Why are the House Elves left out of the Harry Potter films so much?
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So, what do you think? Why weren't the House Elves used in the Harry Potter films? Was it because they lacked importance to the overall story or was it just simply because they were too hard to animate? Let me know down in the comment!
Can you find it in your heart to forgive Warner Brothers for not including Kreacher's Tale in the films? Because I sure can't!!!
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Actually, I think them cutting out the house elves RUINED the romance!!! In books, I loved that Hermione kissed Ron for the first time because he showed that he cared about the house elves, which was incredibly important to her and which, up to that point, Ron had scoffed at her for caring for it. In the films they kissed.... just because??? I don't understand what cued them to kiss. Honestly, it's completely rubbish in the films, it didn't make me want to dance with glee that they were finally together, no, it made me stare at the screen in confusion and feel very thrown off.
And scenes like that didn't even require house elves, just talking about them. Same thing with SPEW technically, though that would be harder to pull off without at least the first winky scene to give clear reason's for hermione's sudden crusade.
Did any of that affect the overall plot of defeating Voldemort? No, so stop going on about it!
Thats a terrible argument against anything when they are creating scenes like the dancing scene in deathly hallows or the burrow being attacked and burned in half-blood prince. Those scenes not only didn't even exist but also have nothing to do with the overall plot of defeating voldemort. If the filmmakers were actually being disciplined and not creating/changing scenes and events then I would totally agree that obviously non-essential stuff will end up being cut out, but its much harder to justify cutting things when they can apparently find the time to squeeze in entirely new scenes just as superfluous.
Well, those were probably the only bits they put in that weren't in the books, and yes if they had left them out then that could've left enough time to include more of Dumbledore's theory as to what the Horcruxes might have been (which was about the only thing I did have a problem with them cutting out, as that was pretty crucial), but most of the rest of it I could live with
Did burning the Burrow down affect the overall plot of defeating Voldemort? Did Harry and Hermione slow dancing affect the overall plot of defeating Voldemort? Did the extremely strange scene between Harry and Ginny in the Room of Requirement affect the overall plot of defeating Voldemort? (And I don't even dislike that pairing!)
However, should Voldemort's backstory have been vital in defeating Voldemort? Hell yes! And the S.P.E.W. story arch develops Hermione's character critically, because it provides us with the source of her bravery and her reason for wanting to fight and defeat Voldemort: not in order to slow-dance, but to stand up for the downtrodden.
Hermionie would be proud
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She certainly would
*Hermione
S.P.E.W
The film makers are basically the real-world equivalent of the Wizarding World's society and historical records: erasing and downplaying the roles of House-Elves through the centuries.
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00:31 “ and today I’m going to explain why. And complain.....a lot” what’s new
Nothing but I love it
4:37 plot twist Neville and Dobby are the same person
It just wasn't important to the story
The and Peggy of the group do you get a joke or not
@@flaircountry1002 I was making a joke...
Just like Ron and Dumbledore are the same person
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I really hoped they'd include the scene in Deathly Hallows when Lupin bursts in all happy to tell them all that the baby has been born...and also the scene in DH when Lupin and Harry have an argument. I loved those two scenes and because of them being left out Lupin didn't really have that much impact since people who haven't read the books don't understand how scared he was of going into a relationship with Tonks and having a child and then how elated he was when Teddy was born. #Lupinthelegend
Ugh I hate that they didnt include more Lupin. Not to mention they barely even mention the baby they had.
#LOVEFORLUPIN
OMG AGREEEEED YES YES 😭 I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED
YES YES YES I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THIS
This is something that has always annoyed me! The movies leave out so much important information... Kreacher, Dobby, and Winky's storylines were either cut completely, or hardly had any screentime. Then of course there's the classic Peeves issue. I love the movies so much, but there's nothing like cracking open a Harry Potter book and taking in all the details of the wizarding world
Emma Ellingwood --Doesn’t it bug you that they gave the task of getting the gilly weed to Neville, who is TERRIFIED of Snape, how did Neville break into Snape’s potion closet??? He would never have done that! Nothing would stop Dobby!
The movies ruin the books!
