didnt outplay anyone. 1 guy ether had one super star or had none. so its easy for a team to focus on him while kd couldnt even be double at any time.
8:00 That's stupid, people wasn't knocking down the door to go to Chicago or Boston. Ron Harper, blew his knee out was resurrected in Chicago, Dennis Rodman was given away because no wanted to deal with him. Dudes for real just be saying anything.
Even Jokic had a chance to average a triple double last year and couldn’t do it. What Westbrook has done averaging triple doubles 4 years in a row will never ever be done ever again.
Soooo what about lebron goin to the heat with wade and bosh that didn't ruin his legacy?🤨 y'all gotta be equal now both these niggas made a super team😂😭🤦♂️
In my opinion KD has been the best player in the league since he joined Golden State and thereafter. People blame KD for signing with Golden State but LeBron did it first, and a few more times thereafter. The differences is LeBron teammates didn’t get hurt or couldn’t play in certain games because of COVID-19, and James wasn’t 100% healthy.
No the difference is LeBron didn’t join a 73 win team, that same team that beat him in the conference finals. When LeBron joined Miami , they haven’t had success in 4 years prior to him joining , when LeBron went to Cleveland, they haven’t won anything, just like the lakers. LeBron won everywhere he went, KD haven’t, not through any fault of his own, but their situations are different
In 2015 kyrie and k love didn’t play finals games they were injured goofy and Bron is literally playing with the most injury prone player in the nba his nickname is streetcloths so you literally don’t watch basketball which is crazy
i think kevin durant is rated perfectly by fans and players alike. maybe its not everyone but i think most would say “yeah we know youre a talented scorer, one of the best ever, but you gave up every time you shouldve buckled down.” its kinda like we saw that with the celtics, with the spurs, with the thunder, with the heat… sure you can build a superteam but you gotta work and not quit to make it work right. even when its perceived as “easy” when you build teams like that it never resulted in success the first time and those teams all made it work in time except him and his thunder team. in reality hes just this eras charles barkley, the only difference is chuck didnt go to the bulls in free agency. people dont even mention chuck in mjs legacy and i think its super disrespectful to mention kd in lebrons.
"Why isn't KD top 3 all time"? Isn't it because he hadn't achieved as much as others? He can beat Jordan 1v1 and still people would put Jordan above him cuz it's a team game and winning matters. If players are rated on Individual skill alone, then KD being top 3 isn't a problem. But have to ask ourselves, does SKILL alone define Greatness?
That's on KD. There's long been a disparity between how beautiful his game is and his impact as the focal point of a non SUPERTEAM contender. The beauty of his game suggested that he should've been this era's Jordan; a flawless potentially (2 way) dominant spearhead dwarfing lebron. Instead, healthy Kawhi was more like Jordan in 2 way dominance plus strength and flawless efficiency; bron was the more dominant player due to his playmaking, and Giannis makes greater impact overall on a given game despite his glaring deficiency of shot due to intangibles, playmaking, relentlessness and court warping defense. KD is the 4th best forward of his era; granted the other 3 are transcendent (HEALTHY KAWHI) and that's because the other 3 have proved definitively they don't need to join the 73 win warriors.
@@franklinsmith62 another KD GLIZZY slurper I see. Stop riding his MEAT and TELL ME WHEN'S THE LAST TIME HE'S BEEN TO A CONFERENCE FINALS WITHOUT PRIME STEPH KLAY AND DRAY ? my bad you still FEELING HIS MEAT in you🌈
Year 17 and missed enough games to shave off a year of productivity. Been in the league 17 played 15 and a half of them and still is the best shooters well what can I say
Y’all are trying so hard to get him on the show for views. If you are on a team with two of the best shooters in nba history you can’t get double teamed. He is a beast, but don’t ever in life compare him to the KANG. Look up his record against LeBron without Steph
Embiid deserved the following awards: Rookie of the Year MVP (2021) MVP (2022) They gave Embiid a Dirk 2007 consolation MVP cuz he didn't get it the prior year.
KD is the truth, but not on the same level as Bron. Offensively, Bron is clearly a better playmaker. And it's not even close as a defender. KD has never been close to elite. KD scoring package is his advantage.
This one of the worst takes ever. I never played in the NBA but I guarantee I have a bigger competitive nature than these guys if they don’t understand KD joining the warriors was a sucka move
Kd is so disrespected he’s not on brons level in my opinion but everybody acts like he’s a worse individual player then steph curry which is ridiculous they eye test and stats say otherwise but cuz curry has more rings they say he’s better he’s had a better career but that’s it
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Mccants from the top rope yet again with one of the most insane takes I've ever heard
We handicapped all their careers with expectations and now as they retire we see the residual effects cause we can see the end. Should’ve been greatful through their prime.
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The problem is that people tried to put him on the same level as Bron. That set the expectation of more chips with each move he made. The fact that Rashad is saying he ain't even in Year 21 is further proof. Now, KD did himself no favors by leaving before completing the mission in Brooklyn. Now it's starting to not look good in Phoenix. He has to complete the process when he moves cities. LBJ was on the hot seat in Miami and in Cleveland the 2nd time. The bottom line is winning cures all.
