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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- The Nike Pegasus 41 and New Balance Rebel v4 are two everyday running shoes refreshed for 2024. Released in March, the Rebel v4 ($140) offers a lightweight and speed-oriented ride in a clean package, while the brand-new Pegasus ($130) is designed for versatility and durability. In this video, I give an overview of both shoes, take them out for a threshold workout and let you know how they stack up. (By the way, I forgot to get my prediction in during the video, but Celtics in 5.)
0:00 - Intro
3:13 - Overview
14:36 - Running in the Pegasus
30:37 - Fit & Feel Comparison
32:10 - Running in the Rebel v4
40:20 - The Verdict
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Before even starting your video I knew the winner would be the Rebel.
Spoiled the video. 😭
@@markschoemehl4080 😂
I wana see the rebel vs SL2
@dancinglight8545 I haven’t ran in Novablast 4 yet but I have to admit my favorite daily trainers so far are Rebel V3, Triumph 20/21 and Novablast 3 in that order. The next shoe I’m getting is Rebel V4.
Hello can you use the New balance fuelcell rebel v4 in gym workouts?
With so many running channels focusing on stats and specs - its refreshing to come across a channel that focuses more on running experience and anecdotal reviews. If I want the specs, I can look online. Best running channel for trainer reviews atm in my opinion! Keep it up!
🙌🏽 thank you!
100% agree with you! I love watching his channel for actual reviews and how the shoes feel. I also love how he includes how he was feeling when wearing them. That completely changes how the shoes may feel for you!
Agree. I follow this one and EddBudd as well. Straight up, honest reviews.
Best running shoe channel out there. By far. 🤙 🤙
I went on a run in my Nike Pegasus 40s today. Got them on sale for like 80 bucks on the Nike App last month. Before my run , I had pain in the bridge of my foot. After my run I had zero pain in the bridge of my foot. I’m all Nike from here on out. The Peg is such a solid shoe. Can’t wait to try the 41!
Great shoes for sure. I think most all these shoes would take away the pain. I got the asics superblasts and I love them. Would love to try something else later just to see.
@@camonly849 It’s been a while since I owned a pair of ASICS, maybe a decade, but I do remember them being solid as hell also. But yeah, try the Pegasus out. You can probably still get the 40s on sale. If you like them, try the 41s when they go on sale next year. Just the way I do it though. I know some people always like to have the newest version when it comes out. Peg is not built to be the most cushioned shoe though. But I like that. If you want super cushioned I hear the invincible run 3 is the best on the market for that.
Love these comparisons and that you got the Pegasus sent for free but still kept it 💯. Too many other running shoe reviewers only say good things about shoes especially the ones they get for free.
the rebel v4 is the best shoe I've bought in years for sure, real good shit
Just the video I was looking for. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
I'm glad it was helpful! 🙌🏽
Man the shoe release this year are all bangers! Just saw the magic speed 4, big changes. Need to know your thoughts on them. I think you'll love it! Let's go! 🔥
Ikr. I can't be spending all my money on shoes 😂
@@adnan7698 That's what us, hobby joggers, supposedly do! 😁
Yessir will be buying that one later in the summer whenever it's out and my shoe budget permits! 😂 Stay tuned
@@supwell i feel you. Hope all running shoe brand sends you a pair of all their new shoes. And forcyou to have all the shoe fund brother! 🔥
@@smagic614
Capitalism
Got the rebel V4 last week as a suppliment to my 1080 V13.
Two very different shoes.
Im a slow runner but took the V4 for my first 10k race ever.
It was a low effort to try out Racing so i did not tap into the shoes potential, but it makes me want to go faster than the 1080 V13. At some point it felt “harder” to run than with the 1080.
Still trying to wrap my head around the V4.. did some intervals with it some days ago and they really propelled me forward
Yo! Thanks for another versus. Pegasus is the workhorse, I appreciate it for durability, looks and versatility. I skipped 39/40, I might get this version though. I don't have any opinion on the Rebel. Have a nice weekend, man!
I usually have a pr or 2 of pegs around for lawn mowing and shoveling..they have good traction and a snug fit so they stay put in off camber areas..the down side is they're hot,heavy and flat with no cushioning..the air bag feels like something is stuck on the outsole or waded up in the forefoot..probably it's best feature is they are discounted all the time and they come in a huge variety of colors..good video...
