Can you solve the Trojan War riddle? - Dennis E. Shasha

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  • @TEDEd
    @TEDEd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +775

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  • @endarkculi
    @endarkculi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2977

    That's the trick with the Fates: when they say "all will end SOON" rather than "all will end PEACEFULLY", it's almost guaranteed to be a massacre.

    • @833Rowan
      @833Rowan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      still better than 10 long years of despair

    • @kerbe3
      @kerbe3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@833Rowan Yes, instead of ten years of despair, it ends in a single moment as an asteroid destroys the planet. All has ended.

    • @tchaguym
      @tchaguym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      There is definatly someone hidden in the horse

    • @BanermanArthropide
      @BanermanArthropide 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@tchaguym You sure? Idk man
      This is a joke, I know

    • @man5262
      @man5262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kerbe3 more precisely a gift unboxing itself to slit your throat at your weakest

  • @kenjinakamura6470
    @kenjinakamura6470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15457

    Trade offer: You receive - A nice big wooden horse. We receive - Nothing, haha, don't worry about it.

  • @rhxnd.
    @rhxnd. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3758

    When Ares said "...Bla-bla, bla-bla-bla, forgotten prophecy, bla-bla-bla. Bla-bla-bla, SWAP, bla-bla-bla." I felt that.

    • @AbhijayAgarwal
      @AbhijayAgarwal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      When you're happy,you like the music,when you're sad,you understand the lyrics
      If we assume that a sequence of 2 blas equals to 0,and 3 blas equals to 1,in text,that is a,b,c so he is basically saying,a forgotten prophecy,b (be) swap c (see)
      In understandable language,he says "A forgotten prophecy be swapped and seen"
      and that's deep

    • @Wudjja
      @Wudjja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@AbhijayAgarwal how sad are you to reach that conclusion

    • @lunadragonliz
      @lunadragonliz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@AbhijayAgarwal OWO

    • @AbhijayAgarwal
      @AbhijayAgarwal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@lunadragonliz *grabs Thomas the Thermonuclear bomb*

    • @AbhijayAgarwal
      @AbhijayAgarwal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Wudjja I'm hitting sadness levels that shouldn't even be possible

  • @Yarivenra
    @Yarivenra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8920

    The one who solved the puzzle : We did it gentlemen, we have achieved peace.
    Ted-ed : But wait there's more.

  • @drakearrington3150
    @drakearrington3150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3282

    Everybody talking about the Greeks and Trojans while I’m just out here jamming to the elevator music during the countdowns.

    • @TEDEd
      @TEDEd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +902

      It's a bop

    • @clayel1
      @clayel1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@TEDEd its a what

    • @pdpika
      @pdpika 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      @@clayel1 basically saying it's a good song

    • @clayel1
      @clayel1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@pdpika o
      ok

    • @auhsojacosta1672
      @auhsojacosta1672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@TEDEd
      *so it’s a bop then?*
      _dances_

  • @Skully935
    @Skully935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4611

    Ted-Ed: "Can you solve this riddle"
    Me: "No but i'll watch it anyway"

  • @Imirui
    @Imirui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6224

    “All the gods want the war to end”
    Ares: hahah lol what if I made somebody move to disrupt peace hahha

    • @akisa7865
      @akisa7865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

      Zeus: Say sike right now? Where am i gonna throw all these lighting bolts at if it ends?
      Aphrodite: But if it ends Helen won't marry Paris!
      Hades: Personally I'm okay with more souls coming to my domain

    • @aiwanano6507
      @aiwanano6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ^^ lol

    • @samtepal3892
      @samtepal3892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Queen Helga One more soul for hades

    • @Monochrome2004
      @Monochrome2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@akisa7865 something about "say sike right now" in question form is actually making me wheeze

    • @woops9076
      @woops9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure that was Hermes

  • @chesstactics5796
    @chesstactics5796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    5:04
    This lines up nicely with the story, as the fates said that if the truce lasts for ten days, all will end soon. They never said there would be peace. They just said the war wouldnt go on for long, and that there is a possibility one side would have a possibility of a massive victory against the enemy. Thats exactly what happened after the truce. So in other words, you were the one who made the situation that gave the greeks the idea of the trojan horse!