Lebron is a great player and i would take him above kd but lebron is kd is close.If you look at offensive skill set and overall game kevin durant is a better player than lebron no doubt but lebron has his paid media people to always champion his cause.Kevin durant is all time greay
Phoenix is like number 3 in the west right now. How isn't it looking too good for them?
Its lebron weirdo fans that did that. At one point they compared Bron to Kyrie
@@nickbrooks2408 I guess you missed the Booker injury tonight and Beal is not even going to be re-evaluated for another few weeks. KD has shown to be fragile himself and now his running mates are out again. He's not getting any younger and to expect everyone to play when they are 39 is unrealistic. LeBron is the exception to the rule and not everyone can do what he is doing. KD is in Year 16, so it's shouldn't be a surprise when he gets hurt in the layup line.
@@abdeenabdul7803 Stop this nonsense that KD is better offensive player. offence doesn't mean good midrange shooting & freethrow shooting. passing, playmaking, offensive rebounds, etc all comes under offence. Even in scoring Lebron is elite close to the basket, transition & finishing at the paint. KD take the shots through flow of the game but Bron controls the game if his team unable to score he will start scoring, some times Bron will be in rythm but his teammates will be bricking instead of taking all the shots he will get his teammates open shots to get them going. Bron is playing with worst spacing for last 3 years even when they crowded the paint leaving 3pt shooter open, with that spacing KD can be efficient he will struggle. Bron is one of the greatest & versatile defender god have ever created. Lebron is the gratest & KD is top 15 so no comparision
McCants continues to shock me with his awful takes
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KD entered the NBA with as much hype as the chosen one 😂😂😂😂😂 suuuuuuuuuure
Bruh they just ignored it this time lol like let him have his opinion he obviously a KD fan
Right wtf is he talking about 😢 terrible take
@@css1741is he a KD or he just dislike bron because I hear him go against Lebron all the time but I also gotta remember a lot of dudes from that 03 04 05 era of ballers don’t like Lebron
Okc had a squad…. I remember to this day right before those wcf I told my Grandpa Okc has all the tools to beat Golden state. I wasnt suprised they were up 3-1, KD and Brook choked. Gil still makes a good point with the market convo tho. That “your top 5 all time players, look at their markets” point was sum i never thought about
The Suns is definitely Booker’s team, not KD’s and I think he’s fine with that. He knew that when he asked to be traded to the Suns. 💜🧡
That’s what I said too I’m a Okc fan I wasn’t surprised at all we was winning that series then they choked
He was wrong about that marketing. It's about the players & how much impact they have on the audience. A.I. & LeBron changed that narrative. LeBron with Cleveland & Miami & A.I. with Philly.
KD choked. Westbrook did not
I think it's possible for a player to transcend their city/market. Golden State wasn't a big market pre-Curry, Chicago wasn't big market pre-Jordan, etc
5:19 KD didn't have just as much hype as LeBron 😂 dude be tripping
Yo he always says dumb shit
He's like the Kenny Smith of this show, we gotta have that one guy we can all laugh at
@@sovereign3351dkm haha
Wasn’t even the number one pick 😂
@@isaiahtheking9614this proves it alone lmao
Joining the Warriors who won 73 games the year before and proclaiming it as "The Hardest Road" ruined his legacy. It also ruined the parity and interest of the league entirely for 3 years. Imagine a rematch after the 2016 Finals without KD
he also lost to them in the wcf after going up 3-1 on them that year
If it ruined his legacy, it ruined curry’s too.
I don’t even understand why ppl don’t comprehend that being a competitor that’s the lamest thing you can do
@joejett5084 Curry was already a champion and multiple MVP (first undisputed ever). Durant was scared of Curry and ran to HIS team. I'll give you this, if Curry was more prideful, maybe he would have steered the Warriors away from recruiting KD.
The weakest move in nba history will be his legacy…those two chips he has made Bron look that much more Great
Lebron is in a whole other league than KD! That ship has long sailed
Only way Bron in a diff league is fan boys and media … if u look at they games … and stats … it’s close
@@TBoyd409 Cuz comparing KD to a 39 yr Bron makes sense right? Bron won in 3 different teams and has been dominating for 20 years!! Bron is in the conversation with MJ. Only thing similar to KD and Bron is their skill level. Both are S tier skilled players. Career wise, achievement wise, KD never gonna come close to Bron. Bron's legacy is written in stone.
KD came off a career ending injury more efficient than ever
@@TBoyd409erase “fans boys” from your mind bro every major player has bias fans. So go off of what’s facts like actual facts not opinionated ones (stats and accolades wise). No player in history even mj wouldn’t put kd above lebron. Since yall usually like hearing that when older players say mj the goat, so using that same energy and logic the conversation doesn’t even start anymore it’s Jordan and lebron then Kareem at the top it’s okay bro.
I think it’s beyond absurd to think that Kevin Durant is as great of a player as LeBron James. I think that Kevin Durant is possibly more skilled in a better shooter than LeBron James. For example, nobody compares Carmelo Anthony to LeBron James. But without Kevin Durant going to Golden State, he would be like another Carmelo Anthony. A great scorer with no championships.
