Question. Does shooting Red Bar ads give you more damage applied to bosses and elite targets? Because we do much higher damage to Red bars per shot VS bosses and elites. So would 50% of the damage done to Red bars, shared to other types, be higher damage than just directly shooting bosses/elites? Example being; you shoot a red bar for 28k in the head and 14k is shared to any boss/elite tethered VS shooting boss/elite directly for just like 10k? Or is that not a thing?
Yeah this is the sad thing about D2 "build crafting." There really aren't many unique or unknown builds. Vesper this season was a pleasant surprise and I did find the stasis dance machines mactics posted pretty fun/unique, but builds are so generic compared to other games that have so many more choices.
The reason Wish-Ender generates more super is due to the super changes a few seasons ago. You get your main super by doing Damage, the more you do; the bigger chunks. Because Wish-Ender hits VERY hard, you naturally get a chunk of super, but because of it's 'overpenetration' it hits 3x, meaning 3x the chunks.
wish ender had an unintended interaction with shadowshot causing it to give way to much super, Bungie has fixed this exploit with season 22. "Fixed an issue where the Wish-Ender bow in combination with abilities like Shadowshot was able to generate significantly more Super energy per shot than intended."
Yeah I think it got moved to the Buzzard side-arm lol I was playin round with the new hunter arms and that ult was charging fast as fu******** @@darschpugs4690
Thanks for giving this more attention! This has been one of my favorite builds to run with teams (as a non-hunter main) as it fuels more super usage, which in turn helps ammo preservation and makes more effective use of time when plowing through swarms.
I've been running this since forever. So good. Double ashes to assets. Tether a large group, wait till super gets to 50% or close, toss grenade in the middle of it all, and you'll be close to a full super in seconds.
Thanks for the build, I remember when I first started D2 I was using Orpheus Rig so much and it was my preferred way to play before I took my break during Forsaken. Nice to see a build that will bring it out of my vault again
Great Video, thanks for this! After returning to Destiny after some time away, this build has helped me enjoy using Void allot more than in previous years 👌🏻
I was amazed last week when i tried the same build for the first time, on the disgraced gm i had 2 supers in around 10sec, and the third one shortly after.
The reason wish ender gives that much super energy is because you're technically hitting the same target 3 times so you're getting super energy for each tick.
My favorite exotic finally gets a build. I don't have wish ender unfortunately. I do like this build with Graviton Lance though. Void explosions everywhere.
9:08 I'm pretty sure that this happens because most of the super gains are based on dealing damage and since wish ender deals A LOT of damage and in 3 instances of damage per shot(1 from de arrow entering and 2 when exiting) the game gives you an insane amount of super based on that They'll probably eventually call it a bug and fix it
@Mactics. Bolstering detonation & momentum transfer are both disabled along with impact induction & focusing strike . . .is there a work-a-round/alternative??
This shouldn’t be permanent but some of the mods are disabled at the moment, the notable ones are momentum transfer and bolstering detonation so the build still works fine but it is currently not are its full potential
The 90 mobility, 100 res, 40 disc and 90 int stat distribution is so hard to obtain, this requires your gear to have almost no wasted stats and/or artifice slot. The helmet & class item only has 2 free energy slots after the mods. I would love to see your gear stats on this.
just wanna say, after seeing a few of your builds over the past few days, I really really appreciate that you dont just purely go for ones of "just do this for biggest pp damage" or "no die" builds and been loving the vids for just fun and interesting buildcrafts
Per bungie season 22 patch notes "Fixed an issue where the Wish-Ender bow in combination with abilities like Shadowshot was able to generate significantly more Super energy per shot than intended" Needs to be tested but fairly certain you wont be seeing the insane super generation it has been doing before.
Alright here 10:54 i figured out that you did this video a while ago, because currently the mods 'Momentum Transfer' and 'Bolstering Detonation' are disabled. I'm using 'Grenade Kickstart' and a weapon loader of my choice. I just wanted to ask you and also the community if 'Grenade Kickstart' a good mod is? Or could i literally use anything else and it'll be 100x better?
Even with the disabled mods, I was able to run a GM Nightfall as a 1822 Hunter with some stress but not like before. Having a good team did hurt either!
Oh man... you should have seen how broken those were in year one. In the leviathan calus encounter I was able to get 6 to 10 tethers shot off covering the floor in orbs of light. Those boots used to be so broken using deadfall
Ive ran this build, in the beginning it was good. It was goof for shuro chi farm too. But as i got end game i got squishy. And shifted to gyrfalcons and omnioculous, radiant dance machines.
