Ame is not my first oshi to graduate, but it's definitely the one that hit me the hardest. It really felt like we lived through a 4-year idol training arc, and that was the ending. Even at the start, all of Myth could sing, dance, and speak multiple languages-except Ame, so it really felt like an underdog story. And the fact that she changed her description from 'idol?' to 'idol!!' really got me tearing up.😢
Ame was the protagonist of Myth... perhaps of all of EN. It's just important to remember that her departure is the end of her protagonist role: Her story remains, as do all the others. She's not simply the protagonist anymore... she's a legend.
The 3D Halloween and Myth or Treat are my favorite Ame project. She did so much to make that happen, it was so special for everyone, her friends and the fans. I'll never forget it.
Ame truly was and will forever be the heart of gold of HoloEN 💛. While graduations are pretty sad they are also some of the best things ever imo because it transforms the character into something that felt real, not just some bits on a screen that last forever but something more ephemeral. It also creates some of the best moments. Idk if you watched the charity stream but at the end the moment with Kronii was one of the most genuine and most beautiful moments ever. Also lorewise it's amazing (i dig the lore behind myth so much) You have the time duo that didn't have enough time. It's poetic as fuck. In my head Kronii was chasing Ame for the watch she stole and when she finally caught up with her she realised how much fun she had chasing this little mortal human through space and time that she allowed her to keep the watch and get away just so she can have one more adventure with her. It's so fucking beautiful imo. Anyways sorry for the weird lore rant but i dig that stuff a lot. Awesome video!
I was hit by the loss as well. but I feel like there's such a huge space with a massive fanbase that are there for each other. I have seen countless tribute videos, songs, and thank you's to help cope. I sat through Kiara's sad karaoke as an extension of my own need to work through emotions. I think there's lots of strengths Ame gave us and we will see her influence in generations to come. Love ya, you table top nerd, you!
Ame's wacky and creative streams were always very entertaining. Ame being hyper relatable, and always putting her gen mates first, and helping them shine really rocketed her in my list of favorites of favorites. At least we can look forward to her showing up in later events. Maybe her "Ameway" can change how "Graduation" as a whole can be handled differently.
@@dicequeenDiyeah ikr, i was just thinking watching it live like "this graduation stream is so AME" that I wanted to cry but the stream was so original to Ame classic streams that It made me laugh out loud and made me forget that it was a graduation stream. It just came full circle from scuff Debut to scuff Graduation. It was indeed the most AMEWAY stream possible and I wouldnt want to change it either way.❤
First Calli, now Ame, Holomyth has always served to inspire you and push you forward. Progress isn't a straight line, it's got ups and downs, but the important thing is to keep going. I am looking forward to your ever valuable content and the passion you always have for the things that you do!
It hurts a lot. I've mourned this loss for myself but also for all the Teamates and Investigators. Once we get all the sadness out, when we think of her, we'll smile and laugh. We have to believe in the AMEWAY. She's the GOAT.
Its not exclusively an Ame moment, but I still vividly remember the Smol Halloween stream, and the moment they debuted Myth or Treat and truly understanding in that moment just how special and incredible and ground-pounding this group of ladies were. Not just through their own talents, which were manifold, but through the ingenuity and creativity of Amelia Watson to break through the limitations of what was considered possible under the weight of all the restrictions that were weighing upon them through no fault of their own. That singular moment was truly a nexus point for the explosion of so many aspects of vtubing that we now take for granted, and at the heart of all of it was the vision of a singular time travelling detective.
I've only been following vTubers for a short while. I didn't get to know Ame well, but I can observe the massive amount of respect she has from everyone, as a pioneer in the industry, for being relatable, and just all-around awesome in general. And she remained a pioneer to the very end by not truly"graduating." My takeaway is the end doesn't have to be absolute, but it can be the start of something new instead. All the same, I will continue to support all my oshi's the best I can while they're still with us, and beyond.
Isnt it ironic that the one who left first was the Time Traveller Human. Its like four immortal/very old being becoming painfully aware of the fragility of human life.
Ever since Sana graduated back in 2022, I contemplated on why it was sad when a vtuber graduates. They'll likely keep in touch with their friends and old co-workers, they might come back in a different form, or we know they're fighting hard out there in a new path they're walking. The answer I came to is because of the possibility this is the last time we hear of them, and also thinking about the impact they left on us during their time does feel bittersweet. Thanks for sharing your feelings!
