mobo PCB Breakdown: ASUS Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI
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- I made a mistake. The Vcore VRM on this board is actually a 4 phase not a 6.
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If I had to guess, the reason doublers were originally developed was because older gen DrMOS and discrete mosfets had far worse switching performance than modern ones, so using doublers to compensate for a low operating frequency could improve ripple.
Cool! Finally SOMEONE on YT talks about a motherboard I might actually purchase. Thanks BZ!
Ikr I was going to get it but went for the tuff gaming x670e instead
@@CJWall_rott I'm sorry
You're a good man Buildzoid, I don't care what anybody says!
Lol what who says different!?? Lol
@@christopherjackson2157 it's a joke, man 😁
No one said anything though
no one said the opposite. he is doing the best reviews
It’s a joke guys 😂
Purchased this motherboard when building a new pc during black friday. I only picked it up because it was the cheapest motherboard I could find with pretty good rear io and audio codec that wasn’t horrible. Was super excited to see this video go up and learn more about it!
Get a decent USB DAC/Amp so your mobo decisions will never be bothered by audio codec again.
you can also use Asus SPDIF bracket connected to SPDIF connector
@@Aggrofoolaudio codec can impact performance ?
I have an ifi zen dac v2 and an amp but i use my mobo audio when gaming because i don’t have a mic on my high end headphones .
@@PeterPavlik72 Hi Peter, can you give a link to that connector? I have this mobo and want to use the SPDIF for my speakers.
@@Aggrofool There is so much snake oil in hi-fi audio/audiophile communities, and I haven't figured out what DAC/AMP combo to get. Is it possible to get a good DAC/AMP combo under $100?
A new motherboard breakdown! Exactly what I needed today!
wow I built on this motherboard a few weeks ago
Edit: I think shielding is poorly done on this board. When I plug in the headphone and start listening to music or watch BuildZoid videos, it makes zzzzsz buzzing noise once in a while. Plugging it into a USB Dac solves the issue. Also, the board's sound is not as good as the older S1220 codec and ES9023P Dac found in Asus Crosshair VII Hero board.
Good to know.
I know this is a late response but the Strix X370-F Gaming has the exact same issue.
I have to install the drivers directly from Asus support page.
This fixes the issue, but sometimes a simple Windows reboot will revert the drivers causing problems again.
I have this board paired w 7900x, 32gb gskill DDR5 6000 CL30 and 3090Ti. Love it!
Especially that i can drop in not only new AM5 cpus down the road but also PCIE 5.0 GPUs and SSDs
What do you cool your 7900x with?
@@datsweetsansabooty deepcool LS720 360mm AIO liquid cooler
@@BlusViews thanks for the reply
@@datsweetsansabooty you're welcome sweetie 😘
Have ypu had trouble booting, stability or enabling EXPO? Ive read a lot of bad feedback about these issues and the b650e-f.... Im considering buying this board. Trying to look for positive feedback to help me decide 😂
I have the ASUS Z790-E and can confirm that memory trace lines appear visible on the top side of the 8-layer motherboard (in answer to question posed at about 55m into this video).
I just happened to buy this exact motherboard a couple of days ago, seemed to be the best quality/value for AM5, hope I'm not wrong!. Nice video and timing :)
I bought the same monitor fo 310€
Hey Buildzoid. Im starting to work out what mobo to go with for a 7800x3d or 7900x3d when they release. I'd love a roundup video on recommendations considering a few common use cases. I suspect these types of video aren't your favorite, but I think a lot of us would appreciate it greatly.
Because I need an Optical Out, so far my list includes: MSI MPG X670E, ASRock B650E Steel Legend and ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E but now Im not sure how to properly compare them but ill give it a red hot go.
Cheers
Waiting for that video too..
Asus X670E tuf is the best value high end mobo
I have the Asus ROG strip b650e-e and I'm pairing it with a 7900, it's a beautiful looking board, plenty of m.2 slots, great rear IO, and a thunderbolt 4 header which is really nice too. If you need a lot of m.2 expansion and rear io, as well as like the clean look of the board I say that's the one to get
@@Ian07385 I'm likely going to get a b650e-e, and have been struggling on finding much information about that board online. It's a huge bummer since I love to do deep research on this kind of stuff before I buy one, but I just haven't found as much information about this board as I would like to. It's pretty much the only board with a qcode readout that's not nearly $500 since the aorus master has been discontinued.
That said, have you had a good experience with the board?
I miss the old days of Asus when everything was cutting edge and over-built. Now it's hit or miss. So sad
they released too many board
Very entertaining video BZ! For not having tested the board you were able to inform your viewers of so many details. Hooray for BZ!
I have the B650E-E version, great board..
Just brought the B650E-E version has a bigger vrm and code reader plus a few other bits for £30 more, the F version was out of stock everywhere in the uk last week. It's selling so fast no retailers had any stock. Still waiting for mine to arrive. 🙂
what cpu?
