TTWT Visits to See My Unique Tractor Use! How to Install an Underground Dog Fence w/ Garden Tractor
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- Installing an in ground dog fence with @TractorTimewithTim. Tim visits to check out my homemade cable installer that is mounted to my John Deere 318 garden tractor. We then proceed to install an underground dog fence for a family member of mine.
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Ok, Neil…I’m incredibly disappointed! I spent a LONG TIME attached to the shovel and rake, and you got almost NO video of it!
What a wasted effort!!! :-)
Loved the video, and had a great time on the project.
Hey, I can vouch for ya Tim. I didn't want to ruin your reputation as the tractor man! No, you were a tremendous help on the labor side of things. Surprisingly we didn't get much video of the manual work you were doing. Thanks again for the visit and assistance. Good, clean, tractor fun!
Awesome collaboration! Its like you guys have worked together for years! Thats skill and craftsmanship at its finest! Only issue I saw was a Honda being used as a pickup... lol!
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nice job Neil, your welcome to come by and help with mine...:)
Haha! I could go back on the road and start up my "Good Dog" business again!
Neil, rewatched again and have an even greater appreciation for you and your channel. Your storytelling, editing, then your attention to detail, ability to communicate..... And yes the that driveway is at it's best here. You were teaching the great Tim from Tractor Time, this was amazing sir! Kudos and hats off to you!
Thanks again!
This is a great idea, I’m going to keep it in mind for POE camera installs.
You sir are simply AMAZING! Hands down the best!
I bought a wireless perimeter fence for a dog but hadn't placed flags or put the collar on him to begin training. 2 weeks later, he crossed the highway about 200 yards in front of the house and got hit by a car. When we got our new pup in December, as soon as he was big enough, we started training. He knows the perimeter well and the only way we can get him to leave it is on a leash or in a vehicle. Dogs are the best.
What a great project, the wired system has several advantages over the system I have, and the tools you've devised are brilliant. Nicely done.
Sorry about your first dog Curt. Glad it's working now. Dogs are the best kind of company!!
from the Netherlands thanks for the video Neil and Tim & Cristy
Thanks Hollandduck!
I took the mold board off my plow and ran the coulter. I wanted to try an anhydrous knife, but didn't have that patience to fab it up. Good to know it works. Good work Neil!
Appreciate it Tony!
Great job thank you love your videos
Another fabulous video. You have a great system there. Hello Kitty 🐈!!
Thanks Greg! "Good Dog" will always be "Hello Kitty" to you 😊
All I can say is it's a darn good thing I don't live next to either one of you. We would constantly be inventing ways to use the tractors. Neil I have done the exact same thing except I used a ripper from Heavy Hitch and some 1 inch rigid pipe and installed tubing for a sprinkler system. With the exact same technique including driving over the trench to push it back down, amazing how well that works. Love the ingenuity. Happy fathers day Neil & Tim. Another great video!
Happy Father's Day Stephen!
I used a similar device that I constructed on the back of my 1968 Cub Cadet to bury over 1000 feet of plastic pipe for a underground sprinkler system in my yard. Just dug a hole where each sprinkler would be and pulled the pipe from one hole to another. You could move the pipe back and forth for adjustment until you stepped on the trench in one spot. That's all it took to keep from moving the pipe. When finished just drive over the trench to flatten out the ground and you're done. This happened in the mid '70s and I still have and use that Cub Cadet to mow grass every week. Also have a 1969 JD 140 with a Johnson front end loader on it. At almost 80 I don't carry anything any more. What great machines they are, still going after over 50 years.
That's fantastic Doug! Thanks so much for sharing about that Cub Cadet and Deere 140. I've had both and they are great machines. I hope I'm as busy as you sound like you are when I'm almost 80! Appreciate you watching.
Great collaboration with TTWT. I was a sub over there, and just subbed to your channel.
Thanks for coming over and checking it out sir!
Recently subscribed to your channel, I love tractors, dump trucks, firewood, and the satisfaction of doing things myself. Keep up the great work!
We'd get along just fine Andrew!
Good Job Neil! Just watched the first video on TTWT.
Hey Bryan!
@@TractorTimewithTim hey Tim ... good job!
Another good video
Thanks Aaron!