I’m gonna miss her so much but looking back on it with a clear head I’m not just sad that she’s gone. I’m full of hope for the future of both hololive en and Amelia Watson! If I had to sum up my feelings on Ame’s entire career at hololive I’d say I’m grateful, grateful for all the hard work she put in and the time she spent making people laugh!
I think you summed up what made Ame so special perfectly. No, she wasn’t the most talented singer/artist/dancer when she joined but she was never afraid to do anything. Even if she failed, even if her stream was riddled in scuff, she did what she wanted. Because that’s the Ame-Way. She had the most Karaoke streams, her doodles had this charming quality that looked like they were drawn by SMOL Ame and her idol performances were always just a little bit out of synch but her little imperfections were exactly what made her perfect. Remember how much everyone adored the fact she was a split second late in the breaking dimensions MV? My favorite Ame moment is the first Christmas secret Santa. When she made Ina that drawing of a Takodachi and made everyone laugh. You could hear in her voice that she was a bit nervous about it at first, I don’t know if she thought they were laughing at her art skills or something, but when she realized Ina was laughing from the heart because she was so caught off guard, Ame’s little laugh at the end is my favorite laugh of hers. It felt equal parts relieved and happy at the same time. Thank you for taking the time to talk openly about your feelings.
@@dicequeenDi personally I always loved her singing. There was something pure about how she sang. Like a friend who finally felt comfortable singing in front of you.
Take the time to appreciate the good things while they're around. We're all here for a limited time on this rock. People and streamers aren't forever, that's why it's important to take it all in while you can. Take care ya'll.
it is a shame we will miss her but im glade she left on her terms and in such good standing. She was one of us and was always one of us a discord troll that just wants to make people smile!
Ame's level of creativity consistently surprised and impressed me, I'll miss everything about her but I'll miss her ideas and experiments the most... I haven't seen anyone else in the space except for maybe Korone who so loves to try things out and get so strange and unique...! The video "1 second from each Amelia Watson stream ever 🔎💛" is almost 16 MINUTES LONG! More then 900 STREAMS in 4 years, including Members and Collabs... Even if I feel sad that she's slowing down as much as possible, a "soft graduation" if you will, (which I hope becomes a standard, it sounds like the best possible "ending," in comparison to full graduation, a clear step-up from Sana!) I can't possibly be sad to not be "getting more." Celebrate what exists, and not what could have been. 4 years of wonder and streams... She's on her Ame way!
Ame making Reine cry in her birthday stream, sort of a lovely circle all the way back in their first year when Reine called Ame during her first birthday stream. Ame is a sweet girl, and I wish her all the best. 🎉
a lot of us let contentment steal the time we took for granted, we thought it was fine she'll be back there will be an other stream. Seeing so many of the other holo's have regrets for letting that time slip by. I hope us and them move to better ourselves to not take the time and bonds we have for granted.
Well said and I completely relate with a lot of what you said. The final stream was just...very her. Really, I still haven't quite figured out my emotions on the matter. I shift between sadness, frustration, and gratefulness. I suppose I'll just wait to see what she does next and hope that it fills the gap that is/was Ame. Also, funny enough we have the same favorites, although at this rate I feel a bit cursed lol. Luckily, Calli doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
At the very least she went out in her own terms with everyone not really knowing what to make of it (including her a bit too) but I guess that’s the “Ameway” lol. And her going out isn’t permanent so it is kind of like the whole “leaving dates” to visit her long-lived friends after “dying” in that bittersweet sorta way. It makes me remember the start of EN from when it got announced to when they debuted and didn’t even really know what they were doing yet. And others reacting to it, the early fanfics that probably started the whole “Ancient Ones, bad” trope or song analyzing, like with you and Calli’s songs. The “golden age of vtubers” feels like it was such a long time ago… I really do get that “end of an era” feeling. Not just with Holo but with things in general. How prominent people who once made the world as I know it always making an exit from those roles, be it in a positive way or not. The hard part about these things that it’s never truly just one particular moment that “creates” that “end of an era” or shift in times but it’s something that happens gradually. In small increments that you can allow yourself to deny the belief that it’ll lead to something unfavorable because that’s honestly how most tiny misfortunes go. So it kinda hurts having to realize that when one big moment makes it impossible to ignore that. Of course you don’t want to become jaded, paranoid or a little pessimistic of the future though that isn’t much of choice either… I’ve always wondered if I should start making bigger more long term investment projects for Holo but due to not wanting those in it to my an exit by the time I finished, I never got started. Though I realized that if I never get started then I will just end up letting things pass me by rather than at least doing the things I wanted to while I still could. (And yeah I’m mainly talking about making a game) So maybe I will start something soon enough after all😅 Thanks for coming to my TED talk I guess XD
I have alot of people that I love, and I can't support every single one of them. So when I realize that I hadn't seen someone in a while, I get a little worried because I couldn't keep up and know if they mentioned anything about graduation. When someone large like Coco or Ame graduate, that's basically everywhere, but when the small streamers do it, it's likely to go unnoticed. I'm glad to have you here, Di. I'm glad for all the friends I've made as well. I hope that someday, I'll be able to see everyone happy with where they are and where they're going. Thanks for being with us!
