Rainy Day Boxing brings you a compilation of various boxing legends taking about the great Rocky Marciano, with some motivational highlights and footage thrown in there.
Hearing these guys talk to and about each other in those days... With respect and admiration. Conducting themselves with poise and dignity. Seeing Walcott and Marciano talk to each other like that... It really stands in a stark contrast to a lot of the dumb shit we see in the modern era.
According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…” Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.” Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!” Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!" Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow! Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up I asked Sonny what happened and he said 'I hit you" Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams." "When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man. Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow. Why? Simply the history of kids working on the farm. However the story would seem to accentuate the point of how strong Liston was. He grew up with a father that eventually disappeared and a mother who was on and off drugs. He use to hang out in abandoned houses and hide from other people. By the time he was twelve he had been arrested for street robberies and burglary around Brooklyn. He was rescued out of a orphanage/ boys home for juvenile offenders by Cus D’Amato not because he was a shining knight but he could make money off his athletic talent. Liston was a different breed; what a specimen.
"Of all the men I fought in boxing, Sonny Liston was the scariest." -- Muhammad Ali "He's the meanest fighter that ever lived. No one's more intimidating. Not even myself." -- Mike Tyson "Liston compares favorably with any of the heavyweights of the past. Any of them. When somebody asks me, How does Liston compare with Joe Louis?' I have to stop and think. So you know how good a fighter Liston is." -- Cus D'Amato "Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." -- George Foreman "Possibly the greatest left jab in the history of the heavyweight division. That left jab could go through brick walls." -- Bert Sugar "I boxed heavyweights for four years till I realized Sonny Liston wasn't my cup of tea. When I saw him come on the scene, I said I'm going to get back down where I belong." -- Willie Pastrano "When you got hit by Sonny Liston's jab, it felt like you were getting hit with a telephone pole." -- Ray Schoeninger "Nobody hit those bags like Sonny. He tore bags up. He could turn that hook, put everything behind it. Turn and snap. Bam! Why, he could knock you across the room with a jab. I saw him knock guys out with a straight jab. Bam! In the ring, Sonny was a killing machine." -- Johnny Tacco "Liston could scowl as hard as any man in or out of the ring. And, of course, he invented the big stare." -- Joe Louis "When Sonny gave you the evil eye - I don't care who you were - you shrunk to two feet tall. And one thing more; he could fight like hell. They forget it now, but when Liston was champ, some people thought he was the greatest heavyweight of all time." -- Harold Conrad "Liston was the biggest puncher I ever fought." -- Chuck Wepner "If you got hit with the right hand, you wouldn't get up." -- Floyd Patterson Liston was the most powerful intimidating Heavyweight ever. He never gets enough credit bcz of the two Ali fights which were dubious to say the least. Ali was seen as the bright new future and Sonny was forced to step aside, then found dead in really suspicious circumstances when he might "talk" about the deceit. His life story is better than any fiction novel, he deserves more respect than he gets. Before the first Clay fight Joe Louis told Sonny that he was going to bet on him. *"Joe, save your money,"* Sonny said... (Sonny obviously knew what was gonna happen) (It's in Liston's biography).
From the book 'The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights' -- "'During the first Liston-Ali fight at the Convention Hall in Miami Beach on February 25, 1964, Sonny had a bad left shoulder. He had gone to see Joe Louis' doctor who treated him for bursitis, but there wasn't enough time for the treatment to work. Sonny was around 45 years old at the time which was a well kept secret. His oldest sister wrote he was born 1919 a year after the Great War. He asked the Florida Boxing Commission for a postponement of the fight. He was turned down and fought the six rounds with the damaged left shoulder, which he completely tore up during the fight."' "'In the second fight at St. Dominic’s Hall in Lewiston, Maine, on May 25, 1965 a really bizarre situation developed. According to Gallender, Malcolm X's people had a hit out on Ali (Ali sided with the rival Elijah Muhammad). Elijah's Black Muslims kidnapped Liston's wife and son. Sonny was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again! The fight lasted one round with Liston going down from the famous 'Phantom Punch'."' Argh. This incompetent SOB of a referee. *Ali never went to a neutral corner, only then can the count begin.* Worst decision of all time. Obviously Liston's age (20yrs older than Ali) wasn't enough to secure Ali a win. Liston's kids had to be kidnapped by Ali's friends (Nation of Islam). ( Ali undoubtedly won both fights. *It's just nice to understand why and how they were predetermined illegitimate wins* )
From the book 'The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights' -- "'During the first Liston-Ali fight at the Convention Hall in Miami Beach on February 25, 1964, Sonny had a bad left shoulder. He had gone to see Joe Louis' doctor who treated him for bursitis, but there wasn't enough time for the treatment to work. Sonny was around 45 years old at the time which was a well kept secret. His oldest sister wrote he was born 1919 a year after the Great War. He asked the Florida Boxing Commission for a postponement of the fight. He was turned down and fought the six rounds with the damaged left shoulder, which he completely tore up during the fight."' "'In the second fight at St. Dominic’s Hall in Lewiston, Maine, on May 25, 1965 a really bizarre situation developed. According to Gallender, Elijah Muhammad's Black Muslims kidnapped Liston's wife and son. Sonny was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again! The fight lasted one round with Liston going down from the famous 'Phantom Punch'."'
He surely was the most hard working boxer ever with ali , tyson and holyfield and his hardwork even made his physical attributes shine more but I still won't say he wasn't genetically gifted. He's the hardest hitting heavyweight ever after probably the bronze bomber 💣
@@PowerBattles joe louis himself said that he hits the hardest Rocky broke ali in a sparring Not tyson fury but deontay wilder hits Harder for sure but that's it. No one else than him.
@@Sara_Sky_Suttonlet's hear about Sonny liston you racist troll? Rocky didn't like gay people so what that's his problem and he also served by boxing in the Army
Y'all white Marciano lovers fail to ever mention Marciano's Forced retirement. Why? Because Marciano couldn't take the pain anymore from two confirmed nose surgeries, hand surgery, hundreds of stitches, chronic back pain and constant migraines cause his head was used as a Pinata constantly gettin smacked around,, here,, you hit me five times,, and I'll hit you back one time,, Duh. And all that talk about retiring for his family nonsense was simply a bull•••• publicity stunt because he immediately abandoned his family and left them penniless when he perished.
You white people should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family.
he is the odd case of being the favorite yet underdog at the same time. Never lost yet statistically so disadvantaged: short reach, short height, small fists, clumsy footwork. Just pure heart and willpower. The fact that he was so sickly as an infant that the doctor said it was up to his fighting spirit if he is gonna survive. Man was born to defy the odds.
@@wambokodavid7109oh give me a fcking break!!!! that's just racist freaking stupidity!!! Rocky was doing shit inside there you can't understand!!! His style absolutely smothered his opponents reach and jab making them obsolete and taking away most of his opponents main weapons. His style absolutely maximized his advantages and and made him hard to hit!!! He controlled the ring and head movement. Francis didn't land 6 punches the last two rounds while rocky landed more than 80 POWER SHOTS PER ROUND AND usually over 100! He destroyed 4 all time greats! He destroyed everyone in his division who had claim to the title including the British champion who had beaten two former American champions. Ezzard Charles was the holyfield of his day and while rocky walked around at 200 lbs he learned from ezzard Charles to chew his food and spit it out because those guys already hit hard and needed stamina and endurance to fight like that! This is the generation that Crossed over with Ali and trained Ali and Foreman but you freaking think you're better or got something to say? Just STFU.
little white Marciano could train 1000 years but prime Ali would still crush him. Since Marciano struggled with light heavyweight Charles who was a good boxer, but was smaller weaker and slower than Ali, what makes you think he'd do better against Ali? Could you imagine 41 year old light heavyweight Archie Moore busting up King Fury and Big George Foreman or any of the great Super Heavyweights? Yet little white Marciano had all he could handle and was floored with one glancing shot from the light heavyweight grandfather.
236 lb Ike Ibeabuchi holds the Heavyweight record for most punches ever thrown against David Tua. Super Heavyweight Ibeabuchi outworked and showed more heart than little Rocky was ever capable of. No Super Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, he believed that nobody could beat him. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them, and had a ridiculous workrate. It's laughable to even to even think about little 188 lb Marciano vs. 245 lb Ibeabuchi. Ike woulda walked through little Rocky like a hot spoon going through butter.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today. Sonny Liston's arms were like tree trunks, and his two 15 inch ham-handed fist were made for destruction. He was able to generate incredible bone breaking teeth shattering leverage with his 84" reach. Nobody goes toe to toe with Sonny, not even Big George. Liston would have KO'd Rocky in one round. Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today. The less said about 254 lb Humphrey Jackson the better. He only had 7 fights as a pro and had found a way to be KO'd by a guy with 1 fight. So this was little white Rocky's so called authentic Heavyweight opponent he faced? Another Typical Undercard C-Level Factually Marciano would bust a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb. It's in his biographies.
My nephew Billy has explained how good you are and why. Apparently there's a guy by the name of Gregory Rochette that has been harassing people for 10 years. Billy said, "you contain him and put him in his place." I wish you good health and happiness. Carry on.
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Of course. We see it today. Big Bang Zhang has humility and mutual respect. Parker does as well. Manny Pacquiao and Sugar Ray Leonard had mutual respect. Hey it was Rocky that served 2 years in military prison for felony assault and robbery.
Take note that Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore NEVER said they could have taken Rocky out IF they had fought Rocky earlier in their careers when they were younger!! Respect.
236 lb Ike Ibeabuchi holds the Heavyweight record for most punches ever thrown against David Tua. Super Heavyweight Ibeabuchi outworked and showed more heart than little Rocky was ever capable of. No Super Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, he believed that nobody could beat him. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them, and had a ridiculous workrate. It's laughable to even to even think about little 188 lb Marciano vs. 245 lb Ibeabuchi. Ike woulda walked through little Rocky like a hot spoon going through butter.
