Timestamps 2:44 -Review game 14 of World Championship 12:35 -Danya’s commentary influences 14:38 -Behind the scenes of Danya’s commentary 17:23 -Overview of World Championship match 21:17 -Ding’s struggles 26:49 -Looking ahead to the next World Championship 28:47 -Emotions during the match 31:13 -Thoughts on Gukesh 34:13 -Takes on Magnus’ Take Take Take Recaps 42:22 -Changes to WC format 48:48 -Openings of WC 53:18 -What the audience can learn from the match 59:07 -Final thoughts on WC/Danya’s embarrassing moment in commentary career 1:06:08 -Listener questions, Danya’s future chessable course 1:10:35 -2025 tournament plans 1:12:13 -Kramnik accusations/thoughts on upcoming World Rapid and Blitz 1:19:26 -Favorite memories being a part of Charlotte Chess Center 1:21:04 -What happened to NY Times chess column
Danya himself suggested the move Rf2 on the live commentary a few seconds before it actually happened. And he said white would go Rb1 check as a response. I think the blunder was understandable.
Yeah, but Danya and Leko just didn't have enough time to analyse that properly. We all know about Leko's "hang on a minute" when he realises the refutation.
@@Ps_10_10it's still commonly referred to as the 'North East'. Thanks for the etymology lesson though. You must be the kind of guy that goes around correcting people's spellings with an aestrix in YT comments
Danya has a deep knowledge of chess combined with a good command over the english language topped up with a warm hearted personality makes a great package. Danya is the 'voice of chess'
@28:45 I felt emotional watching the World Championship for the first time. The Indian crowd cheering, Gukesh hugging his dad, the fact an 18 year old has that level of support... it's all inspirational.
Wonderful discussion and commentary........I agree that Ding subconsciously blundered the rook move and didn't want to undergo the pressure of being champion again.
I don't know if Ding subconsciously wanted to lose at that point but I think he's probably relieved that the pressure is gone now. He showed that he's still a great player by winning two games and defending very well in some of the other games and that's probably the best outcome for him.
Thanks for having Danya! His work for the game and his contributions from player to student are destined to reach the upper lexicon of our curriculum. He is one of the "good guys" in the game and in a better adjudicated rating system in ALL forms of the game, he is top notch in my book! Cheers
A mixed format (classical, rapid, blitz) world championship in chess is perhaps analogous to the decathlon in athletics. The decathlon world champion is perhaps recognised as the world's best all-round athlete, but fans are more interested in the individual 100m, 1500m, high jump championships and know the contenders in those events better than the contenders in the decathlon.
Thanks for the content Ben and Danya! About the match: to me this feels just like the FIDE world champions from the past. No one on earth actually thinks either of these players is the world's best player. Only after Carlsen has really quit, we can enjoy real world championships again.
Wonderful insights about commentary from Dania. Former Australian cricket player, turned a legendary commentator, Richie Benaud, had the same philosophy, let the big moments speak for themselves, if there is nothing that a commentator can say that can add value, just stay silent.
10:22 "How often in general is white's bishop on the square a8?" - not white, but Ding famously retreated his black bishop to a8 in Carlsen vs Ding Liren 2019 Sinquefield Cup, blitz tiebreak. Perhaps Ding had an affinity for that square, so placed his bishop there instead of c6? Was it Danya who was telling stories about another GM talking about having to play simuls at the board? Ding was doing that for probably that 2019 blitz game, the Olympiad games (including against Le Quang Liem), as well as all his games this year *and* the earlier games in the match against Gukesh where Gukesh opted to grind from not great positions. Maybe Ding's a4 and pawn sac was an internalising of all of that, thinking he could manage the same thing that Gukesh had done earlier in the match. 5:29 Observing Ding's chances slip 6:14 Commentating with Leko 17:33 Predictions 50:20 Outspacebar the spacebar masters 52:40 Scandi on blast 1:04:40 Anish catching strays
Daniel Naroditsky is most accomplished commentator in this age. He delves deep into human aspects. Others mostly put audio into lines provided by stockfish
Please don't take this the wrong way, but i saw the thumbnails and thought it was one of those clip channels that repost content I assume thats not the kind image you want to project while doing such good work
I am not offended, and appreciate the feedback but I am not sure what you are referring to either. What made you think that or what would I need to change to make the thumbnail less misleading?
