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@@recharge6696 hey checkout The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. You will find your answer
Thank you for your videos. They are always so well-done and I love your animations! Cute, humorous when appropriate, and always so informative. Much love!
Thank you.. 👍😼😸
Joseph Stalin Knew about the atomic bomb before Vice President Harry S Truman due to soviet spies throughout the US government including The White House.
That kid is also one of the hero's here for clearing the captain's name. Who says you can't learn anything from movies
He sure did a Man's Job there!
The highest thanks for Him!
That warms my heart, taking care of someone's name after they've passed is something not anyone would put effort in doing. I can't imagine what the captain had to go through, if there is any form of afterlife I hope he can finally rest in peace.
That kid is quite something indeed. A man of honor.
That kid had awesome researching skills! I wonder what he did after that?
How about the 3 superior officers who ignored the distress? If anyone should have been court martialed, it was they.
I’m sure they got promoted…
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He mentioned in the video that only 40 years later the declassified documents revealed that they actually received the distress signal and nothing happened of them, until then they told everyone that the ship couldn't send a distress signal coz the radio equipment was damaged,so not only they never punished those officers,they actively hid the fact that they actually received a distress signal.Pure corruption in the entire chain of command hidden behind the bravery of the soldiers and their families who actually suffered because of the war .
Arbitrariness in the circles of higher-ups, be it officials, the military, and the like, is like an annoying infection in the history of most peoples, leaving its outrageous mark. Although the problem here...mainly lies in people who most often believe that they are above their conscience when they reach high positions. The harsh truth of life, bro 😮💨
True enough, a Court Marshall would have been in order but when a ship like that is 4 days or so late to port, someone should have noticed
It sounds unbelievable but I personally knew a survivor from this horrible tragedy. His name was Joe and he lived in Brooklyn. He was married to my father-in-law's sister. Needless to say, he had to live the rest of his life on disability because he was in no condition to work. As a veteran myself, I had the highest of respect for this hero. Thank you for remembering this and sharing it with all of us.
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Lulz.
I find them to be useful idiots for the powerful elits.we don't have to have these wars if people were actually educated and knew the truth.
It doesn’t sound unbelievable at all. It sounds like an honor!
The story of the kid getting the captain exonerated is absolutely crazy 🤯
I couldn’t imagine surviving a torpedo explosion, a war ship sinking, hypothermia & dehydration, only to get yanked underwater & eaten alive. 😔 Wow that’s rough
The survivors fed the dead to sharks. It was horrific.
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It's giving back to nature.
@@van3158 I actually was thinking the number of dead attributed to sharks seemed rather low.
Using already dead bodies to distract them away from the living would explain it to some extent.
Pretty cool to survive that tho
A note for the last part. Politicians start wars. The troops fight it. In the end. The troops on both sides are the same. Pawns in a game of politics. When we understand that as warriors. We get some of the most remarkable events in war. From a Confederate soldier helping wounded Union soldiers of the American Civil War. To the Germans and British playing Football (Soccer) on the western front of World War One.
"The troops on both sides are the same"
Yes, they are a bunch of strangers, who mistakenly believe that they are part of a nation and a shared destiny. In truth, their societies are merely imposed communities where each person is shackled by an artificial system that goes against our natural instincts and biology nature. They are system-slaves.
Very wonderful telling of thos sad story. You probably already know this but some viewers may not. During Capt. McVeys court martial the NAVY actually brought in to testify against McVey the Japanese commander of the sub. He had shadowed the Indianapolis on the way to Tinian and thought he had lost such a great target. But when she headed out to the Philippines he sighted her again. He clarofied they were not zig zagging. He also stated it would not have mattered in any way. He knew what he was doing and he jad a good crew and they sank the enemy ship. The NAVY used this as evidence to make McVey a scapegoat. Most of his crew and even the Japanese at the time could not believe that they prosecuted a capt. for losing his ship to enemy action. Then after the fact trying to cover up the neglegence of the NAVY to list the Indy's non arrival and disregarding the SOS. Yes he was exhonerated many years after the fact but the man was ruined and ended his own life. This part always pisses me off.