Thanks for the more in depth description on how this works. Great collaboration! (Sorry for you, but I think you are now stuck with me!)
Good choice D A!
Grateful to have you! Thanks so much.
Nice setup. Way easier than what I did. I’ve installed 4 of these systems for myself and friends. Used a bed edger each time. Had to tuck the wire by hand and backfill the trench with a shovel. I also use heavier wire each time. I spliced my wires with a crimp connector and shrink tube over it. Once again great video!
I really appreciate it Gabriel! Thanks for watching.
Clever! I would definitely need the heavily shielded wire for these sharp Ozarks rocks!
This is so timely. I am in the midst of training a new beagle right now. She is two years old and has a few faults that I need to correct:
1: She must have been penned up in her former life. She has no clue about road and streets. She walks right into ours without a thought about getting mashed.
I think her yard or pen must have been close to a road because she pays no attention to loud or speeding vehicles passing within a few yards of her.
B: She follows me wherever I go. That includes when I leave. That’s her opportunity to see the countryside. All of our neighbors have now met her... including the new ones that have never met me!
Third: She is territorial. Anything that comes within her sight gets chased out of the yard. I like that but... she wants them good and gone.
Across the road, through the field and deep into the woods are her preferences for ‘good enough’. I’d really like for her to apply the brakes within the confines of our yard.,
And lastly, there is part D: She is especially fond of chasing deer. The feeder is strategically placed at the edge of our woods so that we can observe it from our screened in porch. It also happens to sit where the porch step provides an elevated platform from which Shasta can observe and launch a chase.
We have cultivated a relationship with 20 generations of deer. As a result, when the timer goes off and the corn drops... any of a dozen or so deer will magically appear beneath the feeder and directly within her line of sight.
And, Nana has declared that I’d better find a means of stopping the deer molestation or, Shasta’s going back to the pound.
I bought a training collar. But, having the remote in my hands at the exact moment that she decides to charge the deer, or other intruder, is tough. Not to mention that it does nothing for her wandering ways when I’m not around or her lack of street smarts.
I’m gonna have my neighbor take a look at this and see if we can’t fab something up to bury a wire!
Thanks Neil... I now have another project on my list!
Oh boy. I've heard that same story several times now, except you tell it so much better!. Believe it or not, 'ole Shasta will mind the fence given the proper training. Is there enough dirt on top to bury it? If you've got really thick, well established grass and can't go in the ground, I've heard of people mowing the grass of short and laying the wire low. Then the grass will grow in over it and basically hold it in place. There are some wireless fence options too that transmit a more regular perimeter from the base unit. But, it would be a lot of fun to rig up your own cable plow with your neighbor; so I vote for that option by far! Plus that would be great video fodder. Good luck with your quest to keep Shasta homebound. Let me know if you have any questions about dog fences!
I built a cable plow for my Bobcat. There is a coulter in front of the plow to part the grass and it is mounted in front of the left tires, so the cut is tamped dow after. Since it is a skid steer, the whole plow assembly pivots like a caster. Other than tire tracks, you wouldn’t know there was a wire buried. Good video
That sounds cool!
Great video Neil. I watched the TTWT episode also. If I might offer a suggestion, if you could rig up some sort of cutter blade directly in front of the knife, I think you would eliminate the occasional ripping of the sod and chunks pulling out. I have something similar to yours with a sharp blade that’s cuts the sod first. Great way to bury any wire!
Nice 316!
Yeah, it has been a great little tractor. Thanks Michael.
This was very interesting and informative! I’ve seen two of these fence’s installed, one with a plow on a Ford 3000 and the other using a chainsaw to trench. Plow method definitely works best. Oh I saw you playing drums on TTWT, I’m impressed! Happy Father’s Day!
Thanks Buddy!
View from TTWT from the Netherlands.. I use a rigid tine with an angle iron on it for bigger irrigation hoses. And to cut the sod open I use a disc. great job 💪🤠
Thanks Eric! Pleasure to have you watching and taking the trip over from TTWT to visit me here. take care!
You can do this afterwards, but as you were walking behind it would be a good idea to use marking paint over the wire. Then the homeowner can take numerous pictures to make finding the wire that much easier if need be.
