To clarify because people are still seeming to be confused, I’m not against KOS, I’m not complaining about getting killed on a PVP server, I’m talking about the problem with KOS resulting in toxicity, for example people running around spawn shooting all nakeds so no one can start off. Also I’d love to see more interactions between players.
hes my friend and theres a couple reasons he killed you, you might have had some items in your inventory, and also maybe he killed you to get some negative rep dont assume he kills you because you think hes toxic.
I think I have a theory on how this whole situation started: (I'm probably going to be skinned alive by a ton of 9 year olds, but here I go). There are a ton of you tubers who have played unturned at least once, and a lot of these people appeal to the younger audience. Now I know from experience that we all aspire to be someone who we look up to, so these younger kids install unturned with the mindset: "Hey, I'm going to find all the great gear and be the best at this game!" And 99% of them fail because they're brand new. So now, the youngins start complaining and screaming in chat (This is not EVERYBODY, so if you're younger and you don't make people's ears explode when you get mad, thank you). This made bigger servers like unturned beast and panda hut add plugins to the game. It encourages pvp by giving semi-good gear to those who just aren't good enough to get it themselves. So now you have most of the server running around with mid tier guns and the game expects little to no violence. Yah I don't think so. I feel like if unturned 4.0 servers don't have kit plugins like all these other servers, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, we'll have a true survival game
You're right, I've been playing this game since the 2.0 and when i switched to 3.0 the community wasn't really toxic yet. But when the game really became popular that's when shit started, people shooting nakeds, kids crying around etc etc... But I still like this game even though it turned into an arcade pvp based game. I really hope that the 4.0 will make a real change, I want my old unturned survival experience back
I mostly play on kit servers nowadays since I dont feel like losing my stuff to some koser on a vanilla server, so I play on a server that gives me stuff so I can actually play the gamr instead of getting shot to pieces after finally getting a proper basic loadout and getting sent to square one
@@7BUHZCT ...? First of all, am I... NOT allowed here? Second of all, this was years ago and I can't be expected to remember every single comment I've left
I once saw a naked we walked past each other, I saw he had no weapons on his leg or back so I just kept on walking to then find a full Cobra mag in the back of my head... Turns out he was hiding a gun in his inventory...
I want to say i think for 4.0 if you villain your mental state becomes worse and start to hear voices and shake at random times because if you kill you will destroy your mental health. (I know this isn't really the subject but what ever)
The only plausible way to prevent KOSing (for me at least) has always been to be in a vehicle. And fortify it completely, I then find it easy to drive up to someone or a group of people and have conversations and trades without risking death. It’s all about death, especially in the server you host Kameding, which makes loot so much more valuable, because well... it’s all so much more hardcore, way more hardcore then your average vanilla server, nothing wrong with that tho.
One time I was on a server and I was trying to set up a shop and I found 2 players and I was talking to them and then they just murdered me on sight with bows they said I was bad later when I had a hawkhound I saw them and I killed them both.
One time i saw 2 almost naked guys. I had a Eaglefire (Which i gave to them, cuz i hate that gun) instead of KOSing. After droping the gun, i organized my inventory and when i closed it, they killed me. #KosGottaStop
The reason why we KOS nakeds is because we simply just do not trust them. For example, nakeds will do anything to get stuff, even by force. Because the way they think is, if they kill a guy with gear, they get the gear. That's why nakeds or low level tier people are incredibly risky.
Im totally on the "No Kos" Side. But this Guy is right. The Unturned Community Scared itself. They made themselves hate eachother. Because one KOS´ed, a Second one, A Third One. And all those players want what ? Their Loot back. And KOS´er nakeds ? Yea they want LOOT to KILL because they are scared. Of course not all are scared. Some are just People who dont understand what a OP Kit server is and a Survival Server is.
But, for example, if someone spawns near seattle, where there are a lot of opportunities to get a gun, you will kill him to be sure that he doesn't turn against you. Spinosaurus Productions does have a really solid point. Also, why kill the guy with just a chainsaw? If you come to him, if he is a good player, he can easly kill you with the chainsaw, or even get a gun from inventory/base. I do understand what you are trying to say. Sorry if this sounds hater-ish
I agree to some extent, if youre all decked out and you approach someone wearing only the tutorial hat and go "hello ma-" and then they just start punching you out of nowhere, like what the fuck do they think is going to happen? on the other side, the guy in the video just drove to spawn to kill a bunch of naked guys sooo.
I honestly prefer the decreasing of the unturned fanbase but in return of better community.. better less players but those players actually use their brain instead of their ego than many player but the game is a shithole of toxic players.. also that's why i just stick with PvE, i don't care you call me noob or something, but i prefer peaceful gameplay and just love to chill with my mates in the game without being toxic
i dont mean to make anyone suffer with my point of the decreasing fanbase, but i just state my honest opinion regarding the current unturned community and also i dont really care to be honest, i mostly play on PvE with solid community and avoid PvP server unless my friend invite me to join him, but i still hope that the community will be better on the future
This Man is saying the Truth. PvE is actually Fun. People have been bitten by a Blood Thirsty Vampire, now they hate the bright Light when its Daytime called PVE. I DID NOT WANT TO ASSUME YOUR GENDER!!!
WishYourLife lol chill, i don't care if anyone on internet assuming who the hell am i, i'm just random dude on the internet. And yeah, PvE with nice community is fun, that's why i spent 1200+ hours on unturned mainly on PvE.
Here is a tip I have been using, dont just walk around with weapons in your hands, and don't approach someone looking hostile. I made a lot of friends this way
This is why I've been working on an insane size map, with the same amount of servers player interaction will be lower, so every contact is more eventful when you finally see another player.
