I know colors suck for you, but I really appreciate you doing this puzzle! I had so much fun with it. I hope you're doing well. It was good to see you doing another video. Take care!
Thank you BremSter for the feature! I don’t know how I missed the memo on colors (as a multi-year subscriber and patreon supporter), but I am so sorry for sending this in :( this puzzle seemed to be both of our worst nightmares-you being tortured while solving, and me watching you be tortured. [spoilers] I posted the puzzle at 3 stars with a note that many solvers might find it 2.5 stars. I intended the puzzle to be a “strategic” coloring puzzle in that only the 6789s need to be colored. The puzzle explores how those 6789s bounce around the grid and influence each other, based on the straight diagonal lines and the fact that certain of the colors pairs sum to 15. Some other comments here highlight other key insights that make the solve smoother. Regarding the ending: in box 2, both the line and the two cells not on the line sum to 7. The 34 pair in R8C6 restricts the off-the-line sum. Anyway, thanks for solving, and again I am so sorry to have put you through this.
Don’t apologize for sending it in. I am glad I solved the puzzle, I am still trying new things to deal with this. I feel like such a failure every time I get a puzzle that needs colouring. But I am very glad I featured this one. I learned a lot.
An observation that might have slightly helped around the 28 minute mark is: Not only is grey higher than orange, you also know grey and orange have to add to 15 from earlier logic. And the same goes with purple and green, where purple is less than green. So that gives you purple/orange as a 67 pair, and grey/green as an 89 pair. And that makes it easier to resolve things. (It would have simplified resolving the last of the coloring as you then knew grey/green couldn't go on purple/orange's lines at all, and then you also get to knock out the resolution of the actual digits via row 6.)
Also, overall I'd call this a 2-to-3 star objectively, so about a 1-to-2-star LMD? It's not *that* bad for people who can do coloring, but there's still multiple key deductions on a pretty narrow path. At least they're pretty well telegraphed overall.
I just looked this up on LMD and the author themselves says it's around 2.5 stars, and after solving it, I have to agree. I got about 8 minutes into the puzzle, but needed BremSter's '15' revelation to continue, and after that the puzzle flowed relatively smoothly for rest, letting me finish in 26:12 (conflict checker off). Having done a few hundred 1 star puzzles on LMD, this definitely was NOT a 1 star. 😄 Good to see the current rating reflects that. Also, I hope you feel better soon, BremSter!
Fun puzzle - the easier way to find the 9 is that in row 6 grey and pink have to be less than 15 as only four of the 1 to 5s in row six are on those 2 sum segments - that means the grey is not 9 and therefore the green has to be.
This killed me. Well more than 2x Bremster time for me, with a LOT of help from the video. This one kind of broke me... I wouldn't call it "fun" for me, but I do like stretching my brain, so I'll take it. :) Thanks for sharing, as always!
Over 57 minutes, and needed Bremster for 2 revelations -- the 12345 sets, and the disambiguation at the end. In the back of my mind, I seem to recall there is some disambiguation method that fits the ending situation - with all of the remaining cells as pairs except one. But I don't remember how it works. Definitely a tough puzzle.
Hey there! One way to see the ending is that the remaining cells in Box 2 are 2345 - which sum to 14. So that means the sum of the line is 7, and the sum of the two other cells is also 7. The 34 pair in R8C6 sorts out the options. Hope this helps!
This is a heavy-coloring puzzle -- unless you use letters instead. I began with colors, but changed to letters after a moderately long while. I chose letters to satisfy F + I = G + H = 15. I also knew that F < I because F occupied a cell adding to I. Lacking similar knowledge about G and H, I got G > H. *Please* for your health and sanity, at least look into letters as an alternate to colors. 9:50 Thank you! 16:10 I hope that you return to letters as soon as possible.
I combined both ideas - making one pair red with A and B and the other pair yellow with A and B. I chose to switch my A and B notation when I discovered which of each were larger, because my brain wanted both As to be the larger options.
31 + minutes but only by following along with Bremster when I got stuck. Very tough puzzle for me. Very nice tho with interesting logic. Nice job by Bremster explaining the logic despite the coloring difficulties.
Sorry to see you struggle. You made the most important deduction early on: The two coulour pairs in box 5 both have to sum to 15. others have pointed out this means once you find out which colour is lower and which is higher, the lower digits can only be 67 and the higher 89, not 678 and 789. On top of that, you can nail down grey with row 6: If you try 9 for it, the region sum line pair has to be 45 only leaving the digits 123 for purple, which can maximally sum to 5. So grey has to be 8, and the other three high digits follow from that alone. You can fill in all 6789 and you can get rid of the colouring.
I rewatched and you almost did that, you used row 6 before seeing the 67 and 89 separation and saw that 5 had to go left in row 6 to make grey higher than orange. You could have deduced that grey can't be 7 from that alone, as orange then would be 8.
I hope you got better today. My time was 29:53. I was super lost but didn't give up. In the middle of the puzzle (middle because I was trying something (?) With colours) I understood that we need 15 pair at box 5, but it still took me a while to realise that R6C1 is a 6789! Ufff 😅 Thanks!
I know colors suck for you, but I really appreciate you doing this puzzle! I had so much fun with it. I hope you're doing well. It was good to see you doing another video. Take care!
Thank you BremSter for the feature! I don’t know how I missed the memo on colors (as a multi-year subscriber and patreon supporter), but I am so sorry for sending this in :( this puzzle seemed to be both of our worst nightmares-you being tortured while solving, and me watching you be tortured.
