As a kid, we caravanned in Amroth, Pembrokeshire. One night, there was a severe storm & high tide that threw rocks onto the road along the coast. In the morning, bright sunshine, so we headed to the beach & the extreme low tide showed fossilised trees from forests that had been there since 10,000 BC - the neolithic period. 😊
An hour and a half of " The Greatest Archaeological Finds in Recent Years " by History Hit... Hell Yes!! You have just saved my Friday evening!! Thank you 🤩
As an archaeologist (specifically an Egyptologist), I have always felt incredibly divided on whether or not items found in burials should be taken away and displayed. Case in point: these jars; they were buried with these children, obviously as a sign of love, or hope or care. To take them away and display them seems counterintuitive to the right thing to do. I understand that things need to be preserved. I don’t know if they dug up the bones as well or they left them. I have always felt that it’s wrong. I do understand it in archaeology it’s done so that we can grasp an idea of how our ancestors lived and loved and existed in the world but at the same time this is grave robbing and it’s very hard to reconcile. that.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, how cool that you are an archeologist! Isn't it interesting that only humans would do such a thing! Discover a body and choose to disturb the grave, dig it up, clean, study, and then display it! I wonder if there are more ethical options and what the pros/cons would be. It seems like the biggest pro is to satisfy our curiosity
If its treated with respect. Don't see the problem with it. Think of all that would be lost if we didn't. And the harsh reality is in 2023, if they did leave these kind of things, some jerk would come steal it or vandalize it and ruin it. At least in my opinion its a net positive for society
Woman's dog brings in a dead rabbit, she's embarrassed because her neighbors have pet rabbits. She cleans it up and at night puts it back in the enclosure. Next day police are round the neighbors house and their children are crying. She asks, ... what's the problem? Police man replies , one of their pet rabbits died and some psycho dug it up and put it back in the enclosure.
Cheddar man, was the wildest UK find to me! Some 25 years ago, in an amazing piece of DNA detective work, using genetic material taken from the cavity of one of Cheddar Man’s molar teeth from 9,000 year's ago,, scientists were able to identify Mr. Targett, 62, as a direct descendant, living half a mile away!
For me, it was that they discovered he had dark skin, and loads of people got up in arms about it saying "Britons are WHITE! This is just rewriting history!" while scientists, historians, archeologists etc - basically anyone with sense - just went "....duh?" 😂
We have some of the richest history the world has ever seen and changed the world for better in most parts, our culture was either adopted or loved our people feared and looked up to and brought in many revolutions to usher in new ages, modern times we are told we should only think bad of our land and it’s history but it’s impossible when you actually look at history and see what the United Kingdom done for the world, it’s the greatest country in the world, (recent years it’s gone down the pan and given over to those who don’t like our land etc it’s a shame)
When I see a show like this I try and picture what the people way back then looked like and what they did everyday especially when they say how long ago they lived it’s so fascinating 👍🏻
Modern Americans don’t even know their own history and it’s crazy! It’s not that big😂but so many modern Americans don’t know their arse from their elbow that’s why they vote blue and get walked on😂I do agree with you British history is up there with the best! I love Americans who want to protect their country and it’s history and not be tarred today for past events because “race” or some dumb crap
To the curators you seem oblivious to the fact that this chalk drum was rolled on clay wet ground to produce the pattern. This is the only reason is was not carved into the drum but protubering from it.
I had EIGHT uncles in WWII, four from each side Uncles Kenneth, Sammy, Bobby, William, Joe, Herman, L.C. and Elmer. My Dad, Korea, me Vietnam. Proud of my family and all that have served.
My father became a USA TBM pilot at 18…joined at 17. My grandfather signed for him which really angered my grandmother. His 16 yr old radioman pulled my father out of a burning plane before it was pushed off the Jeep carrier into the ocean. We forget how very young many of the soldiers were and are to this day. The military was so desperate for soldiers they didn’t look that closely at birth certificates.
This is definitely the right video - there’s a major section on D-Day and the 101st Airborne. Thank you for sharing your story @Sharon! My great grandfather was a transport plane pilot over China in WWII if I understand it correctly too!
@@ProfessorRainman My father was part of the liberation of Korea. He was a Navy pilot. A lot of them did not want to talk about what they went through. I have some info he had shared with my mother and a couple he shared with me. The condition of the Korean people and those of POWs freed from Japanese prison camps had a profound impact, life long impact on him. He did tell me a bit about that himself. And there was no treatment for PTSD…it wasn’t even recognized. If you grandfather was in China he would have some terrible things. Bless him.
The top of the chalk drum symbolizes the 4 seasons. The circular swirls are the storms of winter, the angular shapes on the 'butterfly' side are summer and the indistinct 'lozenges' are spring and autumn.
The swirls are musical actually (they are the shapes of sound waves made in dust around a sound source). The triangles with the eyes over are singing. The cross is the sun. Quite obvious really.
Those drums were so beautiful and so moving. These children were cherished. Been fascinated by Stonehenge since I was a child…many years ago. As a kid I never understood how a period which created such astonishing art could be called dark…later I when I discovered how the term civilized is and has been used to exalt certain cultures over others and justify the worst in human behavior and it all became clear. Equally loathe the us if term “primitive.” Humans love to be better than one another.
Her excitement of taking the children’s drum that was obviously was a parent’s heartache. I understand that archaeology is a lot about preservation but it also feels a lot more like grave robbery when children are involved. When the parents placed the drums there I’m sure that they thought it would stay with the children forever.
I think it's more beautiful to think that all of these things are being remembered through so much time and are a gift to further generations, to teach us about them and their lives.