You are referencing something called "Hero" play, @Kameding - But to play as hero requires some honour and mutual interest. Most of the Unturned community does not know what these entail. However, it is nice that you are trying to bring some of these things into the game, before it completely dies.
Kameding: PLEASE READ THIS. So your recent france survival is awesome! Just one small problem, when you streamed, KOSing was and still is a GIANT issue. I think you need at least 1 admin on, so if a player keeps getting killed, then temp ban? Also, you have players that keep the train and board-up the deadzone and become the gods of the server. Anyone reading this will know what im talking about. Remember Russia? That cancer fest? Anyway, if you do take the time to read this message, I believe you will do what's best in your mind :). Please make your servers fun again. - Steve
Kameding, Unturned is a survival game KOSing is in every game give or take. its how a survival game works you find something (pretty good) BUT, somebody doesn't have it they dont want to trade to get it so, the person without the item kills the person with the item. AND even if they are naked you dont know what they have, they can fit a minigun in there at the start, naked peoples cant be trusts do to them starting and wanting loot.
Remember in Minecraft there used to be tons of clickhackers. After 1.9 update, most of them has stopped playing or cheating. Because it brought in a factor to pvp which you CANT avoid. We should find ideas like this to stop KOSing. *drops mic*
I always get KoSed when 200% naked in Unturned in new servers. There was this one time when a guy with a gun was pointing at me and saying something in VC. I just typed in chat , "I'm deaf , could u plz type in chat?" There , he just freaking blew my head off. This game is double challenging for me because I can't hear player voices or more accurately understand them. I'm deaf but not 100% deaf but its a interplanetary difference between understanding a zombie moaning sound and a speaking digital sound.
I can't exactly remember what the games called but there was this thing where if you killed other players the creatures would than sense you and locate you. I feel like they should do that
I think that as your reputation get progressively worse, NPCs stop trading with you, worse reputation gets you shot when trying to go to an NPC area, and the worst is hunting parties are sent out to arrest or kill you until your reputation is fixed.
idk, imagine being the geared person, being friendly to the "naked". and now that you've dropped your guard, they equip a gun a lay you out. if you dont want to be KOS, leave to a different town and loot. or dont join a small mapped server that has 8 dudes 3hrs in already. or do monthly world restarts to keep a server with fresh spawns and ungeared people. become the change. dont beg devs to force change the whole game for everyone
I was playing on Yukon, first guys I met was naked like me and friendly. Later, after I grabbed some stuff, I met another guy on the scorpion-7 base, friendly too. then I met this prick in that place where you can find shotguns, he clip me down despite me saying "i'm friendly, don't shoot, don't shoot!" I wish there were more PVE servers, I really do...
Its that Achievement to kill 100 players everyone Wants it so they Kos when they like Since Arena is too Hard for People they Kos on Servers like 10 times loot when they are more powerful than the person they are killing like a beginning player because you can't lose your stuff On Steam I have the Achievement but that's from Arenas and times i have to kill someone\ Also its hard not to kill people on survival Servers because even people who have bad loot attack me which makes me not feel like to go on Populated servers so most people are better off in singleplayer
I made this achievment thanks to my friends from the community, letting me killing them again and again because im a bit new to PC gaming and i kinda suck playing.
In pvp servers, I'm always a tit for tat type of guy, That doesn't stop me from stalking around to see what you're up to, but it does mean I don't necessarily shoot. If the players I'm looking at seem to be killing others as a default interaction, I step in and shut them down. I think that's how players should be, they should only shoot if fired upon or if deemed necessary. The game should be treated as a 'second life' in the apocalypse and players should be encouraged to take precautions when interaction with players other than "If you die, you lose all your stuff." This problem is normally circumvented by a large community who don't KOS, when a few members who do KOS join. If you don't start to KOS, you may build reputation in the server to increase your chances of staying high up in the ranks longer. But with everyone KOSing and not caring about reputations, everyone is in this stand-still fight of "If I shoot I live, If I get caught I die." scenario before interacting with people. It's completely rational to act like it's a game with infinite lives, but it'd feel better if you didn't. Because if you don't treat it like there's infinite lives, you behave more politely and kinder to more people, and thus can build reputation to start towards a takeover. It's simple, but it's also effective. And when I complain about KOS, it's usually because of the point that kameding was making, but at the same time, the weapons used display this player has had time to start up. (i.e. maplestrikes, ghillie suits, grizzlies) It's really sad to see those powerful tools wasted because this player doesn't want to lose the cliff he has over other players.
I totally agree man. I mostly play sandbox modes but if I see a recently spawned dude I type in Arena chat , run the other direction and I won't shoot you. As long as they run the other way I don't really have to shoot them.
When I first got this game, I was the friendliest player alive. Until I just had enough of the toxicity, it was just too overwhelming. Everyone was killing each other and being completely reckless... what I think can solve this is adding value to each and every players character, what I mean by that is maybe a in game currency that is carried on your character. And when you die you lose all of it, should be the same with xp. Sure it will result with a lot of rage quitters, but at least the ones that stay will be respectful
i do kos only if i know that someone's stuff are more value for me than ammo i have to use to kill him, so i don't kill naked players but i hate things like tpa, x loot, shop, kits or just easy mode bc i really like first stage when surviving is hard
The only time I KOS is if I know the person is a threat like if their name comes up in death messages if they are there or if the person has killed me.
i've noticed that most experienced players dont care about dieing, i normaly make 1 or 2 cable ties sneak up behind someone with loot pull out a masterkey and tell them to put their hands in the air the common responses to them are: experienced players normaly turn around and at least try to do something, but never works for them. and if i cable tie one of these guys they kill themselfs like 6 seconds later even if they have to walk to one side of the map to the other. average player puts his hands up and drops all his items, if i have no keys i tell them how to get rid of the cable ties by spamming Q and E. new players are allways clueless. and i like using cable ties as a non lethal alternative to getting people items, and is fun see them when i forget to tell them how to scape.
