Unmarked Graves: The Human Cost Of Ireland's Independence

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  • For some the Anglo-Irish War is viewed through rose tinted glasses, a heroic struggle against an Imperialist monster and the Civil War a brave and honourable attempt to disentangle the country from an ill judged Treaty that did not deliver on the nation’s aspirations. But there is a much darker story to be told of the often innocent men shot as spies and made to disappear. In The Name of the Republic is a two part documentary series following eminent Historian, Professor Eunan O’Halpin as he explores this dark side of Irish republicanism. At the spine of the story is a dig at one of the burial sites which Tile Films have exclusive access to.
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ความคิดเห็น • 348

  • @vespelian
    @vespelian ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The mark of a nation's maturity is the point where it has the courage to question its foundation myths.

    • @mijicmugendo
      @mijicmugendo ปีที่แล้ว

      The British are still lying about theirs

    • @vespelian
      @vespelian ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mijicmugendo All nations do it.

    • @DarrenMalin
      @DarrenMalin ปีที่แล้ว

      many of us have been around to 1,000's of years.

  • @BobbyBruce03
    @BobbyBruce03 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My great uncle was Michael Collins. He died and some of the family resides in Wales til this day thanks to our nanna Sarah Collins

    • @theselftaughtspeculator6553
      @theselftaughtspeculator6553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are the descendant of one of irelands greatest men

    • @ccahill2322
      @ccahill2322 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theselftaughtspeculator6553, That is not a statement which stands up to more than a perfunctory examination.

  • @dermotshaw5722
    @dermotshaw5722 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Every fight for independence is an ugly dirty business. Ours was no exception

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @chiragparsoya3754
      @chiragparsoya3754 ปีที่แล้ว

      British are such a propoganda Spreader they are portraying Irish independence some bloody movement .

    • @awedgewood
      @awedgewood ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's ok. It's over. You don't need to go on with the excuses for killing innocents.

    • @sands7779
      @sands7779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People fight for power. Sometimes, it's an obvious power grab e.g. English wars of the Roses. Sometimes, ideology is given as a reason/veneer e.g English civil wars between parlimentarians and royalists.

    • @tomfrazier1103
      @tomfrazier1103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Our own war for Independence in the States saw some of this. In civil conflicts, private grudges are often exercised.

  • @joereilly1519
    @joereilly1519 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    To paraphrase a great philosopher who made the following observation " that he who fights monsters, should take care in fighting them, that he does not become a monster".

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers; but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go. Tom Barry..

    • @rorykinsella8826
      @rorykinsella8826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah i read this , but it seems it was the orther way round , and mr tom barry fits the picture an ex british soldier who tried to hoist the union flag
      on top of a building in bandon.before he became a volunteer, the war of independence was basically a civil backed up on one side by government of the day.

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rorykinsella8826 So, what changed his view of things Rory??

    • @rorykinsella8826
      @rorykinsella8826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Stiofán Ó Firghil who knows ,Thats probably better left to psychologist. as the only person s who went into any mire was Dan breen and his eight men who murdered 2 irish policemen without giving the a chance to surrender

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rorykinsella8826 Seriously?! Brits & Free Staters were all angels you'll be telling me next.. Since you seemed to know Barry so well surprises me you don't know?!

  • @theperfumeconoisseur
    @theperfumeconoisseur ปีที่แล้ว +40

    A guy from Morocco loves the great nation of Ireland.

    • @OldDunollieman
      @OldDunollieman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ireland? Great nation ? Bwahahahahahaha.

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Post-Apoc Space Dolphin Posadist from Uranus ....

    • @billythekid1365
      @billythekid1365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Irish guy here and I love the nation of Morocco, great World Cup. Keep Morocco Moroccan I say..

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @syzygysyzygy8332
    @syzygysyzygy8332 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    If they took the time to post this many ads during the actual revolution it would still be going on today.

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea, they really amped up the ads in the last few months.
      Premium not too bad if you can share a family plan with a few others.. Also supports the channels better than even if you watched every ad.

    • @OldDunollieman
      @OldDunollieman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Use a adblocker lol

    • @alanforde1270
      @alanforde1270 ปีที่แล้ว

      The revolution IS still ongoing today.

    • @Princess69Tiffany
      @Princess69Tiffany ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OldDunollieman xxioooo😅

    • @MagdaleneDivine
      @MagdaleneDivine ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still going actually

  • @appellokathy
    @appellokathy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both sides committed atrocities, as is true in any war, any struggle, which is heartbreaking. Even more so that two denominations progressing Christ have division, distrust etc.. I pray great healing and unity comes to Ireland very soon.