Hahaha your note on price and color is spot on ... reminds me of the saying "the best ability is availability"
Great review, Ty.
Seems like lots of really good $130-$140 shoes, which is great, since manufacturers are working hard to normalize the $200 price point.
Seems like the $140 price point has two groups:
Fun:
>Rebel 4
>SL2
>Novablast 4
>Velocity Nitro
>Mach 6
Clunky/old school:
>Cumulus
>Ride
>Ghost
>Pegasus
>Etc
To me, it’s difficult to justify any of the second group shoes, when the first group is available for the same money.
Further, the first group shoes are much better looking as well.
Great breakdown and I'm 100% with you. Some argue that the second group offers more durability but I don't want a long-lasting shoe that's bad to run in 😂 also you can get 300+ miles out of the fun shoes as well. Supernova rise and 860v14 are probably the best of the comfortable/durable $140 shoes - still need to try the cumulus though
Great in-depth comparison, as always 👏 I knew the Peg would take the L with this one, though 😂
It's a no-frills, traditional, durable, daily trainer.
I don't think we need to be blown away with our shoes on every run, which is why I feel there's still a place for the Peg in a rotation if you're fortunate enough to have more than one pair of running shoes.
Rebel has everything I like.
Light, bouncy, wide footprint, soft. 5 stars for me.
My only issue with NB is when I bought three pairs of Rebel 2s, loved the ride, but the uppers separated on two of the pairs after very low mileage.
NB customer service was in a word, CRAP. Not only no replacement, but no response. The reviews in their website are loaded with similar experiences.
Meanwhile, back when my Pegasus Turbo 2s self destructed, Nike sent me a refund immediately, no questions asked.
There are so many cool comparisons to do with the Pegasus 41 ... compare with :
-Puma Velocity Nitro 3;
- Asics Nova Blast 3;
- Adidas SuperNova Rise :
- Saucony Ride 17 ;
- NB 880 v14 .
Lots of work incoming for you !
Zero interest in all recent Nike shoes.
Adizero sl2 comin up?
Yessir stay tuned!
@@supwell - hope you have a narrow foot! SL2 are not roomy
@@edrios3668it fits true to size best adidas upper yet
@@edrios3668
They are normal like nb3, not wide like rebel v4, mach 6 is narrow ...
Rebel v4 is still my go to. So far, running shoe of the year.
They are such a fun pair to run on
Just bought a pair of Mach 6s over rebels. I still want to get some rebels to compare the to. I was so torn though 😐
Ran my first marathon in the New Balance Rebel v4. Absolutely loved the feel. Super comfy. Will buy again, I'm sure. However - I didn't even get 200 miles out of them.
That’s awesome! I can’t imagine running a marathon in my Rebels. How many miles did you get out of them and what caused you to retire them?
@@raybadudu787 I would say around 170-180. The sole started really going downhill. It looked like a piranha got a hold of them. LOL. I really enjoyed running in them, though. Once my other shoes start getting up there in mileage, I'll grab another pair. Or heck - maybe the Rebel v5!!!
Mad props for shooting for 100 miles in a shoe you’re describing as no-fun, disappointing and lifeless. Putting in that work!
You're right, it's not apples to apples but, if I have $120-$140 to spend on a shoe, I'm going to think about what is the best shoe (for me) to serve my purpose, whether it's the Peg, the Rebel, or an old model that has been marked down.
I partially agree about the specs. I think they can tell us something but how everything comes together makes a difference, too. We often say things like, "it's an 8mm drop but it feels like less." A very rockered shoe may feel less so if the foam is really soft and the shoe is flexible so everything flattens out when you hit the ground. I think way too much about this.
There's no such thing as thinking too much about shoes 😂
@@supwell🤣😂
You are a savage a running savant
Two quick ?
Consider a NB Rebel v4 vs Adizero SL 2
Your packing for a rolling with steep inclines HM Which pair of racing shoes from your vast collection would you select to snag a PB
Was that the wolf of wallstreet hum at 37:35 lol
hahaha yes i think you're the first to catch that
Will not pursue this shoe even if some were avid fan of this. I think Saucony, Adidas, Asics, New Balance are more ahead of this.
