Ancelotti’s book has some fascinating insight into Zlatan’s character, how he wants the best for the team and nothing else. Ancelotti says something along the lines of “there is no striker other than Zlatan that is just as happy with an assist as a goal.”
@@Honorbound43 no, it wa writen after. Carletto said it 6 months ago in an Italian channel as well. Ibras career shows it, he doesn't give 2 fucks if he scores or not. He just wants to win. He basically played with 1 knee and in the last 10 mins for 3 months for Milan to win the title.
It wasn't that Guardiola told him to come to training in 'low profile cars', the team was actually told they needed to show up for training in the club sponsored cars - the very cars each of the players chose and received for the season. Zlatan kept showing up in his sports cars while everyone else pulled up in their Audis...
Any and all sides involved in a conflict centred around showing up in “the wrong luxury car” deserve to be saddled with unending amounts of deep deep spiritual shame😂. So embarrassing… We truly live in the worst timeline lol. (Although Zlatan might just get the pass for being my favourite irl cartoon character, but I’m not prepared to commit to that just yet😂)
Over time Mourinho has been proven right time and time again. At the time I thought Mou was being an ass but he was right about alot of players and clubs
That’s one thing people don’t give Sir Alex enough credit for aswell, he was great at managing egos and man management. He was excellent at altering his approach to get the best out of everyone.
Personally I don’t think zlatan “failed” at Barcelona,I mean 21 goals and 18 in all competitions I wouldn’t call taht failure I just think he didn’t fit into Peps plans
I agree, that's why I put it in quotations.😌 I think the only failure is from the club's side: paying that much money, not utilizing him properly despite knowing exactly the kind of player he is, and then selling at a massive loss.
Pep doesn’t like out and out strikers. He’s made that woefully clear throughout his career and black ppl are replaceable for him. The only strikers he hasn’t replaced were aguero because he is a man city legend. Lewa obviously the same reason. Haaland is still up in the air if he can actually fit pep’s style. I doubt it rn they are having to change a lot for him.
@@Honorbound43 Not really, Haaland has kind of disproven that already. Although, I do believe Pep will create an even more dangerous monster out of Haaland, where he can operate as a no.10 as well, enhancing his passing, vision and ball control. Let's see.
The same thing happened to David Villa. But Villa is too much of a gentleman to say something. He was put on the wing and sacrificed for Messi. Villa was on fire every time he played as a striker. He won the World Cup for Spain. Only him and Iniesta were in shape for the World Cup, those two carried the team.
Villa was also good in the wings and messi was a better player false 9 then him. I don’t understand why people are getting mad for messi to want to play in his own position. He is obviously more important to Barca then newcomers like zlatan and villa but you guys always have an agenda
@@Dranzer21 then why sign strikers to have them play on the wing just so Messi can take the central position? 😂 at the end of the day it really came down to the whole team being built around Messi at the sacrifice of others success…
@@commieslayer7046 well to answer how’s that worked out for them… we’ll since iniesta and xavi dúo Messi hasn’t won a ucl…so maybe they should’ve changed their game
You arent mentioning that Zlatan said that when he arrived to Barcelona he was surprised that everyone was like a good school boy obeying everything pep told them to do. That explains a lot about why Pep wouldnt like Zlatan, he was a rebel and Pep wouldnt want Zlatan to poison the locker room.
Suarez played in a way where he was less involved in build up than zlatan. Zlatan likes to touch the ball, the opposite of Suarez. Suarez makes runs in behind to create space for messi( and neymar, at the time)
Suarez was less of a target man like Zlatan, more of a fox in the box. Plus, he was a motor up at the centre, always creating spaces for Messi and Neymar.
Don't take the words of an arrogant egoist at face value and think that Leo was a control freak don in the dressing room. And why so much weight behind Zlatan's words ? If he was such a great striker, why didn't he ever win a golden boot ?! A couple of good goals and a loud mouth and all the little kids start frothing at their mouths. Suarez won a golden boot playing alongside Messi and that alone should be a testament to Leo's selflessness who has always made sure that his teammates shine alongside him. In that season when Zlatan was struggling to score Leo gave him a penalty which Leo himself had won. That doesn't look like the action of an ego maniac ? Zlatan is just being a bitter b!tch because he didn't get to be the alpha in Barcelona and the club didn't kow tow to him so he's held on to that petty grudge like a petulant child.
It’s pretty simple. Suarez and Neymar knew how to play alongside a centurian talent and complement him. Zlatan couldn’t do it. He was not comfortable with any role except number one.
Excellent video Adrian. Easily my favorite football channel on youtube especially when it comes to these deep dives kind of videos. The way you mix up your own thoughts and those of your guests is such a treat to watch man. Ps, I've also read somewhere that the reason that Pep eventually left barcelona had a bit to do not only with the issues with Laporta but also consistently having to manage messi's playtime and position just as per his liking took a bit of a toll on him and unlike the other strikers and players he has alienated and freezed out in the past and then later on in his time with Man City (Yaya Toure would surely attest to that lol), messi is just not someone you could do it to(especially considering the kind of supernatural form he was in). Really goes to show how much influence Messi has regarding the off-pitch issues and kind of goes against the image we associate him with. Even Ronaldo never commanded that kind of support from the club whenever he demanded it. Not tryna slander messi in anyway btw, he's my favorite player of all time. Just interesting to look at this side of him xD
He didn't have any issues with Laporta because Laporta was no longer the president at the time Pep left... which is the reason he left. He didn't have Rosell's backing and the Spanish media attacked him all the time.
This is a underrated video. I was actually a Barca fan back then with Ronaldinho, Eto, xavi, Iniesta, Ibra etc. Im introverted like Messi and it always shocked me when people didn't know Messi had a Massive Ego, people always pointing to other players as some kind of scapegoat for this. Its no suprise that Messi had the Team built around him since after la masia, and later in career controlling the players coming in. As Alex had mentioned, It was Ibras dream to play for barca but he had to leave the whole formation had changed even though he scored more than Messi & outshined him many times, Zlatan fit the team but just didn't fit the centre piece, he had to work for Leo Messi, Leo's childhood friends looked for & passed it to Leo Messi like a popular kid 😅, ultimately Ibra made a sacrificial choice and wanted nothing but the best for Barca, I enjoyed watching him play.
" scored more than Messi and outshined him many times " - an absolute donut, nobody outshone Messi that season, Ibra the least. He was dribbling through entire defences to score and then you with your clown mouth think that Ibra was ever better than Leo. On the other hand when Zlatan was struggling to score that season Messi even gave away a penalty to him which Messi had won, that doesn't sound to me like an ego maniac considering the other ego maniac who has never in his life left a penalty for his teammate. Luis Suarez won a golden boot playing alongside Messi, how did that happen if Messi was the don of the dressing room and the team was playing for him. One of the most selfless player who has always made sure that his teammates shine with him all of a sudden is a control freak egotist on the words of who - Zlatan ! Give me a break, Zlatan got all hurty in the feelings because the club didn't kow tow to him and he wasn't the centre of attention and he's held on that till this day like a petulant kid. Messi is the greatest thing to have ever set foot on the pitch, a thousand Zlatans and their egoistic whining ain't going to affect his reputation. So bugger off with your clown take.
Are we falling again for the "Messi called Pep in the bus" myth?? It's clear that the issue with Zlatan and Pep was that he didn't want him at Barca in the first place. Pep asked for Villa and wanted Messi to play as a false 9 because it worked very well in the final part of the 08/09 season. Every time Zlatan talks about is time in Catalunya he never really talks about a supposed conflict with Messi, on the contrary, he seemingly only has positive things to say about him. We all know Zlatan, we know that he would talk a lot of sh*t about Messi if he had sabotaged Zlatan's passaged in Barcelona. Also it is well know that Pep doesn't like to work with people with big ego's, that's why he wanted to sell Etoo. Looking back at this Zlatan signing just shows how it was already common at the time for Barca to signing superstars that don't fit in the team for big money and then instantly regret it. Latest cases of this were Coutinho and Griezmann and we know how that ended up...
If Zlatan had played for Barca for a longer time the only thing that would have happened is that Zlatan would have contributed loads to Barca's success but still all the plaudits and Balondor would have gone to Messi.
