Thanks to all who are commenting other songs, I will say that I'll also accept songs similar to Cardiacs-adjacent bands as I have a strong one for NSRO's Morpheus Miracle Maker for a potential '& Affectionate Friends' version down the line as well.
Everyone points out R.E.S as being a Residents lift from The Act of Being Polite, but A Little Man and a House is a dead ringer for The Residents and Renaldo and the Loaf's The Shoe Salesman (especially the live version from the Demons Dance Alone tour).
- "R.E.S." riff Is basically "Act of Being Polite" by Residents (that's what R.E.S seems to stand for: RESidents). - "Wireless" = "Lauft..." by Faust. And "Spinney", to me, is inspired by "It's a Bit of a Pain" by Faust, which is in the same Faust album.
@@dangatang0I think Grahams guitar style shows a fair bit of Cardiacs influence. Especially on “Modern life” and park life. Blur also like a big extended outro a la Big Ship. Take resigned from modern life for example. And on the other side, “Bellyeye” from “sing to god” starts with a guitar part that sounds like Hendrix playing a Coxon style riff. The middle 8 (if they exist in cardiacs songs) has a really catchy poppy melody that is reminiscent of Blur.
th-cam.com/video/RrtoQ-TBgkM/w-d-xo.html This live performance of Globe Alone at Mile End (Cardiacs supporting) has Damon saying "introducing Cardiacs" before a particularly inspired riff (after 1:30)
Here’s some other examples that have come up: Cross Wires by XTC (eat it up worms hero) Awaken by Yes (jitterbug) Three Friends by Gentle Giant (everso) Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fulcik (all his geese are swans)
"If you have any examples, please leave them in a comment. I may make a sequel to this video if I get enough." Charmless Man by Blur has the Cardiacs cadence in it (A C#m F# repeated during the verse). (If you don't know what the Cardiacs cadence is, watch the Tantacrul video) Wild Thing by The Troggs inspired Joining The Plankton. (And we know Tim was really familiar with the song because he stole lyrics from it for It's A Lovely Day) Fiery Gun Hand's intro sounds a lot like the intro of Wake Up by XTC (two guitars hard panned left and right, each playing three notes of a dominant seventh chord in a polyrhythmic/polymetric pattern). There's loads more examples I'm sure.
no. there was Devo too. But all of that is just OUR point of view. Tim Smith likely got the idea from watching that broken Salvation Army band playing for folks to throw coin donations into the bucket out in the snow outside of that shop with the toy electric trains in Kingston shortly before Christmas 1966.
Gotta mention: Elements from the middle bridge on "Eating in bed" (past the second reffrain, just after "catch this" bit) may have given inspiration to parts of the song "Awkward as a Drunk" by "Major Parkinson" (the part starting about half a minute into the song). That being said, the people in Major Parkinson doesn't exactly hide the fact that they are huge Cardiacs-fans.
This was a tricky one lol, everyone in the server knew there was one Lemon Demon one but couldn't remember what part, one person has heard one track be note-for-note with a Cardiacs track but I had convinced myself that Loosefish was close enough to Eventuality to fit it because that was the only real lead I ended up with
@@LoganPosthumous Lol that's understandable, both groups have a lot of songs to sift through so it must've been a brain teaser to pick songs that match. That being said, I'm positive Goodbye Grace is the song that matches
I've heard quite a few examples for most Cardiacsy Lemon Demon song by now lol, Atomic Copper Claw I think was pointed out once and also an un(/semi?)released instrumental I forget the name of. Tracks like Lemon Demon, Fire Motif, Telekinesis &c. are all Cardiacsy in ways. Though reminding myself of what Angry People sounds like parts are definitely straight out of something Tim would write
'Devious Pillar' by The Harry Macintosh Project has an 'Eat It Up Worms Hero' vibe about it too - open.spotify.com/track/2zln9um2Uhow6ooWoAQXVQ?si=17d57980224f4036
If I recall correctly is that not just the song that the Futurama theme samples? I remember seeing something about that and hearing a bit of the original and I remember the sampling changing the tune enough to be its own thing
Thanks to all who are commenting other songs, I will say that I'll also accept songs similar to Cardiacs-adjacent bands as I have a strong one for NSRO's Morpheus Miracle Maker for a potential '& Affectionate Friends' version down the line as well.
the intro to Fiery Gun Hand is a clear homage to XTC's Wake Up
Ok this video told me one important thing....I need to listen to more Split Enz.