@@perpetualchesspodcast9143 Lemme see if I can help. The issue is that while the thumbnail is clickbaity (in a positive sense, i.e normally it would pull in traffic), in the current landscape, it overlaps with the kind of thumbnail that any number of channels use when showing clips of the event. In such a case, you might benefit with showing that it's a podcast, something that shows the face of the guest. I' m sure Joe Roegan etc may help.
@@perpetualchesspodcast9143 To be honest, I thought the same. For suggestion, I'll say that check other podcast channels and choose what you like thr best. I think if it says Podcast in bold then that would be nice bcz brain won't be unsure if it's clips compilation.(Check Chess with Mustreader channel thumnails.. It says Podcast in bold always)
I've always found Perpetual Chess Podcast titles and thumbnails to be quite understated. If anything, they could be more flashy. But it's all fine as it is in my view.
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history. His historic milestones include: * Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion. * Winning the Chess Olympiad. * Dominating the Candidates Tournament. * Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history. * Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever. * Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794). All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.
Nope In fact if you see the live stream, before ding made that move, Dani was talking about gukesh s responses if that move appears. Dani said gukesh should NOT trade rooks in this position. Then when the ding move happened, the eval bar went south. Then Dani immediately said the blunder and the next moves. Did he have an ebony l engine to help in analysis? No idea, but it is true that it is the eval bar that led him to look for why it was a blunder.
Naroditsky is together with Leko and Hess the best chess commentators in the world. It’s an amazing team with high quality and humour and I always look forward to listening to this guys 👍
Absolutely. The time scrambles are key to making mistakes more possible, otherwise we will not get as many decisive games. And that will be bad for everyone, imo.
That was a great comment: some frontiers have closed while others have opened... you can't play the Latvian gambit but you absolutely can play the French. Add the Schliemann gambit to that.
Personally, I think all is needed is a move clock like what baseball just implemented. In baseball games were trending towards being longer and longer so they added a pitchers clock. The pit her needs to pitch the ball in so many seconds or there is a delay of game violation. In classical chess you could add a clock where a person needs to move in 5 minutes or your opponent now gets 5 minutes to make a move. So this will encourage more moves but also allow you to pass on a move. This will add depth in strategy. There still might not be a move for 45 minutes but there will be added tension of giving up your time to pressure your opponent too e in a bad position but in five minutes the pressure returns and as time goes down now theres the other time controls that still may cause someone in a better position to lose on time if they aren't actually moving.
I wonder whether 22 year old Magnus would have agreed to changing the format of the WC. I can imagine that as an up and coming player you want to have the same title Fischer and Kasparov had.
As someone who picked up chess during the candidates tournament I couldn't believe during the broadcast how literally everyone was calling it a draw when, to me, the position felt unclear and ding had 9 min vs 69 (nice)... Didn't think it will happen but I felt like it was still a game
I think they meant for a super GM this was relatively easy walk in the park. Magnus did say that rook and Bishop end game can get tricky even though top players should be able to hold. I think ding was not in his mentally best, gukesh knew this and had ensured that he would tirelessly go for win, and this puts pressure on ding who just wants a draw. So I think gukesh strategy paid off.
@@woosterjeeves yes 100%. I was convinced that with even time it would be a draw but everytime they would say 'getting ready for tomorrow ' or some other shit like that I kept looking at the clock
Quite a number of commentators weren't actually paying any attention to Ding's body language and time usage. Anyone who did could tell that Ding was getting more and more uncomfortable. FIDE had a dedicated stream of just the players and the board with no eval bar, so it's odd to me why some commentators didn't appear to bother having that stream on in their own monitors so that they could see what the players were thinking and feeling.
One practical issue with classical is that several recent classical World Championships have been decided by a rapid play off. Magnus v Karjakin. Magnus v Fabi. Nepo v Ding. It seems strange to call /think of the winners of these matches as classical world champions.