  • @4VaultBoy
    @4VaultBoy ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Britain really was one of the most evil supervillains that everyone forgot about.

    • @fetus2280
      @fetus2280 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure.. Sure it is . I could name off Hundreds of groups and personalities that make them look like saints . Study History and youll see . Start with the ancient World and go from there . The Romans, i would argue, were far more ruthless for over 1000 years . Even tried to quell Britannia , Hadrians wall ring a bell ? How bout what they did to Carthage ? Comparing a country trying to prevent War and uprising within Their Borders is NOT "evil" or "Supervillian" by any stretch . Humans do bad things to each other thats a given, but this isnt one of those times . it was a time when these things had to be dealt with .. ffs lad, these IRA fools were killing CHILDREN, Innocent ones at that . And you say the Empire was/is Evil lol Pol Pot may have a few words for you, Idi Amin too would like to chat about whats evil .

    • @goose8244
      @goose8244 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      We did not forget

    • @g_foggaming2577
      @g_foggaming2577 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@goose8244 Gone, but not forgotten

    • @pogmothoin1342
      @pogmothoin1342 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What do you mean was, they still are.

    • @guymorris6596
      @guymorris6596 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Was ? Britain is a supervillain.

  • @TudorsTigers
    @TudorsTigers ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Outstanding. I look forward to Part 2.

  • @suellendelaney7458
    @suellendelaney7458 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My father was from Clonmel and he would have loved learning about this. His dad was part of the IRA between 1922-1924. I do t know if he knew of these events (he fought his battles in the south)💚

    • @poneill5532
      @poneill5532 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Tipp men always stood there ground ignore the brit trolls and the west brit trolls making comments here.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should be proud

    • @steveharrison-vj6th
      @steveharrison-vj6th 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These comments underline how revolutionary groups have negative elements.

  • @terrencehill7309
    @terrencehill7309 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Such a big piece of history of Ireland 🇮🇪😢🔥

    • @01hZ
      @01hZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Imagine all these people dieing just for a country that is known for alcohol sudocream farming and racism

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@01hZ and what country would you be from?

    • @01hZ
      @01hZ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eoincaomhanach1983 why you wanna be racist? Typical Irish

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@01hZ 🤣🤣🤣 you just seem to have such a big mouth, yet too scared to say your nationality. I will agree there are many Irish people who are racist, personally I’m just curious.

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@01hZ imagine a coward who won't mention his own nationality and accusing someone else of being a racist when he himself uses racial stereotypes against an entire nation... oh the irony.

  • @suzieaustin.5905
    @suzieaustin.5905 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Rest in peace 🕊️🕊️ everyone 🙏🙏

  • @seanochroidheain6687
    @seanochroidheain6687 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    These individual graves are insignificant in comparison to the mass unmarked graves of the Great Famine where the British starved to death 2 million Irish men, women, and children.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely

    • @seanochroidheain6687
      @seanochroidheain6687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok before the Great Famine there were 8 million in Ireland. After the famine there were 4 million. It is estimated that 2 million died in the Great Famine and 2 million are unaccounted for.

    • @seanochroidheain6687
      @seanochroidheain6687 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Denis.Collinseh the so called Irish farmers and traders were yr British aristocrats. The Great Famine was a carefully orchestrated genocide planned in London. Snr Nassau a close advisor to the Brit cabinet stated that 1 million dead would not be enough. The Sunday Times in its editorial stated that they hoped that an Irish man on the river Shannon would be as common as an Indian on the banks of the Manhattan. U people are guilty as sin and yer attempt to wriggle out are like the Nazis denying the Holocaust

  • @eoincaomhanach1983
    @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Priceless that I know some of these people!!

  • @OldDunollieman
    @OldDunollieman ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Time Team would have found 20 bodies in 3 days.

    • @irish1209
      @irish1209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Slap bang! 😂

    • @ChristopherNFP
      @ChristopherNFP ปีที่แล้ว

      And a murder weapon . And an empty beer can .

    • @awedgewood
      @awedgewood ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They'd have also found a Catherdral and a Castle or said "That's what it could be"

  • @jairovasquez598
    @jairovasquez598 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Always excited to learn new things 🔥

  • @esterherschkovich6499
    @esterherschkovich6499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heartbreaking...the disappeared 😕 😪

  • @louislogie2654
    @louislogie2654 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To all the faithfully departed......

  • @marymckinney4043
    @marymckinney4043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So remarkable indeed. 08:22am 29/12/‘22 , Seamus from Ireland

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins7029 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very disappointed about no graves found. But interesting nonetheless. And even today that neighboring farmer wants to remain anonymous. But why? What has he to fear?
    A lot of these may have been personal revenge killings.

