Thanks for doing a good job pulling screenshots and specs and putting it all together so quickly. I missed most of the live stream, the usual summary isn't yet posted to the subreddit, the video isn't posted yet to TH-cam, but really I don't need any of that because this video captures what I need. Thank you very much!
I think the fact they added the Styx after hearing the fan feedback is cool. I still think the Mirror Constitution would have been a better choice but the act is good on them. I'm still not totally sold but it did go from a would never buy to if I have some zen I may pick it up one day.
I agree that adding the Styx to the bundle was a nice gesture. I know a number of people who wanted that ship in the bundle, and it really showed that Cryptic was listening to our feedback. But yeah, for me the Styx is okay, but not something I'm really eager to pay that much for, even if it's an account unlock. But the Mirror Constitution Warship, that definitely would've gotten me to buy this bundle.
I'll probably wait for a 35% off sale, which will come sometime. Saving money for Leggy bundle in March because if we don't pull the trigger on 50% intro sale then, we'll never get it at that price. Ofc need to see it first, but have to be ready
Okay - I really enjoyed your overview and it gave me a lot of information to help me make a good decision on what to pick. So--this is what I have to say about these... The Sirius - is a SERIOUS and potent Galaxy-X. I agree that the Shield Console, was interesting, but I used it like once, and removed it. (I tripped upon a couple of really cool things when I was testing this ship this weekend after I setup the Hydra - more on that later.) The Hydra - I definitely like the ship - a lean, mean fighting machine... LMAO - while a little 'squishy', but highly maneuverable. Fun to fly. The Monitor - This is as close to the greatest surprise (AWESOME) version of the Nebula/Sutherland there has ever been and the only one that carries the ability to use Dual Cannons... So, after unlocking the other and consoles traits from both the Sirius and the Hydra - during a Ready Starship accident - on the Monitor - since it has 2 Hangar Bays - and including a couple of already unlocked traits (SAD, Dominion Coordination, Independent Wingmate) I decided to test it in battle on a patrol. Using a mix of Elite Terran Valkyries and Elite Jem'Hadar Fighters -- using the HYDRA - had some impressive results--especially when both sets are launched.... So--my next test will be... (and only because I have been a fan of your work with the Lazy Boat themed builds -- which I have duplicated with great delight--I will test this on the Monitor. CSV/FAW + IMMOULATING PHASER LANCE + HYDRA + SAD/DC/IW = GLORIOUSNESS! Back to the Sirius - I know everyone looked at this initially and was like -- dang, another Gal-X... -- not me. Not after checking out the layout and the ability to use the HYDRA with the fact that this ship does carry a Hangar. This was the first test of the Hydra in a fight and it did exactly what I hoped it would (again with Independent Wingmate, Dominion Coordination, and SAD all setup), this one--surprised me in a good way. I didn't care too much for the Shield related console. But, with the build I had on that ship--and then duplicated it on a slightly smaller scale on the Monitor - I loved the results. For the Hydra - I love the design of the ship - but the thing that was missing was a hangar - to make it stand out better. Other than that... Hydra - She's a 9.5, but she has some issues with multiple ducks not being in a row. Sirius - She's a 10, and is a reminder that Big Gals need love too... Monitor - She's a 9.6 and quiet as it's kept, she knows she's a ten and rocks the Top Hat to show it! And a side note: Fleet Akira - I had to try it on this ship as it also has a hangar. I am curious if I can duplicate this same effect I did with the Monitor onto that... Again - This combo: CSV/FAW + IMMOULATING PHASER LANCE + HYDRA + SAD/DC/IW = GLORIOUSNESS!
Jellyfish has pilot maneuvers and comes with the special Kelvin quad photon - we need a build with four of them from the muds bundle plus this console lol
I’m so excited to play around the Hydra. I’m already planning to do a Surgical strikes build on it. I do have a question I’m not sure what pilot abilities to use, what would you recommend for that station?
@@xell4701 Reroute Reserves weapons 3 is a good single target weapons ability, however, a lt cmd slot can only use RRtW 1 which is very bad, also RRtW overrides other firing modes because you can only use 1 firing mode at a time (e.g. beam fire at will, beam overload, etc). The Hydra has a commander Intel slot which allows you to use Surgical Strikes 3 which is better than Cannon rapid fire, beam over load, beam fire at will, but Cannon Scatter Volley is better than SS 3. 🙂
The command cruiser sheild effect is very similar to the Bajor Defence sheild except the BD sheild deals plasma damage and only activates when completly drained on 1 side.
cap of best offensive is +50%damage when having 100% shild but when you lose 10% of shild it already droppes to 40% and when lost 20% of shild its down to 30%. all shild counds what i have seen and maybe the lowest and not the average what makes it problematic, but maybe that get fixed?
Keep doing what you're doing, man. I always hate it when STO content creators throw in the towel. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand. I am running my own network and there are days where I want to quit and move on... but I'm glad I didn't. You gotta remember to be your own biggest fan. You don't necessarily need an ego, but you also don't need anyone's permission to make and share your work except your own. Thanks for putting your ideas and perspectives on STO out there!
@Stu1701 If the Impeller can be triggered after the Bajoran shield goes off, I could see it working, especially if you have the Cyclical Polarity Modulator equipped to help regen the shields, after the Bajoran pop.
I think I'll get this bundle as a ship collector, the extra items and that HYDRA on the mirror Prometheus. That combined with "Superior area Denial" sounds awesome, especially on my Lexington build. I skipped out on the 10th bundle and that's seldom in the store and on sale simultaneously. Also the fact I don't own a discovery variant as well as the styx dreadnought, two ships I really am itching for. I also like to balance quality with aesthetic and the mirror universe aesthetic is something I really like. It's currently out and on sale on console, so I'll grind for as much zen as I can before that sale ends.
I've had a lot of fun with the Eagle and Hydra so far. I did have the full MV console for the Hydra though. The Eagle is a touch squishy. In a patrol where there's no one else to share agro that console can be dangerous to use because everything can attack you while you're dropping bombs.
The trait off of it makes me wonder if any of the galaxys or odysseys are full carriers. I know the legendary verity has a single bay. With the Hydra’s trait? Could be amusing!
I wish. None of the regular galaxy classes even have a hangar bay. All the Galaxy-x dreads have one. And only the Legendary Odyssey and Lexington have one, because again, dreadnoughts. None of them have two hangar bays.
Ok so they made a carrier version of the Nebula.. interesting.. Wonder how it works if you kitbash another mission pod on it or just use a stock nebula skin.. Where will the pets be stored? o.O
Nebula is just a galaxy saucer on a wierd body. Have you looked at the plans for the main shuttle bay on the galaxy? It's a frikin airport! The hangar pod looks to be more about speed of launch than capacity.
Yes. Pretty much all Terran Empire ships have Federation skins. Pretty sure the only exception is the Styx, as there is no Federation counterpart to it.