OH WELL 😅
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So what happened to the Drunk, the Do Not Disturb Jerk, and The It Might Be A Japanese Ruse Clueless? Were they rightly made Permanent Latrine Orderlies? Given permanent shovel-out the horse stalls for the Cavalry? Something worse, hopefully?
This is standard operating procedure for the Navy.
There should be no statute of limitations on bigheaded brass that thinks other Americans lives didn’t matter
My paternal grandfather was an Irish merchant mariner during WWII. He was a radio operator, bouncing signals for the allies whenever possible, warning ships of submarines. I asked him about this sinking, he was disgusted. "What's the point of a radio man if you don't listen to him?" he would ask. "All those young men, waiting to die." Then he'd cry.
No one cares
@@itsFETTT You care enough to comment
In 6th grade, I read a book on the USS Indianapolis and did a subsequent book report. As part of the report, I gave a presentation to the class. After hearing my report, my teacher brought her father to class to give his own story a few weeks later. It turns out, my teacher’s father was not only on board the USS Indianapolis when the kamikaze’s bomb punched a hole through the ship, he was sitting in the mess hall, at the table the bomb went through! Luckily for him, he was given leave before the ship’s last voyage and even was put under investigation to find out why he wasn’t on the ship. He was found to have comply with all rules and was exonerated of any wrongdoing.
I have a question if your teacher's father was sitting in the mess hall. Yet he was given leave before the last voyage so wasn't on the ship. Isn't this a contradiction? Either your on board or not there is nothing in between.
@@ltejano7512 nope, when the bomb went through the mess hall, the ship had to return to port to be repaired. That is when her dad was given leave.
@@zack7736 OK, thanks. So he was not on board for the final mission.
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They were two separate events. The Kamikaze-bomb that struck the ship was not the impact that caused the ship to sink. That was an attack by a Japanese submarine 5 months later.
A relative of mine was on the Indianapolis when it sank. He never spoke about how he survived or about anything he did during the war. It's horrifying to think about what these men went through. I can only imagine the terror and uncertainty while waiting for help. RIP to the sailors!
We're in the Same dark club.
I've read a lot that survivors didn't talk about the experience and who can blame them? It's one of the scariest, taxing (mind and body) and horrendous positions someone could ever be in.
Cap
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It was an unimaginable horror.
Thank you for covering this. As a former Navy man myself, I hold a special place in my heart for those brave men.
Chair force
I was on a frigate when it got attacked by a gray whale.
Did not do the whale much good.
Also did not do the sonar dome much good.
Cracked and bent the propeller and bent the shaft strut.
3 days after the ship got out the yard from a major overhaul.
My best friend's Dad, a Naval retiree, was part of a Navy ship's crew (forget the name of the ship) that recovered both survivors and bodies. I didn't know about that- he never spoke of it- until I, an Army Combat Medic, returned from 11 months in Iraq. He waited until my friend, his son, was out of the room, and spoke, quietly, about recovering the dead, and "the slippage," as he called it- the moment when one is recovering/bringing a body up, and it just falls apart and slips its skin, and falls back, into the water. That was in about 2006/2007, and it still haunted him. RIP James!
I took care of a USS Indianapolis survivor in the 90s. He couldn't remember his kids, but he remembered being in the water after the ship went down almost 55 years before.
That trauma went deep.
a very striking sentence
I used to do home visits with IU Hospital in Lafayette IN. I had a patient that was part of the testing of the bomb prior to WW2. He said everyone who was on the deck of the ship was exposed to massive amounts of radiation during testing. He said we were miles and miles away from the island during the testing . He said he was the only one left out of all of them and all had had multiple cancers. He had to have his bladder and rectum removed when he was in his 40”s. He said anyone below deck during testing seemed to be spared. 😢He died at age 87. He was a really cool person and I enjoyed hearing about his life. It puts things into perspective for sure.
