People fight for power. Sometimes, it's an obvious power grab e.g. English wars of the Roses. Sometimes, ideology is given as a reason/veneer e.g English civil wars between parlimentarians and royalists.
To paraphrase a great philosopher who made the following observation " that he who fights monsters, should take care in fighting them, that he does not become a monster".
They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers; but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go. Tom Barry..
Yeah i read this , but it seems it was the orther way round , and mr tom barry fits the picture an ex british soldier who tried to hoist the union flag on top of a building in bandon.before he became a volunteer, the war of independence was basically a civil backed up on one side by government of the day.
@Stiofán Ó Firghil who knows ,Thats probably better left to psychologist. as the only person s who went into any mire was Dan breen and his eight men who murdered 2 irish policemen without giving the a chance to surrender
@@rorykinsella8826 Seriously?! Brits & Free Staters were all angels you'll be telling me next.. Since you seemed to know Barry so well surprises me you don't know?!
Yea, they really amped up the ads in the last few months. Premium not too bad if you can share a family plan with a few others.. Also supports the channels better than even if you watched every ad.
Both sides committed atrocities, as is true in any war, any struggle, which is heartbreaking. Even more so that two denominations progressing Christ have division, distrust etc.. I pray great healing and unity comes to Ireland very soon.
My father was from Clonmel and he would have loved learning about this. His dad was part of the IRA between 1922-1924. I do t know if he knew of these events (he fought his battles in the south)💚
@@01hZ 🤣🤣🤣 you just seem to have such a big mouth, yet too scared to say your nationality. I will agree there are many Irish people who are racist, personally I’m just curious.
@@01hZ imagine a coward who won't mention his own nationality and accusing someone else of being a racist when he himself uses racial stereotypes against an entire nation... oh the irony.
Sure.. Sure it is . I could name off Hundreds of groups and personalities that make them look like saints . Study History and youll see . Start with the ancient World and go from there . The Romans, i would argue, were far more ruthless for over 1000 years . Even tried to quell Britannia , Hadrians wall ring a bell ? How bout what they did to Carthage ? Comparing a country trying to prevent War and uprising within Their Borders is NOT "evil" or "Supervillian" by any stretch . Humans do bad things to each other thats a given, but this isnt one of those times . it was a time when these things had to be dealt with .. ffs lad, these IRA fools were killing CHILDREN, Innocent ones at that . And you say the Empire was/is Evil lol Pol Pot may have a few words for you, Idi Amin too would like to chat about whats evil .
I once complained to a family friend that what I considered a potentially legitimate political organisation looked like it was degrading into a mafia. It was coolly received. I’m reminded of this by the sequence at 17:30 Those at the beginning are principled idealists but once the ball is in motion a different sort comes into the movement. I should add that this was not in Ireland but there are parallels.
These individual graves are insignificant in comparison to the mass unmarked graves of the Great Famine where the British starved to death 2 million Irish men, women, and children.
Ok before the Great Famine there were 8 million in Ireland. After the famine there were 4 million. It is estimated that 2 million died in the Great Famine and 2 million are unaccounted for.
@@Denis.Collinseh the so called Irish farmers and traders were yr British aristocrats. The Great Famine was a carefully orchestrated genocide planned in London. Snr Nassau a close advisor to the Brit cabinet stated that 1 million dead would not be enough. The Sunday Times in its editorial stated that they hoped that an Irish man on the river Shannon would be as common as an Indian on the banks of the Manhattan. U people are guilty as sin and yer attempt to wriggle out are like the Nazis denying the Holocaust
My family was in America during this time supporting the IRA silently with Financing If my parent and Grandparents Knew this They'd of done something quite different.
This video and others about Irish history gets me aching in my heart. I have never been to Ireland but it calls to me as if I need to go home. It must be genetic memory or something like it. I have no other explanation for this feeling of nostalgia. I wonder if there are other Irish descendants who experience this tug on the heart. My great great grandparents, Matthew "Mattie" and Catherine "Katie" (Timmins) Hanihan came to the US during the Irish potato famine. He arrived in 1848 and she followed in 1849). He was a blacksmith and found work with the railroad. They lived in Ohio, and around 1854, moved to Pennsylvania. He later died from consumption and she raised their five children alone in Leechburg, PA. I cannot find Matthew's grave in Pennsylvania or any record of where it may be. I had given up on finding Catherine's grave in St. Catherine's Catholic Cemetery near Leechburg, Allegheny Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, and was walking back to my car, when there it was in front of me; "Catherine T. Hanihan" 1823 - 1907". There is a four-leaf clover engraved by her name. It was a rather eerie moment as if she was saying "Here I am." I often think about who they left behind in Ireland and what became of them.
Your opening paragraph resonates with me, Mary. As far as I know there is no Irish blood in my history - I'm half Welsh (father) and half Staffordshire English (mother.) But I recently discovered that my mother's maiden name, Shelley, has Irish connections. Her ancestors, roundly Staffordshire people from Little Haywood and the surrounding area can be traced back to 1760. So was there an Irish connection back before that, say around 1680 or earlier? I'll never know, but Erin go Bragh!