They even have a cone for a beak...
❤ Split Enz
Absolutely. Bullet Brain and Cactus Head!
Mental Notes (Second Thoughts) is so good! ❤
Phil judd era Split Enz are so good. Their later stuff was also great but in a different way.
Tubeway army - are 'friend' electric?
Cardiacs - everything Is Easy
Everyone points out R.E.S as being a Residents lift from The Act of Being Polite, but A Little Man and a House is a dead ringer for The Residents and Renaldo and the Loaf's The Shoe Salesman (especially the live version from the Demons Dance Alone tour).
- "R.E.S." riff Is basically "Act of Being Polite" by Residents (that's what R.E.S seems to stand for: RESidents).
- "Wireless" = "Lauft..." by Faust. And "Spinney", to me, is inspired by "It's a Bit of a Pain" by Faust, which is in the same Faust album.
I'd heard that RES was probably named after The Residents but not that there was a musical parallel with them too, I'll check these out
I would not be surprised if Tim was inspired by In Heaven, considering how lynchian Seaside Treats feels
I believe that Blur explicitly cited Cardiacs as one of their influences
Indeed, they tend to be one of the main examples for bands that were inspired by Cardiacs whenever it comes up lol
And yet you see not a whiff of that in their music
@@dangatang0I think Grahams guitar style shows a fair bit of Cardiacs influence. Especially on “Modern life” and park life. Blur also like a big extended outro a la Big Ship. Take resigned from modern life for example. And on the other side, “Bellyeye” from “sing to god” starts with a guitar part that sounds like Hendrix playing a Coxon style riff. The middle 8 (if they exist in cardiacs songs) has a really catchy poppy melody that is reminiscent of Blur.
th-cam.com/video/RrtoQ-TBgkM/w-d-xo.html
This live performance of Globe Alone at Mile End (Cardiacs supporting) has Damon saying "introducing Cardiacs" before a particularly inspired riff (after 1:30)
The chorus of "Model Worker" by Magazine provided a very identifiable part of "Anything I Can't Eat"
Knew of that one, editing them together is remarkably easy considering even the tempo and key is shared between both
i remember chatting to Tim (1986) about .. Oingo Boingo he loved them
Here’s some other examples that have come up:
Cross Wires by XTC (eat it up worms hero)
Awaken by Yes (jitterbug)
Three Friends by Gentle Giant (everso)
Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fulcik (all his geese are swans)
The Song of the Dignity of Labour under Capital by Art Bears (everso)
There’s an XTC song that does a similar hocketing guitar riff to the intro of Firey Gun Hand but the name of it escapes me at the moment.
@@tren-della Wake Up?
Lol it would be funny if Cardiacs referenced Cross Wires on like three different releases
The outro from 3 friends reminds me of the outro of big ship
"If you have any examples, please leave them in a comment. I may make a sequel to this video if I get enough."
Charmless Man by Blur has the Cardiacs cadence in it (A C#m F# repeated during the verse). (If you don't know what the Cardiacs cadence is, watch the Tantacrul video)
Wild Thing by The Troggs inspired Joining The Plankton. (And we know Tim was really familiar with the song because he stole lyrics from it for It's A Lovely Day)
Fiery Gun Hand's intro sounds a lot like the intro of Wake Up by XTC (two guitars hard panned left and right, each playing three notes of a dominant seventh chord in a polyrhythmic/polymetric pattern).
There's loads more examples I'm sure.
