Misha Defonseca Case Analysis | Fake Holocaust Survivor
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I would have much rather read a book about a Belgian girl who was made an outcast because of her father being a traitor. An honest account of that kind of burden would be very interesting to read, and the girl/woman in the story would be very easy to sympathize with.
seriously. her book just sounds like complete bullshit
Yeah you've got a point there.
I had the same thought. The Traitor's Daughter would've been a timeless read, but...
@@BalthazarMyrrh70 I was thinking the same thing until I remembered that many European nations would react very badly towards a book like that. Everyone is still raw after what happened during the Second World War, especially in the countries like Belgium where they were taken over by the Nazis. I can't blame these nations for reacting in anger to anyone that tries to put the stories of traitors or Nazi sympathizers ahead of actual victims of the Holocaust or of the numerous other war crimes the Nazis perpetrated all over occupied Europe, and this includes massacring entire villages of people.
This woman (Monique) knew that and decided that she was going to pass herself off as a Holocaust victim because she knew that this was also a sore spot in many countries across Europe who had lost a lot of their Jewish population at the hands of the Nazis and their collaborators.
And you know what? I don't think that Europe would be the only one angry over the publication of such a book but Canada and many other countries that actively participated in WW2. There would be a lot of interest, but in a very negative way and Monique would have found herself to be the subject of scorn and outright hatred instead of being admired and seen as a victim.
Her father betrayed others and then the Germans betrayed the betrayer. Karma. I guess it's hard for anyone to really respect a traitor, even the enemy.
I feel like her _actual_ story would have gotten her book deals...
There’s no telling what kind of damage the real story did to her developing mind. She definitely experienced trauma and at such a young age. Not only were her parents murdered but the shame of the father’s actions were projected onto an innocent child. I’m sure lying to survive became programmed into her mind. It’s hard to be angry at this woman. Yes, lying about her story was wrong but she never stood a chance.
@@ParodyWhitney this makes a lot of sense!
Yeah, who knows, it could sell all the way up to, like, a thousand copies, given enough time
@@dahomiedave1624 why?
Yep!
Whenever I hear it's a book that Oprah's promoted I roll my eyes and sigh.
Same here. 😑
Aww, I like Oprah. She’s a great host and business woman. Maybe not such a great source for scientific information though
@@LDiamondz publicity grab,as usual
Opal's bad ... mmmkay.
sounds like dr grande feels the same
Living with wolves? a 7 year old stabbing a soldier? Getting in and out of the Warsaw Ghetto twice? did this woman even read any Holocaust literature before writing this? Also, so horrible for the people who actually went through it...it is like crying wolf.
Well said!
honestly…if she was going to embellish her “tale of survival” she could use less near impossible feats. i mean…it just kept getting more and more bizarre.
Well, in her defense, she was raised by wolves. 🐺🤔
What about the Jews who also lied Like Elli Weasel, and the Diamond pooping Lady Irene Zisblat?
She should have said she lived with a pack of escaped circus poodles
Once I heard the “raised by wolves” part I knew not one thing she said could be believed.
Love that polka dot shirt!!!
Why? There are many recorded instances of humans being accepted into animal communities.
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@@lissacablerware8475 many? Please cite. Very few would be more accurate to say. It’s not impossible but it’s exceedingly rare which means it should’ve been investigated before jumping to believe her
There were no wolves in northwestern Europe at that time, to start with...🤦♀️ The landscape in Belgium is usually very populated with a lot of farming land inbetween. There is some "wilder" nature close to the German border that she may have hinted at (if that was her intention). In the past few years there were a few wolves coming back to this Belgian-German region, but they are the first ones for 200 years. She should have "adjusted" her birth date a lot more generously. 😂
@@dootdoot94xo44 This is so exceedingly rare, maybe as rare as one child in a billion, and all the children become profoundly socially deficient. These are not Disney stories, and the children are not "raised by," but alongside of, wolves or other animals. It's not heartwarming, it's horrifying. A few escaped slavery or indentured servitude, or a parent who was so alcoholic they failed to care for them. Some never had normal speech. I don't think a single one adjusted to urban society or got married.
Dr Grande is not an Oprah fan, and I'm here for it.
He is a great bs detector. Dr. Phil, (Dr. Fraud) as well.
@@sarahalbers5555 don't forget Dr. Pinsky
@@sarahalbers5555 Don't get me started on him! 🤬 He's condescending and inconsiderate to a lot of his guests!