Thank you, this always makes me sick to my stomach. As much as I love time team I am absolutely repulsed whenever they knowingly begin digging into an area they know is a cemetery. Its one thing to stumble upon burials, but there were countless episodes of them looking for a cemetery or have already determined its location before digging and then still they dig in it. I immediately stop watching the episode because of how vile it was to watch people who usually show reverence for abandoned homes or shops that for some reason Francis works himself into a frenzy screaming with histrionics about the ritual practices these cult members were doing in that exact spot but then show no reverence for the consecrated ground that has actually been used in some type of religious ritual and burial. And then their behavior as they desecrate the burial grounds as they hoot, holler and laugh at each others terrible jokes with zero self awareness . Same people who will get up on sanctimonious soap boxes to complain when they realize grave robbers got there first before they could "grave excavate" or about some amateur detectorist in his free time finding something awesome...when it should have been left in the ground to be preserved until archeologists can come out 2 years later and revel about the discovery they just made. Sorry for the manic rant but the knowingly desecrating a cemetery or burial grounds and then taking the remains and the possession their loved ones thought they would want/need in the afterlife and act like they aren't robbing graves but saving history fills me with so much anger at that moment.
Folks, the Folkton “drums” aren’t literal drums, they are carved from natural chalk. Nobody is actually very sure what they are. They could be models of drums. They could also be stamps for pottery, wall-plaster, dye or paint. (Stamps are a fantastic way to produce high-quality decor / items with low skill. Small kids can get great results with them.) The top/bottom could also double as a pottery dish mould.
Its a mould for cheese, incidentally chalk cave are the best for airing cheese as chalk absorbs moistness as it is porous giving cheese the perfect veining and out crust, as in blue cheeses.milk comes first then butter which are the staple , cheese is the luxury hence the small posh pot that would be used from what liitle was left after milking, every homestead would of had them...also after weining children would be eating thicker foods like yogouts,junket creams and cheese...after all dairy products to this day is still associated with children, baby bell, milkyway, milk buttons etc...
When you see seals in history it makes sense these could be used for that or as they say a decorative spiritual piece, the word “drum” and people are thinking you play this thing😂or what’s inside…it’s rock
Thank you great video Loved the man with the helmet from DDay and got to communicate with the actual owner who parachuted in 🌟♥️🙏🏼 Dog tags ✨🙏🏼 Amazing stories!!! Love all the archeology and museum visits
The Waterloo excavation is particularly thrilling. Uncovering the grim evidence of battle really brings historic events to life in a way that books simply can't.
These are fabulous. Historical treasures that my m8 and I have discovered include: A steam-powered fire engine, the patent for the Wright Flyer, a Panama Canal construction era mosquito 'blaster'/backpack, and a woggle worn by Lord Baden Powell.
I love this series, but I wish you would have provided more information on the finds. What were those chalk boxes used for? Were those little figurines made out of bronze or stone?
Exactly my thought. They were standing infront of the collection of "drums" for ages, yet neither of them could be arsed to describe what they actually were. There were clearly 3 holes in the "lid", but was it a lid? What did it contain? Any chemical analysis of the contents? None of that got mentioned. Infuriatingly-absent of information... which is what the whole video was meant to be providing.
@@redceltnet The other three Folkton Drums are solid. I'm not sure they mentioned is here but the Burton Agnes Drum - the new one - almost certainly is too. Those studying it have said it is very similar to the previous drums, accept in terms of the carved designs/motifs. Therefore, it can be assumed to be solid.
@@pwimbledon Wouldn't it have been nice if they'd told us that in the video? If the featured drum is solid, then what are those 3 obvious holes on the "lid"?
I was lucky as a school pupil to get a priority pass to see the King Tutenkamun exhibition at the museum in London back in about 1972 without having to spend hours queuing up as we were an organised school trip. Luckily I knew my way around london underground even then despite the teachers not knowing their way around too well. So when we split into 2 groups we got back about an hour earlier than the other half of our class.
I was a teenager in Maryland when that exhibit came to the Smitsonian in Washington DC. We were members of the museum and got tickets, but they routed us through an exhibit of art by Rembrandt's students to get to the exhibit entrance in a far corner. As we wound our way through, my Dutch mother (both parents were) noticed an old illustrated 17th century book and went to read the earlier form of Dutch. Had to bump her to move along
As a retired US Army Infantryman that served 26 years on Active Duty and fought in two wars, I assure you that these actors went through the “bunny slope” version of Basic Training and was not taxing as they may claim. I’d love to see these actors do a few 24 mile road marches in full uniform with weapons and a 60 pound rucksack and oh, they only have 6 hours to complete the 24 miles and it’s the middle of August in Ft. Campbell, KY. I spent 6 years in D Co. 2/502 INF, 101st ABN.
Just an old Sergeant calling out an actor trying to convince people they went through something arduous while I know their lawyers and insurance writers wouldn’t allow anything that would affect the actors emotionally or physically. I went to Bastogne each December while I was stationed in Germany and spoke with the Vets that fought there and shared stories of my time in Iraq and the hilarious things we saw. War, Infantry life is a lifetime commitment since we were all asked; who among you will go and fight? and we answered, that’s what binds Veterans of all ages. And these fine actors got a glimpse of what we did.
We’ve always done that😂up to modern times, to the match have a little punch up to the pub it’s part of our culture and who we are it’s why our teeth are fucked😂but nowadays this is all just being forgotten… other peoples culture is “better” apparently even though it had no play in the whole of British history and the history of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
dan snow, you are remarkable. love your shows. produce more !! from the usa with much love. Paleo man. ditto re phil harding . grimes graves field man.
Nicely presented. The burial site drum: If it were 5,000 years old, the skeletal bones in the grave would be considerable larger. A lot of speculation and theorizing going on with this item. Large skeletal remains of ancient times have primarily been found in the middle east such as in Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc., dating back to truly ancient times.
now that is freaky, I have a plumb bob that's almost the same (only difference is the bit at the top is round with a hole on top instead of the flattened one they have there) to the one at 55:10 I used to use it on site to do my measuring. Not sure where I found it...maybe it is actually roman. I guess I'll have to find it
What did the Archeology Professor tell his students? "Your future is in ruins!" I had to dig deep for that, so don't give me the brush-off as if I was only scratching the surface.