  • @DennnisTheGreat
    @DennnisTheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My family was in America during this time supporting the IRA silently with Financing If my parent and Grandparents Knew this They'd of done something quite different.

  • @jamesodonohue703
    @jamesodonohue703 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was it not that all atrocities were put aside to enable the new State to move forward and not get involved in Court cases that would last forever and continue the hatred and division between the people

  • @1mmickk
    @1mmickk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went to the South, they said why did you come here, I said I cant come all this way and not see you. They said dont go to the North, they are all mad.
    I went to the North, why did you come they asked me, I said I cant come all this way and not see you.
    They said dont go to the South, they are all mad down there.
    Lovely people all of them.
    Religion is a Menace.

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting documentary

  • @jamesbarry1673
    @jamesbarry1673 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Old sins cast Long shadows.........

  • @maryexton7929
    @maryexton7929 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video and others about Irish history gets me aching in my heart.
    I have never been to Ireland but it calls to me as if I need to go home. It must be genetic memory or something like it. I have no other explanation for this feeling of nostalgia. I wonder if there are other Irish descendants who experience this tug on the heart.
    My great great grandparents, Matthew "Mattie" and Catherine "Katie" (Timmins) Hanihan came to the US during the Irish potato famine. He arrived in 1848 and she followed in 1849).
    He was a blacksmith and found work with the railroad. They lived in Ohio, and around 1854, moved to Pennsylvania. He later died from consumption and she raised their five children alone in Leechburg, PA. I cannot find Matthew's grave in Pennsylvania or any record of where it may be. I had given up on finding Catherine's grave in St. Catherine's Catholic Cemetery near Leechburg, Allegheny Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, and was walking back to my car, when there it was in front of me; "Catherine T. Hanihan" 1823 - 1907". There is a four-leaf clover engraved by her name. It was a rather eerie moment as if she was saying "Here I am."
    I often think about who they left behind in Ireland and what became of them.

    • @JohnDavies-cn3ro
      @JohnDavies-cn3ro ปีที่แล้ว

      Your opening paragraph resonates with me, Mary. As far as I know there is no Irish blood in my history - I'm half Welsh (father) and half Staffordshire English (mother.) But I recently discovered that my mother's maiden name, Shelley, has Irish connections. Her ancestors, roundly Staffordshire people from Little Haywood and the surrounding area can be traced back to 1760. So was there an Irish connection back before that, say around 1680 or earlier? I'll never know, but Erin go Bragh!

    • @michellebaker6302
      @michellebaker6302 ปีที่แล้ว

      I visited Ireland for the first time in 2018 aged 32 and of course was filming as we came in to land in Dublin. You can hear me say to my mom, "This feels like a homecoming." My grandmother was of 100% Irish descent and very proud to have come from refugees of the Hunger. (My great-times-three-grandmother was the sole survivor in her family; the rest perished and she made it to North America.) I was raised to know this and embrace that part of my heritage, which was of interest given the other three of my four grandparents all came from people here in the US since before it was even the US, still a British colony. So the grandmother whose family came from Ireland to flee the Hunger was the only "recent" movement of my ancestors and thus much easier to research. Anyway, it was a comment that wasn't something I thought of ahead of time, but coming to Irish soil felt like a "full circle" moment for sure! My ancestors escaped through no real choice or desire to leave Ireland and now here was their granddaughter coming back "home."
      So while of course I cannot speak for all Irish descendants, I do have the "tug on the heart" you mention. It was an overwhelming feeling when I first stepped off that plane and I felt more at home than anywhere else. I've been to England where my lineage largely comes from and it's not at all the same. Ireland is special! It's not just a "feeling," either, not a grabbing of heritage or culture, it's something I've spent years learning about and coming to understand as well as someone can understand a country they haven't grown up living in. The people, the history, the spirit, Ireland is a place unlike any other!

  • @KingDavidProject
    @KingDavidProject ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have still been fighting this war as a culture/media war, not a war with bullets like my ancestors did. I promote awareness of Irish civilization and try to get Irish people out from the shadow of the Anglo race. Anyone want to help, let me know.

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the best ways is to learn & promote the Irish language, the very best of luck in your endeavours mó chara.. 🇮🇪

    • @KingDavidProject
      @KingDavidProject ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I know that one. I was learning it myself years ago. Click the K to get to my show and you hear me at least letting people know there is an Irish language.

    • @billythekid1365
      @billythekid1365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now Ireland is being devoured by the shadow of globohomo & the NGO sector IMO

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KingDavidProject Did that K.D.P, subbed too.. 👍

    • @awedgewood
      @awedgewood ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not the best video to add the comment to.