People describes little white Marciano as being so ferocious that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Marciano vids are filled with fan boys exaggerated-hyperbole-comments about Rocky's power. But what people fails to tell everyone is that LaStarza (with all his "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels") simply had minor surgery and was fightin exactly 6 months later. Layne only had 4 broken teeth and was fightin exactly 3 months later - Wiki. These are all normal boxing injuries. Notice how these Marciano lovers never wanna discuss his injuries? Like 2 confirmed nose surgeries, hundreds of stitches, chronic back pain and constant migraines cause his head was used like a Pinata constantly gettin smacked around, here, you hit me 5 times and I'll hit you back one time, Duh.
*Ike Ibeabuchi vs. David Tua threw 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Super Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226 lb Tua's record stood at 27-0 23 KO's while 236 lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0 12 KO's. This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step.* *21 months later, 245 lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up and coming Super Heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was now 20-0 with 15 KO's and only 26 years old.* (Byrd would later become two-time Heavyweight champion). *No Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power, fierce determination and no fear of anybody. He believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils.* *((To claim little Marciano's endurance was better than everyone else's endurance is not only laughable but absurd and Super Heavyweights Ibeabuchi/Tua just proved it when they threw a record breaking 1,730 haymakers! The way Rocky fans go on and on about how he's the best conditioned fighter that ever lived is absolute nonsense. So Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Marvin Hagler, Manny Pacquiao, David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi never trained? What a Joke. Little 184 lb Marciano gets flattened by the 245 lb prodigy Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not debatable!!!))*
@MrCarpen7er He was a great fighter but he was not the greatest of all time simply because he fought guys who were older and past their time, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, would have definitely stopped Rocky...Facts
Like Cus D'Amato said, he was a very smart fighter. He used his natural "clumsy" style to make himself harder to hit, to allow himself to get close enough to pound away. You can see ring intelligence by noticing who adapts best throughout the fight. Who is able to take what the other guy is doing and get their own shots in while nullifying their opponent. It wasn't just pure determination, but maybe 70% attitude and 30% style, something like that.
Angelo Dundee alsol said that marciano was far more intelligent in the ring that people realized. he was not always this I hit you you hit me fighter. He knew how to absorb the blows that were thrown, he had defensive skills. My only wondering about Marciano was how would he have fought against really bigger men. The only great boxer he fought was was way heavier than him was Joe Louis, and a past his prmie Louis, but he still did very well if you consdier that Louis was a favorite going into the fight. I cnanot thaink of that Cuban boxers name right now, though last name Valdez. that boxter would have had a 20 pound weight advantage, and might have been tgougher that Lastarza, and most certainly Cockell, who Valdez knocked out. Sonty Liston though would have proablably stopped him.
@@elnick1000Archie Moore had just beaten nino Valdez and he had many losses. Rocky had big opponents but hims , walcott ezzard Charles and Moore basically cleaned them all out. Rockys biggest opponent was 6' 5 259 lbs. Rockys brothers said the bigger ones were easier for him. He picked them apart but had more trouble with faster good fighter alike ezzard Charles and walcott. Rocky was low to the ground and his style absolutely smothered his opponents reach and jab making them obsolete on the inside. Bert Suger said he watched Rocky getting hit ringside against such a big Heavyweight it was lifting both of Rockys feet off the canvas but wasn't fazing him. He also said Rockys right hand punch was the most deadly weapon ever brought into the square circle.
@@elnick1000 It would have gone one of two ways. If we bring a prime Rocky to 2024 with his 1952 body size, he would not be a heavyweight. He would fight one weight below HW. OR, by bringing him to 2024 and giving him a lifetime of the best training, the best nutrition, the best medical technology, the best equipment (ie, shoes), etc., he very well may have been a couple inches taller and 20 lb heavier, which would make him a small heavyweight in this generation. We'll never really know. As it has been said, he could only fight the men they put in front of him, and he did do that. He never ducked any fighter. He had no fear in the ring.
@@ScottHendrix-yz3du Regarding Valdez, he had won a split decision over Charles, but Charles go the title fight. Valdez had been number one contender by Ring Magzine for two years. Also, sad no footagle of the fight availalbe, when he lost the second time to Moore, Valdez had felt he was robbed. I think Marciano would have beaten Valdez, but it would have been tough, and not as easy as when he beat Cockell, who Valdez would defeat by KO in Britain.
@@James_T_Finnegan ANd by the way, Bennie Freynolds got beat up by Robert Mitchum apparently. Also felt that Marciano should have fought Nino Valdez. He was number one contender for nearly two yrs by Ring Magazine, asnd would have outweighted Rock by 20 pounds. That would have been good on his resume. HIs win over Louis though can not really be discounted. While certainly not the boxer of 10 years previously, he was still formidable, and was actaully a favorite going into the fight.
@@liebebile6515 Is Usyk 5' 9 184bs with tiny 67" flyweight reach? Nope. He's 6' 3" 223 lb Super Heavyweight with 78" reach. Besides, low-power Usyk will be finished after his next fight. Usyk won't even come close to cleaning out the Heavyweight division.
No boxer in the history ever had anywhere as much stamina as Rocky, who always threw power punches with full force until the last round, and never let his opponents breathe! Rocky was so terrifyingly tough, he immediately got up after taking a perfectly timed punch from the legendary Archie Moore who said himself it was as hard as he ever hit anyone in his career and looked like nothing happened to him at all. Marciano hit so hard, that when researchers from the millitary tested his explosive energy, they discovered that it was comparable to a piercing bullet. Rocky's spectactular trainer Charley Goldman developed his brilliant style in which he always stayed very low and hard to hit well if at all. THIS is how unstoppable Rocky Marciano was
This came from Rocky’s determination in his heart, his cardio was so good because he endured grueling long runs and training sessions, he was determined to live a consistent life of dedication to the sport of boxing for his entire career, no booze, no women, no parties, just pure hard work every day of the year.
@@Robert_Isaac_Cunningham Liston should be ranked very high among heavyweight champions as one of the greatest. I feel I always honor him by my jumping rope to the James Brown song "Night Train".
According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…” Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.” Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!” Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!" Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow! Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up I asked Sonny what happened and he said 'I hit you" Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams." "When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man. Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow. Why? Simply the history of kids working on the farm. However the story would seem to accentuate the point of how strong Liston was. He grew up with a father that eventually disappeared and a mother who was on and off drugs. He use to hang out in abandoned houses and hide from other people. By the time he was twelve he had been arrested for street robberies and burglary around Brooklyn. He was rescued out of a orphanage/ boys home for juvenile offenders by Cus D’Amato not because he was a shining knight but he could make money off his athletic talent. Liston was a different breed; what a specimen.
"Of all the men I fought in boxing, Sonny Liston was the scariest." -- Muhammad Ali "He's the meanest fighter that ever lived. No one's more intimidating. Not even myself." -- Mike Tyson "Liston compares favorably with any of the heavyweights of the past. Any of them. When somebody asks me, How does Liston compare with Joe Louis?' I have to stop and think. So you know how good a fighter Liston is." -- Cus D'Amato "Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." -- George Foreman "Possibly the greatest left jab in the history of the heavyweight division. That left jab could go through brick walls." -- Bert Sugar "I boxed heavyweights for four years till I realized Sonny Liston wasn't my cup of tea. When I saw him come on the scene, I said I'm going to get back down where I belong." -- Willie Pastrano "When you got hit by Sonny Liston's jab, it felt like you were getting hit with a telephone pole." -- Ray Schoeninger "Nobody hit those bags like Sonny. He tore bags up. He could turn that hook, put everything behind it. Turn and snap. Bam! Why, he could knock you across the room with a jab. I saw him knock guys out with a straight jab. Bam! In the ring, Sonny was a killing machine." -- Johnny Tacco "Liston could scowl as hard as any man in or out of the ring. And, of course, he invented the big stare." -- Joe Louis "When Sonny gave you the evil eye - I don't care who you were - you shrunk to two feet tall. And one thing more; he could fight like hell. They forget it now, but when Liston was champ, some people thought he was the greatest heavyweight of all time." -- Harold Conrad "Liston was the biggest puncher I ever fought." -- Chuck Wepner "If you got hit with the right hand, you wouldn't get up." -- Floyd Patterson Liston was the most powerful intimidating Heavyweight ever. He never gets enough credit bcz of the two Ali fights which were dubious to say the least. Ali was seen as the bright new future and Sonny was forced to step aside, then found dead in really suspicious circumstances when he might "talk" about the deceit. His life story is better than any fiction novel, he deserves more respect than he gets. Before the first Clay fight Joe Louis told Sonny that he was going to bet on him. *"Joe, save your money,"* Sonny said... (Sonny obviously knew what was gonna happen) (It's in Liston's biography).
Marciano's 3rd fight against 175 lb Eddie Ross's career 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Anyone who says he didn't have technique look at his knock out of Jesery Joe Wallcott and that was in the 13th round as well and he times that punch perfectly one of the best knockouts in world history
Best conditioned Heavyweight boxer of all time he would work up to running 15 miles so over a half marathon every single day in training. Modern heavyweights run 3 to 6 miles 3/4 times a week! People call him small I'm suprised he weighed so much with that cardio
Just a simple and honest question. How the hell do you know Modern Heavyweights only run 3 to 6 miles only 3 or 4 times per week? U don't!!! U don't have a clue who runs what and when!!!
Also Heavyweight was only 175 lbs back then so Rocky definitely does not represent all Heavyweight categories and Super Heavyweight categories. The average Heavyweight today weighs 250 similar to Joshua and Parker. Zhang weighs 285,, Rocky 184.