I visited Ireland for the first time in 2018 aged 32 and of course was filming as we came in to land in Dublin. You can hear me say to my mom, "This feels like a homecoming." My grandmother was of 100% Irish descent and very proud to have come from refugees of the Hunger. (My great-times-three-grandmother was the sole survivor in her family; the rest perished and she made it to North America.) I was raised to know this and embrace that part of my heritage, which was of interest given the other three of my four grandparents all came from people here in the US since before it was even the US, still a British colony. So the grandmother whose family came from Ireland to flee the Hunger was the only "recent" movement of my ancestors and thus much easier to research. Anyway, it was a comment that wasn't something I thought of ahead of time, but coming to Irish soil felt like a "full circle" moment for sure! My ancestors escaped through no real choice or desire to leave Ireland and now here was their granddaughter coming back "home." So while of course I cannot speak for all Irish descendants, I do have the "tug on the heart" you mention. It was an overwhelming feeling when I first stepped off that plane and I felt more at home than anywhere else. I've been to England where my lineage largely comes from and it's not at all the same. Ireland is special! It's not just a "feeling," either, not a grabbing of heritage or culture, it's something I've spent years learning about and coming to understand as well as someone can understand a country they haven't grown up living in. The people, the history, the spirit, Ireland is a place unlike any other!
Was it not that all atrocities were put aside to enable the new State to move forward and not get involved in Court cases that would last forever and continue the hatred and division between the people
Very disappointed about no graves found. But interesting nonetheless. And even today that neighboring farmer wants to remain anonymous. But why? What has he to fear? A lot of these may have been personal revenge killings.
I went to the South, they said why did you come here, I said I cant come all this way and not see you. They said dont go to the North, they are all mad. I went to the North, why did you come they asked me, I said I cant come all this way and not see you. They said dont go to the South, they are all mad down there. Lovely people all of them. Religion is a Menace.
“We are made tough. We are made of steel. So I have no doubt the blood in my genes, the Irish blood in me has defined stood me. My family’s lineage, we are warriors”.
Ireland being pretty much Neutral, is a wonderful thing. When there is another terrible World War, I will be glad to know the Irish, if they fight, will be fighting with me as I would not want them fighting against me.
In the intro to this program and I quote “some of the victims we don’t know their names and we don’t know where they were buried “. after hearing that I have to wonder what’s the point of the program .
True and being an Irish documentary it sure makes the Irish their war of independence freedom look bad to say the least therefore what was the purpose of this documentary
The historian omits the fact that when the body of suspected informer Thomas Kirby was found in 1990 in Co.Tipperary there was a British military cap with the regimental badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment also in the grave. The Lincolnshire Regiment were deployed in Co.Tipperary during the conflict. The discovery of the body obviously made headlines in 1990. Check out the coverage in the papers at both local level in Co.Tipperary and national level and both confirm the badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment was on a British military cap in the grave. Leaving out facts gives a whole different angle to the narrative especially historians and academics with a political agenda.
I have still been fighting this war as a culture/media war, not a war with bullets like my ancestors did. I promote awareness of Irish civilization and try to get Irish people out from the shadow of the Anglo race. Anyone want to help, let me know.
Yes I know that one. I was learning it myself years ago. Click the K to get to my show and you hear me at least letting people know there is an Irish language.
Here is another version of Irish history from Irish Travellers' perspective, and it's a lot different from Settled State version of history. th-cam.com/video/DLStM39Qc1s/w-d-xo.html
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 So you are saying "Go back to where you come from". Pretty much the definition of a racist. They have lived for many generations, it IS their land and their choice of identity.
@@awedgewood So why did the British have all those army regiments taking food from a starving nation.. British government, & their Laissez-faire policies.. Those "Irish farmers", were British landlords.. All aimed at starving the Gaelic poor..
He finds the body's three different times at three different locations and puts them in the ground and dosen't tell the cops.... sounds like he's an accomplice at this point...lol
He could've been making it up or at the time he might have been afraid. Just reporting the presence of bodies might have been construed as cooperation with the RIC.
There was some British soldiers that were captured and executed by the IRA. After the conflict the British government coldly did not show much interest in finding their bodies to repatriate them. When some British soldiers were found by farmers in the years afterwards they were repatriated to the UK. Two soldiers from the East Lancashire Regiment were executed by the IRA in April 1921 near Killarney,Co.Kerry. Their bodies were found in 1927 and returned to the UK. A soldier from the Royal Scots(Lothian Regiment) was executed by the IRA in October 1920 in Co.Clare.His crude grave was marked and locals knew it's location for generations. His body was repatriated back to Scotland only a few years ago and given a Commonwealth War Graves Commission headstone. His family came to Co.Clare. The "Nationwide" programme on Irish TV (RTE) made a programme about this particular soldier. There was 3 bandboys from the Manchester Regiment that were captured and executed in June 1921. Their bodies were returned after one of the fathers of the boys who was Irish came from Manchester to Ireland to locate them. They were like the other aforementioned soldiers given military funerals. There is some British soldiers that went missing that I have identified that were actually genuine deserters that went missing but turn up later in the UK. Thank goodness for "Ancestry". Some executed Brtish soldiers are still not recovered. I have it on good authority that some missing Crown Forces are actually buried in what is now Cork airport and surrounding grounds. The body of a British soldier executed in June 1921 in Co.Sligo was found by a farmer in the 1960's and buried locally. The body of a buried man was found in Co.Tipperary 1990 and there was a cap badge from Lincolnshire Regiment in the grave. As one can imagine the discovery of these bodies made headlines in the local papers of the respective counties where the bodies were found.
That one skeleton and skull shows years of trauma and wounds over years of that poor individual life I feel so bad for him and I know how you feel with alot of damages done and bone damage in my lifetime also.🙏 May God and his son Jesus Christ Messiah accepts the outcast, persecuted for thy name sakes dear God and let those live the new life with you in your kingdom my God of my fathers amen. For sum of the human flocks of Earth shall be your people and blessed by your grace and goodness dear God.🙏
So you had cartel mob in Ireland killings of ones even innocent people and then British crown killing them off too at the same time IRA doing the same doesn't even give civilians populations any hope or anything to be trusted poor peoples I feel it and the disparity of no hope or helplessness towards anything. Only God to be trusted and help of those times for God very merciful and full of grace and love towards ones that are meek and trust in him above for this world lays in evil and darkness and more evils in the world than good God told me before times and not how he designed it but ways of cruelty and curruptors of people🙏☁️🦁🍷👑🗡🦅
In war people die my own grandfather as a five year old child in 1920 while running from the Black and Tans who were shooting up hogan place in Dublin slipped getting over a railing it impaled him the tans stopped and laughed at him while my great grandmother tried to get him down it happened outside there front door.my great grandfather was a Sargent major in the British army fought all over the world he went awol and joined the volunteers war is not black and white.