Kamending I am just a person who can’t do pvp because it doesn’t work and with this problem I might actually be fine with this but the downside is I can’t play with my friends
You have valid points (and I agree with the unturned should be more survival) but KOS is valid 90% of the time. Killing nakeds is really the only time KOS is unjustifiable. In a server that makes certain necessities harder to get, killing someone is usually your best bet at getting that stuff. But of course if everything is 3x easier to get then its a similar problem, you fight everyone because you have nothing to lose. I think the real problem in unturned is how easy it can be for someone to backstab you if you do try and interact with them, at least in my eyes. There is also the under-use of restraints (handcuffs & cable ties) maybe because they are difficult to find or craft. Really, anyone is a threat. They could have buddies using them as bait even if they themselves aren't armed. There's really just a lot of things that can go wrong when interacting with someone.
Actually the reviev system is going to "Fix" some of this problem. I was in Washington with just an eaglifire and with cargo pants, and then a bandit killed me, but when he realised that i was just a naked, he apologies and gave me my loot with some military clothes.
Often times, you can tell who's aggressive by their actions. If they KoS someone else, ofc you're going to cap them for their sins. If they seem to always be on high alert, they're likely looking for PVP action. If they're flanking you, your gear is probably ending up in their wardrobe. If they have lots of base raid material, you probably already know where they got those demolition charges. Lastly, If they build a base next to an area where tons of guns spawn, you can guarantee that they're gonna go on a kill streak.
I had tried something on a creative server. I just got naked and created "friendly" , or "afk" area (couch and signs) . Results ? 24 ppl on the server and around 10 kills (too much to count) and only 1 friendly person.
One time me and a group of my steam friends were ruling a server and we had full mill gear and a metal sky base and we found a group of like 8 or 7 nakeds and we instead of killing them we recruited them and gave them full gear and our massive 12 person group continued to rule for bout a month it was awsome
My biggest issue with KOSing is how if I don't do it, someone else will do it to me and I will lose all my gear. The game punishes you for dying (which I get, but its too harsh at times) as you lose all your stuff and does little rewarding for alliancing with people. Then there's the spawn campers and the high gear people who guard loot or gear and you don't stand a chance against. It always punishes new players. That said like kinda wish pvp wasn't treated as manadatory and more like its just there if you *want* to fight others.
I think that the reason that people KOS is because if they don't, they'll get killed and if u try being nice you won't survive long. In a fight I never shoot first unless I know if the person is a rude guy and most people have a rough day, they come home and take it out on other players.
Well me and my friend still plays together. I always trusted peoples i even gave them items but once a player in 3.0 community gets weapon they will be like zombies and kill everyone they see.
They should have diseases such as the zombie disease where you will slowly turn into a zombie (u die) and memory loss where items despawn as soon as you drop them. You can also craft tablets and injections to fix yourself.
I think the game needs something like a spawn protection for one in game day for players that just spawned in against players (zombies can still kill the player) and the spawned in players cant kill other players during that ingame day.
if u guys hate KOS why not make a system where u can only kill when the guy that u want to kill is at war with you so new spawn cant be killed unless he/you agree to be with war with the guy that wants to kill you/ you want to kill the guy u want to kill
Hey kameding it’s me bugaboo I downt think you noticed but no one can beat a koser if you’re trying to be friendly because they will kill you ....... you should deal whith Treon and his gang before he turns the server into another battle feild
To be honest, you must KOS anyone, that naked dude that you spared his live could get a gun and shoot you Like one time I was playing on Washington and there was a dude with a snowman outfit I came up to him and tried to be friendly eventually I left him 5 minutes later I was shot by him.
Does kosing have anything to do with survival? I mean if there is a zombie acopolyse and you see someone your natural instinct would be to kill them, just in case.
I must say that I feel exacly what you are talking about. I once wanted to play unturned, and all I saw were servers with op kits, 20x loot etc. And on vanilla servers people are trying to kill me for no reason. Sry for bad english, and I must say that you are my favorite unturned youtuber
I hope unturned 4.0 has a few area's that should make this better, horde mode to harden friendships, arena for honing your pvp skills, rp for some nice little adventure and for some nice little wars, and SURVIVAL! the time where people get together and survive against zombies and forge friendships with your enemies or finish them so you can have the resources, basically I only want pvp in survival when there's a threat, if there's a faction war, or if there's not enough resources in a city for 2 factions and there's a little shoot out.
Kameding.... I know you wanted Unturned to be MORE survival, friendly, happy etc. . You can (maybe) change Unturned, but not the players. You are not their father (or mother) so don't try change their thoughts, thinkings etc. . You are true (don't get me wrong) at some point, but that's why the PVE mode exist! And actually a survival game should be like this. You have to be the Alpha Leader and you need to stay the Alpha Leader. Other players will try to be the Alpha Leader as well! And that's why the "KOSers" kill other players!They want to be the Alpha Leaders and controll other people's life (in the game) as they want, while enjoying their "Empire" Btw I'm not English and if this comment will make no sense to you then sorry! (It's the Translators fault... ;[ )
I have over 1900 hours in unturned , and I used to be friendly towards players and not kos . However beacuse of that I got backstabbed a lot of times and now I lost my trust in almost everyone who has some gear and pretends to be peaceful
if you play in pve rp servers to avoid kos teh real problem is them stealing your stuff and you not being able to kill them and if the admin bans the player the guy who got robbed will just lose his things and the admin wont give him a replacement and so on and so forth
At the end of the day, you can't trust a noob/naked. If you have gear, they have nothing to lose by trying to get your loot. Nakeds trying to kill naked for nothing is one thing, and i don't do that, but as a geared player i don't want to lose my gear.