I'm an OG Myth fan, and while I love watching all of them, you can never really predict what Ame would do. In my opinion, she had the most creative and off the wall streams. I'm going to miss that.
On a side note i broke down into a mess in the work bathroom crying over Ame LMAO. Everything about her reminded me of Vesper Noir from how they talk about their silly past to having their interesting lil niche interests on games and such, the clips or streams Ive tuned into felt like I was just hanging out with them instead and maybe this sounds a lil parasocial but it feels like losing a friend now that they're not around
Favorite Ame moment is just one I imagine. I imagine her still Ame happy of course. In my head canon (maybe my attempt at coping), Ame coming to this timeline was the reason the initial Myth gen came together and indirectly why the other Gens eventually joined HoloEn. Lorewise, Ame in a way is the prime creation spark/event in the Holo Live EN liminal space. I imagine after the initial work of starting Holo En she is resting now and checking on other talents that have left active status. Waiting for her next adventures. Favorite actual moment I watched, I'll cheat and say all of her last 10 days with HoloEN, which includes the 4th anniversary show & EnRec because they knew even though we didn't yet. I think I found vtubers after HoloEN debut when I stumbled across the Fubuki clips. Then I found Mori's End Of A Life and Gura singing covers absolutely nabbed me. I remember watching Myth anniversaries and big events like the Halloween stream. I've been more hooked on watching HoloEN streams for about the last year. I thought Gura or a maybe Gura x Mori (Death Shark sounds cool) would be who I would consider oshi. Then I realized in the last 10 days of her live streaming that Ame was my Oshi. Through smiles, laughter, and some tears we watched Ame level up to Hololive Living Legend Status The legendary case of Amelia Watson is the best investigation ever. 💛 o7 Ame Forever ... "I am thirsty, too. Let us look for a well . . ." I made a gesture of weariness. It is absurd to look for a well, at random, in the immensity of the desert. But nevertheless we started walking. When we had trudged along for several hours, in silence, the darkness fell, and the stars began to come out. Thirst had made me a little feverish, and I looked at them as if I were in a dream. The little prince's last words came reeling back into my memory: "Then you are thirsty, too?" I demanded. But he did not reply to my question. He merely said to me: "Water may also be good for the heart . . ." I did not understand this answer, but I said nothing. I knew very well that it was impossible to cross-examine him. He was tired. He sat down. I sat down beside him. And, after a little silence, he spoke again: "The stars are beautiful, because of a flower that cannot be seen." I replied, "Yes, that is so." And, without saying anything more, I looked across the ridges of sand that were stretched out before us in the moonlight. "The desert is beautiful," the little prince added. And that was true. I have always loved the desert. One sits down on a desert sand dune, sees nothing, hears nothing. Yet through the silence something throbs, and gleams . . . "What makes the desert beautiful," said the little prince, "is that somewhere it hides a well . . ." ~The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry~
It's bittersweet, but she isn't gone. Her old account is back up, and she still isn't over with Hololive. Still, it'll be a change to not have her on every day
Ame will return at some point, she said so herself. I don't believe that ame would lie to us, so if she says that she will come back, I believe that she will. It's not really a graduation because Ame still has the option to come back to streaming when she's ready, and I don't think that cover would stop her. Hololive doesn't want the talents to leave anymore, then we do, which is probably why they came up with this partial graduation. Yagoo probably doesn't like to watch his talents leave, and this is an alternate, so it doesn't have to be them leaving permanently. Ame actually graduating would mean retiring the model and name Amilia watson, and that's not what's happening in this case. I know that it's hard and sad. I'm sad about it because no one wants the girls to leave.