Do you know how many categories LeBron leads in not only that but he is the leader in points in NBA history . His contribution to the game is 🔥, compared to Kevin Durant just being a great scorer
McCant is ducking wild for that like wtf does he forget the passing greatness of bron and defense ????
I always said KD a taller Melo!!
It's gill can't take what he says serious half the time.
@@AidenAlien yeah he's wild when he didn't hold that same energy for LeBron but you can tell he's a bias hater
Where tf would Lebron be if he didn’t got to Mami he would have no rings like wtf 😂😂😂😂
This is true so much to the point where I feel like if you can’t handle the pressure of winning in one of the big cities, you don’t belong in the top 5. But imagine if someone comes along and 3-peats in New York as a Knick! 🔥🔥🔥
NY would let mf know that shit forever lol
Bruh what is McCants even tryna say 😂
😂😂 boy chatting
When he went the Warriors is when stuff changed forreal he went to team that just beat them and left Westbrook..then he went the Suns
BOTTOM LINE ABOUT KEVIN DURANT IS...HIS ALL-TIME GREATNESS, NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS, MVP SEASON AND INCREDIBLE NBA LEGACY SHOULD BE CELEBRATED RATHER THAN SCRUTINIZED.
Kd aint just a bucket getter hes one of the most efficient scorers of all time he scores at 50 plus percent which is incredible,he doesnt jack up shots like all your other overhyped stars and hes never a cancer to a team and he genuinely loves the game.Also i like the fact when you come for him ,he comes for you also lol 🤣🤣.Lebron cannot score like kd if you know basketball you know what im talking about
Only Real Hoopers Will See Where U Coming From‼️
Like a week ago he was saying he was a limited scorer inferior to Melo
Imagine if he won the two chips while still in thunder
Facts
Could’ve Lebron just was trying on them young nigas
Say what you want about the GSW move the man tore his Achilles and still top tier in the league
As someone who has lived in the Boston area for over 20 years, it's no longer a Basketball town. When the Piece/Allen/Garnett Celtics won the championship, they were the 3rd most popular team in Boston, behind the Red Sox and Patriots. Yes, Boston is a large media market, but that market doesn't fuq with the Celtics like they did during the Bird era.
KD one of my favorite players but he ain’t live up too his potential 😭💯 he be playing too passive…. Bro coulda took the league over but let Steph Giannis and Jokic all surpass him all time 🚫🧢
Not live up to the hype lol man yall don't know basketball,Durant is one of the most unique talents this league has ever seen lol,no is more skilled dude can take 10-15 shots and get u 30 lol
@@rayleverette4547 then why can't he take over the league? oh right its a team game, smth even jordan had to learn for his two 3 peats. KD isn't built for running the show like bron and mj do. he's built for joining teams that whoop his ah
@@whitebwoiyoure a casual and KD hater
@@whitebwoi you guys overhype players when y’all compare them to Jordan. Jordan is the exception, not the standard. Durant has always been a taller and a better Clyde drexler type of player.
Once any player is in title contention and doesn’t win, you guys want to start crying about their legacy. Everybody won’t win a title and just because a player has been an all star most of their career, it doesn’t mean that they deserve a ring. You get what you earn and that is what Durant did although it was a weak way to win it but as we see, superteams are not guaranteed to win or even dominate.
Fact of the matter is that Durant carried curry you guys want to overlook that because curry beat lebron with injured costars and then finally won a respectable title against the baby Celtics.
Durant is a two time finals mvp and was the lead man on those warriors team that almost 3peated because of him.
Disagree I think the problem is he hasn't won In a while.. you can't be too passive if you average 30pts
Realistic podcast with no shame on TRUTH!!!!
😂 Gil be tripping. No matter how he wants to change it, it’s only 3 levels of scoring. Paint, Middy, 3. What he is talking about is STYLES of scoring but those styles can only come in one of those levels
Agreed 💯 I love Gil but he's tripping
It’s crazy yall be trying to tell actual NBA players how many levels of scoring it is when they literally played lol
@@css1741 playing a sport don’t mean your word is golden fool🤣😂 it’s millions of examples of athletes being wrong about the sport they played
@@334ben10 oh okay so you know more about the sport than someone who actually played it & lead the league in scoring? My bad…you right. You have more knowledge by just being a spectator. What was I thinking?
@@css1741 just shut tf up🤣🤣😂 you just talking for attention, go talk to your momma I don’t want to hear. Like I said and it’s MILLIONS of examples just because they were in the league don’t mean everything they say is true, Paul Pierce literally said he a better player than Wade and a better shooter than Klay so since he played that’s right even tho FACTS say otherwise. FOOL NBA PLAYERS LITERALLY STILL SAY 3 LEVEL SCORER. Use your own brain and stop just running with others say, now go glaze somewhere else
I really dont think that people sleep on him being a superstar, i feel like you ask people where would you rank kd all time he’s 15-30(this is career wise). In terms of just being a basketball player you have to put him in the top 5 without a doubt.
i’ve been looking at him differently since boston clamped him in the playoffs a couple years ago
@@keezkeezkeez bro thats one series at the age of like 33 after achilles tear, it happens get over that
Career wise,Kd is objectively between 11-14 all time,stop playing.