And interesting thing to test is. Does the damage share the dmg to bosses unscaled ? Seems pretty ludicrous if you were able to get say a bunch of thralls next to a boss and shoot a rocket at the pack and deal like a million times the damage (sorta reminds me of bore lol)
Made this build last night, all I can say is it’s RIDICULOUSLY good. I would defiantly say the Wish Ender is a way better option than Bad JuJu. Also, he’s not joking. every 5 seconds.
I can tell you exactly why Wish-Ender gains so much super energy. You gain super energy when you take and inflict damage and this rate is highest when primary weapons are involved and one of Wish-Ender's exotic perks, Broadhead, makes it damage enemies TWICE, on both entry and exit, and pierce through to hit multiple enemies. You're gaining super energy for each instance of damage that Wish-Ender inflicts, which adds up extremely quickly. Unfortunately, Intellect isn't tied to this mechanic, only to the passive cooldown of your super, so, it's still a very bad stat.
Glad someone else realized this, I hope they keep the mechanic, it's a pretty cool feature and isn't so insanely broken that it trivializes other weapons
Malfeasance is the exact same way, each of those explosions that go off (5 total) gives super energy, and it’s a lot as well. So Im personally running malfeasance with this build and not wish ender, it’s also because I don’t like how wish ender feels imo
i recently shot 5 super in under 6 second in neomuna strike force it's insanely good i run this build for some dps since you can get it back pretty fast aswell ofc the arc hunter build stays on top for ad clear
Im pretty sure the reason why wish ender gives more super energy is because super energy from damage scales with either damage or hits and wish ender hits the enemy twice due to its perk
Thanks for another dope build but huge problem 2 of the mods for the arms are disabled momentum transfer and bolstering detonation what to do bungie has disabled several mods
Forgot how wild Orpheus Rigs can be. Just did a Bonfire Bash and was able to throw a super at every area. Wild. Gonna make the grind to much faster and easier.
@mactics hey I found this hunter Solar assassins cowl build you may wanna check out since it’s one of those builds that aren’t necessarily seasonally strong.
Question, would graviton lance be an appropriate substitute? I know you said you didn't have to use the 2 suggestions but you said as long as it doesn't interfere. Thoughts anyone?
Yes, use it with a void machine gun, you’ll have devour and constant invisibility, and when you pick up a tangle or void orb you’ll get devour, void abilities weaken and make enemies volatile, you’ll get more heavy ammo so more machine gun damage with super. Use either deadfall or shadowshot it makes a minimal difference
Any chance we'll see more of your builds on Mobalytics? I know it was sponsoring a bunch of creators a while back hence seeing builds there but I've grown to actually like searching it for builds across classes. Not an ad comment I swear hah, genuinely use it.
Hey Mactics, I'm a relatively new D2 player (F2P). As a result i cant get access to any of the coloured mods from threats and surges. i was wondering if there are any alternate mods you recommend to replace those in this build or can alot of your builds even work properly without them?
Mods are the key to running this. I know I am not the one you asked, but I am just trying to help you with the question you asked. You can still run the build but won't get the same outcome , your super will take a little bit longer and you won't get the efficient amount of return on killed. Just read all the mods that you do have available and look for super energy on kill or damaging enemies. Good luck and I hope this helps you
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I think you are over doing it and lose believability when you say your jaw dropped...that is very rare
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Question. Does shooting Red Bar ads give you more damage applied to bosses and elite targets? Because we do much higher damage to Red bars per shot VS bosses and elites. So would 50% of the damage done to Red bars, shared to other types, be higher damage than just directly shooting bosses/elites? Example being; you shoot a red bar for 28k in the head and 14k is shared to any boss/elite tethered VS shooting boss/elite directly for just like 10k? Or is that not a thing?
Me knowing full well that im already running this build and still watching the video
Yesssir
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Same, ran this on day one for root of nightmares
Those are the best builds to watch. I still click on every Liars Handshake build I see dispite it being one of the earliest builds made with arc 3.0
Yeah this is the sad thing about D2 "build crafting." There really aren't many unique or unknown builds. Vesper this season was a pleasant surprise and I did find the stasis dance machines mactics posted pretty fun/unique, but builds are so generic compared to other games that have so many more choices.