to me - Ame was a streamer, not an idol. I thought that was what hololive talents were... but they are much more and therefore not as consistent as streamers, connecting with their community. but Ame was incredibly creative, she innovated in so many aspects and worked really hard. Sana graduated because of her own shortcomings which was incredibly sad for me(she had a couple of health problems that had her be very inconsistent). Ame on the other hand doesn't seem to have had anything like that - which makes me think either that Ame felt SPENT creatively and had "nothing more to offer" - which is more sad but in a different way. or Ame felt as if the idols projects ramping up again after the pandemic didn't match her ideal job. OR Ame felt like she wasn't good enough for the idol side of the job.... so for now, I'm mourning. until a possible new Vtuber with a familiar voice appear (which tbh isn't very likely)...
I feel you, Di. I don't like doomposting, but part of me is worried is afraid for Hololive EN's future without Ame. It feels like we're headed for an era that has outgrown our detective, with so much greater focus on idol activities, singing and dancing and 'homework' at the expense of time to stream, that there's no room for 'ordinary' streamer girls like Ame, whose expertise lie in entertaining and pushing the boundaries of the craft of vtubing. That each gen is going to have maybe a year or two year long 'honeymoon' phase, and then slowly fade away as new girls get promoted to replace them, like a constant treadmill of content, chewing vtubers up and spitting them out. I'd love more than anything to be wrong, to be able to look to the future of Hololive without dread, and for Ame to succeed in the indie realm, but I don't know. It's so hard to see how things could get better. I miss what the world looked like when Myth was new.
Its ok its ok it cant be help it is a wonderful story to be had And i dont think its a graduation its anew process that allpw her to comback i believe she would but time for her to travel and as the time traveler she is she return to when she left And i wish ya best in your journey if you wish to do more do it you can do it for now just rememeber as you said its ok to make mistake
@@dicequeenDi glad she is well loved that why i beliwve she and cover took this route bec clearly she sound like she want to continue but theirs a future she dream to do so with this she could return if i will ask what your thoughts on that?
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Ame was one of us. Her first big meme was a Your Mom joke.
A classic honestly
girl came late to her own graduation. 10/10 ame stream
An hour and a half late xD
Ame is not my first oshi to graduate, but it's definitely the one that hit me the hardest. It really felt like we lived through a 4-year idol training arc, and that was the ending. Even at the start, all of Myth could sing, dance, and speak multiple languages-except Ame, so it really felt like an underdog story. And the fact that she changed her description from 'idol?' to 'idol!!' really got me tearing up.😢
Ame was the protagonist of Myth... perhaps of all of EN.
It's just important to remember that her departure is the end of her protagonist role: Her story remains, as do all the others.
She's not simply the protagonist anymore... she's a legend.
The most legendary vtuber, up in the sky with coco who helped bring hololive to the west
She came into our lives with a “REEEEEE” and made so many of her streams a special event
so many streams. not enough love orz
The 3D Halloween and Myth or Treat are my favorite Ame project. She did so much to make that happen, it was so special for everyone, her friends and the fans. I'll never forget it.
I WONT EITHERRRRR O7777
Didnt watch much of Ame but all the out of context clips Ive seen of her she was silly
Truly a gremlin for the ages
her clips were as golden as her hair
Ame truly was and will forever be the heart of gold of HoloEN 💛. While graduations are pretty sad they are also some of the best things ever imo because it transforms the character into something that felt real, not just some bits on a screen that last forever but something more ephemeral. It also creates some of the best moments. Idk if you watched the charity stream but at the end the moment with Kronii was one of the most genuine and most beautiful moments ever. Also lorewise it's amazing (i dig the lore behind myth so much) You have the time duo that didn't have enough time. It's poetic as fuck. In my head Kronii was chasing Ame for the watch she stole and when she finally caught up with her she realised how much fun she had chasing this little mortal human through space and time that she allowed her to keep the watch and get away just so she can have one more adventure with her. It's so fucking beautiful imo. Anyways sorry for the weird lore rant but i dig that stuff a lot. Awesome video!