I always wanted unturned to be true survival game where main problem is to survive zombies that should be stronger and more dangerous also killing fresh players and naked should have consequences just like giving a bounty or marking this guy on map ( If you have GPS ) but also when this guy will still go killing , his bounty will grow and he will be visible on map without GPS, also add dangerous weather like thunderstorms that can kill players , extreme snow blizzard or extream heat waves, also there should be Hords of Zombies traveling trough map. Destroying everything on their way, zombies incities also should walk trough it to make looting harder and more dangerous
This is so right. The Playerbase of Unturned scared itself of each other and now even those chainsaw guys who do nothing KOS. They want your Loot. And i think one of the only reasons they want your loot is, to get a gun to kill. a Giant Massecre Death Circle. I even saw People using TPA Traps to kill on PVE Servers. REALLY PEOPLE ? THATS WHAT YOU WANT ?
This always happen to me, I trust everybody and later i respawn with nothing... because they betrayed me EVERYTIME everytime it trust someone they kill me so... i dont tust anyone i just dont shoot em i just talk to them and leave.
See I only kill if they come on my land where my base is because when i help someone in need they always backstab my so I can’t try at no one apart from close comrades
I am just trying to find a friendly server and I can't and when I se a player that I don't know in unterned I get scared can you tell us the IP of the server if you want
This is also a Problem with DayZ. People treat it like a Battle Royale, instead of a Survival Game. I've had WAY more fun on both games interacting with people instead of just sniping them across the map.
honestly I have KOSed before i will admit that but i stopped because i realized that there was no point in it and shooting someone randomly while they are just trying to play the game is really annoying
i feel like more explosives like grenades and that stuff should be added, also they should be tons rarer because the makeshift grenade was added, and no one ever used it because of how common and stronger grenades are, also we need tons more explosives because we only have about 7 explosives and most of them are useless, like as i said, the makeshift grenade (sry for the comment being so long)
the game needs forced survival difficulty resulting in players working together. if players don't need to work together why would they. you have to give them a reason to be friendly. like if one man is a farmer class and the other is a soldier. one provides the food and the other protects the base from incoming zombies. perhaps give spec-ops the ability to craft ammo and have pin point accuracy while farmers are the only ones who can craft seeds but still can help fire weapons to protect the base.
KOSing comes from a mistrust in other players. Think about it, would you rather secure a kill or risk having them end you. Most of the players that i have ended up trusting went and backstabbed me. Why should i risk my own life to have a chance to make a "friend" who will probably betray me anyway?
To clarify because people are still seeming to be confused, I’m not against KOS, I’m not complaining about getting killed on a PVP server, I’m talking about the problem with KOS resulting in toxicity, for example people running around spawn shooting all nakeds so no one can start off. Also I’d love to see more interactions between players.
Kameding I agree
Kameding i remember treron
hes my friend and theres a couple reasons he killed you, you might have had some items in your inventory, and also maybe he killed you to get some negative rep dont assume he kills you because you think hes toxic.
Daniel Plays we where naked... we just respawned, then 5 minutes later he killed us
Killing someone for more negative rep is toxic lol and yeah...we were naked
I think I have a theory on how this whole situation started: (I'm probably going to be skinned alive by a ton of 9 year olds, but here I go). There are a ton of you tubers who have played unturned at least once, and a lot of these people appeal to the younger audience. Now I know from experience that we all aspire to be someone who we look up to, so these younger kids install unturned with the mindset: "Hey, I'm going to find all the great gear and be the best at this game!" And 99% of them fail because they're brand new. So now, the youngins start complaining and screaming in chat (This is not EVERYBODY, so if you're younger and you don't make people's ears explode when you get mad, thank you). This made bigger servers like unturned beast and panda hut add plugins to the game. It encourages pvp by giving semi-good gear to those who just aren't good enough to get it themselves. So now you have most of the server running around with mid tier guns and the game expects little to no violence. Yah I don't think so. I feel like if unturned 4.0 servers don't have kit plugins like all these other servers, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, we'll have a true survival game
You're right, I've been playing this game since the 2.0 and when i switched to 3.0 the community wasn't really toxic yet. But when the game really became popular that's when shit started, people shooting nakeds, kids crying around etc etc...
But I still like this game even though it turned into an arcade pvp based game. I really hope that the 4.0 will make a real change, I want my old unturned survival experience back
I mostly play on kit servers nowadays since I dont feel like losing my stuff to some koser on a vanilla server, so I play on a server that gives me stuff so I can actually play the gamr instead of getting shot to pieces after finally getting a proper basic loadout and getting sent to square one
What are you doing here
@@7BUHZCT ...?
First of all, am I... NOT allowed here?
Second of all, this was years ago and I can't be expected to remember every single comment I've left
@@aggressivebungeei am just suprised that i found you here
Try to talk to someone: gunshot to the face
Try to make friends: gunshot to the face
Being near another player: gunshot to the face
Spawn: gunshot to the face
Trusting someone and giving them item: Gunshot(Or knife) to face
*Accepts the gunshot to the face*
I remember once someone actually helped me
Made me feel good
I once saw a naked we walked past each other, I saw he had no weapons on his leg or back so I just kept on walking to then find a full Cobra mag in the back of my head... Turns out he was hiding a gun in his inventory...
