Good testing mate - why indoor ranges are useful. They're the same pellet (H&NFTT), Bisley too. From watching H&N factory tours, I don't see how how they differentiate customer brands in manufacture (if they even do), but H&N process control and QA is very good. I guess in theory they could be different sizes, but I don't think so - I've never been able to find a difference in shooting (even 20 YO ones vs modern). The short skirt pellet is now an old design, hence why the new Baracudas look like a JSB and shoot better. Any difference you're seeing in your groups is pellet-pellet natural variation. You'd have to test hundreds to test significant difference, let alone from tin to tin - an expensive dedication to science! JSB (eg Daystate, AA, FX, Weihrauch FTE) run ltd batches off one press for the customer brands - more consistent in theory than mixed batch, but could be for better or worse (reduces pellet-pellet variation in theory, but batches can be good or bad). In general, customer brands make people feel better matching pellet to rile. Placebo, nowt more. I currently like the ~9.5gr pellets with semi point head for both Weihrauch barrels (several) and FX for shooting in breezy outdoor conditions (target or hunting): The QYS Streamlined Heavy and H&N Baracuda FT are both excellent (but expensive). I'm about to start testing RWS SFUH if the weather ever improves (no indoor range for me!).
@@keith6930 Yeah bought some @ £9.95 and a fortnight later they were £12.50 IF you could find a place that had any left .. they have had fantastic reviews , and quite rightly so , and on that basis I reckon H&N have jumped on the price rise bandwagon for these particular pellets .. bought 10 tins and are excellent in most of my rifles ..
take away from that is in YOUR gun you can shoot any of the 8.64 grain pellets you tried without having to adjust scope. That may not carry over to other guns, especially different makes, models and manufacturers. However its worth trying
That's what I thought, but doesn't't necessarily mean the same pellets as could be different lead wire and punch / presses? If all the "same" then it would be a simple case of but what's cheapest, I'm all for that
Good testing mate - why indoor ranges are useful. They're the same pellet (H&NFTT), Bisley too. From watching H&N factory tours, I don't see how how they differentiate customer brands in manufacture (if they even do), but H&N process control and QA is very good. I guess in theory they could be different sizes, but I don't think so - I've never been able to find a difference in shooting (even 20 YO ones vs modern). The short skirt pellet is now an old design, hence why the new Baracudas look like a JSB and shoot better. Any difference you're seeing in your groups is pellet-pellet natural variation. You'd have to test hundreds to test significant difference, let alone from tin to tin - an expensive dedication to science!
JSB (eg Daystate, AA, FX, Weihrauch FTE) run ltd batches off one press for the customer brands - more consistent in theory than mixed batch, but could be for better or worse (reduces pellet-pellet variation in theory, but batches can be good or bad). In general, customer brands make people feel better matching pellet to rile. Placebo, nowt more.
I currently like the ~9.5gr pellets with semi point head for both Weihrauch barrels (several) and FX for shooting in breezy outdoor conditions (target or hunting): The QYS Streamlined Heavy and H&N Baracuda FT are both excellent (but expensive). I'm about to start testing RWS SFUH if the weather ever improves (no indoor range for me!).
Some very good points that's for sure
All good I like h&n ftt and Acu-pell they do the job and that’s what matters.
I have a Remington Express and it loves Webley Accupel pellets.
Very nice shooting at 50 👏
Thanks, still a hell of a lot to improve on but it's getting there
Nice shooting. I do like the h&n ftt but have just got some baracuda 8 to try.
They've been out of stock this far when I've been looking. I have noticed that the price for them has gradually gone up too??
@@keith6930I paid £11.15 for them which i thought was pretty good.
@@paultowns9880 not a bad price at all
@@keith6930
Yeah bought some @ £9.95 and a fortnight later they were £12.50 IF you could find a place that had any left .. they have had fantastic reviews , and quite rightly so , and on that basis I reckon H&N have jumped on the price rise bandwagon for these particular pellets .. bought 10 tins and are excellent in most of my rifles ..
Riffle is not legal power thats well lver at 59m with a 8gn pellet whats it doing 13/14
Opps!!! another interesting topic. ❤
Subhojit Dhar from India 🇮🇳
It's always fun to experiment
@@keith6930 yap!!
Usually find using the nominal weigh for any calibre works best… little point mucking about…8.5 ish .177, 14.5 for.22…
Look on the back of the tin you'll see they all have the hn stickers on the bottom of the tin 3 different head sizes
I'm sure they're all 4.52, could be wrong though
Only used the H&N's out the four but don't get consistent results. Might try the Weihrauch's. That's my moto as well they all hit something.
Yep, I took up this hobby for enjoyment and fun. If something gets knock over or manage to hit something I aimed at then I'm happy 😁
@@keith6930 I'm happy with the back wall and nobody else in the vicinity.
Try the daystate keisers
take away from that is in YOUR gun you can shoot any of the 8.64 grain pellets you tried without having to adjust scope. That may not carry over to other guns, especially different makes, models and manufacturers. However its worth trying
I'm going to try and see if the results are the same, better or worse if I re zero at each distance as opposed to aiming with hold over or under
All made in same factory..h n
That's what I thought, but doesn't't necessarily mean the same pellets as could be different lead wire and punch / presses?
If all the "same" then it would be a simple case of but what's cheapest, I'm all for that
@keith6930 yes....different days can effect production..but essentially the same pellets.....