4:13 I think it's a map or depiction of territory; the whorls representing significant mounds, and the other lines significant field or settlement boundaries, or depiction of landscape(s).
the 1 drum for 3 kids and 3 drums for 1 kid just makes my fantasy go haywire and image that the kids are in some way related, and the drums are representation of eachother. so like the 1 drum is that one kid whose 3 drums are the 3 other kids. but that would only really work if the graves are from close enough moments in time.
Hopefully one day I'll get to the Museum in London == great display. What did the discoverers do with the three child bones? Where they moved to a new site?
Amazing find! Thanks for showing it to us. Also the archeologist looks a LOT like an old friend- last name Beasley, from Southampton. Related? And about the 'drums'.. do they make noise? Are they hollow? What are they used for?
He grates on my nerves for many reasons! I really don't like him at all, so I rarely watch History Hit stuff because of it! He gets on my nerves in so many different ways.
40:09 I was surprised to see my family's last name in a UK archeology video, not sure if we are related but caught my attention. It started me down a path of genealogy research and found multiple Blakes in Easy Company.
Not only the isles of Britain was very interconnected but those circles with a cross inside them are painted and carved in stone in mostly Sweden and Scandinavia all over the place as well. They are between 4-5000 years old also.
The one thing that these remote and distant camps had in common was that they all shared the same sky. Ancient rock & stone art has many similarities and one theory suggests that they are describing cosmic events that they all saw in the day or night sky.
The dog tags are things that can get you right into the person and their history which is just amazing when it comes to archaeology and yes it'd not really old compared to our amazingly long history but with the information that we get it's amazing to know alot more about the object and its story and how and why it was there,
It may be the greatest archeological find by British archeologists. But by far the greatest archeological find is the cave where an entirely new species of prehistoric prehuman skeletons were found. Called Homonulet numerous remains were found in the Rising Star Cave in subsaharan Africa. The find included dozens of skeletal remains including a child with a stone tool clasped in it's hand. This species exhibited a conscious burying ritual evidenced over 150,000 years earlier than our previously identified closest ancestor. There was also evidence of symbolic writing found on the cave walls. That's by far the greatest archeological find of the century and possibly ever.
To be fair to the people burying the Waterloo dead, disposing of one body is one thing, having 15,000 bodies to dispose of in the heat of summer is something all together different.
I don’t know in what way the items were hoarded but when I look at this collection what I see is someone who snatched up a bunch of shiny objects and hid them, in other words plunder, perhaps gathered from a battlefield by a local
It was a wonderful video about the Stonehenge before 5000 years. Other historical periods of England history pages. how they purified gold....thank you (history Hit) channel for sharing this remarkable historical coverage
@5:19 The likely reason that the 3 kids were buried with one drum but the one child was buried with 3 drums is that this culture had a mourning ritual for the dead children's surviving/living siblings to make chalk drums purposefully to be buried with their dead sibling. I'm sure this assignment was a powerful way to get the distraught siblings to focus on their own personal contribution, a creative & meaningful grave good, that was this chalk drum and it probably was an extremely successful exercise to jump start the path for the siblings to begin processing their grief and trauma.. And especially genius is their choice of burying the child with a drum, specifically. A child (or adult) suffering from such big loss will feel like a part of their heart is missing... So what better than the choice of the DRUM to make, telling the grief stricken children that the drum will house the missing part of their heart that feels missing and wishes to always be alongside the dead sib. Reassuring the kid that that part of them, within the drum can continue to forever beat alongside the fallen child while both are buried together within the earth. The buried child will never be alone because their drum/heart beat will be with them forever..
When you described the plum-bob as "functional", did you actually try attaching some twine to test it? The hole looked slightly off-centre to me, which would make it non-functional. I saw a collection of non-functioning / damaged bronze items which would be perfect candidates for melting-down for re-use, not a votive offering.
I quite like when archeology is examined to attempt to tell the story. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the excavations in Egypt, or Jerusalem, where they have their mind made up on the history and try to find artifacts to prove they're right.
Not really, they do have a good idea of what it will be from others etc, in Jerusalem many objects expected to be something later get dismissed and found to be something els, you can’t just tell the world a lie because they will look into it and they don’t get far
I see the connections in the iconography but what did the people who hurried those children put in the chalk drums? Also, did the two holes for the lid save as a way to attach a rope handle?
We need a system that collects crucial information, about crucial issues! An info processing library, where folks can be directly involved, with voice and vote. That system is "civil defense", in a 21st century context.
I think the Chalk Drums are not just a stylized faces, but entire stylized HEADS! In abstract Picasso Style. The Spirals in the back are Picasso Style hair curls. The sorta hourglass or figure 8 is the Picasso Style Ear. The Cross on top can indeed be the sun, or a Picasso Style Sun beating down on the head. Im a visual Artist, so I know about Stylizing drawings.
They’re not spirals they are a circle within a circle within a circle,it couldn’t be in the style of Picasso because it was five thousand years before him, Picasso isn’t from very long ago he died recently 1973 There is similarities within everything and all of these designs the cross the figure 8 the circles etc
So early on in time, could not the ' cross" shape thing just represent the four directions; North, South, East, and West, as the rising and setting of the sun and the directions of the Southern winds were important on where to place the door to dwellings?
It's quite a commonly found symbol - and is thought to just represent the sun. I'm not sure what significance the north and south would have in a late neolithic culture, if any. They were obviously the locations perpendicular to east/west, but not sure they were seen as important as east/west. West and east would be roughly aligned with sunrise and sunset and other celestial aspects appearing/disappearing, but the solstice sunrise/sunsets are actually northeast and northwest. Those specific lines were probably most important to these people. As for door positions, they would have know to avoid south-west winds, just from experience.
@@pwimbledon I totally disagree about avoiding that or any wind direction for doors. In any location, many other things could easily over ride wind consideration. Most places don't even have stable winds. Also, during solstices, in the northern hemisphere, sunrise and sunset are in the southeast and southwest, not in the northeast and west. I'm not much farther north than they are, but the sun here never enters the northern part of the sky at all, not even in mid summer. It's the reason why, for my whole life I've avoided living in homes that mostly face north, because they are dark. With the sun being always in the south, I need to have big windows facing south, to catch the little sun we do get.