The reason Wish-Ender generates more super is due to the super changes a few seasons ago. You get your main super by doing Damage, the more you do; the bigger chunks. Because Wish-Ender hits VERY hard, you naturally get a chunk of super, but because of it's 'overpenetration' it hits 3x, meaning 3x the chunks.
I went to the comments to post this but glad someone beat me to it, more people gotta know this fr
Its also one of the few Bows that lets you ADS when hopping around
wish ender had an unintended interaction with shadowshot causing it to give way to much super, Bungie has fixed this exploit with season 22. "Fixed an issue where the Wish-Ender bow in combination with abilities like Shadowshot was able to generate significantly more Super energy per shot than intended."
Yeah I think it got moved to the Buzzard side-arm lol I was playin round with the new hunter arms and that ult was charging fast as fu********
@@darschpugs4690
Would there be another weapon than wishender you could use?
Thanks for giving this more attention! This has been one of my favorite builds to run with teams (as a non-hunter main) as it fuels more super usage, which in turn helps ammo preservation and makes more effective use of time when plowing through swarms.
I still remember the days when Orpheus didn't have a cap and almost always gave full super
Those where wild times
Seriously wild times, so much purple back then. Not so much now.
Reckoning bridge was the true orpheus rig
Wasn't it the same for that blade barrage exotic?
I think so, us hunters really had it good back then!
@@jackalexande Not on the same level, but Shards was quite similar
I've been running this since forever. So good.
Double ashes to assets. Tether a large group, wait till super gets to 50% or close, toss grenade in the middle of it all, and you'll be close to a full super in seconds.
Mactics delivers with yet another S Tier build. Was looking for a build to do GM's on my Hunter and this delivered with a little extra on top. Thanks.
Thanks for the build, I remember when I first started D2 I was using Orpheus Rig so much and it was my preferred way to play before I took my break during Forsaken. Nice to see a build that will bring it out of my vault again
same!
it was so good that it was almost kinda pointless to run anything besides O-rigs, you were making so many orbs that your team could just chain supers
@@soulbot119yeah it’s always gonna be the best build for Hunter’s for raids and nightfalls
I just got my hunter going and now after being able Warlock for 9 years, looking for building thing is looking nuts ❤
Damn Mac, your builds never fail, managed to shoot off 9 deadfalls within 2 minutes today. Thank you so much for your dedication and expert craft.
Been running a similar build on my hunter (I’m a warlock main) and when I’d find a Phoenix protocol warlock those are the smoothest GMs I’ve ever done
Thanks!
yoooo WHAT?! thank you!!!
Idk if this is a new editing style or something but this is awesome
Finally actually caught one of these live
Great Video, thanks for this! After returning to Destiny after some time away, this build has helped me enjoy using Void allot more than in previous years 👌🏻
I love be this build. Thanks for the beautiful presentation of a top-tier Hunter build.
I was amazed last week when i tried the same build for the first time, on the disgraced gm i had 2 supers in around 10sec, and the third one shortly after.
The reason wish ender gives that much super energy is because you're technically hitting the same target 3 times so you're getting super energy for each tick.
Mactics.....The Sommelier of D2. I'm a Meh player but your builds keep the game FUN for me, Thanks
My favorite exotic finally gets a build. I don't have wish ender unfortunately. I do like this build with Graviton Lance though. Void explosions everywhere.
I'm down to help you get it if you need help. Lmk
Yeah Same i dont have the bow 😅
Already used this build for weeks but your explanation is better and more awesome.
This is making the Bonfire runs 10x easier and faster, thank you!
Oh another build from Mactics wonder what this one i "1000% tether build, super every 5 seconds, Orpheus Rigs" NOW YOU"RE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE!
It’s the fragments and the bow man. Wish ender bow is underrated. I use it all the time
9:08 I'm pretty sure that this happens because most of the super gains are based on dealing damage and since wish ender deals A LOT of damage and in 3 instances of damage per shot(1 from de arrow entering and 2 when exiting) the game gives you an insane amount of super based on that
They'll probably eventually call it a bug and fix it
It's been in that game for a while now tho, like I'm not entirely sure but I think it's been in the game before witchqueen could be wrong tho
Deadfall orphious hunter is one of, if not the best thing to bring into GMs. Especially the battlegrounds ones.
@Mactics. Bolstering detonation & momentum transfer are both disabled along with impact induction & focusing strike . . .is there a work-a-round/alternative??