In a similar boat where after the leak last year I was looking forward to this bundle for the Hydra and Eagle. Add in another Nebula which is a favorite of mine and it felt like an instant purchase. Of course now, with a meh 4th new ship and neither bundle exclusive ship standing out even with the zen already being on my account it may well be a coin flip if I purchase it rather than simply use 100% coupons.
I might buy the Hydra just because I want a good CSV ship for my temporal recruit and its currently using the Adamant which I already have on a different toon so want something else, also the trait would be really good for my gamma recruit which is a sci carrier using the Alliance carrier event ship. 30% boost to my pet damage seems quite appealing
Have been thinking about this if it had been a Sovereign. Hell, ANY of the other heavy starfleet cruisers. I mean, they threw a lance onto the odyssey, turned the galaxy saucer into an axe head…why not make the Sovereign or Inquiry… I am sure the list goes on n on n on.
Honestly I was kinda meh at first but seeing the stats especially for the Hydra (cool name) and the Eagle it’s a go for the whole bundle getting all those ships on account unlock (I have the 32c Crossfield and the Legendary, we won’t talk about that though🤣) But Stu, it was super brief however they announced we are getting the Enterprise F bridge playable at some point, lol that was the highlight for me man! Really awesome that they have listened both with that and also adding in the Styx, acc unlocked is a sweetener for sure! Great video as always man looking forward to the build videos as these ships come out 🤩
Yeah, they talked about the new Enterprise-F bridge. I'll be excited when it's actually available to me in game. Until I don't want to get my hopes up.
Thanks for update, Stu. I think I'll run the math on what I would actually want/ need against this bundle as well. Eagle looks good only because I'm experimenting with torps and your Trailblazer torp build vid really worked well for me. Styx might be in line too. Thanks again for your hard research and get some sleep!
I have the Styx on my main account and it's not really something I need an account unlock for. I like it, but it maneuvers like a dinosaur stuck in the La Brea tar pits. I don't want another version of Glenn, I have the 10th Anniversary bundle and don't fly that one ship that often unless I'm on my Disco science character (I like the new skin though). The rest I'll get individually, unless the initial discounted price of the whole bundle is near what I'd pay for the 4 remaining ships.
The other thing about the new trait is that even though ETM will likely give you more spreads, a single Torp spread 2 spams out the same number of torps as two spread 1s. And I don’t have to give up any seating to make it work!
Again, a Legendary Terran Titan would definitely have been very cool and gotten twice as much interest. Quote me on this one day. It'll either bite me or bless me. Either way I'd have it coming.
@@Stu1701 I'd be fine with science, but while the whole "Science Destroyer" thing comes across REALLY awesome on paper it really makes no sense, where as if I could "flip my build" at that button press... Whole other story. I'd want EVERY ship to be a science destroyer.
The Styx will be part of the bundle, it will not be sold separately in the C-store like the four new ships. Like the Mirror Engle in last year's bundle. Technically it will still be available separately, but only because it will still be in the Infinity lock boxes as well. This bundle will be the only way to unlock it on your whole account.
The Monitor, being Tetryon focused, makes me think the ship might have been developed into a carrier using Caitian tech, since their ships tend to focus on Tetryon weaponry. I could see the ship being really useful for the console and trait for Tetryon players though. Might have to get this ship for my Tetryon Kitty Captain
I think it was more for the sake of tetryon really needing something to buff it, it's been the neglected damage type for quite a long time, but also feeds into the theme of draining shields, seems to be the idea behind that ship.
@@Stu1701 Oh, totally. I just also like the idea that the Terran Empire used Caitian tech to help make the ship, ergo the bonuses to my Tetry-kitty's incoming console! But you're right, Tetryon really needs more stuff.
I look at it like this 7 ships ( which is effectively what we get ) would normally run 21000 zen, or about 13500 during a 35% sale. So the bundle is already a better value than getting them on there own. All the extra stuff is just quite a lot of icing on top. basically getting, what, another 30$ free? And yeah, some of the ships aren't that great, but one never knows when they will rebalance the game again. And I was thinking of using my event reward for the Styx, so this just saves me that :) Also the EV suit apparently comes with some extra powers like the red angle one, something about time warps.
I've just finished my video and I should say thanks to you because this video of yours really helped me out Also I can't help but point out isn't it funny how the styx everything good about the Sirius class dial up to 10 lol 😆
I know right, really goes to show that the addition of the Styx was a last minute thought. The Sirius felt even more boring with that. Two dreadnoughts in the same bundle, really an odd choice. Should've been the Mirror Warship.
Disappointed with the Crossfield, already have it. Would prefer to have the mirror Galaxy and Nebulas to be full carriers. The Styx as an account unlock, thumbs up! Are those ship slots an account unlock or only on the first toon to open it up?
One thing, the mirror Legendary Galaxy-X is a 5/3 layout, not a 4/4 like the Sirius as stated in the video. As I understand it, 5/3 is not well suited for torpedo builds. They should have gone with a mirror-Sovereign. There are a ton of Galaxy variants in the game. I would also say that the bundle is a bit more appealing to guys like me that haven't played the game as long and are seriously lacking in Dilithium. Tech upgrades, TX6 coupons, etc. are pretty nice to have. Also, I'm totally with you on the EV suit.
You're right, I did forget to mention the Leg Gal-X is a 5/3. But even with that they still very similar. If anything it actually makes the legendary a bit more versatile.
I'm on the fence with this. I like the Hydra and Eagle for sure. The Styx would be awesome on my tank character (my torp toon is happy with the S31 HBC) and it's obviously a great account unlock but, I dunno ... I was sort of expecting the Mirror Warship with an awesome trait I could use on all 12 toons - that would have been an instant buy, as would Crossfield Refit. If I get the bundle it's more a temporary boredom alleviator than anything else.
Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat. I like sone of the new ships, and I think the Styx is cool but I don't really think it's worth it for price of the bundle. At least, for me. But yeah, if it had been Mirror Warship and/or the Crossfiels Refit, would be a definite buy.
I decided to just buy the hydra for my pet builds. Styx is something I really like but I hardly ever fly the same ship on more than one character, and the main appeal of the Styx are mainly bound to the ship itself rather than the traits or console, so I probably would just get the ship via event campaign. As much as I love carrier, the Monitor just doesn't look like a carrier to me (that's why I still fly the Fleet Jupiter). I own the 10th anniversary bundle, so as you said, the Mirror Crossfield adds no value to me.