I want to say i think for 4.0 if you villain your mental state becomes worse and start to hear voices and shake at random times because if you kill you will destroy your mental health. (I know this isn't really the subject but what ever)
It actually makes sense. You kill lots of people, you become more psycho and sociopathic, and you start going insane.
CrateTheM8 I WANT THIS TO BE A THING
The only plausible way to prevent KOSing (for me at least) has always been to be in a vehicle. And fortify it completely, I then find it easy to drive up to someone or a group of people and have conversations and trades without risking death. It’s all about death, especially in the server you host Kameding, which makes loot so much more valuable, because well... it’s all so much more hardcore, way more hardcore then your average vanilla server, nothing wrong with that tho.
Yes, shop vendor players like me love this rarity! You just have to position well.
One time I was on a server and I was trying to set up a shop and I found 2 players and I was talking to them and then they just murdered me on sight with bows they said I was bad later when I had a hawkhound I saw them and I killed them both.
whats ur steam link ill add u u sound good
certified gigachad
One time i saw 2 almost naked guys. I had a Eaglefire (Which i gave to them, cuz i hate that gun) instead of KOSing. After droping the gun, i organized my inventory and when i closed it, they killed me.
#KosGottaStop
Why did you trust em
Why I get thrust issues
Well that’s completely your fault for trusting them
Because of so much Kos they are probably scared
@@bigmoney3402 Why would they be scared of a random dude giving them a free gun?
The reason why we KOS nakeds is because we simply just do not trust them. For example, nakeds will do anything to get stuff, even by force. Because the way they think is, if they kill a guy with gear, they get the gear. That's why nakeds or low level tier people are incredibly risky.
U shouldn’t be scared of a punch
Im totally on the "No Kos" Side. But this Guy is right. The Unturned Community Scared itself. They made themselves hate eachother. Because one KOS´ed, a Second one, A Third One. And all those players want what ? Their Loot back. And KOS´er nakeds ? Yea they want LOOT to KILL because they are scared. Of course not all are scared. Some are just People who dont understand what a OP Kit server is and a Survival Server is.
But, for example, if someone spawns near seattle, where there are a lot of opportunities to get a gun, you will kill him to be sure that he doesn't turn against you. Spinosaurus Productions does have a really solid point. Also, why kill the guy with just a chainsaw? If you come to him, if he is a good player, he can easly kill you with the chainsaw, or even get a gun from inventory/base. I do understand what you are trying to say. Sorry if this sounds hater-ish
I perfer kos in fair play but most people dont do that.can you make a arena in your server plls kameding
I agree to some extent, if youre all decked out and you approach someone wearing only the tutorial hat and go "hello ma-" and then they just start punching you out of nowhere, like what the fuck do they think is going to happen? on the other side, the guy in the video just drove to spawn to kill a bunch of naked guys sooo.
I honestly prefer the decreasing of the unturned fanbase but in return of better community.. better less players but those players actually use their brain instead of their ego than many player but the game is a shithole of toxic players.. also that's why i just stick with PvE, i don't care you call me noob or something, but i prefer peaceful gameplay and just love to chill with my mates in the game without being toxic
i dont mean to make anyone suffer with my point of the decreasing fanbase, but i just state my honest opinion regarding the current unturned community and also i dont really care to be honest, i mostly play on PvE with solid community and avoid PvP server unless my friend invite me to join him, but i still hope that the community will be better on the future
This Man is saying the Truth. PvE is actually Fun. People have been bitten by a Blood Thirsty Vampire, now they hate the bright Light when its Daytime called PVE.
I DID NOT WANT TO ASSUME YOUR GENDER!!!
WishYourLife lol chill, i don't care if anyone on internet assuming who the hell am i, i'm just random dude on the internet. And yeah, PvE with nice community is fun, that's why i spent 1200+ hours on unturned mainly on PvE.
I have ~1600 hours and with me its pretty much the same - mainly pve.
I sometimes also play on sandbox pvp tho.
Even PvE has toxic idiots, they once blew up my car and steal my crops for no reason in PvE.
Ahh I knew this video was coming after hearing from you that that streamsniping guy would be a perfect example for this
Here is a tip I have been using, dont just walk around with weapons in your hands, and don't approach someone looking hostile. I made a lot of friends this way
Ragnaro4005 haha shooting nakes go brrt
Kosing everyone on sight is the best thing you can do.
You spare a fresh spawned guy, at the end he will still attempt to kill you.
true
This is why I've been working on an insane size map, with the same amount of servers player interaction will be lower, so every contact is more eventful when you finally see another player.
You are referencing something called "Hero" play, @Kameding - But to play as hero requires some honour and mutual interest. Most of the Unturned community does not know what these entail. However, it is nice that you are trying to bring some of these things into the game, before it completely dies.
I hope people dont kos on official servers
I tried to be nice but my first contact on console said KOS
@@davidmay9956 same haha
Insanity mode, more players you kill the skills and camera start shaking and those things
Kameding: PLEASE READ THIS.
So your recent france survival is awesome! Just one small problem, when you streamed, KOSing was and still is a GIANT issue. I think you need at least 1 admin on, so if a player keeps getting killed, then temp ban? Also, you have players that keep the train and board-up the deadzone and become the gods of the server. Anyone reading this will know what im talking about. Remember Russia? That cancer fest? Anyway, if you do take the time to read this message, I believe you will do what's best in your mind :). Please make your servers fun again.
- Steve
Once ironic some nice guy's and trusted them then we cut down some tree's and I'm just cutting then one of them just kill me with chain saw.
