How CG is breaking Free to Play, and how we are all complicit too!

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  • @rancer890Gaming
    @rancer890Gaming หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like this video and I really with the premise. I didn’t get the bundle out of principle because I don’t like it when companies create a problem and sell the solution. Mk3 currency is really useful for any relic 7 characters, and F2P players are often told to build the executor which have not one but two R8 requirements.
    I feel like the other comments are unjustified because the MK3 isn’t just for the end game players but also early and mid for things like electrium conductors and those R8 materials. I am complicit as well because I give CG money every month.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      MK3 is important for building R6 and above materials. It’s the only sustainable system that allows you to build higher relics and a fast pace. It’s a big deal for beginning to mid game players to lose access to it.

  • @user-uc4cs9hh3e
    @user-uc4cs9hh3e หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While I agree with the overall premise, not having beq or gungans was a farming choice. I didn't spend any money on gungans and have them all r5 (except for jar jar). CG was very generous with bonus drops and whatnot for the gungans.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s your GP? Also, you have JarJar? I’m not saying that there isn’t a way to have the four non-legendary Gungans free to play. You have to look at the entirety of the game, and not what your individual circumstances are.

  • @shieldflyer339
    @shieldflyer339 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is another thing that this raid has done after the LSB. They now are releasing relic materials packs that you can buy. This means that the people that did not buy the bundle but really want to get their rewards up will now spend even more to get the same level of power in the good teams for the raid.
    This is a good move for CG in a financial sense.
    I would say that this does not push out FTP completely but does make it "weaker" in a way. I have been able to get the jedi raid team up and ready for the raid FTP fairly easily. will I be hitting for several million points? no but I can meaningfully support the guild.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have been trying to get the average player to spend with some more “budget friendly” packs.

  • @gls888
    @gls888 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think thr speeder raid is basically going to become the starter/f2p guild raid. You'll be happy with that until you've developed enough of a roster to participate in the newest raid.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does seem that way!

    • @user-uc4cs9hh3e
      @user-uc4cs9hh3e หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainAmazing_swgoh I agree. Those players wont ever be able to catch up without the MK3.

  • @Nydodith
    @Nydodith หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't lie, as a new player hopping into the game, I am terrified of the apparent requirement to spend money on the game, which I have not seen in many other games I have played. It doesn't help that the vast majority of the player-base feels like it only consists of veterans who all seem fine with this level of spending and even encourage it. I dunno if any other new players feel this way as well...

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn’t spend initially, just to get the hyperdrive bundle. I do believe in supporting games that you play. And, purchased it for that reason. I will say this. I’ve purchased AAA games for $60-70, and never touch them. Or, played them for one hour. This game I’ve consistently played for years, and supporting the game with a purchase on occasion helps keep the game healthy and continues its longevity. If you don’t want to spend you don’t have to. Everything in the game is accessible free to play.

  • @JestersTreasures
    @JestersTreasures หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the more insightful swgoh videos in a while. Very good points

  • @dwbryant13
    @dwbryant13 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m 7.5 mil and I will unlock my first conq character this PG. will have Reva in a month, and then start unlocking cat maul etc. So I’m looking at so many prioritized characters all at the same time and even though I should be excited it feels bad having 0 omi 0 zeta 0 omega mats, running out of mods, having to relic maul and sideous etc.

    • @rain_uc
      @rain_uc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm a couple months ahead - in the next month I'm gonna get almost every PG character (except CAT and Ben who I rushed), Bane and I think Luthen... and I just can't do anything with them - certainly not all at once.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had a similar situation. That’s why I have so many conquest characters at 7 stars gear 1. You just have to prioritize your farms.

  • @FoglieDoglie
    @FoglieDoglie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These concerns are good perspectives and for those who are not currently having self awareness in the game, hope this can be a reminder. Always pros and cons to f2p. Always try to work towards compromises and communicate to achive a fun guild community with a win-win approach.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heya Foglie, thanks for your viewpoint on this subject!