Love Dr Grande
Oprah should be gone lol
Even when the subject seems completely noninteresting your analysis always makes it better
I can´t agree more :-) The same here
She sures has expensive tastes for someone who was raised by wolves.
Let's not forget her grand walk from Belgium to Poland, and the fact that as a seven year old (or maybe slightly older) she killed a full grown German soldier with nothing more than a knife...
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Must be that wolf power
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@@TiffWaffles So that's where BF5 drew inspiration from...
This story begs whether anybody asked this woman, 'Were you raised by wolves or something?'🐺
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His podcast is wonderful
I still can’t get over the whole raised by wolves thing, like has that ever actually happened? With wolves? Twice? 😂💀
Feral children exist but I don't know of any who grew up to become well adjusted articulate adults.
Yeah I know feral children exist, it’s just wolves is a weird choice to pick as a lie lmfao cause I’m pretty sure outside of the jungle book, a wolf would prob just go ahead and and eat a human baby 😂
@@bekahlicious8496
She wasn't exactly a 'baby' anymore
Wolves attack adult humans too, what’s your point lmao
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Exactly what I said: at seven she wasn't a baby anymore. Poor choice of words.
Also there were no wolves in several of the countries that she claimed to have crossed on her trek to Warsaw.
But if there were, then it was indeed unlikely they would protect or shelter her.
"People need to believe evidence not stories"... Brilliant as always Dr. Grande and thank you for covering this topic 🖤
Seriously, I can't believe anyone was stupid enough to believe this bullshit. I heard of orphaned children who had to wonder alone during the Holocaust before but come the fuck on, she was adopted by wolves?? And killed an adult nazi all by herself at the age of 7?? Get the fuck out of here...when I was 7 I couldn't open a jar of mayo, let alone kill an adult, male soldier.
Tell MAGA sheep that!!
It sounds like a narrative more like how she wanted her past to be, which then snowballed out of control due to the need to keep up the narrative and narcissism.
More or less. This sounds similar to a lot of the people committing stolen valor. Many of them actually *did* serve in the military, but feel they have to constantly make bigger and bigger claims to validate their ego, like multiple Purple Hearts, serving in the Navy SEALS, etc.
Yep
I agree except that I don’t see it as narcissism.
@@chad3232132 I don’t think it’s similar to that at all. She was orphaned by the Nazis as a very young child and that is going to scar someone and drive them towards coping strategies. She wasn’t an adult lying about their career.
Absolutely plausible...but, still, horrific.
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you should cover the story of that woman who lied about surviving and losing her husband in 9/11. that story is WILD
What was her name?
@@TecOneself pretty sure her name was alicia head? i think she used a fake name in her story
@@bitchscotti4454 Tania
Tania Head is really interesting because she didn’t try to profit off of her story - she actually donated money and helped found a survivors network. Really strange case, she wasn’t even in the US on 9/11
@@maxwellbowman4084 i know!! it's so wild like she was definitely a net positive in the world bc she did so much to help actual survivors work through their trauma it's just so weird that she had to make up an alternate identity to feel like she could do that. and she was from spain!!!
I would love to see you cover the disappearance of Asha Degree. It's one of the most mysterious and creepy cases I have read. A 9-year-old girl left her house in the middle of the night and was last seen walking down the highway, never to be seen again. Almost 2 years later, the backpack she had on her was found buried under dirt near a road miles north of where she was last seen. No remains have ever been found. The most popular theories are that she was groomed, met an opportunistic predator, or was accidentally hit by a car.
Yes, this would be great for him to cover.
I live near where this happened and has bothered me for years. It was breaking news as I was preparing for work. It was one of the worst thunderstorms we had.
I just looked this case up bc I had never heard it. She was very young to leave her home during a storm like that and walk along a highway. It would seem she met someone at school who convinced her to meet them. Very scary that they found the book bag a year later! I would be most interested in the adults she came in contact with at school, church, and sports
If her backpack was found buried, and reading Roxanne Moser's accounting of the day, could she have gotten swept up in the torrential rain, if there was any, and been pulled into a stream where her backpack was buried by the storm? Just a thought.
@@LanceLust1980HugeTheWarningFan her backpack was wrapped in plastic and had a shirt and book that were not hers. The book was a dr suessbook from the school library and the shirt was a new kids on the block shirt. They also found candy wrappers and her hair bow in a shed. They never found her body so it seems she was abducted. Again someone obviously told this child to meet them and she was determined enough to go out in a storm. Teachers, coaches, people from church are the best suspects.