  • @danyelhaskins6210
    @danyelhaskins6210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +625

    TED ED RIDDLES AND ANCIENT GREECE- SOME OF MY FAVORITE THINGS😭😭😭

    • @EvanSawyer4
      @EvanSawyer4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I read it like the song from the sound of music.

  • @starfigures8448
    @starfigures8448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    1:45 I like how the riddle sounds intense right from the beggining then theyu start playing relaxing peacefull music

    • @Mafew0690
      @Mafew0690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I want to know what the song is called lmao

    • @throwtea
      @throwtea ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True

    • @Napsap18
      @Napsap18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is called ‘Fun Fest’ by Klink but all yt versions, spotify versions, and amazon music versions are removed and can only be found on apple music (i think).

    • @Dunswap
      @Dunswap 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mafew0690fr

  • @daviddelille1443
    @daviddelille1443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1149

    There is a way to solve the second riddle with only one move. By opening up the top arm of the Trojan camp (with a diagonal swap), you essentially create a ring of Greeks around the Trojans. Even if you break the ring on one side, it will still be connected on the other side.
    Engineers use this principle to create redundant networks. If you connect nodes (e.g. power stations, data centres) in a ring, any one node/edge failure will not disconnect the graph.
    Edit: (The no-surrounding rule was added after this comment was made.)

    • @tasmanmillen
      @tasmanmillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      woah thats smart

    • @Yusuf-ke5iu
      @Yusuf-ke5iu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ohhhhhhhhhh i see

    • @cyberfoxvii6253
      @cyberfoxvii6253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      *EDIT: Okay, so apparently nobody is reading OP's edit, which CLEARLY states that the no-surrounding rule WAS NOT THERE when these comments were made. The video was EDITED. Capiche? I'm putting this edit at the beginning, just in case it's a matter of people not clicking "Read more". Now, on to my comment from 4 months ago. Which, let me reiterate, was a time when there was no rule against surrounding.*
      Yeah, that's how I did it. I was super confused, wondering what I needed my other swap for, and thought I misunderstood the rules. lol
      Now, if a rule was added that both sides' territory must contact the perimeter, so that neither side is totally surrounded by the other, we'd have a different story.

    • @bananaforscale1283
      @bananaforscale1283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Outsmarting Ted Ed riddle

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh yea, its big brain time

  • @Aiden-xn6wo
    @Aiden-xn6wo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2380

    Step one: Identify that you have green eyes.
    Step two: Ask the war to leave.

    • @gracefulpenguin5912
      @gracefulpenguin5912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Yep! And If you don’t Congrats! You get to fight for another 10 years!

    • @shreeyamittal1771
      @shreeyamittal1771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Seriously? You guys are waaay out of fresh material.

    • @blockyhour4224
      @blockyhour4224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@shreeyamittal1771 it did get kinda old for a bit but now im finding it funny again lol

    • @CuddleFish124
      @CuddleFish124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ...I feel this is some kind of cultural reference that I am not getting 🤨?

    • @Sumirevins
      @Sumirevins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh, you're Genius

  • @RamonMGBatista
    @RamonMGBatista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Okay, but the elevator music? WOW i don't know the editor of this video but they deserve a raise this is *chef's kiss* perfection

    • @aiwanano6507
      @aiwanano6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      they make very good stuff

  • @thesharkormoriantm274
    @thesharkormoriantm274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Fun fact:
    The Māori (New Zealand) tribe of Ngāti Kurī once tried a strategy very similar to the Trojan horse. They made a fake whale carcass using dog skins in order to assault an enemy pā (fortified village). The Māori did not hunt whales, however they fed on the carcasses or dying animals they found at the beach, so when the enemy came to check out the whale's carcass, the Ngāti Kurī warriors who were hiding inside came out and attacked them!