YOWANNAAAAAAAAAAA I got the Puma DNE3 yesterday.................!!!! Magnifico.
Can't wait to try those!
It's surprising that Rebel v4, being overwhelmingly dominant, dares to compare Peg 41! 😮
I think, and this is might not be true but I feel like I read somewhere that Nike measures the stack height with the air zoom unit and the airbag in the alphafly when they are compressed and so the stack height listen is with the airbag not fully expected.
Just a theory tho, as to why maybe the alphafly is lower then it measure and same as in the Pegasus
That's super interesting - thanks for sharing. Stack height/drop in the front definitely feel lower than I anticipated
I'm in the minority and was really disappointed with the Rebel V4. The heel is too squishy and the forefoot was too firm so it felt like a negative drop and beat my legs up every time I took them out.
As a heavier runner I had the same experience
I agree. I only enjoy them for a speedwork where I’m landing more forefoot and getting that pop off the front. Currently at 120 miles in them and struggling to see how I’m gonna get it to 300.
What other daily trainers have you found to be better than the Rebel?
@@raybadudu787 I switched to the one everyone compares it to, the Hoka Mach 6, and I really enjoy them!
I'm a forefoot runner and found them firm, sent them back. but tbf I hear they need breaking in like the Superblast.
@@edrios3668 I'm a heavier heel striker. The heel would bottom out for me, then the midsection felt like rolling over a speed bump to get up to my toes. I would ache for days after every run so yeah, I got rid of them too. I wasn't interested in torturing myself in order to try and justify a shoe when I could just switch to something I like immediately.
I don’t wish someone to step on my feet when I am on that rebel. It will be so painful. Rebel is a speed daily trainer and Pegasus is just a daily trainer… 😂 rebel should compare with saucony speed 4, puma deviate nitro2, Hoka Mach 6, brooks Hyperion tempo etc…
Fellow Charlottean here...love what you are doing! When you get a chance, do you mind adding the link for the knock-off Features Socks?
Thanks for catching that! Here you go - Alternative to Feetures: a.co/d/imtMpMH
Its mind boggling why Nike refuses to innovate the pegasus line wheter it be batter foam, dimensions, rocker, or literally anything 🤷♂️
Rebel v4 vs. Noosa Tri 16 🙌🏻💪🏻
What do you reckon the best shoe is for the gym (for a bit of strength/plyo and treadmill)? One of these? Something else?
Rebel v4 is a good choice. I also like the On Cloudstratus because it's cushioned enough for longer runs and then has a plastic heel clip around the back for stability which helps for more dynamic exercises. I used mine for CrossFit workouts. Running warehouse has the cloudstratus 3 on sale for $130 right now as well www.runningwarehouse.com/On_Cloudstratus_3/descpage-OCST3M5.html?from=supwell
Noosa tri 16 and maybe Adizero sl2 joining the rebel/mach 6 club, but nike has nothing in this category. And Nike arguably started it with epic react.
i hadn't thought about the noosa tri as part of the category but that's super interesting. i'll have to scoop that one once it's out. my asics budget is gonna be maxed out this summer with the magic speed 4, superblast 2 and that 😅
If you had to recommend 1 shoe you’d take for traveling around Japan in the heat of summer what would you choose?
I'd like to see the Evoride Speed 2 in this fight
I need a hobby jogger hat my man
ayy coming soon! stay tuned
Im wondering what shoes to use for a 3k track/road race. The shoes must be without spikes, so I have looked at the Takumi Sen's and Saucony Sinister(low price now). The Takumi is around $45 more expensive, and i have to choose either 1/2 size up or down. I already have the Deviate Nitro 2's for training sessions. What shoes are the best, or do you have any other recommendations?