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I sold my house and invested it all with Jack Leonard .. I lost it all and now sleep on a park bench but Mr. Leonard assures me that I'll soon have a large mansion and drive a Ferrari . I hope so as it's Bloody cold in this park
The Roman Catholic priesthood comes out of this very badly. Priests attended the victims of at least three of the named killings mentioned here but there is no evidence offered of any attempt to intercede for their lives.
@@markaxworthy2508 You are the one that first brought up the subject of the priests moral failure by doing nothing to stop the murders they witnessed and so were complicit in them by not turning the murderers in. So take your own advice and stick to the subject yourself and don't be a judgmental hypocrite. JEEZ! And even my pedophilia comment was again made in response to your own criticism of the priests' failure in their moral obligation. I was actually 'supporting' your argument by pointing out that even in modern times and without the emotionally charged venue of violent revolution Catholic clergy have not been on the moral high ground. Just as demonstrated in this investigation, in the present they still fail miserably to set a moral standard of behavior and then hide behind their frocks, protected by an institution that "preaches" a higher purpose and morality. Again you are a hypocrite ... so you can just bite me! (Just like the priest did to me when I was an innocent catholic child) I also notice my comment got as many likes as yours, so others seem to think it was an appropriate response in the context of your own comment criticizing the priests' roll. Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does.
@@airplayn There is a clear difference between my comment and yours. Mine was directly related to the video above, its content and the killings of the early 1920s. If you can demonstrate that your comment on paedophilia has a clear connection with the video above, its content, or the killings of the early 1920s, please demonstrate it below. Well? Over to you.
I didn't even know much about this part of Ireland history and the struggles and deaths so many civilians and others not only a fight for independence but a civil war at the same time jeeze wizz. For I'm mixed mutt or proud American guy with sum Irish ancestry besides other countries but I miss old days of Ireland that's lost and gone where there was once ancient forest that's gone today such times when Julius caesar times and when Jesus lived upon the world I don't even know exactly but some history the monarch ordered ship buildings and for war from Britain days other say for human development and herdings and farmlands caused the lost of those special ancient mossy forests that once existed..🍷👑🗡🦅🦁🦝🐍🇺🇸
Major Geoffrey Compton Smith was a commander of the black and tans. A pretty brutal repressive part of the British army. This piece doesn't mention that. I am a great admirer of the British and their history, but there history in Ireland is not an admirable one. The famine was as much a man made catastrophe as well as a natural born one. That was a dark time that shouldn't be glossed over.
@@suzannehaigh4281 : A good many Irish were dependent on potatoes. The Welsh and Scots were not. Relief efforts from Britain were token at best repressive laws and restrictions by the British were shameful in Ireland
No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.
@Chad Romanowski No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.
In the first minute the narrator has to concede that in fact some of the people they captured and were “innocent” casualties were actually in fact spies for the British 🤷🏻♀️😵💫. So, you mix that in with the inevitably terrible consequence of innocent civilians suffering on both sides throughout any war that has ever been fought (and often for much less noble causes such as the freedom of the indigenous population which this inherently was a war over) and somehow try to make it into a “yea, but these guys were bad too” narrative that muddies the waters even from the very beginning? I would rather see an openly honest portrayal of the history without the need for such narrative bias and intermingling of the various different unique stories and accounts into one overly simplistic narrative, and make as a viewer my own judgment from there rather than it being “spoon fed” to me intentionally for a particular intended result on the part of the production and narrators, but that is my personal preference. As I am already aware that war is atrocious and there are hardly often any “clean hands” to come out of such pain and suffering that fighting entails and war creates, I hardly need someone else to try to tell me who “the good guys and the bad guys” supposedly really were, as if it’s that black and white or simplistic of a sweeping conclusion to make- especially in this conflict and with such a LONG historical nuanced past underlying it’s very rocky foundation from the start.
I’m trying to understand what happened to my comment. Is it because I’m a “Black” woman and I understood why the IRA did what they felt was necessary?? Wow
@@eoincaomhanach1983 I don’t know. I don’t recall saying much. I didn’t curse, or be rude, or vulgar with what I stated. So, I don’t have a clue why it was removed. Does every channel have a different set of rules??
@@jazzyboop2065 It does that, you need to log off, log in again and wait a day or so and then repost. It just does it at random to millions of people every day.
Let's not talk about the Thousands of Irish who were executed or disappeared of flimsy or non existent evidence. The Irish were at war , War is never black and white. How about some balance.
Definitely the historian here eunan 0 halpin shows no balance like he doesn't really his brave great uncle soldiers doesn't mention one Kevin Barry was only 18 when he was hanged a famous song about him sung by famous people like Lenard Cohen Paul robeson etc it was a war of independence and specifically a guerrilla war a spy informer could cause devastating damage to the Irish soldiers life and death decisions had to be quicky made in this bias view 0 halpin should of mentioned most were spies also showing British atrocities on civilians would of been just
@@seanohare5488O'Halpin is a relation of Kevin Barry. One of the 3 soldiers from the Duke of Wellington Regiment killed in the ambush on 22nd September 1920 in Dublin city which Kevin Barry took part in was only 15 and two weeks short of his 16th birthday. Patrick Deasy a 16 year old IRA Volunteer was KIA on 28th November 1920 during the Kilmichael Ambush,Co.Cork . On 31st May 1921 in Youghal,Co.Cork the IRA used an IED to ambush the band of the Hampshire Regiment and killed 7 soldiers of which 3 were teenagers ranging in ages of 14 to 16 and wounded 20. In June 3 bandboys of the Manchester Regiment were abducted and killed by the IRA. Young Irish teenagers were both killed and wounded by the Crown Forces during the conflict.