@@cattymajiv sorry, but that’s just untrue. In the northern hemisphere, at certain latitudes, the sun will get to the point where it is rising and setting north-east and north-west, respectively. Obviously, if you go north enough, it will never set and is visible in the northern sky, for parts of the summer, all day. The sun only rises/sets due east/west for a couple of days a year (the spring/autumn equinoxes) The rest are either south or north of that, depending on the season. In the UK, at the height of summer, is is a north-east sunrise, and a north-west sunset - and at the height of winter, it is the inverse - south-east, south-west. You've got the details completely backward.
@@cattymajiv also, the mention of wind wasn’t really my point - it was the original poster's point. But, if prehistoric people were building houses (not ceremonial structures), and were considering winds and weather, they would have known to have avoided south west facing doors. Generally speaking, on average, the worst weather comes from the southwest.
@@cattymajiv just checked the summer solstice for London. Sun rise is 49 degrees north-east, sun set is 311 degrees north-west. Almost exactly due north-east and due north-west. And that is London - Yorkshire is obviously further north than that. Not sure where you live, but you need to look out of the window more, during June.
It might seem crazy but with all the detail peoples eyesight must have been very good. Also, the desire to create great detail seems to be a drive to be better than others and to show off your talents or at least be rewarded for talents.
@@maxp9598it would take more time to create a fake rather than just display the actual thing in a bulletproof glass container, if someone does try to replace it to steal the original it would be found out as a fake really quick and who ever had the real one tried to sell it wouldn’t get far because the buyer will say “it’s not real because the real one is sitting in the museum?” I don’t think anyone will try sell it on eBay😂no one will pay what it’s worth
The museum is guarded has sensors on most glass cameras everywhere even humidity is controlled so they would have a hard time it’s not exactly a random shop😂it’s the worlds largest museum with priceless artefacts I think they have thought about robbery before…
I love this format of British documentaries. I grew up watching all type of documentaries but this is one of my favorites. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
I went to this exhibition last year, and the most exciting part of it was Seahenge. So amazing to see trees that have been preserved for soooo long
As a kid, we caravanned in Amroth, Pembrokeshire. One night, there was a severe storm & high tide that threw rocks onto the road along the coast. In the morning, bright sunshine, so we headed to the beach & the extreme low tide showed fossilised trees from forests that had been there since 10,000 BC - the neolithic period. 😊
@@ruthcollins2841The same on Borth beach in Wales..
History hit went from just getting started to top notch documentary source, amazingly quick. Well done!
stop bootlicking...
An hour and a half of " The Greatest Archaeological Finds in Recent Years " by History Hit... Hell Yes!!
You have just saved my Friday evening!! Thank you 🤩
You made me realize that it is Friday!
It's what we're here for! Hope you enjoy!
@@CaymanIslandsCatWalks 😅 You're welcome... I hope!
As an archaeologist (specifically an Egyptologist), I have always felt incredibly divided on whether or not items found in burials should be taken away and displayed. Case in point: these jars; they were buried with these children, obviously as a sign of love, or hope or care. To take them away and display them seems counterintuitive to the right thing to do. I understand that things need to be preserved. I don’t know if they dug up the bones as well or they left them. I have always felt that it’s wrong. I do understand it in archaeology it’s done so that we can grasp an idea of how our ancestors lived and loved and existed in the world but at the same time this is grave robbing and it’s very hard to reconcile. that.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, how cool that you are an archeologist! Isn't it interesting that only humans would do such a thing! Discover a body and choose to disturb the grave, dig it up, clean, study, and then display it!
I wonder if there are more ethical options and what the pros/cons would be. It seems like the biggest pro is to satisfy our curiosity
I think it would be cool if 3D replicas are displayed and the artifacts remain with the buried
If its treated with respect. Don't see the problem with it. Think of all that would be lost if we didn't. And the harsh reality is in 2023, if they did leave these kind of things, some jerk would come steal it or vandalize it and ruin it. At least in my opinion its a net positive for society
When I first heard about the mummy brown pigment I felt so incredulous about humans… we have a powerful ability to destroy everything.
@@Rissy617as opposed to digging a body up and eating it like an animal? What are you comparing humans to that makes you think we aren’t ethical?
1:13:49 man to the left, The Great Phil Harding. In my opinion, the world's best archeologists. Legend.
I adore Phil Harding! :)
So good to see Phil!!!!
Time team fans assemble! Lol
@@NikkiDoesStufffI heard your call!
Me too!
This was an hour-and-a-half very well spent. Thank you, History Hit.
“Buried with Children” would be a great sitcom name
Woman's dog brings in a dead rabbit, she's embarrassed because her neighbors have pet rabbits. She cleans it up and at night puts it back in the enclosure. Next day police are round the neighbors house and their children are crying. She asks, ... what's the problem? Police man replies , one of their pet rabbits died and some psycho dug it up and put it back in the enclosure.
Lmao😂
No no it's about a family stuck in a nuclear fallout shelter after a nuclear war.
"live and perish" "live and perish"
Ya if your a freak serial killer
Cheddar man, was the wildest UK find to me! Some 25 years ago, in an amazing piece of DNA detective work, using genetic material taken from the cavity of one of Cheddar Man’s molar teeth from 9,000 year's ago,, scientists were able to identify Mr. Targett, 62, as a direct descendant, living half a mile away!
At 23:00, he says, "and the arrival of Europeans in Britain."
It was always Europeans in Britain.
@@archangel2781 he's talking about post-roman european groups interacting with those who have been in britain for centuries
@@thatartguy725 I just went on what he said.