@@Biggie_ch33se man but from what's come out about cancelo then you gotta understand the reason, that being said, SHIT SUCKS 🥲🥲🥲🥲 that assist for haaland vs dortmund lives rent free in my head lmao
@@chinortega3 agreed man. It makes total sense, and Rico has earned a spot in the squad. He was one of my favorite players though and nostalgia got me by the throat 😭
@@chinortega3 tbf, Cancelo tried to act bigger than the club, look, man's a gem for us and is a key player, but after that Liverpool game, he's been have a poor run, even in the WC he was getting benched, he's been poor, shit like that happens, but it's up to Cancelo to work for his place, but he threated the club he will leave, City were like bet, go on then
Liked how you looked at both scenarios and presented them evenly. Zlatan was a bright talent but could not gel with the main men and therefore had to go and find success at another club. Much like playing in a rock band,you can have a talented guitarist join a band but cannot gel with the frontman,then he ends up leaving the band to find success with another project that gels well with his talents and persona.
Trading Eto'o for Ibra + 69 million was the best deal for Inter. Back then 69 million for a single player was ALOT of money. Add to that Etoo's market value this was a ~100 mil transfer. Inter were able to buy Sneijder, Milito, Motta and Lucio with that money and win the Champions League. btw, 08/09 Etoo scored 30 goals in 36 games. Pretty much peak to me.
Guardiola does not like egos but has a weakeness with Messi. Guardiola aways said the Messi made him the coach he is today. So can you really argue with the results.
I think we all know the answer to that, Pep can’t work with ego’s it’s why claiming he resembles Cruyff seems really dumb since Cruyff could work with ego’s. Guardiola has more in line with Van Gaal than with Cruyff
Cruyff both as a player & as a coach was one of the biggest egoistic person in the sport lol The main reason for his Barca team to suffer the worst beating in UCL final history was him clashing with Michael Laudrup
@@Honorbound43 there are about 4 players that have said negative things about Pep. Ribery, Yaya, Eto’o, and Zlatan. There are more players from each of the clubs he has managed that say positive things. So why listen to only the negatives from players with known ego problems that existed before and after Pep?
Funny...Ibra who's also known for his Massive ego has matured and taken a guardianship role at AC Milan and happy to play a squad role. CR7 should have done something similar at United instead of acting so immature.
I'm confused with a fact check: I remember Zlatan saying Guardiola didn't ever say a word to him since day one. Another source says they spoke normally and it was at the halfway point that Guardiola gave him the silent treatment. In any case it's bizarre. Shame it didn't work out.
In the book of Zlatan he said after Messi asked for the false 9 position which made Zlatan play out of his position. Zlatan confronted Pep in a conversation and after it started. 'When I entered the room Pep would just walk out'
Who specifically is providing the "stories" about Messi? Second or third-hand stories about him being a "little tyrant" can't be taken too seriously, to be honest. On the other hand, Zlatan changes team every two or three years, mostly because of his well-known "eccentric" personality.
That's one of the downsides of Messi's quiet demeanor, his silence and humility is often taken as an excuse to try to walk all over him and spread hearsay about how he has an ego and he controlled the whole club when anyone who's seen him over the years knows how selfless he is. Suarez won the golden boot playing alongside him, how's that possible if Messi was such a control freak ?! And what player doesn't get angry or frustrated at times with his teammates ? We can't take rare events and then paint his whole personality that way completely dismissing his good behaviour but apparently there's no dearth of that petty stuff
@@naazahs9045 nobody said messi is a dictator, but its obvious why hed want that. Its his team and hes the star player. If he wants to play centrally, he will do so or theres a chance he will leave. I dont think its substantial but its just an ego that most ppl in his position would have. Every star player would do the same
A hard piece to end on " ...could have been . . . " Definitely, the growth mindset can't be cacooned to a fixed one. Increasing the odds to truly finding the right fit needs to be more understanding than what we might initially think.
Zlatan mentioned a point that not a lot of people realsed , said that after loss to inter he gave me a look like i was the only one who played bad which means that their relation really broke after inter loss as zlatan sadly played bad game againest inter
did Zlatan not fit into the team? That ll be absolutely wrong to say, considering the numbers he generated, not just at barca, but at every club he has been in. He is an exceptional player. Did he not fit in with the coach, absolutely yes.
I think it makes a lot of sense for suarez and Messi to get along. Especially after his spell in liverpool. Im a lfc fan, and I watched Luis, and he was an alien for us. Issue is he was the guy to win games for us, turn games on its head. Almost a 1 man team. He had Gerrard, Coutinho, who supported him at times, but it felt like it was 90% him. Suarez was an animal. he's a winner, and nothing gets in the way of winning. The whole Ivanovic thing is a great example. He was a madman, but there was this game where he scored a goal, and the rest of the team, instead of celebrating with him, started jogging back to their half. The look on suarez face then was straight confusion. It was such a weird thing for me (i was like 11 so i didnt understand a lot of things then) but I'd like to think that humbled him a bit that he didn't exactly have the support he needed for his type of crazy drive to win. SO HIM BEING ABLE TO BR APART OF A TRIO LIKE MSN AND WIN? AND PLAY FUN FOOTBALL? I think it made sense. My memories of suarez are that he didn't care who was central. He just wanted to win.
@@daarom3472 yeah I always said if we had Neymar 2019 we would have got the UCL, Messi entering another prime that year and Barca needed Neymar’s mentality in anfield. But that’s Neymar money hungry at that time and he still regrets the decision😢
1:37 this is exact reason I was skeptical about Haaland to Barça. Don't get it confused, Haaland doesn't fit at City either, but Pep is playing an adjusted format of the Barça system with City, and Haaland scores just the same way that Zlatan scored at Barça, they are great strikers who end up at the end of the play to finish, but they are for the most part NOT involved in the build up. Look at City recent UCL & English Cup games, WHERE IS HAALAND? However, he could be a factor vs Inter in UCL final.
The thing about Ibra is that he came into an already-established Barca side which was one of the best teams in history! His style did not match that of the team and he looked as if he was trying too hard!
This whole messi is a dictator at barcelona and argentina thing is just a rumor fabricated by as and Marca, originating from the fact that rosell/barto (mostly barto) tried using Messi's name inorder to sign a high profile player. The Andre gomes and Antoine griezmann stories are great examples of the Spanish(castillian) media using barca's transfer tactics against them.
literally 😭😭😭😭😭 it is SO funny that the same people that accuse Messi of telling the Barca board who to buy and who to sell are the same people that accuse Messi of not being a vocal captain. On top of that, it was LITERALLY confirmed by the Spanish police that Barto was PAYING money to outlets to slander players and their families in the media, he got charged with that??? But nobody pays attention because they like the idea that Messi is secretly a tyrant in the dressing room.
Eto'o last season in Barcelona : 40 goals, 7 assists in 57 matches. Also completed the Treble. Ibra in Inter : 29 goals, 10 assists in 47 matches. One Scudetto in a Juve-less league. How underrated are African players ?
@Zaka Toto: Yes, but why don’t you also compare Zlatan and Eto’o’s stats in Inter? There it was the other way around. But I agree with you, Eto’o was a great player!
Yeah and at inter Zlatan out performed eto in his last season...plus Eto didn't face problems like Zlatan did.... Inter had their perfect treble winning season.... They brought probably their best player and difference maker in that era, Sneijder.... State all the facts not just the ones that suit you
I personally didnt even know much about this but for me it seems like Zlatan was hella disrespected. Yeah Messi is obviously insane and probably the best player ever but at the end of the day, it’s a team not 11 v 1. They probably could have made it work but it seems like Guardiola wasn’t willing to do so
5:40 strikers get the limelight, they like that and they live in it. Guardiola doesn't like the bi-product of that, he thinks TEAM and if you are not playing in a way that says TEAM, you and he will have problems because you are focusing on just scoring for the fame and not playing in the way he instructs. That's Real Madrid formula, not Barcelona, well at least Pep's Barcelona. He and Lewy were fine because Lewy plays TEAM. So far seem ok with Haaland, Haaland see him as a super hero and respects Pep.