For the record, KD said in an interview before 2016 started he was eyeing Golden State for his upcoming free agency.
He was still eyeing a championship team.
@@masilomoshesh1475who doesn’t if they have the option lol
No he said he liked how they played basketball and that he would like to enjoy playing ball like they did. They still recruited him. He wasn’t going there
@@pandabear1576They didn’t have to recruit hard. He already liked everything about them. He was already checked out on OKC before the series started. Makes me wonder if he gave his all in that series. How can you beat the team you really want to play for?
@@MrGibler43 they didn’t recruit hard, they just flew out all their starters on the 4th of july to go have a little chat about it. nothing major, that’s totally normal.
Gilbert Arenas didn't mention 3 point marksmen Glen Rice, Horace Grant, Ron Harper(Lakers), Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Mycal Thompson, Bob McAdoo, Brian Shaw, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Tony Allen, Pau Gasol.
Everybody acting like Durant was the first and only to join a super team🤣💀
First to join a 73-9 team who just beat his team who were up 3-1 tho.
73-9 doesn’t matter! Lebron joined Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and they’re top 10 picks AND HALL OF FAMERS
erry time rashad says us the real hoopers lmao
Ok what about it He made it to the league he has every right to say that
kd had as much hype as LeBron coming into the league is a wild statement. Kd got drafted second lol Bron was talked about as a immediate all star start outa college the next MJ
bring didn't go to college get off the comment's
if kd didnt miss so many games he would be higher up on all time scoring and ppl would be talking about him a lot better. look at the all time scoring list and compare kevin durants minutes played vs everyone else's above him on the scoring list, what he's done in terms of scoring is impressive. but those 2 gift-wrapped rings with the warriors will hold his legacy back unless he can win one more as one of the top guys on the team
Warriors needee kd he was finals mvp without kd that warriors team.would have mever beaten cleveland again
@@abdeenabdul7803 sounds like how it should have went if the league didn't just let the most stacked team of all time come together like it was normal. Yall defend KD so hard on this concept except if lebron joined the 73-9 warriors his legacy would have been over as soon as he signs the contract for you d-riders
@@abdeenabdul7803 yep thats the argument made for Curry's legacy tho since some would say only 2 of his rings count
@@whitebwoi lebron played on a stacked 2011 team super stacked infact and still lost to dallas with 1 all star lol biggest meltdown of any all time great player.
@@abdeenabdul7803How the warriors won before and after KD left?
Yes yes yes kd is the most disrespected superstar ever we going to miss him and appreciate him after he’s gone
ill disrespect your whole family and you wont do anything
@@MrAtl7391keep ya foot on his neck
@@MrAtl7391 ???
@@MrAtl7391wtf😂😂😂
The off cam laughs got me weak 😂😂😂
wait wait wait… this is not real. These are former NBA players talking right now. First of all, comparing LeBron out of highschool to KD??? BRO?! 🤣 Second, I like KD, but let’s stop making excuses for him. Was the warriors a “BIG MARKET” team? Steph excelled, and now the warriors are a must watch (even right NOW). Let’s not make it seem like OKC failed him, or the media because he doesn’t get “coverage”. You’re telling me.. “THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD” got recruited to come play on a 73-9 team?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and to a city that’s not other than “LA, CHICAGO, NEW YORK?! What are we talking about here? Respectfully, KD ruined it for himself.
did you listen or just came to argue. he said the thunder weren't willing to spend the money compared to a laker's team. and no one wants to play in okc. that's why he had to leave. please address the substance of the argument instead of jumping at the first word that comes out.
@@LegulasRSlol nothing mattered anymore after Mccants said KD had more hype than Bron coming into the league
KD created a ceiling no one will ever lift him above, because of the warriors move.
KD has had three of the most stacked teams of all time. People just gloss over the nets as if they didn't have 2 mvps and one borderline MVP. They were touted the heavy favourites by vegas three years in a throw. The odds were more favorible for the nets to win than when he was on golden state. Those teams failed due to his shitty leadership and inability to work with other stars. He then moves to phoenix which is also stacked. He gets hate because he can't win with such great teams.
That nets team was NEVER healthy. And let’s not act like KD damn near beat the bucks by himself. Literally a toe on the line. Stop DS’n
It’s called injuries goofy
Big 3 played like 11 games together maybe 16...either way it's Wild
Like 2021 bucks series,dude was unreal but kyrie didn't finished the series and harden was out lol
False. Lebron had the Most stacked team in MIAMI. And LAKERS throughout the years has had super stacked teams.
Gilbert calling Chicago the big 3 over New York is wild hahaha it's LA, NY and Boston, then a big gap before you get to Chicago.
My opinion on this topic never changed and Rashard is right (sad to say lol) in many ways.
For starters, I stand by the fact that Lebron would’ve won the same by not leaving Cleveland! With that out the way, Lebron going to the Heat had a trickle down effect!