Dreaming is one thing . But how much u work for your dream is another. For gukesh everything went his way. 1. God's grace 2. His determined effort 3. His talent 4. Fighting spirit 5. Blessings and prayers of so many people behind him😂😂😂
I think most of those attributes can be applied to Ding as well. He simply blundered a couple times. The match was fairly even so I don't get this almost religious fervor over Gukesh winning. Maybe in his defense if he wins easily it would be more appropriate. Don't get me wrong I wasn't supporting either player but I did enjoy the chess.
@mikeyoung9810 believe me bro . I am a talented indian professional . I have seen my fellow professionals achieved bigger than me in my life . Sometimes no matter how much effort u put in things don't go your way . Look at Fabiana caruana nepo hikaru. Such strong players, but how did gukesh overcame these players at candidates .it's a miracle of sorts .😂
@@mikeyoung9810 That's true it can definitely also be applied to Ding and his journey to becoming wc and putting up a great fight in this match despite his form, lack of prep, mental and physical struggles. However, in the game that mattered most not to lose, gukesh won - with the black pieces to top it off. One can argue that BECAUSE it was close, it feels even more like destiny because it could have gone either way but it went to Gukesh. That's what makes it feel like god played a role towards his success. There were so many similar moments in his journey to becoming wc that could have gone either way, where not everything was in his own control but it all worked out. Gukesh himself understands that and that's why he is so thankful to god. Strong chess players all share in their drive, hard work and desire to win but the journey to becoming wc requires miracles to happen at the right time which shows the will of god.
Perhaps Danya spotted it before Hikaru but I spotted the idea as soon as Ding put the bishop on a8. It is an 1800 level tactic, if you can even call it a tactic. The only consideration is whether the K and P ending was won and with the pawn on g3, anyone who has studied even the most basic endings knows that is easily a win.
Classical chess >> speed chess. Sorry. I just can't get into the latter. It feels volatile, is less amenable to memorable games and in blitz & faster formats all I can do is look at the eval bar dancing and engagement is driven only through drama, time scrambles & stupid blunders. Provided the stakes are there, classical chess is the perfect balance of peak human quality, excitement, drama and the human element. Can any speed chess match ever replicate the epicness of that tal botvinnik match. The inherent drawish nature of high level chess is a different issue. The solution to that is not speed chess. The solution is for a good variant to evolve and succeed chess. However, the classical format should stay. Shogi has less than 2% draw rates at master level play, and their prestigious matches in Japan are almost always decided within 7 games (4 wins required to win).
I agree but we live in an age where everything has to be fast. I expect a time is coming where all chess will be some variant of fast chess and most GM's will be under the age of 25. Tactics will take a back seat to positional styles and winning quickly with exciting mates will become the norm.
I'm happy with keeping the current status quo. I can't watch Classical chess live, but it's enjoyable to watch in the recaps. My contention is more that I'd like to see even more rapid and blitz tournaments, because I simply enjoy watching those more.
We all have different tastes. I use to think 1 minute chess was meaningless and flabbergastingly impossible, and now I'm addicted to it. I still love classical, though, and killed myself watching the WCC in the middle of the night.
To my uneducated and incompetent mind, what happened is like the statistic that most car accidents happen within 25 miles of home. You know the streets, where every red light and easy right turn is, and so you subconsciously relax 10% of your attention. Ding must have felt the same way, that the draw was in the bag, he was in a hurry to get there, and he was already thinking about the next day's games. And what do you know -- the kid ran out from behind a parked car to get his nerf ball, you swerved to avoid him, and hit the lamp post on the other side.
The reason most car accidents happen within 25 miles of home is that 99% of people driving are within 25 miles of their home. That is the dumbest statistic anyone uses for anything.
The World championship is a marathon. Magnus no longer has the stamina to run a marathon. He is great at the 100m sprints, maybe two tournaments a year, max.
Ridiculous to want to add blitz and rapid to the classical Championship. If he wants to stop playing classical, fine. But dont trash it on your way out. Aloso make it special likle it used to be: Have it every three years. Not this dumb new stuff where it's like a yearly superbowl.