It wasn’t that Guardiola was betting on another horse (i.e. Messi). It’s as simple as Guardiola not liking players that cause trouble in the dressing room and among the group. You didn’t mentioned that when Guardiola was appointed coach of FC Barcelona in the summer of 2008, at his first press conference he said he didn’t want Eto’o, Ronaldinho, and Deco as part of his project and that they had to leave. He managed to send Ronaldinho to AC Milan and Deco to Chelsea, but he was unable to find a team for Eto’o and that’s why he stayed there for Guardiola’s first year. But as soon as he could, Guardiola kicked Eto’o out. Same as he just did by sending Cancelo to Bayern after an apparent disagreement during a training session. That’s the same reason why Guardiola left Barça. He was trying to do dressing room cleanup, which some reporting at the time indicated would have included big players like Pique, Dani Alves and Fabregas, but Laporta gone, he didn’t felt he would be backed by the new Barcelona president to make those changes.
It was just not a good transfer for Barca. Clearly, it was not possible to have Zlatan and Messi on the same team long-term. You could even say that Barcelona were greedy to want to have both Messi and Zlatan at the same time. That's like trying to put two engines inside of one car, it just doesn't work (maybe not the best metaphor but you get the point). The fact they even paid Inter sooooo much money on top of Eto'o said it all really. It was just incredibly short-sighted on their part.
And the reason barcelona is struggling now , is because they relied so much on messi , it got worse every year , especially after xavi and Iniesta were gone . And after messi left , they had nothing left
10:18 You used the fact that they spoke really well about Zlatan to say that the problem wasn't between them, but isn't it contradictory to then conclude that the problem was between Zlatan and Messi (and Pep), considering how Zlatan has endlessly had nothing but praises and good things whenever he talk about Messi? You see, this is the thing I don't like about the football community (or literally every single community), all of the "locker room stories" are just rumors with no confirmation, yet people bring it up everywhere and talk about it like it's a matter of fact
Maybe I wasn't clear, so that's my bad and I'll clear this up for you. Issues started because Messi isn't exactly easy to play with as Alex said, and demands to play where he's best, which was the same area as Ibra. Ibra highlighted this and I used two quotes from him: "Messi started to talk...", "He didn't like that I was scoring more goals" etc. However, he didn't hold that against Messi, because he knows that falls upon the coach to make the call in the end. So while Messi's actions influenced Guardiola, it's Guardiola who ultimately makes the call, and ended up stonewalling him and freezing him out, as Ibra said. Hope that helps! Apologies for the lack of clarity.
@@RabonaTV These quotes are from Ibra's book... and you do know that he has admitted that he made up a bunch of stuff in it, right? Ibra is a self-confessed unreliable narrator, it's part of his image.
To understand this debacle understand hubris and ego, and their role in shaping protagonism versus antagonism. Barça are an academy setup for a good reason, no shame on failing to adjust on any part, player nor team and staff (💁🏻♂️ am Culè) but I really wish their relationship hadn’t collapsed… 🖖🏼
It's much like the various Basque and Navarrese clubs which have a heavy develop within the academy for different reasons. Osasuna makes most of their money selling guys, mostly to Bilbao for profit.
@@Eibarwoman it’s an evolving ecosystem, I’m not Catalan but have supported Barça since Romário’s playing days when I first discovered soccer as many Brazilians did through him and many more, but the same is evident in all major leagues and minors emulate what? The majors. Football has become a calamity and it’s been unraveling for decades now. I just hope it is all reborn with sustainability in mind for perpetuity, clubs are as much their communities as their communities are represented through the many clubs and athletic organizations. Frankly, a one world Olympic regime to organize sports for ruling and administration models would better serve not only football but all facets of athletics. Maybe in that world, Ibra can live his Barcelona dreams and we win the Champions League clean instead of refereeing errors costing us the return leg in Catalunya to Internazionale… but I digress 🥲
basically, that one super-idealistic, genius lecturer, vs one ex-bully kid that is a prodigy in his own certain ways. Doomed to be uncooperative and full of clashes.
Pep may have made one of the best teams ever , and ibra may be an egomaniac, but its clear that he has a point. Barça had just won Ucl in 2006, before pep arrive, with Dinho being the best footballer in the world then, and Eto being a killer as well, and pep showed no respect for either of them. Im sure that team, with Dinho, eto or ibra, and mess in his prime would still be winning everything with or without pep
It makes sense now I think about it. I remember a story of Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton not actually getting alone. Apparently Shearer never liked him and saw him as a threat. I also think if the shoe was on the other foot Ibrahimovic would have acted the same as Messi if not worse. Not to judge but Adriano at Inter Milan was displaced by Ibrahimovic.
@@CoachNiklas @Niklas Daver I know how Adriano father died and he had a drinking problem that stem from there, but I just say this because when did Ibra have a striking partner? He was arrogant all the way through his career. Niklas maybe your right but just speculated. The question i ask is your can you have 2 Alfa's in a Lion Pride?
He played with Cavani for years. He’s had quite a few striker partners but Cavani is a good example of two players with MASSIVE egos who got along very well on the pitch
The reason why Zlatan and Guardiola failed to click because Guardiola built a Barcelona side around Messi and plus Messi plays in a false nine and Zlatan cannot play on the wings unlike Villa that joined one year later.
It's not just about Zlatan being salty or anything, it's just he didn't fit to Pep's tactics and system. If you buy Diesel fuel for a moped it's simply just not gonna work even though it's also a type of fuel
I'm a Guardiola fan-boy man. The video was nice, informative even but that part about Guardiola having a huge ego comparable to Zlatan, CR7 etc kept me from leaving a like. I disagree but I love the video and respect your work and opinions.
Zlatan is constantly talked about by former coaches and teammates as an incredibly selfless guy and that the ego is just for show (mostly) Its absolutely insane that barca fans have been able to spin the narrative of Messi being humble for so long. Dude has absolutely zero humility and might be the biggest ego in world football
Pep Guardiola was absolutely right. Football is a team of 11 and the coach is the leader. Players that don't listen to the coach don't have a place in the team no matter how important those players are. Even Messi should have been kicked out from Barca already in 2019 due to his egocentric conduct against the managers that greatly helped in Barcelona's decay those years. No player is above the team and above the coach not even the best in history like Messi.
Nobody can blame Zlatan for his ego,because it was decided from above...if you open his natural Vedic chart,you will see that in his dna code,a configuration of personality he has saturn (mastery) together with the sun (ego and father) and jupiter right there (prosperity point) so if you want the best out of him you will not treat him as the second one or winger
Pep is never interested in making a 'Super Team' with a ton of star names.. if you don't want to fit into the system he decides to go with then you can leave. It doesnt matter how big the name.
After seeing this video I’m Kinda of disappointed that Messi couldn’t be GOAT he should be because he couldn’t adapt and made others adapt to him. A great player sets the mood and leads unfortunately I think Barcelona made the wrong decision
They made the absolutely correct decision in off-loading Ibra. They replaced him with David Villa, the player they wanted and needed all along, and created literally the best club side in history that dominated everyone in 10-11. Pep's and Messi's results speak for themselves, that's why no Barca fan takes Ibra's side on this.
It is very much clear that Messi ran Barca all those years and everything was made to cater for him. The reason MSN was successful was that, even though Suarez was the decider for Barcelona and the main reason for their success, he could not take anything publicly in terms of fame and fortune given that he was on probation and the only threat to that, was Neymar, who unsurprisingly left Barcelona. Griezmann had the same issues, if Messi does not like you the team will cater to that. It is similar for Argentina. The difference later in his career is that the current crop worship him and are easier to manipulate and even if someone like a Di Maria is better than him in the NT, he is not big enough to surpass him in the public eye. Zlatan's time though, it was a failure on the fact that it never blossomed to what it needed to be. It was based on various factors but Zlatan's ability is certainly not one. So it cannot be used a detriment on his career.
@@rmv9194 that is a lie and you know it. In 2010 he played in 5/5, in 2014 it was 5/7, he missed the last two and Argentina failed to threaten dangerously and would have lost the semi without Mascherano and Romero. In 2018 he played 3/4, the one he missed was the battering by Croatia. In 2022 he was the teams best player again. He played in 5/7, Argentina were at the most dangerous when he was on the pitch even in his cameo vs the Netherlands. 18/23 sounds like most games to me.