For me, it was that they discovered he had dark skin, and loads of people got up in arms about it saying "Britons are WHITE! This is just rewriting history!" while scientists, historians, archeologists etc - basically anyone with sense - just went "....duh?" 😂
Love this format. With the different funds. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
The UK is such a amazing place in the history of humanity
Makes sense when u realise god is English
@@Mr_krabz_mcfc Lol lol that was a good one
@@Mr_krabz_mcfcthis is gods own country🇬🇧…
We have some of the richest history the world has ever seen and changed the world for better in most parts, our culture was either adopted or loved our people feared and looked up to and brought in many revolutions to usher in new ages, modern times we are told we should only think bad of our land and it’s history but it’s impossible when you actually look at history and see what the United Kingdom done for the world, it’s the greatest country in the world, (recent years it’s gone down the pan and given over to those who don’t like our land etc it’s a shame)
When I see a show like this I try and picture what the people way back then looked like and what they did everyday especially when they say how long ago they lived it’s so fascinating 👍🏻
Awww yay! It's so nice to see Phil in a more recent video. Been binging old school time team. Love his personality!! 🥲
Thank you for not yelling. Seriously.
Truely fascinating . . . and something actually worth watching
Love watching documentaries like this.💯👏
As an American, I am so humbled by British reverence of history. I don’t know why most Americans are so oblivious.
Most British folks are oblivious tbf...
Modern Americans don’t even know their own history and it’s crazy! It’s not that big😂but so many modern Americans don’t know their arse from their elbow that’s why they vote blue and get walked on😂I do agree with you British history is up there with the best! I love Americans who want to protect their country and it’s history and not be tarred today for past events because “race” or some dumb crap
In my 20s I would never watch history documentary but now at 34 it's so fascinating and educational to learn about the history of humans n culture
I am just so glad its not an AI narrator.
Great video. The segment on the dog tags was very moving.
British museum is the best museum in the world and owns everything in its exhibits
To the curators you seem oblivious to the fact that this chalk drum was rolled on clay wet ground to produce the pattern. This is the only reason is was not carved into the drum but protubering from it.
Good for all these people for discovering all these amazing finds. :)
I had EIGHT uncles in WWII, four from each side Uncles Kenneth, Sammy, Bobby, William, Joe, Herman, L.C. and Elmer. My Dad, Korea, me Vietnam. Proud of my family and all that have served.
Gosh, a whole family of killers and mass murders!!!
Loved it man. Always here for 33. I was blessed growing up outside of Boston in the 80s.
My father became a USA TBM pilot at 18…joined at 17. My grandfather signed for him which really angered my grandmother. His 16 yr old radioman pulled my father out of a burning plane before it was pushed off the Jeep carrier into the ocean. We forget how very young many of the soldiers were and are to this day. The military was so desperate for soldiers they didn’t look that closely at birth certificates.
What does that have to do with the Age of Stonehenge ?
Wrong video
@@bentucker2301 sorry about that…
This is definitely the right video - there’s a major section on D-Day and the 101st Airborne. Thank you for sharing your story @Sharon! My great grandfather was a transport plane pilot over China in WWII if I understand it correctly too!
@@ProfessorRainman My father was part of the liberation of Korea. He was a Navy pilot. A lot of them did not want to talk about what they went through. I have some info he had shared with my mother and a couple he shared with me. The condition of the Korean people and those of POWs freed from Japanese prison camps had a profound impact, life long impact on him. He did tell me a bit about that himself. And there was no treatment for PTSD…it wasn’t even recognized. If you grandfather was in China he would have some terrible things. Bless him.
I love the history hit channel ❤
If only we didn't have to endure Dan Snow, it would be even better!
The top of the chalk drum symbolizes the 4 seasons. The circular swirls are the storms of winter, the angular shapes on the 'butterfly' side are summer and the indistinct 'lozenges' are spring and autumn.
We don’t know for sure so that’s just one interpretation.
The swirls are musical actually (they are the shapes of sound waves made in dust around a sound source). The triangles with the eyes over are singing. The cross is the sun. Quite obvious really.
@@Elfsinger The archaeologists and historians will be very grateful for your invaluable insights.
@@Elfsinger I don’t see that at all even after pausing the video.
@@Elfsinger Your fantasies are maybe just a little bit interesting, but far from factual.
Those drums were so beautiful and so moving. These children were cherished. Been fascinated by Stonehenge since I was a child…many years ago. As a kid I never understood how a period which created such astonishing art could be called dark…later I when I discovered how the term civilized is and has been used to exalt certain cultures over others and justify the worst in human behavior and it all became clear. Equally loathe the us if term “primitive.” Humans love to be better than one another.
Dark just means obscure-to-us. That we can’t see much of it.
@@eh1702 I was referring to the term Dark Ages.
@@sharonkaczorowski8690 "Dark Ages", because, as was mentioned, very little documentary evidence survives.
@@Lucius1958 I know…I’m a Social Scientist with a background in history…also an art lover, hence my comment.
Her excitement of taking the children’s drum that was obviously was a parent’s heartache. I understand that archaeology is a lot about preservation but it also feels a lot more like grave robbery when children are involved. When the parents placed the drums there I’m sure that they thought it would stay with the children forever.
I think it's more beautiful to think that all of these things are being remembered through so much time and are a gift to further generations, to teach us about them and their lives.
@@idiotequedwaal so youre giving me the green light to dig up your dead child and their things?
Thank you, this always makes me sick to my stomach. As much as I love time team I am absolutely repulsed whenever they knowingly begin digging into an area they know is a cemetery. Its one thing to stumble upon burials, but there were countless episodes of them looking for a cemetery or have already determined its location before digging and then still they dig in it. I immediately stop watching the episode because of how vile it was to watch people who usually show reverence for abandoned homes or shops that for some reason Francis works himself into a frenzy screaming with histrionics about the ritual practices these cult members were doing in that exact spot but then show no reverence for the consecrated ground that has actually been used in some type of religious ritual and burial. And then their behavior as they desecrate the burial grounds as they hoot, holler and laugh at each others terrible jokes with zero self awareness . Same people who will get up on sanctimonious soap boxes to complain when they realize grave robbers got there first before they could "grave excavate" or about some amateur detectorist in his free time finding something awesome...when it should have been left in the ground to be preserved until archeologists can come out 2 years later and revel about the discovery they just made.
Sorry for the manic rant but the knowingly desecrating a cemetery or burial grounds and then taking the remains and the possession their loved ones thought they would want/need in the afterlife and act like they aren't robbing graves but saving history fills me with so much anger at that moment.