I have the same setup! I got the idea after watching ATT direct bury some wire to our house. I copied the idea and did our dog fence. Worked great and really fast!
It really is a well functioning tool! Glad to hear yours works just as well! Appreciate you watching!
Just gotta love the older John Deere tractors
Jd 318 jd 420 jd 4200
I love my 318 it’s got a plow a 50inch deck snowblower weights weight rack tire chains and wheel weights and suitcase weights
Oh you know I love 'em William! Best of species!
Before you cover up the splices, test the wire. Will save you some time if you have a bad connection. Also, I'd run 2 wires, so that you have a back up. You never know, a mole might chew through one!! Make them different colors. Great video!
Thanks Jerry! Great tips. Although with the cost of wire it might be a hard sell. Luckily in the 50-75 installations I have done, I have only replaced the wire once. Thanks for watching!
Very good in depth video needed to put the collar on the back of Tim's knee for testing. I put one in 30 years ago yes the wire is weak link
Awesome! That's a good long while for that system. Mines been in 20 years already. Thanks Bob!
i may look into this system if / when we get a new dog. thanks for sharing this information.
Sure thing!
15.15 OH 😅 well turned out to be fine anyway. Great idea btw
My inotek collar just died after 4 yrs and I was able to replace it with a new petsafe head end and collar. I had a moment similar to yours when I fired it up, then realized I had to dial it up to stop the beep. All good. And I didn't have to come borrow the tractor again!
That was a sinking feeling until I realized it! Glad you got yours up and running again Alex!
You could have put the collar on Tim for the test run for more upvotes!
We thought of that after the fact. Man, that would have been great content! Tim said he would have done it too... Dang it!
Yes, it would have tried it!
Great job Neil, You do a great job on your editing!
Thanks!
built one somewhat like to pul in 3/4 black hose for underground sprinklers. built an"frog" to open a slot. did incorporate a rolling coulter. worked quite well!
I've tried the coulter also but it didn't work well when trying to cut sharp curves. Might need to try again.
Lol I did something like that with a much bigger tractor and a box blade. Welded some conduit to the back of the time and just dropped that one time to do the trench. The advantage here is the ability to get really close to fences and buildings by offsetting the blade and the time to one side or the other. Never had any trouble with the small wire size which is good because it's a lot cheaper than the size used here.
Sounds clever and functional! Hey I love your screen name! I'll have a Scout video one day...
Great video and collaboration. I like the idea of using the knife to cut through the sod and feeding the wire with the tube. The only problem on installing a wire on my property, or in the beautiful Granite State (New Hampshire), is the frequent rocks that get in the way. It would take me a day to wrestle with the rocks and go 100’. An edger, point, shovel, mattock and a strong back is the only way to go for me.
Oh boy! Sounds like you've got your work cut out for you! I'm thankful for our Indiana clay then in that respect. Thanks for watching Michael!
I expected something along the lines of a mirrored video to Tim’s. You surprised me with an instructional/informative vid on the fencing. I enjoyed it as I do all your videos. Thanks for something different but still a collaborative effort with Tim and Christy.
Thanks Bob. I really appreciate comments like this. I wanted to make the video different somehow and even explain a little bit how and why I got started doing these. Thanks so much for watching!
@@digdrivediy You publish content than just about anyone else which I find enjoyable. I look forward to each new vid and will continue watching. Yours are a sort of breath of fresh air from others I subscribe to. I like you fun, relaxed manner.
Great Job on fence install, the hardest part I think is training.
Agreed Ron! Gotta follow through on that training!
Awesome 👍👍👍👍
A spring loaded arm(downward force) and a metal wheel coming out behind the plow aways would help compact the soil back down.
I've tried the following wheel. It worked OK but got in the way a lot. Thanks for the great suggestions and appreciate you watching!
Neil we built one almost identical to the one you have but ours has the coulter blade and goes on my Ford utility tractor. I like the idea of using bigger wire. Great video
Thanks Blake. I had a version with a coulter as well. It didn't work great when making sharp turns and tore things up even worse for me. In the long straights it was great though. I'm about 50/50 on it. Thanks so much for watching!