It's one thing to research ancient graves or very recent atrocities, but what is gained by making scurrilous accusations and reopening wounds time has mostly healed? I can understand why you were denied access to government records for this "research". Revolutions are messy, especially after a long, cruel and bitter struggle when emotions run high. The religious element in the Irish situation made it even more nasty. However, even the American revolution against English oppression no doubt had many "disappeared" from both sides, only modern records and relatively contemporary investigations make this type of accounting possible. The ultimate blame is on the English oppressors for these deaths, including the decimation of Irish populations due to the English overlords stealing Irish grain leading to the over dependence of mono-culture potato and the resulting famine. The Irish population has not recovered from that tragedy even to this day.
Look at the presenters face, hes got the brace and bits with the world. I assume he lost family members, that he knew or were killed before he was born. Doesnt matter when it comes to religious hatred. Hes got a lot of hate in him, the video is full of hate.
@@vatsal7640 wow, you don't read with very good comprehension and then make sweeping erroneous and very cynical assumptions on too little data. AND you obviously fell asleep during American history class. I wasn't talking about the way Irish were treated IN England. I was referring to the way the English treated the Irish in their own country when it was controlled by the English.
Guys your gonna hate me for this but I wish United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland still existed (be even better if it were United Republics instead eh?). Sorry mates but I understand why they rebeled and made independence after so much oppression then and still in NI. Have a go if you must but be gentle please...
Now bring on all the paddies giving out about how the British were all while speaking english, loves a British football club more than their own local club's, why do the irish accept so much British midea be it TV shows or news, the biggest issue iv noticed about most Irish people is they refuse to be Irish basically most Irish are British in all way's bar a passport
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The mark of a nation's maturity is the point where it has the courage to question its foundation myths.
The British are still lying about theirs
@@mijicmugendo All nations do it.
many of us have been around to 1,000's of years.
My great uncle was Michael Collins. He died and some of the family resides in Wales til this day thanks to our nanna Sarah Collins
You are the descendant of one of irelands greatest men
@@theselftaughtspeculator6553, That is not a statement which stands up to more than a perfunctory examination.
Every fight for independence is an ugly dirty business. Ours was no exception
Exactly
British are such a propoganda Spreader they are portraying Irish independence some bloody movement .
It's ok. It's over. You don't need to go on with the excuses for killing innocents.
People fight for power. Sometimes, it's an obvious power grab e.g. English wars of the Roses. Sometimes, ideology is given as a reason/veneer e.g English civil wars between parlimentarians and royalists.
Our own war for Independence in the States saw some of this. In civil conflicts, private grudges are often exercised.
To paraphrase a great philosopher who made the following observation " that he who fights monsters, should take care in fighting them, that he does not become a monster".
They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers; but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go. Tom Barry..
Yeah i read this , but it seems it was the orther way round , and mr tom barry fits the picture an ex british soldier who tried to hoist the union flag
on top of a building in bandon.before he became a volunteer, the war of independence was basically a civil backed up on one side by government of the day.
@@rorykinsella8826 So, what changed his view of things Rory??
@Stiofán Ó Firghil who knows ,Thats probably better left to psychologist. as the only person s who went into any mire was Dan breen and his eight men who murdered 2 irish policemen without giving the a chance to surrender
@@rorykinsella8826 Seriously?! Brits & Free Staters were all angels you'll be telling me next.. Since you seemed to know Barry so well surprises me you don't know?!
If they took the time to post this many ads during the actual revolution it would still be going on today.
Yea, they really amped up the ads in the last few months.
Premium not too bad if you can share a family plan with a few others.. Also supports the channels better than even if you watched every ad.
Use a adblocker lol
The revolution IS still ongoing today.
@@OldDunollieman xxioooo😅
It's still going actually
A guy from Morocco loves the great nation of Ireland.
Ireland? Great nation ? Bwahahahahahaha.
@Post-Apoc Space Dolphin Posadist from Uranus ....
Irish guy here and I love the nation of Morocco, great World Cup. Keep Morocco Moroccan I say..
Me too
Both sides committed atrocities, as is true in any war, any struggle, which is heartbreaking. Even more so that two denominations progressing Christ have division, distrust etc.. I pray great healing and unity comes to Ireland very soon.
Outstanding. I look forward to Part 2.
Me too
My father was from Clonmel and he would have loved learning about this. His dad was part of the IRA between 1922-1924. I do t know if he knew of these events (he fought his battles in the south)💚
The Tipp men always stood there ground ignore the brit trolls and the west brit trolls making comments here.
You should be proud
These comments underline how revolutionary groups have negative elements.
Priceless that I know some of these people!!
Always excited to learn new things 🔥
Such a big piece of history of Ireland 🇮🇪😢🔥
Imagine all these people dieing just for a country that is known for alcohol sudocream farming and racism
@@01hZ and what country would you be from?
@@eoincaomhanach1983 why you wanna be racist? Typical Irish
@@01hZ 🤣🤣🤣 you just seem to have such a big mouth, yet too scared to say your nationality. I will agree there are many Irish people who are racist, personally I’m just curious.
@@01hZ imagine a coward who won't mention his own nationality and accusing someone else of being a racist when he himself uses racial stereotypes against an entire nation... oh the irony.