Right, I'll keep note of these
ALSO WTF I'VE NEVER HEARD OF SPLIT ENZ BUT SEEING THE VIDEO COMPARISON I FEEL A LITTLE BETRAYED- SO THAT'S WHERE TIM GOT THE IDEA?
no. there was Devo too. But all of that is just OUR point of view. Tim Smith likely got the idea from watching that broken Salvation Army band playing for folks to throw coin donations into the bucket out in the snow outside of that shop with the toy electric trains in Kingston shortly before Christmas 1966.
Split Enz featured Neil and Tim Finn, Neil formed Crowded House after SE split up. The early line up had the mad genius Phil Judd.
Joining the Plankton is also similar to 暗いところへ by Halmens, which is an amazing band
Trashdog has a lot of cool songs too
For Cardiacs fans you have to listen Franz Yuzef who is an Israeli musician fan of Tim Smith and his albums are a marvelous !
Wow lol I think he goes a bit beyond taking inspiration from Cardiacs lmao
I like the idea of the Futurama theme being influenced by them, but there's a video breaking down all the samples it uses. Good concept though!
I mean it sound sexactly the same
The verses of Blur’s When the cows come home are pretty much Dog-Like Sparky
Bellyeye is another that is reminiscent of Blur, the intro and the horn part in particular
Gotta mention: Elements from the middle bridge on "Eating in bed" (past the second reffrain, just after "catch this" bit) may have given inspiration to parts of the song "Awkward as a Drunk" by "Major Parkinson" (the part starting about half a minute into the song).
That being said, the people in Major Parkinson doesn't exactly hide the fact that they are huge Cardiacs-fans.
"Joining The Plankton" is mercilessly ripped from "Dizzy" by Tommy Roe
There is also "Joining the Plankton" and the song "Dizzy"
Eventuality by Lemon Demon has a closer link to "Goodbye Grace" imo
This was a tricky one lol, everyone in the server knew there was one Lemon Demon one but couldn't remember what part, one person has heard one track be note-for-note with a Cardiacs track but I had convinced myself that Loosefish was close enough to Eventuality to fit it because that was the only real lead I ended up with
@@LoganPosthumous Lol that's understandable, both groups have a lot of songs to sift through so it must've been a brain teaser to pick songs that match. That being said, I'm positive Goodbye Grace is the song that matches
@@unknown6390 I wouldn't even have spotted that, never got into Goodbye Grace so I don't really know how it goes at all
The most Cardiacs Lemon Demon song is definitely Angry People.
I've heard quite a few examples for most Cardiacsy Lemon Demon song by now lol, Atomic Copper Claw I think was pointed out once and also an un(/semi?)released instrumental I forget the name of. Tracks like Lemon Demon, Fire Motif, Telekinesis &c. are all Cardiacsy in ways. Though reminding myself of what Angry People sounds like parts are definitely straight out of something Tim would write
Joining the Plankton & Boston's More Than A Feeling
lemon demon always just sounds like diet boingo
Dirty Boy starts the same as Alice Cooper's 'I'm 18'
th-cam.com/video/7nptFEl-nwM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AliceCooper-Topic
Always felt paranoid android sounds like fairy Mary mag
9:37 "I've a cone for a beak"
'Devious Pillar' by The Harry Macintosh Project has an 'Eat It Up Worms Hero' vibe about it too - open.spotify.com/track/2zln9um2Uhow6ooWoAQXVQ?si=17d57980224f4036
Eventuality reminds me more of the tim smith solo track Ocean Heaven if anything.
I approve!
Where can I join the discord? I'd love to be there!
discord.gg/RbZ3BaEBtb there you are
Futurama theme is not 1999, it's from the 60s - by Pierre Henry
If I recall correctly is that not just the song that the Futurama theme samples? I remember seeing something about that and hearing a bit of the original and I remember the sampling changing the tune enough to be its own thing
That's incorrect - it's based on that piece but it's not the same