Why are you guys trying to make him out to be a dictator. He asked to play in his position as it’s rightfully his. Zlatan came into a ucl winning Barcelona and a prime Messi you think he would give up his spot for some dude. Pathetic how you guys are writing essays about some bs. Zlatan thinks highly of messi and called him the goat and protected messi. Stop spewing nonsense about some catering. Of course they are going to cater to the goat you thought he was a random player
@@Dranzer21 because he is. Messi is very conscious of the power he has and used it when he can at Barca. He very much well knows that Barca will cater to his every need because of the money he brings in. When they were trash he left them behind to join a bigger team so that he can win the Champions League but Bartomeu had other ideas. Messi has an obsession of control, both on and off the pitch. He is an exceptional player but a lot of the things he has done have been brushed aside to paint this idea that he is this humble team player who cannot put a foot wrong which is far from the truth.
@@Dranzer21 Zlatan's main problem was Pep and Zlatan is also in the know about who Messi is. If he were to ever attack Messi he'd be lambasted all over the place. Anyone who has been following the game since '05 knows that he is the golden boy of the game, which is why we are told to worship him. If you don't and we expose things he does, you will be labelled hater.
Hoping the next few videos will be how Chelsea can spend 500 mill plus in 1 season and why Liverpool are failing... Both subjects need your unique take on it 👍
First one is easy enough. The transfer fee is written off in the books over the course of the players contract with the club. This is common practice in European football and bookkeeping in any major industry upon purchasing fixed assets (which players are classified as, immaterial sporting fixed assets to be precise). For instance Chelsea buys a player for 100 million euros and gives him a 5 yr contract. As far as the books and FFP are concerned that transfer costs Chelsea 20 million per year for the coming 5 years regardless of the payment structure Chelsea agrees with the selling club. Remember the Pjanic - Arthur swap between Juve and Barca? That was a bookkeeping loophole making full use of this method. Instead of a straight swap they bought the players of one another for massive fees knowing that they could write the full received fee as profit in the books for that season while only having to put a fifth of the outgoing fee in the books that year, thus fixing their negative balance for that year and complying with FFP. They basically sent each other 70 million euros so they could put 70 million profit in their books and only 14 million in expense that year for that season, a profit of 56 million while in fact there wasn't a profit. So Chelsea is just dishing out incredibly long contracts to their signings to spread out the cost towards their FFP regulations. This is something that any club can do but chooses not to. Most clubs feel it is too great a risk. For one if a player fails then you're stuck with him for way longer. Another reason is room to manoeuvre on the transfermarket. Simply put: they just spent 600 million euro's in one go and spread the writing off out over a 7-8 year period instead of the usual 4-5 years. This means that their signing spree now costs them about 75 million / year for the next 8 years limiting their spending power in that period.
Messi has always seemed a slimy individual to me, I never bought into his humble Guy persona... How many great talents were sacrificed to make him the so called GOAT?
I think Zlatan was not quick enough for Barca and Messi could fit a striker in front of him without problems if the striker could keep the ball going at the same speed. Suarez, Villa, Benzema, maybe Lewandowsky were the only strikers who had that ability, and now we see Alvarez doing the same. But Zlatan slowed the game, made poor decisions, then missed big chances because of the pressure and that made the whole situation problematic for the team. I don't think this could be fixed because at his height is easy to understand why Iniesta or Messi made him look slow. I think that the best striker for Barcelona would have been Benzema, but the board failed to see that. While Barca was eliminated by Inter in UCL, and Zlatan didn't helped a lot, Barcelona was eliminated because of the catastrophic decisions made by the referees who were probably bribed by Inter. So some of the failures have nothing to do with Zlatan or Guardiola. So why Benzema was the best option? Because Benzema was more mobile, has incredible ball control and is a complete striker. Villa was actually great and I feel he wasn't a lesser star, just look at the stats before Barcelona, but he lacked strong muscles to dominate defenses. So actually Barcelona just made the decision that was needed, bringing a striker who can play their football, but Benzema was not available anymore. Once they had that striker, Messi was happy to play on the right wing and in center, because the play was working regardless of his position. So don't blame Messi for Zlatan being a striker who was not very fit to play in a team that could hold the ball in front of the box for ages. That meant Zlatan had less space to work in and that equals mistakes that give the ball away or ruins the chance of scoring. Not every player can play along side Messi or Iniesta in front of the box. And for sure I don't consider Zlatan a player who is not talented, but the speed of Barcelona was insane.
One thing we have to acknowledge is the way in which Eto'o boasted about himself. "I was the reason not Messi..." precisely shows why Guardiola let him go. He was just way too full of himself.
Well pep guardiola know the greatest in the world who make him great too because Messi is lonely top level then zalatan and Etos combine ... so its great decision of pep ❤❤❤❤💜💜💜💜🔟🐐🇦🇷
Ancelotti’s book has some fascinating insight into Zlatan’s character, how he wants the best for the team and nothing else. Ancelotti says something along the lines of “there is no striker other than Zlatan that is just as happy with an assist as a goal.”
Benzema but I think the book was written before he his first tenure
Well there's Suarez, but Ancelotti didn't play with him. So, I get what he means.
I’m sure that Pep would say something different.
But where are the stats? Why isn't Ibra an assist monster? He isn't even top 10
@@Honorbound43 no, it wa writen after. Carletto said it 6 months ago in an Italian channel as well. Ibras career shows it, he doesn't give 2 fucks if he scores or not. He just wants to win. He basically played with 1 knee and in the last 10 mins for 3 months for Milan to win the title.
It wasn't that Guardiola told him to come to training in 'low profile cars', the team was actually told they needed to show up for training in the club sponsored cars - the very cars each of the players chose and received for the season. Zlatan kept showing up in his sports cars while everyone else pulled up in their Audis...
Zlatan is a massive egomaniac... Oh what a surprise!
Any and all sides involved in a conflict centred around showing up in “the wrong luxury car” deserve to be saddled with unending amounts of deep deep spiritual shame😂. So embarrassing… We truly live in the worst timeline lol. (Although Zlatan might just get the pass for being my favourite irl cartoon character, but I’m not prepared to commit to that just yet😂)
@@tonyjabroni7205 guardiola simply cant handle players with egos
@@puljz8551 yes he does, telling them to gtfo is the best way of handling them
Telling eto gtfo is Something only a bald fraud would do
Zlatan and Mourinho was such a great combo at Inter and Mourinho was right when he told Ibra he’d be making a mistake going to Barca
Over time Mourinho has been proven right time and time again. At the time I thought Mou was being an ass but he was right about alot of players and clubs
Zlatan, peak Milito, and Sneijder. They could have Inter even more deadly.
@@jjj8317 Those players came because of Ibra money. Ibra didn't leave, 5/6 players wouldn't be signed for Inter... Milito and Sneijder 2 of them.
That’s one thing people don’t give Sir Alex enough credit for aswell, he was great at managing egos and man management. He was excellent at altering his approach to get the best out of everyone.
@@BigPurp9 There are a bunch of other better examples than Ferguson, Ancelotti and Capello two of them.
Its crazy that Ibra was worth one Eto’o plus 65 million
65 million 10 years ago as well.
That's genuinely ridiculous
Fairly cheap price for the god of football
@@MotswanaTota-012 True😂. Eto’o wasn’t a scrub though, so still that’s a crazy transfer
Zlatan was Incredible, enjoyed watching him play.
@@jumaclo Eto'o is actually better than Zlatan
Personally I don’t think zlatan “failed” at Barcelona,I mean 21 goals and 18 in all competitions I wouldn’t call taht failure I just think he didn’t fit into Peps plans
I agree, that's why I put it in quotations.😌 I think the only failure is from the club's side: paying that much money, not utilizing him properly despite knowing exactly the kind of player he is, and then selling at a massive loss.
Pep doesn’t like out and out strikers. He’s made that woefully clear throughout his career and black ppl are replaceable for him.
The only strikers he hasn’t replaced were aguero because he is a man city legend. Lewa obviously the same reason. Haaland is still up in the air if he can actually fit pep’s style. I doubt it rn they are having to change a lot for him.
That’s the point of the quotations
@@donthevalen yh I was just putting my opinion out their cuz I know alot of ppl label him an actual flop
@@Honorbound43 Not really, Haaland has kind of disproven that already. Although, I do believe Pep will create an even more dangerous monster out of Haaland, where he can operate as a no.10 as well, enhancing his passing, vision and ball control.