My grandfather, AVM D E (Ted) Hawkins CB, CBE, DFC*, was a Catalina pilot in the Mediterranean in WWII. He depth charged and sank an Italian submarine. When he saw survivors in the water, he landed on the sea to try and rescue them. Unfortunately, this broke the back of the plane. On return to base, he was reprimanded for breaking orders and so damaging his aircraft. However, he was also awarded the DFC for his actions that day. This story today reminded me of Grandpa’s story.
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Thank you Thoughty2. This was terrible to hear about the fate of those men. But you ended it on a heart-warming note.
I paused & inlarged the letters & it brought tears. My dad was in that war, in the army. He Never talked about it even when asked. His answer when asked what did you do in the war, was always "peeled potatoes", Done! He did say he was in the motor pool (whatever that is) I guess war is not something to talk about😢
My grandfather survived that shipwreck, and another. Agent orange took him in 1992, spent 40 years in the Navy. He only had a few years to enjoy his retirement.
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He was on the Indianapolis? Tell us what he said. You can't just say that and not tell us
@@SpaceRanger187 That's a silly statement. It's common for war vets to not talk about their time in the war with family at all. My great grandfather was a POW in WWII and he was in that group.
Can't blame them for not wanting to speak of those times. I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch for a survivor from a Naval wreck to be similar.
It's pretty fucked to push for stories that aren't freely given involving PTSD enducing FUBAR situations.
@@ihateusernamesgrrr Beat me to it.
@@ihateusernamesgrrr At no point did he say his grandpa didn't want to talk about it..I love how internet people think they are so smart and know everything about everyone off of one sentence online.
So the ship that circumstantially transported the atomic bombs was attacked with all of the crew that would have had direct information and witness to the transport and implementation thereof, in hostile waters where not only was he not informed, but the captain had requested and been denied equipment to account for enemy subs, after a directive had been issued where large combat ships did not have to be reported and thus gave plausible deniability to the guy who did not report the nonarrival of the ship that circumstantially held the most important payload in naval history...and 3 outlets received the distressed call and each had some reason to which everyon of them ignored it...I wonder why conspiracy theories exist that cast suspicion on how our government operates in our best interest...
I used to immediately discount things like this as weird coincidences, but not anymore... everything our government does or doesn't do should be questioned.
When my oldest was 14 she joined the US Navy’s “Sea Cadets”. The remaining survivors used to meet once a year, here in Indianapolis IN. We all had the honor of meeting the remaining survivors. My daughter got to help assist those gentlemen from the back, where they were introduced by name, up to their seats up front.
It was an incredible experience that we got to participate in for 3 years. The most incredible experience we had was during the second conference we attended. There was a lone Japanese woman with her 10(?) yr old son in attendance. It turned out that she is the granddaughter of the captain of the submarine that fired the torpedo on the USS Indianapolis! We got to meet her and her son. Despite the slight language barrier we all knew what what each was trying to convey to the other. I’ll have to find the pics we took.
Worst thing about that story is the sailors back then were taught to slap the water to scare off the sharks, As we know now that actually attracts sharks because they think it sounds like dying fish! Ooops, A nasty fail from whoever was in charge. Love your channel. Keep on trucking 😉
I would think the danger reason would be more like it sounding like a seal's flipper slapping the surface. I wouldn't think fish would regularly flop to the surface to die. But, yeah, it was definitely a stupid thing to teach, like climbing a tree to escape bears.
@@SgtSupamanin those waters, there are actually jumping fish.
My dear friend is an honorary member of the Indianapolis survivor group (of which only 1 survivor remains) due in no small part to her tireless efforts to commemorate their ordeal. I am honored to have been bestowed an autographed copy of the historical account 'In Harm's Way' by her.
My grandfather was in the Pacific during WW2. One story he told was pulling sailors from the water (for 3 days, +) and when pulling them FROM the water, skin was waterlogged and would slide off the body.
That's called skin-slip. Degloving, if you will.
The two last survivors of the accident writing each other is the best part of the story. When i was stationed in Germany i trained with German soldiers every once in awhile but we ate at the same place most days, i couldn't believe how much i liked some of them and how much they were just like me, only born somewhere else. As an american we're supposed to be proud of our country, but everyone born anywhere else feels the same way. I truly wish we could end all wars but government profit too much from them.