Hmm isn't like 80 pounds more ? Where did you buy yours at if you please ?
@@jondonnelly3 Got it in the sales at ccl online for £312, it was buy 3 items for a 10% discount, so I brought a cpu, motherboard, ddr5 memory, I also got another 10% off by using discount code santa, it's like £369 from them now, so got a good deal at the time. Came to £667.38 all in, Re used my phanteks case and everything else, I saved for a while for the upgrade, last pc was z270 7700k. Had a few issues with fTPM causing suttering in games, took me a while to work out what was causing it, make sure you turn it off in the bios, cause AMD still haven't fixed it, caused issues for people with AM4 also. AMD Article Number PA-410
for a gaming build with 7800x3d there really is nothing useful on the E-E compared to E-F except the post code, which is nice but not gonna pay 90 euro more to get it
@@jondonnelly3 same for me here and all you get for 95 euro more is a post code, cause everything else is useless for a gaming build
even this is kinda overkill for a gaming build and thinking of saving 50 eur and getting a B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2 cause my 4080 sure doesn't need pcie5 and most likely even 6080 that I might upgrade to won't need it...also I did not have a good experience with asus on my last 2 builds and eventually replaced them, but it seems they have improved their memory topology at least (my b550 tomahawk max can actually run 4 stick of 3200 CL14 memory which the x470 crosshair 7 hero could not even remotely)
the b650 is only 6 layer but with 6000MHz ram it doesn't matter much and the b650 has pcie5 nvme as well so it's probably useless for me to pay more
also I've head many gigabyte boards and never had any issue, with all my 2 asus boards I had some issue
When is the Asus AM5 motherboard rambling video coming?
My life always needs more mobo rambling
Hah how cool is that! I've just been eyeing this board up for a potential build, glad to see the master had already covered it!
Thank you for letting me know I don't need to worry about that extra 4 pin mobo power port. Whew!
Nice to see Asus providing samples to BZ for review
Thanks for the video!
is there any chance for some low effort content regarding the rest of Asus AM5 motherboards? :) would be appreciated as well!
Your videos are awesome as always. I'm waiting for more. Also for review
You're awesome dude!!! You explain really good !! And the best and more human part is when you say "I dont know" or "I'm not sure". I like that. It sounds like you honestly are trying to give the best without misinforming. Do you have a video about how power(phases, numbers like 6+2+2 mean, etc) on motherboard works? Thank you !!
So glad I watched this. Super informative, thanks!!
Will there be B650E-E brakedown? Thanks for your great work BZ!
This MOBO just went on sale at Micro Center for almost half off, this video is going to be a good resource for bunch of people.
In my dreams I live in the US and buy PC parts for cheap asf, just bought this board last week and it was 360$ cheapest in my country, had to go for a good board after 2 prime boards were so bad and just causing tons of problems, happy with the board, but 360$ is a lot..
@@philipg3789 i got this from a friend who was visiting from US. But unfortunately my MB didn't POST. It had some faulty IC near the RAM capacitors. There are two small IC near the 4 capacitor near the RAM slot. Will it possible for you send a hi-res pic of that area from your MB so that i can get the name of IC that i need to replace. US bought MB has no global warranty , Thanks.
I got mine for $120, absolute steal.
Thanks for the overview, interested in this board as something for me to upgrade to in the future.
Even answered my question about the AUX+EPS12V, thanks! While installing my B650E Riptide I discovered my PSU somehow didn't have an AUX plug so had been wondering. Had left it unplugged as a cap was blocking use of a second EPS12V.
wow.. I have the 'E-E' version of this board and it's a much more elaborate layout
When manufacturers configure the digital vrm controllers is that firmware data stored in the controller itself and set up at time of manufacture or is it written into the bios and then set up when the board boots?
Ps definitely test the board with capacitors on and off lol. That would be such a cool experiment.
I'm not an expert and I may be completely wrong, but my guess as to why doublers were implemented is with higher amperage power stages (say, the infineon 80/90A SPSs) a doubler would increase the effective switching frequently of a controller while still providing enough current per phase. Higher switching frequencies can severely degrade efficiency, so you want to have the controller at a sweet spot (usually like 300khz-500khz?) but doublers would effectively increase that without efficiency loss by offsetting the pwm timing
PCB breakdown for the win!
I wish you a merry christmas 🎄
Good stuff as a 36 year old who hasn't soldered circuit boards and cables in years
All the best for '23 BZ
Could you do a review on one of the ROG strix or crosshair X670E boards? (preferably the ROG Strix X670E-E) would love to hear what you have to say about the improved power delivery and PCI-E 5.0 features on it.
Love the nvme salt opening. Fecking dash F no post code. Post code is pretty.