I know this video is about the ships in the bundle, but I actually really appreciated your comment about holo boffs. Totally agree! I guess they're good for leveling and maybe themed characters? But yeah, now that I've been playing for a while, it does seem...odd...to have legacy characters in your crew, even if they are photonic. (Especially when it's the TOS holo boffs on a 2409 toon.) Really feels like the point of STO is to be in the Trek universe but have your own adventures. Anyway, this is all to say that my main toon is at capacity with his OWN crew, so I've been vaporizing the holo boffs one by one. Sorry, holo boffs!
some people really like having boffs of their favorite characters, which I understand. But yeah, I've always preferred to just make my own boffs and craft my own bridge crew. Feels much more immersive that way. Though it's funny because I actually do own most of the holo boffs, I just hardly use them.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your time and dedication to this game. You always give great tips plus I'm digging the head gear. Thanks for everything!
Thank you very much! I'm still on the fence about this one. They've burned us so many times I'm wondering what they're going to nerf out of this in two weeks.
I felt the same way about the verity, its the only legendary to not have a second specialization seat for who knows what reason. So honestly I like the Sirius one the ships I'm most looking forward to it will make a excellent tanking ship.
Yeah, I might have to give this bundle a skip. I'm only really interested in the Hydra. _Maybe_ the Monitor, more for kitbashing in the ship-tailor than gameplay. Probably better to buy those separately. I don't care for the Styx, I already have the Legendary Crossfield (for that matter, one of my toons still has the Mirror Crossfield from before the Legendary came out). The extra Ultimate Tech upgrades would be nice, but even on-sale, the bundle is going to be about £110 GBP, I can't justify that at the moment. We know in a few months the Constitution III from Star Trek: Picard will almost certainly be a gamble-ship, be it lockbox or R&D Promo, would rather save my money for that. I do appreciate that they took this opportunity to bring us a T6 Aquarius, kind of wish more of the bundle was dedicated to doing that; give us a T6 Cheyenne and a T6 Pioneer instead of just more versions of the Galaxy-X.
Like you said, I'm probably going to only get the Hydra. Mainly as the Hydra has so much on it, that I want to play with. So, no Anniversary Pack for me. 2400 Zen well spent.
I feel like the Hydra is going to be the star of this bundle. The Prometheus is already a long time fan favorite, it's the only one best suited for energy weapons, and it's the only one with a console and trait that will have a good amount of use on multiple different ships.
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing more Flight Deck Carriers added to the game in general. We haven't seen one added since the 10th anniversary bundle with the Temporal Discovery Connie & that was 3 years ago now. Possibly the MW promo version & with the 10th selling as well as it does Cryptic doesn't feel the urgency to add more FDCs. They keep adding Science Carriers left and right, people just don't want them that much and understandably so. As far as the 13th... passing on the bundle I have plenty of ships, but I will pick up a Hydra.
I was initially excited for the new Nebula, but seeing it made into just a carrier is kinda meh. I was hoping for a flight deck carrier or a new ship type of a real science carrier: 4/3 weapons, secondary deflector, sensor scan, two hanger bays etc. I may still pick it up eventually because I love nebulas, but it's kinda meh now.
Yeah, I imagine a lot of people are going to be torn on the fact that it's a carrier and not a proper Sci ship like the Sutherland. Personally, I really want a Nebula that's a Spearhead.
I am torn on this one. As a Galaxy X fanboy, I thought for sure that I would buy. Now, I am wondering. I definitely want the other 3 new ships, and the Styx. But if the Styx is not avilable by itself, I might have to just bite the bullet. I may try to wait for a 35% sale, and get this and the 12th, which I definitely want.
The gal x looks like a great ship, just bad console/ trait. The seating is important. Command vs intel make completely diff builds. I can see it as a great support ship for elite but people tend to ignore group play and hide in advance.
So what I am hearing from you is that I definitely SHOULDN’T put the Cygnus console, the Sirius console and tractor beam repulsors all on the same ship together… But I want to troll so hard😂.
I don't know how well that would work just because I don't think the hyper plasma would get the shared cool down bonus. It kinda operates on its own rules, like tricobolts.
Technically, they put the Styx in the same bundle as the Sirius, as the Styx's inclusion was a last minute decision due to the negative reaction to the Mirror Crossfield. But yeah, the two are very similar, people will likely choose one or the other. Another reason the Mirror Warship would've been better, it's not as similar to the Hydra or Eagle. It's a warship so it has no experimental weapon, and it's not full spec so you're going to be limited to the basic firing mode (while the other two are full Intel and Pilot respectively).
I don't know. I want the styx. But do I want it that badly? I do like carriers as well. I'll probably wait for a heavier discount tbh. 25% off is not enough. This game is already far too expansive as it is.
last year i bought the 12th anniversary pack and this year I bought 13th anniversary pack. Sadly regret buying them both... Honestly I am tired of the Terran stuff. Oh well, we will see what the 14th Anniversary will bring.
@@Stu1701 dont forget to remind them that we have 32c shuttles in the game now... nice valkyrie shuttles etc... lets see some FDC love added, its been to long!
They should replace the Crossfield withe the mirror warship and make it actually worth it, to me as it currently stands, it’s meh, I probably won’t buy it, there’s a few cool ones but nothing that really, “I want it!!” In this bundle
No yur right, that pissed me off so bad. I thought it was a big at first but nope, it was a blatant "F$#& you" to the players that spent their hard earned cash on that legendary pack with that crappy ship.
I played Star trek online in past few hundred hours. Mostly story. Game can be allot of fun and i did have allot of fun playing story but i don't think it is worth sink money in that game mostly because it is pay to win and very outdated. Space combat is where game is at its best but ground combat and missions are not worth mentioning.
Jem'Hadar Vanguard is a 4/2 Sci Carrier. You're WAY more charitable to the Monitor than I am. This ship sucks. Carrier's are expensive to get up to snuff, and even if you have all the money in the world, pets remain weak. This is even if you have Scramble Fighters, Wing Commander, Superior Area Denial, all of it. Miracle Worker lends itself to DEW, and while SciDew is feasible, on a carrier, you have to make sacrifices you otherwise wouldn't on a standard EPG ship. Full Temp Ops or bust. This is on top of Sci Carriers losing the secondary deflector, which is a hefty chunk of potential DPS. Finally, penetration is the name of the game. This console, nor the trait do enough to circumvent this. It's niche, and I don't see Tachyon Beam being any more desirable after this than it was on any build that didn't already incorporate it. My Jem fly's the Vanguard, but that was simply because I had the traits to make it work, and it was different than Torps and Beams. That said, I don't pull him out much anymore. The Sirius is just insulting. I seriously have no idea who thought this was a good idea *at all*. Even if this was a C-Store ship you could buy with a coupon, the Legendary Gal-X dread is infinitely superior, even as a DEW ship. It's 5/3, full Intel, so you can make Surgical Strikes work there, and the Command seat is a universal, so flavor to taste. The addition of the Styx to the 13th bundle means you have an infinitely better Torp/Tank platform. That said, if you like torps, you're getting the Aquarius anyway. This ship is abysmal from top to bottom. The trait is crap, the console is getting airlocked, and the Lt Engineering seat is laughable. Every part of this thing feels like a massive "fuck you". The Nebula should have been a full Temp multi-mission science vessel, and the Sirius should have been the carrier. The Crossfield was a joke, but even having added the Styx, these ships are bad enough that it really tanks the value of the bundle. Absolutely silly, thoughtless decisions made here. As for your rant: per character unlocks in bundles is a horrific, shitty practice. The Weyoun BOFF from the Jem'Hadar pack, the thompson from the Picard pack, so on and so forth. I feel you. For the amount of money they're demanding people spend in this game, that's a major slap in the face to anyone that *is* willing to shell out.