People don't understand how unbelievably tricky it was to land that plane in the open ocean . The bravery of that plane should never be overlooked. With random swells that could reach 20-40ft tall and easily could wipe the plane out took a hell of a lot of guts . When put in unbelievably terrible situations our boys /girls in the military make those hard choices without even thinking twice . This is a story of brave men in awful circumstances . God bless all the souls who fought in ww2
A typical case of punishing others wrongly in order to save face. As somebody in the UK, we're hearing about that a lot right now (Post Office)
My moms uncle was on the Indianapolis, survived the attack but passed several days later. While I never met him, the thought of what all happened absolutely haunts me. This is actually hard to listen too.
Quint's monologue about the Indianapolis in Jaws is not merely Spielberg's favorite, it is one of the greatest scenes in the history of American cinema.
It's my understanding that Robert Shaw himself wrote the narrative for that part of the script, because he knew the story very well (not sure why).
Spielberg was so awe-struck by the presentation, it only took one take to nail it. Apparently, Dreyfuss and Schneider asked for a time out after Shaw did his spiel, because the story upset them so much they couldn't remember their lines following.
I concur. Slighty-Hollywooded by the "no distress signal" bit, but it is one of the greatest scenes in all of American cinema. The biggest problem of it was it made it seem everyone who died died from a shark, which simply is not true
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
My great uncle was Admiral George McFadden O'Rear and was Captain of the USS Arkansas battleship at the battle of Iwo Jima and was awarded the Legion of Merit for that battle and was a friend of Captain Mcvay and he always said he got a raw deal and even spoke up for him.
I learned about the loss of the Indianapolis around 50 years ago, then just a few years later read a novel about a fictitious ship that delivered the bombs to Tinian. As it sailed back to the east, my heart sank as I realized what they had in store...
Poor captain poor sailors well done kid you proved them wrong 😮
I swear I end up crying every time I hear this story. This time is no different. Thank you for remembering them. You did it honorably.
I was surprised to find myself getting hit in the feels several times too. It's very emotional. 😥
I knew a bit "about" the story, but almost none of the significant details. It seriously makes me think about trying to write a screenplay... there's at LEAST three stories to be told at length here. 😳
@@DaellusKnights Give it a go. Creativity is always a good thing and the stories here shouldn't ever be forgotten. I'm not sure, but I do think a movie was made of the tragedy a very long time ago, '50s? 60s?. I learned of the story when I was in high school and I'm 71 now. I was appalled at the way the whole thing played out, the waste of life in war, the ship going down, and the horror of the shark attacks, being reduced to being shark bait because of inept leadership and communication. What is so horrifying for me is that I can imagine being there, being part of it, in the water, being eaten alive and bleeding out after waiting for rescue and none coming, watching the men I served with being taken in a multitude of ways and it finally being my turn. I don't know how, but somehow I feel deeply connected to this particular naval tragedy. Past life maybe, if reincarnation is a real thing? Who knows? I sure don't. Do your damnedest. I'd love to see your work on the screen or at least in a play.
@@Dragonalynn sadly, I'm notoriously bad at finishing things I start... I'm a dabbler. 😅
I'm 47, but I used to write extensively and this is kinda waking up that old itch. I already have three stories in my head: 1) the story from the soldiers'/boat's point of view, 2) separately just an extended retelling of the plane pilot's part in the rescue, 3) a flashback retelling from the kid's point of view as he learns the story and so on
Oh! 4) a sightly fictionalized flashback of the two survivors contacting each other and telling the story through their recollection
Ohmywow... This thing has really taken up free rent in my head 😂
@@Dragonalynn also, just found out the 2016 movie Men of Courage is actually about this.