  • @AnEnemy100
    @AnEnemy100 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I once complained to a family friend that what I considered a potentially legitimate political organisation looked like it was degrading into a mafia. It was coolly received.
    I’m reminded of this by the sequence at 17:30
    Those at the beginning are principled idealists but once the ball is in motion a different sort comes into the movement.
    I should add that this was not in Ireland but there are parallels.

  • @1969JohnnyM
    @1969JohnnyM 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny how its spoken about when thousands of Irish people in the north were deserted by some in the south.

  • @jojokeavy2835
    @jojokeavy2835 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Part 2 will be very Interesting..
    Trust Me 🇮🇪.

  • @Baskerville22
    @Baskerville22 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew rom the start that the search on the farm would turn out to be another "Al Capone's safe"

  • @kdog543
    @kdog543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't even know much about this part of Ireland history and the struggles and deaths so many civilians and others not only a fight for independence but a civil war at the same time jeeze wizz. For I'm mixed mutt or proud American guy with sum Irish ancestry besides other countries but I miss old days of Ireland that's lost and gone where there was once ancient forest that's gone today such times when Julius caesar times and when Jesus lived upon the world I don't even know exactly but some history the monarch ordered ship buildings and for war from Britain days other say for human development and herdings and farmlands caused the lost of those special ancient mossy forests that once existed..🍷👑🗡🦅🦁🦝🐍🇺🇸

  • @magmiksch987
    @magmiksch987 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    give Ireland back to the Irish

    • @brad5426
      @brad5426 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Already done mate

    • @peterbr3736
      @peterbr3736 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thecoexistingrepublican6 because it has a British majority

    • @meme4one
      @meme4one ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thecoexistingrepublican6 they are British people now who want in the most part, to be part of the UK.

    • @brad5426
      @brad5426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thecoexistingrepublican6 like I said, already done

    • @peterbr3736
      @peterbr3736 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thecoexistingrepublican6 So you are saying "Go back to where you come from". Pretty much the definition of a racist. They have lived for many generations, it IS their land and their choice of identity.

  • @TheXTBoi
    @TheXTBoi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will historyhits post part 2? Would be really great if they did, but I suppose they were advertising for a reason.

  • @podgemuller
    @podgemuller ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Eire 32

  • @johnroche7541
    @johnroche7541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The historian omits the fact that when the body of suspected informer Thomas Kirby was found in 1990 in Co.Tipperary there was a British military cap with the regimental badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment also in the grave. The Lincolnshire Regiment were deployed in Co.Tipperary during the conflict. The discovery of the body obviously made headlines in 1990. Check out the coverage in the papers at both local level in Co.Tipperary and national level and both confirm the badge of the Lincolnshire Regiment was on a British military cap in the grave. Leaving out facts gives a whole different angle to the narrative especially historians and academics with a political agenda.

  • @Packyboy
    @Packyboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the intro to this program and I quote “some of the victims we don’t know their names and we don’t know where they were buried “. after hearing that I have to wonder what’s the point of the program .

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      True and being an Irish documentary it sure makes the Irish their war of independence freedom look bad to say the least therefore what was the purpose of this documentary

  • @OutsideTheColony
    @OutsideTheColony ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here is another version of Irish history from Irish Travellers' perspective, and it's a lot different from Settled State version of history. th-cam.com/video/DLStM39Qc1s/w-d-xo.html

  • @Leogx13
    @Leogx13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “We are made tough. We are made of steel. So I have no doubt the blood in my genes, the Irish blood in me has defined stood me. My family’s lineage, we are warriors”.

    • @billythekid1365
      @billythekid1365 ปีที่แล้ว

      Careful, you very well could be in danger of being called racist talking like that..
      Just kidding! 😁

    • @1mmickk
      @1mmickk ปีที่แล้ว

      Ireland being pretty much Neutral, is a wonderful thing.
      When there is another terrible World War, I will be glad to know the Irish, if they fight, will be fighting with me as I would not want them fighting against me.

    • @billythekid1365
      @billythekid1365 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1mmickk I hear ya pal I agree

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely

  • @MrLorenzovanmatterho
    @MrLorenzovanmatterho หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every single death was a senseless waste of life, when are Irish nationalists going to start caring about Constable O'Brien?