I got the impression that Hikaru, Nepo, Magnus, Levy in that order weren't happy to have an Indian winning the world championship. I wouldnt bother about Kramnik, he is generally not happy now a days but for various non reasons
Some of these Western chess players seem too arrogant. I huess it is the male culture there. The way they talk about Gukesh reveals that. Artogant and envious. Competitive in an unhealthy way.
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history. His historic milestones include: * Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion. * Winning the Chess Olympiad. * Won the Candidates Tournament. * Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history. * Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever. * Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794). All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.
You switched his Olympiad performance with candidates, he dominated Olympiad but not he candidates, he played really really well but i wouldn't say he was dominant.
Few care about second in this world, and almost 2800 is a miss. There's little doubt that he'll hit 2800 in the near future though. There are two players I favor over him, but if neither is his challenger next cycle then I hope he defends his title and cements his status as world champion.
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history. His historic milestones include: * Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion. * Winning the Chess Olympiad. * Dominating the Candidates Tournament. * Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history. * Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever. * Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794). All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.
Timestamps
2:44 -Review game 14 of World Championship
12:35 -Danya’s commentary influences
14:38 -Behind the scenes of Danya’s commentary
17:23 -Overview of World Championship match
21:17 -Ding’s struggles
26:49 -Looking ahead to the next World Championship
28:47 -Emotions during the match
31:13 -Thoughts on Gukesh
34:13 -Takes on Magnus’ Take Take Take Recaps
42:22 -Changes to WC format
48:48 -Openings of WC
53:18 -What the audience can learn from the match
59:07 -Final thoughts on WC/Danya’s embarrassing moment in commentary career
1:06:08 -Listener questions, Danya’s future chessable course
1:10:35 -2025 tournament plans
1:12:13 -Kramnik accusations/thoughts on upcoming World Rapid and Blitz
1:19:26 -Favorite memories being a part of Charlotte Chess Center
1:21:04 -What happened to NY Times chess column
Legend
Thank you Camillia! Did you enjoy the match?
@@perpetualchesspodcast9143 no worries! Absolutely! I wouldn’t have minded if they kept playing for the next couple of months or so 😆
@@camilliagomez4443 I am with you, definitely felt some withdrawal waking up on Friday!
Danya himself suggested the move Rf2 on the live commentary a few seconds before it actually happened. And he said white would go Rb1 check as a response. I think the blunder was understandable.
He actually did?!!
Yeah, but Danya and Leko just didn't have enough time to analyse that properly. We all know about Leko's "hang on a minute" when he realises the refutation.
LOVE YOU DANYA from Northeast India..😊 You are amazing man, great teacher and advocate of Chess ♟️🎉
far east of india??? british used to call it north east bcoz its north east of bengal not entire india ...
@@Ps_10_10it is still commonly referred to as the north east. Gtfo with your etymology lesson
Yay. Another fellow north eastern into chess
@@Ps_10_10it's still commonly referred to as the 'North East'. Thanks for the etymology lesson though. You must be the kind of guy that goes around correcting people's spellings with an aestrix in YT comments
@@ledheadzeppelin *asterisk lmao
Dania is always a breath of fresh air
Danya has a deep knowledge of chess combined with a good command over the english language topped up with a warm hearted personality makes a great package. Danya is the 'voice of chess'
@28:45 I felt emotional watching the World Championship for the first time. The Indian crowd cheering, Gukesh hugging his dad, the fact an 18 year old has that level of support... it's all inspirational.
How are there only 14.7K subs? This is must-see for any chess aficionado.
Danya had the perfect instant reaction to Ding's blunder.
Loved Daniel and Peter's commentary throughout the match.
Always breathe relief when I see either in the booth
Wonderful discussion and commentary........I agree that Ding subconsciously blundered the rook move and didn't want to undergo the pressure of being champion again.
Yea it can be seen that he had the resolution to fight and show his level of play but he was not determined to win
Agree. Hikaru himself said it loud and clear during his live cover of the last match.