    • @sandradermark8463
      @sandradermark8463 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Curious how there are always similar myths or folktales across cultures and even continents!

    • @rbagas3457
      @rbagas3457 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sandradermark8463there always be as long as human lives and thinking process have simillar pattern. The most easiest way to describe this is “there is nothing new under the sun”

  • @athendity2567
    @athendity2567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    The fates: If peace lasted for 10 days, no war!
    Greek General: Well yes but actually, no

    • @nbyv
      @nbyv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Well, the fates said if the peace lasted ten days, it will be over soon. They however didnt said how it would end

    • @AbhijayAgarwal
      @AbhijayAgarwal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nbyv There's a 65% chance that it will be either a genocide or a massacre

    • @chavaspada
      @chavaspada ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Based Odysseus

  • @chaos5098
    @chaos5098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    Well, a Greek God would just destroy the middle camp

    • @elainegoates9792
      @elainegoates9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wouldn't work

    • @elainegoates9792
      @elainegoates9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@superpeanutcrusade9208 because the Greeks would think the trogins were responsible.

    • @Emily12471
      @Emily12471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@elainegoates9792 exactly why ares would try that

    • @klem9758
      @klem9758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@elainegoates9792 not if we (as I assume we are Athena) trick Zeus into lightning bolting them

    • @elainegoates9792
      @elainegoates9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@klem9758 or ask. Athena is daddy's girl, even if she's way smarter.

  • @ironici
    @ironici 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    "You need to get your contact lenses, but your provider has a task for you to solve before you can get them."
    Fourteen employees are placed randomly on a 23x17 grid. You're at (10,15) and can only see one space in front of you. Employees with blue shirts move like knights in chess. Spaces that are touched a prime number of times are trapped. Employees can only say ozo or ulu...

    • @bustin1946
      @bustin1946 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ensure you have green eyes, the rest is trivial

    • @bitchaos4591
      @bitchaos4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Bustin The contact lenses are green. That's why you are trying to get them.

    • @kohwenxu
      @kohwenxu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      When the riddles are merging together to become a harder riddle

    • @maninimahapatra649
      @maninimahapatra649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's the question lol???

    • @moonythespoonie9551
      @moonythespoonie9551 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@maninimahapatra649 How many rubies can you force the insurance company to hand over?

  • @neilcaezar306
    @neilcaezar306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love the swap at 1:43 from intense music to some bouncy elevator tunes.

    • @comradepancakes956
      @comradepancakes956 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We want the truth what is that song's name?

    • @touhoutrash2436
      @touhoutrash2436 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heyyyyy ummm what is this funky tune?

  • @justanotherguy7107
    @justanotherguy7107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    TedEd: Can you solve the riddle?
    Me: no, no I can't

    • @epsilon1563
      @epsilon1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      #Relatable

    • @DontEatGaming
      @DontEatGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A real 300 IQ+ only riddle

    • @-ZH
      @-ZH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DontEatGaming
      I mean, the first part wasn’t very hard

    • @Cuteasdusks
      @Cuteasdusks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a 1,000,000 iq riddle this is super hard #relatable

    • @aiwanano6507
      @aiwanano6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, lol

  • @donaldseth5492
    @donaldseth5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    For the second one, you could also move the top trojan camp, so that even if the camps block one route, there will always be another for the Greeks to meet one another.
    Edit: This does not work as kindly shown to me by multiple people; as the Trojans would then be surrounding the Greeks, breaking one of the rules for the puzzle.

    • @alexm4808
      @alexm4808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This seems like a simpler solution than the one in the video

    • @saranshgupta3517
      @saranshgupta3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@alexm4808 but if they do that, Trojan lines would be broken. The point is to prevent any Trojan or Greek camps from being disconnected

    • @vipult8138
      @vipult8138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@saranshgupta3517 but they said that the opposing side would move a camp only if it blocked the greek camps

    • @vervixx9272
      @vervixx9272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was thinking the same. you only need to swap 1 camp and your good..
      you can swap it diagonally so you are not breaking the trojan camps.
      and by doing that no matter which "wing" they try to close up you can always go the long way around. since every camp has at least 2 routes to any given camp

    • @GamingKing-jo9py
      @GamingKing-jo9py 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saranshgupta3517 there are no green camps; trojan camps are blue

  • @anns6335
    @anns6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When TED offers a second puzzle: I feel so Trojan now. I didn't see that coming.