  • @dngrranger619
    @dngrranger619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the same last name Barry

  • @cherylcallahan5402
    @cherylcallahan5402 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time-Line World History Documantries appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙 🇺🇸Paula*

  • @kdog543
    @kdog543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That one skeleton and skull shows years of trauma and wounds over years of that poor individual life I feel so bad for him and I know how you feel with alot of damages done and bone damage in my lifetime also.🙏 May God and his son Jesus Christ Messiah accepts the outcast, persecuted for thy name sakes dear God and let those live the new life with you in your kingdom my God of my fathers amen. For sum of the human flocks of Earth shall be your people and blessed by your grace and goodness dear God.🙏

    • @kdog543
      @kdog543 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you had cartel mob in Ireland killings of ones even innocent people and then British crown killing them off too at the same time IRA doing the same doesn't even give civilians populations any hope or anything to be trusted poor peoples I feel it and the disparity of no hope or helplessness towards anything. Only God to be trusted and help of those times for God very merciful and full of grace and love towards ones that are meek and trust in him above for this world lays in evil and darkness and more evils in the world than good God told me before times and not how he designed it but ways of cruelty and curruptors of people🙏☁️🦁🍷👑🗡🦅

  • @ComradeDt
    @ComradeDt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You people would call slave rebellions atrocities

  • @jimtom4878
    @jimtom4878 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:20 wouldn't make me lose sleep

  • @elizabethpiveronus3359
    @elizabethpiveronus3359 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am proud to say I have Irish blood just found out

    • @elizabethpiveronus3359
      @elizabethpiveronus3359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thecoexistingrepublican6 maybe cause I'm mostly British

    • @elizabethpiveronus3359
      @elizabethpiveronus3359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And MAGA Patriot

    • @montagreloaded7586
      @montagreloaded7586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Plastic Paddy

    • @tonymurray814
      @tonymurray814 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elizabethpiveronus3359 As an Irishman u just ruined it by saying ur a Maga Mutant!

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@montagreloaded7586 if you are going to use that term get it right, its plastic paddy.

  • @pogmothoin1342
    @pogmothoin1342 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Should be called, "The Cost of British Genocide "

  • @Antoward
    @Antoward 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In war people die my own grandfather as a five year old child in 1920 while running from the Black and Tans who were shooting up hogan place in Dublin slipped getting over a railing it impaled him the tans stopped and laughed at him while my great grandmother tried to get him down it happened outside there front door.my great grandfather was a Sargent major in the British army fought all over the world he went awol and joined the volunteers war is not black and white.

  • @patrickmoore3717
    @patrickmoore3717 ปีที่แล้ว

    Geoffrey Compton captain nairac whats the difference they haven't found him yet

  • @2brokeToBeWoke
    @2brokeToBeWoke ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He finds the body's three different times at three different locations and puts them in the ground and dosen't tell the cops.... sounds like he's an accomplice at this point...lol

    • @OldDunollieman
      @OldDunollieman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody ever proved he found corpses he might have been just another BS'er.

    • @steveoconnor7069
      @steveoconnor7069 ปีที่แล้ว

      He could've been making it up or at the time he might have been afraid. Just reporting the presence of bodies might have been construed as cooperation with the RIC.

    • @2brokeToBeWoke
      @2brokeToBeWoke ปีที่แล้ว

      True... Screwed if you do. Screwed if you don't.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @johnroche7541
      @johnroche7541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was some British soldiers that were captured and executed by the IRA. After the conflict the British government coldly did not show much interest in finding their bodies to repatriate them. When some British soldiers were found by farmers in the years afterwards they were repatriated to the UK. Two soldiers from the East Lancashire Regiment were executed by the IRA in April 1921 near Killarney,Co.Kerry. Their bodies were found in 1927 and returned to the UK. A soldier from the Royal Scots(Lothian Regiment) was executed by the IRA in October 1920 in Co.Clare.His crude grave was marked and locals knew it's location for generations. His body was repatriated back to Scotland only a few years ago and given a Commonwealth War Graves Commission headstone. His family came to Co.Clare. The "Nationwide" programme on Irish TV (RTE) made a programme about this particular soldier. There was 3 bandboys from the Manchester Regiment that were captured and executed in June 1921. Their bodies were returned after one of the fathers of the boys who was Irish came from Manchester to Ireland to locate them. They were like the other aforementioned soldiers given military funerals. There is some British soldiers that went missing that I have identified that were actually genuine deserters that went missing but turn up later in the UK. Thank goodness for "Ancestry". Some executed Brtish soldiers are still not recovered. I have it on good authority that some missing Crown Forces are actually buried in what is now Cork airport and surrounding grounds. The body of a British soldier executed in June 1921 in Co.Sligo was found by a farmer in the 1960's and buried locally. The body of a buried man was found in Co.Tipperary 1990 and there was a cap badge from Lincolnshire Regiment in the grave. As one can imagine the discovery of these bodies made headlines in the local papers of the respective counties where the bodies were found.