Oh yeah! I always forget the Jem'hadar Vanguard carrier is 4/2. I know, I have a bit of a soft spot for carrier. MW definitely isn't the best option for it. But what what you're saying about the secondary deflector, I don't think carrier need a one. Instead, I think they need to focus on making the pets more viable in combat, because that's what makes carriers unique. And again, you're right about the MW seating, it really doesn't help his aspect either, but I think it's the direction they should go with. They seem to be already, with the trait and console we saw on the Hydra, but I really think they need to give carriers something more, like a passive buff to pets, kinda like how raiders get raider flanking. Sci carriers should get standing buffs to pets to make them more effective. Yeah, the Sirius I'm really not impressed with, and the more I think about it the less I like it. You're right about the Crossfield, it wasn't a well thought out addition, and while the Styx is a good ship, I don't think it's $130 good. The Mirror Engle from last year had so much more appeal as an account unlock because of its trait and console. The Styx doesn't have that practical value, having one would be nice but I really dont need it unlocked on my account. Mirror Warship would've been great to have unlocked account-wide because of it's trait. Single character unlocks in general have always bothered me. It just feels ridiculous that they expect us to play multiple characters with how much of the stuff in this game will only unlock on one character.
If I had any confidence they could bring carrier pets up to parity, I'd agree. I think Jonathon made an off handed comment about taking a look at carrier pets in the stream, but given the shield changes...I'm not optimistic. Especially given that some of them are locked to a specific ship. Give me the Empire Frigates on any ship with a hangar, for instance, and then at least I'm listening. Until then, the required investment is too steep for the for relative performance. I don't even need carrier's to be great in Elite, just...better in regular/advanced content. If someone likes carriers, they like them. So be it. I really just wanted a Nebula closer to the Verne, and given that the 12th was a pretty good bundle all around, I was hoping we'd get something like that there. Looks like I'm sticking with the Sutherland. Agreed on the rest of your points. I'm especially unimpressed with Holo-Boffs. I think the promo Bashir was one of the only ones that was remotely interesting, the rest I just sort of have sitting in boxes or unclaimed. In fact, BOFF's in general make me seriously unhappy. For meta purposes, you're down to Rom's or Watchers for bridge officers, and although you get very little from ground, Jem'Hadar and a couple of specials like Nelen Exil. All of which are, of course, not really customizable. Is it too much to ask for BOFF's similar in power to Jem or Romulan's that I can put in a freaking Starfleet uniform?
It's a bit of a staple here on my channel. It's a build usually consisting of all turrets along with consoles and abilities that all have 360 degree firing arc, so everything can be fired from all directions no matter what we you're facing. I have a few build videos for them here on my channel.
Feel like the dreadnaught is there just to raise the price of the bundle. Too bad, I really liked the design of that class, but your always scavenging from other ships to make it decent
None of those ship bundles are "worth it". They way over-charge for their ships and super over-charge for their bundles. I would never buy one, and I have purchased several ships plus I have a paid membership. And don't get me started on how much of a rip-off "Mudd" is. Even worse you can't get many of the bundle ships separately, so they try and force you to pay through the nose. Screw them, they can't have my money at these prices.
Official blog post for the bundle: www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11536723
As a carrier fan, I am looking forward to the extra *checks notes* tachyon build damage
Thanks for doing a good job pulling screenshots and specs and putting it all together so quickly. I missed most of the live stream, the usual summary isn't yet posted to the subreddit, the video isn't posted yet to TH-cam, but really I don't need any of that because this video captures what I need. Thank you very much!
I think the fact they added the Styx after hearing the fan feedback is cool. I still think the Mirror Constitution would have been a better choice but the act is good on them. I'm still not totally sold but it did go from a would never buy to if I have some zen I may pick it up one day.
I agree that adding the Styx to the bundle was a nice gesture. I know a number of people who wanted that ship in the bundle, and it really showed that Cryptic was listening to our feedback. But yeah, for me the Styx is okay, but not something I'm really eager to pay that much for, even if it's an account unlock. But the Mirror Constitution Warship, that definitely would've gotten me to buy this bundle.
I'll probably wait for a 35% off sale, which will come sometime. Saving money for Leggy bundle in March because if we don't pull the trigger on 50% intro sale then, we'll never get it at that price. Ofc need to see it first, but have to be ready
Okay - I really enjoyed your overview and it gave me a lot of information to help me make a good decision on what to pick.
So--this is what I have to say about these...
The Sirius - is a SERIOUS and potent Galaxy-X. I agree that the Shield Console, was interesting, but I used it like once, and removed it. (I tripped upon a couple of really cool things when I was testing this ship this weekend after I setup the Hydra - more on that later.)
The Hydra - I definitely like the ship - a lean, mean fighting machine... LMAO - while a little 'squishy', but highly maneuverable. Fun to fly.
The Monitor - This is as close to the greatest surprise (AWESOME) version of the Nebula/Sutherland there has ever been and the only one that carries the ability to use Dual Cannons... So, after unlocking the other and consoles traits from both the Sirius and the Hydra - during a Ready Starship accident - on the Monitor - since it has 2 Hangar Bays - and including a couple of already unlocked traits (SAD, Dominion Coordination, Independent Wingmate) I decided to test it in battle on a patrol. Using a mix of Elite Terran Valkyries and Elite Jem'Hadar Fighters -- using the HYDRA - had some impressive results--especially when both sets are launched.... So--my next test will be... (and only because I have been a fan of your work with the Lazy Boat themed builds -- which I have duplicated with great delight--I will test this on the Monitor.
CSV/FAW + IMMOULATING PHASER LANCE + HYDRA + SAD/DC/IW = GLORIOUSNESS!
Back to the Sirius - I know everyone looked at this initially and was like -- dang, another Gal-X... -- not me. Not after checking out the layout and the ability to use the HYDRA with the fact that this ship does carry a Hangar. This was the first test of the Hydra in a fight and it did exactly what I hoped it would (again with Independent Wingmate, Dominion Coordination, and SAD all setup), this one--surprised me in a good way. I didn't care too much for the Shield related console. But, with the build I had on that ship--and then duplicated it on a slightly smaller scale on the Monitor - I loved the results.
For the Hydra - I love the design of the ship - but the thing that was missing was a hangar - to make it stand out better. Other than that...
