Thypoch Simera 50mm F1.4 First Impressions
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You are a wonderful reviewer/photographer. I always enjoy your videos and come away having learned new stuff and good stuff. Thanks!!!
Truly appreciate the support. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
You're right. As my hobbies, i got the Leica M first and How to compare this lens with Voigtlander 50mm Nokton 1.5. What's your suggestion?
German living in the UAE. I started my M journey in 2011 with the M9M and a 50 Summicron. Which I sold to buy the 50 Lux. Over the years I tried some 3rd party lenses esp. from Voigtländer. Most of them I sold again , only the 40 1.2 stayed with me. Leica glass is much more expensive but if you stick with it for some time , you will not loose money if you sell it. The new 50 1.4 Summilux is a gem. Otherwise I am now focused on smaller lenses , like the 28 cron and for some vintage character the 35 2.0 8 elements from LLL and their 50 2.0 Elcan replica.
🇸🇬 From Singapore here, really appreciate this video, and thank you. As a hobbyist, my first and only camera i have is my M6 classic and the first lens i still have is the 35mm f2.8 Summaron. I saved for quite a long time to get the 28mm Elmarit f2.8 which i absolutely adore.
Thanks for watching ✌🏾
🇩🇪 My first lens actually was a Leica 50mm Summilux 1.4 [11891] but I added two Voigtländer lenses to my bag (35mm f2.0 and 90mm f2.8) for the range. I must say that buying a Leica doesn’t work like most other camera systems where you can say, buying the camera is not as important as the lenses. Rengefinders, especially digital rangefinders are not that common so you have to invest Leica money and it is significantly harder buying the Leica glass in one instant. So haben Thypoch, Zeiss or Voigtländer is a great way to start and step by step transform those third party lenses into Leica lenses👍 So I totally agree with Gajan on this
Nice! Thanks for sharing ✌🏾
Great video. What are those bags in the background? And those brassy leicas?
Bags are custom pieces made by Kevin Fickling. You can find more here instagram.com/decrypto_
Gajan, I was searching for reviews on this lens as I consider my options. 50mm is my favorite ‘everyday’ focal length and the 50 Lux is a lens that I dream of adding to my kit. I wondered aloud if this lens was, in some way, a viable alternative. You set the straight and I appreciate that. My first Leica lenses were the 28 Lux and the 50 Noctilux f1.1. I’ve since sold the 28 Lux because I prefer the 24 3.8. I own all three 50 Noctilux lenses, the 75 f1.25 and the 50 &;90 APO lenses. And I’m writing you from Okinawa, Japan 🇯🇵. Be Blessed, Doc Chaps
Thanks for sharing! And that 28 Elmarit is such a sneaky good lens.
My first M lens on the M10P was the Voigtlander 35mm Color Skopar F2.5. Great lens and image quality and super for street and travel photographer. Build quality is superb and I still own it and use it. It does not replace my 35 Summilux but, sometimes when I want a super small rig, its my go to choice. Great gateway to Leica glass and a manual focus experience and you can pick one up for £400 new. Regards from Plymouth. Steve 🇬🇧
Great recommendation. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
I like your approach not to pixel peep. Also your honest vote to original M lenses. My first camera and lens were a Voigtländer Bessamatic with a 50 mm 2.0 Septon lens in 1978, Both still work! I am professional photographer based in Berlin/Germany that left the Leica R EcoSystem after the company refused to develope digital but started S instead what made my tons of Leica glass useless because customers wanted digital data. I work now with Nikon Z.
USA here, great comparison. really feel the same way that these offerings from Typoch, Voigtlander, and MS optics are excellent entry points for starting out in the M system. I started out with an M3 and collapsible 50mm summicron from 1956. It was handed down to me from my grandmother and i still use it to this day.
That’s incredible! Love hearing stories like that. And I’m sure that’s a kit that’ll never leave your side. Thanks for sharing ✌🏾
funny that he failed to show a A vs B shot comparison like other reviews too show "the difference".
Like I mentioned in the video, this isn’t a review. If you want A/B comparisons, I’m sure there’s other channels that had the time to make a thorough review.
@@Dr_Pessimisto and that’s fine. I’ve shared my thoughts, and you’re free to have your opinion.
For starting off in the Leica system would you go with a typhoch 50mm f1.4 or a 50mm Rigid Summicron since they are close in price?
Rigid
🇨🇦🇨🇳 I'm a Canadian who has lived in China for over 20 years. My first M lens was a Vöigtlander 40mm f/1.4 MC, which I purchased before I had a Leica camera. I used it on Fuji cameras for years. Last year I picked up a Leica M10 (used) and the first lens I bought after the M10 purchase was a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM (used). Since then I've bought some Light Lens lab Lenses and the Thypoch Simera 28mm f/1.4. All are really very good. I'm interested in the Thypoch Simera 50mm or perhaps a used older Summilux 50. Trying to learn about them all now. I like your channel.