Heartbreaking...the disappeared 😕 😪
Rest in peace 🕊️🕊️ everyone 🙏🙏
Lol I thought he said IRS, 22:22
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To all the faithfully departed......
Amen
Britain really was one of the most evil supervillains that everyone forgot about.
Sure.. Sure it is . I could name off Hundreds of groups and personalities that make them look like saints . Study History and youll see . Start with the ancient World and go from there . The Romans, i would argue, were far more ruthless for over 1000 years . Even tried to quell Britannia , Hadrians wall ring a bell ? How bout what they did to Carthage ? Comparing a country trying to prevent War and uprising within Their Borders is NOT "evil" or "Supervillian" by any stretch . Humans do bad things to each other thats a given, but this isnt one of those times . it was a time when these things had to be dealt with .. ffs lad, these IRA fools were killing CHILDREN, Innocent ones at that . And you say the Empire was/is Evil lol Pol Pot may have a few words for you, Idi Amin too would like to chat about whats evil .
We did not forget
@@goose8244 Gone, but not forgotten
What do you mean was, they still are.
Was ? Britain is a supervillain.
So remarkable indeed. 08:22am 29/12/‘22 , Seamus from Ireland
I once complained to a family friend that what I considered a potentially legitimate political organisation looked like it was degrading into a mafia. It was coolly received.
I’m reminded of this by the sequence at 17:30
Those at the beginning are principled idealists but once the ball is in motion a different sort comes into the movement.
I should add that this was not in Ireland but there are parallels.
These individual graves are insignificant in comparison to the mass unmarked graves of the Great Famine where the British starved to death 2 million Irish men, women, and children.
Definitely
Ok before the Great Famine there were 8 million in Ireland. After the famine there were 4 million. It is estimated that 2 million died in the Great Famine and 2 million are unaccounted for.
@@Denis.Collinseh the so called Irish farmers and traders were yr British aristocrats. The Great Famine was a carefully orchestrated genocide planned in London. Snr Nassau a close advisor to the Brit cabinet stated that 1 million dead would not be enough. The Sunday Times in its editorial stated that they hoped that an Irish man on the river Shannon would be as common as an Indian on the banks of the Manhattan. U people are guilty as sin and yer attempt to wriggle out are like the Nazis denying the Holocaust
My family was in America during this time supporting the IRA silently with Financing If my parent and Grandparents Knew this They'd of done something quite different.
This video and others about Irish history gets me aching in my heart.
I have never been to Ireland but it calls to me as if I need to go home. It must be genetic memory or something like it. I have no other explanation for this feeling of nostalgia. I wonder if there are other Irish descendants who experience this tug on the heart.
My great great grandparents, Matthew "Mattie" and Catherine "Katie" (Timmins) Hanihan came to the US during the Irish potato famine. He arrived in 1848 and she followed in 1849).
He was a blacksmith and found work with the railroad. They lived in Ohio, and around 1854, moved to Pennsylvania. He later died from consumption and she raised their five children alone in Leechburg, PA. I cannot find Matthew's grave in Pennsylvania or any record of where it may be. I had given up on finding Catherine's grave in St. Catherine's Catholic Cemetery near Leechburg, Allegheny Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, and was walking back to my car, when there it was in front of me; "Catherine T. Hanihan" 1823 - 1907". There is a four-leaf clover engraved by her name. It was a rather eerie moment as if she was saying "Here I am."
I often think about who they left behind in Ireland and what became of them.
Your opening paragraph resonates with me, Mary. As far as I know there is no Irish blood in my history - I'm half Welsh (father) and half Staffordshire English (mother.) But I recently discovered that my mother's maiden name, Shelley, has Irish connections. Her ancestors, roundly Staffordshire people from Little Haywood and the surrounding area can be traced back to 1760. So was there an Irish connection back before that, say around 1680 or earlier? I'll never know, but Erin go Bragh!
I visited Ireland for the first time in 2018 aged 32 and of course was filming as we came in to land in Dublin. You can hear me say to my mom, "This feels like a homecoming." My grandmother was of 100% Irish descent and very proud to have come from refugees of the Hunger. (My great-times-three-grandmother was the sole survivor in her family; the rest perished and she made it to North America.) I was raised to know this and embrace that part of my heritage, which was of interest given the other three of my four grandparents all came from people here in the US since before it was even the US, still a British colony. So the grandmother whose family came from Ireland to flee the Hunger was the only "recent" movement of my ancestors and thus much easier to research. Anyway, it was a comment that wasn't something I thought of ahead of time, but coming to Irish soil felt like a "full circle" moment for sure! My ancestors escaped through no real choice or desire to leave Ireland and now here was their granddaughter coming back "home."
So while of course I cannot speak for all Irish descendants, I do have the "tug on the heart" you mention. It was an overwhelming feeling when I first stepped off that plane and I felt more at home than anywhere else. I've been to England where my lineage largely comes from and it's not at all the same. Ireland is special! It's not just a "feeling," either, not a grabbing of heritage or culture, it's something I've spent years learning about and coming to understand as well as someone can understand a country they haven't grown up living in. The people, the history, the spirit, Ireland is a place unlike any other!
Time Team would have found 20 bodies in 3 days.
Slap bang! 😂
And a murder weapon . And an empty beer can .
They'd have also found a Catherdral and a Castle or said "That's what it could be"
Interesting documentary
Was it not that all atrocities were put aside to enable the new State to move forward and not get involved in Court cases that would last forever and continue the hatred and division between the people
The Good Friday Agreement
I knew rom the start that the search on the farm would turn out to be another "Al Capone's safe"
Very disappointed about no graves found. But interesting nonetheless. And even today that neighboring farmer wants to remain anonymous. But why? What has he to fear?
A lot of these may have been personal revenge killings.