Honestly I think the movies do a fine job up until half-blood prince. Sure they have to cut some things out as the books got longer but through the 5th movie they seem to do a good job of a least keeping the core story in and mostly just cutting out things which, while sad to not see, aren't super important to the main plot. Once you hit the 6th movie though the whole thing suddenly gets bogged down by romance to the extent that you really get pulled out of the main story. There's also an annoying trend in the final 3 movies of starting to drastically change how events actually play out instead of just cutting parts but otherwise copying the books.
About the only thing I had a problem with them cutting out was Dumbledore's theory as to what the Horcruxes might have been, as it left Harry and the others with virtually no leads! Pretty much everything else I could live with, because as you rightly say it didn't really affect the plot. I suppose it may have been an improvement to see more of Dumbledore's backstory with Grindelwald and Ariana, but I suspect the Fantastic Beasts films will cover a lot of that, especially since Grindelwald has already been established as the main antagonist of that series whereas the Harry Potter films don't explain his significance at all, other than that he stole the Elder Wand
How about they let you be the director since you think you know so much.
I'm pretty sure the goblins weren't CGI, they were little people with facial prosthesis; still difficult, but once they filmed the scenes it's pretty much done, whereas with house elves they have to do normal editing, and on top of that CGI the house elves into it.
Yup! In the behind the scenes of the first movie, they talk about finding all those extras and having to do all of the makeup.
Jason Isaacs has talked about Dobby being CGI and having to pretend he was in places he wasn't. Although, some of the goblins were actors with make-up and prosthetics.
That's correct. Granted the cost of all those prosthetics and what not must have cost a fair bit for so many actors. I think the only CG Goblin was Ron Pearlman in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.
Technically even Ron Pearlman was suprisingly minimal cgi. The major facial structure, most notably the jawline, is pretty much just his own face with some details added on. Obviously they had to change the body quite a bit, but it's interesting just how much of the more detailed parts of that character were all natural.
Neil Briggs All the best CGI is the actors performance.
If they make a television series, it had better be about the Mauraders
camhasproblems yes
Or follow some of the second gen kids maybe. Or more specifically TEDDY LUPIN (I am so curious about him I mean he's a metamorphmagus whose father is a werewolf and he has a close relationship with Harry and yet we know very little about him, I wanna know more!)
camhasproblems I really don't want a tv series, I feel like it will butcher the story
If then animate it
Big mood. One the one hand I NEED this and on the other I don’t want my head canons killed and it to be really bad...
Can you make a video about why is the part of Rita Skeeter being animagus left out of the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire?
OMG YESSSS
I didn't even notice 😫 how!? Idek.....
Agata Smith money and time probably
wtf....I CAN'T BELIEVE i NEVER REALIZED THAT UNTIL NOW
I think it’s coz they never used her again and it wasn’t ‘’necessary ‘’ or smth
I agree. Plot over romance. There was a lot of scenes and attention given to romantic scenes, even ones that weren't in the books. They felt they could include romantic scenes that weren't even in the books and leave out important plot scenes that were in the book. It made me upset too.
The only reason they add more romance and kinda love triangle in the Harry Potter movies because of the twilight movies
Plus, they even indicate a Neville/Luna romance that was nowhere in the book.
My hermit crabs names are: Dobby, Kreature, Aragog, And Smokey (not after anything in harry Potter, after Smokey the bear, my friend named him). I used to have Winky, and in August I'm getting another named Peeves. My pet peeve. Get it? Hehehe
You have HERMIT CRABS?!?!? Oh my god I bet they're so cute 😍
It's kreacher
actual reason : difficult to render
fandom reason : rOmAnCe > pLoT
how would it have been difficult to put house elves into the films? They completely exploded every single bit of action that was in the books to turn it into a fully fledged action scene and then some (and don't even talk to me about burning the Burrow down in part six) but including house elves (along with Hermione's plot, which in the book was critical to her character development) was too "difficult to render"?!
Casutama The burrrow burning scene was added in the movie to create tension. S.P.E.W contributes nothing to the plot, theme or the movie at all other than development for Hermionie when there are far more important stuff. The movies have 2 hours to tell the story, while the books have 500+ pages. The movie has to please it's audience in the limited time while also successfully conveying the main plot.