Er, they are dead. They don't care, they aren't aware 🙄
Burial rituals are for the living to heal, they ain't magic,so once the decedent's generation is gone, dig em up
Folks, the Folkton “drums” aren’t literal drums, they are carved from natural chalk.
Nobody is actually very sure what they are. They could be models of drums.
They could also be stamps for pottery, wall-plaster, dye or paint.
(Stamps are a fantastic way to produce high-quality decor / items with low skill. Small kids can get great results with them.)
The top/bottom could also double as a pottery dish mould.
Spinning tops.
I interpreted the word 'drum' as referring to the shape rather than the use...
@@everydaysaschool-day7517 Yes, but when the video was newly up, people were interpreting it literally.
Its a mould for cheese, incidentally chalk cave are the best for airing cheese as chalk absorbs moistness as it is porous giving cheese the perfect veining and out crust, as in blue cheeses.milk comes first then butter which are the staple , cheese is the luxury hence the small posh pot that would be used from what liitle was left after milking, every homestead would of had them...also after weining children would be eating thicker foods like yogouts,junket creams and cheese...after all dairy products to this day is still associated with children, baby bell, milkyway, milk buttons etc...
When you see seals in history it makes sense these could be used for that or as they say a decorative spiritual piece, the word “drum” and people are thinking you play this thing😂or what’s inside…it’s rock
It's exciting to see the excitement.
Nice, finally a video like this where its not some computerized voice talking
I love to listen to british English speakers
This Stonehenge exhibition was fantastic. I wish I could have seen it more than once. Far too much to take in.
That was excellent, thank you!
The carved chalk drums are incredible.
Great video. I've been following it
Thank you great video Loved the man with the helmet from DDay and got to communicate with the actual owner who parachuted in 🌟♥️🙏🏼 Dog tags ✨🙏🏼 Amazing stories!!! Love all the archeology and museum visits
I LOVE History Hit! ❤❤
The Waterloo excavation is particularly thrilling. Uncovering the grim evidence of battle really brings historic events to life in a way that books simply can't.
I thank you for the entertainment.
What a great film!
Cheers!
These are fabulous. Historical treasures that my m8 and I have discovered include: A steam-powered fire engine, the patent for the Wright Flyer, a Panama Canal construction era mosquito 'blaster'/backpack, and a woggle worn by Lord Baden Powell.
Woow ❤
I love this series, but I wish you would have provided more information on the finds. What were those chalk boxes used for? Were those little figurines made out of bronze or stone?
I'm not sure they were hollow - they were solid chalk, and almost certainly decorative.
@@pwimbledonIt was never mentioned... until near the end when the "drum" was described as a hollowed-out chalk cylinder.
Exactly my thought. They were standing infront of the collection of "drums" for ages, yet neither of them could be arsed to describe what they actually were. There were clearly 3 holes in the "lid", but was it a lid? What did it contain? Any chemical analysis of the contents? None of that got mentioned. Infuriatingly-absent of information... which is what the whole video was meant to be providing.
@@redceltnet The other three Folkton Drums are solid. I'm not sure they mentioned is here but the Burton Agnes Drum - the new one - almost certainly is too. Those studying it have said it is very similar to the previous drums, accept in terms of the carved designs/motifs. Therefore, it can be assumed to be solid.
@@pwimbledon Wouldn't it have been nice if they'd told us that in the video? If the featured drum is solid, then what are those 3 obvious holes on the "lid"?
I was lucky as a school pupil to get a priority pass to see the King Tutenkamun exhibition at the museum in London back in about 1972 without having to spend hours queuing up as we were an organised school trip. Luckily I knew my way around london underground even then despite the teachers not knowing their way around too well. So when we split into 2 groups we got back about an hour earlier than the other half of our class.
I was a teenager in Maryland when that exhibit came to the Smitsonian in Washington DC. We were members of the museum and got tickets, but they routed us through an exhibit of art by Rembrandt's students to get to the exhibit entrance in a far corner. As we wound our way through, my Dutch mother (both parents were) noticed an old illustrated 17th century book and went to read the earlier form of Dutch. Had to bump her to move along
Remember seeing it too on a special school trip. Another sitting on Concorde before it started up at Heathrow Airport. 😊
As a retired US Army Infantryman that served 26 years on Active Duty and fought in two wars, I assure you that these actors went through the “bunny slope” version of Basic Training and was not taxing as they may claim. I’d love to see these actors do a few 24 mile road marches in full uniform with weapons and a 60 pound rucksack and oh, they only have 6 hours to complete the 24 miles and it’s the middle of August in Ft. Campbell, KY. I spent 6 years in D Co. 2/502 INF, 101st ABN.
Pretty everyone knows that including them but it would still be tough on them and give them an idea
Just an old Sergeant calling out an actor trying to convince people they went through something arduous while I know their lawyers and insurance writers wouldn’t allow anything that would affect the actors emotionally or physically. I went to Bastogne each December while I was stationed in Germany and spoke with the Vets that fought there and shared stories of my time in Iraq and the hilarious things we saw. War, Infantry life is a lifetime commitment since we were all asked; who among you will go and fight? and we answered, that’s what binds Veterans of all ages. And these fine actors got a glimpse of what we did.
That modern path scoring across Stone henges landscape is aesthetically bothersome to my brain.
Great content. Great episode/s.
That's the British for you after the battle is over and the both sides go straight down the pub for a good drink
We’ve always done that😂up to modern times, to the match have a little punch up to the pub it’s part of our culture and who we are it’s why our teeth are fucked😂but nowadays this is all just being forgotten… other peoples culture is “better” apparently even though it had no play in the whole of British history and the history of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
dan snow, you are remarkable. love your shows. produce more !! from the usa with much love. Paleo man. ditto re phil harding . grimes graves field man.
The British flag has both the cross and the “figure 8 butterfly” that is seen on the drums. 🇬🇧
Without knowing they had the pieces that made up our amazing flag that would go on to create so much history and symbolise so much🇬🇧rule Britannia!