Funny how its spoken about when thousands of Irish people in the north were deserted by some in the south.
Old sins cast Long shadows.........
I went to the South, they said why did you come here, I said I cant come all this way and not see you. They said dont go to the North, they are all mad.
I went to the North, why did you come they asked me, I said I cant come all this way and not see you.
They said dont go to the South, they are all mad down there.
Lovely people all of them.
Religion is a Menace.
Racism is too
Very well said
Part 2 will be very Interesting..
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“We are made tough. We are made of steel. So I have no doubt the blood in my genes, the Irish blood in me has defined stood me. My family’s lineage, we are warriors”.
Careful, you very well could be in danger of being called racist talking like that..
Just kidding! 😁
Ireland being pretty much Neutral, is a wonderful thing.
When there is another terrible World War, I will be glad to know the Irish, if they fight, will be fighting with me as I would not want them fighting against me.
@@1mmickk I hear ya pal I agree
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In the intro to this program and I quote “some of the victims we don’t know their names and we don’t know where they were buried “. after hearing that I have to wonder what’s the point of the program .
True and being an Irish documentary it sure makes the Irish their war of independence freedom look bad to say the least therefore what was the purpose of this documentary
The historian omits the fact that when the body of suspected informer Thomas Kirby was found in 1990 in Co.Tipperary there was a British military cap with the regimental badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment also in the grave. The Lincolnshire Regiment were deployed in Co.Tipperary during the conflict. The discovery of the body obviously made headlines in 1990. Check out the coverage in the papers at both local level in Co.Tipperary and national level and both confirm the badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment was on a British military cap in the grave. Leaving out facts gives a whole different angle to the narrative especially historians and academics with a political agenda.
I have still been fighting this war as a culture/media war, not a war with bullets like my ancestors did. I promote awareness of Irish civilization and try to get Irish people out from the shadow of the Anglo race. Anyone want to help, let me know.
One of the best ways is to learn & promote the Irish language, the very best of luck in your endeavours mó chara.. 🇮🇪
Yes I know that one. I was learning it myself years ago. Click the K to get to my show and you hear me at least letting people know there is an Irish language.
Now Ireland is being devoured by the shadow of globohomo & the NGO sector IMO
@@KingDavidProject Did that K.D.P, subbed too.. 👍
Probably not the best video to add the comment to.
Here is another version of Irish history from Irish Travellers' perspective, and it's a lot different from Settled State version of history. th-cam.com/video/DLStM39Qc1s/w-d-xo.html
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give Ireland back to the Irish
Already done mate
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 because it has a British majority
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 they are British people now who want in the most part, to be part of the UK.
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 like I said, already done
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 So you are saying "Go back to where you come from". Pretty much the definition of a racist. They have lived for many generations, it IS their land and their choice of identity.
23:20 wouldn't make me lose sleep
Got the same last name Barry
Will historyhits post part 2? Would be really great if they did, but I suppose they were advertising for a reason.
I cried when I heard about 'Potato Famine'. So brutal.
this video is very interesting: "The Great Irish Famine - documentary (1996)". Find on youtube
It was a genocide, not a famine when boat's full of food we're leaving Ireland at British gun point..
@@stiofanofirghil1916 You mean food was being sold by Irish farmers to the highest bidder. Who was the "genocide" aimed at?
@@awedgewood So why did the British have all those army regiments taking food from a starving nation.. British government, & their Laissez-faire
policies.. Those "Irish farmers", were British landlords.. All aimed at starving the Gaelic poor..
@@stiofanofirghil1916 Of course they were British. The irish were British at that point. The Irish farmers weren't a charity.
You people would call slave rebellions atrocities
He finds the body's three different times at three different locations and puts them in the ground and dosen't tell the cops.... sounds like he's an accomplice at this point...lol
Nobody ever proved he found corpses he might have been just another BS'er.
He could've been making it up or at the time he might have been afraid. Just reporting the presence of bodies might have been construed as cooperation with the RIC.
True... Screwed if you do. Screwed if you don't.
I agree
There was some British soldiers that were captured and executed by the IRA. After the conflict the British government coldly did not show much interest in finding their bodies to repatriate them. When some British soldiers were found by farmers in the years afterwards they were repatriated to the UK. Two soldiers from the East Lancashire Regiment were executed by the IRA in April 1921 near Killarney,Co.Kerry. Their bodies were found in 1927 and returned to the UK. A soldier from the Royal Scots(Lothian Regiment) was executed by the IRA in October 1920 in Co.Clare.His crude grave was marked and locals knew it's location for generations. His body was repatriated back to Scotland only a few years ago and given a Commonwealth War Graves Commission headstone. His family came to Co.Clare. The "Nationwide" programme on Irish TV (RTE) made a programme about this particular soldier. There was 3 bandboys from the Manchester Regiment that were captured and executed in June 1921. Their bodies were returned after one of the fathers of the boys who was Irish came from Manchester to Ireland to locate them. They were like the other aforementioned soldiers given military funerals. There is some British soldiers that went missing that I have identified that were actually genuine deserters that went missing but turn up later in the UK. Thank goodness for "Ancestry". Some executed Brtish soldiers are still not recovered. I have it on good authority that some missing Crown Forces are actually buried in what is now Cork airport and surrounding grounds. The body of a British soldier executed in June 1921 in Co.Sligo was found by a farmer in the 1960's and buried locally. The body of a buried man was found in Co.Tipperary 1990 and there was a cap badge from Lincolnshire Regiment in the grave. As one can imagine the discovery of these bodies made headlines in the local papers of the respective counties where the bodies were found.