Hydra - She's a 9.5, but she has some issues with multiple ducks not being in a row.
Sirius - She's a 10, and is a reminder that Big Gals need love too...
Monitor - She's a 9.6 and quiet as it's kept, she knows she's a ten and rocks the Top Hat to show it!
And a side note:
Fleet Akira - I had to try it on this ship as it also has a hangar. I am curious if I can duplicate this same effect I did with the Monitor onto that...
Again - This combo: CSV/FAW + IMMOULATING PHASER LANCE + HYDRA + SAD/DC/IW = GLORIOUSNESS!
Jellyfish has pilot maneuvers and comes with the special Kelvin quad photon - we need a build with four of them from the muds bundle plus this console lol
Interesting that the Monitor is a carrier, I should probably get this.
I’m so excited to play around the Hydra. I’m already planning to do a Surgical strikes build on it.
I do have a question I’m not sure what pilot abilities to use, what would you recommend for that station?
Fly Her Apart 1 in the Lt. Cmd slot, give a big Cat 2 bonus damage boost, you can also use Clean Getaway as an unconventional systems proc
@@jeffjeff3383 thank you 🙏 I’m not that familiar with pilot boff abilities
I was looking at reroute reserves to weapons too
@@xell4701 Reroute Reserves weapons 3 is a good single target weapons ability, however, a lt cmd slot can only use RRtW 1 which is very bad, also RRtW overrides other firing modes because you can only use 1 firing mode at a time (e.g. beam fire at will, beam overload, etc). The Hydra has a commander Intel slot which allows you to use Surgical Strikes 3 which is better than Cannon rapid fire, beam over load, beam fire at will, but Cannon Scatter Volley is better than SS 3. 🙂
@@jeffjeff3383 thank you again bud much appreciated 🖖 that’s really helpful
What @jeffjeff3383 said
The command cruiser sheild effect is very similar to the Bajor Defence sheild except the BD sheild deals plasma damage and only activates when completly drained on 1 side.
cap of best offensive is +50%damage when having 100% shild but when you lose 10% of shild it already droppes to 40% and when lost 20% of shild its down to 30%. all shild counds what i have seen and maybe the lowest and not the average what makes it problematic, but maybe that get fixed?
Keep doing what you're doing, man. I always hate it when STO content creators throw in the towel. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand. I am running my own network and there are days where I want to quit and move on... but I'm glad I didn't. You gotta remember to be your own biggest fan. You don't necessarily need an ego, but you also don't need anyone's permission to make and share your work except your own.
Thanks for putting your ideas and perspectives on STO out there!
The Biaxial Graviton Impeller would be interesting when paired with the Bajoran Defense shield.
I don't know if it would because I would think the console would just push enemies out of range of the Bajoran shield effect
@Stu1701
If the Impeller can be triggered after the Bajoran shield goes off, I could see it working, especially if you have the Cyclical Polarity Modulator equipped to help regen the shields, after the Bajoran pop.
I think I'll get this bundle as a ship collector, the extra items and that HYDRA on the mirror Prometheus. That combined with "Superior area Denial" sounds awesome, especially on my Lexington build. I skipped out on the 10th bundle and that's seldom in the store and on sale simultaneously. Also the fact I don't own a discovery variant as well as the styx dreadnought, two ships I really am itching for. I also like to balance quality with aesthetic and the mirror universe aesthetic is something I really like. It's currently out and on sale on console, so I'll grind for as much zen as I can before that sale ends.
I've had a lot of fun with the Eagle and Hydra so far. I did have the full MV console for the Hydra though. The Eagle is a touch squishy. In a patrol where there's no one else to share agro that console can be dangerous to use because everything can attack you while you're dropping bombs.
The trait off of it makes me wonder if any of the galaxys or odysseys are full carriers. I know the legendary verity has a single bay. With the Hydra’s trait? Could be amusing!
I wish. None of the regular galaxy classes even have a hangar bay. All the Galaxy-x dreads have one. And only the Legendary Odyssey and Lexington have one, because again, dreadnoughts. None of them have two hangar bays.
Okay maybe I'm to tired but did they say what day this is coming out?
Thursday
I am actually impressed by some of the traits how unusual to make 2 decent traits out of 6.
Ok so they made a carrier version of the Nebula.. interesting.. Wonder how it works if you kitbash another mission pod on it or just use a stock nebula skin.. Where will the pets be stored? o.O
Nebula is just a galaxy saucer on a wierd body. Have you looked at the plans for the main shuttle bay on the galaxy? It's a frikin airport! The hangar pod looks to be more about speed of launch than capacity.
So you're saying Cryptic threw the dogs some Styx? :D
Shouldn't a ship with a hull modifier of 1.45 have a higher base hull then 65250 ?... or am i being the n00b i think i am ?....
My main question with this is - can you remove the Mirror decals?
Yes. Pretty much all Terran Empire ships have Federation skins. Pretty sure the only exception is the Styx, as there is no Federation counterpart to it.
In a similar boat where after the leak last year I was looking forward to this bundle for the Hydra and Eagle. Add in another Nebula which is a favorite of mine and it felt like an instant purchase. Of course now, with a meh 4th new ship and neither bundle exclusive ship standing out even with the zen already being on my account it may well be a coin flip if I purchase it rather than simply use 100% coupons.
I'm with you on the same three ships. I don't see the value of the bundle on this one. Not including Terran Goodbye helps save me money.
I might buy the Hydra just because I want a good CSV ship for my temporal recruit and its currently using the Adamant which I already have on a different toon so want something else, also the trait would be really good for my gamma recruit which is a sci carrier using the Alliance carrier event ship. 30% boost to my pet damage seems quite appealing
Maybe the Sirius should have been a cstore version of the -j --- give it a phaser lance and make it a heavy (2 bay) dread cruiser
Have been thinking about this if it had been a Sovereign. Hell, ANY of the other heavy starfleet cruisers. I mean, they threw a lance onto the odyssey, turned the galaxy saucer into an axe head…why not make the Sovereign or Inquiry… I am sure the list goes on n on n on.
great vid you are the only on to cover the mirror crossfield and and Styx in any degree thanks
There was such a big fuss over them and how they effected the value of the bundle, it seemed like a good idea to explain why lol
I'm just gonna get the Hydra. Looks interesting and I'm a Prometheus fan boy lol
Honestly I was kinda meh at first but seeing the stats especially for the Hydra (cool name) and the Eagle it’s a go for the whole bundle getting all those ships on account unlock (I have the 32c Crossfield and the Legendary, we won’t talk about that though🤣) But Stu, it was super brief however they announced we are getting the Enterprise F bridge playable at some point, lol that was the highlight for me man! Really awesome that they have listened both with that and also adding in the Styx, acc unlocked is a sweetener for sure! Great video as always man looking forward to the build videos as these ships come out 🤩
Yeah, they talked about the new Enterprise-F bridge. I'll be excited when it's actually available to me in game. Until I don't want to get my hopes up.