Nah fam I saw it. It broke me and I watched it over and over
I was hit by the loss as well. but I feel like there's such a huge space with a massive fanbase that are there for each other. I have seen countless tribute videos, songs, and thank you's to help cope. I sat through Kiara's sad karaoke as an extension of my own need to work through emotions. I think there's lots of strengths Ame gave us and we will see her influence in generations to come. Love ya, you table top nerd, you!
amechanmemorial orz i'm hoping to see more from her, but i need to take that torch forward
Ame's wacky and creative streams were always very entertaining. Ame being hyper relatable, and always putting her gen mates first, and helping them shine really rocketed her in my list of favorites of favorites. At least we can look forward to her showing up in later events. Maybe her "Ameway" can change how "Graduation" as a whole can be handled differently.
her graduation didn't feel sad to me! i was saddest before and after! but during it i couldn't help but smile the entire time!
@@dicequeenDiyeah ikr, i was just thinking watching it live like "this graduation stream is so AME" that I wanted to cry but the stream was so original to Ame classic streams that It made me laugh out loud and made me forget that it was a graduation stream. It just came full circle from scuff Debut to scuff Graduation. It was indeed the most AMEWAY stream possible and I wouldnt want to change it either way.❤
First Calli, now Ame, Holomyth has always served to inspire you and push you forward. Progress isn't a straight line, it's got ups and downs, but the important thing is to keep going. I am looking forward to your ever valuable content and the passion you always have for the things that you do!
i just wish that inspiration didnt come from loss.. but yeah!
It IS an end of an era. I hope the next one will be better. Thank you for your service, Watson.
it's the silver age o7 it's time to break through using different strengths
It hurts a lot. I've mourned this loss for myself but also for all the Teamates and Investigators. Once we get all the sadness out, when we think of her, we'll smile and laugh. We have to believe in the AMEWAY. She's the GOAT.
Greatest of ALL timelines
Its not exclusively an Ame moment, but I still vividly remember the Smol Halloween stream, and the moment they debuted Myth or Treat and truly understanding in that moment just how special and incredible and ground-pounding this group of ladies were. Not just through their own talents, which were manifold, but through the ingenuity and creativity of Amelia Watson to break through the limitations of what was considered possible under the weight of all the restrictions that were weighing upon them through no fault of their own.
That singular moment was truly a nexus point for the explosion of so many aspects of vtubing that we now take for granted, and at the heart of all of it was the vision of a singular time travelling detective.
Being greater than the sum of its parts!
I feel ya. I lost an oshi in A-chan (even if not an "idol" proper I still adored her) and as if Ina was gone I might riot.
i'd riot with you buddy
the stream was really fun, but the last part, where she started thanking us for loving and accepting her, really made me cry😢.
I cried at the end of it all!
I've only been following vTubers for a short while. I didn't get to know Ame well, but I can observe the massive amount of respect she has from everyone, as a pioneer in the industry, for being relatable, and just all-around awesome in general. And she remained a pioneer to the very end by not truly"graduating." My takeaway is the end doesn't have to be absolute, but it can be the start of something new instead.
All the same, I will continue to support all my oshi's the best I can while they're still with us, and beyond.
One day I hope to be an oshi folks can be just as proud of...
Isnt it ironic that the one who left first was the Time Traveller Human. Its like four immortal/very old being becoming painfully aware of the fragility of human life.
f u c k
Nice! Glad you're taking your goals with a Hit The Ground Running approach 💖
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH *trip*
Ever since Sana graduated back in 2022, I contemplated on why it was sad when a vtuber graduates. They'll likely keep in touch with their friends and old co-workers, they might come back in a different form, or we know they're fighting hard out there in a new path they're walking. The answer I came to is because of the possibility this is the last time we hear of them, and also thinking about the impact they left on us during their time does feel bittersweet. Thanks for sharing your feelings!
They might not tbh. Agencies keep a pretty tight grip on who their talents interact with :/
Thank you for sharing yourself with us. The raw emotions we feel in moments like this are so precious.
i'm nothing if not sincere ; w ;
I’m gonna miss her so much but looking back on it with a clear head I’m not just sad that she’s gone. I’m full of hope for the future of both hololive en and Amelia Watson! If I had to sum up my feelings on Ame’s entire career at hololive I’d say I’m grateful, grateful for all the hard work she put in and the time she spent making people laugh!