I love Nick Cage but that is just the WRONG choice 😱🤣
Gonna watch it anyway
@@Dragonalynn and apparently, Roger Ebert agrees with me 😂
Aron, really good video. I remembering learning about this story in school. Such a terrible and sad event. So many sailors died because the very top didn't care enough and then blamed the captain on top of their ignorance. Plus a 10 million dollar ship sank! It goes to show, even today, the bottom suffer, while the rich eat caviar and relax in luxury
It's completely amazing that over 300 men did survive. Marx was instrumental in that number of sailors making it home, and he disobeyed orders to do it. McVey was totally railroaded. Thanks for bringing this tragedy to light.
Marks. McVay.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc Groucho. Christine
Thank you for this one, Thoughty2. I had not known about the fate of the ships captain - talk about unfair! Also, you caught me off-guard with that last detail and got me a bit teary eyed. There is always room for forgiveness, it would seem.
The Captain's tale is unfortunately not unique, either. Look up the tragic story behind The Monkees' song "Admiral Mike", for instance...
The war wasn’t over when this happened. The Japanese were doing their duty to their country.
My grandfather experienced something similar. His plane got downed, and no one came to rescue them. All the while their was a British ship circling them. If memory serves me correctly, it took the ship 5 days to a week to actually pick them up. When he got back stateside, he refused to go in a plane or on the water.
My grandfather served on Australian escoort ships escorting larger US ships to and from Hawaii - from Asian waters. It was a highly dangerous job, he was a gunner, and its they were always the first specific target on a ship for any japanese planes coming their way. He did not return with many mates, and never talked about it.
@@roxannlegg750my uncle died on an Australian warship during Vietnam. He was a gunner- one of two only killed as yes, they were targeted.
The craziest thing about this entire story is that whitetips and tiger sharks don't eat humans. There is FAR too much iron in our blood and it prevents almost ALL breeds of sharks from removing the salt in their blood via osmosis. Afaik nurse sharks, and only like three others can consume large amounts of iron but those are extra scary because they can survive and even thrive in brakish and fresh water.
The things one learns during Shark Week.
Tiger and White Tip tsharks are counted in numerous shark attacks in low visibility water where they take a "test bite" to check what the victim is. These test bit often result in the victim bleeding out, even if the victim isn't eventually consumed.
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I think "Shark bytes" is more trustworthy.
As a norwegian soldier (infanterist) i have always had an interest in ships from ww2 and naval battles that took place then, my respects to the men of Indianapolis, and my condolences to anyone watching this video that had a family member or a loved one that went along with the ship. Hashimoto aswell that testified and defended McVay that eventually exonerated him. I myself was a huge nerd about D-day when i was 12. Got an A in history for my presentation about it, documenting both the preparation of the allies and the germans in both plans of attack, defence, and the equipment that was designed to carry out the invation, but what Hunter Scott accomplished is way too impressive, actually proving McVay's innocence at that age. Thank you Thoughty2 for making this video, it touched my heart seeing how it all went down, tragic but still with a touching end with former enemies treating eachother with respect as warriors and as friends.
This tragedy was a tragedy caused by so many errors. The sailors that died were literally thrown to the sharks due to gross neglance on the part of the united states navy.
And decades later they keep the tradition of throwing soldiers lives away by negligence as soon as they aren’t needed anymore very much strong.
Why were the 3 captains not punished for neglectful duty? To punish the captain for enemy attack was negligence!
Tragedies are allways caused by human failures and errors. Therefor I think we should stop planning to colonise the universe. Only with robots. Not with real people. There is way too much failing in every branch.
So basically once the ship was hit the soldiers became Veterans and they no longer cared about them. Seems about right
This is both harrowing and touching at the same time. Thank you, Arran.
How is this not a movie already?! Or more?! There's at least THREE whole stories in this that would easily make excellent big screen presentations... 😳
Spielberg needs to make it, call it “Jaws: Indianapolis” with a young Quint as the main character.
@@steveschritz1823 check out this movie
@@steveschritz1823 or maybe Scorsese, one last great one before he ages out 😅
But seriously, I've written in the past... I'm kinda getting the notion to start researching and see if there's a screenplay somewhere in my head
There is one. I think it got forgotten because it stars Nicolas Cage.
@@steveschritz1823 I came up with exactly the same idea, independently, four hours after you posted. My acknowledgments to you, sir.