Let's see.
The same thing happened to David Villa. But Villa is too much of a gentleman to say something. He was put on the wing and sacrificed for Messi. Villa was on fire every time he played as a striker. He won the World Cup for Spain. Only him and Iniesta were in shape for the World Cup, those two carried the team.
Villa was also good in the wings and messi was a better player false 9 then him. I don’t understand why people are getting mad for messi to want to play in his own position. He is obviously more important to Barca then newcomers like zlatan and villa but you guys always have an agenda
David villa just couldn’t recover from the leg breaks
@@Dranzer21 then why sign strikers to have them play on the wing just so Messi can take the central position? 😂 at the end of the day it really came down to the whole team being built around Messi at the sacrifice of others success…
@@cristianlopez6801 yeah and? That has worked out for them how many CL did zlatan won?
@@commieslayer7046 well to answer how’s that worked out for them… we’ll since iniesta and xavi dúo Messi hasn’t won a ucl…so maybe they should’ve changed their game
You arent mentioning that Zlatan said that when he arrived to Barcelona he was surprised that everyone was like a good school boy obeying everything pep told them to do.
That explains a lot about why Pep wouldnt like Zlatan, he was a rebel and Pep wouldnt want Zlatan to poison the locker room.
Exactly, Guardiola wants pure obedience.
@@RuiLuz And he was right in doing it, Barca best team ever was when everyone obeyed him.
Everyone knew Zlatan was like that. Terrible recruiting from him and he still makes the same mistake
Guardiola deseves obedience and the players trust…he has showed it with wins..it’s simple as that
@@RuiLuz which top manager doesn't?
Lookin at this now it’s astonishing that Luis Suarez got along with Messi so well
Suarez played in a way where he was less involved in build up than zlatan. Zlatan likes to touch the ball, the opposite of Suarez. Suarez makes runs in behind to create space for messi( and neymar, at the time)
Suarez was less of a target man like Zlatan, more of a fox in the box. Plus, he was a motor up at the centre, always creating spaces for Messi and Neymar.
Don't take the words of an arrogant egoist at face value and think that Leo was a control freak don in the dressing room. And why so much weight behind Zlatan's words ? If he was such a great striker, why didn't he ever win a golden boot ?! A couple of good goals and a loud mouth and all the little kids start frothing at their mouths. Suarez won a golden boot playing alongside Messi and that alone should be a testament to Leo's selflessness who has always made sure that his teammates shine alongside him. In that season when Zlatan was struggling to score Leo gave him a penalty which Leo himself had won. That doesn't look like the action of an ego maniac ? Zlatan is just being a bitter b!tch because he didn't get to be the alpha in Barcelona and the club didn't kow tow to him so he's held on to that petty grudge like a petulant child.
@@MotswanaTota-012 Suarez, the guy that nearly carried a horrible Liverpool squad to a title, less involved in build up than Zlatan?
LMAO
It’s pretty simple. Suarez and Neymar knew how to play alongside a centurian talent and complement him. Zlatan couldn’t do it. He was not comfortable with any role except number one.
Man I’m a fan of your eloquent way of speaking / writing. Keep up the good work.
Miss these type of videos, thanks man
“And that allowed me to conquer the world.” Lol, that’s the Zlatan we know and love.
Excellent video Adrian. Easily my favorite football channel on youtube especially when it comes to these deep dives kind of videos. The way you mix up your own thoughts and those of your guests is such a treat to watch man. Ps, I've also read somewhere that the reason that Pep eventually left barcelona had a bit to do not only with the issues with Laporta but also consistently having to manage messi's playtime and position just as per his liking took a bit of a toll on him and unlike the other strikers and players he has alienated and freezed out in the past and then later on in his time with Man City (Yaya Toure would surely attest to that lol), messi is just not someone you could do it to(especially considering the kind of supernatural form he was in). Really goes to show how much influence Messi has regarding the off-pitch issues and kind of goes against the image we associate him with. Even Ronaldo never commanded that kind of support from the club whenever he demanded it. Not tryna slander messi in anyway btw, he's my favorite player of all time. Just interesting to look at this side of him xD
He didn't have any issues with Laporta because Laporta was no longer the president at the time Pep left... which is the reason he left. He didn't have Rosell's backing and the Spanish media attacked him all the time.
This is a underrated video. I was actually a Barca fan back then with Ronaldinho, Eto, xavi, Iniesta, Ibra etc. Im introverted like Messi and it always shocked me when people didn't know Messi had a Massive Ego, people always pointing to other players as some kind of scapegoat for this. Its no suprise that Messi had the Team built around him since after la masia, and later in career controlling the players coming in. As Alex had mentioned, It was Ibras dream to play for barca but he had to leave the whole formation had changed even though he scored more than Messi & outshined him many times, Zlatan fit the team but just didn't fit the centre piece, he had to work for Leo Messi, Leo's childhood friends looked for & passed it to Leo Messi like a popular kid 😅, ultimately Ibra made a sacrificial choice and wanted nothing but the best for Barca, I enjoyed watching him play.
Are you on crack
" scored more than Messi and outshined him many times " - an absolute donut, nobody outshone Messi that season, Ibra the least. He was dribbling through entire defences to score and then you with your clown mouth think that Ibra was ever better than Leo. On the other hand when Zlatan was struggling to score that season Messi even gave away a penalty to him which Messi had won, that doesn't sound to me like an ego maniac considering the other ego maniac who has never in his life left a penalty for his teammate. Luis Suarez won a golden boot playing alongside Messi, how did that happen if Messi was the don of the dressing room and the team was playing for him. One of the most selfless player who has always made sure that his teammates shine with him all of a sudden is a control freak egotist on the words of who - Zlatan ! Give me a break, Zlatan got all hurty in the feelings because the club didn't kow tow to him and he wasn't the centre of attention and he's held on that till this day like a petulant kid. Messi is the greatest thing to have ever set foot on the pitch, a thousand Zlatans and their egoistic whining ain't going to affect his reputation. So bugger off with your clown take.
Lol bunch of assumptions
@@Ronaldogoat2068 no thats exactly how it happened
Exactly. It's infuriating that this narrative Messi is some humble-master stuck. And before anyone attacks me, no, I'm not a Ronaldo fan.
Another great Rabona video I didn't know I needed.
Thanks, Adrian! 🙏👏
Now Cancelo is heading to Bayern. Pep knows how to beef with players
City are better without Cancelo
@@jonathangasana irrelevant to the overall theme of the video(not a city or bayern fan)
@@donthevalen if its irrelevant why did you bring cancelo in the first place?
You should make a video on messi's mentality over time
Are we falling again for the "Messi called Pep in the bus" myth?? It's clear that the issue with Zlatan and Pep was that he didn't want him at Barca in the first place. Pep asked for Villa and wanted Messi to play as a false 9 because it worked very well in the final part of the 08/09 season. Every time Zlatan talks about is time in Catalunya he never really talks about a supposed conflict with Messi, on the contrary, he seemingly only has positive things to say about him. We all know Zlatan, we know that he would talk a lot of sh*t about Messi if he had sabotaged Zlatan's passaged in Barcelona. Also it is well know that Pep doesn't like to work with people with big ego's, that's why he wanted to sell Etoo. Looking back at this Zlatan signing just shows how it was already common at the time for Barca to signing superstars that don't fit in the team for big money and then instantly regret it. Latest cases of this were Coutinho and Griezmann and we know how that ended up...
If Zlatan had played for Barca for a longer time the only thing that would have happened is that Zlatan would have contributed loads to Barca's success but still all the plaudits and Balondor would have gone to Messi.
Because Messi is a better player 🤷♂️
Ad deservedly so, Messi was the better player, why you acting as if he wasn?T
@@iraqisailor only if some people were less biased
@@iraqisailor Because Messi is a media darling.