As always, awesome job Neil. I'm actually forwarding this video to my father-in-law, I think he'd like your channel too, he's kind of a McGyver sort of fella too.
Hey thanks so much! I hope your FIL stops by to check it out. Sounds like my kinda guy!
Fantastic video but I've never seen a country dog not know where dinner is served.. lol
Haha. Very true. But I've also seen the country dog hit on the road and that was the problem here.
Yeah that would not be good. I forget about fast roads because I live in the woods out in the boondocks.
AWESOME
Appreciate it Rod.
I gotta try that procedure on growing my own silicone butts.
Ha! *Your results may vary.
Nice setup I should get a 3 point for my 318 you need to get a patent for the wire trencher
Thanks Hunter!
I’ve installed 2 huge dog fences using a similar system- mine uses height adjustable ‘spade’ bit w a roller wheel to feed the wire- this is attached to the chassis w hydro pressure holding up the level of the spade doing the digging.
COOL!
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I wonder if something like a dandelion puller that had been dulled or had its head covered with something softer would be a useful tool to guide and poke down wire, since it has that little groove in it? Love the videos! They really help me relax.
I don't think I've ever seen a dandelion puller? That'd be fun to try out. Thanks so much for watching. Ron!
I have installed two of these at different houses at my first house I used the electric edger and put the wire in the little trench it was a pain in the butt took me all day to do about 800 ft. The second house which I live at now which much easier what I did was cut the grass real low where I was going to put the fence I had to borrow my neighbor's push mower cuz all I have is a riding mower I didn't need that cut that wide, and use landscaping Staples about 4 ft apart keep the wire straight and tart after about 2 months you couldn't find it unless you dug into the ground that's been 12 years ago and I've had no problems with it since the only thing is if you got to go across a gravel driveway do put it through PVC pipe or some type of conduit because the rocks will cut that lightweight wire.
Very true. We use old garden hose for the driveways. Works great!
Neil Koch: Craftiest Cat on the TH-cam’s! Good job pal!
Thanks Jeremy!
I’ve never seen this done! Very clever! I have an English bulldog so we don’t have a need for any kind of fencing but that is very cool! Keep up the great videos! Need to get you to 50k subs then 100k then 1 mil!
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the support. I never thought I'd see 25K subs but now maybe 50 is possible. Thanks again for watching and always commenting. Much appreciated.
I have buried a lot of telephone wire in my lifetime and your little rig works exactly like the drop plows I've used - great job. Just a piece of advice,tho- turn your splices cup down and it will hold the moisture out longer( it works like a cup in water,the air pressure trapped inside makes it work.)
That's a great tip! Thanks, I will use that as I hadn't thought of it working that way. Makes sense. Thanks for watching!
Your timing is impeccable. I am about to have to do this. I asked a couple of farmers last week at the café how I could use my John Deere 770 instead of doing it by hand. The best idea we came up with was a piece of rebar or bolt through a drawbar, lower it to the ground and pull a small trench to stuff the wire in by hand. Since mine will not be that big I may stick with that. However, if you want to pull that thing down to Alabama, we can do a collab!?!?!
Ha! I'd love a trip to Alabama actually, but afraid the calendar is a bit full at the moment. If you're at the table with some farmers you should ask if any of them have some of these mole knives laying around. That would be the thing to pull for sure. I don't know how far you have to go but if it can put the wire in as it cuts it's way better than doing by hand. I'm interested to know how it comes out for you. Good luck with it! Any excuse to use the tractor is a good one!
Any plans you can provide so I can build one of these Neil? Great stuff love the channel both you and Tim.. we watch every video until the end. :)
Loved the throw-back pics of you and Kara, I swear you looked about 12
Haha! I keep saying "the older I get, the younger my wife looks".
12 thumbs down??? Me thinks someone is a tad jealous. Great idea. Ingenious.
Thanks! Yeah, I always wonder about those thumbs down. Can't please everyone I guess. Thanks for the comment.
I had this system before. Dog figured out to get to the warning zone and let the collar vibrate until the battery died then cross safely….. he also figured out that he could run fast enough to cross and would get shocked just on the other side…. Black lab.