Thanks for update, Stu. I think I'll run the math on what I would actually want/ need against this bundle as well. Eagle looks good only because I'm experimenting with torps and your Trailblazer torp build vid really worked well for me. Styx might be in line too. Thanks again for your hard research and get some sleep!
I have the Styx on my main account and it's not really something I need an account unlock for. I like it, but it maneuvers like a dinosaur stuck in the La Brea tar pits. I don't want another version of Glenn, I have the 10th Anniversary bundle and don't fly that one ship that often unless I'm on my Disco science character (I like the new skin though). The rest I'll get individually, unless the initial discounted price of the whole bundle is near what I'd pay for the 4 remaining ships.
The other thing about the new trait is that even though ETM will likely give you more spreads, a single Torp spread 2 spams out the same number of torps as two spread 1s. And I don’t have to give up any seating to make it work!
I just bought the New nebula because i like Nebula class and this has hangars and like more customization for my nebula class.
Again, a Legendary Terran Titan would definitely have been very cool and gotten twice as much interest. Quote me on this one day. It'll either bite me or bless me. Either way I'd have it coming.
YESSSSS! Titan would've been so much cooler! And because it'd be a mirror ship they wouldn't have to make it a freakin' science destroyer
@@Stu1701 I'd be fine with science, but while the whole "Science Destroyer" thing comes across REALLY awesome on paper it really makes no sense, where as if I could "flip my build" at that button press... Whole other story. I'd want EVERY ship to be a science destroyer.
Do we know for sure if we can get the Styx separately, or I'd that part of the bundle?
The Styx will be part of the bundle, it will not be sold separately in the C-store like the four new ships. Like the Mirror Engle in last year's bundle.
Technically it will still be available separately, but only because it will still be in the Infinity lock boxes as well. This bundle will be the only way to unlock it on your whole account.
@@Stu1701 Thank you!
The Monitor, being Tetryon focused, makes me think the ship might have been developed into a carrier using Caitian tech, since their ships tend to focus on Tetryon weaponry. I could see the ship being really useful for the console and trait for Tetryon players though. Might have to get this ship for my Tetryon Kitty Captain
I think it was more for the sake of tetryon really needing something to buff it, it's been the neglected damage type for quite a long time, but also feeds into the theme of draining shields, seems to be the idea behind that ship.
@@Stu1701 Oh, totally. I just also like the idea that the Terran Empire used Caitian tech to help make the ship, ergo the bonuses to my Tetry-kitty's incoming console! But you're right, Tetryon really needs more stuff.
I look at it like this 7 ships ( which is effectively what we get ) would normally run 21000 zen, or about 13500 during a 35% sale. So the bundle is already a better value than getting them on there own. All the extra stuff is just quite a lot of icing on top. basically getting, what, another 30$ free? And yeah, some of the ships aren't that great, but one never knows when they will rebalance the game again. And I was thinking of using my event reward for the Styx, so this just saves me that :) Also the EV suit apparently comes with some extra powers like the red angle one, something about time warps.
I've just finished my video and I should say thanks to you because this video of yours really helped me out
Also I can't help but point out isn't it funny how the styx everything good about the Sirius class dial up to 10 lol 😆
I know right, really goes to show that the addition of the Styx was a last minute thought. The Sirius felt even more boring with that. Two dreadnoughts in the same bundle, really an odd choice. Should've been the Mirror Warship.
A Nebula with a bunch of fighters? That's is SO Dominion War era, I can't wait!
I'm surprised we don't have a mirror vesta
Tbh the only thing in this bundle that would have interested me was the Galaxy-x skin, if the ship wasn't completely useless.
I love my Temer still! I love the A.F.S. ships. I'm picking up just the Hydra, Aquarius makes me squint lol
Thanks for the shoutout, Stu! I appreciate it. I am VERY eager to get my hands on that nebula. Excellent breakdown of this bundle!
Your welcome! Yeah, I figured you'd by interested in that Nebula with that trait.
@@Stu1701 gears are already turning for a Banshee 2.0
Disappointed with the Crossfield, already have it. Would prefer to have the mirror Galaxy and Nebulas to be full carriers. The Styx as an account unlock, thumbs up! Are those ship slots an account unlock or only on the first toon to open it up?
they'll apply to the toon you open them on, I assume.
@@Stu1701 And that's where the costs go up. How many toons do you want to buy ship slots for? Things to consider.
One thing, the mirror Legendary Galaxy-X is a 5/3 layout, not a 4/4 like the Sirius as stated in the video. As I understand it, 5/3 is not well suited for torpedo builds. They should have gone with a mirror-Sovereign. There are a ton of Galaxy variants in the game. I would also say that the bundle is a bit more appealing to guys like me that haven't played the game as long and are seriously lacking in Dilithium. Tech upgrades, TX6 coupons, etc. are pretty nice to have.
Also, I'm totally with you on the EV suit.
You're right, I did forget to mention the Leg Gal-X is a 5/3. But even with that they still very similar. If anything it actually makes the legendary a bit more versatile.
Most likely getting the bundle. Though honestly, I'm mostly interested in the Hydra, Monitor, and Eagle.
Yeah, those are the three I'm interested in, but I'm not getting the bundle. I don't care enough about the Styx to spend that much.
I hope we'll just be able to buy them individually. I really only want the Styx Terran Dreadnought.
I'm on the fence with this. I like the Hydra and Eagle for sure. The Styx would be awesome on my tank character (my torp toon is happy with the S31 HBC) and it's obviously a great account unlock but, I dunno ... I was sort of expecting the Mirror Warship with an awesome trait I could use on all 12 toons - that would have been an instant buy, as would Crossfield Refit. If I get the bundle it's more a temporary boredom alleviator than anything else.
Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat. I like sone of the new ships, and I think the Styx is cool but I don't really think it's worth it for price of the bundle. At least, for me. But yeah, if it had been Mirror Warship and/or the Crossfiels Refit, would be a definite buy.
The new console and Swarmer Matrix should be pretty nasty.
I decided to just buy the hydra for my pet builds. Styx is something I really like but I hardly ever fly the same ship on more than one character, and the main appeal of the Styx are mainly bound to the ship itself rather than the traits or console, so I probably would just get the ship via event campaign. As much as I love carrier, the Monitor just doesn't look like a carrier to me (that's why I still fly the Fleet Jupiter). I own the 10th anniversary bundle, so as you said, the Mirror Crossfield adds no value to me.