  • @jdawgg904
    @jdawgg904 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All I can think of is the James Franco meme... "First time?" If you think this raid is bad, Endor raid was an exception to how all previous raids were launched. Krayt required heavy investment into several teams and an omicron on bousch. Challenge Pit Rancor required everyone to post their scores at the exact same time to progress through each phase, which was literally impossible for countless guilds given the differences in time zones. HSTR gated the best teams behind steep paywalls and took a herculean effort from non-whale guilds to beat. All 3 of these raids caused huge waves in guild hopping.
    While I don't agree with CG's method of blindsiding smaller guilds by having them miss a week's worth of raid rewards because they couldn't post good enough scores, I do not think this raid is killing F2P. It's simply adding an immediate task players need to focus on, as the raid remains a top 3 priority for the majority of guilds. And if your guild can't do Naboo, it needs to go back to Endor until it's ready. Those rewards are still fantastic.

  • @robomelon314
    @robomelon314 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Our guild had about 20 ppl buy the bundle, so we're barely holding on to the 3rd crate.
    Our thought process is that we're going to rely on the spenders to keep us in the game for the short term, but we *are* asking everyone to farm up to certain thresholds as soon as they can.
    Right now we said a month to get to 1m, and we're going to re-evaluate pushing further once we see how easy/hard it was to get to that point. We'd like to hit 90m, but that's 1.8/person, so we'll have to see.

    • @robomelon314
      @robomelon314 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd like to think this is about as fair as we can be for a f2p and p2p mixed guild. f2p means you have to make sacrifices, but I don't think we're being unreasonable to give about 1.5 raids per character.

    • @rain_uc
      @rain_uc หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel this. I did whale on Gungans and Amidala - I'm outscoring everyone but I am ignoring the other advice that I should move into a bigger guild cause I'm able to help some nice people have more time to get their rosters up.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it’s important to set participation thresholds for every member with realistic timelines. My guilds is only asking for 2.6 million participation which is very realistic.

  • @frigidofdoom7191
    @frigidofdoom7191 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have all the separatist droids at least R5 with all zetas (except magna cuz why) I even farmed up STAP as soon as he was farmable and he's a hero unit. I don't have the sith geared though because I haven't gone for SEE yet so I only managed about 500K points.
    My guild tried this raid once, we didn't even hit the first crate. We're gonna go back to endor because it would just be way too much of an investment from way too many people to do well in this raid. And even if we did go for it by the time we've geared enough to get a good crate the next raid will only be a few months away and then we'll all stare at our R7 Luminaras and cry.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s rough, missing out on Mk3 for this long would be unfortunate. Maybe you should approach your guild about everyone farming one or two budget teams so you guys get access. Especially the Quadme team as Padme Obi-wan and Master Quigon are needed at high relics for their assault battle.

    • @frigidofdoom7191
      @frigidofdoom7191 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I honestly just need to get a new guild at this point. I wanted a casual guild but I think this one is a bit too casual, only about 30 members are active. I just don't wanna join a guild that's gonna ping me all the time and get pissy if I miss a TB/TW phase.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frigidofdoom7191 you’ll be hard pressed to find a guild that would be ok with missing a TB phase, or a TW attack/defense if you joined. There are plenty of guilds out there, but most expect you to at least deploy in TB. And, participate in TW if you join.

    • @frigidofdoom7191
      @frigidofdoom7191 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainAmazing_swgoh being in a guild that constantly pinged me and would write me up if I got less than 600 tickets is what made me quit the game for several years before coming back recently.
      I only miss a phase like once or twice a month at most, but to many guilds that's unacceptable and I hate that feeling you get when you're at the end of the day and realize you forgot that there was a guild event going on and you're afraid you're gonna get kicked.
      I'm content in a small guild, but not getting Mk3 raid tokens at all is really painful.