  • @chamilajla
    @chamilajla ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I cried when I heard about 'Potato Famine'. So brutal.

    • @youtubehatesus2651
      @youtubehatesus2651 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this video is very interesting: "The Great Irish Famine - documentary (1996)". Find on youtube

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was a genocide, not a famine when boat's full of food we're leaving Ireland at British gun point..

    • @awedgewood
      @awedgewood ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@stiofanofirghil1916 You mean food was being sold by Irish farmers to the highest bidder. Who was the "genocide" aimed at?

    • @stiofanofirghil1916
      @stiofanofirghil1916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@awedgewood So why did the British have all those army regiments taking food from a starving nation.. British government, & their Laissez-faire
      policies.. Those "Irish farmers", were British landlords.. All aimed at starving the Gaelic poor..

    • @awedgewood
      @awedgewood ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stiofanofirghil1916 Of course they were British. The irish were British at that point. The Irish farmers weren't a charity.

  • @charliesmith_
    @charliesmith_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    era of marxism

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Era of a fight from freedom from imperialistic England

  • @MachaMongRuad
    @MachaMongRuad ปีที่แล้ว

    My local chapter of the Ancient Order of Hibernians is named for Kevin Barry 💜

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Roman Catholic priesthood comes out of this very badly. Priests attended the victims of at least three of the named killings mentioned here but there is no evidence offered of any attempt to intercede for their lives.

    • @airplayn
      @airplayn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You expect all those pedophiles to have any sense of morality?

    • @markaxworthy2508
      @markaxworthy2508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@airplayn Please stick to the subject and air your opinions on paedophilia in the Catholic Church somewhere more appropriate.

    • @airplayn
      @airplayn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markaxworthy2508 You are the one that first brought up the subject of the priests moral failure by doing nothing to stop the murders they witnessed and so were complicit in them by not turning the murderers in. So take your own advice and stick to the subject yourself and don't be a judgmental hypocrite. JEEZ! And even my pedophilia comment was again made in response to your own criticism of the priests' failure in their moral obligation. I was actually 'supporting' your argument by pointing out that even in modern times and without the emotionally charged venue of violent revolution Catholic clergy have not been on the moral high ground. Just as demonstrated in this investigation, in the present they still fail miserably to set a moral standard of behavior and then hide behind their frocks, protected by an institution that "preaches" a higher purpose and morality. Again you are a hypocrite ... so you can just bite me! (Just like the priest did to me when I was an innocent catholic child)
      I also notice my comment got as many likes as yours, so others seem to think it was an appropriate response in the context of your own comment criticizing the priests' roll. Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does.

    • @markaxworthy2508
      @markaxworthy2508 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@airplayn There is a clear difference between my comment and yours. Mine was directly related to the video above, its content and the killings of the early 1920s.
      If you can demonstrate that your comment on paedophilia has a clear connection with the video above, its content, or the killings of the early 1920s, please demonstrate it below.
      Well? Over to you.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point

  • @SSTE4858
    @SSTE4858 ปีที่แล้ว

    And??

  • @jackleonard575
    @jackleonard575 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    • @kerrylim6058
      @kerrylim6058 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @erikreddington461
      @erikreddington461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I paid Brian to sleep with my wife while I watched and earned 11k a month as a result!

    • @johnmcbride2073
      @johnmcbride2073 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sold my house and invested it all with Jack Leonard .. I lost it all and now sleep on a park bench but Mr. Leonard assures me that I'll soon have a large mansion and drive a Ferrari . I hope so as it's Bloody cold in this park

  • @titopuente6149
    @titopuente6149 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cyril Macduff 😅

  • @chadromanowski2408
    @chadromanowski2408 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Major Geoffrey Compton Smith was a commander of the black and tans. A pretty brutal repressive part of the British army. This piece doesn't mention that. I am a great admirer of the British and their history, but there history in Ireland is not an admirable one. The famine was as much a man made catastrophe as well as a natural born one. That was a dark time that shouldn't be glossed over.

    • @suzannehaigh4281
      @suzannehaigh4281 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man made? Why was Scotland and Western England starving at the same time then?

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@suzannehaigh4281 : A good many Irish were dependent on potatoes. The Welsh and Scots were not. Relief efforts from Britain were token at best repressive laws and restrictions by the British were shameful in Ireland

    • @punchy1325
      @punchy1325 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@suzannehaigh4281 ask your royal family

    • @terrywuckfit3393
      @terrywuckfit3393 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.

    • @terrywuckfit3393
      @terrywuckfit3393 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chad Romanowski No he wasn't. You might want to look up what Richard Mulcahy said about him. Also the effect his murder had on Michael Collins.Instead of smearing someone with a ludicrous accusation.