I know this video is about the ships in the bundle, but I actually really appreciated your comment about holo boffs. Totally agree! I guess they're good for leveling and maybe themed characters? But yeah, now that I've been playing for a while, it does seem...odd...to have legacy characters in your crew, even if they are photonic. (Especially when it's the TOS holo boffs on a 2409 toon.) Really feels like the point of STO is to be in the Trek universe but have your own adventures. Anyway, this is all to say that my main toon is at capacity with his OWN crew, so I've been vaporizing the holo boffs one by one. Sorry, holo boffs!
some people really like having boffs of their favorite characters, which I understand. But yeah, I've always preferred to just make my own boffs and craft my own bridge crew. Feels much more immersive that way. Though it's funny because I actually do own most of the holo boffs, I just hardly use them.
Think I'm just gonna grab the eagle and the hydra ships. Nothing else in the bundle really calls out to me.
I skipped the legendary vesta bundle because of the ev suit single unlock
Seriously wanted the mirror warship instead of the mirror crossfield.
I've been enjoying the mirror crossfield 😅 thow trying to build a DEWSCI
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your time and dedication to this game. You always give great tips plus I'm digging the head gear.
Thanks for everything!
I appreciate that!
Thank you very much! I'm still on the fence about this one. They've burned us so many times I'm wondering what they're going to nerf out of this in two weeks.
The Sirius's BO layout is exactly what i wanted a Sovereign to have. Guess that wont ever happen now :(
I felt the same way about the verity, its the only legendary to not have a second specialization seat for who knows what reason. So honestly I like the Sirius one the ships I'm most looking forward to it will make a excellent tanking ship.
The Exp Weapon keeps reminding me of Gun Bits from the Gundam franchise. 😄
The Eagle is pretty much exactly what I was hoping the Legendary Bird-of-Prey would be.
Any Idea when this will be released for Xbox?
Cryptic hasn't made an announcement yet, but it shouldn't be long now.
I still use that damned weaponized helical torsion because I don't have a Bajoran ship account unlocked😂
Yeah, I might have to give this bundle a skip. I'm only really interested in the Hydra. _Maybe_ the Monitor, more for kitbashing in the ship-tailor than gameplay. Probably better to buy those separately. I don't care for the Styx, I already have the Legendary Crossfield (for that matter, one of my toons still has the Mirror Crossfield from before the Legendary came out). The extra Ultimate Tech upgrades would be nice, but even on-sale, the bundle is going to be about £110 GBP, I can't justify that at the moment. We know in a few months the Constitution III from Star Trek: Picard will almost certainly be a gamble-ship, be it lockbox or R&D Promo, would rather save my money for that.
I do appreciate that they took this opportunity to bring us a T6 Aquarius, kind of wish more of the bundle was dedicated to doing that; give us a T6 Cheyenne and a T6 Pioneer instead of just more versions of the Galaxy-X.
More than anything else. . I probably buy it just for the different Skins. . I may try a few of the other ships though.
Really enjoy my pet builds, so maybe the ones that boost them
Hydra and Eagle are designed by the new system designer, sirius and monitor are by the last one... Need I say anymore?
Hydra is insta-buy for me. As a carrier fan I'm also pondering getting the Monitor (was hoping for a Flightdeckcarrier). Thnx for the info Stu👍
Like you said, I'm probably going to only get the Hydra. Mainly as the Hydra has so much on it, that I want to play with. So, no Anniversary Pack for me. 2400 Zen well spent.
I feel like the Hydra is going to be the star of this bundle. The Prometheus is already a long time fan favorite, it's the only one best suited for energy weapons, and it's the only one with a console and trait that will have a good amount of use on multiple different ships.
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing more Flight Deck Carriers added to the game in general. We haven't seen one added since the 10th anniversary bundle with the Temporal Discovery Connie & that was 3 years ago now. Possibly the MW promo version & with the 10th selling as well as it does Cryptic doesn't feel the urgency to add more FDCs.
They keep adding Science Carriers left and right, people just don't want them that much and understandably so.
As far as the 13th... passing on the bundle I have plenty of ships, but I will pick up a Hydra.
Appreciate the video and enthusiasm! I have the funds to get.
I was initially excited for the new Nebula, but seeing it made into just a carrier is kinda meh. I was hoping for a flight deck carrier or a new ship type of a real science carrier: 4/3 weapons, secondary deflector, sensor scan, two hanger bays etc. I may still pick it up eventually because I love nebulas, but it's kinda meh now.
Yeah, I imagine a lot of people are going to be torn on the fact that it's a carrier and not a proper Sci ship like the Sutherland. Personally, I really want a Nebula that's a Spearhead.
I am torn on this one. As a Galaxy X fanboy, I thought for sure that I would buy. Now, I am wondering. I definitely want the other 3 new ships, and the Styx. But if the Styx is not avilable by itself, I might have to just bite the bullet. I may try to wait for a 35% sale, and get this and the 12th, which I definitely want.
The Styx will be exclusive to the bundle, so if you want that unlocked on your whole account you're gonna have to bit that bullet
The gal x looks like a great ship, just bad console/ trait. The seating is important. Command vs intel make completely diff builds. I can see it as a great support ship for elite but people tend to ignore group play and hide in advance.
Emphatically yes!
lets have a all fac. time ship in strengh like the Lexinton
Have you received an answer to your EV suit question/rant yet?😁
lol nope
Wow I LOVE HEALING TRAITS! - said Borticus
So what I am hearing from you is that I definitely SHOULDN’T put the Cygnus console, the Sirius console and tractor beam repulsors all on the same ship together…
But I want to troll so hard😂.
i mean, you could, just dont do it in TFOs with me lol
Eagle pilot cool down with Romulan hyper plasma.....
I don't know how well that would work just because I don't think the hyper plasma would get the shared cool down bonus. It kinda operates on its own rules, like tricobolts.
The really awkward thing about the sirius, is they put it in a bundle with the styx.
Technically, they put the Styx in the same bundle as the Sirius, as the Styx's inclusion was a last minute decision due to the negative reaction to the Mirror Crossfield. But yeah, the two are very similar, people will likely choose one or the other. Another reason the Mirror Warship would've been better, it's not as similar to the Hydra or Eagle. It's a warship so it has no experimental weapon, and it's not full spec so you're going to be limited to the basic firing mode (while the other two are full Intel and Pilot respectively).
I don't know. I want the styx. But do I want it that badly? I do like carriers as well. I'll probably wait for a heavier discount tbh. 25% off is not enough. This game is already far too expansive as it is.
last year i bought the 12th anniversary pack and this year I bought 13th anniversary pack. Sadly regret buying them both... Honestly I am tired of the Terran stuff. Oh well, we will see what the 14th Anniversary will bring.
On the fence about this bundle. The Styx may tilt me in favor of the bundle.
I imagine that's why they added it, given the poor reception of the Mirror Crossfield. Honestly, it's not enough to get me to buy the whole thing.
...and while you're at it Stu make a video about Flight Deck Carriers and explain to Cryptic that the players want more added to the game.
i should do that. i really like flight deck carriers.