This shouldn’t be permanent but some of the mods are disabled at the moment, the notable ones are momentum transfer and bolstering detonation so the build still works fine but it is currently not are its full potential
Well, forgot the Orpheus Deadfall buff. Thanks for the reminder.
Been using Orpheus rig since year 1 destiny 2 I still have the originals
The 90 mobility, 100 res, 40 disc and 90 int stat distribution is so hard to obtain, this requires your gear to have almost no wasted stats and/or artifice slot. The helmet & class item only has 2 free energy slots after the mods.
I would love to see your gear stats on this.
Been running this build since destiny two dropped
I would love to see how good this would be, cause haven’t used this since the leviathan days
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it’s only really good in high end content. other than that some raids its ok in
just wanna say, after seeing a few of your builds over the past few days, I really really appreciate that you dont just purely go for ones of "just do this for biggest pp damage" or "no die" builds and been loving the vids for just fun and interesting buildcrafts
Per bungie season 22 patch notes "Fixed an issue where the Wish-Ender bow in combination with abilities like Shadowshot was able to generate significantly more Super energy per shot than intended" Needs to be tested but fairly certain you wont be seeing the insane super generation it has been doing before.
Definitely not 😢
The orb generation for this build is nuts
Alright here 10:54 i figured out that you did this video a while ago, because currently the mods 'Momentum Transfer' and 'Bolstering Detonation' are disabled. I'm using 'Grenade Kickstart' and a weapon loader of my choice. I just wanted to ask you and also the community if 'Grenade Kickstart' a good mod is? Or could i literally use anything else and it'll be 100x better?
I switch it up with another firepower mod since the ones we wanna use is disabled
@@That_Ninja_Malik thanks, might be better than Grenade Kickstart. I'll try it out
This build made me sub!
Even with the disabled mods, I was able to run a GM Nightfall as a 1822 Hunter with some stress but not like before. Having a good team did hurt either!
Oh man... you should have seen how broken those were in year one. In the leviathan calus encounter I was able to get 6 to 10 tethers shot off covering the floor in orbs of light. Those boots used to be so broken using deadfall
Still waiting for Bungie to reenable our mods……..
Ive ran this build, in the beginning it was good. It was goof for shuro chi farm too. But as i got end game i got squishy. And shifted to gyrfalcons and omnioculous, radiant dance machines.
So this build made you drop your jaw. When are we gonna get a build that will drop your pants?
As a former Orpheus main, you have a great take on it.
But it was always and will always be my sleeper meta pick for high end content
It was never and still isn’t a sleeper…
And interesting thing to test is. Does the damage share the dmg to bosses unscaled ? Seems pretty ludicrous if you were able to get say a bunch of thralls next to a boss and shoot a rocket at the pack and deal like a million times the damage (sorta reminds me of bore lol)
That build has to be even better with prismatic
My go to build in battle grounds 😁
Great vid!
I’m glad you made this update cuz this disabled some mods that boost grenade/melee energy on grenade kills.
Made this build last night, all I can say is it’s RIDICULOUSLY good. I would defiantly say the Wish Ender is a way better option than Bad JuJu.
Also, he’s not joking. every 5 seconds.
Fond memories of y1 Orpheus on the titan public event where it would do this.
I can tell you exactly why Wish-Ender gains so much super energy. You gain super energy when you take and inflict damage and this rate is highest when primary weapons are involved and one of Wish-Ender's exotic perks, Broadhead, makes it damage enemies TWICE, on both entry and exit, and pierce through to hit multiple enemies. You're gaining super energy for each instance of damage that Wish-Ender inflicts, which adds up extremely quickly. Unfortunately, Intellect isn't tied to this mechanic, only to the passive cooldown of your super, so, it's still a very bad stat.
Glad someone else realized this, I hope they keep the mechanic, it's a pretty cool feature and isn't so insanely broken that it trivializes other weapons
@whimsicalweiner yeah I noticed that too but wish ender just gets so much
Malfeasance is the exact same way, each of those explosions that go off (5 total) gives super energy, and it’s a lot as well. So Im personally running malfeasance with this build and not wish ender, it’s also because I don’t like how wish ender feels imo
this is like og trapper from black armory days sweet!
I use the 4 fragments of Reprisal, Starvation, Instability, and Expulsion.
Guys what are opinions of using ruinous or gravition lance? With this build ofc
i recently shot 5 super in under 6 second in neomuna strike force it's insanely good i run this build for some dps since you can get it back pretty fast aswell ofc the arc hunter build stays on top for ad clear
You can still get it back with shadowshot pretty fast. It uses volatile to link targets instead of the anchors.