The older summilux could not go to 45cm just to let you know. There are also a version that only can go to 1m
I started with the 35mm lux, close focus on an m10. This combination is awesome and perfect for me. Love the rendering on the 35mm lux. Thinking about adding a 50mm Summicron for a different rendering option. Any recommendation on which version to get? Thank you for the video as I was curious about this company’s products and I trust your opinion. Watching from Maine, USA.
Love my 35 CF lux. I’m dropping a video next Wednesday that I think you should definitely watch if you’re thinking about adding another lens.
Really great to see these new affordable options for M-mount these days. When I got into the M system around 10 years ago, the more affordable options were basically just Zeiss, Voigtlander, and older screw mount lenses from the 50s adapted to M. My very first lens for my Leica M2 at the time was a Nikkor 5cm f/2. My first Leica lens was a 50 Summilux V2.
Absolutely
I bought my first Leica M240 a year ago with a 3rd party m mount lens. Big mistake. Later I tested the 50 Summilux V2, a 40 year Walter Mandler lens.I had to buy it. It was perfecty imperfect! I am 67 and I am glad I found Walter Mandler to grow old with.
Thanks for sharing ✌🏾
🦘 No Aussie flag but first lens was the 35mm summicron. Also looking forward to the upcoming collab with Kevin.
Should be a good one!
More options is ultimately a great thing. This is a nice starter lens before moving on to a Summicron or Summilux.
This makes perfect sense to me! My first M lens was the voigtlander 28mm f2 v1. I still have it and like it a lot. However I now mainly use my 35mm and 50mm summicrons. I’d love a 35mm summilux FLE someday. I would agree that the third party lenses typically do not replace the Leica. They are not the same.
Well said. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
I know that garage!!! Nice to meet you with Kevin and Charleese @ Oakley.
Haha, the infamous Decrypto workshop 🤌🏾
I started with the 50 APO and the 35 lux close-focus. I agree that there’s nothing wrong with other lenses in the M-mount lineup. I feel comfortable enough to buy the 28 APO next year because of the 28 Voigtlander I have been shooting with all year. Leica lenses are not cheap, so it is best to know that you like a 28 or a 90 rather than waste money.
Well said. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
I started with a Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.2 lens when I got my first Leica M body (Leica M10). Still have that lens even though I graduated to the Leica 50mm f1.4 Summilux. Some of these third party lenses like Voigtlander and Thypoch to me, offer a more vintage rendering at an affordable price where as the new Summilux offer more precision and prestige optical quality.
For awhile if a Leica photographer wanted to get into a more vintage rendering they would have to buy a vintage Leica lens for several thousand dollars.
I think these new third party offerings could be a good compliment to your Leica glass when you want to add some more character to your images in certain scenarios without breaking the bank.
As always - great video, Gajan!
Thank you, and thanks for sharing ✌🏾
You r absolutely right
🇺🇸 NYC! I'm excited to see the lens. I'm trying to talk Thypoch into sending me a unit to test. haha Fingers crossed. My first lens was the 50mm Summicron V4 that my friend sold me on a deal. I still have it and will probably never sell it. It's magical.
That V4 is special. Thanks for watching brother✌🏾
I think to someone who's about to buy a lens to bridge a gap I would rather recommend a used Zeiss 50 f/2 Planar or something similar. The benefit there is that you lose a minimal amount (if any) money when you sell it. If you don't have the money to get the right lens right away, you certainly also don't have money to throw at any company's profit margin, right?
That’s also an option too. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
The timing!!! I just purchased the 28mm F1.4 from Thypoch. I hope you review that model as well
Since I dont have a Leica I am more interested in the bag on the left side. Great Video
More on that later 👀
Short version: 🇿🇦 In 2013 I bought my first Leica M6 with a 35mm Summicron IV. I shot two rolls with it and went back to the store swap the lens the 35mm Summicron ASPH.
Longer version: It was my first Leica and rangefinder for that matter. The images I got on those first two rolls were not sharp and I even loaded the film incorrectly on the first one so only half of each frame was exposed. So I went back to the store to get the ASPH. Obviously it was not the lens but my inexperience. But I’ve been more than happy with the ASPH for 11 years now.
So yes, I agree with your point of getting into the M system with something a bit more inexpensive than Leica glass to first see if the method of shooting suites you or not.
Great to hear you getting so much mileage outta that lens. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
As a long retired old guy from Seattle, WA I for the life of me I can't remember my first Leica lens. I think it may have been a 50mm.Summicron. It got traded in when I got my M10R. My favorite lens on that camera is the 35mm Voightlander f2.5 color skopar. For the most part I don't care about bokeh and all the related stuff. I also have a Voigtlander 21mm f3.5 which is a really fun lens to play with. I'm not sure if I raided my savings to purchase the premium Leica M glass I would appreciate in the same way you do.