Hands down the greatest cardio of any human being to ever put on boxing gloves!! AND of any boxer prior to gloves as well! Sonny Liston is so lucky that he wasn’t ranked high enough until Rock was retired for a few years!
A legend no doubt but miles from the greatest. Would’ve lost crazy lopsided decisions to the likes of Ali and Homes. A prime Louis would’ve walked through him too.
It was in the 1970s, I walked into an Irish bar in NYC. It had old and current black and white photos of boxing greats (when bars had boxing photos hung along the walls). One photo caught my eye and I couldn't stop staring at it. It was a photo I never saw before or afterwards and I can never find on the internet, so it must've been from a private collection. It was a photo of Rocky Marciano punching a heavy bag. What impressed me the most was that he looked like he was carved out of granite. I can still remember that photo to this day. It was awesome!!!
@@kartzstormstool861You a clown. Ali himself respected Marciano and stated multiple times he would have been his toughest opponent if they fought, saying it could go either way. Who are you to casually dismiss his abilities and assessment ? No one. Sit back down on that couch.
Keep in mind when he won the boxing world title he had only put on gloves 6 years prior. It would be the equalivant of Jake Paul right now fighting Usyk or Fury and knocking them out cold with one of the best punches ever thrown in boxing history
I totally disagree with people who say that Rocky did not have good foot work and skills. That’s the legend, but it doesn’t really make any sense. Think about the fact that this guy had extremely short arms, and yet somehow always managed to get inside, even with elusive fighters. That takes extremely, adept foot work and movement. Also, the way that he used space and cut off the ring in order to create the opportunity for his gazelle punches, you can see that he was not the knuckle dragging lummox that he’s made out to be. He moved extremely well and with great efficiency of energy. He was also an incredibly accurate puncher who had a gift for how to use leverage from every imaginable angle. Very few fighters could be as powerful from so many angular positions and this made him dangerous from every imaginable posture. Most fighters can only throw their really hard stuff from two or three different positions, but Rocky had murderous power from almost any posture.
Determination. It's not what makes a strong fighter, or man, or woman, but a strong person. Being able to see yourself candidly and surpass the limits that you're told you have. Do your best, for you, and you'll surprise even yourself.
@@sorshiaemms5959 Foreman won his Heavyweight Championship of the World belt weighing exactly 250 lbs! Correct? Don't matter anyhow cuz Foreman beats 5' 9" 184 lb Rocky at any weight!
Rocky Marciano was in the "holy trinity" of the the greatest boxers of all time with Carlos Monzon and Sugar Ray Robinson. He was also IMO! The greatest conditioned athlete of any athlete in any sport in history if you know how he trained. It was INSANE.
I wish Rocky had lived a long life. He worked so hard, brought his family and parents out of financial difficulties and was a true champion in the ring and outside of the ring. Live eternally in peace with Christ and the angels dear champion.
I think because Rocky Marciano's style was so unorthodox that many people saw and still see him as an awkward fighter with powerful punches. When in reality he was a smart fighter who made a style that worked best for him.
In the last round of the archie moore fight before Marciano knocked him out he threw 97 punches and landed 67%! His accuracy was amazing modern heavyweights punch stats don't come close.
@@James_T_Finnegan why are you so butt hurt about Marciano. We've had our discussion on the subject a week ago. The argument can go on and on without a conclusive answer but only theory and speculation with biased thrown in as to who was the greatest boxer, therefore I'm done. Rocky Marciano was the worst ever. There, satisfied? I sure do hope you can now sleep well at night.
He had an insanely high ko rate, but that makes a lot of people miss the fact that he was also ahead on points for almost every fight even before getting the ko. In fact, Jersey Joe Walcott may have been the only one to have him out-pointed before Rocky reversed his fortune with that one punch in the 13th round. Charles wasn't out-pointing Marciano, but he did manage to be the only person to out-damage him until Rocky got desperate enough to keep increasing his intensity. Rocky was both a power puncher and a volume puncher, in a vastly underappreciated era of defensive wizards in the heavyweight division. His short arms made him dangerous on the inside, and he was deceptively evasive at every rage despite his aggressive style. He'd throw non-stop power shots from bell-to-bell, standing chest-to-chest with you. He'd never let you think, or even let you breathe.
@@albanyorganics3030 Yes indeed, and his back didn't even touch the ropes until the 15th round. Charles and Walcott are both two of the most underrated heavyweight fighters ever. Even more than the great Sonny Liston and Larry Holmes.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today. Sonny Liston's arms were like tree trunks, and his two 15 inch ham-handed fist were made for destruction. He was able to generate incredible bone breaking teeth shattering leverage with his 84" reach. Nobody goes toe to toe with Sonny, not even Big George. Liston would have KO'd Rocky in one round. Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today. The less said about 254 lb Humphrey Jackson the better. He only had 7 fights as a pro and had found a way to be KO'd by a guy with 1 fight. So this was little white Rocky's so called authentic Heavyweight opponent he faced? Another Typical Undercard C-Level Factually Marciano would bust a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb. It's in his biographies.
I think Marciano was a better technical boxer than people give him credit for. The way he set up the right hand that won him the heavyweight championship was a thing of beauty. He backed Jersey Joe into the ropes without even really throwing a punch, he cut off the ring giving Joe only way to get out and that was towards Rocky's best punch his right hand. Rocky throws a couple of low and slow left-hand jabs to measure and close the distance, as well as giving Joe an opening to throw a right hand of his own, but Marciano throws a short right hand before Joe can get his off. KO punch lands, the ref could've counted to 100 and Joe still would've been out. We have a new heavyweight champion of the world. They kind of show it 4:55 but it's cut down a bit.
Just keep in mind Ali lived till 2016 and there was only one boxer he said he didn't think he could beat. This makes sense as Ali was dropped three times in his career all from a left hook on the inside. Marciano was exceptionally powerful in both arms but his left hooks were brilliant and more powerful than Coopers, Frazier's and sonny Banks. Marciano also was the best conditioned heavyweight of all time, his cardio was off the charts. He also fought in 6oz horsehair and cotton and was only knocked down once in his career and got up before the count of 2, whereas Ali fought in 8oz foam meaning more padding. So Marciano would be able to take a punch in 8oz gloves with ease. Also Ken Norton beat Ali in part by neutralising Ali's jab, the moves Norton was using to do this were the same as what Marciano used to neutralise a jab.
You make valid points however you're overlooking a crucial factor. The fighters he fought weren't really heavyweights, not compared to the physical specimens that came after his era. Marciano would've been the one at a disadvantage, even Joe Frazier would've outsized him bone structure wise. He's lucky to get out when he did, Sonny Liston would've flattened him. 🥊
Also keep in mind ali was fighting his case in supreme court and needed the money offered to him to film around with Marciano. Didnt help that rocky died soon after and ali obviously wouldn't make any fans with negative comments. First quote he had on the computer fight was that the computer was made in Alabama
@@martytdd1606 mm SIZE isn t always what wins in marshal arts Joe Louis beat MAX BEAR ABE SIMON . BUDDY BEAR PRIMO CANAIRA allbig men and Joe was 200 to 205 in his prime ARCHIE MOORE BEAT NINO VALDES you can t prove it
What a great video thank you so much. It's sad that so many today don't realise just how amazing he was, 'O he was too small, o he wouldn't be a heavy weight today.' who cares. Listen to these all time greats and hear what they have to say. And as we've just seen with Fury and Usyk, Usyk isn't a big heavyweight, he was a cruiser weight and only has 23 fights to his name. And he's just beaten an all time great, a mountain of a man in Tyson Fury. Boxing is NOT about how big you are. If it is, tell that to Jack Dempsey
I just want to say that I really really enjoy and appreciate these videos of this format and would definitely welcome more videos of other fighters in the future. It’s very rewarding and beyond interesting to hear the thoughts of his peers on his character and skill set.
its a shame that rocky gets overlooked and almost never gets talked about by todays big boys (fury/joshua/usyk etc) as time goes by its more clear that he was the greatest HEAVYWEIGHT..............EVER
In 1955 a group of researchers at a military facility were asked to determine just how much marciano could ruin someone's with his fist if he really went for it.after a few tests researchers concluded that marciano's punches were comparable to "armor piercing bullets" and that the force he exerted with a single punch was roughly the same amount of force it would require to lift 1000 pounds a clear foot off ground. Meaning marciano could technically, if he really wanted to, have punched a fucking refrigerator 5 feet across the room. * According to boxing historians, one of marciano's widow-makers registered a score of "925 foot pounds". If you have no idea what the hell foot pounds are, that's the unit of measurement commomly used to measure the force behind bullets! Taking into the account the fact marciano was wearing boxing gloves when that test was conducted, it's safe to say his actual punching power sat close to a 1000 foot pounds which is comparable to the kind of power behind a 44 magnum, the gun dirty harry famously said could blow a man's head clean off. and marciano was packing this kind of power, in his arms! According to our researchers, a refrigerator weighs on average abbout 200 pounds, given that marciano's punch contained enough force to move 1000 pounds straight up, it's likely that with a good enough punch, he could lift a refrigerator clean off the ground and send it through the air. Which is awesome
Southpaw 200 lb Cruiserweight Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over Usyk 222 lbs 6'3.2" height 78.2" reach. Holyfield 218 lbs 6'2.5" height 78" reach. Michael Spinks 208 lbs 6' 2.5" height 76" reach. Ali 215 lbs 6'2.5" (passport) height 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget 185 lb 5'10" little white Rocky with his famously shortest "ever" 67" inch bantamweight T-rex alligator arm reach. Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.
His trainer summed him up entirely when he found out that Rocky had died in a place crash. He said.... if only I could have got there and began counting over him, he would have got up
He made 6 title defenses and fought lots of unknown tomato cans however he was a so powerful and had a great will and very strong the longer the fight the stronger he got is what they say .