Part of that resulted in KD going to GSW! But what Gil doesn’t mention is that MJ won 3 straight BEFORE loading for the last dance!
But both MJ and LBJ fans try to weaponize everything to put one down negatively! And that trickled down to KD where he is often used a a prop for that Debate 💯
that’s why for me kyrie is the best example of highlights with efficiency.
Bottom line is that you still have to win, there’s no automatic Championships in professional sports
Ur opinion
Not even 5 minutes in and McCants saying some BS…I’m not even gone finish this video he done pissed me off
Yeah it’s pointless to 😊
Y’all talk bout him joining a team that had the best regular season but lost in the FINALS and only won 1 ring before him. And he won both them mvps both them years. His work spoke for itself
KD has been the best player on every team he’s ever been on. Only player in the league who can say that is Lebron, not Steph, as great as he is, was, and will continue to be.
I just don’t get how Kd is better than Steph when he can’t beat Steph or win without him and he’s only won with him. I need to see KD beat Steph and win without him before I say he’s better.
Doing great feats is different than actually being great as am overall assessment of a tenure
Bro Rashad be having the dumbest takes... KD will never go down as the better basketball player than Bron
Na he kinda right accolades aside
Not even better than bird
Thank You 😤
@@renerivota952 That's the same as saying T-Mac was better than Kobe, accolades aside. Winning and accomplishments matter lol. Basketball is just Skill? hell naw
@@renerivota952lol what you mean accolades aside he flat out wrong
Kd hella nice and properly rated… behind Steph and LeBron in the all time ranks above James harden and Westbrook and Giannas and Joker (currently)
Gil explained it perfectly. Stars want to win in a big city it makes too much sense for business and legacy. Nobody cares about Giannis in Milwaukee. He gets respect and that’s it
jordan made chicago a power city for basketball. before that it was boston, la, and then in the distance ny and philly.
Mcants said Kd is gonna be better than Bron LMAO why is he here?
For bugout reasons.
I’ll keep supporting and following KD wherever he goes no matter what media trying to say.
Silver wants to spread the talent and it's working.
As far as guards go, Jalen Brunson averaged 24 & 6 on 50-40-80 shooting in New York. Zero recognition because of SGA...who was in a small market...and Markkanen, who's in a small market.
Tim Duncan is 5 in many people's top 5s.
KD is an offensive juggernaut and is the best scorer of all time.
That shirt Gil rocking is 🔥 to me
Well duh he joined a 73-9 team that just lost to Bron who only won cause he lead both finals teams in points, assist, steals, blocks, AND rebounds. A Mf never even thought of that in a dream 🥶
Stop the glaze
@@andrey-ob1br I told no lies and your 15 years old “glaze” I swear u virgins just repeat the same phrase on tik tok whatever’s trendy like woman.
Nice shirt Gil!
They 💯 correct about big Markets and stars. KD has been hated on for Long time. He was so good but they tried to bury him on a small franchise team. NBA wanted to promote Lebron as the best ever and KD was the only one in the way.
lebrons play promoted bron as the best ever. and kd was never in his way.
How the fuck was kd in the way when Steph had already passed him in popularity and jersey sales at that point!?
@@MiskeenPrinceNot only that KD don’t even get the same level of hate or criticism that Bron does
@@FireAngelChris im saying
@@MiskeenPrince lol they stay lying
NOT slept on, but under appreciated. Much of it has to do with him jumping on the GSW ship to “get it done”. He would be more embraced IF he had won ships with a team he had a hand in assembling and rising through the ranks vs. joining a ready made squad (in the “super team” era). He didn’t earn the name “Easy Money” by being a scrub, so credit on skills and game is due …but that ship has an * by it. And he’s hurt by it, although he will say it doesn’t matter what the crowd thinks (like Wale, who also deeply cares how he’s viewed lol). I been a fan since OKC, but became less of one when he joined GSW (but glad he got a ring, cause it should’ve happened in OKC)
The other day these boys had the audacity to say KD could do what Bron does but hes not asked too. Its hilarious cause KD put up 26/5/6 with 5 TO 38/33/90 splits with Kyrie, Clax, Bruce Brown, Seth Curry, Patty Mills, Blake Griffin, Dragic, and Drummond has is supporting cast. I guarantee Bron makes that a series with them boys. KD cannot be a primary playmaker, its hilarious that they argue he could
Since we want to judge a players legacy off their worst series, why don't you explain LeBron's 18-7-7 in the Finals, 47-32-60, and in their final 3 losses to Dallas, 15-8-8 with 44-16-40 splits, and a whopping 0 points in the fourth quarter, let's talk about that! And you list those big names like they weren't all washed up bums. And act like Kyrie didn't average 15-5-5 in the last 3 games. Nice try though.