Kameding, Unturned is a survival game KOSing is in every game give or take. its how a survival game works you find something (pretty good) BUT, somebody doesn't have it they dont want to trade to get it so, the person without the item kills the person with the item. AND even if they are naked you dont know what they have, they can fit a minigun in there at the start, naked peoples cant be trusts do to them starting and wanting loot.
when 4.0 comes out im logging in an KOSing
Sorry for my broken english
I would love to see how for example when killing someone, Item's on him break because you know, bullets and blunt force.
Remember in Minecraft there used to be tons of clickhackers. After 1.9 update, most of them has stopped playing or cheating. Because it brought in a factor to pvp which you CANT avoid. We should find ideas like this to stop KOSing. *drops mic*
I always get KoSed when 200% naked in Unturned in new servers. There was this one time when a guy with a gun was pointing at me and saying something in VC. I just typed in chat , "I'm deaf , could u plz type in chat?" There , he just freaking blew my head off. This game is double challenging for me because I can't hear player voices or more accurately understand them. I'm deaf but not 100% deaf but its a interplanetary difference between understanding a zombie moaning sound and a speaking digital sound.
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I can't exactly remember what the games called but there was this thing where if you killed other players the creatures would than sense you and locate you. I feel like they should do that
I think that as your reputation get progressively worse, NPCs stop trading with you, worse reputation gets you shot when trying to go to an NPC area, and the worst is hunting parties are sent out to arrest or kill you until your reputation is fixed.
I looked at chat while you were walking: We need more agressive animals
Rp gets the bucket and is made fun of
kosing is always going to be a thing as long as there are people who have fun
I saw unturned trailer and instantly thought "This is how unturned was meant to be played."
There needs to be an in-game consequence for KOS, and it needs to be more than just some number on a leaderboard.
what we need is something to damage player permanently or for a long time if they get shot or something
like idk having scars
imo it would be cool
like someone shoot u in a leg and u move like 5% slower or something
idk, imagine being the geared person, being friendly to the "naked". and now that you've dropped your guard, they equip a gun a lay you out.
if you dont want to be KOS, leave to a different town and loot. or dont join a small mapped server that has 8 dudes 3hrs in already. or do monthly world restarts to keep a server with fresh spawns and ungeared people. become the change. dont beg devs to force change the whole game for everyone
I was playing on Yukon, first guys I met was naked like me and friendly. Later, after I grabbed some stuff, I met another guy on the scorpion-7 base, friendly too.
then I met this prick in that place where you can find shotguns, he clip me down despite me saying "i'm friendly, don't shoot, don't shoot!"
I wish there were more PVE servers, I really do...
Its that Achievement to kill 100 players everyone Wants it so they Kos when they like
Since Arena is too Hard for People they Kos on Servers like 10 times loot when they are more powerful than the person they are killing like a beginning player because you can't lose your stuff
On Steam I have the Achievement but that's from Arenas and times i have to kill someone\
Also its hard not to kill people on survival Servers because even people who have bad loot attack me which makes me not feel like to go on Populated servers so most people are better off in singleplayer
I made this achievment thanks to my friends from the community, letting me killing them again and again because im a bit new to PC gaming and i kinda suck playing.
In pvp servers, I'm always a tit for tat type of guy,
That doesn't stop me from stalking around to see what you're up to, but it does mean I don't necessarily shoot.
If the players I'm looking at seem to be killing others as a default interaction, I step in and shut them down.
I think that's how players should be, they should only shoot if fired upon or if deemed necessary. The game should be treated as a 'second life' in the apocalypse and players should be encouraged to take precautions when interaction with players other than "If you die, you lose all your stuff." This problem is normally circumvented by a large community who don't KOS, when a few members who do KOS join. If you don't start to KOS, you may build reputation in the server to increase your chances of staying high up in the ranks longer. But with everyone KOSing and not caring about reputations, everyone is in this stand-still fight of "If I shoot I live, If I get caught I die." scenario before interacting with people. It's completely rational to act like it's a game with infinite lives, but it'd feel better if you didn't. Because if you don't treat it like there's infinite lives, you behave more politely and kinder to more people, and thus can build reputation to start towards a takeover. It's simple, but it's also effective.
And when I complain about KOS, it's usually because of the point that kameding was making, but at the same time, the weapons used display this player has had time to start up. (i.e. maplestrikes, ghillie suits, grizzlies) It's really sad to see those powerful tools wasted because this player doesn't want to lose the cliff he has over other players.
If I see someone with a gun I will most likely feel threatened unless the gun is in safety mode
I totally agree man. I mostly play sandbox modes but if I see a recently spawned dude I type in Arena chat , run the other direction and I won't shoot you. As long as they run the other way I don't really have to shoot them.
When I first got this game, I was the friendliest player alive. Until I just had enough of the toxicity, it was just too overwhelming. Everyone was killing each other and being completely reckless... what I think can solve this is adding value to each and every players character, what I mean by that is maybe a in game currency that is carried on your character. And when you die you lose all of it, should be the same with xp. Sure it will result with a lot of rage quitters, but at least the ones that stay will be respectful
And the this is why we have turrets defending our home. But good luck getting enough target finders to make turrets.