Oprah promoted Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, and Maya Angelou...
not all terrible.
Once you said ‘raised by wolves’ and ‘snuck in and out of the ghetto many times’ my spidey sense got to tingling. I am sure many others have said the same thing but I would have liked to have read a story about her father and his betrayals and how it affected her as a child and adult.
Especially the "snuck in and out of the ghetto" part for me. The Nazis had those ghettos locked down pretty tight. Whereas, while it's unlikely for someone to be entirely raised by wolves, hitting it off with a pack, while rare, is not out of the question - especially considering that wolves are closely related to the domestic dog.
Guys, she "walked to Poland" while "living with wolves". Of course she could come and go from the ghetto!
I just love how you stated that Oprah supported books that were no good😇
I think Oprah has ppl ghost read the books for her
You would think with all the resources available to Oprah she would be able to vet people and stories before promoting them.
She jumped the shark when she included the "raised by wolves" bit. Gotta know when to pull it back a bit dear.
Dr. Grande, I have a co-worker who will embellish truths. He will add aspects to a story that are not correct. Honestly, I thought he was part of a teeny, tiny minority of people with whom I have interacted (I guess I have been living under a rock), but after hearing the story of this woman, and hearing your commentary on her story, I now know that there are most likely many people who are like this: tell untruths for attention and acknowledgement. Recently, I decided that I need to get out and socialize a bit more. After watching your video....no, I don't need to go out of my way to meet more people.
Thank you, Dr. Grande!!
A grave mistake lady. U should go out moar!!!
Our neighbor was a Polish man in a Nazi work camp, with the tattoo to prove it. People like Misha make me sick, faking to get sympathy.
She didn’t fake her trauma. It was real. She merely found ways to deal with it.
@@lissacablerware8475 the 2nd hand rage they slipped in their comment was rather odd
This is such an odd take. Her parents did die on a concentration camp.
Just because the reason was different doesn't mean she wasn't victimized by the holocaust.
The tattoo means nothing... one of the frauds that was caught lying went to the point of putting a fake number tattoo on himself to help with the con.
@@michaelcoletta4547nobody denies that work camps existed is tattooing a prison number on someone really proof of genocide via gas chamber
There have been writers here in Australia, who claimed to be child survivors who lived through improbable situations. For a while, it was a cottage industry.
It stopped when child survivors' organization sued the writers for damages.
I don’t think I’ve seen you cover this one yet, so apologies if I missed it. I’d love to see your analysis of Tania Head, a woman who claimed to be a 9/11 survivor. There is a book and a documentary out on her called “The Woman Who Wasn’t There.”
That would be a good one! I read the book and it was riveting.
I would love to hear that one of his take..
this would make a great video. i haven’t seen the documentary or read the book, but i saw a video about her
@@misseselise3864 I don't remember who did the Documentary on Tania Head, but I remember watching it and just feeling such outrage for the people that this woman victimized. What is sad is that many of these poor people were survivors of 9/11 and they felt like they couldn't be angry towards Tania because even though she did a lot of harm and lied about her trauma, she did a lot of good for the survivors.
yessssss!!!
Good analysis. I don’t feel too hard towards her. She lost both of her parents due to the Nazis when she was a little child, but to make her loss worse she was unjustly tarred with her father’s shame. She told herself a story, then told others, then it ran out of control.
She could have just come forward and told that story instead of coming out with a lie. Too often we forget what happened to people who weren't Jewish who were killed by the Nazis. I would much prefer to read something that is the truth (regardless of what the person's truth is) then to read something that is nothing more than a lie. The problem here is that false narratives like this are helping the Holocaust denialist groups gain more ground because if this person can lie about the horrors and trauma associated with the Holocaust then so can victims like Anne Frank or Helene Berr, and actual survivors that feel they need to speak about their trauma in order to teach a new generation before their voices become silent, too.
@@TiffWaffles I find it very interesting most people that were in the Holocaust do not say anything but kids and their kids keep finding stories in the attic and your many many stories out there
@@TiffWaffles you’re right, but even now, the rest of what happened in the Holocaust still steals her story’s thunder. Add that to her traumatic experience as an orphan who went unnoticed. It reminds me of Jussie Smollette. Dr. Phil explained that genuine victims will stage or exaggerate their victimhood because it’s hard to make people understand and validate more subtle incidents.