His fights with Wolcott and Charles are evidence of his greatness. He was like a wrecking ball with arms in the ring. Heart, strength, determination, punching power and non-stop aggression from beginning to end. I don't think Ali or Tyson could have beaten him. Even Ali needed a break in the middle rounds in a long fight. If he got tired with Marciano boom boom out go the lights. I don't think Tyson would fare well with Rocky either.
Unlimited stamina, Massive punch bigger heart, every possible thing going against him and overcame it all. No i don't think he could compete with the giant modern heavyweights, but he is an all time great who would rule the cruiserweight division. Do NOT let the casuals ans haters tell u he was a simple brawler with no defense. U dont go 49-0 with poor defense that just doesn't happen. Was he unorthodox? Yes was he much more subtle? Yes but he absolutely was a boxer
The most hated and underrated heavyweight ever. People say he's too small but forget that david tua , joe frazier and mike tyson were all under 6 feet and were still one of the best heavyweights. He probably would have even bulked for today's standards amd imo could have easily reached around 220 lbs. Marciano may not have that much muscle mass and lifting strength but he for sure has the most impact strength in boxing history after deontay wilder. He has the most stamina , most durability , the greatest granite chin , the most endurance and the heart of a lion. Truly the true and ultimate GOAT 🐐 👊 🥊 could have literally beaten every heavyweight in history even after starting boxing at 23 or 25
I dont see how a cruiserweight who's best scalps are older men and older lightheavweights, who retired before he reached their age, is the most hated when italian americans still call him the greatest in 2024
@@devilface97 he defeated everyone who was put in front of him He could've literally destroyed everyone in boxing history cause of his unmatched physical attributes amd abilities.
I've heard a lot of opposition about him fighting wore out nobody's,even people saying he cowardly avoided a fight with sonny liston, then the boxing commission should made it happen ,Rocky was hard punching tough Italian, and a fine disciplined champion ,
Floyd was a gentleman and a talented heavyweight. But Rocky would have destroyed Patterson. Cus kept Floyd away from Rocky and the belt, soon as Rocky retired Floyd moved up. Cus even admitted this and so did Floyd.
Oh yeah he has whole essays lmao, dont understand people like that. And its always the same phrases too. “Little marciano, overrated, old joe louis… “ he even enjoys using out of context quotes too, makes it seem like he’s smart or something. Reality is, he’s absolutely miserable. Edit: Yep he’s here, Stout Krout & David Frost. He’s using the same profile pictures as other commenters to blend in.
Very soon I’ll be uploading a documentary on one of history’s most overlooked and underrated heavyweight champions, stay tuned!
Like ray mercer , ron Lyle and probably deontay wilder too ( kids nowadays hate him too much )
Please GOD say Larry Holmes! That man was as terrific as they come!
Floyd patterson yesss
You already made a video about him before time for some new boxer how about Floyd mayweather and how unstoppable he was
Can we get one about Hagler please?
Hearing these guys talk to and about each other in those days... With respect and admiration. Conducting themselves with poise and dignity. Seeing Walcott and Marciano talk to each other like that... It really stands in a stark contrast to a lot of the dumb shit we see in the modern era.
social media makes everyone feel important
According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City
Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.”
Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!”
Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!"
Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow!
Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up I asked Sonny what happened and he said 'I hit you"
Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams."
"When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender
The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man.
Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow. Why? Simply the history of kids working on the farm. However the story would seem to accentuate the point of how strong Liston was. He grew up with a father that eventually disappeared and a mother who was on and off drugs. He use to hang out in abandoned houses and hide from other people. By the time he was twelve he had been arrested for street robberies and burglary around Brooklyn. He was rescued out of a orphanage/ boys home for juvenile offenders by Cus D’Amato not because he was a shining knight but he could make money off his athletic talent.
Liston was a different breed; what a specimen.
"Of all the men I fought in boxing, Sonny Liston was the scariest." -- Muhammad Ali
"He's the meanest fighter that ever lived. No one's more intimidating. Not even myself." -- Mike Tyson
"Liston compares favorably with any of the heavyweights of the past. Any of them. When somebody asks me, How does Liston compare with Joe Louis?' I have to stop and think. So you know how good a fighter Liston is." -- Cus D'Amato
"Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." -- George Foreman
"Possibly the greatest left jab in the history of the heavyweight division. That left jab could go through brick walls." -- Bert Sugar
"I boxed heavyweights for four years till I realized Sonny Liston wasn't my cup of tea. When I saw him come on the scene, I said I'm going to get back down where I belong." -- Willie Pastrano
"When you got hit by Sonny Liston's jab, it felt like you were getting hit with a telephone pole." -- Ray Schoeninger
"Nobody hit those bags like Sonny. He tore bags up. He could turn that hook, put everything behind it. Turn and snap. Bam! Why, he could knock you across the room with a jab. I saw him knock guys out with a straight jab. Bam! In the ring, Sonny was a killing machine." -- Johnny Tacco
"Liston could scowl as hard as any man in or out of the ring. And, of course, he invented the big stare." -- Joe Louis
"When Sonny gave you the evil eye - I don't care who you were - you shrunk to two feet tall. And one thing more; he could fight like hell. They forget it now, but when Liston was champ, some people thought he was the greatest heavyweight of all time." -- Harold Conrad
"Liston was the biggest puncher I ever fought." -- Chuck Wepner
"If you got hit with the right hand, you wouldn't get up." -- Floyd Patterson
Liston was the most powerful intimidating Heavyweight ever. He never gets enough credit bcz of the two Ali fights which were dubious to say the least. Ali was seen as the bright new future and Sonny was forced to step aside, then found dead in really suspicious circumstances when he might "talk" about the deceit. His life story is better than any fiction novel, he deserves more respect than he gets. Before the first Clay fight Joe Louis told Sonny that he was going to bet on him. *"Joe, save your money,"* Sonny said... (Sonny obviously knew what was gonna happen) (It's in Liston's biography).
From the book 'The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights' -- "'During the first Liston-Ali fight at the Convention Hall in Miami Beach on February 25, 1964, Sonny had a bad left shoulder. He had gone to see Joe Louis' doctor who treated him for bursitis, but there wasn't enough time for the treatment to work. Sonny was around 45 years old at the time which was a well kept secret. His oldest sister wrote he was born 1919 a year after the Great War. He asked the Florida Boxing Commission for a postponement of the fight. He was turned down and fought the six rounds with the damaged left shoulder, which he completely tore up during the fight."'
"'In the second fight at St. Dominic’s Hall in Lewiston, Maine, on May 25, 1965 a really bizarre situation developed. According to Gallender, Malcolm X's people had a hit out on Ali (Ali sided with the rival Elijah Muhammad). Elijah's Black Muslims kidnapped Liston's wife and son. Sonny was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again! The fight lasted one round with Liston going down from the famous 'Phantom Punch'."'
Argh. This incompetent SOB of a referee. *Ali never went to a neutral corner, only then can the count begin.* Worst decision of all time. Obviously Liston's age (20yrs older than Ali) wasn't enough to secure Ali a win. Liston's kids had to be kidnapped by Ali's friends (Nation of Islam).
( Ali undoubtedly won both fights. *It's just nice to understand why and how they were predetermined illegitimate wins* )
From the book 'The Real Story Behind the Ali-Liston Fights' -- "'During the first Liston-Ali fight at the Convention Hall in Miami Beach on February 25, 1964, Sonny had a bad left shoulder. He had gone to see Joe Louis' doctor who treated him for bursitis, but there wasn't enough time for the treatment to work. Sonny was around 45 years old at the time which was a well kept secret. His oldest sister wrote he was born 1919 a year after the Great War. He asked the Florida Boxing Commission for a postponement of the fight. He was turned down and fought the six rounds with the damaged left shoulder, which he completely tore up during the fight."'
"'In the second fight at St. Dominic’s Hall in Lewiston, Maine, on May 25, 1965 a really bizarre situation developed. According to Gallender, Elijah Muhammad's Black Muslims kidnapped Liston's wife and son. Sonny was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again! The fight lasted one round with Liston going down from the famous 'Phantom Punch'."'
He truly was one of the most determined and disciplined champions of all time. Never had the greatest genetics, but the greatest will.
He surely was the most hard working boxer ever with ali , tyson and holyfield and his hardwork even made his physical attributes shine more but I still won't say he wasn't genetically gifted. He's the hardest hitting heavyweight ever after probably the bronze bomber 💣
@@krrishsharma7859Not the second hardest Hitter.Louis,Liston,Foreman,Lyle,Williams,Shavers are all harder.
@@PowerBattles no they don't
Bigger in size doesn't mean hitting harder
Do you even know what sir henry cooper said about him lol 😂 ????
@@krrishsharma7859 I didn’t say Tyson Fury.All of them hit harder.He knocked out 40 Year old light heavyweights.
@@PowerBattles joe louis himself said that he hits the hardest
Rocky broke ali in a sparring
Not tyson fury but deontay wilder hits Harder for sure but that's it. No one else than him.
Marciano was a class act and a great example to anyone who wants to better themselves.
What a shame he was dishonorably discharged for felony assault and robbery. He served his country doing 2 years in prison.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton, at least he served when self-aggrandizing mutts like John Wayne and Roy Rogers dodged the draft during WWII.
@@Sara_Sky_Suttonlet's hear about Sonny liston you racist troll?
Rocky didn't like gay people so what that's his problem and he also served by boxing in the Army
Y'all white Marciano lovers fail to ever mention Marciano's Forced retirement. Why? Because Marciano couldn't take the pain anymore from two confirmed nose surgeries, hand surgery, hundreds of stitches, chronic back pain and constant migraines cause his head was used as a Pinata constantly gettin smacked around,, here,, you hit me five times,, and I'll hit you back one time,, Duh. And all that talk about retiring for his family nonsense was simply a bull•••• publicity stunt because he immediately abandoned his family and left them penniless when he perished.