@@michaelturley8222 um this has nothing to do with judging anybody by their worst series. Ive seen KD get locked on OKC, shoot bad percentages against the Grizzlies and Gsw. This about skillset, and Durant cannot for 82 games be a primary playmaker, get buckets, and be great defensively and THEN lead a championship run. Hes never done it and when he had a chance in Brooklyn he failed. Bron isnt without failures but he has more championships than KD, fuck that he has more EVERYTHING than Kd lol. KD isnt better than Steph let alone Bron lol
Too bad he did it twice with the Warriors, there's a reason he won the Finals MVP, he may not have got more assists than Steph in the series, but when the games were close and the game was on the line, they gave Durant the ball and he delivered, and he played phenomenal defense that whole run with the Warriors he was getting close to two blocks a game in a lot of those series. He struggled against Tony Allen, the greatest defender of all time according to Kobe, big deal, anyone would've. Just like LeBron struggled against Kawhi, Iguodala and Shawn Marion@@christianluu2994
And Durant usually averages about 7 assists a game when his co-leaders go down to injury, so you just don't know what you're talking about.
By the way, in 2018, he led the Warriors in pts, rebounds, assists and blocks in the Finals, so you're just factually incorrect. @@christianluu2994
Ja Morant and Zion both head to Chicago let’s put it out in the universe
Saying kd will go down as a better player when Bron average the same amount of points, and kd is nowhere near as defensively talented is CRAZY.
Look at kd career defensive stats 😅
Leaving OKC and a top 3 player in the league thinking joining a team that was in the Finals the year before (to validate his legacy as a champion) are 2 different issues. Choosing GS forfeited Kevin Durant’s “competitive integrity”.
Sounds a lot like "GSW was beating my sorry ass team before KD, once they got him I started rooting for a perennial loser" 😂
This show is going to have to realize that having mcccants with these insane takes, is going to ruin the show. People are not as dumb as maccants is, the fact that he said, "the real hoppers know that kevin durant is gonna go down as a better" then rephrases it "I THINK better basketball player than lebron" tells you he is not even sure of that himself. He is not even sure if people will believe/agree of what he is saying. And one of these days, if he keeps giving insane takes like this, people are going to grow tired of it, and will eventually drop this show.
And to SAY HE HAS AS MUCH OF A HYPE THAT LEBRON HAS, IS ABSURD, I DONT KNOW HOW DUMB MCCANTS IS, BUT SAYING THAT, WHILE NOT EVEN ZION, AND WEMBY HAVE THE SAME HYPE AS BRON just shows you the type of brain he has. And mind you, KD was a 2nd pick, not a first pick, BUT A 2ND PICK, AND HE IS OUT HERE SAYING THEY HAVE THE SAME HYPE.GTFOH MCCANTS.
Facts
Not a okc fan but i need KD to return to okc
Fight to win a ring for them
KD has NEVER made it to the Conference Finals without another MVP on his Team.... This is a KEY seperation No One likes to talk about. When you've seen players like Luka, Dame, Jimmy, PG, etc. all Lead teams to Championship games (seemingly putting the team on their back). KD has done nothing in his Career for True seperation from these types of players, ANY superstar couldve joined a 73 Win team and ran that shit back. Mans "the greatest Scorer" ever and never dropped a 60-ball, cmon chief!
nobody reading all that hate bro
@@vintagemonte Facts
Makes Curry all the more impressive as he begins to enter the discussion for people as top 5 while being on the Warriors.
KD destroyed his own legacy. He has to take some accountability, you can’t blame the media 100% lol.
How did he destroy his legacy, he went to gs in free agency, left gs in free agency. Now their is a nick in his legacy in brooklyn I will admit but because he didn't do what nba media wants him to do they only wait for days when he has a bad game to talk about him. I believe he should be ok with his career. I think as he has gotten older he has become content
@@evenebrown7353While I agree KD did what was best for him to put himself in position to win championships bc part of why he went there was bc of the unselfish style of basketball that GS played which fit his game so I understand why he choose GS but the media and critics on TV didn’t like his move bc they felt that it showed a lack of competitiveness when you joined a team that you had down 3-1 and blew it and then join the team that beat you so he caught a lot of heat for that bc in GS he didn’t have to lead bc leadership was already in place and they had already won a championship , won 73 games and went to 2 consecutive Finals.
@keonhendrickson638 yes, but it isn't up to the media to dictate where a player go,xwhen a team ships a player off I don't hear those complaints, what is said is it is business. Players are moving all over the place but I believe kd is hit unfairly because he went to gs.
@@evenebrown7353 I agree that Players should take their careers into their own hands and do what is best for their lives and career but when you make a move like that you’ll get criticized regardless whether it’s fair or unfair this is what media does bc they feed off of narrative and storylines, and I agree that it’s unfair bc when organizations trade players to do what’s right for their futures but when players do what’s in the best interests of their careers, legacies, and livelihoods they are frowned upon so it is a double standard which is the unfortunate part of being in this business and having to deal with media slander all the time, same with Lebron when he left Cleveland and joined Miami he dealt with a lot of criticism and backlash and fans burned his jersey and wanted to see him fail when he first arrived in Miami so this is what you deal with in this business which is unfair to players but this it what comes with it.
@@keonhendrickson638y’all fans gotta stop making it seem like being a leader makes it harder to produce on court. It doesn’t at all. Stephen curry rarely even speaks up and is just like KD in mostly leading by example.