  • @johannesvanderhorst9778
    @johannesvanderhorst9778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    With the solution as animated at 4:52 I can imagine the Greek general noticed what was happening. Because one of the Trojan camps which had three Trojan camps besides it could swap with the sole Greek camp at the fourth edge. That way the swapped Greek camp got isolated from the other Greek camps.
    If one instead had swapped the other dangerous camps, which were the camps that had to be swapped diagonally with a Greek camp, maybe nobody had ever heard of The Trojan Horse.

  • @craftyanna2744
    @craftyanna2744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    And fate? No one alive has ever escaped it, neither brave man nor coward,
    I tell you.

    • @Richard_Nickerson
      @Richard_Nickerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's born with us the day that we are born

    • @aiwanano6507
      @aiwanano6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      f

    • @ghostderazgriz
      @ghostderazgriz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is indeed the quote at the beginning of the video yes.

    • @HarshDude126
      @HarshDude126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghostderazgriz Appreciate it.

  • @EntergeticalakaBot
    @EntergeticalakaBot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Dear Trojans, Bla-bla, bla-bla-bla, forgotten prophecy, bla-bla-bla. Bla-bla-bla, SWAP, bla-bla-bla. Eternally yours, ARES
    Hmm, interesting message alright.

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genes message.

    • @bitchaos4591
      @bitchaos4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm convinced.

    • @martinacocca4225
      @martinacocca4225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't undestand the "bla"s, he is speaking the language of gods
      Sorry bad joke

    • @EntergeticalakaBot
      @EntergeticalakaBot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very Intresting.

  • @justaman9344
    @justaman9344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "And left the Trojans a parting gift..."
    Little did the Trojans knew that the parting gift by that certain Greek general would be the reason they lost the war.

  • @vatsalmehta477
    @vatsalmehta477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That intermission music tho......is perfect

  • @animalntaz
    @animalntaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Solved the first riddle, second one sounded and looked confusing with the initial pattern.

    • @smeenakshi8223
      @smeenakshi8223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ikr me too. I was like yesss I solved it and then they pulled the second one 😆😆

    • @stevenh4314
      @stevenh4314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah they should have shown one of the solutions instead of the original one. I got really confused

    • @derekderek7033
      @derekderek7033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @teubank88
    @teubank88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The stories for these problems are just hilarious. I can only imagine the writers: "What about the Trojan war? We can even use the fates and their loom. It'll be great!"
    Solid work, keep at it! 😁

  • @ImagineGeese
    @ImagineGeese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Once again you speak to the fates, and they prophesise the following:
    "The meddling trojan camp is somewhere within four grid spaces of the perimeter of the battlefield"
    *Damn*

  • @harleyhuskey
    @harleyhuskey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the narrator for Ted Ed riddles. His voice is very calming. I can get an hour long video of him reading riddles to fall asleep to, then later solve.

  • @rachaelwade675
    @rachaelwade675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Trojans: we cannot trust anyone outside the walls, anything out there is suspicious
    Also Trojans: oooh, a hollow wooden horse capable of holding enough men for an invasion.

    • @alliinase9076
      @alliinase9076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not nearly enough men inside the horse for an invasion by itself, but enough men to quietly kill the Trojan guards and open the gates after dark. The Trojans aren't anticipating the Greeks to attack during the truce, so they have only a small unit of guards on duty, to keep watch for external threats, to wake up the Trojan army in case the Greek army shows up. Completely blindsided by the threat from within... and just like that, it's GG to the Greeks.