Should be called, "The Cost of British Genocide "
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That one skeleton and skull shows years of trauma and wounds over years of that poor individual life I feel so bad for him and I know how you feel with alot of damages done and bone damage in my lifetime also.🙏 May God and his son Jesus Christ Messiah accepts the outcast, persecuted for thy name sakes dear God and let those live the new life with you in your kingdom my God of my fathers amen. For sum of the human flocks of Earth shall be your people and blessed by your grace and goodness dear God.🙏
So you had cartel mob in Ireland killings of ones even innocent people and then British crown killing them off too at the same time IRA doing the same doesn't even give civilians populations any hope or anything to be trusted poor peoples I feel it and the disparity of no hope or helplessness towards anything. Only God to be trusted and help of those times for God very merciful and full of grace and love towards ones that are meek and trust in him above for this world lays in evil and darkness and more evils in the world than good God told me before times and not how he designed it but ways of cruelty and curruptors of people🙏☁️🦁🍷👑🗡🦅
Geoffrey Compton captain nairac whats the difference they haven't found him yet
Every single death was a senseless waste of life, when are Irish nationalists going to start caring about Constable O'Brien?
I am proud to say I have Irish blood just found out
@@thecoexistingrepublican6 maybe cause I'm mostly British
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Plastic Paddy
@@elizabethpiveronus3359 As an Irishman u just ruined it by saying ur a Maga Mutant!
@@montagreloaded7586 if you are going to use that term get it right, its plastic paddy.
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In war people die my own grandfather as a five year old child in 1920 while running from the Black and Tans who were shooting up hogan place in Dublin slipped getting over a railing it impaled him the tans stopped and laughed at him while my great grandmother tried to get him down it happened outside there front door.my great grandfather was a Sargent major in the British army fought all over the world he went awol and joined the volunteers war is not black and white.
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The Roman Catholic priesthood comes out of this very badly. Priests attended the victims of at least three of the named killings mentioned here but there is no evidence offered of any attempt to intercede for their lives.
You expect all those pedophiles to have any sense of morality?
@@airplayn Please stick to the subject and air your opinions on paedophilia in the Catholic Church somewhere more appropriate.
@@markaxworthy2508 You are the one that first brought up the subject of the priests moral failure by doing nothing to stop the murders they witnessed and so were complicit in them by not turning the murderers in. So take your own advice and stick to the subject yourself and don't be a judgmental hypocrite. JEEZ! And even my pedophilia comment was again made in response to your own criticism of the priests' failure in their moral obligation. I was actually 'supporting' your argument by pointing out that even in modern times and without the emotionally charged venue of violent revolution Catholic clergy have not been on the moral high ground. Just as demonstrated in this investigation, in the present they still fail miserably to set a moral standard of behavior and then hide behind their frocks, protected by an institution that "preaches" a higher purpose and morality. Again you are a hypocrite ... so you can just bite me! (Just like the priest did to me when I was an innocent catholic child)
I also notice my comment got as many likes as yours, so others seem to think it was an appropriate response in the context of your own comment criticizing the priests' roll. Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does.
@@airplayn There is a clear difference between my comment and yours. Mine was directly related to the video above, its content and the killings of the early 1920s.
If you can demonstrate that your comment on paedophilia has a clear connection with the video above, its content, or the killings of the early 1920s, please demonstrate it below.
Well? Over to you.
Good point
I didn't even know much about this part of Ireland history and the struggles and deaths so many civilians and others not only a fight for independence but a civil war at the same time jeeze wizz. For I'm mixed mutt or proud American guy with sum Irish ancestry besides other countries but I miss old days of Ireland that's lost and gone where there was once ancient forest that's gone today such times when Julius caesar times and when Jesus lived upon the world I don't even know exactly but some history the monarch ordered ship buildings and for war from Britain days other say for human development and herdings and farmlands caused the lost of those special ancient mossy forests that once existed..🍷👑🗡🦅🦁🦝🐍🇺🇸
James Connolly a true born Scot but had the blood to fight against injustice 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
The Welsh Prime Minister Lloyd George was a disgrace
True
My local chapter of the Ancient Order of Hibernians is named for Kevin Barry 💜
Major Geoffrey Compton Smith was a commander of the black and tans. A pretty brutal repressive part of the British army. This piece doesn't mention that. I am a great admirer of the British and their history, but there history in Ireland is not an admirable one. The famine was as much a man made catastrophe as well as a natural born one. That was a dark time that shouldn't be glossed over.
Man made? Why was Scotland and Western England starving at the same time then?
@@suzannehaigh4281 : A good many Irish were dependent on potatoes. The Welsh and Scots were not. Relief efforts from Britain were token at best repressive laws and restrictions by the British were shameful in Ireland
@@suzannehaigh4281 ask your royal family
No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.
@Chad Romanowski No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.
era of marxism
Era of a fight from freedom from imperialistic England
Cyril Macduff 😅
In the first minute the narrator has to concede that in fact some of the people they captured and were “innocent” casualties were actually in fact spies for the British 🤷🏻♀️😵💫. So, you mix that in with the inevitably terrible consequence of innocent civilians suffering on both sides throughout any war that has ever been fought (and often for much less noble causes such as the freedom of the indigenous population which this inherently was a war over) and somehow try to make it into a “yea, but these guys were bad too” narrative that muddies the waters even from the very beginning? I would rather see an openly honest portrayal of the history without the need for such narrative bias and intermingling of the various different unique stories and accounts into one overly simplistic narrative, and make as a viewer my own judgment from there rather than it being “spoon fed” to me intentionally for a particular intended result on the part of the production and narrators, but that is my personal preference. As I am already aware that war is atrocious and there are hardly often any “clean hands” to come out of such pain and suffering that fighting entails and war creates, I hardly need someone else to try to tell me who “the good guys and the bad guys” supposedly really were, as if it’s that black and white or simplistic of a sweeping conclusion to make- especially in this conflict and with such a LONG historical nuanced past underlying it’s very rocky foundation from the start.