You white people should know the truth about Rocky, he was homosexual. Sorry if that hurts, but it shouldn't. He had to stay in the closet, it was just the way of the times. Today people like Rocky and me don't have to be embarrassed or feel ashamed. When I came out it was like taking a huge weight off of my shoulders. But don't wait like I did, I have a wife and kid that I would never had if I had not succumbed to the pressure of trying to act normal. I love Margot, but I'm not in love with her, and she understands, we stay together for our daughter. All three of us share the much of the same clothes, make-up, and interests. We're a pretty happy family.
he is the odd case of being the favorite yet underdog at the same time.
Never lost yet statistically so disadvantaged: short reach, short height, small fists, clumsy footwork. Just pure heart and willpower.
The fact that he was so sickly as an infant that the doctor said it was up to his fighting spirit if he is gonna survive. Man was born to defy the odds.
but the lousiest fighter i ever seen.apart from chin, he got nothing going for him and dont get me started on the bums he fought
@@wambokodavid7109 How about I get you going on the ATG Boxing Hall of Famers that Marciano fought?
@@wambokodavid7109oh give me a fcking break!!!! that's just racist freaking stupidity!!!
Rocky was doing shit inside there you can't understand!!!
His style absolutely smothered his opponents reach and jab making them obsolete and taking away most of his opponents main weapons.
His style absolutely maximized his advantages and and made him hard to hit!!!
He controlled the ring and head movement.
Francis didn't land 6 punches the last two rounds while rocky landed more than 80 POWER SHOTS PER ROUND AND usually over 100!
He destroyed 4 all time greats!
He destroyed everyone in his division who had claim to the title including the British champion who had beaten two former American champions.
Ezzard Charles was the holyfield of his day and while rocky walked around at 200 lbs he learned from ezzard Charles to chew his food and spit it out because those guys already hit hard and needed stamina and endurance to fight like that!
This is the generation that Crossed over with Ali and trained Ali and Foreman but you freaking think you're better or got something to say? Just STFU.
@@Gigantore-u4z mention them...and not washed out joe louis
@@wambokodavid7109 Walcott, Charles and Moore. 3 ATG Boxing Hall of Famers.
Power, perseverance and stamina. Rocky will always be in the conversation for the all time greats.
@@LaRusso No disrespect but he's not in my top 30. Too small.
little white Marciano could train 1000 years but prime Ali would still crush him. Since Marciano struggled with light heavyweight Charles who was a good boxer, but was smaller weaker and slower than Ali, what makes you think he'd do better against Ali?
Could you imagine 41 year old light heavyweight Archie Moore busting up King Fury and Big George Foreman or any of the great Super Heavyweights? Yet little white Marciano had all he could handle and was floored with one glancing shot from the light heavyweight grandfather.
236 lb Ike Ibeabuchi holds the Heavyweight record for most punches ever thrown against David Tua. Super Heavyweight Ibeabuchi outworked and showed more heart than little Rocky was ever capable of. No Super Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, he believed that nobody could beat him. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them, and had a ridiculous workrate. It's laughable to even to even think about little 188 lb Marciano vs. 245 lb Ibeabuchi. Ike woulda walked through little Rocky like a hot spoon going through butter.
Marciano has the best legacy of any fighter, polite, soft spoken and respectful out of the ring and an unbeatable gladiator inside of the ring.
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today.
Sonny Liston's arms were like tree trunks, and his two 15 inch ham-handed fist were made for destruction. He was able to generate incredible bone breaking teeth shattering leverage with his 84" reach. Nobody goes toe to toe with Sonny, not even Big George. Liston would have KO'd Rocky in one round.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today.
The less said about 254 lb Humphrey Jackson the better. He only had 7 fights as a pro and had found a way to be KO'd by a guy with 1 fight. So this was little white Rocky's so called authentic Heavyweight opponent he faced? Another Typical Undercard C-Level
Factually Marciano would bust a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb. It's in his biographies.
My nephew Billy has explained how good you are and why. Apparently there's a guy by the name of Gregory Rochette that has been harassing people for 10 years. Billy said, "you contain him and put him in his place." I wish you good health and happiness. Carry on.
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Joe Louis says it all at the end of the video. From one great champion to another
my two favorites
I think if Joe Luis says he's the best that's probably the closest thing to conclusive we'll get.
@@hosvet_animation If you say so then you don't actually believe it but you believe it's Joe Louis instead
Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny Liston fought from, he was the best I ever saw.”
@@Robert_Isaac_Cunningham What's Gods of War
The humility of all these legends back in the day, the mutual respect for each other is incredible. I wonder if we’ll ever see that again.
Of course. We see it today. Big Bang Zhang has humility and mutual respect. Parker does as well. Manny Pacquiao and Sugar Ray Leonard had mutual respect. Hey it was Rocky that served 2 years in military prison for felony assault and robbery.
Take note that Joe Louis, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore NEVER said they could have taken Rocky out IF they had fought Rocky earlier in their careers when they were younger!! Respect.
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
236 lb Ike Ibeabuchi holds the Heavyweight record for most punches ever thrown against David Tua. Super Heavyweight Ibeabuchi outworked and showed more heart than little Rocky was ever capable of. No Super Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power. He had fierce determination and he had no fear of anybody, he believed that nobody could beat him. Ike was a Super Heavyweight with serious power, great speed, chin of iron, a boxer and a brawler, freakish stamina, threw punches in bunches with KO written all over them, and had a ridiculous workrate. It's laughable to even to even think about little 188 lb Marciano vs. 245 lb Ibeabuchi. Ike woulda walked through little Rocky like a hot spoon going through butter.
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People describes little white Marciano as being so ferocious that he basically killed all 49 of his opponents in the ring. Marciano vids are filled with fan boys exaggerated-hyperbole-comments about Rocky's power. But what people fails to tell everyone is that LaStarza (with all his "Broken Bones" and "Ruptured Blood Vessels") simply had minor surgery and was fightin exactly 6 months later. Layne only had 4 broken teeth and was fightin exactly 3 months later - Wiki. These are all normal boxing injuries. Notice how these Marciano lovers never wanna discuss his injuries? Like 2 confirmed nose surgeries, hundreds of stitches, chronic back pain and constant migraines cause his head was used like a Pinata constantly gettin smacked around, here, you hit me 5 times and I'll hit you back one time, Duh.
*Ike Ibeabuchi vs. David Tua threw 91 punches in round one according to CompuBox, 91 again in round two, and 95 in round three, obscene numbers for a Super Heavyweight. By the final bell, Ibeabuchi and Tua had combined to throw 1,730 punches, breaking the Heavyweight record set by Ali vs. Frazier III, when they combined for 1,591 punches - in 14 rounds, two rounds more than Ibeabuchi and Tua had to work with. Ike threw 975 punches, the most ever by a single Heavyweight. Both fighters had a brawling fight style, they were both 24 years old at the time of this epic battle and they were both undefeated going in to this fight. 226 lb Tua's record stood at 27-0 23 KO's while 236 lb Ibeabuchi's record stood at 16-0 12 KO's. This fight is the stuff that dreams were made of. Two Super Heavyweight warriors stood toe to toe exhibiting exceptional heart and endurance. Both boxers threw bombs and neither took a backward step.*
*21 months later, 245 lb Ibeabuchi confirmed that he was indeed the best up and coming Super Heavyweight on the planet by knocking out undefeated 26-0 quick and slick southpaw Chris Byrd. Ibeabuchi was now 20-0 with 15 KO's and only 26 years old.* (Byrd would later become two-time Heavyweight champion).
*No Heavyweight of his generation possessed more ability. He was a prodigy. He had amazing power, fierce determination and no fear of anybody. He believed that he was the King, that nobody could beat him. He’d walk into the ring and you would almost have this vision of a bull coming at a matador with the steam coming out of the nostrils.*
*((To claim little Marciano's endurance was better than everyone else's endurance is not only laughable but absurd and Super Heavyweights Ibeabuchi/Tua just proved it when they threw a record breaking 1,730 haymakers! The way Rocky fans go on and on about how he's the best conditioned fighter that ever lived is absolute nonsense. So Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Marvin Hagler, Manny Pacquiao, David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi never trained? What a Joke. Little 184 lb Marciano gets flattened by the 245 lb prodigy Ibeabuchi 10 out of 10 times and that's not debatable!!!))*
My word what a tough guy ROCKY was just watched some old videos got to be one of the greatest
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
The caliber of the people talking so highly of Marciano proves he may have been the greatest. For Ali to say it shows how great both were.
He WAS and always will be the greatest of all time !
@MrCarpen7er He was a great fighter but he was not the greatest of all time simply because he fought guys who were older and past their time, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, would have definitely stopped Rocky...Facts
The conversation with Walcott was gold.
Pure class from Jersey Joe don't really see that from fighters today especially when they lose
Walcott only lost to Marciano the first time because he got stupid. He played it smarter the second time by throwing the fight.
@@Section5_CdnIntelServiceI don't think so, Walcott probably gassed out on 12,letting Rocky take a small momentum,and on round 13 a boom.
@@akashnadar1449 My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
The Brockton Blockbuster, Great Video Rainy
Like Cus D'Amato said, he was a very smart fighter. He used his natural "clumsy" style to make himself harder to hit, to allow himself to get close enough to pound away. You can see ring intelligence by noticing who adapts best throughout the fight. Who is able to take what the other guy is doing and get their own shots in while nullifying their opponent. It wasn't just pure determination, but maybe 70% attitude and 30% style, something like that.