  • @thedavyjones7177
    @thedavyjones7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the few riddles I could actually figure out on my own. The 2nd part you can solve with just one move by moving the top camp so there will always be a path no matter who blocks

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except one of the rules is that neither side can completely surround the other

    • @22dolls19
      @22dolls19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That rule was added afterwards

  • @Sohighsch00l13_ts
    @Sohighsch00l13_ts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    3:59 beautiful elevator music, where do you get such a wonderful piece? 🎶 🎧 ✨💀

  • @Lordeevee
    @Lordeevee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I dunno, that ten days of peace seems like a Trojan Horse...

  • @TheRichmaster24
    @TheRichmaster24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think the fact we're playing Athena is probably one of the harder to believe parts in regards to trying for peace

  • @fangirl7834
    @fangirl7834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know it’s going to be a good day when TED-Ed posts a riddle video 💯

  • @akshaychauhan4346
    @akshaychauhan4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That trojan gift is something that exists to this day. What a legend !!! (literally)

    • @jeremythomas4744
      @jeremythomas4744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The "Greek Gift" is also a move in chess where you sacrifice a piece (most cases a bishop) to bait/weaken the enemy's king safety and checkmate it

    • @akshaychauhan4346
      @akshaychauhan4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeremythomas4744 it's called climbing silver in Naruto.

    • @bearschmidt3180
      @bearschmidt3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akshaychauhan4346 yes it is !

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremythomas4744 yea, but it only counts as greek gift if it is on h7 or h2

  • @seerendipitea
    @seerendipitea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All I can think about is how “I” look so beautiful in the animation. Great job Ted-Ed!

    • @brixs-productions
      @brixs-productions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its based on athena from greek mythology

  • @wazzzuuupkiwi
    @wazzzuuupkiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interestingly, for the second step of the riddle, I took advantage of the fact that the moving camp would have to disrupt both trojans AND greeks. So if you move the two northern trojan camps diagonally southeastwards, they you create a connection between the greek camps that no singular move can undo. Therefore none of the 4 trojan camps that had an option to move before, now can; and elegantly I feel, you don't touch those camps themselves.

  • @twydtt226
    @twydtt226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    music during the rest of the video: ambient, mysterious, dramatic
    music during the pause: 💃👯🕺🎉🎶

  • @kurumi394
    @kurumi394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    As soon as I saw "riddle" I barked like a dog while clicking on the video

    • @iqraakhtar6219
      @iqraakhtar6219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your referencing Trojan queen Hecuba being turned into a dog right

    • @kurumi394
      @kurumi394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iqraakhtar6219 No I saw something along the lines of this in the comment section of another video lol

  • @strangerperson5785
    @strangerperson5785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respect and credit for any person who really tried to solve the riddle for at least one second

  • @shivpatel7506
    @shivpatel7506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Let’s just call Aphrodite and put an end to it

    • @theali8oras274
      @theali8oras274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      if i remember correctly from 7th grade , aphrodite partook the fighting and got wounded in the arm once

    • @thundersheild926
      @thundersheild926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@theali8oras274 also, she was the one pretty much directly responsible for the war do to her kidnapping Helen.

    • @Ragazaloth
      @Ragazaloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@theali8oras274 she was more like a medic, picking up wounded dudes and saving them, one of them was aeneas from the aeneid
      also yes diomedes threw a spear and wounded her hand

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      she basically started it...

    • @nottletottle
      @nottletottle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theali8oras274 her and ares. I think it was Diomedes who hurt them both. My favorite hero right after Odysseus

  • @mirashards458
    @mirashards458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t usually comment, but Ted-Ed’s videos are always my favorites to watch. The animation, the narration, the lesson 10/10 👏

  • @warlord4713
    @warlord4713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lol, I am so happy, I just solved my first TedEd riddle, this was an easy one, but it still feels magnificent

  • @giboi03
    @giboi03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fates: "Oh, yeah, this war can stop if the truce can AT LEAST last the whole day"
    Also fates: "Should we tell them it's gonna last 10 more years, anyways?"