@@1997lordofdoom Dude you a full time messi hater
Cancelo feels your pain, Zlatan. 😔
Bro stop I’m still coping through this one 😭😭😭
@@Biggie_ch33se man but from what's come out about cancelo then you gotta understand the reason, that being said, SHIT SUCKS 🥲🥲🥲🥲 that assist for haaland vs dortmund lives rent free in my head lmao
@@chinortega3 agreed man. It makes total sense, and Rico has earned a spot in the squad. He was one of my favorite players though and nostalgia got me by the throat 😭
@@Biggie_ch33se it be like that til the line goes flat 😅😅
@@chinortega3 tbf, Cancelo tried to act bigger than the club, look, man's a gem for us and is a key player, but after that Liverpool game, he's been have a poor run, even in the WC he was getting benched, he's been poor, shit like that happens, but it's up to Cancelo to work for his place, but he threated the club he will leave, City were like bet, go on then
Liked how you looked at both scenarios and presented them evenly. Zlatan was a bright talent but could not gel with the main men and therefore had to go and find success at another club. Much like playing in a rock band,you can have a talented guitarist join a band but cannot gel with the frontman,then he ends up leaving the band to find success with another project that gels well with his talents and persona.
Trading Eto'o for Ibra + 69 million was the best deal for Inter.
Back then 69 million for a single player was ALOT of money. Add to that Etoo's market value this was a ~100 mil transfer.
Inter were able to buy Sneijder, Milito, Motta and Lucio with that money and win the Champions League.
btw, 08/09 Etoo scored 30 goals in 36 games. Pretty much peak to me.
Perfect timiming as he shifetd cancelo out to byern
Guardiola does not like egos but has a weakeness with Messi. Guardiola aways said the Messi made him the coach he is today. So can you really argue with the results.
Because, Messi is one of the 5-10 ULTRA Talented players in the entire History of the game. He's just special.
I think we all know the answer to that, Pep can’t work with ego’s it’s why claiming he resembles Cruyff seems really dumb since Cruyff could work with ego’s.
Guardiola has more in line with Van Gaal than with Cruyff
As zlatan has said, pep is not a man. And I will go with what zlatan and countless other players that have been shafted by pep have said about him.
Cruyff both as a player & as a coach was one of the biggest egoistic person in the sport lol The main reason for his Barca team to suffer the worst beating in UCL final history was him clashing with Michael Laudrup
ignorance is bliss i guess
@@loneranger699 Exactly. Cruyff's probably the biggest "Individualist" in football history.
@@Honorbound43 there are about 4 players that have said negative things about Pep. Ribery, Yaya, Eto’o, and Zlatan. There are more players from each of the clubs he has managed that say positive things. So why listen to only the negatives from players with known ego problems that existed before and after Pep?
Funny...Ibra who's also known for his Massive ego has matured and taken a guardianship role at AC Milan and happy to play a squad role. CR7 should have done something similar at United instead of acting so immature.
😂😂😂😂
stellar video Adrian
The way I was so misinformed on Zlatan's Barcelona career before watching this. Very interesting video. Changes my perspective on alot of things
Always wondered what was the story behind his time at barca.... Great video!
Man what a good video
I'm confused with a fact check: I remember Zlatan saying Guardiola didn't ever say a word to him since day one. Another source says they spoke normally and it was at the halfway point that Guardiola gave him the silent treatment. In any case it's bizarre. Shame it didn't work out.
In the book of Zlatan he said after Messi asked for the false 9 position which made Zlatan play out of his position.
Zlatan confronted Pep in a conversation and after it started.
'When I entered the room Pep would just walk out'
AMAZING VIDEO ADRIAN MAN I LOVE THESE VIDEO ESSEE THINGS KEEP EM UP KING
Banger video bro
Pep can’t handle strong personalities : Eto, Zlatan, Cancelo etc
Lol so what
They destroy the team spirit which he needs to play the way he wants, the teams actually will perform better without them.
Who specifically is providing the "stories" about Messi? Second or third-hand stories about him being a "little tyrant" can't be taken too seriously, to be honest. On the other hand, Zlatan changes team every two or three years, mostly because of his well-known "eccentric" personality.
That's one of the downsides of Messi's quiet demeanor, his silence and humility is often taken as an excuse to try to walk all over him and spread hearsay about how he has an ego and he controlled the whole club when anyone who's seen him over the years knows how selfless he is. Suarez won the golden boot playing alongside him, how's that possible if Messi was such a control freak ?! And what player doesn't get angry or frustrated at times with his teammates ? We can't take rare events and then paint his whole personality that way completely dismissing his good behaviour but apparently there's no dearth of that petty stuff
Are yall tryna say messi doesn't have an ego and didn't express control, I mean tf are yall talking about
@@naazahs9045 nobody said messi is a dictator, but its obvious why hed want that. Its his team and hes the star player. If he wants to play centrally, he will do so or theres a chance he will leave.
I dont think its substantial but its just an ego that most ppl in his position would have. Every star player would do the same
@@naazahs9045 550 million
A hard piece to end on " ...could have been . . . "
Definitely, the growth mindset can't be cacooned to a fixed one. Increasing the odds to truly finding the right fit needs to be more understanding than what we might initially think.
Zlatan mentioned a point that not a lot of people realsed , said that after loss to inter he gave me a look like i was the only one who played bad which means that their relation really broke after inter loss as zlatan sadly played bad game againest inter
Ibra deserved better
Self-esteem and egoism are two different things. Words have meaning, and Messi crapped on Zlatan; the brat
did Zlatan not fit into the team? That ll be absolutely wrong to say, considering the numbers he generated, not just at barca, but at every club he has been in. He is an exceptional player. Did he not fit in with the coach, absolutely yes.
Eto'o for Zlatan was the Heist of The Century for Mourinho lmao
I think it makes a lot of sense for suarez and Messi to get along. Especially after his spell in liverpool. Im a lfc fan, and I watched Luis, and he was an alien for us. Issue is he was the guy to win games for us, turn games on its head. Almost a 1 man team. He had Gerrard, Coutinho, who supported him at times, but it felt like it was 90% him. Suarez was an animal. he's a winner, and nothing gets in the way of winning. The whole Ivanovic thing is a great example. He was a madman, but there was this game where he scored a goal, and the rest of the team, instead of celebrating with him, started jogging back to their half. The look on suarez face then was straight confusion. It was such a weird thing for me (i was like 11 so i didnt understand a lot of things then) but I'd like to think that humbled him a bit that he didn't exactly have the support he needed for his type of crazy drive to win. SO HIM BEING ABLE TO BR APART OF A TRIO LIKE MSN AND WIN? AND PLAY FUN FOOTBALL? I think it made sense. My memories of suarez are that he didn't care who was central. He just wanted to win.
we all rmb that goal
biggest shame of the last decade was Neymar and PSG ruining MSN. That tridente would've definitely stopped Madrid winning their 3-peat.
@@daarom3472 yeah I always said if we had Neymar 2019 we would have got the UCL, Messi entering another prime that year and Barca needed Neymar’s mentality in anfield. But that’s Neymar money hungry at that time and he still regrets the decision😢
1:37 this is exact reason I was skeptical about Haaland to Barça. Don't get it confused, Haaland doesn't fit at City either, but Pep is playing an adjusted format of the Barça system with City, and Haaland scores just the same way that Zlatan scored at Barça, they are great strikers who end up at the end of the play to finish, but they are for the most part NOT involved in the build up. Look at City recent UCL & English Cup games, WHERE IS HAALAND? However, he could be a factor vs Inter in UCL final.
Great collaboration,hopefully the guest comes back later on the show 🦾
The thing about Ibra is that he came into an already-established Barca side which was one of the best teams in history! His style did not match that of the team and he looked as if he was trying too hard!
they were worthy sacrifices let's just put it like this. Difficult decisions were made but right decisions
Exactly 💯 Messi made barca and pep great in football history ❤
Etoo won that trade
This whole messi is a dictator at barcelona and argentina thing is just a rumor fabricated by as and Marca, originating from the fact that rosell/barto (mostly barto) tried using Messi's name inorder to sign a high profile player. The Andre gomes and Antoine griezmann stories are great examples of the Spanish(castillian) media using barca's transfer tactics against them.
literally 😭😭😭😭😭 it is SO funny that the same people that accuse Messi of telling the Barca board who to buy and who to sell are the same people that accuse Messi of not being a vocal captain. On top of that, it was LITERALLY confirmed by the Spanish police that Barto was PAYING money to outlets to slander players and their families in the media, he got charged with that??? But nobody pays attention because they like the idea that Messi is secretly a tyrant in the dressing room.