Angelo Dundee alsol said that marciano was far more intelligent in the ring that people realized. he was not always this I hit you you hit me fighter. He knew how to absorb the blows that were thrown, he had defensive skills. My only wondering about Marciano was how would he have fought against really bigger men. The only great boxer he fought was was way heavier than him was Joe Louis, and a past his prmie Louis, but he still did very well if you consdier that Louis was a favorite going into the fight. I cnanot thaink of that Cuban boxers name right now, though last name Valdez. that boxter would have had a 20 pound weight advantage, and might have been tgougher that Lastarza, and most certainly Cockell, who Valdez knocked out. Sonty Liston though would have proablably stopped him.
@@elnick1000Archie Moore had just beaten nino Valdez and he had many losses.
Rocky had big opponents but hims , walcott ezzard Charles and Moore basically cleaned them all out.
Rockys biggest opponent was 6' 5 259 lbs. Rockys brothers said the bigger ones were easier for him.
He picked them apart but had more trouble with faster good fighter alike ezzard Charles and walcott.
Rocky was low to the ground and his style absolutely smothered his opponents reach and jab making them obsolete on the inside.
Bert Suger said he watched Rocky getting hit ringside against such a big Heavyweight it was lifting both of Rockys feet off the canvas but wasn't fazing him.
He also said Rockys right hand punch was the most deadly weapon ever brought into the square circle.
@@elnick1000 It would have gone one of two ways. If we bring a prime Rocky to 2024 with his 1952 body size, he would not be a heavyweight. He would fight one weight below HW. OR, by bringing him to 2024 and giving him a lifetime of the best training, the best nutrition, the best medical technology, the best equipment (ie, shoes), etc., he very well may have been a couple inches taller and 20 lb heavier, which would make him a small heavyweight in this generation. We'll never really know. As it has been said, he could only fight the men they put in front of him, and he did do that. He never ducked any fighter. He had no fear in the ring.
@@ScottHendrix-yz3du Regarding Valdez, he had won a split decision over Charles, but Charles go the title fight. Valdez had been number one contender by Ring Magzine for two years. Also, sad no footagle of the fight availalbe, when he lost the second time to Moore, Valdez had felt he was robbed. I think Marciano would have beaten Valdez, but it would have been tough, and not as easy as when he beat Cockell, who Valdez would defeat by KO in Britain.
@@James_T_Finnegan ANd by the way, Bennie Freynolds got beat up by Robert Mitchum apparently. Also felt that Marciano should have fought Nino Valdez. He was number one contender for nearly two yrs by Ring Magazine, asnd would have outweighted Rock by 20 pounds. That would have been good on his resume. HIs win over Louis though can not really be discounted. While certainly not the boxer of 10 years previously, he was still formidable, and was actaully a favorite going into the fight.
I love these old champions. They have great respect for each other.
Archie Moore had once said, "fighting Rocky Marciano was like fighting an airplane propeller".
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton yet Usyk is the smallest of them all, and he reigns supreme
@@liebebile6515 Is Usyk 5' 9 184bs with tiny 67" flyweight reach? Nope. He's 6' 3" 223 lb Super Heavyweight with 78" reach. Besides, low-power Usyk will be finished after his next fight. Usyk won't even come close to cleaning out the Heavyweight division.
@@liebebile6515 Usyk will never ever fight 305 lb Miller or 285 lb Bakole or 285 lb Zhang. Usyk is finished.
No boxer in the history ever had anywhere as much stamina as Rocky, who always threw power punches with full force until the last round, and never let his opponents breathe!
Rocky was so terrifyingly tough, he immediately got up after taking a perfectly timed punch from the legendary Archie Moore who said himself it was as hard as he ever hit anyone in his career and looked like nothing happened to him at all.
Marciano hit so hard, that when researchers from the millitary tested his explosive energy, they discovered that it was comparable to a piercing bullet.
Rocky's spectactular trainer Charley Goldman developed his brilliant style in which he always stayed very low and hard to hit well if at all.
THIS is how unstoppable Rocky Marciano was
This came from Rocky’s determination in his heart, his cardio was so good because he endured grueling long runs and training sessions, he was determined to live a consistent life of dedication to the sport of boxing for his entire career, no booze, no women, no parties, just pure hard work every day of the year.
@@jamesbaka1206 Nobody trained as hard as he did
still took him 9 rounds to ok don cockell. Who was knocked out by jimmy slade. Randy Turpin nino valdez
@@user-nd9ls1xn5f What is that embarassing answer? 😂
Boxing is not about knocking out as fast as you can
@@user-nd9ls1xn5fso what, all those guys were beaten by guys rocky beat!!!
Joe Louis had once said, "just bumping into Rocky Marciano hurts".
Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny Liston fought from, he was the best I ever saw.”
@@Robert_Isaac_Cunningham Liston should be ranked very high among heavyweight champions as one of the greatest. I feel I always honor him by my jumping rope to the James Brown song "Night Train".
@@Robert_Isaac_Cunningham Liston in his 20's and early 30's was a BEAST!!! That man was the strongest puncher until George Foreman showed up.
According to Marciano himself, Muhammad Ali would have won. Rocky said three boxers in his lifetime were a bridge too far for him, a young Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, and Ali. Louis for hand speed and power, Ali for pure speed, and Liston for technical excellence and pure brute strength. --by Mike Stanton and Fight City
Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.”
Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!”
Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!"
Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow!
Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up I asked Sonny what happened and he said 'I hit you"
Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams."
"When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender
The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man.
Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow. Why? Simply the history of kids working on the farm. However the story would seem to accentuate the point of how strong Liston was. He grew up with a father that eventually disappeared and a mother who was on and off drugs. He use to hang out in abandoned houses and hide from other people. By the time he was twelve he had been arrested for street robberies and burglary around Brooklyn. He was rescued out of a orphanage/ boys home for juvenile offenders by Cus D’Amato not because he was a shining knight but he could make money off his athletic talent.
Liston was a different breed; what a specimen.
"Of all the men I fought in boxing, Sonny Liston was the scariest." -- Muhammad Ali
"He's the meanest fighter that ever lived. No one's more intimidating. Not even myself." -- Mike Tyson
"Liston compares favorably with any of the heavyweights of the past. Any of them. When somebody asks me, How does Liston compare with Joe Louis?' I have to stop and think. So you know how good a fighter Liston is." -- Cus D'Amato
"Sonny Liston stood up to me and actually made me give ground. No one has ever done that to me before or since." -- George Foreman
"Possibly the greatest left jab in the history of the heavyweight division. That left jab could go through brick walls." -- Bert Sugar
"I boxed heavyweights for four years till I realized Sonny Liston wasn't my cup of tea. When I saw him come on the scene, I said I'm going to get back down where I belong." -- Willie Pastrano
"When you got hit by Sonny Liston's jab, it felt like you were getting hit with a telephone pole." -- Ray Schoeninger
"Nobody hit those bags like Sonny. He tore bags up. He could turn that hook, put everything behind it. Turn and snap. Bam! Why, he could knock you across the room with a jab. I saw him knock guys out with a straight jab. Bam! In the ring, Sonny was a killing machine." -- Johnny Tacco
"Liston could scowl as hard as any man in or out of the ring. And, of course, he invented the big stare." -- Joe Louis
"When Sonny gave you the evil eye - I don't care who you were - you shrunk to two feet tall. And one thing more; he could fight like hell. They forget it now, but when Liston was champ, some people thought he was the greatest heavyweight of all time." -- Harold Conrad
"Liston was the biggest puncher I ever fought." -- Chuck Wepner
"If you got hit with the right hand, you wouldn't get up." -- Floyd Patterson
Liston was the most powerful intimidating Heavyweight ever. He never gets enough credit bcz of the two Ali fights which were dubious to say the least. Ali was seen as the bright new future and Sonny was forced to step aside, then found dead in really suspicious circumstances when he might "talk" about the deceit. His life story is better than any fiction novel, he deserves more respect than he gets. Before the first Clay fight Joe Louis told Sonny that he was going to bet on him. *"Joe, save your money,"* Sonny said... (Sonny obviously knew what was gonna happen) (It's in Liston's biography).
The one and only, the great Rocky Marciano one of the most invincible warrior's who ever grace the ring.
Hahaaaaa😂😂😂!!!
Facts
DUCK
People say he was a protected fighter but he fought an 8 - 0 in his 3rd fight and a 14 - 0 in his 4th and that was 1 month into his boxing career
What were their weights?
@@devilface97 probably no lighter than him. Even back then he wasn’t a big heavyweight
Marciano's 3rd fight against 175 lb Eddie Ross's career 19 wins 5 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 10 debuting amateurs and 7 other opponents with 10 fights or less.*
Marciano's 4th fight against 183 lb Bob Quinn's career 20 wins 4 losses looks okay until you see *he fought 13 opponents with 10 fights or less.*
See, there's a reason he fought those undefeated nobody tomato cans.
Anyone who says he didn't have technique look at his knock out of Jesery Joe Wallcott and that was in the 13th round as well and he times that punch perfectly one of the best knockouts in world history
Great point
My Favorite boxer of all time.
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
YOU NEVER SEEN HIM FIGHT
Best conditioned Heavyweight boxer of all time he would work up to running 15 miles so over a half marathon every single day in training. Modern heavyweights run 3 to 6 miles 3/4 times a week! People call him small I'm suprised he weighed so much with that cardio
This has to really be the most pathetic comment I have ever seen lol go back a fall asleep on your nans armchair whilst eating nachos
Just a simple and honest question. How the hell do you know Modern Heavyweights only run 3 to 6 miles only 3 or 4 times per week? U don't!!! U don't have a clue who runs what and when!!!
Also Heavyweight was only 175 lbs back then so Rocky definitely does not represent all Heavyweight categories and Super Heavyweight categories. The average Heavyweight today weighs 250 similar to Joshua and Parker. Zhang weighs 285,, Rocky 184.