I don't know if Ding subconsciously wanted to lose at that point but I think he's probably relieved that the pressure is gone now. He showed that he's still a great player by winning two games and defending very well in some of the other games and that's probably the best outcome for him.
Thanks for having Danya! His work for the game and his contributions from player to student are destined to reach the upper lexicon of our curriculum. He is one of the "good guys" in the game and in a better adjudicated rating system in ALL forms of the game, he is top notch in my book! Cheers
Thank you Danya for everything you do for the chess community, very much appreciated 🙏🏻
All in all - this was a pretty great World Chess Championship match.
Daniel is great commentator
A mixed format (classical, rapid, blitz) world championship in chess is perhaps analogous to the decathlon in athletics. The decathlon world champion is perhaps recognised as the world's best all-round athlete, but fans are more interested in the individual 100m, 1500m, high jump championships and know the contenders in those events better than the contenders in the decathlon.
Thanks for the content Ben and Danya!
About the match: to me this feels just like the FIDE world champions from the past. No one on earth actually thinks either of these players is the world's best player. Only after Carlsen has really quit, we can enjoy real world championships again.
Amazing discussion. Thank you so much for this podcast.
Great guest Great pod!
Wonderful insights about commentary from Dania. Former Australian cricket player, turned a legendary commentator, Richie Benaud, had the same philosophy, let the big moments speak for themselves, if there is nothing that a commentator can say that can add value, just stay silent.
Great to hear Danya speak so much common sense!
*Thanks Dany-Said where credit is due...to pressure a world champion to do a bluder even if it's basic is CHamps move* !
10:22 "How often in general is white's bishop on the square a8?" - not white, but Ding famously retreated his black bishop to a8 in Carlsen vs Ding Liren 2019 Sinquefield Cup, blitz tiebreak. Perhaps Ding had an affinity for that square, so placed his bishop there instead of c6? Was it Danya who was telling stories about another GM talking about having to play simuls at the board? Ding was doing that for probably that 2019 blitz game, the Olympiad games (including against Le Quang Liem), as well as all his games this year *and* the earlier games in the match against Gukesh where Gukesh opted to grind from not great positions. Maybe Ding's a4 and pawn sac was an internalising of all of that, thinking he could manage the same thing that Gukesh had done earlier in the match.
5:29 Observing Ding's chances slip
6:14 Commentating with Leko
17:33 Predictions
50:20 Outspacebar the spacebar masters
52:40 Scandi on blast
1:04:40 Anish catching strays
Daniel Naroditsky is most accomplished commentator in this age. He delves deep into human aspects. Others mostly put audio into lines provided by stockfish
Danya and Leko is the greatest combo of all time
Love Danya's commentary ❤🎉
Please don't take this the wrong way, but i saw the thumbnails and thought it was one of those clip channels that repost content
I assume thats not the kind image you want to project while doing such good work
I am not offended, and appreciate the feedback but I am not sure what you are referring to either. What made you think that or what would I need to change to make the thumbnail less misleading?
@perpetualchesspodcast9143 i was trying to say that the thumbnails can be better, you can take examples from videos that do well on youtube
@@perpetualchesspodcast9143 Lemme see if I can help. The issue is that while the thumbnail is clickbaity (in a positive sense, i.e normally it would pull in traffic), in the current landscape, it overlaps with the kind of thumbnail that any number of channels use when showing clips of the event.
In such a case, you might benefit with showing that it's a podcast, something that shows the face of the guest. I'
m sure Joe Roegan etc may help.
@@perpetualchesspodcast9143 To be honest, I thought the same. For suggestion, I'll say that check other podcast channels and choose what you like thr best. I think if it says Podcast in bold then that would be nice bcz brain won't be unsure if it's clips compilation.(Check Chess with Mustreader channel thumnails.. It says Podcast in bold always)
I've always found Perpetual Chess Podcast titles and thumbnails to be quite understated. If anything, they could be more flashy. But it's all fine as it is in my view.
World Class Commentary!
All support to you Danyaa🎉 You can win 🎉
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history.
His historic milestones include:
* Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion.
* Winning the Chess Olympiad.
* Dominating the Candidates Tournament.
* Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history.
* Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever.
* Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794).
All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.
Dania was really quick at spotting the blunder when it came.
I mean if you have like 4 engines running simultaneously on screens then...
@@justanotherguy625he's a blitz legend
no, he didn't
Nope
In fact if you see the live stream, before ding made that move, Dani was talking about gukesh s responses if that move appears. Dani said gukesh should NOT trade rooks in this position. Then when the ding move happened, the eval bar went south. Then Dani immediately said the blunder and the next moves. Did he have an ebony l engine to help in analysis? No idea, but it is true that it is the eval bar that led him to look for why it was a blunder.
Everyone can. It's not a big deal
Naroditsky is together with Leko and Hess the best chess commentators in the world. It’s an amazing team with high quality and humour and I always look forward to listening to this guys 👍
Awesome! Happy to have found this page
Amazing podcast, thanks a lot!
Great stuff Ben, thank you. Thumbnail looks fantastic btw 😂
Lol. I am a thumbnail patzer for sure.
Gosh, it's such a beautiful video, but there are so few likes and views... I just couldn't stop watching..wish I'd like it 1000 times❤
Absolutely. The time scrambles are key to making mistakes more possible, otherwise we will not get as many decisive games. And that will be bad for everyone, imo.
Danya had the best instant reaction to Rf2. Instant follow
That was a great comment: some frontiers have closed while others have opened... you can't play the Latvian gambit but you absolutely can play the French.
Add the Schliemann gambit to that.
Danya,on you tube you calculated 19 moves in advance,mind blowing 😮
Personally, I think all is needed is a move clock like what baseball just implemented. In baseball games were trending towards being longer and longer so they added a pitchers clock. The pit her needs to pitch the ball in so many seconds or there is a delay of game violation.
In classical chess you could add a clock where a person needs to move in 5 minutes or your opponent now gets 5 minutes to make a move. So this will encourage more moves but also allow you to pass on a move. This will add depth in strategy. There still might not be a move for 45 minutes but there will be added tension of giving up your time to pressure your opponent too e in a bad position but in five minutes the pressure returns and as time goes down now theres the other time controls that still may cause someone in a better position to lose on time if they aren't actually moving.
It wouldn't be classical chess anymore but another variant of fast chess.
I wonder whether 22 year old Magnus would have agreed to changing the format of the WC. I can imagine that as an up and coming player you want to have the same title Fischer and Kasparov had.
Can't see Gukesh even tie the GOATS laces,we all know how strong Magnus is
Nepo saw this move in live and said "It's a good move". Until he saw the eval bar.
Where did he stream? Was it in Russian
@@user-dw4dq1if1m In Russian on Levitov channel.
@@user-dw4dq1if1m In Russian on Levitov channel.
As someone who picked up chess during the candidates tournament I couldn't believe during the broadcast how literally everyone was calling it a draw when, to me, the position felt unclear and ding had 9 min vs 69 (nice)... Didn't think it will happen but I felt like it was still a game
Hikaru was also saying the was not over so don't worry
I think they meant for a super GM this was relatively easy walk in the park. Magnus did say that rook and Bishop end game can get tricky even though top players should be able to hold. I think ding was not in his mentally best, gukesh knew this and had ensured that he would tirelessly go for win, and this puts pressure on ding who just wants a draw. So I think gukesh strategy paid off.
@@woosterjeeves yes 100%. I was convinced that with even time it would be a draw but everytime they would say 'getting ready for tomorrow ' or some other shit like that I kept looking at the clock
Quite a number of commentators weren't actually paying any attention to Ding's body language and time usage. Anyone who did could tell that Ding was getting more and more uncomfortable. FIDE had a dedicated stream of just the players and the board with no eval bar, so it's odd to me why some commentators didn't appear to bother having that stream on in their own monitors so that they could see what the players were thinking and feeling.
@@lollycopterindeed. Anyone notice ding eyes always lurking to gukesh, even during his turn to move?
Thx Danya for the ice cream remark🙄
👍👍👍
Actual gukesh rise in podcast is barely 2 minutes😂
Have been a big fan of your podcast, though Working on thumbnails will improve the channel by far!