Anyway, CGI costs tons of money and is inconvenient.
also, like how hard would it be to change Harry and Voldemort's eye color so that they're green and red in every scene? lol
dim SPEW is one of the most important aspects regarding theme and adds depth the movie just didn’t have. I stop seeing these films in the theaters after Goblet. After I finally read GoF I now understand why.
What isn’t an excuse is why Warner Bros won’t release the extended cuts of ALL the movies.
@@annahoran5097 Daniel Radcliffe was allergic to the contact lenses that they tried to use, though I'm not sure why Voldemort's eyes weren't red
i completely agree that house elves should be there more
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I don't think 'Half-blood prince' movie "waste" time on Lavender, they didn't quite get the hole plot of that either. I think they really waste valueble seconds BURING THE BURROW IT MAKES ME SO MAD UGHHRHR AND IN 'DH' MOVIE THEY SAY NOWWWW THE BURROW IS NOT SAFE WHEN YOU JUST BURN IT 5 MONTHS AGO IN THE TIME LINE, YATES, YOUU SHITTTT
But I agree in everything else, dear Seamus
Hahahah I agree. That confused me too.
The burrow burning scene is weird, though in my opinion the entire 6th movie is just very oddly structured. On the romance side though I think a lot of people underestimate just how much book 6 is basically just a pausing of the main plot and refocusing on teenage/school issues which naturally involved a fair amount of dating angst. The 6th movie maybe overdoes the romance slightly, but its at least the one piece of the series that should have any real focus on the issue.
Mind you, one thing that the sixth film changed that I think was actually an improvement was the way Dumbledore told Harry about how Slughorn would want to 'collect' him. In the book he told him that as a sort of warning, whereas in the film he wanted Harry to let him, which given that he would eventually want him to get the memory from Slughorn makes a lot more sense!
Yates hates Wesleys (undeveloped Ginny!!??! Burning the Burrow) and shipps Harry and Hermione planine and simple
just imagine.... seven all seasons of the marauders.... i need it
kyara ketchum YeS
I swear the marauders were cut out so much of the films as it is I’d be happy with the HP movies redone and actually have the marauders explained. Like seriously so many people have watched the movies but can’t tell me who the Marauders were and considering they’re my favourite part of the series, it’s kind of upsetting. So yeah marauders series all the way!! But if we can’t have that, at least include the Marauders scenes from Harry Potter:
- explanation of who the marauders actually were
- including the Snape calls Lily a ‘m*******’ scene where James stands up for her so people don’t think he’s an arsehole
- sirius coming to check on Harry in the 3rd task and the trio meeting up with Sirius in hogsmead
- lupin and Sirius talking to Harry about his dad
- lupin and tonks
- teddy lupin all together
- Harry and lupin fighting over Lupin abandoning his son
I love watching Seamus complain and go off topic
Theory: can you get your sole sucked out by a dementor when you’re eating chocolate?
Probably not because the chocolate only helps you after the dementor is gone.
Yes, the plot should always come before romance
Ok something else that I hate is that in chamber of secrets DOBBY is in the book and movie and Harry Potter doesn't really care for him but then you skip ahead five years and Harry Potter is crying over DOBBY dying (so was I ) but in the movies your like why does he care about that weird goblin creature ( read that last part like you have no idea what the Harry Potter franchise even is) but if you read the book you know that over the years DOBBY Ron Harry and Hermione grew a love for each other (#spew) and in goblet of fire DOBBY helped out Harry and in other books (I forgot sorry correct me in replies) but like if you agree they should of included winkey and DOBBY.
New theory, hear me out on this one: Neville is actually a house elf
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The Theorizer my man!
6:25- if that where you we would have had a 3 minute section explaining the physics of the whole scene in a simplified version.
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INTF is not a type
#HaveHouseElvesInFantasticBeasts
I’ve always wondered why the weren’t as big in the films
@@thegreenfraggle938 ?
But you bring up what IMO, is an even more important question: How is it that elves are essentially enslaved by wizards, even though they're more powerful than wizards in many ways - and without any training?
The only answer I can think of - and it's pretty contrived - is that there's something inherent to the nature of elves that makes them have to obey wizard masters (until given clothing).