I've been eyeeing this motherboard for a purchase. I've read a lot of bad feedback from people having issues booting or maintaining their system stable because of RAM compatibility (in spite of using QVL ram listed in both ASUS and the RAM brand). Some other people having no luck enabling EXPO.....
Could any b650e-f owner share his experience in this regard? Thanks
Just about to pick one of these up £399.95. Thanks for the video.
they go for 275 here
Regarding the high current 8-pin connectors, I'm not sure it's true that they always have that solid prismatic shape. For example, Molex Minifit HCS (high current) like PN 46015-0802 are that folded metal style and rated for 10A per contact. I want to say it's the same for Amphenol parts. I'm not even sure where one can acquire those prismatic terminal style of connectors through normal western distributors.
wow BZ doing a PCB Breakdown again for once
Thx for this buildzoid. Any chance of you doing a breakdown on the Asus ROG 670e Crosshair Extreme motherboard. Id love to see what that has under the hood.
Great video! Will you be making a breakdown for the Z790 Aorus Master in the future?
Do a mobo breakdown of the B650E Riptide next!
can you try out B650E-E Strix? It is using MPS power stages, not many motherboards use this brand. But is popular with Nvidia and the FE GPU.
The kind of review that i am interested in👌👍
a square cuboid or a rectangular parallelepiped
I'm learning. Thank you. Can you do a B650 board next? B650 Pro RS or LiveMixer (the one I bought, same VRM setup AFAIK).
I want to know more about my board. Curious what you think. 🙂
TL;DR I went with the 5200 Kingston 64 Gb set but will exchange for a 5600 kit.
Great vid! Any chance you could do a video on memory overclocking for ryzen 7000?
Do all B650 motherboards run Smart Power Stages? What's the future of discreet high and low side configurations for VRMs?
Might grab this board today and pair it with some g.skill 6000 32-38-38. Figured with those timings it should be hynix. Are we going to see any memory tuning videos on AM5. Lots of AM5 content on here but no memory tweaking yet from what I can find.
Samsung
@@vetold85 per his Nov DDR5 video, if it's a 64Gb kit should be Hynix (timestamp around 38:16) with 32-38-38-96
Hi there buildzoid thanks for the greats videos could you do a similar video for the ROG strix B 650E-E Gaming mobo ?
I love your motherboard/GPU PCB review content
Bz, happy holidays! Could you do a z790 maximus extreme 13900k and F5-7800J3646H16GX2-TZ5RK oc video ?
22:25 TIL "Shorted HFET Protection" is a thing, just read the SiC645 datasheet and that's very cool. On the other hand, what can a VRM even do when it detects a short? The high side FET is still hard-wired to 12V and I've never seen a crowbar circuit on a mobo
Hwinfo 64 in some motherboard when look at motherboard section name you can see what VRM controller board use , but the most time you see only the names of sensors Nuvoton ...
So if you would have to pick between 2 kits with m-die like Kingston Fury 5600mhz and Patriot Viper venom 6200mhz you would buy cheaper one? And there is technically no difference in OC as both are hynix m-die?
Hello sir I really appreciated your video. I'm very stupid when it comes to motherboards, and I wanted to ask you if you think its a good motherboard for a 7900x3d?
The B650E-I itx strix any good? Yay or ney?
Not talked so often is that this Intel network chip is notoriously problematic and if you want to get more than 100mbit/s connection, you need luck. Router has to be very good and likely cable too. I have never encountered this problem with Realtek or older Intel or other network adapters. There are many messageboard threads about its issues and tricks you can try.
Unbelievable for 2019 chip to have such issues. Good to know that though.
Wait, hasn't that been fixed?
@@tiger.98 Apparently not as I know a machine that still has the issue with latest drivers. Had to cut speed to make it stable.
I'm glad my home only use 100mbps
@@TechTusiast I believe it was a hardware fix, not something that could be fixed with drivers. Newer build date Intel 2.5g should be fine as far as I know.
Hi. Few days ago I build system using exactly that motherboard and I have problem with entering UEFI. At the beginning everything was alright but next day when I press DEL button to early MB stuck (not starting, blank screen) and green LED is on that mean issues with boot device. But if I don't press any button windows loading every time with no boot issues. If I want to enter UEFI I need to restart many times and finaly after few restarts it let me enter UEFI. Any thoughts?
P. S. Sorry for my English :)
Looks like a nice motherboard. I don't get why they include the 4 pin ATX-12V connector at all if the 8-pin is adequate. Who would use a 4-pin era PSU these days with a modern CPU?
5:35
NOOOooooooooOOOO !!!!!
SPDIF is mandatory ... because I need one.
Guess you'll have to ask ASUS to submit the Strix B650E-E for evaluation next week ...
...and the ITX B650-E one for the week after.