Rashad is krazy!! KD will NOT EVER go down asa betta player than LeBron...on any planet!!! KD isa gr8 scorer & has brilliant moments on D but, he ain't gunna hava betta legacy than LeBron...Bron got chips wit 3 different squads.✌🏽😐❤️🏀👉🏽🦬💩
I want Russ and KD back together!! That's the only way it's gonna work
lmao, "Work" and Russ never go together, the man's a career playoff bum. You must not watch him a lot.
@@michaelturley8222And KD is a snake for his move to GS
Leaving a terrible teammate isn't a snake move, it's not a gang, you can play wherever you want. Russ should've learned to stop taking terrible shots in crunch time and he wouldn't have left. @@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
Also i think there are more players that wouldn't mond being in a winning situation with small market team especially if you are considered a championship caliber team. Along with the fact overseas stars dont care as much about market place
If Kd would of went to the Knicks instead of GSW nobody would of of been mad and his legacy would of been bigger
Everyone knows that he is a SUPERSTAR talent, but his reputation took a beating once he joined GSW and also got found out he was sensitive with those burner accounts.
Carmelo was better
James was better
Kd has 2 rings and fmvps and people wanna put him next to bron and steph🤔 (but them rings don't mean nun)
Lmao tell me you know nothing about basketball without telling me. Durant is better than Melo in every category imaginable. Much better shooter, defender, passer. Better at the rim, better in midrange, you should never talk basketball again. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. And Durant's rings mean nothing but Steph's 2 he got with KD do? Make that make sense, retard. People act like LeBron didn't team up with Top 5 players like Wade and AD in their primes, and top 15-20 guys liek Kyrie, Bosh, and Love. All multiple time All NBA.
melo not better then kd
nd even w/o those rings he still b nxt 2 bron n steph🤦🏿♂️the rings r 4yall fans so yall cnt barkley him🤦🏿♂️
@@prollyhigh9335 im tellin u w/o them rings nobody would be talkin about KD....who still talking about russ greatness? Who still talkin about harden positively? Kd would suffer the same faith
U have to understand that the face of the league is bron and steph
The best players in the league is joker and giannis
The young guys on the come up is luka and ja
Nobody and i mean nobody would give a damn about kd if he don't have those rings
@@prollyhigh9335 i don't know anyone, that would watch a kd highlight tape🤣 can't say the same about melo tho
KD AINT ON LEBRON LEVEL IF HE WOULDNT NEVER WENT TO THAT WARRIORS TEAM HE WONT BE TALKED BOUT FR
Not gone lie , I always have to be reminded he Won a Championship lol
KD is great, but saying he will go down as a better player than Lebron is probably the most wild crap I heard all week. I don't think he thought that through before he said it lol, bro isn't even top 5 scoring, has less rings and a million other reasons why he wouldn't be better.
in which way KD was going to surpass lebron? At some point people need to stop grading players base on their potential and start grading them based on the Results.
KD couldnt drag the nets team to the 3rd round and broke down for playing lebron minutes for one round. KD legacy was killed when he joined the team that beat him. his legacy died when the media tried to forcefully push KD over lebron. Started to expect lebron Results from KD.
KD had a chance to be the number 1 in the NBA and failed. Greek, Joke, Embiid, and Curry all made their mark for the crown.
stop u thinking 2 far ahead it was whn kd(okc) met lebron(heat) ina finals
He really didn't blow his chance, he outplayed LeBron in those Finals, but no one gave him credit cause they were mad he broke the league. He was the best player in the league for a few years, dummies just didn't acknowledge it. Then Jokic took the belt 4 years ago and hasn't given it back. Giannis was never the best player, he just got lucky Jokic didn't have Murray to show people when Giannis got his ring and was incorrectly deemed the best player in the league.
Embiid has never been the number 1 player in the league in his life. Stop that
@@cameronstowe8842 Read what i wrote. i said made their mark for the crown.
aka meaning those players ether won the finals, won mvps, or did both. in Embidd case he earn mvp.
@@michaelturley8222 He didnt outplay anyone.
1 guy ether had one super star or had none. so its easy for a team to focus on him while kd couldnt even be double at any time.
8:00 That's stupid, people wasn't knocking down the door to go to Chicago or Boston. Ron Harper, blew his knee out was resurrected in Chicago, Dennis Rodman was given away because no wanted to deal with him. Dudes for real just be saying anything.
Even Jokic had a chance to average a triple double last year and couldn’t do it. What Westbrook has done averaging triple doubles 4 years in a row will never ever be done ever again.
Soooo what about lebron goin to the heat with wade and bosh that didn't ruin his legacy?🤨 y'all gotta be equal now both these niggas made a super team😂😭🤦♂️
In my opinion KD has been the best player in the league since he joined Golden State and thereafter. People blame KD for signing with Golden State but LeBron did it first, and a few more times thereafter. The differences is LeBron teammates didn’t get hurt or couldn’t play in certain games because of COVID-19, and James wasn’t 100% healthy.