@@TiffWaffles exactly! Unfortunately, this was not the last genocide Europe has known...
Wasn't it claimed that Anne Frank's diary wasn't actually written by her?
Dr. Grande, thank you for all your videos. I have learned so much from your insight. Any chance you'd like to review Chad Issak? He was just convicted in the quadruple murder in North Dakota. Some of the sticky notes found in his home were intriguing and made me wonder "what would Dr. Grande not diagnose but speculate about this?"
Thanks for that info! Now I gotta check it out lol
it would be interesting to know how many Oprah promoted 'true stories' were actually true. i also wonder how many people have been harmed by her guests' nonsense. Ms Defonseca seems a troubled soul. i hope she gets the support she needs.
Yes ! I would def be interested.
I remember being rivited by A Million Little Pieces when it was on Oprah’s book club- couldn’t put that memoir down-and then finding out we were all duped. Look that story up if you don’t know it.
I watched the Netflix documentary. The first item that made me think the story is bogus was when the narrator said that the seven-year-old girl walk thousands of miles through war-torn Europe (her story took place during World War II). The documentary alluded that she made this walk during winter. A seven-year-old girl? No way.
Once the investigated facts started to prove her story was false (as I watched the documentary), I thought to myself - why didn't she write the story as fiction? She obviously is a compelling story-teller. Yet, her greatest talent was not story-telling, but her ability to lie. She would tell her hogwash story before thousands of people and to European television interviewers. Lying is her true talent ... if lying can be called a talent.
That the American publisher was called greedy ... it was her business to seek compelling stories for publication. That's not greed - that's business. The American publisher's biggest fault was not checking the facts. One part of the editing process is validating the "facts." A publisher cannot be negligent of this important process.
The falseness of this charade sure made for an interesting documentary. I enjoyed watching the Netflix documentary.
She was a con artist who falsely received millions and got caught and then tries to play the victim in order for people to feel sorry for her...what a narcissist.
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@@Imperium83 She*
Yeah, at first listening to this I thought she was similar to the stolen valor types (many of whom did serve but lie about/exaggerate their achievements), but as this video went on it's more sinister. At least stolen valor types do it more for an ego boost than anything else and usually benefit very little financially. This person conned people out of millions with her false claims.
@@harleyquinn5774 😆
Nope
Hello Dr.Grande, can you please do a video explaining how you research your topics? The information you provide is very thorough and demonstrates some impressive investigational skills.
I have just watched this documentary on Netflix. I live in Poland. I must admit that I have read and hear many war stories - both my grandparents suffered as a slavish workers for German ocupants. The most striking thing in Misha story was the wolves and idyllic journey throu the forest - in Europe this kind of forest are rare in Belgium. The second aspect was the greed - both Misha and an editor. In Poland many witnesses of war time speaking for free because they want to educate young generation. I admire the huge work Belgium genealogist. This system of archaive - in 4 booklets was very clever. In my country Irena Sendler was keeping her archaive about Jewish children identity in jars burried in the garden.
Did anyone at any point consult experts on wolf behaviour to try to determine whether there are any circumstances in which wolves MIGHT behave this way?
I love the way you so dryly deliver your dad jokes
My dad was a Neurologist on Miami Beach for years. Many of his patients were Holocaust survivors. You could see their camp tattoos on their wrists. Absolutely bone chilling. They were as tough as nails to survive. And this woman is faking? Reprehensible.
Not at all given her childhood trauma and not being allowed to have suffered such loss.
@@lissacablerware8475 I agree. She lost her parents to the nazis. Maybe she used her fantasy to survive.
My father is a holocaust survivor from Greece. (The nazi's invaded Greece too). It takes a lot for him to talk about it. He spoke about it at an inner city school (6th graders ) and they were mesmerized the teachers said. He spoke about how grateful he is to be living in the US and it really resonated with the students about how lucky they are and the tragedies going on around the world . They sent him beautiful letters that he kept about how his story made a difference in their lives.
@@lf9341 beautiful the compassion concerning this dark period in history.
Geeeee. Zusss!!!! She's worse than the woman who said she was a survivor of the World Trade Center.
You gotta do Tania Head. I would love to hear your take. I just rewatched the doc on her twice. Really interesting … similar to this …
Your approach to this is an exercise of restraint without losing focus on facts.