  • @number3729
    @number3729 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice video. Spenders are important for the longevity of the game, however if the FTP gets squeezed out of this game, the small spender will ve next in line as CG will take every opportunity to devise a new ecosystem to force players to spend more and more.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think CG is moving towards getting the average player to spend. But, forcing players to spend or not get rewards isn’t a good pathway for that.

  • @base797
    @base797 หลายเดือนก่อน

    insightful. I feel bad for mid level players, and even more for beginners

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Base, it is unfortunate for new to even late game players that weren’t prepared.

  • @bombain
    @bombain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont have that bundle to buy...

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not in the store currently. You sadly missed the window to purchase it.

  • @jayplayz7937
    @jayplayz7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think CG needs to nerf the raid if difficulty 1 requires 5 star characters as a minimum you shouldn’t be forced to fight Relic droids. The Relic tiers seem and feel fine as usually you have the omegas/zetas needed if you upgrade those toons outside of LSBs of course. But the gear 12 and 5 star need the nerf this is a featured raid that they want everyone to participate in but some guilds are going back to Endor because it’s easier and the rewards for box 3-4 is better than the first box of the new raid and requires less effort. Guaranteed a good chest in Endor while having to pick at straws and still might not get that first chest on Naboo. With MK3 tokens taken out of Endor those without high relics are screwed out of the higher relic mats and or extra zeta mats.
    I think this whole thing is another case of “CG test your game!!!”

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you, the difficulty on the first tiers are way overturned.

  • @teengrogu5177
    @teengrogu5177 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They helped early game f2p so much with acceleration to level 85. I disagree with your take on the new raid. I don't need mk3 so bad the few relic 8 and and relic 9 we need I can save crystals for now

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What part do you disagree with? I love lightspeed bundles and have purchased everyone that has been available. But, this raid is not free to play friendly.

    • @teengrogu5177
      @teengrogu5177 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@CaptainAmazing_swgohI don’t think this raid needs to f2p ready yet. I think Endor was a real treat and not what we should except. Many small guilds are still doing HSTR and I’m happy doing Endor for now with my smaller account. I don’t think we will ever do Naboo. Mk3 is a luxury, I’m okay without. however if you need relic 6+ then you will need MK3 asap. I’m okay without in my small account that’s all. I think CG is trying really hard to get new players.

  • @MurricaneGaming
    @MurricaneGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you think that some players or guilds should not have moved into Naboo? Just because it’s a new raid, it might not be best for ALL guilds to move into it. Maybe they should stay in SBR until they have built teams up to be able to score in Naboo. It seems similar to how there are some guilds still doing LS or DS Geo or why CG offers Easy, Normal, and Hard Conquest. It’s not like they shut off SBR or even Krayt. Are the rewards not as good? Yes, there is no MK3 in SBR anymore, so that stinks, but should a 1 mil GP player be trying to shoehorn into end game content when their account isn’t at that progression level yet?
    Maybe it’s the amount of content that creators pump out that is mid/end game content that causes people to think they should be doing those events, even if their roster doesn’t equate to them being ready for it.
    (Meant for discussion, not that it should be black and white.)

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      This raid is not friendly for new-mid game guilds. Even late game guilds if they didn’t purchase any lightspeee bundles could possibly not have the rosters for this raid.

    • @MurricaneGaming
      @MurricaneGaming หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainAmazing_swgoh very much agree. From recruiting, I feel like I see a lot of people that are in the early/mid game that think they are in the end game and that they should be doing RotE with guilds with high stars and Naboo, when really, they haven’t built out the core of their roster.

  • @michaelallen9977
    @michaelallen9977 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I disagree that if you didn’t whale your screwed. I’m a 8 million GP account I have gungans(no jar jar) but I still maxed the tier 1st attempt and no remoding. And I have qadma and POW r5 and waiting for MQJ. All of this I spent no money. I also didn’t buy any of the LSBs. Tbh they gave us hints and people ignored them. I saw the hints and went for the new characters as soon as they were farmable. Yes more time would have been nice but we now know this raid structure is staying so next raid will be the same. See the hints and start farming.