  • @khushalagrawal8924
    @khushalagrawal8924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Everytime when teded uploads a riddle,
    Me: I cant, but still lets go and watch it!

  • @inviscwiz2472
    @inviscwiz2472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The second question should be like this;
    - The defecting camp is within 4 spaces of the border **before the first 6 swap from the first question**
    .
    - This means the blue camp at the center (row6, column5) could be the defecting camp, which create much more trouble.
    - You need to swap 1 time on the top to open a path connecting yellow camps into a ring, to counter the possibility of closing the right and bottom at the same time.
    - But then, you only have 1 swap left. How can you counter the center blue camp if it's a defecting camp? If you do nothing, it will swap with it's left yellow camp and that yellow camp will be surrounded by blue in all 4 directions. But if you swap that yellow camp with other blue camp to prevent that strategy, the center blue camp will be surrounded by blue in all 4 directions insteand and then it can swap diagonally with any yellow camp to isolate it.
    - This became seemingly impossible, but there is an unexpected solution.
    ( Pause here if you want to figure out for yourself )
    .
    .
    .
    .
    The solution to this version is; swap that center blue camp (row6, column5) with other blue camp on the right or bottom! Because they are guaranteed non-defecting blue camps. It makes the critical blue camp on the junction free of sus, thus impossible to make any yellow camp isolated. And the 2nd swap is used to open the top path as said.

  • @yomer355
    @yomer355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The second question is so confusing. Are the camps in their initial position again? If so, how do I keep them "arranged so that any soldier can move to any ally", if they're not arranged like that yet?

    • @andrejors9501
      @andrejors9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      yeah actually the image on 3:55 is what made it confusing.. because if you only hear the narrations/story, it's pretty clear that you continued on the swapped position

    • @jozenne0018
      @jozenne0018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The reason they are not showing the swapped position is because there are multiple solutions to the first half of the riddle, & therefore you have to solve the riddle from your place. Since the video does not know what that is they have to resort to an image that can give a general idea of how to solve.

    • @peterram9
      @peterram9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jozenne0018 That's still confusing. TED should have used the solution they originally showed as the example......And the expression "within 4 spaces of the perimeter" was confusing too with the pic. Is it outside the shaded x-ed off area or inside of it? took me a while to figure out the correction interpretation.

    • @geertien
      @geertien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jozenne0018 They still use only their solution to explain the answer. So it does not yield any benefit that they don’t use that one in the “solve it yourself” part.

    • @jozenne0018
      @jozenne0018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geertien You could just look at the Status Quo you got or go back to an earlier section of the video to see what camps are where. It probably does not matter much anyway that they are only using their answer since the other once are likely similiar

  • @innitheotaku3883
    @innitheotaku3883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever makes this riddles has a incredible talent to create elaborate contexts for what is basically just math problems

  • @shivajidhawale5475
    @shivajidhawale5475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Well a riddle after a long time! Thanks Ted-ed!!!
    Edit: Noice.
    Edit 2: nvm someone ruined it

  • @aeronelorenzo9897
    @aeronelorenzo9897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have read all of your riddles and was thankful that a new one came! Good Job Ted-ed!

  • @joyalpatel9104
    @joyalpatel9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Damn... I solved these ted-ed riddles back when I was 11-15 (nostalgia noon)
    Thanks for bringing this back after a long time.

    • @yomer355
      @yomer355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They never stopped posting them.

    • @joyalpatel9104
      @joyalpatel9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yomer355 I am sorry, I meant like.. it's been recommended to me now
      I didn't even really remember them until this came up in my rec

  • @harshvardhan4766
    @harshvardhan4766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This riddles go to a whole new level

  • @aronpacino8009
    @aronpacino8009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I got the first one, but on 3:54, there's a new layout (I assumed that the swapping was not done before the thought of defection arose) but on 4:03, apparently, we still have to use the earlier set-up. That was my initial thought to, I was confused for the new layout for the second part.

  • @mistercraftandstitch
    @mistercraftandstitch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proud of myself for solving both of these!