Then, you might want to speculate on the time span needed to make use of PCIe gen 5 graphic slot ... without the thing requiring more than 350watts (...)
Just kindly warn your audience a day in advance so we can prepare a plate of nachos scarf during the presentation.
;-)
There's an SPDIF header
@@tiger.98 ... and a significantly higher price tag that might trigger the rational part of my brain into ringing the "Not worth it" alarm ...
@@UnhingedBecauseLucid first you said no spdif, now you said significant high price???
@@boboboy8189
The Strix B650E-E is significantly more expensive than the Strix B650E-F ... even if there's a little more to it than a damn SPDIF plug, it's a bit much.
Will wait for a review, and probably a sale...
@@UnhingedBecauseLucidI'm super late to this comment but I believe tiger was saying that the e-f has a spdif header while the e-e has a spdif optical out. So you can still use it on the e-f just need to install via the header instead of the port.
What are the pros/cons of plugging things into those red USB ports on the back? What are they made for? I have a keyboard, mouse, and webcam. What's the best things to plug into those or the best thing to avoid? Thank you.
I propose to buy the cheapest no-name b660 motherboard from aliexpress and try to overclock the RAM on it x)
like JGINYUE B660M
Hey Buildzoid, are you going to make a rambling video about AM5 Asus motherboards soon? I'm really waiting your word on them to make a decision. Haha can't decide which board to choose for my new AM5 build and information around these boards are still very scarce. I'm thinking of going with the Strix B650E-E but I'm afraid the 70 amps on VRMs (vs 110 amps on X670E) wouldn't be enough if I plan to upgrade to some high end cpu on zen 5 in the future. I know this probably will never be answered but thanks anyway for your videos! They are incredibly useful!
If you dont do heavy OC the 70 AMPS will be fine.
The ASP2208 is made by Infineon.
Dang, where are the 2 Dimm fullsized AM5 boards?
Could you do a video of the reference 7900xtx PCB. I'm curious what are your thoughts on it.
Just checked the memory support tab, compared to gigabyte, asus got wayy less support on the list.
Can i even use g skill 6000 cl 30 / 32 when it's not even listed on asus & g skill website? or it won't even boot?
you can use g.skill Trident Z5
Ayy nice.
Why should I pick this one over the Asrock B650 Pro RS, Steel legend, Taichi Lite or the Gigabyte B650 AORUS PRO X?
nice video
I wish that the Zen 4 lineup had at least one mid tier cpu that does make sense in both pricing and performance but the middle stack of the indel 13th gen cpu's butcher any amd cpu other than 7950x and I'd still pick 13900k over it due to superior single threaded performance.
why not making video about Aio coolers?
why we reaching end point in coolers is there any better way?
i found my VDDMISC capacitor(i identified from your video) was stuck by one leg(one pin is broken), my pc runs but i think it's unstable on usage and gaming and probably consume more energy by only running, probably i ill see if is fixable, but if i need to change? which one i need to buy? and is correct what i say from instability?. Thanks
I just bought a rtx 4090 and am in the market for a B650 board for the upcoming 7800x3d. Any recs for board?
strix b650e-e
B650e is perfect for itx version of this. And why does the itx board have 10+2 power stages?
we need ROG STRIX B650E-I GAMING WIFI review
Does anyone know what the button does near the bottom right of the ram slots?
Its a quick release for the GPU.
So what happened if the memory capacitor is blown or missing? Because it happened to me and just found out about it.
Best Z790 boards video when?
: How does W in heat output scale with higher switching freq. on the power stages? I've been thinking about increasing it on my AM4 mobo but I don't know how it will behave.
Best ASMR video ever!
Great video thank BZ
Could you check the tuf b650e? Can't find any info about it, would like to know if it is shit or not.
Really conflicted if I should get this or the B650E-E for my 7950x...
Hi , what is the best budget motheboard for Ryzen 9 3900X now annd i will do OC? ( would ASUS B450M-K be good for the cpu?Thaks in advance
Would you buy this board or the Aorus Elite?
This board and the 7950x or the B650E-E and the 7900x?
Sir is this motherboard futureproof, i mean can it run new amd CPUs released in 2025?
could u talk about the pcb and components inside the 7900xtx? pls
Asrock "has" a b650 matx motherboard with more available pcie lanes than this. (asrock b650m-c) You get 4 more usable lanes and worse rear io and only two sata ports. It is from what I can tell not available anywhere...
Which Asus mobo would you pick for i5-13600k?
This is part of a deal for a 7900x with 64gb of ram should I pick that up? 599.99
You work for gamer nexus dude ?
HI .How many pcb layers has this mobo?
Is it a problem with AMD MB’s being that their OC of memory is lower then Intel, this board maximum is 6400
Did he ever test this board?
5:34 But optical out is the _only_ thing I use internal audio for...
The board has a SPDIF header
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Post? Metal post?