This video is so true, i love pvp sandbox but in survival you shouldn’t kill everyone you see
i do kos only if i know that someone's stuff are more value for me than ammo i have to use to kill him, so i don't kill naked players but i hate things like tpa, x loot, shop, kits or just easy mode bc i really like first stage when surviving is hard
The only time I KOS is if I know the person is a threat like if their name comes up in death messages if they are there or if the person has killed me.
i've noticed that most experienced players dont care about dieing, i normaly make 1 or 2 cable ties sneak up behind someone with loot pull out a masterkey and tell them to put their hands in the air the common responses to them are:
experienced players normaly turn around and at least try to do something, but never works for them.
and if i cable tie one of these guys they kill themselfs like 6 seconds later even if they have to walk to one side of the map to the other.
average player puts his hands up and drops all his items, if i have no keys i tell them how to get rid of the cable ties by spamming Q and E.
new players are allways clueless.
and i like using cable ties as a non lethal alternative to getting people items, and is fun see them when i forget to tell them how to scape.
Isnt kos only in rp????
bruh I kill nakeds on sight. I want unturned 4 to be a battle royale
Good Vid btw
You have arena already
Sure, it can be a battle royale, but I think that players should have to worry about other factors during combat.
you savage p9nda
P9nda LOL so its not just me
Noicee
I have only one mindset
Kill or be killed
Surviving on a multiplayer server is almost impossible except if there's only 3-6 people
Kamending I am just a person who can’t do pvp because it doesn’t work and with this problem I might actually be fine with this but the downside is I can’t play with my friends
You have valid points (and I agree with the unturned should be more survival) but KOS is valid 90% of the time. Killing nakeds is really the only time KOS is unjustifiable. In a server that makes certain necessities harder to get, killing someone is usually your best bet at getting that stuff. But of course if everything is 3x easier to get then its a similar problem, you fight everyone because you have nothing to lose. I think the real problem in unturned is how easy it can be for someone to backstab you if you do try and interact with them, at least in my eyes. There is also the under-use of restraints (handcuffs & cable ties) maybe because they are difficult to find or craft. Really, anyone is a threat. They could have buddies using them as bait even if they themselves aren't armed. There's really just a lot of things that can go wrong when interacting with someone.
Actually the reviev system is going to "Fix" some of this problem. I was in Washington with just an eaglifire and with cargo pants, and then a bandit killed me, but when he realised that i was just a naked, he apologies and gave me my loot with some military clothes.
Thats nice
When i was younger i used to play unturned,and if i found someone
I Just surrendered and waited for a response since i was always killed ._.
yep I just hope the unturned 4.0 will fix this kos
Often times, you can tell who's aggressive by their actions. If they KoS someone else, ofc you're going to cap them for their sins. If they seem to always be on high alert, they're likely looking for PVP action. If they're flanking you, your gear is probably ending up in their wardrobe. If they have lots of base raid material, you probably already know where they got those demolition charges. Lastly, If they build a base next to an area where tons of guns spawn, you can guarantee that they're gonna go on a kill streak.
Great vid kam👍
,,He just killed five nakeds for no reason at all! Why? Because... He wanted to!" -3:20
2018 Kameding
WoW Kameding! I'm proud of ya!
I had tried something on a creative server. I just got naked and created "friendly" , or "afk" area (couch and signs) . Results ? 24 ppl on the server and around 10 kills (too much to count) and only 1 friendly person.
Unturned servers logics
"###### :No KoS 24/7" 1/24 player "######/i,/v,/maxskills 24/7" 28/24 player
One time me and a group of my steam friends were ruling a server and we had full mill gear and a metal sky base and we found a group of like 8 or 7 nakeds and we instead of killing them we recruited them and gave them full gear and our massive 12 person group continued to rule for bout a month it was awsome
My biggest issue with KOSing is how if I don't do it, someone else will do it to me and I will lose all my gear. The game punishes you for dying (which I get, but its too harsh at times) as you lose all your stuff and does little rewarding for alliancing with people.
Then there's the spawn campers and the high gear people who guard loot or gear and you don't stand a chance against. It always punishes new players. That said like kinda wish pvp wasn't treated as manadatory and more like its just there if you *want* to fight others.
I think that the reason that people KOS is because if they don't, they'll get killed and if u try being nice you won't survive long. In a fight I never shoot first unless I know if the person is a rude guy and most people have a rough day, they come home and take it out on other players.
its like listening to my own inner monologue lol
"hey chill! is this guy seriuos right now?"
Well me and my friend still plays together. I always trusted peoples i even gave them items but once a player in 3.0 community gets weapon they will be like zombies and kill everyone they see.
Yep. That's how it went for me.
They should have diseases such as the zombie disease where you will slowly turn into a zombie (u die) and memory loss where items despawn as soon as you drop them. You can also craft tablets and injections to fix yourself.
I think the game needs something like a spawn protection for one in game day for players that just spawned in against players (zombies can still kill the player) and the spawned in players cant kill other players during that ingame day.
if u guys hate KOS
why not make a system where u can only kill when the guy that u want to kill is at war with you
so new spawn cant be killed unless he/you agree to be with war with the guy that wants to kill you/ you want to kill the guy u want to kill
A camp axe isnt going to overpower a gun? I killed a guy with a pitchfork and he had a viper.
It's not just because why not. Nakeds can become geared and kill you quite quickly if someone lets em in a military base. That's why I KOS.
Hey kameding it’s me bugaboo I downt think you noticed but no one can beat a koser if you’re trying to be friendly because they will kill you ....... you should deal whith Treon and his gang before he turns the server into another battle feild
To be honest, you must KOS anyone, that naked dude that you spared his live could get a gun and shoot you
Like one time I was playing on Washington and there was a dude with a snowman outfit I came up to him and tried to be friendly eventually I left him 5 minutes later I was shot by him.
Does kosing have anything to do with survival? I mean if there is a zombie acopolyse and you see someone your natural instinct would be to kill them, just in case.