This woman's life story would make a great movie. With her imagination, she could have written many novels. Though, it sounds like she was a bit of a grifter who didn't aspire to be anything more. Excellent case, Dr.Grande. Great quality, day in and day out. I don't know how you do it, but I'm very glad that you do. 👍❤
I think she just wanted to be part of her local Jewish community who had to tell so many stories about their life during the Holocaust. Normally, I wouldn't have had any problem with her converting to Judaism but don't claim you endured the same kind of persecution as an ethnicity you are not part of.
Yea it's so silly!! Don't people know that wolves don't let anyone in under 9 without a secret paw shake?! And I've knifed plenty of nazi soldiers in my time and at a much younger age but that's cause Call of Duty was out by then
lol. Good one!
Good answer, Bro!
That sad that she use the Holocaust to make her life more interesting.
Great video Dr Grande!! Have a nice Friday!!!
Watching the movie "Schindler's List" made it more heartbreaking 😢...it's senseless how someone could make a profit off a tragedy that killed more than 1 million Jews 🤦🏽♀
My dad is a holocaust survivor and wasn't upset with the book Her parents were killed by the nazis and maybe as a little girl all she had were her fantasies to survive? Who knows. I do wish she didn't profit from it though.
I’m always happy when you cover a case like this that I’ve already read a lot about it. It’s somehow even better than I when I learn about a new one from you.
Alicia: My Story is an excellent alternative book. The author came to speak at our school. What a miracle she was.
What in the actual F. My grandmother is a survivor of 3 camps and a ghetto. People like this make seriously deminish what my grandmother lived through. All she does is fuel deniers. I have copies of the camp record pages. She and a cousin wrote books about it, (flares of memory, dawn after dacahau, and life in the shadow of the holocaust) I don't truly hate people generally but she may be a first
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That was a brilliant analysis. Thank you Dr Grande.
My dad had been a POW in NKorea, and if there is one thing a former POW, or veteran that saw action hates and can sniff out in a hot minute, is a faker.
They wont tolerate someone trying to garner respect or sympathy for something they didnt suffer through.
It's called 'Stolen Valor.'
My dad was a medic during the Korean war.He never spoke about what he saw but had night terrors.
The only thing he mentioned was when the sun finally came out & he was sitting in a jeep with his boots off trying to dry out his socks.A fresh in country Lt yelled at him,your out of uniform sergent put those boots on.He put his boots on, than knocked the Lt to the ground.He lost a stripe for that bit of combat.
He finished out 20 years in 1967 died 1 year later in a car crash.
You never know when it's your time.
Misha didn't commit stolen Valor, she just lied about her life and claimed it was her truth. CraY
Fascinating case. There is so much to reflect in this case but I think part of the reason why she did what she did, lies in her need for acceptance and belonging. The guilty and shame she must have experienced growing up might have prompted her to find a way to be accepted and embraced by society. As such, this story was a safe place for her.
Fantastic analysis as usual Dr. Grande, thank you so much.❤️
I agree! My father is a holocaust survivor from Greece. (The nazi's invaded Greece too). It takes a lot for him to talk about it. He spoke about it at an inner city school (6th graders ) and they were mesmerized the teachers said. He spoke about how grateful he is to be living in the US and it really resonated with the students about how lucky they are and the tragedies going on around the world . They sent him beautiful letters that he kept about how his story made a difference in their lives.
@@lf9341 How gracious of him to share his story. I think it’s so important to keep those memories alive and share them with the young generations. They need to know...
@@rejaneoliveira5019 He didn't want to when he was asked (too painful) but once he saw how the children were listening he decided it was worth it. He ended with never to judge a person by skin tone, religion etc but by character....
@@lf9341 I can imagine, it takes a lot of courage to share an experience like this.❤️
She’d be great friends with Tania Head 🤦🏻♀️
Yes. I would love for her case to be discussed on this channel.
I was thinking the same thing 😂
My once comm. teacher’s mom was moved from nazi Germany, her mom was Jewish, to the south of France. When the war ended her grandparents went to claim their daughter but the foster person refused to hand her over, of course she did, thinking that she was hers to keep forever. Fascinating story of survival.
Pretty profound lessons in this one Dr Grande! Thank you for your analysis! Always a pleasure☺❤❤
Wow! What a story! Never heard of it before. Thanks Dr. Grande for your very insightful take.