Nicely presented. The burial site drum: If it were 5,000 years old, the skeletal bones in the grave would be considerable larger. A lot of speculation and theorizing going on with this item. Large skeletal remains of ancient times have primarily been found in the middle east such as in Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc., dating back to truly ancient times.
now that is freaky, I have a plumb bob that's almost the same (only difference is the bit at the top is round with a hole on top instead of the flattened one they have there) to the one at 55:10 I used to use it on site to do my measuring. Not sure where I found it...maybe it is actually roman. I guess I'll have to find it
What did the Archeology Professor tell his students? "Your future is in ruins!"
I had to dig deep for that, so don't give me the brush-off as if I was only scratching the surface.
4:13 I think it's a map or depiction of territory; the whorls representing significant mounds, and the other lines significant field or settlement boundaries, or depiction of landscape(s).
And the cross on top would perhaps indicate a cardinal direction, presumably East.
In the first find: how did the children die? There was a lot of child sacrifice in many cultures.
Great stuff.
the 1 drum for 3 kids and 3 drums for 1 kid just makes my fantasy go haywire and image that the kids are in some way related, and the drums are representation of eachother. so like the 1 drum is that one kid whose 3 drums are the 3 other kids. but that would only really work if the graves are from close enough moments in time.
Hopefully one day I'll get to the Museum in London == great display.
What did the discoverers do with the three child bones? Where they
moved to a new site?
Amazing find! Thanks for showing it to us.
Also the archeologist looks a LOT like an old friend- last name Beasley, from Southampton. Related?
And about the 'drums'.. do they make noise? Are they hollow? What are they used for?
Really enjoyed Tristan and Luke as presenters! More with them please.
I like Dan but find him a bit high energy for me at times.
and he talks with his mouth full
Yup that puts me off so much! Can't watch or listen to that
i love Dan's passion and enthusiasm. but everyone has personal preference.
He grates on my nerves for many reasons! I really don't like him at all, so I rarely watch History Hit stuff because of it! He gets on my nerves in so many different ways.
remarkable! most impressed by the energetic museum director, despite her pc "craftspersonship"! thanks for putting this together!
Very informative
It's more likely that Fenstermaker's dogtag was found to be wrong, a new one was issued and the old one with the errors on it was just chucked away.
Her voice is amazing!
What are the drums made of? What are their weight and dimensions? So many basic questions unanswered!
It’s made of stone, dimensions aren’t known but looks a little wider than a sports direct mug😂if you’re bot british you probably won’t get that one…
40:09 I was surprised to see my family's last name in a UK archeology video, not sure if we are related but caught my attention. It started me down a path of genealogy research and found multiple Blakes in Easy Company.
Not only the isles of Britain was very interconnected but those circles with a cross inside them are painted and carved in stone in mostly Sweden and Scandinavia all over the place as well. They are between 4-5000 years old also.
The one thing that these remote and distant camps had in common was that they all shared the same sky. Ancient rock & stone art has many similarities and one theory suggests that they are describing cosmic events that they all saw in the day or night sky.
The dog tags are things that can get you right into the person and their history which is just amazing when it comes to archaeology and yes it'd not really old compared to our amazingly long history but with the information that we get it's amazing to know alot more about the object and its story and how and why it was there,
It may be the greatest archeological find by British archeologists. But by far the greatest archeological find is the cave where an entirely new species of prehistoric prehuman skeletons were found. Called Homonulet numerous remains were found in the Rising Star Cave in subsaharan Africa. The find included dozens of skeletal remains including a child with a stone tool clasped in it's hand. This species exhibited a conscious burying ritual evidenced over 150,000 years earlier than our previously identified closest ancestor. There was also evidence of symbolic writing found on the cave walls. That's by far the greatest archeological find of the century and possibly ever.
I believe they are called Homo Naledi
Thank you for sharing this information! Can't wait to read about this discovery!
To be fair to the people burying the Waterloo dead, disposing of one body is one thing, having 15,000 bodies to dispose of in the heat of summer is something all together different.
I don’t know in what way the items were hoarded but when I look at this collection what I see is someone who snatched up a bunch of shiny objects and hid them, in other words plunder, perhaps gathered from a battlefield by a local
You think people are going to carry heavy and pointy metal stuff on them into battle?
Red phone box is also nice as a recent discovery.
The gold collars are for the tone drums!
And they are maps
My head goes to maps. Because imo Stonehenge is a winter meet-up place for parties and finding partners.
Aren't they worn around the neck?
Those drums in the first part seemed to have a dna double helix.
That’s what I thought as well! 🧬
Yeah nope.
The zigzag symbol or 8. Laying horizontally has sometimes represented "Infinity or Forever". Id say appropriate for a funerary piece.
Informative
That collar at 13:36 (with the zig zags) is beautiful.
It was a wonderful video about the Stonehenge before 5000 years. Other historical periods of England history pages. how they purified gold....thank you (history Hit) channel for sharing this remarkable historical coverage
@5:19 The likely reason that the 3 kids were buried with one drum but the one child was buried with 3 drums is that this culture had a mourning ritual for the dead children's surviving/living siblings to make chalk drums purposefully to be buried with their dead sibling. I'm sure this assignment was a powerful way to get the distraught siblings to focus on their own personal contribution, a creative & meaningful grave good, that was this chalk drum and it probably was an extremely successful exercise to jump start the path for the siblings to begin processing their grief and trauma..
And especially genius is their choice of burying the child with a drum, specifically. A child (or adult) suffering from such big loss will feel like a part of their heart is missing...
So what better than the choice of the DRUM to make, telling the grief stricken children that the drum will house the missing part of their heart that feels missing and wishes to always be alongside the dead sib. Reassuring the kid that that part of them, within the drum can continue to forever beat alongside the fallen child while both are buried together within the earth.
The buried child will never be alone because their drum/heart beat will be with them forever..
When you described the plum-bob as "functional", did you actually try attaching some twine to test it? The hole looked slightly off-centre to me, which would make it non-functional. I saw a collection of non-functioning / damaged bronze items which would be perfect candidates for melting-down for re-use, not a votive offering.