Hands down the greatest cardio of any human being to ever put on boxing gloves!! AND of any boxer prior to gloves as well! Sonny Liston is so lucky that he wasn’t ranked high enough until Rock was retired for a few years!
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton and Rocky knocked out a 253lb opponent in round 1.
You heard it here from some of the greatest boxers. Rocky is one of the greatest, if not the greatest
@Stout_Krout_HinesburgVT6337 because they are facts.
@@James_T_Finnegan you sound jealous of Rockys 49-0 record 😆
A legend no doubt but miles from the greatest. Would’ve lost crazy lopsided decisions to the likes of Ali and Homes. A prime Louis would’ve walked through him too.
@TC8787-yq7og Ali, in an interview with Howerd Cosel, said Rocky would have beaten him.
@@TC8787-yq7og Rock knocks them all out.
Marciano,a legend's legend.
Freak of nature as the wolverine.
doesn't have to be big to wreak chaos 😊🥊
It was in the 1970s, I walked into an Irish bar in NYC. It had old and current black and white photos of boxing greats (when bars had boxing photos hung along the walls). One photo caught my eye and I couldn't stop staring at it. It was a photo I never saw before or afterwards and I can never find on the internet, so it must've been from a private collection. It was a photo of Rocky Marciano punching a heavy bag. What impressed me the most was that he looked like he was carved out of granite. I can still remember that photo to this day. It was awesome!!!
Loved watching and listening to each fighter speak highly of Rocky, especially the interview with Joe and Rocky, class.
49 wins, 43 knockouts, 0 defeats. Rocky Marciano, a hero to all those who are told they can't.
if Ali fought the same opponents that Marciano fought, he would have been 49-0 as well. So would a lot of other fighters.
@@kartzstormstool861stop downplaying a man’s achievements, clown shit fr
@@James_T_Finnegan huge difference in the level of competition between the 2, Marciano never fought a fighter as good as Norton or Frazier.
Smells like organized crime if you ask me. But there's no doubting his performing abilities
@@kartzstormstool861You a clown. Ali himself respected Marciano and stated multiple times he would have been his toughest opponent if they fought, saying it could go either way.
Who are you to casually dismiss his abilities and assessment ? No one. Sit back down on that couch.
Keep in mind when he won the boxing world title he had only put on gloves 6 years prior. It would be the equalivant of Jake Paul right now fighting Usyk or Fury and knocking them out cold with one of the best punches ever thrown in boxing history
@@Alex-cw3rz Rocky had an extensive amateur career
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton extensive? It was less than a year.
I totally disagree with people who say that Rocky did not have good foot work and skills. That’s the legend, but it doesn’t really make any sense. Think about the fact that this guy had extremely short arms, and yet somehow always managed to get inside, even with elusive fighters. That takes extremely, adept foot work and movement. Also, the way that he used space and cut off the ring in order to create the opportunity for his gazelle punches, you can see that he was not the knuckle dragging lummox that he’s made out to be. He moved extremely well and with great efficiency of energy. He was also an incredibly accurate puncher who had a gift for how to use leverage from every imaginable angle. Very few fighters could be as powerful from so many angular positions and this made him dangerous from every imaginable posture. Most fighters can only throw their really hard stuff from two or three different positions, but Rocky had murderous power from almost any posture.
Determination. It's not what makes a strong fighter, or man, or woman, but a strong person. Being able to see yourself candidly and surpass the limits that you're told you have. Do your best, for you, and you'll surprise even yourself.
Mike Tyson always respectful of past greats interesting what JOE LOUIS said all greats on this video
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton Foreman was 225 in his prime
@@sorshiaemms5959 Foreman won his Heavyweight Championship of the World belt weighing exactly 250 lbs! Correct? Don't matter anyhow cuz Foreman beats 5' 9" 184 lb Rocky at any weight!
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton not in his prime he was 225 and he did lose to little Hollyfield
@@sorshiaemms5959 At least Foreman didn't fight a bunch of tiny middleweights like little Rocky did.
Thanks for fresh content. I love your vids.
He appeared at the right time & right place!
Such an underrated youtube channel, best boxing video breakdowns i've seen, hearing mike tyson breakdown fights is sick
Rocky Marciano was in the "holy trinity" of the the greatest boxers of all time with Carlos Monzon and Sugar Ray Robinson. He was also IMO! The greatest conditioned athlete of any athlete in any sport in history if you know how he trained. It was INSANE.
The film with Dundee was shortly after the news broke that Marciano was killed in a plane crash, hench the bit of tears in his eyes.
What a guy !
the man fought for selfless reasons and it made him a man of steel.
"The man fought for selfless reasons"? Rocky fought for the money, and no other reason.
His stamina was S tier
Heart-warming to see the respect of these boxers for each other. Respect.
I wish Rocky had lived a long life. He worked so hard, brought his family and parents out of financial difficulties and was a true champion in the ring and outside of the ring. Live eternally in peace with Christ and the angels dear champion.
I think because Rocky Marciano's style was so unorthodox that many people saw and still see him as an awkward fighter with powerful punches. When in reality he was a smart fighter who made a style that worked best for him.
In the last round of the archie moore fight before Marciano knocked him out he threw 97 punches and landed 67%! His accuracy was amazing modern heavyweights punch stats don't come close.
Archie Moore had said that "fighting Marciano was like fighting an airplane propeller".
The Rock threw 100 punches a round in 5 of 8 rounds against Moore and was well on his way to a 6th when the KO came.
@@albanyorganics3030 That's awesome! Incedible stamina and raw brutal power! He'd make today's heavyweights cry for their moms.
@@James_T_Finnegan I don't know, ask Archie. He's the one that said it.
@@James_T_Finnegan why are you so butt hurt about Marciano. We've had our discussion on the subject a week ago. The argument can go on and on without a conclusive answer but only theory and speculation with biased thrown in as to who was the greatest boxer, therefore I'm done. Rocky Marciano was the worst ever. There, satisfied? I sure do hope you can now sleep well at night.
One of the bests!
He had an insanely high ko rate, but that makes a lot of people miss the fact that he was also ahead on points for almost every fight even before getting the ko. In fact, Jersey Joe Walcott may have been the only one to have him out-pointed before Rocky reversed his fortune with that one punch in the 13th round.
Charles wasn't out-pointing Marciano, but he did manage to be the only person to out-damage him until Rocky got desperate enough to keep increasing his intensity.
Rocky was both a power puncher and a volume puncher, in a vastly underappreciated era of defensive wizards in the heavyweight division. His short arms made him dangerous on the inside, and he was deceptively evasive at every rage despite his aggressive style. He'd throw non-stop power shots from bell-to-bell, standing chest-to-chest with you. He'd never let you think, or even let you breathe.
Ezzard Charles the only fighter to go the distance with Marciano.
@@albanyorganics3030 Yes indeed, and his back didn't even touch the ropes until the 15th round. Charles and Walcott are both two of the most underrated heavyweight fighters ever. Even more than the great Sonny Liston and Larry Holmes.
@@albanyorganics3030not true. A light heavyweight who was not closer to 40 than 30 went the distance with rocky more than once
@black David Frost You sir, are a liar. You've never read a credible article that says either LaStarza nor Lowery were ahead.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today.
Sonny Liston's arms were like tree trunks, and his two 15 inch ham-handed fist were made for destruction. He was able to generate incredible bone breaking teeth shattering leverage with his 84" reach. Nobody goes toe to toe with Sonny, not even Big George. Liston would have KO'd Rocky in one round.
Little white 184 lb Marciano had a featherweight arm reach of 67" inches. Imagine penguin🐧arms Rocky trying to fight authentic Super Heavyweights with 50 to 80+ pound weight advantages and 80" to 85" arm reaches? What an embarrassment Rocky would have been today.
The less said about 254 lb Humphrey Jackson the better. He only had 7 fights as a pro and had found a way to be KO'd by a guy with 1 fight. So this was little white Rocky's so called authentic Heavyweight opponent he faced? Another Typical Undercard C-Level
Factually Marciano would bust a payphone clean off the wall just to retrieve his 10 cents even though he had 30K in his pocket. He was half a bubble off plumb. It's in his biographies.
well...nobody stopped him !
Punching the crap out of the heavy bag really paid off for rocky
Love your vids. Much respect to one of the greatest
I think Marciano was a better technical boxer than people give him credit for. The way he set up the right hand that won him the heavyweight championship was a thing of beauty. He backed Jersey Joe into the ropes without even really throwing a punch, he cut off the ring giving Joe only way to get out and that was towards Rocky's best punch his right hand. Rocky throws a couple of low and slow left-hand jabs to measure and close the distance, as well as giving Joe an opening to throw a right hand of his own, but Marciano throws a short right hand before Joe can get his off. KO punch lands, the ref could've counted to 100 and Joe still would've been out. We have a new heavyweight champion of the world.
They kind of show it 4:55 but it's cut down a bit.