It's on Netflix or Amazon. It's a quick and fascinating watch.
It's on Netflix or Amazon. It's a quick and fascinating watch.
I like the compassionate path you took with your analysis of this situation. I think if she had told her real story that people, maybe no Oprah, would have embraced it.
Exactly. She wasn't responsible for her father's actions, which themselves were deeply human btw. I'm always amazed by how people pretend like they know what it is like to be in that situation - we don't. I can only imagine the terror and the feeling that you'd do whatever it takes to save those who you love. Sure it's not ok to hurt other people for it but there are no good choices in a situation like that. As for Mischa, she obviously needed help to deal with her pain. There are few things more unbearable than having your trauma denied or dismissed, especially bc of sy else's actions.
@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 didn’t her father betray the Germans? They would be a good thing.
@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 oh wait, sorry. I just remembered he turned I the other rebels to save his wife and child.
@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 She was an adult continuing the lie. So no empathy for the adult version of herself. She begged for money from generous neighbors. She sued another person for millions. She traveled around Europe telling that lie to school children and adults. She scammed thousands of people and stole the story of real victims. Watch the story on Amazon or Netflix and see what she did.
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Thank you so much for your insights. I enjoy listening to your channel as a do my remote job. It sharpens my clinical skills.
After watching the documentary and getting all wrapped up in it, I was really just disgusted with her. She puts real victims in danger of anyone believing their story and she strung people along for sympathy, possibly friendship, and MONEY. What I want to know is why she never served time in jail. She committed fraud and got money doing it. She should be serving time!
Todd, This is the Best video you have Ever done! Just an excellent dissection of a very complicated woman.
Not a lot of down voters yet.They must be sleeping late, unlike Dr. Grande who's work ethic is awesome.Thank you for your brilliant posts
She lied to gain sympathy and recognition from other peoples suffering and death. It’s sad that anyone could contrive such a story.
Not if you're planning on a book😉
It’s understandable to a degree but it’s selfish and disregards the suffering of those who endured the Holocaust.
It’s not unimaginable at all. Did you listen to Dr Grande’s analysis yet?
@@lissacablerware8475 Yes, I agree. My word choice was incorrect.
Oprah I grew up with alligators and wild goats in the swamps of Florida.🤭🤣
Sorry, but that won't compete with my book about my experiences of being raised by penguins in the Sahara desert.🤣
@@mirandajsummers can you please be my Ghost writer?🤔we cra cra😜
@@jopan1363 goats-writer in your case. God, have I just told a Dr Grande joke?
You both should be hearing from Oprah's producers soon. She will be interested in your stories. Maybe she'll give out cars, again! 🙃
Oprah was never poor
I know someone that is just like this, and Facebook is their playground
Bonjour de la France, docteur! Your analysis is always so perfect , complete and undisputable it is hard to comment it . " The wolf- pack would rather consider her as a dinner rather than a member of the pack" 😂😂😂 On top of everything else your sense of humour is genial ( fr) !!! 👍👏
Also a fan of Dr. Grande’s - also live in France - “Sud de la France!” !🇺🇸🇫🇷🇺🇸
@@michaelelizabethcuaz9142 😊👍
I'm a little confused and confliced here. Wouldn't Misha's father be viewed as a hero for helping USA and their allies against the Nazis?
I think Misha's fantasy life, although untrue is a wonderful tale. Her story had enough depth and realism that many believed it.
I really loved this analysis Dr. Grande. Your topics are so out of the box and thought provoking. 🌵🌵🌵🌵💕
Yes, but he ended up betraying the resistance fighters to survive.
@@lf9341 yes you are correct. I watched the Netflix story after Dr. Grande's analysis. The father was caught by the Nazis after bragging about his position. He ratted out about 40 other resistance fighters. A true coward. They were all executed. The daughter Misha, sought out attention later in life by creating a false narrative for herself. Very sad.
@@thereal4113 Oh! I haven't seen it! I will check it out!
@@lf9341 he didn't do it to survive, he did it to save his wife and see his daughter one last time. For all we know he could've been a 25 year old kid, under extreme torture. There's a reason why spies have means to commit suicide if they get captured. You cannot predict what you will do or say under torture.
Grande! Grande! Grande! Love your videos, Doc 👍
This is amazing. How could this outlandish tale ever have gotten any traction, anywhere, for any reason? It's almost scary.