I read a story where the house elves feed on the magic of the wizards for survival, without it they die. So, the elves and wizards have a magically binding contract that the elves work for them in exchange for some of their family or organisation's magic, unless the elves are given clothes to be 'freed' from this contract - which would actually slowly kill the elf unless they found a new owner like Dobby started working for Hogwarts. Interesting theory.
That seems to be the standard fanfiction explanation for it. Where its really intended to be a symbiotic type of bond that just gets perverted by bad wizards. Though to be fair that's basically what we see in canon anyways where the only truly abused elves we see are kreacher and dobby, and given their owners are wizards like the malfoys and blacks who think murdering and torturing "mudbloods" is acceptable it seems likely they would treat any servant like that enslaved or no.
@@nbriggs133 exactly. Same with the werewolfs where besides Remus we weren't given any prof that they are good in nature
"P.O. box" stands for "Postal Owl box"...
Warner Brothers: puts Kreacher and Dobby in the movie
Winky: Am I a joke to you
I love Seamus, his theory’s are insanely amazing
Yeah the cutting out of the house elves bugs me too, but the gilyweed being given by Neville instead of Dobby does not actually bother me. First off, Crouch Jr. intended Neville to be the one who gave Harry the gillyweed because he gave Neville a book on aquatic plants. It just never worked out and he ended up having to stage an argument with Dobby in earshot in order to have him get the gilyweed, which I always found a bit of a stretch anyway since how would Dobby know where to get it? And after the events of the 2nd book, why would Harry have trusted anything Dobby gave him? Neville really likes Herbology and he gets on well with Professor Sprout, so obtaining gilyweed would have been a lot easier for him. Plus, the moment where he thinks he killed Harry is great. This is one of the few movie changes I actually approve of.
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I agree! That's like the only movie change I like. I'm mostly just mad about the Kreacher Plot, because he turns to their side ( kinda). And it also explains how Voldemort intended to reach his Horcrux which I never understood before, without reading the books.
You know the way house elves could teleport in and out of ANYWHERE including Hogwarts and had to obey every command of their master?
Why didn’t Voldemort just have an army of suicide-bomber house elves attack Hogwarts, killing everyone inside, winning the Battle if Hogwarts before it starts.
Also, an underused and overpowered spell in the books and films is OBLIVIATE! Like, who needs to find horcruxes when you can just erase Voldemort’s memory and make him forget about everything?
You really love that dancing scene, don't you? 😂
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KayLynn Haydon I loved it :D
KayLynn Haydon I loved it
All the harry/hermione shippers loved it of course. Personally I found it an entirely unnecessary bit of bloated run time from splitting the movie in two. It even could have played just fine if they had just made more obviously a dance between 2 close friends (or even pseudo brother/sister) comforting each other rather than pointlessly teasing a romantic connection which simply doesn't exist in the books.
KayLynn Haydon it's fine but not needed plus if wanted romance could have developed Ginny charictor more in films like in book
New hashtag #HouseElvesBeforeRomance
#HouseElvesBeforeRomance
THERE NEEDS TO BE A TELEVISION SERIES.
#Justiceforthehpplot
Yes. Like a BBC miniseries! They did those for so many of the Austen novels (or other works of the period), and they are always really, really faithful to the source material. Often down to the specific lines.
I propose a BBC miniseries with 7 seasons and at least 5 episodes per season (could change depending on the season). The only regrettable thing is that they can't cast Alan Rickman again.
Series per book. Episode per chapter.
We need it.
YESSS JUST LIKE PJO
If ever they reboot the Harry Potter series I hope they take it TV‼️
Maybe make it animated?!
Steve Kloves admitted that part of the reason behind this was that he didn't like the Dobby looked in CoS
The single dislike is from Lucius.
katniss179 4 Luciussssess
What about the other ten?
Probably death eaters or Lucius had other accounts..
Sky Serendipity probably
And the 58 other dislikes that are there now are all his Death-Eater-House-Elf-hating friends
Or maybe he made over fifty other YT accounts just to dislike this vid over and over again...
I love your half rant half theory videos!! They always make my day!!!! #notificationsquad
I loved the S.P.E.W arc Hermione had in book 4. I guess I was just proud of her for trying to help them ???
This is what I try to tell my sister. THERE IS TOO MUCH LEFT OUT IN THE MOVIES.