  • @Valhalla88888
    @Valhalla88888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James Connolly a true born Scot but had the blood to fight against injustice 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @Valhalla88888
      @Valhalla88888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Welsh Prime Minister Lloyd George was a disgrace

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

  • @lovelyjanuary
    @lovelyjanuary ปีที่แล้ว

    In the first minute the narrator has to concede that in fact some of the people they captured and were “innocent” casualties were actually in fact spies for the British 🤷🏻‍♀️😵‍💫. So, you mix that in with the inevitably terrible consequence of innocent civilians suffering on both sides throughout any war that has ever been fought (and often for much less noble causes such as the freedom of the indigenous population which this inherently was a war over) and somehow try to make it into a “yea, but these guys were bad too” narrative that muddies the waters even from the very beginning? I would rather see an openly honest portrayal of the history without the need for such narrative bias and intermingling of the various different unique stories and accounts into one overly simplistic narrative, and make as a viewer my own judgment from there rather than it being “spoon fed” to me intentionally for a particular intended result on the part of the production and narrators, but that is my personal preference. As I am already aware that war is atrocious and there are hardly often any “clean hands” to come out of such pain and suffering that fighting entails and war creates, I hardly need someone else to try to tell me who “the good guys and the bad guys” supposedly really were, as if it’s that black and white or simplistic of a sweeping conclusion to make- especially in this conflict and with such a LONG historical nuanced past underlying it’s very rocky foundation from the start.

  • @jazzyboop2065
    @jazzyboop2065 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m trying to understand what happened to my comment. Is it because I’m a “Black” woman and I understood why the IRA did what they felt was necessary?? Wow

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe what you said went against TH-cams community standards.

    • @jazzyboop2065
      @jazzyboop2065 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eoincaomhanach1983 I don’t know. I don’t recall saying much. I didn’t curse, or be rude, or vulgar with what I stated. So, I don’t have a clue why it was removed. Does every channel have a different set of rules??

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jazzyboop2065 anything is possible.

    • @1mmickk
      @1mmickk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jazzyboop2065 It does that, you need to log off, log in again and wait a day or so and then repost. It just does it at random to millions of people every day.

    • @westsaxon
      @westsaxon ปีที่แล้ว

      That must be the only answer.

  • @1vigorousdragon
    @1vigorousdragon ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's not talk about the Thousands of Irish who were executed or disappeared of flimsy or non existent evidence.
    The Irish were at war , War is never black and white.
    How about some balance.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely the historian here eunan 0 halpin shows no balance like he doesn't really his brave great uncle soldiers doesn't mention one Kevin Barry was only 18 when he was hanged a famous song about him sung by famous people like Lenard Cohen Paul robeson etc it was a war of independence and specifically a guerrilla war a spy informer could cause devastating damage to the Irish soldiers life and death decisions had to be quicky made in this bias view 0 halpin should of mentioned most were spies also showing British atrocities on civilians would of been just

    • @johnroche7541
      @johnroche7541 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@seanohare5488O'Halpin is a relation of Kevin Barry. One of the 3 soldiers from the Duke of Wellington Regiment killed in the ambush on 22nd September 1920 in Dublin city which Kevin Barry took part in was only 15 and two weeks short of his 16th birthday. Patrick Deasy a 16 year old IRA Volunteer was KIA on 28th November 1920 during the Kilmichael Ambush,Co.Cork . On 31st May 1921 in Youghal,Co.Cork the IRA used an IED to ambush the band of the Hampshire Regiment and killed 7 soldiers of which 3 were teenagers ranging in ages of 14 to 16 and wounded 20. In June 3 bandboys of the Manchester Regiment were abducted and killed by the IRA. Young Irish teenagers were both killed and wounded by the Crown Forces during the conflict.

  • @airplayn
    @airplayn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's one thing to research ancient graves or very recent atrocities, but what is gained by making scurrilous accusations and reopening wounds time has mostly healed? I can understand why you were denied access to government records for this "research". Revolutions are messy, especially after a long, cruel and bitter struggle when emotions run high. The religious element in the Irish situation made it even more nasty. However, even the American revolution against English oppression no doubt had many "disappeared" from both sides, only modern records and relatively contemporary investigations make this type of accounting possible. The ultimate blame is on the English oppressors for these deaths, including the decimation of Irish populations due to the English overlords stealing Irish grain leading to the over dependence of mono-culture potato and the resulting famine. The Irish population has not recovered from that tragedy even to this day.