Choosing between the Takumi Sen and Sinster I'd pick based on whether you want softer/more minimal with more ground feel or more built up and cushioned. Sinister is super lightweight and has the PWRRUN PB foam which compresses a lot - Takumi Sen will not have as much ground feel from the denser foam used. I know a lot of ppl like the Hoka Cielo and Asics Magic Speed 3 for this as well but I have not tested either of those yet
@@supwell Thank you for the answer! So theres not any performance difference between the shoes? I wont feel faster with the other? Keep in mind these will only be used for when i want to run as fast as possible / PR attempts, as I already got Deviate Nitro 2 for training :)
I've only run in the Takumi Sen but because of the firmer feel you'll probably feel faster in it if you tend to run with more power. I haven't run in the sinister but it's a lot lighter - if you are light on your feet and have a higher cadence you'll probably feel faster in this one
@@supwell Okay thank you for taking your time to help me!
Whats the amazon link for the socks?
how's the wet/damp surface grip of the rebel v4?
Really solid - much better than the previous version and one of the best grip on daily trainers this year. I took it for multiple rainy runs in my initial testing and it was great. 23 mile long run in the rain and no problems and then another 8 mile stroller run up and down hills in the rain and it was great too. I even took it on some light trails and it performed really well - it can handle everything except the worst mud
Pegasus vs Atreyu base model?
I’m an overpronator because I’ve been checking the bottom of my shoe where my big toe is a lot of wear, i have got a bunch of injuries recently such as, knee, bunion, calf and now hips. I was just wondering what shoes would you recommend for me and what should I do.
I would consider strengthening routines and stability shoes. I overpronate slightly but like to run in stable neutral shoes. Many of the newer offerings are quite stable especially from brands like Asics Brooks and Saucony.
Sorry to hear about the injuries! My favorite stability shoe that I've tested so far has been the new balance 860v14 - it's supportive but still has a nice soft foam and slight bounce/roll to it. I've also had good durability from those type of new balance shoes so I expect it'll last 300+ miles no problem
where is the adidas SL2 in this video bro???
Coming soon! Bought it as soon as it went for sale and it's arriving any day now
I need a size 14 in rebel v4 triple black! Does anyone here know where i can get my hands on pair ?
Rebel or 860 ?
Rebel is a lot lighter and less protective. 860 is more cushioned and stable. I'd take 860 as a daily trainer and especially for long runs. Rebel is going to be better for fast workouts and shorter runs
Waiting for the G4’s to go on sale. The Nike sales are way to good to pass on
yoo where is the link to those socks?
Hobby Jogger putting in that werk!!!
Can i choose R4 pliss
Man, you're just a tasty meal. I'm sure the mosquitoes and flies appreciate the buffet.
Rebel v4 vs Boston 12, but this comparison does not seem correct.
Love the peg but the rebel is superior
Hoppy jogger apparel when?
Hats coming this summer!
I also pick up the pace when I see a confederate flag
👍
so that had to be expected.......just one remark. I don`t look at the price of a shoe, i look at the price i have to pay to run 100 miles in a shoe. Lets say the shoes both cost 150 $, and one pair gives me 300 miles and the other pair 600 miles, it is 50 $ per 100 miles against 25 $ per 100 miles. Suddenly one pair costs double the price of the other one. To go one step further. If you run 1000 miles per year, it gets a 250 $ decision....and if you run more than 3000 miles per year it is a difference of 750 $ per year.....it might be a good idea, to get a shoe like the Peg 41 AND the Rebel 4 to meke something like a mixed calculation, to pay for the fun-Rebel with the savings by the durable Peg
edit: i personally will not buy the Peg 41. I still got some Nike Peg Turbo 2 i run in , lots of fun, much ground feel what i like, somewhat snug fitting, which reminds me of the racing flats of the 80th, where you had to buy uncomfortable racers, nothing else on the market, but it made you run faster, just to get out of the shoes earlier
......all in all compared to the early days of running shoes, we live in a paradise of options, and i like that a lot....i rotate through 20 different shoes per month, get most of them to 500 miles, buy almost all of them discounted, and i never had more fun running than now closing in on 50 years running and reaching the 70 year of my life mark.....most days double days with lots of rest and healthy eating in between, being retired, but living the life of a professional runner without sponsors and races, thankful for that gift every morning when i wake up pain free and ready to go
keep on the great work in your channel, love to watch your videos.....also love that you talk in a normal conversational pace without trying to get all you want to say in a 12 minute video
I love the idea of getting both shoes to stretch the dollar per mile value - the Pegasus will definitely go forever
nike made another walking shoe lol
Your videos are wayyyy to long.