    • @Laileb8888
      @Laileb8888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same!

  • @justsomeoneelse5942
    @justsomeoneelse5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3:13 people writing an important email be like

  • @dulcedog7589
    @dulcedog7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the only one where the cryptic clues and the perfect logic make sense

  • @thundersheild926
    @thundersheild926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For the second riddle, you only to move one camp. If you move the camp at the end of whichever Trojan line is fully intact, the Greeks will have passage through all 4 sides. Now, even if one camp were to shift, there would still be 3 paths open.

    • @aandreixon
      @aandreixon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would break the 6th rule

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neither side can completely surround the other

    • @franzicoy
      @franzicoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the rule applies after THE CAMP swaps, not after YOU swap.

  • @JoaoLucas-fo8gv
    @JoaoLucas-fo8gv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ares sure has some amazing writing skills

  • @NetheriteMiner
    @NetheriteMiner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice! I finally solved a TED-Ed puzzle, granted it was only the second one, the arguably easier one, but still!

  • @TheOnlyName
    @TheOnlyName 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These riddles are why I subscribed to this channel!

  • @IamStrikareaYsALT
    @IamStrikareaYsALT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how on every video, there’s at least one joke about the Green-eye riddle and one more miscellaneous.

  • @carealoo744
    @carealoo744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Riddle: "You can't move diagonally."
    Solution: "Move them diagonally."

  • @jazurawarrior6732
    @jazurawarrior6732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm gonna need a whole album of that waiting music please 💳

  • @dulcedog7589
    @dulcedog7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES I FINALLY SOLVED… half of the riddle!

  • @TakanashiYuuji
    @TakanashiYuuji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2nd puzzle: you only need to move the top blue camp. Maybe there's an extra rule that the trojans can't become surrounded?

  • @louie.4047
    @louie.4047 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the dramatic story, plus the game show waiting music during the rules

  • @pauls.2532
    @pauls.2532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:31 solution: swastika

  • @hunteryeager6116
    @hunteryeager6116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everytime a TedEd riddle is uploaded, an angel grows it's wings

  • @2bfrank657
    @2bfrank657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The second riddle was somewhat frustrating for me. I had to rewind to work out which side was blue and which was yellow since it wasn't explained in the written rules, then the way the center was shaded made it hard to tell how the campus were arranged there (rules did not allow the defecting camp to be in the center initially, but did allow it to move there), and finally, when paused, the bottom of the list of rules is blocked by the title of the video that TH-cam decides to put up when the video is paused. I liked the riddle, but more effort could be put into its presentation.

  • @DBE_TheZek
    @DBE_TheZek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first saw the video, I heard “If the truce continues for ten days, all will end soon” and assumed they meant some Greek apocalypse would occur, so I naturally considered how to cause war as quickly as possible.

  • @penguin3961
    @penguin3961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Fates: Hold a knife instead of a scissors.

  • @ratoim
    @ratoim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "all will end soon"
    Gotta love those ambiguous phrasings

  • @spike9525
    @spike9525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how they show quotes before starting the video

  • @Shazistic
    @Shazistic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't be afraid of losing people ,Be afraid of losing yourself by trying to please everyone

    • @vatsalmehta477
      @vatsalmehta477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh you are first

    • @Shazistic
      @Shazistic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vatsalmehta477 I should get an award 🤣🤣

  • @daschlubbster
    @daschlubbster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay but....This waiting music is bussin- Release a whole track please *heart eyes*

  • @dzuhhh
    @dzuhhh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah yes, riddles no one actually answered (mostly😁), yet we watch it because we wonder what is the solution🤦‍♀

  • @alexgore2004
    @alexgore2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dude has the greatest voice of all time

  • @Blonkybuster69
    @Blonkybuster69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Why do I feel like this puzzle is themed around the Palestine and israel truce ? I remember it got broken because of the positions they held as well, what a coincidence.