ABSOLUTELY GRATEFUL
I can relate.
Hope you get better soon, and hey ame isn’t completely gone, we are still gonna get to see her time to time. :)
soon:tm:
I think you summed up what made Ame so special perfectly. No, she wasn’t the most talented singer/artist/dancer when she joined but she was never afraid to do anything. Even if she failed, even if her stream was riddled in scuff, she did what she wanted. Because that’s the Ame-Way.
She had the most Karaoke streams, her doodles had this charming quality that looked like they were drawn by SMOL Ame and her idol performances were always just a little bit out of synch but her little imperfections were exactly what made her perfect. Remember how much everyone adored the fact she was a split second late in the breaking dimensions MV?
My favorite Ame moment is the first Christmas secret Santa. When she made Ina that drawing of a Takodachi and made everyone laugh. You could hear in her voice that she was a bit nervous about it at first, I don’t know if she thought they were laughing at her art skills or something, but when she realized Ina was laughing from the heart because she was so caught off guard, Ame’s little laugh at the end is my favorite laugh of hers. It felt equal parts relieved and happy at the same time.
Thank you for taking the time to talk openly about your feelings.
AhhhhhHHHHhhhhh I know right ahhhh. She was the ordinary girl. She was the one doing her best. And we loved her for it
@@dicequeenDi personally I always loved her singing. There was something pure about how she sang. Like a friend who finally felt comfortable singing in front of you.
Take the time to appreciate the good things while they're around. We're all here for a limited time on this rock. People and streamers aren't forever, that's why it's important to take it all in while you can. Take care ya'll.
Well said buddy!
Never enough time!
To the non-comic needs, like the "Spiderman of Holo-live" is a HIGH frikkin praise.
I also LOVE Spiderman to death. It's the only superhero I think about daily xD
it is a shame we will miss her but im glade she left on her terms and in such good standing. She was one of us and was always one of us a discord troll that just wants to make people smile!
Wreaking havoc no matter where she goes!
Ame's level of creativity consistently surprised and impressed me, I'll miss everything about her but I'll miss her ideas and experiments the most... I haven't seen anyone else in the space except for maybe Korone who so loves to try things out and get so strange and unique...!
The video "1 second from each Amelia Watson stream ever 🔎💛" is almost 16 MINUTES LONG! More then 900 STREAMS in 4 years, including Members and Collabs...
Even if I feel sad that she's slowing down as much as possible, a "soft graduation" if you will, (which I hope becomes a standard, it sounds like the best possible "ending," in comparison to full graduation, a clear step-up from Sana!) I can't possibly be sad to not be "getting more."
Celebrate what exists, and not what could have been.
4 years of wonder and streams... She's on her Ame way!
900 streams orz what a bean...
Ame making Reine cry in her birthday stream, sort of a lovely circle all the way back in their first year when Reine called Ame during her first birthday stream. Ame is a sweet girl, and I wish her all the best. 🎉
Very relatable. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks orz I do my best
a lot of us let contentment steal the time we took for granted, we thought it was fine she'll be back there will be an other stream. Seeing so many of the other holo's have regrets for letting that time slip by. I hope us and them move to better ourselves to not take the time and bonds we have for granted.
I've been watching mori again. I couldn't handle if she was gone too
Well said and I completely relate with a lot of what you said. The final stream was just...very her. Really, I still haven't quite figured out my emotions on the matter. I shift between sadness, frustration, and gratefulness. I suppose I'll just wait to see what she does next and hope that it fills the gap that is/was Ame.
Also, funny enough we have the same favorites, although at this rate I feel a bit cursed lol. Luckily, Calli doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
i feel you. all of that. I'm not going to let myself take calli for granted like i did ame orz
Let it all out Di, many of us feel much the same.
Great video Di, well said.
o7
At the very least she went out in her own terms with everyone not really knowing what to make of it (including her a bit too) but I guess that’s the “Ameway” lol. And her going out isn’t permanent so it is kind of like the whole “leaving dates” to visit her long-lived friends after “dying” in that bittersweet sorta way. It makes me remember the start of EN from when it got announced to when they debuted and didn’t even really know what they were doing yet.
And others reacting to it, the early fanfics that probably started the whole “Ancient Ones, bad” trope or song analyzing, like with you and Calli’s songs. The “golden age of vtubers” feels like it was such a long time ago…
I really do get that “end of an era” feeling. Not just with Holo but with things in general. How prominent people who once made the world as I know it always making an exit from those roles, be it in a positive way or not.