Dr. Grande, I'd like to request the Noah Chamberlain case from Henderson, TN. It was a very high profile case around here. Thank you. Have a great weekend!
Is it Grande o'clock already ?
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He's so early today. This is very suspicious. We should speculate what's going in a situation like this.
@@LDiamondz Hahahahahahahahahahaha but we must resist the temptation to "diagnose".
@@maureeningleston1501 That's right! We must give our analysis only and ask them to 'like' us, umm if we get it right! And we will. 😁
You should do an analysis of someone who went on Oprah and told the truth. If you can find such a person.
Completely underrated comment lmao
This was a fascinating story Dr Grande. It was a horrible event historically and people want to believe in heros fantasy or not. You show much understanding with your analysis. Incidentally, my husband’s family is French and Spanish, but his DNA has Ashkenazi markers. We have learned about 65 or so Holocaust survivors with the Pimentel name. Thanks so much for a very interesting story!
The Pimentel family in New Mexico makes guitars.
@@Catlily5 Hi, really? That sounds great 😊
I have no sympathy for anyone who uses the actual suffering of that horrible time for any reason. It's unacceptable.
Kinda crazy that this isn't the first time with people lying about that event in history.
@@CowToes I can't let people get away with lying about facts. History is a big one with me. Lately, it's dealing with the ones saying cruel.and selfish things about the United States helping Ukraine. They are wilfully ignorant of this countries history and the rest of the world too.
Dr. Grande's videos should fall under entertainment as opposed to education.
Living with wolfs,...ya right. From 1960 to 1985 I lived deep in the boreal forest (“taiga”) in northern Canada, I cannot count how many times I have had to shoot at wolves that were trailing me or encircling me in my overnight camp, I was just food to them.
Dr. Grande, can you analyze the murder of Russell and Shirley Dermond. This case was just so awful and puzzling. I would love to hear your analysis.
I love your channel! ♥️
Any time someone tells you they made friends with or became a protected member of a wolf pack you know the story is bs. But you gotta love her commitment!
Not necessarily. According to Wikipedia, there's been several instances of feral children growing up with wolves & other creatures. It's actually quite fascinating, really. :-)
@@TheMouseAvenger Wikipedia is truly a solid place for factual information.
@@TheMouseAvenger not “several”. And certainly not children being adopted into wolf packs at age 10. There was like ONE documented case of a boy raised by wolves from a MUCH younger age.
Dogs on the other hand are awesome, and will totally raise a human baby. She should have said it was domesticated dogs.
@@Catlady-mw4en Dogs, wolves, leprechauns, whatever.🐶🐶🐺🐺🐕🐩
I heard of few raised by live cats, lynx especially 🐈😺...
"It presented a massive Oprahtunity for mischa"
Awesome work Doc
Could you do a video on the relationship between anxiety and conscientiousness? For example can high functioning and low functioning anxiety make a person behave more or less conscientiously than their "authentic" personality? What happens to the behaviours associated with conscientiousness when anxiety disorders are treated?
Excellent suggestion. I'd love to see that video.
Reminds me of the older videos.
@@shannonshannonbobannon5040 Yeah, I've been watching some of Dr Grande's earlier videos recently and that gave me the idea for the topic.
@@SomeoneBeginingWithI it sounds like maybe you might already have a guess about this, due to your interest. The internet says there’s a negative correlation between conscientiousness and neuroticism. Maybe anxious people are not strong enough to handle honest self-evaluation and criticism. Maybe their snowballing negative thinking makes them too terrified to face mistakes. Or, maybe anxiety creates self-doubt that hinders their ability to fully apply themselves.
@@Catlady-mw4en It sounds like you have some hypotheses about a causal relationship, but you're more interested in people's self evaluation than their observable behaviour.
You also sound somewhat judgemental, like maybe you perceive anxiety disorders as a moral failing. It's hard do to good science when you approach question from that kind of emotional framework, because there's likely to be bias in the hypotheses you generate.
I'm surprised that your internet search didn't give you anything about high functioning anxiety because it's very common and easy to observe in the population. There are even popular science opinion pieces from business people saying "anxiety is good actually because it makes people more productive". I don't think it's a simple negative correlation. High functioning anxiety tends to present as very high conscientiousness because of the excessive planning, perfectionism, and reluctance to be spontaneous. The fear of judgement you mentioned can paralyse people so they can't act at all, or it can motivate them to work excessively hard. Just from what I've observed in the population it seems like a complex enough relationship that it would fit well into Dr Grande's series on the relationships between different mental disorders and personality traits. I'm not an expert on this field and I haven't devoted time to reading the research literature so if Dr Grande did make that video I'm sure I would learn something.