You'd mentioned in a previous video about wanting to improve the animation, this has some of the finest yet. I played Major Theodore "Dutch" Van Kirk, Navigator of Enola Gay in a stage play based on My Sadako And Her Paper Cranes, and did a lot of research on him and watched as many interviews with him as I could find. I learnt a lot about the logistics and the flight, and how closely they worked with The Manhattan Project in order to carry out operations as quickly as possible. While I've known about The Indianapolis, I hadn't heard the entire story as presented here, and with that final communication between the two last survivors of the incident. Well, unless there's a very old oceanic white tip out there in The South Pacific.
My favorite part of the movie is when he says “its Oppenheimering time” and oppenheimers all over the place
Especially after he just had that 3some with Florence Pugh and Emily Blunt. Crazy
It's getting kinda old
Everyone in the cinema cheered at that part.
@@agentperry8347it’s the first time I’ve ever heard it so get oppenheimered loser
It made my heart warm seeing the Morbius memes are still going
Years ago( probably 2009-2011) I was fortunate enough to meat and listen to USMC Sgt. Edgar Harrell tell this entire story to us from his own experience. He was the last surviving Marine from the USS Indianapolis. I purchased and was able to get autographed a copy of his book “Out of Depths” which I revere and suggest as a must read. This story is one of great tragedy.
when in the last sea battle in December 1943, the German battleship Scharnhorst was sunk at the North Atlantic sea approx 2000 sailor went under. rescue was started by the British ships but they manageing to get only 32 people out of the water. the command ship of the battle HMS Belfast is surviving in London up today
i have learned so many things with your documentaries especially in this episode considering that I am from the Philippines with much history of the two world wars... thank you so much for your endeavor and I am looking forward for future documentaries... keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow i dont know why but that last bit really hit me in the feels . Had to wipe the tears from my eyes on this one. Outstanding story
Thank you for reminding this generation of the sacrifices so many Servicemen have done to make this country a free one. We must continue to fight and die for freedom !
My grandfather had a photo of him "crossing the line ". He was in a red one piece long underwear with a pitchfork and devil horns, and all the guys around him were cheering, such a great picture! My grandfather was so traumatized by his time in the south pacific he couldn't or wouldn't talk about it. He wouldn't go near water either, no fishing etc
You've managed to perfectly capture the sense of horror experienced by the men of the USS Indianapolis, while also providing a comprehensive history of the vessel.
Why did that last bit have me crying my eyes out 😭😭😭
I used to live 5 minutes walking distance from the Battleship Iowa and it was a sight that never lessened its impressiveness. Could see it from my apartment as I was on the 9th floor. Massive ship.
There was a man who was head of the local draft board for Denver, Colorado during WW2. He had the largest dairy farm in Colorado. He had two sons. He had to decide which son would stay home to work on the farm and which would go to war. The one brother was on the USS Indianapolis thru the whole war. He worked in the engine room and was lost. The other brother is my grandfather. My great grandfather never spoke of the war all the time I knew him. He died at the age of 95 in Battleground Washington. My grandfather spoke only once about it and I will not repeat what he said about it. The only time I saw my grandfather's eyes rage. It was a terrible tragedy.
If you watch Jaws backwards, you’ll see it’s a heartwarming story of a shark that gives legs to those that have none.
Excellent telling of an amazing story, Aron! This was one of your best videos.
I can only imagine that at an age where the last surviving member of the Indianapolis was the point where you can find a new perspective on forgiveness and upon doing so was able to write such a letter to the other last remaining survivor of the submarine that brought down the ship. I suppose wisdom does often come with age, and along with that so does the overall importance of things that weren’t truly your fight. They were serving their country, not protecting their honor. There’s a difference there. Aside from that I applaud the man for doing so.
Im being 100% serious when I say my great grandfather was serving in ww2. He was in the Navy and similar to this the ship was destroyed leaving him fighting against the cold and sharks. He was saved by dolphins when sharks came and that kept him alive until help came. after he lived another 20 years and is one of the coolest parts of my grandparents I learned from time with them.