    • @michaelallen9977
      @michaelallen9977 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do however hate the restrictions for the sake of money

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      What raid participation are you getting? You have two incomplete teams and that’s going straight for them. Jarjar still isn’t accessible except for those who whaled out on him and Master Quigon is still unavailable for farming. Also, not everyone has the bandwidth to stop what they are doing immediately to start farming the new thing or unlock conquest characters. While you may have a level of participation that is comfortable for your guild by stopping your farms, this isnt a common occurrence. Thanks for your opinion!

  • @auzor5900
    @auzor5900 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Jedi LSB was garbage.
    The last round of LSB was also way worse value than before (generally, yeahyeah 7 star negotiator).
    So I suspect I won't be spending anymore on SWGOH, at all.
    22.5 million: if every player gets 300k, you're at 15 million.
    If half the players get another 300k (Luminara & B2 team to 300k points), you're at 22.5 points.
    Doesn't work due to how harsh the lower tiers are, so you need to be above this, e.g. G12, 450k points level, to achieve 300k points,...
    But you don't *need* the entire guild to be filled with relics for the first two boxes either.
    And even 3rd box could be possible, especially if a couple of 'pullers' remain guild members with Gungans at R5 etc.
    HOWEVER: if going the above route, every player that does not build a single team, hurts.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most guilds that don’t have higher relic teams are going back to the speeder bike raid at least until they are ready. This raid was not designed with the early-mid game players in mind.

    • @auzor5900
      @auzor5900 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainAmazing_swgoh I am in precisely that case. The jedi LSB was still trash imo.
      'ready' is a relative term, and does not need relic teams either imo, certainly not for everyone.

  • @Iron_Sheep
    @Iron_Sheep หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Disagree with being complicit. Even buying the last 2 LSBs did not help except to actually score something. People need to chill. CG only gave us 3 weeks to get our rosters ready. Even now we can't farm 3 of the characters required, 1 of them is only via crystals. We had no clue that non relic characters would fail to score before the raid. If your guild is forcing you to farm or buy stuff that you don't want to then leave them as they aren't a good guild. (However, you still need to farm and do things that help the guild as you have to give back to the guild.) In 7, 8, 9 and so months there will be a new top raid anyhow, maybe Ashoka related. It's a game and you should be having fun so everyone should chill.

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You disagree that you are complicit? Or, that the player base pressures players to spend? I do agree that players should "chill" but, that's honestly the purpose of this video. For us to gain some empathy of how this raid was released, and to give players time to farm the new raid teams.

  • @jesusdominguezd.2928
    @jesusdominguezd.2928 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remember the initial reward distribution for krayt dragon, no mark 3 for humble guilds and trying to kick mid or low level accounts from bigger guilds. CG is composed of crooks. And what about the unkillable grievous? No fixing because it would actually help players. Thieving mother frakkers

  • @jayplayz7937
    @jayplayz7937 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    CG you go right ahead and break that ftp system, I’ll be as complicit as can be as long as they keep providing me with relic characters. [(Insert) Salute] I give CG money so they can keep my favorite game in the stores for years to come

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do spend in this game as well because I enjoy it. I’m not a big fan of this raid cycle where the only way to have any participation is to spend money though. There should be a pathway for smart gameplay, but enough content to keep players spending.

  • @alexwilson2503
    @alexwilson2503 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Free to play? Only a sith deals in absolutes 😂

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fear is the path to the dark side. Don't be scared to whale out!

  • @PaKaa1
    @PaKaa1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why you look so goofy on your thumbnails

    • @CaptainAmazing_swgoh
      @CaptainAmazing_swgoh  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a weird looking guy, sometimes you have to embrace your inner and outter ugly. Confidence is key!