@ 12:15 I heard that too.😂
After it, i jokingly said my wife that im having goosebumps in my stomach.😅😂
It was all so funny and lovable ❤
One practical issue with classical is that several recent classical World Championships have been decided by a rapid play off. Magnus v Karjakin. Magnus v Fabi. Nepo v Ding. It seems strange to call /think of the winners of these matches as classical world champions.
If Danya reads this -
Please consider writing a book on chess history...
Your reaction when he made the blunder became viral on the internet
Ddddd Danyaaaa, best chess commentator ever ❤
Dreaming is one thing . But how much u work for your dream is another. For gukesh everything went his way.
1. God's grace
2. His determined effort
3. His talent
4. Fighting spirit
5. Blessings and prayers of so many people behind him😂😂😂
I think most of those attributes can be applied to Ding as well. He simply blundered a couple times. The match was fairly even so I don't get this almost religious fervor over Gukesh winning. Maybe in his defense if he wins easily it would be more appropriate. Don't get me wrong I wasn't supporting either player but I did enjoy the chess.
@mikeyoung9810 believe me bro . I am a talented indian professional . I have seen my fellow professionals achieved bigger than me in my life . Sometimes no matter how much effort u put in things don't go your way . Look at Fabiana caruana nepo hikaru. Such strong players, but how did gukesh overcame these players at candidates .it's a miracle of sorts .😂
@@mikeyoung9810 That's true it can definitely also be applied to Ding and his journey to becoming wc and putting up a great fight in this match despite his form, lack of prep, mental and physical struggles. However, in the game that mattered most not to lose, gukesh won - with the black pieces to top it off. One can argue that BECAUSE it was close, it feels even more like destiny because it could have gone either way but it went to Gukesh. That's what makes it feel like god played a role towards his success. There were so many similar moments in his journey to becoming wc that could have gone either way, where not everything was in his own control but it all worked out. Gukesh himself understands that and that's why he is so thankful to god. Strong chess players all share in their drive, hard work and desire to win but the journey to becoming wc requires miracles to happen at the right time which shows the will of god.
I love your podcast but please please fix the frames behind you 🤣
Infinite Jest!
Kinda used to better audio for Danya.. call quality sucks :/ anyways great epidode!
This is India's century; be it Chess or be it Geopolitics!! Go Go Guki Go!!
Actually it might be true 👍
Dania was faster than hikaru and he was the one who spotted forced trade of bishops and a winning pawn endgame
Dayna*
He was fast but he had the evaluation bar on
I mean..why to compare 😅
@@dunno23 yeah. None of us sitting here will go through what those players are going through 😂
Perhaps Danya spotted it before Hikaru but I spotted the idea as soon as Ding put the bishop on a8. It is an 1800 level tactic, if you can even call it a tactic. The only consideration is whether the K and P ending was won and with the pawn on g3, anyone who has studied even the most basic endings knows that is easily a win.
04:01 normally, the contrarian grouch is not the one with the pitchfork😅
Fantastic
Classical chess >> speed chess.
Sorry. I just can't get into the latter. It feels volatile, is less amenable to memorable games and in blitz & faster formats all I can do is look at the eval bar dancing and engagement is driven only through drama, time scrambles & stupid blunders.
Provided the stakes are there, classical chess is the perfect balance of peak human quality, excitement, drama and the human element. Can any speed chess match ever replicate the epicness of that tal botvinnik match.
The inherent drawish nature of high level chess is a different issue. The solution to that is not speed chess. The solution is for a good variant to evolve and succeed chess. However, the classical format should stay.
Shogi has less than 2% draw rates at master level play, and their prestigious matches in Japan are almost always decided within 7 games (4 wins required to win).
I agree but we live in an age where everything has to be fast. I expect a time is coming where all chess will be some variant of fast chess and most GM's will be under the age of 25. Tactics will take a back seat to positional styles and winning quickly with exciting mates will become the norm.
I'm happy with keeping the current status quo. I can't watch Classical chess live, but it's enjoyable to watch in the recaps. My contention is more that I'd like to see even more rapid and blitz tournaments, because I simply enjoy watching those more.