The hard part about these things that it’s never truly just one particular moment that “creates” that “end of an era” or shift in times but it’s something that happens gradually. In small increments that you can allow yourself to deny the belief that it’ll lead to something unfavorable because that’s honestly how most tiny misfortunes go.
So it kinda hurts having to realize that when one big moment makes it impossible to ignore that. Of course you don’t want to become jaded, paranoid or a little pessimistic of the future though that isn’t much of choice either…
I’ve always wondered if I should start making bigger more long term investment projects for Holo but due to not wanting those in it to my an exit by the time I finished, I never got started.
Though I realized that if I never get started then I will just end up letting things pass me by rather than at least doing the things I wanted to while I still could. (And yeah I’m mainly talking about making a game) So maybe I will start something soon enough after all😅
Thanks for coming to my TED talk I guess XD
Nah thank you for sharing!
@@dicequeenDi Thanks! What you said really resonated with me.
I have alot of people that I love, and I can't support every single one of them. So when I realize that I hadn't seen someone in a while, I get a little worried because I couldn't keep up and know if they mentioned anything about graduation.
When someone large like Coco or Ame graduate, that's basically everywhere, but when the small streamers do it, it's likely to go unnoticed.
I'm glad to have you here, Di. I'm glad for all the friends I've made as well. I hope that someday, I'll be able to see everyone happy with where they are and where they're going.
Thanks for being with us!
I'm hoping to go even Harder honestly. I posted up a recent message about ym dissatisfaction
Journey before Destination.
A good journey makes the destination sweeter!
I'm an OG Myth fan, and while I love watching all of them, you can never really predict what Ame would do. In my opinion, she had the most creative and off the wall streams. I'm going to miss that.
I've been around since their first streams... remember that British accent? XD
@@dicequeenDi I use the same philosophy with public speaking: Start with the cringiest thing I can do. Then they'll love me!
@@dicequeenDi Also, you replied to a comment I left! I have now subscribed to your channel. Watching your Calli stuff now. Yay! 😆
Thank you for sharing, Di. Hang in there.
Always!
she is the Tony stark/Ironman of myth
yeah actually. moreso than spiderman in a way
@dicequeenDi like tony, she needs tech to match her teammates' special skills
Truly the cornerstone of EN, see you later Time Detective!
On a side note i broke down into a mess in the work bathroom crying over Ame LMAO. Everything about her reminded me of Vesper Noir from how they talk about their silly past to having their interesting lil niche interests on games and such, the clips or streams Ive tuned into felt like I was just hanging out with them instead and maybe this sounds a lil parasocial but it feels like losing a friend now that they're not around
I totally understand the feeling of losing a friend...
I'm cheering you on, Di!
; w ;
Favorite Ame moment is just one I imagine. I imagine her still Ame happy of course. In my head canon (maybe my attempt at coping), Ame coming to this timeline was the reason the initial Myth gen came together and indirectly why the other Gens eventually joined HoloEn. Lorewise, Ame in a way is the prime creation spark/event in the Holo Live EN liminal space. I imagine after the initial work of starting Holo En she is resting now and checking on other talents that have left active status. Waiting for her next adventures.
Favorite actual moment I watched, I'll cheat and say all of her last 10 days with HoloEN, which includes the 4th anniversary show & EnRec because they knew even though we didn't yet.
I think I found vtubers after HoloEN debut when I stumbled across the Fubuki clips. Then I found Mori's End Of A Life and Gura singing covers absolutely nabbed me. I remember watching Myth anniversaries and big events like the Halloween stream. I've been more hooked on watching HoloEN streams for about the last year.
I thought Gura or a maybe Gura x Mori (Death Shark sounds cool) would be who I would consider oshi.
Then I realized in the last 10 days of her live streaming that Ame was my Oshi.
Through smiles, laughter, and some tears we watched Ame level up to Hololive Living Legend Status
The legendary case of Amelia Watson is the best investigation ever.
💛
o7
Ame Forever
...
"I am thirsty, too. Let us look for a well . . ."
I made a gesture of weariness. It is absurd to look for a well, at random, in the immensity of the desert. But nevertheless we started walking.