Great video man. Storytelling, editing, pacing etc. all fantastic. Keep it up
The unfortunate thing about warriors from opposing sides making up is it always happens after the death and destruction
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I seem to recall that there was a hearing in which the Captain of the Japanese submarine responsible for the sinking testified that zig zagging would not have made any difference. He said the Indianapolis was a goner no matter what. I also recall that the Board of Inquiry disregarded that testimony and court marshaled McVay anyway. Everyone knew it was a CYA tactic to absolve the Navy of responsibility for the massive screw up that cost the lives of hundreds of sailors. It's a sad chapter that puts a dark stain of dishonor upon an otherwise noble branch of the American forces.
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Thank you for being with all of us who are watching your videos, helping every each and one of us go through our happy and especially sad times, giving us the comfort we all need. So many of us count on you! Thank you deeply!
Wow - never knew this story, but now Im only recently understanding how important my grandfathers job was. My grandfather, long gone now, was a young 18 year old, and brand new naval recruit from Adelaide, and posted to Darwin on an Australian vessel, just days before the Japanese hit Darwin in 1942. His ship was one that was ultimatelly lost, but he was also one of only a handful too survive that attack. He spent the rest of the war as a gunner on Australian escort ships, due to his skill on the guns. The ships they were escorting were US ships going to and from Hawaii. It never seemed as glamorous serving on an escort ship, but episodes like these show how critical they were to thhe survival of troop carriers, supply ships and larger battle ships. As such, escort ships were always greater targets first, smaller losses per ship but more of them per ship escorted. You only have to know that he never said a single word about it once he returned to farming for the rest of his life, to know it wasnt something he wanted to talk about. "never mention the war" was literal in our family despite photos of his mates, medals and ships littering his bedroom wall. Thankyou for the story.
My grandfather in the US lived almost that exact story. Served in the Pacific, refused to talk about it, came home to farm and raise a family. He never wanted to see the ocean again and refused to travel anywhere you could see it. He never allowed any of his 11 children to serve or even talk about serving in the military. The only thing he would say is that he served with both the most honorable and heroic men and the most depraved that humanity had to offer.
@@mminteresting Yes - wow that is incredible, but not surprising. Cant get much different to high stress high risk being a gunner on an escort ship, to the quiet slow plodding but routine life of being a dairy farmer. Odd, but also true here - he and they never travelled, or went on holiday even when they retired. He set up a dairy and pig farm in the green green Adelaide hills and just stayed therel He was a grumpy bum all his life - but that was gramps. But if anyone needed anything done, he just did it, and yup same here - no one in the family ever joined the military. He chained smoked, drank a lot, and died at 92. But it does help you understand why they didnt tolerate whinging. Disliked him all my life TBH, but now I understand him, and admire him. I was only told what he did after both he and nan died.
Hey Arran, long time fan! Just wanted to say I love how far you have come in your animation skills! Keep up the good work, you mustached wonder.
Thank you for the work you put into making each of these excellent clips, they are always entertaining and often educational. This clip was particularly gripping and the inclusion of the captains exoneration and the exchange of letters was the perfect conclusion to such a harrowing story. Keep up the great work!
😊Thank You for this Story and Report. I am Originally from Indiana and grew up near Indianapolis but was Unaware of the Role of the Indianapolis and its demise. I am now retired from the United States Air Force. I Thank you on behalf of all the Crew, Relatives, and Military Members That Have Served Their Country for your effort and part in Sharing This Story ! 😇
This story brought me to tears-absolutely heartbreaking how these sailors were made to suffer, and as for the dereliction of duties by the higher-ups, it was nothing short of disgraceful-they're the ones who should've been court martialed! 💔🤬
Great episode, and strangely heartwarming, both with the end and the 12 year old school boy!
According to Wikipedia, a book was written and published about Hunter Scott and his story, both before and after his connection to the Indianapolis.
Astonishingly, there has never been (to my knowledge) a documentary, television show, or movie made about this young man and his efforts. Goes to show that Hollywood need not be short of great stories to adapt to the silver screen.