No the difference is LeBron didn’t join a 73 win team, that same team that beat him in the conference finals. When LeBron joined Miami , they haven’t had success in 4 years prior to him joining , when LeBron went to Cleveland, they haven’t won anything, just like the lakers. LeBron won everywhere he went, KD haven’t, not through any fault of his own, but their situations are different
In 2015 kyrie and k love didn’t play finals games they were injured goofy and Bron is literally playing with the most injury prone player in the nba his nickname is streetcloths so you literally don’t watch basketball which is crazy
i think kevin durant is rated perfectly by fans and players alike. maybe its not everyone but i think most would say “yeah we know youre a talented scorer, one of the best ever, but you gave up every time you shouldve buckled down.” its kinda like we saw that with the celtics, with the spurs, with the thunder, with the heat… sure you can build a superteam but you gotta work and not quit to make it work right. even when its perceived as “easy” when you build teams like that it never resulted in success the first time and those teams all made it work in time except him and his thunder team. in reality hes just this eras charles barkley, the only difference is chuck didnt go to the bulls in free agency. people dont even mention chuck in mjs legacy and i think its super disrespectful to mention kd in lebrons.
"Why isn't KD top 3 all time"? Isn't it because he hadn't achieved as much as others? He can beat Jordan 1v1 and still people would put Jordan above him cuz it's a team game and winning matters. If players are rated on Individual skill alone, then KD being top 3 isn't a problem. But have to ask ourselves, does SKILL alone define Greatness?
The fact that Gil said jokic would’ve won the mvp if he was in LA when he won the previous two just proves this dude be talkin out his a**
No KD doesn't have the stats to even be compared. LBJ is statistically the 🐐. MJ's legacy revolves around excitement. Be real.
So lebron’s stats are better than wilt chamberlain’s ? Lol
🤔 I like all 3 of them but I’m looking at Giannis being at the same level as them & a step further. This panel is stuck in 2013 a little bit
That's on KD.
There's long been a disparity between how beautiful his game is and his impact as the focal point of a non SUPERTEAM contender.
The beauty of his game suggested that he should've been this era's Jordan; a flawless potentially (2 way) dominant spearhead dwarfing lebron.
Instead, healthy Kawhi was more like Jordan in 2 way dominance plus strength and flawless efficiency; bron was the more dominant player due to his playmaking, and Giannis makes greater impact overall on a given game despite his glaring deficiency of shot due to intangibles, playmaking, relentlessness and court warping defense.
KD is the 4th best forward of his era; granted the other 3 are transcendent (HEALTHY KAWHI) and that's because the other 3 have proved definitively they don't need to join the 73 win warriors.
😂😂what??
@@D15-b8j oh look, I c u bois who get your CHEEKS CLAPPED by KD can't eem read nowadays.
Truly a shame👄
You literally don’t watch basketball
@@franklinsmith62 another KD GLIZZY slurper I see. Stop riding his MEAT and TELL ME WHEN'S THE LAST TIME HE'S BEEN TO A CONFERENCE FINALS WITHOUT PRIME STEPH KLAY AND DRAY ?
my bad you still FEELING HIS MEAT in you🌈
4:32 🤦♂️ you played in the NBA sir ,you should know better. Kevin Durant better than LeBron? Not on this planet and in life.
Year 17 and missed enough games to shave off a year of productivity. Been in the league 17 played 15 and a half of them and still is the best shooters well what can I say
I don't care what anyone thinks...KD is the greatest player I've ever seen!!!
But his wins are not, and he has only one MVP
I say this all the time… he gets compared to greats cause he just that damn good and they don’t even realize 😂
The top three markets are New York LA Boston
Y’all are trying so hard to get him on the show for views. If you are on a team with two of the best shooters in nba history you can’t get double teamed. He is a beast, but don’t ever in life compare him to the KANG. Look up his record against LeBron without Steph
KD... Is calm....
LeBron.. 1 Practice with Jordan!! Age 17... Dangs.. self expectations.. now.. Most Dominant Guy...
KD is an all time great but will never have the legacy he should have.
Most people will say he’s a top 15 NBA player ever. That’s exactly what his legacy should’ve been based on his college tape
Embiid deserved the following awards:
Rookie of the Year
MVP (2021)
MVP (2022)
They gave Embiid a Dirk 2007 consolation MVP cuz he didn't get it the prior year.
most hated guy
KD is the truth, but not on the same level as Bron. Offensively, Bron is clearly a better playmaker. And it's not even close as a defender. KD has never been close to elite.
KD scoring package is his advantage.
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KD never been elite?!?!?!?
KD is disrespected for sure. So is Klay
In season tournament should play for tv time
This one of the worst takes ever. I never played in the NBA but I guarantee I have a bigger competitive nature than these guys if they don’t understand KD joining the warriors was a sucka move
Kd is so disrespected he’s not on brons level in my opinion but everybody acts like he’s a worse individual player then steph curry which is ridiculous they eye test and stats say otherwise but cuz curry has more rings they say he’s better he’s had a better career but that’s it
McCants coming off a lot more smooth now
Nah Dame is but KD definitely deserves way more respect.
What has Dame actually really done in the league??
ESPN will be taking notes here to replicate these upper level basketball conversations forsure, lol