Should've gone to Madrid
The hubris of a TH-camr who puts failure and Zlatan in the same sentence in his video's title image.
Eto'o last season in Barcelona : 40 goals, 7 assists in 57 matches. Also completed the Treble.
Ibra in Inter : 29 goals, 10 assists in 47 matches. One Scudetto in a Juve-less league.
How underrated are African players ?
@Zaka Toto: Yes, but why don’t you also compare Zlatan and Eto’o’s stats in Inter? There it was the other way around. But I agree with you, Eto’o was a great player!
Yeah and at inter Zlatan out performed eto in his last season...plus Eto didn't face problems like Zlatan did.... Inter had their perfect treble winning season.... They brought probably their best player and difference maker in that era, Sneijder.... State all the facts not just the ones that suit you
The CLASICO goal was a screamer 👏🏿
I personally didnt even know much about this but for me it seems like Zlatan was hella disrespected. Yeah Messi is obviously insane and probably the best player ever but at the end of the day, it’s a team not 11 v 1. They probably could have made it work but it seems like Guardiola wasn’t willing to do so
Very good video with intelligent commentary and analysis.
You can't replace Eto with anyone.
Watching this on Jan 31 to curb the deadline day stress😌
5:40 strikers get the limelight, they like that and they live in it. Guardiola doesn't like the bi-product of that, he thinks TEAM and if you are not playing in a way that says TEAM, you and he will have problems because you are focusing on just scoring for the fame and not playing in the way he instructs. That's Real Madrid formula, not Barcelona, well at least Pep's Barcelona. He and Lewy were fine because Lewy plays TEAM. So far seem ok with Haaland, Haaland see him as a super hero and respects Pep.
It wasn’t that Guardiola was betting on another horse (i.e. Messi). It’s as simple as Guardiola not liking players that cause trouble in the dressing room and among the group. You didn’t mentioned that when Guardiola was appointed coach of FC Barcelona in the summer of 2008, at his first press conference he said he didn’t want Eto’o, Ronaldinho, and Deco as part of his project and that they had to leave. He managed to send Ronaldinho to AC Milan and Deco to Chelsea, but he was unable to find a team for Eto’o and that’s why he stayed there for Guardiola’s first year. But as soon as he could, Guardiola kicked Eto’o out. Same as he just did by sending Cancelo to Bayern after an apparent disagreement during a training session. That’s the same reason why Guardiola left Barça. He was trying to do dressing room cleanup, which some reporting at the time indicated would have included big players like Pique, Dani Alves and Fabregas, but Laporta gone, he didn’t felt he would be backed by the new Barcelona president to make those changes.
@Wait, what? what does that have to do with him wanting a problem free dressing room?
It was just not a good transfer for Barca. Clearly, it was not possible to have Zlatan and Messi on the same team long-term. You could even say that Barcelona were greedy to want to have both Messi and Zlatan at the same time. That's like trying to put two engines inside of one car, it just doesn't work (maybe not the best metaphor but you get the point). The fact they even paid Inter sooooo much money on top of Eto'o said it all really. It was just incredibly short-sighted on their part.
Could easily work out
And the reason barcelona is struggling now , is because they relied so much on messi , it got worse every year , especially after xavi and Iniesta were gone . And after messi left , they had nothing left
Actually he did very well on the pitch. He had problems off the pitch which affected his playtime.
The two suns in one club will never fit. Specialy when you are great footballer.
to this day players aren't allow to come at training with Ferraris so there's nothing personal there.
I actually enjoyed zlatan at barca
10:18 You used the fact that they spoke really well about Zlatan to say that the problem wasn't between them, but isn't it contradictory to then conclude that the problem was between Zlatan and Messi (and Pep), considering how Zlatan has endlessly had nothing but praises and good things whenever he talk about Messi?
You see, this is the thing I don't like about the football community (or literally every single community), all of the "locker room stories" are just rumors with no confirmation, yet people bring it up everywhere and talk about it like it's a matter of fact
You just said what's in my mind in that 2nd paragraph
Maybe I wasn't clear, so that's my bad and I'll clear this up for you. Issues started because Messi isn't exactly easy to play with as Alex said, and demands to play where he's best, which was the same area as Ibra. Ibra highlighted this and I used two quotes from him: "Messi started to talk...", "He didn't like that I was scoring more goals" etc.
However, he didn't hold that against Messi, because he knows that falls upon the coach to make the call in the end. So while Messi's actions influenced Guardiola, it's Guardiola who ultimately makes the call, and ended up stonewalling him and freezing him out, as Ibra said.
Hope that helps! Apologies for the lack of clarity.
@@RabonaTV These quotes are from Ibra's book... and you do know that he has admitted that he made up a bunch of stuff in it, right? Ibra is a self-confessed unreliable narrator, it's part of his image.
To understand this debacle understand hubris and ego, and their role in shaping protagonism versus antagonism. Barça are an academy setup for a good reason, no shame on failing to adjust on any part, player nor team and staff (💁🏻♂️ am Culè) but I really wish their relationship hadn’t collapsed… 🖖🏼
It's much like the various Basque and Navarrese clubs which have a heavy develop within the academy for different reasons. Osasuna makes most of their money selling guys, mostly to Bilbao for profit.
@@Eibarwoman it’s an evolving ecosystem, I’m not Catalan but have supported Barça since Romário’s playing days when I first discovered soccer as many Brazilians did through him and many more, but the same is evident in all major leagues and minors emulate what? The majors. Football has become a calamity and it’s been unraveling for decades now. I just hope it is all reborn with sustainability in mind for perpetuity, clubs are as much their communities as their communities are represented through the many clubs and athletic organizations. Frankly, a one world Olympic regime to organize sports for ruling and administration models would better serve not only football but all facets of athletics. Maybe in that world, Ibra can live his Barcelona dreams and we win the Champions League clean instead of refereeing errors costing us the return leg in Catalunya to Internazionale… but I digress 🥲
basically, that one super-idealistic, genius lecturer, vs one ex-bully kid that is a prodigy in his own certain ways. Doomed to be uncooperative and full of clashes.
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Pep may have made one of the best teams ever , and ibra may be an egomaniac, but its clear that he has a point. Barça had just won Ucl in 2006, before pep arrive, with Dinho being the best footballer in the world then, and Eto being a killer as well, and pep showed no respect for either of them. Im sure that team, with Dinho, eto or ibra, and mess in his prime would still be winning everything with or without pep
It makes sense now I think about it. I remember a story of Alan Shearer and Chris Sutton not actually getting alone. Apparently Shearer never liked him and saw him as a threat. I also think if the shoe was on the other foot Ibrahimovic would have acted the same as Messi if not worse. Not to judge but Adriano at Inter Milan was displaced by Ibrahimovic.
Please educate yourself about Zlatan and Adriano …
@@CoachNiklas @Niklas Daver I know how Adriano father died and he had a drinking problem that stem from there, but I just say this because when did Ibra have a striking partner? He was arrogant all the way through his career. Niklas maybe your right but just speculated. The question i ask is your can you have 2 Alfa's in a Lion Pride?
He played with Cavani for years. He’s had quite a few striker partners but Cavani is a good example of two players with MASSIVE egos who got along very well on the pitch
The reason why Zlatan and Guardiola failed to click because Guardiola built a Barcelona side around Messi and plus Messi plays in a false nine and Zlatan cannot play on the wings unlike Villa that joined one year later.
Mahn..this is what absolute fact check
So they chose Messi over him basically so he salty
It's not just about Zlatan being salty or anything, it's just he didn't fit to Pep's tactics and system. If you buy Diesel fuel for a moped it's simply just not gonna work even though it's also a type of fuel
Very true its almost how neymar also didnt succeed in his first barcelona season
I'm a Guardiola fan-boy man. The video was nice, informative even but that part about Guardiola having a huge ego comparable to Zlatan, CR7 etc kept me from leaving a like. I disagree but I love the video and respect your work and opinions.
Zlatan is constantly talked about by former coaches and teammates as an incredibly selfless guy and that the ego is just for show (mostly)
Its absolutely insane that barca fans have been able to spin the narrative of Messi being humble for so long. Dude has absolutely zero humility and might be the biggest ego in world football
Yeah because Messi' teammates, including ZLATAN HIMSELF, aren't the ones saying that he's humble. Wtf are you talking about.