[spoilers] I posted the puzzle at 3 stars with a note that many solvers might find it 2.5 stars. I intended the puzzle to be a “strategic” coloring puzzle in that only the 6789s need to be colored. The puzzle explores how those 6789s bounce around the grid and influence each other, based on the straight diagonal lines and the fact that certain of the colors pairs sum to 15. Some other comments here highlight other key insights that make the solve smoother.
Regarding the ending: in box 2, both the line and the two cells not on the line sum to 7. The 34 pair in R8C6 restricts the off-the-line sum.
Anyway, thanks for solving, and again I am so sorry to have put you through this.
Don’t apologize for sending it in. I am glad I solved the puzzle, I am still trying new things to deal with this. I feel like such a failure every time I get a puzzle that needs colouring.
But I am very glad I featured this one. I learned a lot.
That's how I finished it. Good to know it was part of the intended path, and not just me being random, haha.
An observation that might have slightly helped around the 28 minute mark is:
Not only is grey higher than orange, you also know grey and orange have to add to 15 from earlier logic. And the same goes with purple and green, where purple is less than green. So that gives you purple/orange as a 67 pair, and grey/green as an 89 pair. And that makes it easier to resolve things. (It would have simplified resolving the last of the coloring as you then knew grey/green couldn't go on purple/orange's lines at all, and then you also get to knock out the resolution of the actual digits via row 6.)
Also, overall I'd call this a 2-to-3 star objectively, so about a 1-to-2-star LMD? It's not *that* bad for people who can do coloring, but there's still multiple key deductions on a pretty narrow path. At least they're pretty well telegraphed overall.
Great to see you again BremSter! Look after yourself and also loving the guest solvers…cheers
I just looked this up on LMD and the author themselves says it's around 2.5 stars, and after solving it, I have to agree. I got about 8 minutes into the puzzle, but needed BremSter's '15' revelation to continue, and after that the puzzle flowed relatively smoothly for rest, letting me finish in 26:12 (conflict checker off). Having done a few hundred 1 star puzzles on LMD, this definitely was NOT a 1 star. 😄 Good to see the current rating reflects that.
Also, I hope you feel better soon, BremSter!
Fun puzzle - the easier way to find the 9 is that in row 6 grey and pink have to be less than 15 as only four of the 1 to 5s in row six are on those 2 sum segments - that means the grey is not 9 and therefore the green has to be.
This killed me. Well more than 2x Bremster time for me, with a LOT of help from the video. This one kind of broke me... I wouldn't call it "fun" for me, but I do like stretching my brain, so I'll take it. :) Thanks for sharing, as always!
Over 57 minutes, and needed Bremster for 2 revelations -- the 12345 sets, and the disambiguation at the end. In the back of my mind, I seem to recall there is some disambiguation method that fits the ending situation - with all of the remaining cells as pairs except one. But I don't remember how it works. Definitely a tough puzzle.
Hey there! One way to see the ending is that the remaining cells in Box 2 are 2345 - which sum to 14. So that means the sum of the line is 7, and the sum of the two other cells is also 7. The 34 pair in R8C6 sorts out the options. Hope this helps!
Great puzzle. Loved the solve.
This is a heavy-coloring puzzle -- unless you use letters instead. I began with colors, but changed to letters after a moderately long while. I chose letters to satisfy F + I = G + H = 15. I also knew that F < I because F occupied a cell adding to I. Lacking similar knowledge about G and H, I got G > H.
*Please* for your health and sanity, at least look into letters as an alternate to colors.
9:50 Thank you!
16:10 I hope that you return to letters as soon as possible.
I combined both ideas - making one pair red with A and B and the other pair yellow with A and B. I chose to switch my A and B notation when I discovered which of each were larger, because my brain wanted both As to be the larger options.
@@joelwagg8314 That's an interesting way to do it. I did a double-take upon reading that A was to be larger.
31 + minutes but only by following along with Bremster when I got stuck.
Very tough puzzle for me.
Very nice tho with interesting logic.
Nice job by Bremster explaining the logic despite the coloring difficulties.
Sorry to see you struggle.
You made the most important deduction early on: The two coulour pairs in box 5 both have to sum to 15. others have pointed out this means once you find out which colour is lower and which is higher, the lower digits can only be 67 and the higher 89, not 678 and 789.
On top of that, you can nail down grey with row 6: If you try 9 for it, the region sum line pair has to be 45 only leaving the digits 123 for purple, which can maximally sum to 5. So grey has to be 8, and the other three high digits follow from that alone.
You can fill in all 6789 and you can get rid of the colouring.
I rewatched and you almost did that, you used row 6 before seeing the 67 and 89 separation and saw that 5 had to go left in row 6 to make grey higher than orange. You could have deduced that grey can't be 7 from that alone, as orange then would be 8.
1:15:24 - That wasn’t easy but it was very enjoyable.
I tried to start this one about five times. Back for some help. 😭
Please don't torture yourself to solve puzzles. there are many lovely puzzles.
I hope you got better today.
My time was 29:53. I was super lost but didn't give up. In the middle of the puzzle (middle because I was trying something (?) With colours) I understood that we need 15 pair at box 5, but it still took me a while to realise that R6C1 is a 6789! Ufff 😅
Thanks!
Cool, done in 15:21
@28:50 you can eliminate the 9 from grey since r6c23 can't be a 45 pair, making grey/orange=78 etc.
14:52 for me, lots of fun with it !!!
30:33 for me
nice puzzle and solving
2:50 I disagree. in some wordings of this rule are unclear on this regard. the beauty of this wording is, that it is unambiguous.