As for "there was a lot of chaos" during the war, as a person who used to process and submit Holocaust survivors' applications for reparations, there are a lot of folks who believe the documents would be lost. Surprisingly, there is an entire industry devoted to recovering information, to verify claims or to uncover abuses, such as this woman.
Any Holocaust scholar---and there are dozens in the Boston area, between scholars from Brandeis, Harvard, Tufts, Boston U and others--- would have been able to highlight the holes in the story.
Good Heavens, how horrible to "play" with this reality. Shame, shame...just how could you pretend this horrific past?
Great video , I feel society as a whole is very sick and now more than ever we need good doctors
Very interesting. I had never heard of her. Good video Dr. 😊
What if Oprah recommends your book Dr. Grande?! 🤠💕
Oh that would be so funny! He'd get rich off that book. Probably start liking her a little bit. 🤣
I just watched this documentary on Netflix two nights ago. My first thought was,...I wish Dr. Grande would analyze Misha and this situation. My wish came true! lol Thanks Dr. Grande:)
Me too 👍🏼🤩
I appreciate your way of expressing.......... ;) hard to laugh, but I do smile everytime.
What was that 1 book.. oh yeah: 1 million* pieces . Cheers from Canada Doctor.
I'm not going to be hard on this woman. Her life was hard to begin with. I think she made up the story due to what happened to her father.
This was a good story. Thanks Dr. G.💜
Same. I commented that I could relate to her in a way. Serious injury put me in the hospital for a long time as a child and I spent many hours dreaming. It's all I could do sometimes. Being a child outcast, I'm assuming she spent her days the same way. Had my pain not been seen or validated, I wonder would I have had similar issues.
Same!
@@jen30551 I'm sorry about your injury.:(. How awful .
@@lf9341 Ah thank you! I have much to be grateful for. Kind people like you are high on that list! 💗💗💗
Dr. Grande is the real deal! 👍🏽
I'd love to hear your analysis of Irene Zisblatt's story, as well as the story of Herman and Roma Rosenblat...
Love you Dr Grande! Can you analyze Jeanette Archer?
You know, when I watched the documentary, I was really struck by the wolf sanctuary owner. I feel like somewhere in their friendship there would have been some slip-ups regarding the believability of the wolves' behavior, which she probably never thought anything of or made mental excuses for because of the deception and the desire to believe. I imagine if we had known more clearly at the time that the "alpha" wolf hierarchy thing was a myth, she would have been tipped off early on by the way Misha described things. I just felt bad for her as someone who had a connection with the animal part of the story. The rather bold and comfortable way Misha acted with the wolves in that sanctuary (getting her head gently chomped and then starting a pack howl?!) suggests to me that, at the very least, she had confidence in her ability to "commune" with them safely, so to speak. That's a fascinating element to me.
Hopefully there will be more Bella Grande Media podcast soon!
Did you know you can't study & scrutinize the Holocaust in E.U. ? Heavy jail penalties.
I feel like this is bound to get demonetized for the title alone.
Dr. Grande, my both parents are holocaust survivers as kids. They were avoiding that topic & never thought to "brag". Also, seems in Europe Jews never expected any sympathy.
If I substitute “Aunt Babe” for “Misha” then I have a narrative framework, a skeleton for fleshing out the facts in a family murder mystery from 1909. I owe your channel big time - I think I just provided myself with narrative therapy by watching this vid. 1,000 thanks to you, Dr. Grande.
Hi Dr Grande I love your videos I would love to hear your thoughts about Yeonmi Park - a girl who escaped North Korea and is now a human rights activist in America
Now that gurl is lyin...
I love how logical you are. It’s refreshing.
Have you done an analysis on Sylvia Browne yet?
Thank you so much! She was just a child and was vilified because of her father’s actions. He was tortured. What would any of us do? Want to make it right somehow. Want to find acceptance and respect. Want to rewrite history. Just wretched.
His crime was being careless with information. Her choices were 1. Being known as the child of a traitor; 2. Being the child of a careless idiot; 3. Being the child of a Holocaust victim.
Want to rewrite history. Want to be paid millions of dollars for it. 🙄