The habitat was to small.. so the lion felt caged in and escaped..
Pep Guardiola was absolutely right. Football is a team of 11 and the coach is the leader. Players that don't listen to the coach don't have a place in the team no matter how important those players are. Even Messi should have been kicked out from Barca already in 2019 due to his egocentric conduct against the managers that greatly helped in Barcelona's decay those years. No player is above the team and above the coach not even the best in history like Messi.
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Alex, haz estos videos en español.
Nobody can blame Zlatan for his ego,because it was decided from above...if you open his natural Vedic chart,you will see that in his dna code,a configuration of personality he has saturn (mastery) together with the sun (ego and father) and jupiter right there (prosperity point) so if you want the best out of him you will not treat him as the second one or winger
I've said it before and I'll say it again, i love this video format
Pep is never interested in making a 'Super Team' with a ton of star names.. if you don't want to fit into the system he decides to go with then you can leave. It doesnt matter how big the name.
You wrote this script terribly Rabona, really poor.
Pep just picks and chooses the players he likes and don’t likes same thing with yaya , what a character .
I came here as fast as I could. What's the plan?
Zlatan didn’t failed, it was Guardiola who couldn’t stop sucking it to Messi
He ruined many great Superstars
Zlatan, Villa, Henry, Etc
After seeing this video I’m Kinda of disappointed that Messi couldn’t be GOAT he should be because he couldn’t adapt and made others adapt to him. A great player sets the mood and leads unfortunately I think Barcelona made the wrong decision
They made the absolutely correct decision in off-loading Ibra. They replaced him with David Villa, the player they wanted and needed all along, and created literally the best club side in history that dominated everyone in 10-11. Pep's and Messi's results speak for themselves, that's why no Barca fan takes Ibra's side on this.
Ibra is a Mourinho player not a Pep player imo
It is very much clear that Messi ran Barca all those years and everything was made to cater for him. The reason MSN was successful was that, even though Suarez was the decider for Barcelona and the main reason for their success, he could not take anything publicly in terms of fame and fortune given that he was on probation and the only threat to that, was Neymar, who unsurprisingly left Barcelona. Griezmann had the same issues, if Messi does not like you the team will cater to that.
It is similar for Argentina. The difference later in his career is that the current crop worship him and are easier to manipulate and even if someone like a Di Maria is better than him in the NT, he is not big enough to surpass him in the public eye.
Zlatan's time though, it was a failure on the fact that it never blossomed to what it needed to be. It was based on various factors but Zlatan's ability is certainly not one. So it cannot be used a detriment on his career.
DiMaria didnt even played in most of the world cup games,
@@rmv9194 that is a lie and you know it. In 2010 he played in 5/5, in 2014 it was 5/7, he missed the last two and Argentina failed to threaten dangerously and would have lost the semi without Mascherano and Romero. In 2018 he played 3/4, the one he missed was the battering by Croatia. In 2022 he was the teams best player again. He played in 5/7, Argentina were at the most dangerous when he was on the pitch even in his cameo vs the Netherlands.
18/23 sounds like most games to me.
Why are you guys trying to make him out to be a dictator. He asked to play in his position as it’s rightfully his. Zlatan came into a ucl winning Barcelona and a prime Messi you think he would give up his spot for some dude. Pathetic how you guys are writing essays about some bs. Zlatan thinks highly of messi and called him the goat and protected messi. Stop spewing nonsense about some catering. Of course they are going to cater to the goat you thought he was a random player
@@Dranzer21 because he is. Messi is very conscious of the power he has and used it when he can at Barca. He very much well knows that Barca will cater to his every need because of the money he brings in. When they were trash he left them behind to join a bigger team so that he can win the Champions League but Bartomeu had other ideas. Messi has an obsession of control, both on and off the pitch.
He is an exceptional player but a lot of the things he has done have been brushed aside to paint this idea that he is this humble team player who cannot put a foot wrong which is far from the truth.
@@Dranzer21 Zlatan's main problem was Pep and Zlatan is also in the know about who Messi is. If he were to ever attack Messi he'd be lambasted all over the place.
Anyone who has been following the game since '05 knows that he is the golden boy of the game, which is why we are told to worship him. If you don't and we expose things he does, you will be labelled hater.
Hoping the next few videos will be how Chelsea can spend 500 mill plus in 1 season and why Liverpool are failing... Both subjects need your unique take on it 👍
First one is easy enough. The transfer fee is written off in the books over the course of the players contract with the club. This is common practice in European football and bookkeeping in any major industry upon purchasing fixed assets (which players are classified as, immaterial sporting fixed assets to be precise). For instance Chelsea buys a player for 100 million euros and gives him a 5 yr contract. As far as the books and FFP are concerned that transfer costs Chelsea 20 million per year for the coming 5 years regardless of the payment structure Chelsea agrees with the selling club.
Remember the Pjanic - Arthur swap between Juve and Barca? That was a bookkeeping loophole making full use of this method. Instead of a straight swap they bought the players of one another for massive fees knowing that they could write the full received fee as profit in the books for that season while only having to put a fifth of the outgoing fee in the books that year, thus fixing their negative balance for that year and complying with FFP. They basically sent each other 70 million euros so they could put 70 million profit in their books and only 14 million in expense that year for that season, a profit of 56 million while in fact there wasn't a profit.
So Chelsea is just dishing out incredibly long contracts to their signings to spread out the cost towards their FFP regulations. This is something that any club can do but chooses not to. Most clubs feel it is too great a risk. For one if a player fails then you're stuck with him for way longer. Another reason is room to manoeuvre on the transfermarket. Simply put: they just spent 600 million euro's in one go and spread the writing off out over a 7-8 year period instead of the usual 4-5 years. This means that their signing spree now costs them about 75 million / year for the next 8 years limiting their spending power in that period.
@@yarriddevogelaere2005 thanks for explanation!!😁👍
@@SunriseRss no problem
Y isn’t anyone talking about David Villas accomplishments?
Messi has always seemed a slimy individual to me, I never bought into his humble Guy persona... How many great talents were sacrificed to make him the so called GOAT?
That Eto’o and Zlatan swap was just terrible from Pep
You can’t have 2 leaders in 1 pack
I think Zlatan was not quick enough for Barca and Messi could fit a striker in front of him without problems if the striker could keep the ball going at the same speed. Suarez, Villa, Benzema, maybe Lewandowsky were the only strikers who had that ability, and now we see Alvarez doing the same.
But Zlatan slowed the game, made poor decisions, then missed big chances because of the pressure and that made the whole situation problematic for the team.
I don't think this could be fixed because at his height is easy to understand why Iniesta or Messi made him look slow. I think that the best striker for Barcelona would have been Benzema, but the board failed to see that. While Barca was eliminated by Inter in UCL, and Zlatan didn't helped a lot, Barcelona was eliminated because of the catastrophic decisions made by the referees who were probably bribed by Inter. So some of the failures have nothing to do with Zlatan or Guardiola.
So why Benzema was the best option? Because Benzema was more mobile, has incredible ball control and is a complete striker. Villa was actually great and I feel he wasn't a lesser star, just look at the stats before Barcelona, but he lacked strong muscles to dominate defenses.
So actually Barcelona just made the decision that was needed, bringing a striker who can play their football, but Benzema was not available anymore. Once they had that striker, Messi was happy to play on the right wing and in center, because the play was working regardless of his position. So don't blame Messi for Zlatan being a striker who was not very fit to play in a team that could hold the ball in front of the box for ages. That meant Zlatan had less space to work in and that equals mistakes that give the ball away or ruins the chance of scoring. Not every player can play along side Messi or Iniesta in front of the box. And for sure I don't consider Zlatan a player who is not talented, but the speed of Barcelona was insane.
One thing we have to acknowledge is the way in which Eto'o boasted about himself. "I was the reason not Messi..." precisely shows why Guardiola let him go. He was just way too full of himself.
Well pep guardiola know the greatest in the world who make him great too because Messi is lonely top level then zalatan and Etos combine ... so its great decision of pep ❤❤❤❤💜💜💜💜🔟🐐🇦🇷
I’m not fan of Zlatan. 😒 He attracts lightning ⚡️ strikes. 😮💨