That 21 is a special one. Thanks for sharing ✌🏾
My first M lens was a Voigtlander Ultron 35mm 1.7. Was a Fuji shooter at the time and didn't like their 35mm options back then (all focus by wire) and wanted something with 10 blades to match a lens I shot with on my Sony for video work. Eventually grabbed an M film body and went deep into the rabbit hole and 6-7 different 35's later I am now on the newest 35 Summilux (2022) and finally feel happy with the feel, weight, image quality, etc. that I was lacking in all those others. Very interested in grabbing the Thypoch 28 as another option as I only have the 35 in the kit right now, just hoping they swap it out to this new design soon without that cursed infinity lock.
Nice!
As a photography enthusiast with a fulfilling career in a different field, I have no desire to buy a summilux lens because I’m quite happy with “entry-level” lenses offered by Thypoch, Voigtlander, or Zeiss. I only have 3 lenses for my M3 and MP-240. One is a canon ltm, the second is a vintage Summicron (collapsible), and the third is a Voigtlander lens. Will I ever get a Thypoch? Possibly. Will I ever get a Summilux? Unlikely given that I’m not a pro seeking that level of nuanced performance. Great overview!
Well said. It’s great to have this much choice too. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
First I see you are at Kevin’s place haha, man that collection of bags and cameras is not hard to miss. Second great video, I started out with an used M240 and a new 50 Summicron; that’s all I had for years
Haha, thanks for watching brother. And such a great kit to start.
Very interesting to hear your thoughts on this man! I think particularly the 28 version of this lens is such a good value proposition when compared to the 28 summilux. My first M lens was the 50 submicron v4 and still loving it, though sometimes I'm tempted by that new 50 summilux with the close focus
Thypoch is delivering some insane value. Especially for those that wanna experiment before committing. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
🇺🇸 first Leica lens was my beloved 50mm Summicron V3. Still my favorite 50mm to use.
That V3 is special. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
These lenses seem cool, but to start off I think Voigtländer offers better options.
🇯🇵 My first was a Leica M-E and a 35mm cron ASPH. Fast forward 10 years, and all my lenses are from the 1960s, which to me was Leica’s best years, with very unique glass. ASPH is sharp and it pops, so I understand it’s required for professional work, but to me Leica vintage glass offers something truly unique that can’t be found in the latest ASPH lenses, so I’d recommend everyone who has a Leica to try the first or 2nd generation Summicron/Summilux across any focal length.
Thanks for watching ✌🏾 there’s a video I have next week that I think you’ll enjoy.
All the reviews I’ve seen of the Simera lenses rave about them, and i have the 28mm for my Leica SL and SL2. I love it, but if i spend $7k on a leica lens of course i would insist its better😅
Different strokes I guess 🤷🏾♂️
Did you ever shot with a Leica Lens which was made after 1980? It strikes you as soon you see the pictures in your RAW converter. There is not much to do in post when shot with a Leica lens….
I was lucky enough to afford a 35mm summicron ASPH for my first Leica lens. I ended up selling and getting two Voigtlanders, 28 f2 Ultron and 50mm APO, for more versatility. Voigtlander are awesome lenses but it's really hard to beat the Leica glass when it comes to feel, size, and image quality. No third party I have tried is able to balance all those elements as well as Leica. They are crazy expensive, but they do offer something unique that you cannot find in other glass. Saving up now for a 35 FLE :)
Nice! And yea, that FLE is special.
Started with a 50 Summicron (sold), then 28 Elmarit..(owned twice but sold), 35 Summilux FLE (sold...ugh ). Selling the FLE was by far my biggest camera gear regret...it's the best lens I've ever used. When I owned it I wasn't "ready" for it yet (pricey lens, skill, comfort with focal length, etc...). Hoping to buy one again soon! So to your point...yes I own a lot of non Leica lenses, but when you are ready definitely save/invest in at least one.
Agreed. Thanks for sharing, Steve ✌🏾
🇸🇪 My first and only lens is the 35mm Summicron ASPH. I’m interested in getting a 50mm and it doesn’t have to be another Leica lens, because they are so expensive.
Nice! And thanks for watching ✌🏾
Jim Marshall on your left ?
Yep. Kevin’s got a pretty deep collection he rotates between.
@@GajanBalan one of my favorite special additions ever
🌎 First lens was the Thypoch 28. One of the last lenses I buy will probably be a Summilux 28 … because my wife will kill me. 🤣
Haha, good luck!