His main asset is he refused to be beaten!
quite simply the brockton blockbuster didnt know how to loose he believed in himself utterly
I believe Joe Louis and Jersey Joe would be very close if they were younger in their bouts but definitely he was one of a kind
Just keep in mind Ali lived till 2016 and there was only one boxer he said he didn't think he could beat. This makes sense as Ali was dropped three times in his career all from a left hook on the inside. Marciano was exceptionally powerful in both arms but his left hooks were brilliant and more powerful than Coopers, Frazier's and sonny Banks. Marciano also was the best conditioned heavyweight of all time, his cardio was off the charts. He also fought in 6oz horsehair and cotton and was only knocked down once in his career and got up before the count of 2, whereas Ali fought in 8oz foam meaning more padding. So Marciano would be able to take a punch in 8oz gloves with ease. Also Ken Norton beat Ali in part by neutralising Ali's jab, the moves Norton was using to do this were the same as what Marciano used to neutralise a jab.
thats how the computer fight goes
You make valid points however you're overlooking a crucial factor. The fighters he fought weren't really heavyweights, not compared to the physical specimens that came after his era. Marciano would've been the one at a disadvantage, even Joe Frazier would've outsized him bone structure wise. He's lucky to get out when he did, Sonny Liston would've flattened him. 🥊
Also keep in mind ali was fighting his case in supreme court and needed the money offered to him to film around with Marciano. Didnt help that rocky died soon after and ali obviously wouldn't make any fans with negative comments. First quote he had on the computer fight was that the computer was made in Alabama
@@martytdd1606 mm SIZE isn t always what wins in marshal arts Joe Louis beat MAX BEAR ABE SIMON . BUDDY BEAR PRIMO CANAIRA allbig men and Joe was 200 to 205 in his prime ARCHIE MOORE BEAT NINO VALDES you can t prove it
Ali would have stopped him on cuts with left jabs
A great champion
What a great video thank you so much. It's sad that so many today don't realise just how amazing he was, 'O he was too small, o he wouldn't be a heavy weight today.' who cares. Listen to these all time greats and hear what they have to say.
And as we've just seen with Fury and Usyk, Usyk isn't a big heavyweight, he was a cruiser weight and only has 23 fights to his name. And he's just beaten an all time great, a mountain of a man in Tyson Fury.
Boxing is NOT about how big you are. If it is, tell that to Jack Dempsey
I just want to say that I really really enjoy and appreciate these videos of this format and would definitely welcome more videos of other fighters in the future. It’s very rewarding and beyond interesting to hear the thoughts of his peers on his character and skill set.
Man I love this channel.
Greatest boxer that ever lived.... never lost a fight...all knot out.
Rock Marciano greatest boxer 🥊
its a shame that rocky gets overlooked and almost never gets talked about by todays big boys (fury/joshua/usyk etc) as time goes by its more clear that he was the greatest HEAVYWEIGHT..............EVER
He ain’t pretty he’s DEVASTATING , Rocky Marciano.
Thanks for another great video.
Thank you so much for these clips 👊🏾
In 1955 a group of researchers at a military facility were asked to determine just how much marciano could ruin someone's with his fist if he really went for it.after a few tests researchers concluded that marciano's punches were comparable to "armor piercing bullets" and that the force he exerted with a single punch was roughly the same amount of force it would require to lift 1000 pounds a clear foot off ground. Meaning marciano could technically, if he really wanted to, have punched a fucking refrigerator 5 feet across the room. *
According to boxing historians, one of marciano's widow-makers registered a score of "925 foot pounds". If you have no idea what the hell foot pounds are, that's the unit of measurement commomly used to measure the force behind bullets! Taking into the account the fact marciano was wearing boxing gloves when that test was conducted, it's safe to say his actual punching power sat close to a 1000 foot pounds which is comparable to the kind of power behind a 44 magnum, the gun dirty harry famously said could blow a man's head clean off. and marciano was packing this kind of power, in his arms!
According to our researchers, a refrigerator weighs on average abbout 200 pounds, given that marciano's punch contained enough force to move 1000 pounds straight up, it's likely that with a good enough punch, he could lift a refrigerator clean off the ground and send it through the air. Which is awesome
Love hearing Walcott and Moore talk about Rocky. Great fighters who were pure class even in defeat.
Great vid. Thank you
He retired as the UNDEFEATED, UNDISPUTED Heavyweight Champion of the World. That's how unstoppable he was!!!
My favorite Genuine Authentic Heavyweights are 290 lb Zhang, 290 lb Bakole, 265 lb Briggs, 265 lb Grant, 250 lb Foreman, 250 lb Vitali, 250 lb Peter, 250 lb Joshua, 250 lb Parker, 245 lb Lennox, 245 lb Ibeabuchi, 245 lb Kabayel and 223 lb Usyk. No disrespect but 184 lbs with flyweight reach is just too Small.
@@Sara_Sky_Sutton... Marciano beat a lot of boxers as big or bigger than those
@@testy518 Name Them! Rocky's largest opponent was 254 lb Humphrey Jackson who was an amateur with a career 4 wins 3 losses.
Southpaw 200 lb Cruiserweight Usyk is actually bigger than Ali. Joshua came in at 240 lbs, only an 18 lb weight advantage over Usyk 222 lbs 6'3.2" height 78.2" reach. Holyfield 218 lbs 6'2.5" height 78" reach. Michael Spinks 208 lbs 6' 2.5" height 76" reach. Ali 215 lbs 6'2.5" (passport) height 78" reach. And of course we mustn't forget 185 lb 5'10" little white Rocky with his famously shortest "ever" 67" inch bantamweight T-rex alligator arm reach.
Maybe little white Rocky could have beaten that circus clown Jess Willard who was paraded around for 4 years without a single fight. Or maybe he could have even beat that other circus clown Primo Carnera who was daily alcoholic (like Andre the Giant) and 100% mafioso controlled. The ‘ambling alp’ was an awful boxer with gigantism or acromegaly (like Andre the Giant). He was promoted as a monster because of his size, but he was really clumsy and couldn`t punch with his full weight, he was completely exposed by Joe Louis who easily battered Primo into submission.
It is very difficult to beat someone who just doesn't give up.
Love Rockey 💪🏼👍🏻
His trainer summed him up entirely when he found out that Rocky had died in a place crash. He said.... if only I could have got there and began counting over him, he would have got up
He made 6 title defenses and fought lots of unknown tomato cans however he was a so powerful and had a great will and very strong the longer the fight the stronger he got is what they say .
Am i alone in saying I have no clue why his technique is dogged. These are some of the cleanest haymakers I've ever seen and he sustained it all fight
G.o.a.t 🐐
His fights with Wolcott and Charles are evidence of his greatness.
He was like a wrecking ball with arms in the ring.
Heart, strength, determination, punching power and non-stop aggression from beginning to end.
I don't think Ali or Tyson could have beaten him. Even Ali needed a break in the middle rounds in a long fight. If he got tired with Marciano boom boom out go the lights. I don't think Tyson would fare well with Rocky either.
Vídeo fantástico.❤️💪✌️👍👍👍
When Joe Louis says he was the best you were the best.
Marciano is the greatest heavyweight in a great school of fighters.
Great post. From the guys who know.
thx
Unlimited stamina, Massive punch bigger heart, every possible thing going against him and overcame it all. No i don't think he could compete with the giant modern heavyweights, but he is an all time great who would rule the cruiserweight division. Do NOT let the casuals ans haters tell u he was a simple brawler with no defense. U dont go 49-0 with poor defense that just doesn't happen. Was he unorthodox? Yes was he much more subtle? Yes but he absolutely was a boxer
Months on end trained ran 5, 10, 15 miles a day..
Calestinics and 300 lb. Heavy bag..Legs and punching power..
beautiful video. can't wait for the full doc.
The most hated and underrated heavyweight ever. People say he's too small but forget that david tua , joe frazier and mike tyson were all under 6 feet and were still one of the best heavyweights. He probably would have even bulked for today's standards amd imo could have easily reached around 220 lbs. Marciano may not have that much muscle mass and lifting strength but he for sure has the most impact strength in boxing history after deontay wilder. He has the most stamina , most durability , the greatest granite chin , the most endurance and the heart of a lion.
Truly the true and ultimate GOAT 🐐 👊 🥊
could have literally beaten every heavyweight in history even after starting boxing at 23 or 25
Don't forget leave out the fact that many hate him simply for the fact he was white
I dont see how a cruiserweight who's best scalps are older men and older lightheavweights, who retired before he reached their age, is the most hated when italian americans still call him the greatest in 2024
@@devilface97 he defeated everyone who was put in front of him
He could've literally destroyed everyone in boxing history cause of his unmatched physical attributes amd abilities.
You r dreaming
@@krrishsharma7859 consider his level of competition, it wasn't great.
Rocky is top 5 .
Thanks
Don't care who he fought. it's not easy to stay undefeated
Il più grande di tutti. Una leggenda.
🔥 🔥 🔥
Let’s gooo
Great video
I've heard a lot of opposition about him fighting wore out nobody's,even people saying he cowardly avoided a fight with sonny liston, then the boxing commission should made it happen ,Rocky was hard punching tough Italian, and a fine disciplined champion ,
Liston's career was in its infancy when Rocky retired. Rocky had probably never even heard of him then
“Never took a step back” LMAO
Wish he fought Patterson that would have been interesting. As others saud he had great conditioning and was just relentless
Floyd was a gentleman and a talented heavyweight. But Rocky would have destroyed Patterson. Cus kept Floyd away from Rocky and the belt, soon as Rocky retired Floyd moved up. Cus even admitted this and so did Floyd.
Rocky is the best role model of all-time.
Tyson is 100% cringe. They shouldn't be in the same video.
Rocky could take a beating and keep moving forward- Always throwing hard, mean, unending, punches- Awesome conditioning.
I wonder if the guy who has 15 accounts dedicated to hating on Rocky is gonna make it here
Martytdd1606 comments might be him.
Devil face 97
@devilface97
Oh yeah he has whole essays lmao, dont understand people like that. And its always the same phrases too. “Little marciano, overrated, old joe louis… “ he even enjoys using out of context quotes too, makes it seem like he’s smart or something. Reality is, he’s absolutely miserable.
Edit: Yep he’s here, Stout Krout & David Frost. He’s using the same profile pictures as other commenters to blend in.
He was only named 10th best ever heavyweight. 10th???????
Yuhh!
this my list top ten HW 1Liston 2Jhonson 3Dempsey 4Louis 5Tunney 6Clay 7Marciano 8Tyson 9Frazier 10Foreman