Btw i wish i had that knife for outdoor electrical projects. 👍
Some of those dogs were pretty clever. The newer systems won't let them do that anymore because they will time out and shock if they sit too long but I have heard of what you described for sure. Still get the run through sometimes too. This knife sure has been handy over the years. Thanks so much for watching!
I should post video of us pulling pipe for sprinkler systems here in Idaho. We use a Karcher pipe puller
I'll need to look that up. Sounds like something interesting.
Make a set of rollers to bring grass back together then attach to blade extended behind cable.
Not a bad idea Donald. I tried something like that once but it didn't work great. Could try again.
Wait a minute. I thought DUCT TAPE fixed EVERYTHING except STUPID... I guess dirt's as stupid as ROCKS. LOL
Hey Neil, Enjoyed your video and admire your obvious ingenuity in making the attachments for unusual jobs. I am extremely interested in the rear weight system you show on your 318. I have a 445 that I have made a similar attachment for using gym weights. It has several drawbacks that your attachment appears to eliminate. The first and most troublesome is that when I use my weights, I can not have any other attachment on the Cat 0, 3pt Hitch. I would like to be able to tow a trailer, or use my box blade while having the rear end weighted. If you could post a close up of your weight holders I would really appreciate it. I think we have the same or very close to same type of drawbar with the Square D hitch. I would like to copycat your system to improve my tractors capabilities. Thanks, Dave C
I'll try to do that David. The weight holder can be seen in a few of my videos. I'll try to do some close up work of it sometime soon. Or you can email me and I'll send you pictures of it. nkoch1976@gmail.com
Something that would help is a straight disk blade in front of the knife so it cuts the sod and then it won’t drag and tear up grass
Right on. I tried that too. Works great in the straights but I had trouble with it in the curves. If I tried to turn to tight of a curve it would cause more tearing of the grass. Thanks for watching!
I would really be interested in one of these mole knives, with the larger tubes on it for my 1025r. I'm just getting started on learning to weld. Any way you would be interested in crafting one up (for a fee) for a 2" receiver bar and perhaps adjustable to go a bit deeper for the direct bury wires? I've also been thinking about your grading box, seems easier than my box blade for setting a final grade.
That's a great idea to mount it to a hitch insert Brian. I will need to think about that but I could be interested. More of a winter thing for me though when I have a little more free time. Great idea though as you have my wheels turning. The pull type box is fantastic for final grading.
very good instructional video.how long does the wire hold up, it doesn't look like direct burial wire.
Our fence has been in the ground about 18 years and still working. This was direct burial but I know what you mean. The insulation is more rubber based than what typical wire seems to be. So far, so good with it.
Just needs a cutting disc in front and a roller at the back and it’s set
Tried both with limited successes. This is the most trouble free version I've come up with now.
I wonder if something similar could be made for irrigation hose?
Yes, I believe so.
Tim really didn't have much to say 🤔😂
I didn't have him mic'd on my camera. I should have.
Have you ever considered a 420-430 rear end in ur 318?
I often wondered how effective the loops actually are?
Very effective. Sometimes can transmit into the house though so you've gotta watch it.
Neil I have a future project and your ripper gave me an idea. I maintain 3 acres around my property. it is on two corners and everything slopes down to where the ditches meet. My problem is that there is a pretty large flat area but at the very edge for about a hundred feet each direction is rises above that grade about 6" and I want to knock that down and push it into and reshape the ditch. The flat spot hold water and the grass will get out of control really quickly. I have a 1984 Jon Deere 430 Diesel all original with all options sourced and put back on the tractor. I did a partial restore to it a year ago and it is a little pulling beast. In your opinion if I made something similar with box blade rippers how many do you think that 430 would pull 6" deep at a time? I have made a few implements too. something I call a ripper leveler clod buster etc. It is a 6x6 with 1" steal shanks welded to it and cut at a 45 degree angle. I also built my version of a Deere shovel bucket. Tweeked of course. if I ran scarifiers across a hundred foot span and then busted it up with my contraption I think i could push the busted up material to the ditches, I'm just not sure how many the tractor will dig or if I should be thinking single or two bottom plow. My original plan was to buy a 3 point tiller and make top soil a few inches at a time and then push it or scoop it up and move it but I can not find a tiller that is cat o or worn out completely. I would send you some pictures of my tractor and the implements if there were an email on here so you could see what you think.