I'd say this is an ideal choice for Steven Spielberg's next picture.
Good job Hunter! I'm proud of you for caring enough to look into the story and exonerate the captain.
Thought it was established some time ago that the number of crew eaten by sharks had been vastly exaggerated, especially since Jaws. And that actually maybe only a handful were actually eaten, the vast majority dieing because of the elements and dehydration. Not that that's much better, but the shark attack portion has been largely downplayed recently...or so I heard.
happy new year, thoughty2 every time you post a new video I go YES... am always looking forward to your new videos!!
Where’s your moustache?
Man those letters at the end hit me. God bless those two.
wow this video deserves more recognition. you did an amazing job telling this story
Another amazing episode from you brother!! Keep em coming! 😁
This is superb. My dad was in the US Navy during WW2 on a destroyer escort. (USS Key) Thinking about what the crew of the USS Indianapolis endured, the heroism of Marks and the aftermath moved me to tears.
What a great story...
It's good to me because I'm a 20yr USN Vet Retired...
It has a fantastic Happy Ending...
That lil boy getting the captain exonerated got me tearing up
Dude you have a gift for telling stories
4 days to be rescued is appalling.....incredible incompetence of our military!
In a war zone? It's horrible, but not insupportable in context.
It was the 40s man
And bear in mind those who survived and were inside the lifeboats who unfortunately watching this and unable to do anything about it... The combination of guilt in PTSD from reliving the events must have been so overwhelming I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them didn't live for that long after.
Thank you Thoughty2.
You're videos are always well presented and ( as far as I know ) factual.
I take nothing at face value, I question everything. I never seem to find anything that's wrong or dis-informational in your videos.
Thankyou, It's nice to hear the truth spoken after so long it being so quiet.
Please keep the videos coning, There are people out here that need to see this stuff.
God bless you. Peace and love.
Your videos are among the best. Thanks for making them.
Love your content thoughty2, thank you
The kid has the best college essay ever! Bravo to him for doing a better job the adults!
Thank you for researching and producing & making this video. I really appreciate it. I'm xmilitary and it reaches my soul sir, alongside being an American.
Appreciate all the effort u put into these videos!! I have 0 attention span left and tune in every week without fail no matter the topic as u always find a way to make it interesting no matter what it is! Keep up the good work pal!
The ending of this video made my day with the 2 veterans writing to each other just amazing
McVay learned the hard way that when your superiors screw up, you’re likely to get the blame 💔
Yay for Hunter! Quint's speech in Jaws is one of the reasons I can watch it every year. I've always wondered just how true it was.
How dose this man not have millions upon millions of followers but somebody like ssssniper wolf dose
I guess you said it, "dose" people were dozing.
Nice work, Thoughty2! I really enjoy all of your topics and the delivery.
Alongside from the horrific aftermath of the sinking of the USS Indianapolis, I’ve always been intrigued by the story for a couple of reasons. The first being the mission the Indianapolis was returning from, ie: delivering uranium and components of “Little Boy” for the Hiroshima mission, and resting at over 3 miles underwater it’s the deepest known shipwreck. As a thalassophobiak, I find that more terrifying than the sharks.
Such a ridiculously tragic event. Hard to consider the toll it took on so many lives.
and if you add up the Japanese fatalities, from the massacre that followed, it truly was a tragic event.
@@bq4454 The japanese kinda asked for it.. though I dont ever want innocent civilians killed. Their government chose to poke a bear you dont poke.
@@bq4454 invading Japan would have cost a lot of American lives.
I really like the fact of forgivness between this two former enemies
Robert Shaw’s monologue in Jaws is spine tingling and one of the greatest monologues in movie history. The horrific story of the USS Indianapolis is certainly far more compelling than the story in Jaws
I hadn’t heard of this story before and it brought tears to my eyes. How terrible for the everyone involved. The bravery of that pilot, Marks, and his crew. And the forgiveness of the two last survivors at the end.
I would have been happier remaining ignorant. But thank you anyway because I always learn something from your videos.