🇺🇸 I totally agree with this perspective and haven’t thought of it before like that because yeah everyone says “SUMMILUX NOT WORTH IT???” and it’s really annoying frankly 😂 seems like a great lens but my goal is still the silver chrome 50 Lux! My first M lens was the 90mm Elmarit-M (yes, still gotta make a video on it) and I actually got it before I owned an M camera. Used it on my X-Pro 3 then saved up for an M3 and loved using it on that until a few years later I could afford an M 240. One of my favorite lenses ever. So many aspects that are hard to describe but magical
Like I’ve shared in the past, I know a lotta people that’ll give up their lens for the Lux. I don’t know lotta people that’ll give up their Lux for something else, haha.
@@GajanBalan 💯 yeah no kidding hahaha
Started with a Voigtlander 40mm f1.4 as my first M mount lens before very quickly upgrading to a 50mm Summicron. Lots of great third-party glass, but Leica glass on a Leica body is special.
Well said, and thanks for sharing ✌🏾
First Leica M lens was a 50 summicron collapsible. I feel like we have something coming talking about that hmm 😁😁😁
Oh, we got a lot to discuss brother 🤌🏾
The only value I can see for putting cheap lenses on a premium camera is to test a focal length out before you commit $8k to it. I tried a few 50f1.2 lenses at the start of my journey and learned that I personally find the over bokeh look kind of tacky - and was often frustrated with things like eyelashes in focus iris out of focus, or nose/ear focus for example, as well as the close focus distance and general mid tele distance compared to a 35 or 28. Turns out 50f2.8 is about as shallow as I like to go for my tastes.
These lenses might also be great if you're somewhat planning on getting robbed, but then why bring the M body? I bring a cheaper point and shoot to those locations. 😂
The very first lens was the 50 rigid with my M3. Still have them both, Denver, Colorado
Solid kit.
DC here. I'm on the Hasselblad train though :)
Haha, nice!
🇨🇦 Only if we had an affordable M camera as well, until we can buy the real deal. Fake it till you make it
Voigtländer 50mm F2 APO Lanthar is the best.
Incredible lens
05:32 "This is not a competitor to the 50 summilux"
Both are 50 mm 1.4 close focus leica M mount lenses...
What's stupid about that argument/harmful to the imaging space?
Thypoch sent you a lens they were confident in and you didn't give them a fair shake.
You’ve interpreted that far more negatively than implied in the video.
@GajanBalan those are your words lol.
@@WILMORENO right, and you’ve taken them so personally that it seems like you’re offended for the brand. It’s all good brother. Choice is still a good thing.
@GajanBalan i didn't take anything personal. I own a 50 summilux and enjoy it.. You've taken my comments far more negatively than implied.
@@WILMORENO well, just a couple of dudes not taking anything personally, haha. Thanks for watching ✌🏾
ironically enough I'd get the leica glass and the nikon zf
Nice!
Older Leica glass is where it’s at. The new apo’s etc hold no appeal to me but the pre asph lenses are just right on M bodies. Favourite lenses being 50 Summicron V5, 35 SummicironV1 & V4 and the 35 Summilux pre asph
With post processing one can get the pre ASPH look. However, with the pre ASPH lens one cannot get get the ASPH look. The micro contrast and bokeh from the ASPH at 1.4 around the 9 feet mark is truly amazing specially indoors. It's at 1.4 the magic happens with the play of shadows and low light.
🇨🇦Thanks for your usual philosophical and personal journey observations. Great comment about the value proposition of a 3rd party lens as an on ramp to the Leica journey. Makes me feel more comfortable as I embark into the Leica universe. Thanks Gajan.
Absolutely, and thank you for the kind words. Enjoy the journey ✌🏾
wow what an snobbish opinion that just screams “insecurity” rather than just being an actual photographer (which you are, so I really can’t understand where this is coming from. kind of propagating the stigma of the know-it-all/wannabes image of a leica user don’t you think? calling 3rd party lenses entry (starting) point as though native leica lenses are the best and final goal; high price of leica don’t mean they are the best. bullish and real condescending with the “it’s ok to go for something less then build up slowly” 🙄
the only reason why leica lenses are “mysterious” and “all roads lead to leica” is the price tag and (and accessibility) not necessarily the quality of the image produce from the lens/camera body/amazing handling. leica don’t have a monopoly to best optical engineers/scientists so be careful of what you put out.
ps. this is coming from a leica shooter as well and I will be the first to call BS when I smell one 🤦♂️
I think you might be stretching the opinions I’m sharing here. Lenses like these *are* a great starting point. They’re also perfectly a great end point too, if that’s what one’s work dictates. And I do believe that M users should explore M lenses, be it new or old.
None of these are mutually exclusive. But I’m also not going to pretend that these affordable options suddenly eliminate the value found in premium M lenses from Leica, Zeiss, or others (it’s not always about best).
Instead of being judgmental, try being curious and let’s have a dialogue. We’ll probably agree on more things than not, and have a productive conversation.