Hey John. Love the 430's. My Uncle has one and they are a beast. I think you could pull 4 rippers pretty easily but the type of soil really determines how deep you can pull them. I've done something like you describe with my pull type grader box. You can check out the videos on my channel and there are several that show the grader box. It has 4 rippers. I like the plow or tiller idea. That would generate more dirt more quickly most likely. The tillers are hard to find. I have a 3pt Cat 0 tiller but it's a cub cadet. Even if you pulled one or two rippers through it multiple times you could get it loosened up enough to start moving dirt. Good luck with your project! Look for those grader box videos.
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Could a Culter ( the blade from a plow) help from ripping up the grass?
I've tried it before. Worked just OK. Had trouble with the curves getting them to line up properly. It also drove up over roots and kept me from being able to keep the knife in the ground to pull through them sometimes. Might be able to make it work though I just didn't try hard enough. Thanks for watching!
Give Bill seafoam
Tried that one. No go. Bad valves likely.
TAIL ROLLER would be the only improvement i would make
I have tried that too. It would cake up with mud if working in wet grass and then lift the knife out of the ground as the wheel got bigger. Running over with the tractor is good just cause you can inspect the wire and make splices afterwards too.
Skip buying the silicone filled wire nuts. Use Loctite Anaerobic Gasket eliminator in regular wire nuts. They become a permanent weatherproof connection for 1/3 the price.
Good idea. I just like the simplicity is all of reaching into a bag and getting them. Thanks for the tip!
Were tree roots a problem?
Not too bad here. We got through them all without much trouble. They can be a problem but I found a cordless sawzall to be the best line of defense!
Nice work how far are you from GA
Thanks. Quite a ways. We're in Indiana.
@@digdrivediy yeah to far
Great southern Indiana engineering ?
Northern! Northern Indiana :)
Do you want to come to NE Wisconsin to install a fence for me? 😅
I'd love to, but the winter might make it tough... I went to Pennsylvania once.
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fantastic editing.....Great video. (my videos are the polar opposite...but I learn a thing or two from you!_)
Thanks!
Put a disc ahead of your blade to cut the soil and you won't that problem of the grass packing up in front of it . Then if you are real clever you'll put a rolled behind your blade to cover the cut back up . All the while you are walking along side drinking a cold BEER !
That doesn't sound like a bad idea Ken! Thanks for watching.
attach a roller behind it.
I tried something like that once. If the ground is wet at all it balls up on the wheel and starts lifting the knife outta the ground. I took it off.
And how does that work its just a wire in the ground its not a fence?
The wire transmits a radio signal and the collar that the dog wears is the receiver. When the collar picks up the signal of the buried wire it warns the dog with a tone that tells them to retreat and go back in the yard. If they don't obey the warning tone then they will get a mild shock that encourages them to not proceed beyond the wire.
@@digdrivediy But the dog can still escape?
@@zanderhansen9472 When properly trained, they will not escape. Proven reliable on many, many systems. Our dogs never escape and never test their boundaries.
Hey man would you sell me a mole knife ? I’d like to do something similar with my atv and my dog fence
I'm afraid I don't have any to sell.
There are underground dogs? No wonder you'd need a fence for that
They're called ground hogs 🤣
People go just so far on a project then they get brain lock ..Seen it so many times ............
What do you mean Ken? Thanks for watching.
what do i mean ? You built this machine to replace a shovel , now that it is built and installed it ok , But what was not done was to cut the labor units , that didn't happen now you still got to go back and close up the ditch or add another labor unit by having some else do it . To top that off when a lot stuff gets in front of the shank that must be removed , so the job must be stopped to clean that away . So as i see it all that was solved was the speed of laying the cable ....There was 2 more units of labor added ...That is what was meant ,,,Brain lock , that is why products are built , to cut the labor units , here one more was added cleaning out junk in front of the shank as it moved along ...................
Hmm. That's too much thinking for me. All I know is that this is about 50X faster than doing it manually. So, there must be more labor units involved in doing it slowly versus quickly. This job took about 2 hours with the knife and the extra labor units. To do it manually would have taken all weekend. Interesting topic of discussion though for sure. Thanks Ken.