I’m trying to understand what happened to my comment. Is it because I’m a “Black” woman and I understood why the IRA did what they felt was necessary?? Wow
Maybe what you said went against TH-cams community standards.
@@eoincaomhanach1983 I don’t know. I don’t recall saying much. I didn’t curse, or be rude, or vulgar with what I stated. So, I don’t have a clue why it was removed. Does every channel have a different set of rules??
@@jazzyboop2065 anything is possible.
@@jazzyboop2065 It does that, you need to log off, log in again and wait a day or so and then repost. It just does it at random to millions of people every day.
That must be the only answer.
Let's not talk about the Thousands of Irish who were executed or disappeared of flimsy or non existent evidence.
The Irish were at war , War is never black and white.
How about some balance.
Definitely the historian here eunan 0 halpin shows no balance like he doesn't really his brave great uncle soldiers doesn't mention one Kevin Barry was only 18 when he was hanged a famous song about him sung by famous people like Lenard Cohen Paul robeson etc it was a war of independence and specifically a guerrilla war a spy informer could cause devastating damage to the Irish soldiers life and death decisions had to be quicky made in this bias view 0 halpin should of mentioned most were spies also showing British atrocities on civilians would of been just
@@seanohare5488O'Halpin is a relation of Kevin Barry. One of the 3 soldiers from the Duke of Wellington Regiment killed in the ambush on 22nd September 1920 in Dublin city which Kevin Barry took part in was only 15 and two weeks short of his 16th birthday. Patrick Deasy a 16 year old IRA Volunteer was KIA on 28th November 1920 during the Kilmichael Ambush,Co.Cork . On 31st May 1921 in Youghal,Co.Cork the IRA used an IED to ambush the band of the Hampshire Regiment and killed 7 soldiers of which 3 were teenagers ranging in ages of 14 to 16 and wounded 20. In June 3 bandboys of the Manchester Regiment were abducted and killed by the IRA. Young Irish teenagers were both killed and wounded by the Crown Forces during the conflict.
It's one thing to research ancient graves or very recent atrocities, but what is gained by making scurrilous accusations and reopening wounds time has mostly healed? I can understand why you were denied access to government records for this "research". Revolutions are messy, especially after a long, cruel and bitter struggle when emotions run high. The religious element in the Irish situation made it even more nasty. However, even the American revolution against English oppression no doubt had many "disappeared" from both sides, only modern records and relatively contemporary investigations make this type of accounting possible. The ultimate blame is on the English oppressors for these deaths, including the decimation of Irish populations due to the English overlords stealing Irish grain leading to the over dependence of mono-culture potato and the resulting famine. The Irish population has not recovered from that tragedy even to this day.
Look at the presenters face, hes got the brace and bits with the world. I assume he lost family members, that he knew or were killed before he was born.
Doesnt matter when it comes to religious hatred.
Hes got a lot of hate in him, the video is full of hate.
I totally agree
@@vatsal7640 wow, you don't read with very good comprehension and then make sweeping erroneous and very cynical assumptions on too little data. AND you obviously fell asleep during American history class. I wasn't talking about the way Irish were treated IN England. I was referring to the way the English treated the Irish in their own country when it was controlled by the English.
english never paid for their crimes not only on Irish .
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My Nana, born in 1910, did not like the British.
Was she racist. Why did she not like the Scottish Welsh and English people, They all weren’t involved in political madness.
Me too
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THE BRITS MUST GO AT SOME POINT IN TIME
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Wow propoganda Channel Of British Government!
Obviously touched a nerve with you. There was nothing glorious about the 'glorious struggle' on either side.
Umm.... the presenter is Irish, and is quite accurate, the IRA aren't as glorious as many Irish men and women would like to believe.
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Eunan 0 halpin a lacky a troll
6 counties still under British rule. Proper independence will come
Guys your gonna hate me for this but I wish United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland still existed (be even better if it were United Republics instead eh?). Sorry mates but I understand why they rebeled and made independence after so much oppression then and still in NI. Have a go if you must but be gentle please...
Ireland should be free , ALL of it. It's colonialism in modern times. But it goes much much deeper than just being its own country.
What's the rationale behind your wish? Besides the fancy name you've come up with?
Asking the irish to be "gentle" ahah, you would have an easier time drawing blood from a stone.
Well "mate" we all have hopes. Mine is that the "United Kingdom" can f* right off.
@@seanglynn5415 it's just my point of view but at least I'm Republican eh? ;p
Now bring on all the paddies giving out about how the British were all while speaking english, loves a British football club more than their own local club's, why do the irish accept so much British midea be it TV shows or news, the biggest issue iv noticed about most Irish people is they refuse to be Irish basically most Irish are British in all way's bar a passport
And the British Irish
Yes and sadam Hussain liked Doritos and snickers. Your point isn’t a good one
@@themickeyslipper_brianoconnor still spoke Iraqi didn't he....Gan teanga, gan cultúr a chara
@@niallkelly2990 Tá an teanga fós anseo agus freisin an cultúr, mo chara. Labhair ar do shon féin
I pity the Irish that fell for the socialist lies of the IRA.
The Irish like in all countries throui history fought for the freedom from their oppressors
informers /collaborators are the reason the brits are still in Ireland
If your sitting anywhere south of Down, Armagh or Fermanagh you can STFU about the Troubles...
I agree
@@TheScaryTruthCatalyst and if you are sitting anywhere north of Monaghan, Louth, Cavan and Leitrim, you can forget about a UI.
This one's boring..
Who asked?
@@sen4403 Who asked? My wife that is whom!
If you find this boring you may like spotlight on the troubles series the 7 episodes in my documentary playlist
True and obviously bias