Hang a severed head on a piece of twine it will still hang down giving you a perfect straight reading...
As a gynecologist, making discoveries on the job is what it’s all about
As a homeless, jobless person... I got nothin.
I want to see a documentary about everything the Smithsonian "misplaced".
Lol
They would have conveniently "misplaced" that documentary as well. 🧐
Fascinating. But did they try to see what is inside these pots?
I quite like when archeology is examined to attempt to tell the story. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the excavations in Egypt, or Jerusalem, where they have their mind made up on the history and try to find artifacts to prove they're right.
Not really, they do have a good idea of what it will be from others etc, in Jerusalem many objects expected to be something later get dismissed and found to be something els, you can’t just tell the world a lie because they will look into it and they don’t get far
The "figure 8" design is also a rune, "Daig"...
means New Day, etc.
Facinating
I see the connections in the iconography but what did the people who hurried those children put in the chalk drums?
Also, did the two holes for the lid save as a way to attach a rope handle?
I would love to know that the little children who were deprived of their treasure, have been given as much care as their object.
Perfectly said. I felt uncomfortable with all the excitement about the drum without regard for these beings.
Agree
Stuff just keeps getting older ❤
We need a system that collects crucial information, about crucial issues!
An info processing library, where folks can be directly involved, with voice and vote.
That system is "civil defense", in a 21st century context.
My dad Sam Jacobs was the Jump SGT for the 508th Co H PIR in WW2! I Grew up 10 miles from Dick Winters home! JJ VF 142 75-79 USN
I find it so fascinating that they had such healthy teeth! I wonder how they cared for them!! This video is AWESOME ❤
Lack of sugar in the diet.
all meat and root veg-No wheat and sugar.
I think the Chalk Drums are not just a stylized faces, but entire stylized HEADS! In abstract Picasso Style. The Spirals in the back are Picasso Style hair curls. The sorta hourglass or figure 8 is the Picasso Style Ear. The Cross on top can indeed be the sun, or a Picasso Style Sun beating down on the head. Im a visual Artist, so I know about Stylizing drawings.
Possibly.
Now I can't help but see them as giant lego heads!
@@fearlessjoebanzai yes!
Nope
They’re not spirals they are a circle within a circle within a circle,it couldn’t be in the style of Picasso because it was five thousand years before him, Picasso isn’t from very long ago he died recently 1973
There is similarities within everything and all of these designs the cross the figure 8 the circles etc
So early on in time, could not the ' cross" shape thing just represent the four directions; North, South, East, and West, as the rising and setting of the sun and the directions of the Southern winds were important on where to place the door to dwellings?
It's quite a commonly found symbol - and is thought to just represent the sun. I'm not sure what significance the north and south would have in a late neolithic culture, if any. They were obviously the locations perpendicular to east/west, but not sure they were seen as important as east/west. West and east would be roughly aligned with sunrise and sunset and other celestial aspects appearing/disappearing, but the solstice sunrise/sunsets are actually northeast and northwest. Those specific lines were probably most important to these people. As for door positions, they would have know to avoid south-west winds, just from experience.
@@pwimbledon I totally disagree about avoiding that or any wind direction for doors. In any location, many other things could easily over ride wind consideration. Most places don't even have stable winds.
Also, during solstices, in the northern hemisphere, sunrise and sunset are in the southeast and southwest, not in the northeast and west. I'm not much farther north than they are, but the sun here never enters the northern part of the sky at all, not even in mid summer.
It's the reason why, for my whole life I've avoided living in homes that mostly face north, because they are dark. With the sun being always in the south, I need to have big windows facing south, to catch the little sun we do get.
@@cattymajiv sorry, but that’s just untrue. In the northern hemisphere, at certain latitudes, the sun will get to the point where it is rising and setting north-east and north-west, respectively. Obviously, if you go north enough, it will never set and is visible in the northern sky, for parts of the summer, all day. The sun only rises/sets due east/west for a couple of days a year (the spring/autumn equinoxes) The rest are either south or north of that, depending on the season. In the UK, at the height of summer, is is a north-east sunrise, and a north-west sunset - and at the height of winter, it is the inverse - south-east, south-west. You've got the details completely backward.
@@cattymajiv also, the mention of wind wasn’t really my point - it was the original poster's point. But, if prehistoric people were building houses (not ceremonial structures), and were considering winds and weather, they would have known to have avoided south west facing doors. Generally speaking, on average, the worst weather comes from the southwest.
@@cattymajiv just checked the summer solstice for London. Sun rise is 49 degrees north-east, sun set is 311 degrees north-west. Almost exactly due north-east and due north-west. And that is London - Yorkshire is obviously further north than that. Not sure where you live, but you need to look out of the window more, during June.
What's the best guess as to what are the holes in the drums for? Yarn of some sort?
It might seem crazy but with all the detail peoples eyesight must have been very good. Also, the desire to create great detail seems to be a drive to be better than others and to show off your talents or at least be rewarded for talents.
They had the same eyes.....
18:18 … “you’ve got to build bypasses”. 😂😂😂
Until a museum employee steals it and sells it on eBay...
Exactly what i was thinking.
I don't think they put the real ones on display just replicated ones
@@maxp9598it would take more time to create a fake rather than just display the actual thing in a bulletproof glass container, if someone does try to replace it to steal the original it would be found out as a fake really quick and who ever had the real one tried to sell it wouldn’t get far because the buyer will say “it’s not real because the real one is sitting in the museum?” I don’t think anyone will try sell it on eBay😂no one will pay what it’s worth
The museum is guarded has sensors on most glass cameras everywhere even humidity is controlled so they would have a hard time it’s not exactly a random shop😂it’s the worlds largest museum with priceless artefacts I think they have thought about robbery before…
Could someone please tell me what the holes are in these drums and are they hollow
And this is just the stuff that we AREN’T hiding from the public.
That whole concept is so fucking ridiculous that there are no words for it!
What do you think they’re hiding?