I must say that I feel exacly what you are talking about. I once wanted to play unturned, and all I saw were servers with op kits, 20x loot etc. And on vanilla servers people are trying to kill me for no reason. Sry for bad english, and I must say that you are my favorite unturned youtuber
I hope unturned 4.0 has a few area's that should make this better, horde mode to harden friendships, arena for honing your pvp skills, rp for some nice little adventure and for some nice little wars, and SURVIVAL! the time where people get together and survive against zombies and forge friendships with your enemies or finish them so you can have the resources, basically I only want pvp in survival when there's a threat, if there's a faction war, or if there's not enough resources in a city for 2 factions and there's a little shoot out.
Kameding.... I know you wanted Unturned to be MORE survival, friendly, happy etc. .
You can (maybe) change Unturned, but not the players. You are not their father (or mother)
so don't try change their thoughts, thinkings etc. . You are true (don't get me wrong) at some point, but that's why the PVE mode exist! And actually a survival game should be like this.
You have to be the Alpha Leader and you need to stay the Alpha Leader. Other players will try to be the Alpha Leader as well! And that's why the "KOSers" kill other players!They want to be the Alpha Leaders and controll other people's life (in the game) as they want, while enjoying their "Empire"
Btw I'm not English and if this comment will make no sense to you then sorry!
(It's the Translators fault... ;[ )
That’s not what a survival game should entail, go play battle Royale Instead.
How are you?
I have over 1900 hours in unturned , and I used to be friendly towards players and not kos . However beacuse of that I got backstabbed a lot of times and now I lost my trust in almost everyone who has some gear and pretends to be peaceful
I don't usually KOS naked people but all the naked people I killed were trying to kill me.
The thing is I try to talk to people but they just Kos so I often Kos them before they can shoot
if you play in pve rp servers to avoid kos teh real problem is them stealing your stuff and you not being able to kill them and if the admin bans the player the guy who got robbed will just lose his things and the admin wont give him a replacement and so on and so forth
At the end of the day, you can't trust a noob/naked. If you have gear, they have nothing to lose by trying to get your loot. Nakeds trying to kill naked for nothing is one thing, and i don't do that, but as a geared player i don't want to lose my gear.
I always wanted unturned to be true survival game where main problem is to survive zombies that should be stronger and more dangerous also killing fresh players and naked should have consequences just like giving a bounty or marking this guy on map ( If you have GPS ) but also when this guy will still go killing , his bounty will grow and he will be visible on map without GPS, also add dangerous weather like thunderstorms that can kill players , extreme snow blizzard or extream heat waves, also there should be Hords of Zombies traveling trough map. Destroying everything on their way, zombies incities also should walk trough it to make looting harder and more dangerous
What are the good systems to stop KOSing? I would love to hear them
well a system like in carpat, the worse ur rep goes, the higher the prices go, including food
I've made some pretty good friends on Unturned, and even ran my own server(its harder than it looks, but it taught me maturity
This is so right. The Playerbase of Unturned scared itself of each other and now even those chainsaw guys who do nothing KOS. They want your Loot. And i think one of the only reasons they want your loot is, to get a gun to kill. a Giant Massecre Death Circle. I even saw People using TPA Traps to kill on PVE Servers. REALLY PEOPLE ? THATS WHAT YOU WANT ?
If anyone dosen't know, KOS means Kill On Sight.
Have a feeling that 4.0 will turn into the Old School Runescape and Runescape 3 situation
Every player will go to 4.0 and it will try it , if they like they stay,if they don't they go back to 3.0.
This always happen to me, I trust everybody and later i respawn with nothing... because they betrayed me EVERYTIME everytime it trust someone they kill me so... i dont tust anyone i just dont shoot em i just talk to them and leave.
See I only kill if they come on my land where my base is because when i help someone in need they always backstab my so I can’t try at no one apart from close comrades
I am just trying to find a friendly server and I can't and when I se a player that I don't know in unterned I get scared can you tell us the IP of the server if you want
I think that Nelson should make Unturned 3.0 more pvp geared, but have 4.0 a survival
This is also a Problem with DayZ. People treat it like a Battle Royale, instead of a Survival Game. I've had WAY more fun on both games interacting with people instead of just sniping them across the map.
honestly I have KOSed before i will admit that but i stopped because i realized that there was no point in it and shooting someone randomly while they are just trying to play the game is really annoying
2 years later nothing has changed
i hope there is a system in 4.0 were you can only pvp others with guns
i feel like more explosives like grenades and that stuff should be added, also they should be tons rarer because the makeshift grenade was added, and no one ever used it because of how common and stronger grenades are, also we need tons more explosives because we only have about 7 explosives and most of them are useless, like as i said, the makeshift grenade (sry for the comment being so long)
the game needs forced survival difficulty resulting in players working together. if players don't need to work together why would they. you have to give them a reason to be friendly. like if one man is a farmer class and the other is a soldier. one provides the food and the other protects the base from incoming zombies. perhaps give spec-ops the ability to craft ammo and have pin point accuracy while farmers are the only ones who can craft seeds but still can help fire weapons to protect the base.
I cant play on your server Kameding,because ping is 400 for me. and its soo hard to get any item on your server,even clothes,its really hard to find
fredily i got killed in like 10 seconds thats totally friendly
I remember when i played on fugdys server and they keept killing me so i killed them to and i got banned for KOS-ing yaaaaaay
I got banned for Kos on a server,yet everyone else was constantly PVPing on a creative rp.
KOSing comes from a mistrust in other players. Think about it, would you rather secure a kill or risk having them end you. Most of the players that i have ended up trusting went and backstabbed me. Why should i risk my own life to have a chance to make a "friend" who will probably betray me anyway?