We all have different tastes. I use to think 1 minute chess was meaningless and flabbergastingly impossible, and now I'm addicted to it. I still love classical, though, and killed myself watching the WCC in the middle of the night.
*Now chess will speak only about Magnus Vs Indian prodigies for next 10 years.*
Magnus no longer has the stamina needed to run the world championship marathon. He can do 100 m sprints -- may be two tournaments a year, max.
So true 👍 magnus might lose to one of the Indian youngsters
Magnus is still the strongest and highest ranking player in the world.
Arjun is gonna peak between 2850-60. He will be no. 1 in 2025.
To my uneducated and incompetent mind, what happened is like the statistic that most car accidents happen within 25 miles of home. You know the streets, where every red light and easy right turn is, and so you subconsciously relax 10% of your attention. Ding must have felt the same way, that the draw was in the bag, he was in a hurry to get there, and he was already thinking about the next day's games. And what do you know -- the kid ran out from behind a parked car to get his nerf ball, you swerved to avoid him, and hit the lamp post on the other side.
The reason most car accidents happen within 25 miles of home is that 99% of people driving are within 25 miles of their home. That is the dumbest statistic anyone uses for anything.
@@davidbarnett8617 valid point, but I would have to look at the numbers further -- too much work.
How can a native speaker of English not know the past tense of 'arrive'?
Did ding say he was happy there was no game the next day? I thought he said the opposite.
Is Danya joking about violinist or does he really play the violin?
The World championship is a marathon. Magnus no longer has the stamina to run a marathon. He is great at the 100m sprints, maybe two tournaments a year, max.
India being ott, Magnus wipes the floor with anyone.
Magnus wiped himself 2 times in the olympiad winning bronze while Gukesh won gold both times
Start your engines -Scotty Kilmer !
I don't think Scotty knows Chess - may be knows food mate
Very good points about infantilization.
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Magnus, Strongest master of chess END of.
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Shenanigans.
Indians invented chess the trophy thus returns to its native land.
Ridiculous to want to add blitz and rapid to the classical Championship. If he wants to stop playing classical, fine. But dont trash it on your way out. Aloso make it special likle it used to be: Have it every three years. Not this dumb new stuff where it's like a yearly superbowl.
No grouching about Ben getting paid every time he says “Takes Takes Takes”! He needs to keep the lights on!!
I got the impression that Hikaru, Nepo, Magnus, Levy in that order weren't happy to have an Indian winning the world championship. I wouldnt bother about Kramnik, he is generally not happy now a days but for various non reasons
Indians prodigies have arrived
Some of these Western chess players seem too arrogant. I huess it is the male culture there. The way they talk about Gukesh reveals that. Artogant and envious. Competitive in an unhealthy way.
hammer guy is a joke . he commentates like he is chewing
"It doesn't make Gukesh's title any less worthy." Huh?!? Gross blunder. The game was a grandmaster draw.
Not gonna lie, Danya looks high lol
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history.
His historic milestones include:
* Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion.
* Winning the Chess Olympiad.
* Won the Candidates Tournament.
* Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history.
* Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever.
* Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794).
All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.
You switched his Olympiad performance with candidates, he dominated Olympiad but not he candidates, he played really really well but i wouldn't say he was dominant.
@ ok, changed word dominated to won :)
Few care about second in this world, and almost 2800 is a miss. There's little doubt that he'll hit 2800 in the near future though. There are two players I favor over him, but if neither is his challenger next cycle then I hope he defends his title and cements his status as world champion.
Gukesh has achieved more by age 18 than any other chess player in history.
His historic milestones include:
* Becoming the youngest-ever World Chess Champion.
* Winning the Chess Olympiad.
* Dominating the Candidates Tournament.
* Becoming the second youngest Grandmaster in history.
* Surpassing 2700 Elo as the third youngest player ever.
* Reaching almost 2800 Elo by age 18 (2794).
All of this has been achieved in the most competitive era of chess, where preparation, technology, and global talent make it harder than ever to dominate.