I T H I N K what's happening with Wishender's extra super energy has something to do with how the exit wounds are coded.
Can't guarantee that tho.
Im pretty sure the reason why wish ender gives more super energy is because super energy from damage scales with either damage or hits and wish ender hits the enemy twice due to its perk
Been rocking this since last season, in that security room it was insane. Got my super in 3-4 Wishender shots
Bungie after seeing this video: let's nerf sunbracers
Make a build with heart of inmost light on stasis, chefs kiss I promise it’s good
Thanks for another dope build but huge problem 2 of the mods for the arms are disabled momentum transfer and bolstering detonation what to do bungie has disabled several mods
Bungie needs to release the "Mactics" DLC that's another 20 gear presets 😂
The reason Wish Ender generates so much super is because it hits 3 times, so you’re getting super for each hit.
Thank you so much. My hunter was not so good🙏🙏👏👏👏
Graviton lance is an insane weaoon for this build btw
Shiro chi weapon leveling build. Been using this for months. Thought this was a better build
Forgot how wild Orpheus Rigs can be.
Just did a Bonfire Bash and was able to throw a super at every area. Wild. Gonna make the grind to much faster and easier.
@mactics hey I found this hunter Solar assassins cowl build you may wanna check out since it’s one of those builds that aren’t necessarily seasonally strong.
I can’t wait to go home and fuck with this build
Momentum transfer and bolstering detonation are still disabled
strange coincidence i just got my orphius rig an hour ago
Damn it!!! Now gotta get intellect rolled armour!? Hello season 15 lol
It's great... Shame some of the mods have been deactivated!!
We're here to watch builds and video games, not watch commercials.
Shoutout bungie for still not fixing half the arms mods
Don’t get my pantaloons nerfed.
Great build but it’s hard to get double or triple high tier with rng roll the way it is and mods taking up a lot of slot space.
Finally doing Orpheus rig build
Question, would graviton lance be an appropriate substitute? I know you said you didn't have to use the 2 suggestions but you said as long as it doesn't interfere. Thoughts anyone?
Yes, use it with a void machine gun, you’ll have devour and constant invisibility, and when you pick up a tangle or void orb you’ll get devour, void abilities weaken and make enemies volatile, you’ll get more heavy ammo so more machine gun damage with super. Use either deadfall or shadowshot it makes a minimal difference
Got a brace/destabilize smg from guardian games that I'm going to run with this
I think wish Ender is better overall. Bad Juju won’t be reliable in hard content cause it’s damage output would be a bit low
Any chance we'll see more of your builds on Mobalytics? I know it was sponsoring a bunch of creators a while back hence seeing builds there but I've grown to actually like searching it for builds across classes. Not an ad comment I swear hah, genuinely use it.
You gain super on damage dealt, wish ender hits multiple times per shot, so a lot more super energy
About 2 months late Mactics👍🏻
Hey Mactics, I'm a relatively new D2 player (F2P). As a result i cant get access to any of the coloured mods from threats and surges. i was wondering if there are any alternate mods you recommend to replace those in this build or can alot of your builds even work properly without them?
Mods are the key to running this. I know I am not the one you asked, but I am just trying to help you with the question you asked. You can still run the build but won't get the same outcome , your super will take a little bit longer and you won't get the efficient amount of return on killed. Just read all the mods that you do have available and look for super energy on kill or damaging enemies. Good luck and I hope this helps you
Wish I could figure out how to get ursa banner shield back that fast
Great build as always!! Why did you stop using mobalytics for builds?
I'm puzzled, didn't you make a video on this same build last season?
Hopefully Nezarec's Sin gets a similar build. It got hit harder than Orpheus.
Wouldn't Sunshot work pretty well with this build too? I jsut got it over 150 hours into Destiny 2 and I really want a build to use it with 😂
How are you using impact induction
Of course...the wishender bow, the one exotic I don't but I need. 😢
Thanks for the build! Would this also work well with Mobius Quiver? (Sorry I’m a noob)
this is a great build but idk if this competes with some of the OP arc hunter builds
Please make a build with easy gotten exotic pieces for new players
What about an ad clear wave frame or kinetic with enhanced thresh?
Do you think the manticore would be good?
Easily accessible [invisibility]. Destabilizing Rounds says Hi
Power creep at its best