@@Stu1701 dont forget to remind them that we have 32c shuttles in the game now... nice valkyrie shuttles etc... lets see some FDC love added, its been to long!
They should replace the Crossfield withe the mirror warship and make it actually worth it, to me as it currently stands, it’s meh, I probably won’t buy it, there’s a few cool ones but nothing that really, “I want it!!” In this bundle
O great our 3rd ANTI gravwell weapon... why??? Lol
Same. Might be the first anniversary bundle that I don’t buy 😕
"Tetryon,' not "tachyon."
No yur right, that pissed me off so bad. I thought it was a big at first but nope, it was a blatant "F$#& you" to the players that spent their hard earned cash on that legendary pack with that crappy ship.
it is only worth it if you want atleast 2 of the ships, if you only want the 1 ship, than no.
inly two ships im looking for is Eagle and Hydra :D the rest i care not :D
I played Star trek online in past few hundred hours. Mostly story. Game can be allot of fun and i did have allot of fun playing story but i don't think it is worth sink money in that game mostly because it is pay to win and very outdated. Space combat is where game is at its best but ground combat and missions are not worth mentioning.
Jem'Hadar Vanguard is a 4/2 Sci Carrier.
You're WAY more charitable to the Monitor than I am. This ship sucks. Carrier's are expensive to get up to snuff, and even if you have all the money in the world, pets remain weak. This is even if you have Scramble Fighters, Wing Commander, Superior Area Denial, all of it. Miracle Worker lends itself to DEW, and while SciDew is feasible, on a carrier, you have to make sacrifices you otherwise wouldn't on a standard EPG ship. Full Temp Ops or bust. This is on top of Sci Carriers losing the secondary deflector, which is a hefty chunk of potential DPS. Finally, penetration is the name of the game. This console, nor the trait do enough to circumvent this. It's niche, and I don't see Tachyon Beam being any more desirable after this than it was on any build that didn't already incorporate it. My Jem fly's the Vanguard, but that was simply because I had the traits to make it work, and it was different than Torps and Beams. That said, I don't pull him out much anymore.
The Sirius is just insulting. I seriously have no idea who thought this was a good idea *at all*. Even if this was a C-Store ship you could buy with a coupon, the Legendary Gal-X dread is infinitely superior, even as a DEW ship. It's 5/3, full Intel, so you can make Surgical Strikes work there, and the Command seat is a universal, so flavor to taste. The addition of the Styx to the 13th bundle means you have an infinitely better Torp/Tank platform. That said, if you like torps, you're getting the Aquarius anyway. This ship is abysmal from top to bottom. The trait is crap, the console is getting airlocked, and the Lt Engineering seat is laughable. Every part of this thing feels like a massive "fuck you".
The Nebula should have been a full Temp multi-mission science vessel, and the Sirius should have been the carrier. The Crossfield was a joke, but even having added the Styx, these ships are bad enough that it really tanks the value of the bundle. Absolutely silly, thoughtless decisions made here.
As for your rant: per character unlocks in bundles is a horrific, shitty practice. The Weyoun BOFF from the Jem'Hadar pack, the thompson from the Picard pack, so on and so forth. I feel you. For the amount of money they're demanding people spend in this game, that's a major slap in the face to anyone that *is* willing to shell out.
Oh yeah! I always forget the Jem'hadar Vanguard carrier is 4/2.
I know, I have a bit of a soft spot for carrier. MW definitely isn't the best option for it. But what what you're saying about the secondary deflector, I don't think carrier need a one. Instead, I think they need to focus on making the pets more viable in combat, because that's what makes carriers unique. And again, you're right about the MW seating, it really doesn't help his aspect either, but I think it's the direction they should go with. They seem to be already, with the trait and console we saw on the Hydra, but I really think they need to give carriers something more, like a passive buff to pets, kinda like how raiders get raider flanking. Sci carriers should get standing buffs to pets to make them more effective.
Yeah, the Sirius I'm really not impressed with, and the more I think about it the less I like it.
You're right about the Crossfield, it wasn't a well thought out addition, and while the Styx is a good ship, I don't think it's $130 good. The Mirror Engle from last year had so much more appeal as an account unlock because of its trait and console. The Styx doesn't have that practical value, having one would be nice but I really dont need it unlocked on my account. Mirror Warship would've been great to have unlocked account-wide because of it's trait.
Single character unlocks in general have always bothered me. It just feels ridiculous that they expect us to play multiple characters with how much of the stuff in this game will only unlock on one character.
If I had any confidence they could bring carrier pets up to parity, I'd agree. I think Jonathon made an off handed comment about taking a look at carrier pets in the stream, but given the shield changes...I'm not optimistic. Especially given that some of them are locked to a specific ship. Give me the Empire Frigates on any ship with a hangar, for instance, and then at least I'm listening. Until then, the required investment is too steep for the for relative performance. I don't even need carrier's to be great in Elite, just...better in regular/advanced content.
If someone likes carriers, they like them. So be it. I really just wanted a Nebula closer to the Verne, and given that the 12th was a pretty good bundle all around, I was hoping we'd get something like that there. Looks like I'm sticking with the Sutherland.
Agreed on the rest of your points. I'm especially unimpressed with Holo-Boffs. I think the promo Bashir was one of the only ones that was remotely interesting, the rest I just sort of have sitting in boxes or unclaimed. In fact, BOFF's in general make me seriously unhappy. For meta purposes, you're down to Rom's or Watchers for bridge officers, and although you get very little from ground, Jem'Hadar and a couple of specials like Nelen Exil. All of which are, of course, not really customizable. Is it too much to ask for BOFF's similar in power to Jem or Romulan's that I can put in a freaking Starfleet uniform?
the hydra lazy baul pet build
Here's another comment poking you, Stu, for seeing "TET-TREE-ON" and speaking it "TACK-EE-YON" :P
It was 4 in the morning! I WAS TIRED
What the hell is a lazy boat?
It's a bit of a staple here on my channel. It's a build usually consisting of all turrets along with consoles and abilities that all have 360 degree firing arc, so everything can be fired from all directions no matter what we you're facing. I have a few build videos for them here on my channel.
you were tired indeed #Tachyon :D
Its a shame I don't want the styx and I have the 10th so pass
Feel like the dreadnaught is there just to raise the price of the bundle. Too bad, I really liked the design of that class, but your always scavenging from other ships to make it decent
The bundles price was unchanged by the Styx's addition. The 12th anniversary was the same price last year.
None of those ship bundles are "worth it".
They way over-charge for their ships and super over-charge for their bundles. I would never buy one, and I have purchased several ships plus I have a paid membership. And don't get me started on how much of a rip-off "Mudd" is. Even worse you can't get many of the bundle ships separately, so they try and force you to pay through the nose. Screw them, they can't have my money at these prices.
Go to bed Stu.
What are you, my mom? 😋