Tbh a hp series where each episode is a chapter and each season is a book would be so good! It would be accurate to the books AND make the, a lot of money with the later books
No-one else remake the films when I turn 20 I'm going straight to hollywood and remaking those films with every single detail
Thank you! lol
YES SEAMUS EVERYTHING IN THIS VIDEO IS SO ON POINT I HAVE TO USE CAPS! 😁
I'M GOING TO MAKE SO MUCH ART FOR YOU OH GOD I'M SO EXCITED. Wonderful video, as always. I'm always delighted to see how funny and enjoyable you can make videos just because of your personality.
I’ve always kind of thought this,
BUT I’M STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT!
Master Seamus Dobby and krecher are left out because we are house elves we are mistreated no wizard has respect for us. Please don't let any wizard beside master Harry Potter see this dobby will have to punish himself (go hides behind the counter)
Seamus, are you on WATTPAD?!?!?
Highland Dancer he's probably just reading fan fictions about himself lol 😁😁
I'm reading some about Harry Potter Fanfiction...
When there’s a one minute scene in DH1 where Harry zips up Ginny’s dress.
I love listening to Seamus rant
Who doesn't?
Oh my goodness! I hadn't even considered a Harry Potter TV series!!! I was so busy obsessing over a Marauders-Arc... I need these.
OMG we need a Marauders series but a Harry Potter TV series would be able to include so many things they just couldn't fit in the movies - although I can't imagine 11 year old Harry without Daniel Radcliffe 😯
Living the Hufflepuff life ah, good point... 🤔 I guess the Marauders are the better option here 🙈
Oh god I love you and also Seamus nice Animal Farm reference last video. I completely understood that. Can you livestream on Sunday thank you.
#Ravenclaw
See this was one of my pet peeves when I watched the films, I totally understood the reasoning behind it in earlier movies, but when it came to Order of the Phoenix onwards there was not really any excuses for it. I mean at the very least just use the main elves, Dobby, Kreacher, and Winky. Plus the lack of Dobby throughout the movies kind of cheapens his death in Deathly Hallows, I've had people who only watched the films tell me they weren't too bothered by his death because he wasn't in it that much and it honestly makes me sad that people who haven't read the books probably don't know how much Dobby did for Harry.
However one change I will defend is Neville finding the Room of Requirement simply because I remember watching something where one of the creative team or something said something along the lines of wanting to give Neville something significant to do given his connection to the prophecy, so that one i'm okay with. But then again i'm also still quite p***ed that Order of the Phoenix was so short, because of how much they cut from this book there was allot of stuff that appeared in later films that had no context or explanation E.g. The Mirror...And i will stop here because I am ranting. XD
Overall I agree, they should've included Kreacher and Regulus backstory.
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Theory: The creators were wizards who just didn't like House Elves...
I also loved the scenes in Half Blood Prince where they looked back into memories relating to Tom Riddle to get an advantage. I thought it was a really interesting plot-line that gave an excellent excuse to show exposition (which some of my favorite chapters in books are interesting exposition chapters), while also being such a cool way of gathering information to beat Voldemort.
YES SEAMUS! We have the same rants about book six! It was also my favorite, and I was so disappointed about missing out on those memories!
Is this video sponsored by S.P.E.W.?
Harry Potter is a story about love and friendship! “He shall possess a power the dark lord knows not”, or whatever the prophesy said and, according to Dumbledore, that power is love!
Also the main villain of the story (Voldemort) is unable to feel love, since he is the result of false love.
The goblins are real people not CGI
3:30 exactly that is the exact reason that I loveee the Half Blood Prince book but kind of dislike the movie the flashbacks help you understand why Voldemort did everything he did.
You upload at such random times
Seamus, I've been a subscriber to your channel for a while, I love your insights on Pixar and Potter. You enthusiasm is infectious. In the 1970s I was a teenager and lived in the UK, my Dad was in the United States Air Force stationed at RAF Upper Heyford. When you posted your available PO box and I saw Banbury, it brought back memories. We lived in Long Hanborough and could walk to Blenheim Palace. Thanks for your videos, I watch them all.
I have a question, if you were to use poly juice potion to turn into a muggle, wouldn’t you lose the ability to use magic, because the muggle doesn’t have a magical gene?