When we had trudged along for several hours, in silence, the darkness fell, and the stars began to come out. Thirst had made me a little feverish, and I looked at them as if I were in a dream. The little prince's last words came reeling back into my memory:
"Then you are thirsty, too?" I demanded.
But he did not reply to my question. He merely said to me:
"Water may also be good for the heart . . ."
I did not understand this answer, but I said nothing. I knew very well that it was impossible to cross-examine him.
He was tired. He sat down. I sat down beside him. And, after a little silence, he spoke again:
"The stars are beautiful, because of a flower that cannot be seen."
I replied, "Yes, that is so." And, without saying anything more, I looked across the ridges of sand that were stretched out before us in the moonlight.
"The desert is beautiful," the little prince added.
And that was true. I have always loved the desert. One sits down on a desert sand dune, sees nothing, hears nothing. Yet through the silence something throbs, and gleams . . .
"What makes the desert beautiful," said the little prince, "is that somewhere it hides a well . . ."
~The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry~
That was honestly a beautiful read. GL with everything teammate o7
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It's bittersweet, but she isn't gone. Her old account is back up, and she still isn't over with Hololive. Still, it'll be a change to not have her on every day
It'll be different.... but not long gone
Ame will return at some point, she said so herself. I don't believe that ame would lie to us, so if she says that she will come back, I believe that she will. It's not really a graduation because Ame still has the option to come back to streaming when she's ready, and I don't think that cover would stop her. Hololive doesn't want the talents to leave anymore, then we do, which is probably why they came up with this partial graduation. Yagoo probably doesn't like to watch his talents leave, and this is an alternate, so it doesn't have to be them leaving permanently. Ame actually graduating would mean retiring the model and name Amilia watson, and that's not what's happening in this case.
I know that it's hard and sad. I'm sad about it because no one wants the girls to leave.
She'll be back I know orz it still just hurts
to me - Ame was a streamer, not an idol. I thought that was what hololive talents were... but they are much more and therefore not as consistent as streamers, connecting with their community.
but Ame was incredibly creative, she innovated in so many aspects and worked really hard.
Sana graduated because of her own shortcomings which was incredibly sad for me(she had a couple of health problems that had her be very inconsistent).
Ame on the other hand doesn't seem to have had anything like that - which makes me think either that Ame felt SPENT creatively and had "nothing more to offer" - which is more sad but in a different way. or Ame felt as if the idols projects ramping up again after the pandemic didn't match her ideal job. OR Ame felt like she wasn't good enough for the idol side of the job....
so for now, I'm mourning. until a possible new Vtuber with a familiar voice appear (which tbh isn't very likely)...
I don't know what exactly was the reason. But yeah... things must have changed.
I feel you, Di. I don't like doomposting, but part of me is worried is afraid for Hololive EN's future without Ame. It feels like we're headed for an era that has outgrown our detective, with so much greater focus on idol activities, singing and dancing and 'homework' at the expense of time to stream, that there's no room for 'ordinary' streamer girls like Ame, whose expertise lie in entertaining and pushing the boundaries of the craft of vtubing. That each gen is going to have maybe a year or two year long 'honeymoon' phase, and then slowly fade away as new girls get promoted to replace them, like a constant treadmill of content, chewing vtubers up and spitting them out. I'd love more than anything to be wrong, to be able to look to the future of Hololive without dread, and for Ame to succeed in the indie realm, but I don't know. It's so hard to see how things could get better. I miss what the world looked like when Myth was new.
Yeah exactly that. That's what I think about a lot. We needed the ordinary girl. We needed ame.
Its ok its ok it cant be help it is a wonderful story to be had
And i dont think its a graduation its anew process that allpw her to comback i believe she would but time for her to travel and as the time traveler she is she return to when she left
And i wish ya best in your journey if you wish to do more do it you can do it for now just rememeber as you said its ok to make mistake
To be so unafraid to fail in front of 100k people. I admire that immensely
@@dicequeenDi glad she is well loved that why i beliwve she and cover took this route bec clearly she sound like she want to continue but theirs a future she dream to do so with this she could return if i will ask what your thoughts on that?
i can't even say anything about her parted. it was too soon
Too soon.
When did you get a 3d model?
two years now!
but, what if you're my oshi?
HEY ILL TAKE THAT :D
Thanks for talking about this Di! ❤
Just a little ramble it's nothing special! But thanks ; w ;
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