  • @nb_bucky_my_beloved
    @nb_bucky_my_beloved 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally!!!!!! I'm able to do a Ted Ed riddle all my myself!! Achievement Accomplished.

  • @jamesdeandaydream
    @jamesdeandaydream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Haven't watched the video, but here's the answer: Arson. Set that horse on fire

    • @Nuclearburrit0
      @Nuclearburrit0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ok so there's no Horse but Arson is still a valid solution anyways.

  • @arushisarmah4592
    @arushisarmah4592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first Ted ED riddle I have ever been able to solve.

  • @cjtimmons5498
    @cjtimmons5498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    who only likes this video because its hard and you never solve it?

  • @randomanon2999
    @randomanon2999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took me a bit to wrap my head around the rules, especially the second puzzle. But I'm proud I was able to solve them both.

  • @निखिलशांडिल्य
    @निखिलशांडिल्य 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No we don't because we are having better work to do.

  • @rahnal21
    @rahnal21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the random music that plays during the screen showing the rules

  • @darnellmartin9558
    @darnellmartin9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The answer is simple, ask Athena the goddess of wisdom, like she should be on Mount Olympus.

    • @briancatmaster
      @briancatmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we are her.

    • @SpyrosKoronis
      @SpyrosKoronis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The helmet, opposition to Ares, and implication that we are smart enough to solve the riddles of the Fates imply that we are Athena.

  • @toyaleejb7714
    @toyaleejb7714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the music is intense for during the plot part of the riddle then when it asks us to solve✨✨ soft jazz elevator music✨✨

  • @DamnThisAllNow
    @DamnThisAllNow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:58 should have used the solved board for clarity, it seems to imply that you have to solve it from the beginning with only two moves, which would be impossible, you even use the solved board in 4:21 on the explanation.
    Still another great puzzle!

    • @kiren3168
      @kiren3168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. Seriously wasted my time confused

  • @super_7710
    @super_7710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First I simplified the puzzle by trimming off the edges. Then, with a smaller map, I tried experimenting with replacing the middle greek hut with a trojan hut as if that one was trojan, you'd have a much easier time. You'll notice one of the four rows of trojan is shorter than the rest so I swapped the hut from that side and then realised I could shift them all down and right one to connect them all. Then I just need to make sure that the greeks are connected which is easily done with swapping two of the trojans on the end with two greeks touching the trojan rows.

  • @typha
    @typha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:55 those are not all the possibilities. For some reason you neglected all the ones where the topmost and bottommost camps are moved simultaneously (another 8 ways)
    3:55 on this summary page you should really be displaying one of the modified camp arrangements from before.

  • @IrishSoupCan
    @IrishSoupCan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just use these for my D&D Campaigns

  • @protrigger9952
    @protrigger9952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    0:22 That's exactly why COVID 19 started Y'all

  • @vitowidjojo7038
    @vitowidjojo7038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Name more iconic duo than Ted Ed and Greek riddles.

  • @emilypiens2355
    @emilypiens2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so for the 2nd part (4:03 if you wanna see the grid), can someone explain to me why we can't just open up the top part as well with one diagonal swap? (exactly like we did with the others)
    that way, no matter what camp was plotting to close down a passage way there will always be an alternative route right?

    • @ChrisHall8908
      @ChrisHall8908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was my first thought after looking at it for a while. I can't think of any reason that shouldn't be a valid solution.

    • @ManniDoan
      @ManniDoan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That could technically be the defecting camp (since it's unknown), so if you move them, they can just move back later.

    • @emilypiens2355
      @emilypiens2355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManniDoan wel yes, but then there still is the original path for all the Greek camps to move between each other

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because that would mean that the Trojans were completely surrounded by the Greeks

  • @licoricebonbon
    @licoricebonbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that this riddle was a two-in-one!

  • @uncanadien3272
    @uncanadien3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn’t recognise that the greeks were in yellow might have needed to be written in the rules since i automatically assumed they were blue and spent ages thinking it was impossible

  • @seven368
    @seven368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    greek mythology n ted ed riddles are the highlight of my life