I don't think you actually become them inherently, because Harry still needed glasses - otherwise he would have immediately noticed that things look strange and removed them before Malfoy ever said anything - remember you can't realy change a person's eyes because the eyes are the window to the soul. You just look like them physically on the outside.
Actually your not recalling that scene correctly or rather are remembering the movie scene not the book. Harry does immediately take his glasses off since he doesn't need them in the book. There actually are a number of scenes where people polyjuice into muggles that I can think of. The important one for this question is harry and hermione going to godric's hollow polyjuiced as muggles in book 7, where they both use magic while still transformed when fighting off nagini and escaping voledmort.
*you're not
Thanks for touching on this seamus, I’ve always wondered why they left such a huge feature out of the films
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Guess he has his own ways to scare away Dementors XD
Your videos always make me laugh and if I’m having a bad day I just watch 3 or 5 videos and I’m in a better mood, so thank you very much sir!!
don't worry fam, as soon as i become a producer, a perfectly accurate TV adaptation is on the way hahahaha
Liliana Franco licensing is a bitch
+Liliana Franco YES I am ready to watch it, just give me a minute to make some popcorn 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Also I love that Neville finds the room of requirement though I agree that Dobby should be more in the movies
reasons are on point 👌🏻
I’m actually pretty down to have a Harry Potter TV series like how they did with Game of Thrones. But using ALL of the source material instead of cutting anything out. We have all the potterheads who are so eager to have a faithful adaptation of the books. I’m sure it will definitely make bank
Agreed whole-heartedly about the plot v romance! I ship things, sure, but I really get as involved in a romance as I do with a good plot. (And can I just say I love your hair?)
Thank you for this video Seamus! I find myself ranting about this subject all the time and my friends don't quite get it. It's relieving to see someone else getting my Harry Potter movie complaints
Why does Neville do all the things Dobby was supposed to do they were just lazy. But let hidden scenes stay in the books!
I don't necessarily hate giving neville more to do since he is an awesome character by the end of the series. However, it is unfortunate that more exposure for neville came at the cost of dobby, who is just awesome every time he shows up in the books.
Totally agree, book 6 and the flashbacks are some of the best bits! Learning backstory and connecting the dots is so important!
That was a somber ‘how’s it going’. You good?
The Diamond Wolf aw man, that sucks
THANK YOU SEAMUS THANK YOU!!! WE NEED THE HOUSE ELVES!!!!
Are you becoming Hermione
2:23 - 2:38 same Seamus, my friends and my mum kept asking me about that too 🙄🙄🙄
love you seamus!
5:31, goblins were not CGI, but actors in practical masks and prosthetics.
Think if they had house elf's in the films they could have house elf's battling in the Battelle of Hogwarts ha a kid can dream
also poor dobby he gets freed then dobby gets shuned until death:[
Though I agree I still like the scene of them dancing in the movies showing their friendship, slowing things down, still there were other scenes to cut out in the deathly hallows part 1
ah winky...
The thing wrong with Half Blood Prince is that the producer or something thought it was a “romantic comedy” sure the story that breaks down Voldemort’s story.........
Romantic comedy everyone!
If Harry would end up with Hermione, Ginny, or Cho ..... Or draco ?!?!??
I'm not against slash in general, but I have to say the huge number of fanfictions pairing harry with draco, snape, or even voldemort are just obnoxious. I mean the first two are constant antagonists throughout the series (even if snape is technically a good guy he clearly does not like harry) and the fact that the third is literally trying to kill him is basically the core point of the entire series.
Neil Briggs that’s the weird thing about fan fiction/ships, even if two characters literally hate each other so much they would murder each other people ship them so passionately they fight so much like ;--;
I agree that house elves should have been involved and that the movies greatly suffered from their exclusion, but honestly removing the romance would have also damaged the movies, the romances are humanizing to the characters and part of their development and remind us that really these are children and teens going through this extremely trying time and rising to the occasion. Also romances and relationships are important to show suffering when characters die and the cost of fighting this war against evil even though it must be done. They should have made the films longer or split more of them in 2 parts to be honest.