    • @1mmickk
      @1mmickk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look at the presenters face, hes got the brace and bits with the world. I assume he lost family members, that he knew or were killed before he was born.
      Doesnt matter when it comes to religious hatred.
      Hes got a lot of hate in him, the video is full of hate.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree

    • @airplayn
      @airplayn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vatsal7640 wow, you don't read with very good comprehension and then make sweeping erroneous and very cynical assumptions on too little data. AND you obviously fell asleep during American history class. I wasn't talking about the way Irish were treated IN England. I was referring to the way the English treated the Irish in their own country when it was controlled by the English.

  • @bailey_the_choco3289
    @bailey_the_choco3289 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    english never paid for their crimes not only on Irish .

  • @shane-irish
    @shane-irish ปีที่แล้ว

    😥😥😥

  • @audreyann1975
    @audreyann1975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Nana, born in 1910, did not like the British.

    • @williamwallace4924
      @williamwallace4924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was she racist. Why did she not like the Scottish Welsh and English people, They all weren’t involved in political madness.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too

  • @chiragparsoya3754
    @chiragparsoya3754 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow propoganda Channel Of British Government!

    • @AlecFlackie
      @AlecFlackie ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously touched a nerve with you. There was nothing glorious about the 'glorious struggle' on either side.

    • @eoincaomhanach1983
      @eoincaomhanach1983 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Umm.... the presenter is Irish, and is quite accurate, the IRA aren't as glorious as many Irish men and women would like to believe.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eunan 0 halpin a lacky a troll

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว

    🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

  • @lee111000
    @lee111000 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE BRITS MUST GO AT SOME POINT IN TIME

  • @cranso1916
    @cranso1916 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6 counties still under British rule. Proper independence will come

  • @elizabethhurtado2829
    @elizabethhurtado2829 ปีที่แล้ว

    💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

  • @KangaKucha
    @KangaKucha ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Guys your gonna hate me for this but I wish United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland still existed (be even better if it were United Republics instead eh?). Sorry mates but I understand why they rebeled and made independence after so much oppression then and still in NI. Have a go if you must but be gentle please...

    • @shart4429
      @shart4429 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ireland should be free , ALL of it. It's colonialism in modern times. But it goes much much deeper than just being its own country.

    • @seanglynn5415
      @seanglynn5415 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What's the rationale behind your wish? Besides the fancy name you've come up with?

    • @brad5426
      @brad5426 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Asking the irish to be "gentle" ahah, you would have an easier time drawing blood from a stone.

    • @seanm2511
      @seanm2511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well "mate" we all have hopes. Mine is that the "United Kingdom" can f* right off.

    • @KangaKucha
      @KangaKucha ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@seanglynn5415 it's just my point of view but at least I'm Republican eh? ;p

  • @niallkelly2990
    @niallkelly2990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now bring on all the paddies giving out about how the British were all while speaking english, loves a British football club more than their own local club's, why do the irish accept so much British midea be it TV shows or news, the biggest issue iv noticed about most Irish people is they refuse to be Irish basically most Irish are British in all way's bar a passport

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the British Irish

    • @themickeyslipper_brianoconnor
      @themickeyslipper_brianoconnor ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and sadam Hussain liked Doritos and snickers. Your point isn’t a good one

    • @niallkelly2990
      @niallkelly2990 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themickeyslipper_brianoconnor still spoke Iraqi didn't he....Gan teanga, gan cultúr a chara

    • @themickeyslipper_brianoconnor
      @themickeyslipper_brianoconnor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@niallkelly2990 Tá an teanga fós anseo agus freisin an cultúr, mo chara. Labhair ar do shon féin

  • @TingTingalingy
    @TingTingalingy ปีที่แล้ว

    I pity the Irish that fell for the socialist lies of the IRA.

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Irish like in all countries throui history fought for the freedom from their oppressors

  • @williamsteele1409
    @williamsteele1409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    informers /collaborators are the reason the brits are still in Ireland

    • @TheScaryTruthCatalyst
      @TheScaryTruthCatalyst ปีที่แล้ว

      If your sitting anywhere south of Down, Armagh or Fermanagh you can STFU about the Troubles...

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @arthurgoodness7865
      @arthurgoodness7865 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheScaryTruthCatalyst and if you are sitting anywhere north of Monaghan, Louth, Cavan and Leitrim, you can forget about a UI.

  • @me5atworld
    @me5atworld ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This one's boring..

    • @sen4403
      @sen4403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who asked?

    • @henwen6080
      @henwen6080 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sen4403 Who asked? My wife that is whom!

    • @henwen6080
      @henwen6080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you find this boring you may like spotlight on the troubles series the 7 episodes in my documentary playlist

    • @seanohare5488
      @seanohare5488 ปีที่แล้ว

      True and obviously bias