They didn't put them in because they were more interested in the path that Harry was going in, and it would take away time and money for more of the boring parts like the dancing scenes. They cut way to much of a lot of things like mad eye moody and were Tom goes back and kills his father and puts a spell on his uncle. Plus house elves and other creatures make cuter scenes and again takes away from the human characters. Will I forgive them for leaving out the house elves h*'ll NO or the gnomes h*'ll NO. I had been looking forward to all those things. It was stupid how they left them out especially dobby. We last see him in the second movie and then never again until the last movie. They needed him and the others for the story lines in all the other movies. It's stupid to think ok we see him in last of the second movie when harry frees him and never again until the last movie that all of a sudden he just happens to be around aberforth and he knows this strange elf is a friends with harry and he can send him there to help. No way. We needed all the back storyline in the movies like they were in the books to make it believable that he could be around where someone could send him to harry. I hope the house elves get shown properly when they are remade. It's been 20 years since the 1st movie I am surprised they haven't started remakes already, especially since they are still so popular, could you imagine the money they could rake in
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*where Tom
And this video I think gives a pretty good explanation as to why the house elves didn't play more of a role in the films. If they were so difficult to animate and weren't really that crucial to the plot then you can't really blame the film makers for cutting them out!
To be completely honest I pay a lot of attention to shipping people but Harry Potter is one of the only series that I didn’t care about shipping
*sigh* Boys, not at all ever interested in romance*sigh*
(Not complaining at Seamus just complaining at SOME boys)
Lucie Henning I'm female and I completely agree with Seamus. The plot is much more important than romance.
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So... literally everything Dobby does Neville gets all the credit for it! I’ve been complaining about that for YEARZ
*scoffs* cho same!!!!!! #cutchonothouselves
Evie Scott I did hate cho but it was important because it shows Harry's first crush and relationship
This video is awesome, your theories are amazing! Keep working hard and amazing like you always do!
uhm they could just have used children actors and used makeup, which would have made special effects much more manageable. so it really is no excuse. SF makeup is a gorgeous tool to use.
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but I think for such a makeup it takes up to 5 or more hours to do, while the laws only allow kids a certain time on set
it is doable even with work laws that affect children in the UK... and no, I can do an SF makeup like that with my team in around 3h per person and the labour laws say its 7 most if I can remember correctly.
Also, I never said a full makeup. It's hard working with children with makeup. they fidget too much. It's half a makeup and then the rest done through computer. It's like half the cost and time than CGI and it looks even more realistic because you have an actor there and animating stuff like the light moving or the wrinkles is just a walk in the park because you have something to base it upon.
They just wanted to do whatever they wanted and work less in my opinion, bcause like this there are tons of other possibilities and if I can do them in a third-world country like Venezuela and while just being in school so meaning basically NO BUDGET, I think WB UK can do something for the HP franchise.
There's an issue however that even with a blend of methods it is still a long and complex (read expensive) task to do that sort of work. Especially given at that point in time there was very little precedent for that way of doing things. They get away with the small actor with makeup approach with the goblins largely because they have extremely limited screen time and are mostly static objects not interacting with their environment or even displaying full motion. Compare that to house elves which are much more "animated" in their actions constantly moving around and interacting with things and characters around them and the level of detail, and therefore work required, is far higher.
So all that isn't to say they couldn't have done it, merely that there are legitimate reasons it is a difficult process no matter how you really approach it. Unfortunately, the house elf appearances outside of book 2 and 7 just aren't really critical to the major plot so its an easy spot for them cut content, saving both valuable time for other bits of the story and saving resources.
Seamus during the part in sorcerers stone with the troll Ron says peeves playing jokes. But they say its probably people playing jokes, though in one interview the actor did say he slipped and said peeves. It just sounded so similar between peeves and people with the accents and background noise.
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Peeves was cut because Chris Columbus was disappointed with the ghosts in the first film.
I REALLY hope that they make a Harry Potter remake. I hope they have an actual potterhead as a director, who will stick to the books as close as they can, and won't focus as much on the smaller sub- plots.
Time and budget constraints: For the sake of time, some story elements had to go, and elves are expensive CGI. For exactly the same reasons, we don't get many direwolves in The Game of Thrones TV series.
When I first read the HP books I didn't care about romance
Now The romance is cute but I still like plot more